I've hunted giant trees like that on public with a rock climbing rope and use the same techniques that I used in tree work. Made step aiders from thick paracord and rubber tubing that I could girth hitch all the way around for foot placement. Had a lot more deer come by me that couldn't see me but I was in the middle of a giant pin oak that split. Great videos but! Keep them up because I just started now getting into targeting big bucks and I think I really could use your help. Much respect!
Great video with precise explanation of the set up, it has made me see errors I have made all my life avoiding pressure from other hunters. I realized the lack of my success this year was primarily due to me surrendering heavy cover areas to other hunters due to trying to avoid them, so my season resulted in looking for low pressure hunting areas on both private and public land and not actually hunting deer in pressured areas. I need to change my mind set by using the hunting pressure to my advantage. Thanks for the videos
Hunted a very similar tree this season. Used SRT to climb it and it was probably only way I was getting into that tree. Harvested a nice 8 point out of it as well
another great video. Really enjoy how you break down a property. The white board is the way to go too in my opinion. I still like checking aerails and topos to see how a property lays out, but still- you cant substitute old school techniques and boots on the ground.
My best sets are ring of step sets in high traffic areas on big mature trees. I also like to hang an extra bow hook. Sometimes it helps to hang your bow and ease around the tree hands free.
Nice video john. I’m digging the white board talks! One question , any chance on the next white board session you can talk about you entrance/exit strategies?
All the best spots are giant white oak trees where I hunt and without screw in steps there’s really no way to hunt and i wish 3:38 I could figure out a way to get up these big trees to hunt ?
John obviously with those beast trees you couldn't be using a lineman belt I would love too see your technique climbing that bad boy, those monster trees I like the thought of double rope technique would be perfect for safety and safest technique for bruiser trees could you show me a start to finish climb on a big brute like that, thank you
@johneberhart4062 obviously John those beast trees I'm now using double rope climbing techniques, it's real safe and Is proficient and always tied in, started that about 4 years ago, great tool for the beast tree, you just got to set pre cord Pera cord before season, a bit of a bitch too chuck throw ball over limb for actual hunt, obviously I wouldn't even attempt that for a hunt day.
John I believe you say 30ft is best in high pressured Michigan bucks. At 30 ft your shot is alot more difficult percentage wise because of the angle. How much more time does it take for the average hunter to be good at that height? Do believe the average bowhunter would be willing to put in the extra time practicing from that height?
@@joshlasure3384it's important for bow hunters to know how many hour's before season he practicing at that height approximately. I understand I bought his dvds and one his books too. Because not everyone is going be put in the extra time. I also seen that video John shooting his roof top.. For example look at all the hunters who by crossbows who don't practice archery at all. No offense to crossbows hunters you have right choose the path of lease resistance. That doesn't make you bad person.
Even a hunter shoting from a lesser height should be practicing from height. Practice makes perfect no matter the height from which they hunt. Someone who doesn't Practice shouldn't be hunting. Wounding a deer should never be on option, it may happen but it should never be a goal. - Joe
@@eberhartoutdoors4219 I gotcha john big fan yours by the way. I do practice between 20 to 25 feet. From my research when hunting between 30ft to 35ft height your kill zone gets smaller on a deer especially if the deer is 5 to 10 yards away. My question is this at that height how many hours do you think it take to become proficient at 30ft to 35ft? The reason why I this important is because I don't believe most bowhunters are going to put the time in practicing. Your a outlier you bowhunt, and scout shoot 5 times the average bowhunter. There's nothing wrong with that more power to you.
John you are the man ,except for the scent lock theory and not a fan of saddle either but no hard feelings - I hunt public land in lower Hudson valley in NYState and ''em pretty sure it's the most pressured land in the USA or close In legal shooting hours Big bucks are very vary of those big trees or any bigger trees for the same reasons you described that they are good for, it's like playing hide and seek -They won't find you where they don't think they need to look like in bull shit trees
I have trees like that but I just can't drive climbing steps (like you do) into those trees..that tree is worth hundreds of dollars for timber but fill it full of steps and its worth nothing. I know I could use screw ins but I typically use 3/8 spikes but try to find trees that are less valuable for timber?
That tree is worth much less on timber than you think. There's alot of volume there but a low grade and most mills don't have processing equipment large enough to handle a base log that diameter. Those super canopy open grown trees are worth way more in habitat value than timber. I hunt public where I can't spike either and I rope climb those trees and typically use a branch as a platform, maybe a strap on ring of steps if I can get them around the tree. I especially like them for rifle season back on the swamp edges where I can access from water and pressure puts deer in my lap.
I've hunted giant trees like that on public with a rock climbing rope and use the same techniques that I used in tree work. Made step aiders from thick paracord and rubber tubing that I could girth hitch all the way around for foot placement. Had a lot more deer come by me that couldn't see me but I was in the middle of a giant pin oak that split. Great videos but! Keep them up because I just started now getting into targeting big bucks and I think I really could use your help. Much respect!
