Ty Norris Explains His Role in 2013 NASCAR Scandal
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- Ty Norris, former EVP and GM at Michael Waltrip Racing, played an integral part in the 2013 Richmond race scandal and was suspended as a result. He tells all about what happened that night, taking accountability for his actions and explaining deeper inner workings involving many teams in that race. Hear why he thinks NASCAR had to do something after that night and his reaction to taking the harshest penalty in the sport’s history.
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Just bring back the old Winston points system and this crap won’t happen. This whole Chase format blows. Having a regular season champion and a cup champion? Stupid.
totally agree , playoffs just a circus
Which one? Cause they changed the formula alot during the Winston years
@@codydisney9959 That is what people don't get. NASCAR has evolved and changed the points system over time. This isn't a new concept.
You’re highly uneducated
@@tcmusic6429 tf? Who?
The current points system is why a lot of fans have walked away from NASCAR.
Yep it robbed Harvick last year
It rewards luck not consistency. You can place top 5 all year and get in a wreck that's not your fault and be out of the championship in 1 race
@@tuccimane or you could have a top 15-20 ish car alk year and get a fluke win to advance late in the playoffs
The corporate sponsors want beta males like Jr, the fans want alpha males like his dad....
This friggin Chase has screwed so many drivers it is so wrong and it's not going to get better.
Dale has created a space these guys feel safe in. Kudos to him and Mike.
dale jr is a bleeding heart liberal
@@user-gu1hl2kx2k Yeah, he's awesome, you're right!
@@user-gu1hl2kx2k Dale Jr, a "liberal"??? Why do you say that? Give us at least 2 or 3 examples, please. Like most old school lifelong nascar fans, I quit watching nascar racing entirely, years ago. But back when I was a diehard fan, I don't recall any drivers being liberals. Hell, at that point, there was NEVER even a democrat president to show up at a nascar race, only republicans. By the way, I'm a staunch conservative Christian, but I am NOT "a republican"..........I hate all politicians, they're all crooks. But modern day liberals are by far the worst. Sick freaks. God handed them over to a reprobate mind.
@@user-gu1hl2kx2k Hell yeah, good for him. He's a smart man.
@@howabouthetruth2157,
Excellent statements. The only reason I watch some of Dale's and Kyle's podcasts is for past driver and owner interviews.
Ty Norris: _Has entire masterplan..._
Brian Vickers: *_mass visible confusion_*
He got that from his wife.
Where's Victors now?
@@chuckstith838 apparantly a bad neighbor in New York or something.
2013 was when his at the time girlfriend was photographed with Epstein's recruiter Ghislaine Maxwell too.
@@ashketchumsdad lmao
None of any of it would have happened if the stupid chase wasn't there in the first place.
Bring back 2003!
instead, we ended up with the "win and you're in" system because of all of this. they'd be better off going back to the season long format
seethe
Exactly
it's upsetting how the sport will uproot and ruin almost anything to create excitement at this point ... nothing is sacred anymore, history largely ignored and avoided.... yet the thing that will pull back the MOST fans (and probably revive nascar to a large extent) is to just go with the most obvious solution that literally every racing series since the dawn of time uses : season-long points system, most points win...
I'm glad he called out Marty Smith. I hate that guy with a passion.
Me too.
He really is a piece of crap
Marty Smith is total trash.
He is an egotistical tool.
I can’t believe I watch NASCAR podcasts and I literally know probably 3 drivers 😂
Bro your the man!
I do the same with all kinds of stuff. I watch wrestling podcasts and drama podcasts and all sorts of stuff I don't follow outside of the podcasts lol
I can't believe that I watch BLat every day and Jr. every day.... and BLat is here doing the same!! My favorite 2 channels coming together!!!
Missing out! Jr is the new Rogan
@@illiogicalphilosophy2481 it’s good stuff!
Blame NASCAR for creating a stupid ass playoff system.
It sucks being the one singled out when everybody's doing it. It's like being on the freeway and everybody's running 85 and you get pulled over. Try arguing to the cop everybody else is doing 85 and you'll get the whole if your friends jump off a bridge speech. The media really did villainize this dude back when that happened I remember.
