Carrera Digital 132 Magnet vs No Magnet
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Today I take the Carrera 132 Digital Porsche 911 RSR Pink Pig back on track.
I run the car with no magnets and see what kind of pace I can get out of the car.
I then add some Paul Gage Urethane Tire to the equation and see how much faster I can get the car around the track.
Finally we throw the magnets back into the car and set the quickest time so far!
I personally don’t have a favourite when it comes to Mag or No Mag racing. They’re both extremely fun and both challenging in their own ways. For sure No Mag requires a little more effort but it’s fun having to really control the car and feather the throttle.
Let me know what style of racing you prefer!
Nice little comparison there. Like you say, each to their own, but for me it's always going to be magless racing that wins. You won't beat a magnet lap time, but it's a much more fun and rewarding experience, and you get to notice the individual characteristics of each car (and realise how bad most stock tires are!).
Yeah everyone has their own preference, but I agree. I’m starting to really like non-mag, you just get a good feeling when you’re able to execute a great lap with a non-mag setup. Yes to the stock tires comment 😂 thanks for watching!
Hi!
I prefer without magnets, but with better tires, Carrera's are not very good.
With 124 cars, I remove all the magnets.
With 132 cars, I initially run without the rear magnet, now I remove all magnets.
Driving fun increases exponentially!
I use urethane tires for the 124s (Ortmann) and rubber tires for the 132s (PRS).
Hi Antonio, yeah tire upgrades are almost a must without mag. At least on the Carrera Track. Yeah I’m going to try starting out with removing the rear on some of the cars like you mentioned. Thanks for watching!
@@MPSlotCar I'm a rank novice at slot racing,but I have found that carrera tires can vary.....the stock tires on my Ford GT and 911 RSR are in a perpetual slide/spin mode. They can spin out on the straight away even,,,,,,,,,,,,then I just got the Bill Thompson Cheetah with taller tires front and rear and right away its hooked up pretty decent....Ive got silicone tires on the GT now and they stick nicely.....The Cheetah for some reason just launches off corners and down straights.......I like it. Its a real short wheelbase and feels lighter than my other cars,....Ive got some sticky tires from Germany to try on the Cheetah...........I raced motorcycles for years,and have always ridden them,any kind of racing attracts me.
I run without magnets and replace the stock tires. Adds to the fun for me. Nice video and track!
Hi, Thanks I appreciate that. And yeah I’d have to agree that seems to be the best for me as well. (Non-Mag and Tire upgrade)
Thanks for watching!
Another way to get into non mag without diving into the deep end is start by removing the rear magnet only.Once you get used to that then remove the middle magnet 🧲
Words of wisdom right there! Yeah baby steps would be key, instead of trying to run before you can walk 😅 thanks for watching and for the comment/tip buddy!
Thanks Massimo, for sharing your content! , greetings from the Netherlands
Finally tuned car without magnet is the way to go.
Thanks for the video, Massimo. I've began my life without magents about thirty-six hours ago and have felt like I'm walking on ice while wearing tap shoes. The experimentation is a lot of fun so far even though I"m pretty sure my son thinks I'm nuts.
😂 I think we’re all a little nuts
Thanks mate you are a true legend ☺️
My pleasure!! Aw you’re making me blush mate ☺️✌🏼 congrats again brotha!
Awesome dude... 👍
I recommend to drive without magnets all the time, for me only without it. As you had said, you need to develop a feeling for the car and you have more input on braking points and acceleration. Thriving tires will get you more grip as well. And last, by adding weights to the car you will increase the downforce which results in higher curve speed and faster track time. I put an average of about 20-30 grams of weight in my cars.
Great video thank you! I’ll have to try no magnetic on some of my cars and see how I like it. My track has long high speed straights and like you mentioned the crashes can be pretty ugly. Good comparisons and input well done. Cheers!
Thank you glad you enjoyed it!
Yeah mag is fun if you just want to rip the cars around. If you want a challenge, non-mag is the way imo. Cheers!
I'm actually doing the same experiments on my track (check my channel) I found there's a lot of variables: 1. Track surface - Running no magnets on the stock plastic was like ice skating. After I painted the track with flat housepaint, the difference between magnets and no magnets became limited to the curves. 2. Speed settings and braking settings - I found with no magnets you really need to tune the braking - generally harder - to get the car to behave in a predictable fashion. I also found that reducing the top speed improved lap time by giving me more throw on the controller for fine-grained input. 3. No magnets vs center magnets - Compared to upscale slot car brands, Carrera cars seem to want the center magnet to keep the guide in the rail. I found the cars were more predictable with the center magnet still installed. Currently on my painted track, I can come within 2-3 tenths of a second of my magnet times at the same speed setting. - I will say that your track is more technical, which will definitely affect the average car speed at any point on the track. I haven't gone the tire route yet, but I can see it's something you need to get performance out of the cars.
Good on you for trying Non Magnet. I run all my D132 cars non magnet with Paul Gage PGT tyres.
I also remove the guide springs for more realistic handling as the guide spring somewhat reduces sliding and the characteristics of a slide...
Also, I use Smart Race so I can fine tune all my classic D132 cars to be capable of the same lap time consistently. So the power and brake settings vary from 5-30% brakes and 30-40% power.
Some might say it's slow, but so far with 3 drivers it gave fantastic, close realistic racing and is way easier on the cars. Especially high speed rear enders, when one driver stops to marshal a de slotted car...