Great video with precise explanation of the set up, it has made me see errors I have made all my life avoiding pressure from other hunters. I realized the lack of my success this year was primarily due to me surrendering heavy cover areas to other hunters due to trying to avoid them, so my season resulted in looking for low pressure hunting areas on both private and public land and not actually hunting deer in pressured areas. I need to change my mind set by using the hunting pressure to my advantage. Thanks for the videos
Hunted a very similar tree this season. Used SRT to climb it and it was probably only way I was getting into that tree. Harvested a nice 8 point out of it as well
As always, great information, John. Thank you for providing us with this valuable information. It was good meeting you in Cadillac last week.
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another great video. Really enjoy how you break down a property. The white board is the way to go too in my opinion. I still like checking aerails and topos to see how a property lays out, but still- you cant substitute old school techniques and boots on the ground.
Great idea with the fold up steps. I use the fixed and those get in the way
Thanks John
Interested in your tether connection to the tree - looks like a t screw type tool - makes sense.
I’m interested in that as well.
@John Eberhart no worries completely understandable - thanks John
My best sets are ring of step sets in high traffic areas on big mature trees. I also like to hang an extra bow hook. Sometimes it helps to hang your bow and ease around the tree hands free.
Nice video john. I’m digging the white board talks! One question , any chance on the next white board session you can talk about you entrance/exit strategies?
Big tree's seem to be magnets for bucks, it seems huge tree's aren't hunted out of much.
Appreciate you taking the time and displaying your tactic on a whiteboard. Only thing better would be to use a satellite image.
All the best spots are giant white oak trees where I hunt and without screw in steps there’s really no way to hunt and i wish 3:38 I could figure out a way to get up these big trees to hunt ?
is there any way to use a lineman belt to safely climb that thing or are you just free climbing it? I'm always too scared to climb trees like that
You got to love the white Board of knowledge.. 😁
John obviously with those beast trees you couldn't be using a lineman belt I would love too see your technique climbing that bad boy, those monster trees I like the thought of double rope technique would be perfect for safety and safest technique for bruiser trees could you show me a start to finish climb on a big brute like that, thank you
What I was wondering too...
@johneberhart4062 obviously John those beast trees I'm now using double rope climbing techniques, it's real safe and Is proficient and always tied in, started that about 4 years ago, great tool for the beast tree, you just got to set pre cord Pera cord before season, a bit of a bitch too chuck throw ball over limb for actual hunt, obviously I wouldn't even attempt that for a hunt day.
John I believe you say 30ft is best in high pressured Michigan bucks. At 30 ft your shot is alot more difficult percentage wise because of the angle. How much more time does it take for the average hunter to be good at that height? Do believe the average bowhunter would be willing to put in the extra time practicing from that height?
He practices from that height a lot. He has a video shooting from his rooftop.
@@joshlasure3384it's important for bow hunters to know how many hour's before season he practicing at that height approximately. I understand I bought his dvds and one his books too. Because not everyone is going be put in the extra time. I also seen that video John shooting his roof top.. For example look at all the hunters who by crossbows who don't practice archery at all. No offense to crossbows hunters you have right choose the path of lease resistance. That doesn't make you bad person.
Even a hunter shoting from a lesser height should be practicing from height. Practice makes perfect no matter the height from which they hunt. Someone who doesn't Practice shouldn't be hunting. Wounding a deer should never be on option, it may happen but it should never be a goal. - Joe
@@eberhartoutdoors4219 I gotcha john big fan yours by the way. I do practice between 20 to 25 feet. From my research when hunting between 30ft to 35ft height your kill zone gets smaller on a deer especially if the deer is 5 to 10 yards away. My question is this at that height how many hours do you think it take to become proficient at 30ft to 35ft? The reason why I this important is because I don't believe most bowhunters are going to put the time in practicing. Your a outlier you bowhunt, and scout shoot 5 times the average bowhunter. There's nothing wrong with that more power to you.
John you are the man ,except for the scent lock theory and not a fan of saddle either but no hard feelings -
I hunt public land in lower Hudson valley in NYState and ''em pretty sure it's the most pressured land in the USA or close
In legal shooting hours Big bucks are very vary of those big trees or any bigger trees for the same reasons you described that they are good for, it's like playing hide and seek -They won't find you where they don't think they need to look like in bull shit trees
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I have trees like that but I just can't drive climbing steps (like you do) into those trees..that tree is worth hundreds of dollars for timber but fill it full of steps and its worth nothing. I know I could use screw ins but I typically use 3/8 spikes but try to find trees that are less valuable for timber?
Look into DRT or SRT climbing method, to get into big trees it works.
That tree is worth much less on timber than you think. There's alot of volume there but a low grade and most mills don't have processing equipment large enough to handle a base log that diameter. Those super canopy open grown trees are worth way more in habitat value than timber.
I hunt public where I can't spike either and I rope climb those trees and typically use a branch as a platform, maybe a strap on ring of steps if I can get them around the tree. I especially like them for rifle season back on the swamp edges where I can access from water and pressure puts deer in my lap.
Be sure to tell people the importance of shot placement from that height close up that's a one lunger