He and Clint.
if my friends jump off a bridge..... and survive because the water is deep enough
ya... imma also jump off that bridge
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thats what i tell the cops when they try that "jump off a bridge" crap
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im just keeping up with traffic....
which is safer than doing 20 under EVERY other car.... causing people to lane change, brake hard.... might cause cars to "pile up" behind me, leading to a traffic jam
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most traffic jams are caused by people driving too slow
ya get 3 cars in a mile doing 20 under..... and soon your gonna have 200 cars piled up behind the slow cars
These IDIOTS who run NASCAR are the same ones that screwed over Junior Johnson. Who brought them their title sponsor for over 32 years
And NASCAR then screwed themselves by getting rid of
WINSTON CUP !!
Like your momma would have said. Don’t worry what other people do worry about what you do.😂
It’s sad that the sanctioning body made Ty Norris their scapegoat. But is anyone ever really surprised? It simplifies everything to have just 1 guy to point a finger at. I’m 100% sure they didn’t expect Norris to rat out every single team that was pulling on-track stunts to get their teammate an advantage here or there. I wish he would’ve GONE PUBLIC with his intel, and further humiliated Drunk Brian France.
I wish I had a dollar for every time a team got away with a scoring “cheat” or a “team order” that aided a teammate or a fellow competitor they had a deal with.
That’s the only reason some of the higher ups were pulling him aside to give him encouragement. It was to try to make sure he didn’t feel the need to oust everyone else for cheating too.
He wasn’t their only scapegoat. How about Jeremy Mayfield? They come down on his ass and Brian France runs his moronic yap about “zero tolerance “. The he gets busted for driving while high. That was the final straw for me being a NASCAR fan.
@@davidschmude Mayfield sold meth aswell as used it. Stole somebody's racing equipment from a parking lot. Not clearing France for anything but Mayfield is a little bit larger p.o.s.
@@davidschmude I'm local to northern georgia, Mayfield has been known as a drug fiend for as long as most people have every known him here. He still shows up to local dirt tracks to make himself feel famous.
I just want to hear Dale rant about Brian Vickers.
Old points system is better. Gotta reward consistency. A true champion runs good all year not just 10 races. KB won the championship after missing half the year. What a joke.
And he still had almost as many wins as any other driver. I agree about the old points system however Kyle was deserving that year
If you do one thing junior, please release every minute of this, i’d love to watch this entire conversation! Love Ty!
You have to listen to the podcast for entire conversation
@@mikekasiner4453 I wish they’d release the entire podcasts w/ the video
Just dropped in to say Thanks to Dale Jr. for all he has done in keeping the Earnhardt name an integral part of all us old Dale Sr. fans lives, His passing put such a heavy load on his shoulders, and the damage done by the unmentionable one, to DEI was in most part, able to be forgotten, as he is the one that Sr's legacy was passed to, not DEI no matter what legal paper work she has to the contrary. Much love and respect for the excellent job you have done in keeping the faith with us, the fans of the Earnhardt Tradition. Thank you.
There’s always going to be a scapegoat. Ty’s the better man in this deal.
And this is why Stage racing and Playoff racing is a bunch of bull
This isn't the first time this has happened. 1993 Watkins Glen. Jack Roush had Wally take Spencer to the grass on the restart and let Mark by, Jack Roush called it over the radio. Later in the season, a short weld on an intake manifold/spacer plate cost Mark Martin the championship. Probably cost Wally his ride, Wally was pissed.
I was totally stunned back then by how this was handled. Those orders are totally normal in F1 and you could see it happening in NASCAR many races before this if you paid attention. You didn't need to be on the tower to see it. It still happens today getting other team drivers wins to 'lock in'. This totally exposed the stupidity of such a points system and NASCAR only doubled down on it. My 4 year old could run NASCAR better than it's current leadership. It's so pathetic what a great sanctioning body has become and how irrelevant stock car racing has become.
Truex ended up "out of a job", signed up with the "no count" Furniture Row Racing, and the rest is some real interesting Nascar history...
Yes, MTJ lost more than any of the other racers, but it ended up being the best thing him going to Furniture Row and being paired with Cole Pearn.