Very enjoyable video, loved watching the card slide on the corners. I would love to get into carrera but don't thave the space.
I love the Porsche so I want it so bad
Totally agree with everything you said Massimo. I run NINCO track so its much grippier than Carrera track. I have Carrera cars,Ninco cars ,Scalectrix cars,Fly cars. All 4 manufactures cars feel different as well. Love to see a comparison of same cars model,but different manufacturer.
Yeah I’ve seen a few do same car but different manufacturers go head to head. It’s cool to see the differences between Scalextric v Carrera or Slot.it v NSR and so on. Cheers! ✌🏼🏁
driver vs magnets good video!
Great video as always brother. Did you sand the Paul gage tires or just as they are?
Usually I’ll hit them with a little sand paper. Since then I’ve gotten a truer that I’ve been using.
No magnets all day every day. Had a Polistil set in the 70's that consisted of a black JPS lotus and a six wheeled Tyrell Elf and the cars were a lot slower but would still slide about. The racing was better as you could see the cars squirm and the racing was very very close. We got that skilled we would draw up along side the other car and give a squirt of power mid corner in just the right spot and it would knock the other car out of its slot...... Happy Days. If you have all those magnets and super sticky tyres you may as well have a train set but that's just my opinion.
Plz make a video on how to replace the spur gear on Carrera 132 cars on the axe can't find one video on UA-cam
I definitely prefer no magnets for racing at home, while there’s an added challenge it’s much more beginner friendly if your racing with people that are new to the hobby, sure they might crash either way but at least it won’t be at supersonic speeds that tear your wings apart 😅
Hi Josh! Haha I couldn’t agree more! When I have newbies come try they all want mag just so can can push it to the max…I mean it’s fun but when you’re in the hobby not so much after some time. Needless to say the magnet wipeouts are catastrophic 😬😅
Magnets = arcade racing, No magnets = sim racing. Well it feels that way to me at least. 😊
Pretty spot on description right there!
What Level did you have your track set at? Power Level that is. I had to stop Magnet racing, it was inanely fast and the crashes were epic LOL, my track is 85 feet and we were down to 4.6 seconds with magnets. Without we are around 6 to 8 seconds, I keep the track power on 6-8 depending on skill levels
Hi John, I had it set to 10. Ideally I should’ve dialled the speed down for non-Mag running. I just max them out to see what they got for ultimate lap time. But for actual racing I typically run the cars around 4-6 power. Which really aids controlling the non-Mag cars. Non-Mag is fairly new to me but I’m really enjoying it, just need a little more practice to get these times down a little more! Your times are fairly close/competitive 🙌🏻 Haha yeah the crashes are pretty spectacular/insane on full power 😂
Good Evening Massimo, i just started watching the Video and to my horror I had to stop and send you a quick note. Please don't lay tools across the track, or leave loose screws on the track lest you forget to turn off the controller one day and a dead short ruins your day! Anyway carry on.. let me see press play.. ah here we go.....
Haha I’m so sorry to scare you like that 😅 noted and I’ll be sure not to make that mistake again! Thanks for the comment and thanks for pressing play again 😂 cheers
Nice Job, next no magnets but add some weight!
@@guidetrack9151 thanks! Yeah for sure that’ll be my next step in this journey.
What size layout is that. Looks like about 6x10 ft. Smaller? What about leaving the center magnet in place?
Hi Scott, the table is 14x8 ft. Yeah they adds a little bit of a challenge while loosening up the rear end. All comes down to how an individual wants to race. I don’t think there’s a right or wrong way. As long as you have fun. Thanks for watching! ✌🏼
Hiya son , I just brought a spirit of speed set but it's come with a 2 pin socket, as I live in the uk 🇬🇧 is there a adapter so I can use this set . We have 3 pin electric sockets here . Thanks for any advice you give me .
Hi David, to my knowledge you should be able to buy a wall adapter for it. Hopefully you get it going soon!
How do I keep my car (1/32) handling the turns without wrecking? I use new racing tires and add weight but still have racing issues! Thanks
Hi there, so it seems like you’ve addressed the tires and even added weight which is good. What kind of tires are you using? For some cars, like me with the DTMs I have some issues I take slow and as I get into a rhythm I start trying to push the limits a little more and let off later and later into the corners until I find the limits of the particular car.
Have you tried adding a magnet to a BRM car?
Where did you get your replacement tires? Would love to get some to swap out my stock ones. Any suggestions?
Hi Daniel, I order most of my tires threw Slot Car Space Solutions, slot car corner and scale racing centre Toronto. Hope this helps!
whats the length of your track.. feet ?
Did the 2 combined pitlanes create some kind of problem for you? because I would like to do my pitlane just like yours
No, no issues at all with it. You just have to drive at “pit lane speed” to make sure you pick up the change lane.
@@MPSlotCar so do you mark the lap correctly in both?
@@SpaccoTutto-ty2vq yes it counts the laps because I’m using a digital pit stop on both sides of the crossover so any car that enters the pits will have to cross one and they won’t miss a lap.
What program are you running for your big screen
Hi, I’m running the SmartRace App.
Without magnets its more realistic drive.
Agree 100%
Nice Layout 👍, can you post the dimensions pls?
Thanks! The table is 14 feet by 8 feet.
@@MPSlotCar thx
Whats about "gecko" cars😮
Those do look pretty amazing!
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magnet = rookie
Magless is the way to go