MTJ turned furniture row racing into a competitive Tier 1 team the second he stepped foot in that organization , and especially 2016 when he switched to Toyota
And won his cup series in 2017 with them , even yet 2016 he was a margin close to winning that Daytona 500 from Denny Hamlin ( which 2019 and up they’re teammates now , since MTJ after 2018 because of the Furniture row racing closure had no other choice but to merge with JGR , since furniture row racing had JGR Toyota alliances anyways )
Ty Norris star's in the biggest blockbuster of the summer......
"FALL GUY" is coming to a theater near you!!
(In that movie commercial guys voice)
Ty Norris, Clint Bowyer, in a game, that you regret playing. Fall guy
Then the last quote
"He just came right around, craziest thing I ever saw"
Fall Guy rated pg13
@@ashketchumsdad 😂👍
I am not a big NASCAR fan and stumbled across this podcast. It is amazing and I love Dale’s honesty…I love it
Again, just learn so much when Jr. and Mike have these guests. Outstanding. Thank you. Keep it coming.
This whole podcast with Ty was amazing explained so much. Why DEI is gone the relationship with Sr and Jr. Just watched it on NBC Sports after Nashville. Still wish Jr would of been able to run DEI.
JRM may come out better
Just as much dirty politics in NASCAR as there is in Washington DC.
This is what happens when you mess with points and stages and all the bs nascar has come up with for a championship.
This was years before stage racing and a year before the win and you are in the playoffs.
@@TheForeverRanger ... correct. And this “scandal” forever exposed NASCAR (the sanctioning body, not the racing) as being a complete joke among professionally organized sporting events. To this day, they’re still tweaking, tinkering and willing to alter every single method used to determine their season champion...it’s a 🤡 show!
At least back in the Winston Cup days, teams knew how many points each race awarded, and the few ways it took to gain points on your competition. Now each team needs a genius Director of Competition with computer for a brain and lap by lap spread sheets...
this was years before stage racing and win and your in
Stage racing/“win & you’re in” is partly because of this.
You had drivers with wins who weren’t qualified. All the drivers involved in spingate (except Bowyer) would’ve been already locked in with wins.
Richard Petty said it best: "NASCAR used to be about racing". Today it's about the circus coming to town.
This is what happens when you do playoff crap in racing. Just go back to getting points each week. Total it up
duh
I aint gone lie since my favorite driver Gordon retired i haven't really watched Nascar....But I miss when Nascar had the Dale Jr and the Mark Martins Rusty Wallace's and so forth Nascar will never be the same
We all know this is why most people are going to watch this episode as a whole is the scandal at Richmond.
Maybe from a drivers pov but not for me, Clyde. The discussion on Ty's time at DEI was my favorite part.
I still think it was iffy what he did, but I appreciate him having the guts to admit it, rebuke it, acknowledge the need for it to be systemically fixed or removed, and pointing out that others deserved as much ire, if not more, for using similar schemes, in a system that encouraged such shady dealings.
What's amazing about this is that you had a few teams that night doing stuff like the 55 team. The 15 gets all the attention but no one realizes that David Gilliland and another squad I believe had been making deals as well, and they were investigated by NASCAR afterwards too. That race as a whole, though, was just a blunder for many, many reasons. I hope we don't see another mess of a time like that again but knowing the competitiveness of everyone I doubt that that was the last of the scandals to take place in our sport's history.
At least it gave us the opportunities to watch good ass videos like this (and others) about it down the line.
And edwards jumped the restart
Logano and Gilliland’s teams made a deal and NASCAR even uploaded the radio, but those teams just got told to knock it off and it was swept under the rug.
@@warrenself the fact that they didn't get the hammer from nascar is quite baffling
@@nascarnational Truly. Ty getting all the blame is awful. Playoffs have created so much turmoil and hurt the sport but NASCAR thinks the drama helps. Sad.
Things like this have made NASCAR a total joke! Stage racing, car of tomorrow, etc, all bullshit! Get back to a time when the driver skill actually mattered!
NASCAR is still stumbling around in total confusion.....
Just another reason I haven't watched NASCAR for years. It's more like the WWE where the company controls the story line. True, they cannot make sure a certain driver, owner or manufacturer wins a race but they selectively enforce rules or change rules to effect outcomes. Get you some DIRTVision. Your choice of three different live events tonight and 2 different live events tomorrow. No bullshit politics, no playing favorites.
I wanted to hear about the jet fuel stuff or whatever it was....
That's what I was expecting to hear about
Ty Norris got my respect
Can someone explain this like explaining it to someone who doesn't watch nascar?
Please! I don't know what they're talking about.
@@samanthab1923 My recollection is, a driver intentionally spun his car shortly before the end of a race, creating a yellow flag situation, which froze the drivers' positions, which allowed another driver to enter the «playoffs».
Look up the Richmond race scandal, I don’t remember what year this was. Basically Michael Waltrip Racing radioed to their drivers, had one pit for no reason other than to manipulate points and had another intentionally spin his car out to bring out a yellow flag. Doing so put their other driver into the playoff format and knocked out a driver. When they caught wind of what MWR did they fined and penalized them, I don’t remember if the points penalty itself was enough to remove their car from the playoff chase or they outright removed them but they gave the spot to Jeff Gordon who was knocked out due to their manipulation of the race.
Adding to rundown- the driver who was removed from the playoffs was Martin Truex Jr, who was sponsored by NAPA Auto Parts. Napa was so disappointed by what happened that they dropped their sponsorship of Michael Waltrip Racing's car, causing Martin Truex Jr to lose that ride and possibly his career in Cup racing. Fortunately, he ended up getting a ride later with Furniture Row Motorsports, where he struggled for a couple years, until they formed an alliance with Joe Gibbs Racing and he went on to win a championship at Furniture Row before moving to JGR. Meanwhile, Michael Waltrip Racing ended up closing their doors after losing not only Napa's sponsorship, but a few others as well and couldn't afford to continue racing.
The s**t always hits the fan when you say the quiet stuff out loud.
Nascar is a joke now every week its gonna be Hendricks or Gibbs or penski guarantee that except Talladega or Daytona we are tire of watching spoiled little rich kids drive these cars
Haha
ty you should've just told brian yes you have a tire going down
That would have been the NASCAR equivalent of "Fernando is faster than you. Can you confirm you understood that message?"
I have an idea, how about the guy who places best all year, wins the big trophy at the end.............
Ryan McGee is the biggest joke there is. He is part of the problem with NASCAR. A bunch of morons talking about stuff they have no idea about. I have as much experience running a NASCAR team as Ryan McGee. What a joke. Ty Norris is awesome. One of the best podcasts so far.
Mind you McGee is the same guy who wrote an article on how Kurt's suspension shouldn't have been lifted, despite the charges being dropped
I'd include Marty Smith as well,His stupidity is on display regularly.
Not enough
He and Jim Utter. Both trash.
But if McGee was on here you'd be praising him. People like you are too easy to manipulate. What Norris did was terrible and he is now forever known as a failure.
I would rather watch 2-3 hour of the "behind the scene drama" then watch the race. Jr get on that
"If you're not cheating, you're not trying. If you get caught cheating, you're not trying hard enough." Words of wisdom from my first Training Advisory Councilor (TAC) in the Army.
There always has to be a fall guy.
TY got screwed by NASCAR.
Last year ( I think at Phoenix ??)
JGR told the 20 Do Not Pass the 11. Nothing ever happened to them.
That's race manipulation !!!
It is really sad what they call "nascar", now a days.
I hope the wild days of rogue drivers and mechanics come back and change the dynamic of "PC NASCAR".
1st of all, I don’t dislike Jeff Gordon. When nascar created the 13th spot for him, I quit watching and will never watch again. I have seen so many times over the years the rules bent to fit their own agenda.
Cry cry and cry some more that your butt hurt
Ty,
Thanks for fleshing out your side of the story. Yet, as a former NASCAR fan, everything wasn't ok even if Jim France and others told you it would be. In fact, that was the evening I walked out of those stands and never watched another race.
Fast forward to the "woke agenda" of today and I completely dropped off the map in viewing/supporting any professional sports.
Wokeness has killed my interest in professional sports and most media now
Same
Me Three after i watched the Clippers lay down & throw the last 2 games of the season so they wouldnt have to face the Lakers in the first round of the nba playoffs! wtf i will never root for them again, what a joke!
Yeah, but in all fairness, Nascar is ultimately the one to blame here. Until they bring back a year long championship points system that rewards the best driver in the year, these same types of shenanigans will continue to happen.
This is nothing new....back in the day, there were rumors that a timely Buddy Arrington spin that kept Petty on the lead lap late in a race would result in the arrival of some much needed parts Monday morning. Don't blame Arrington...he was a struggling independent. This is not confirmed, but it was out there at the time...
Blame Brian Vickers for this one. If he would have pitted as he was told to nothing would have happened.
This is in no ways Vickers fault
@@MJForever1999 have to agree with ya. Vickers just kinda ended up in between a rock and a hard place at a REALLY bad time
Why is pitting for a point a problem?
You're either a stand up guy or a snitch. The choice was made and that's how it works.
ya, sorry but none of that happens without playoffs or chases or whatever they call it now... the playoffs have to go, they have ruined the sport! My family used to fly over from England to go to Daytona, the chase ended it for me
WWE: we are a show not a sport. Nascar: Hold our beer.
Mike helton 3:16
NASCAR is going to protect their franchise faces. Always have. I like Ty...
Spingate 2013 was the beginning of the end for me. Started with Clint Boyer not manning up and admit it was intentional, (NASCAR scrambled the incar camera when Clint cranked the wheel left), then they wouldn't act like an impartial governing body (to protect Toyota, I assume). Cancelled my season tickets to 2 tracks and went from never missing a telecast to occasionally watching and haven't been to a race since. Won't even get started on TV start times, The Chase, Seg Racing, Drivers buying their seat, ect. ect. ect.
I seem to remember Dale SR, having Neil Bonnet park and start on the final race of 1993 for pretty much the same reason.
Damn i was hoping he'd talk more about Bowyer spinning... how i remember it: No matter what happened, Kahne was a lock for the chase due to 2 wins and below 10th in points (at the time it was top 10 plus highest winners between 11th and 20th in points). Newman took the lead from Edwards with 8 or 9 to go; a win would give him 2, and knock Truex out for sure. Bowyer spins, caution comes out and about everyone pits; Newman loses the lead. From there, Logano was ALSO behind Gordon in points, meaning Logano was 11th and Gordon 10th, this meant Logano would be the 12th man in the chase due to being higher in points than Newman or Truex. So Vickers pitting put Logano back to 10th and Gordon to 11th (Gordon didn't have a win yet that year). When all was said and done, IIRC Truex ended up tying Newman in points and got the tie breaker based on 2nd place finishes, and Logano beat Gordon by 1 to be 10th in points. The Front Row car of Gilliland (or maybe Ragan) helped Logano, and I believe they got fined afterwards, and that's what Ty was referring to there. Not sure what Hendrick car he was referring to "struggling", I'm guessing Kahne?
I've said it once, I'll say it again. nascar created this, they created to chase a pionts system with the ability for that to happen
After it ended those guys went to work for the Astro s. Lol
lol
Fans who followed the sport closely knew those things were going on and were just happy the team or driver they supported did not get caught up in it. Ty and Martin Truex were the guys who probably got hurt the most.
The best consolation there is Martin went on and became a champion and there was nothing they could do to rig that I'm sure NASCAR tried but Martin is going to be gone and the way he's been running I think it's probably best he can't get out of his own way😢
As ty is a partner in trackhouse racing which is the remnant that’s left of DEI I laugh at Theresa Earnhardt.
Dale Jr and Mike are great interviewers. That being said the details Ty talked about seem to outline how complicated NASCAR has become and it's not a good thing
One of the many reasons I hate the Chase is because it leads to shady crap like this!
If only Brian Vickers had just shut the hell up and pit, but what's past is past.
NASCAR has always had those mystery debris caution at the end of races
Or stuff like when Chase Elliot most popular driver is leading at COTA the first time NASCAR has been there and they finally decided to throw the red flag for heavy rain.
You know it’s a bogus flag when the announcers and the camera crew can’t find the debris on track and then they all just drop the subject and the cameras start showing the crowd.
You’re a real man when your explanation doesn’t include a back story of how everyone else is doing “fishy” stuff before you explain you part in the story...
After hearing this podcast, I can see McMurrays beef with Nascar.
Ty I’d have done the same thing. You did you the thing that was best at that time for your team...
He's not being accountable. It doesnt matter what Hendrick did, its about what you and your company did.
"I made a mistake. Take it in the jaw and move past it." - That sounds like being accountable to me. Pointing out other people were also doing the same thing is not the same as people who say "Its okay what I did because everyone else was doing it..." he's giving context to the situation for the story, he's not trying to justify what he did as the right thing to do.
I don't think anyone from MWR will ever tell the full truth of that day.
"I don't think anyone from MWR will ever tell the full truth of that day." Probably not. I'm sure Jimmie Johnson and Chad Knaus will never ever admit to doing precisely what Ty Norris and Brian Vickers did at the exact same time. Hendricks is WAAAY too powerful for NASCAR to accuse of anything. Hendricks has manipulated the President of the United States to absolve him of criminal acts that he was sentenced to the Federal Penitentiary for. He's like "The Godfather" with all the power he wields and the "favors" he bestows on his friends. What chance does Brian Franz have against him calling him out for cheating in NASCAR? Two teams do the exact same thing at the exact same time and one team owner (MWR) gets fined one of the largest fines in the history of NASCAR and is disgraced. The other team owner (HMS) gets NASCAR to change the rules on the spot to allow his driver into the playoffs when the rules said no. I realize that Rick Hendricks is one of the most respected owners in NASCAR, just not by me.
It is as fake as pro-wrestling anymore.
not a nascar or race fan. but this is a good podcast. they should sign with youtube
What the hell!! Ads have gotten so out of control that we have an ad in the middle of a 8 min or so video that is just part of the video not marked at a UA-cam ad. This is too out of control
You’re solid in my eyes Ty. Thanks for supporting the Earnhardt name for so long.
Teresa Houston Earnhardt is a narrisisst.
NASCAR has become too politically correct and is on their knees to the corporations that bring the money. That is why I was never able to get back in after 9/11 when I lost my job as a crew chief in the Truck series. I am too old school to fit in that world....
Lol yeah I’m sure that’s why
So corporate America is responsible for the loss of your job? That sounds like quite a stretch,and makes absolutely no sense....
Basically Ty’s saying he got in trouble because Vickers could just listen to his team without an explanation.
Omg you cheated just own it , your explanation of why you pitted Vickers doesn't even make sense
Wait, so Michael waltrip still has a career and this guy doesn't? Hmmm.....
Dale needs to make a room dedicated to his dad and give his fans a P.O. Box to send in memorabilia for the room and just decorate the whole room with all of his collectibles, I have several new stuff in the box branded with his seniors signature
My daily and my road course car both have MWR shift knobs in them that we got from the liquidation sale. Hate to see what happened over there, they had the best fan tour facility in the area.
Ive never been much of a nascar fan but ive thoroughly enjoyed your show! its been an interesting behind the scenes peek!! keep it up, ill keep watching!
I don't get why they all gave him the cold shoulder knowing everyone did it. Doesn't make sense. Its like the drunk that drove home and made it, getting mad at another drunk for getting busted driving. They both drove drunk , just one got caught.
Hendricks field an extra team one year and after the race started, pulled that car into the garage so Gordon could win the points championship? How is that different?
@@davidlittlefield7825 RCR did something similar. All Dale had to do was take the green flag to win the championship so they entered another car. If Dale's wouldn't start, he could jump in the other car.
Ask Rob Kaufman why he signs bowyer to a new deal when he had no plans to honor it.
This is all a product of this ridiculous chase format.
I have been to nascar races since 1970.when I got home from vietnam and started watching nascar there was cheating like sin when I started.nascar has its picks for who can do what
Ty made the mistake of saying the quiet part out loud
The point is completely lost in this conversation. Dale was so close to it, NASCAR lost it's last bit of legitimacy in making a spot up out of nowhere and then to fix the rapidly disappearing fan base that you've now shown your distance from, they implemented a point system that makes all the problems of before worse...they doubled down. I appreciate that ty is taking responsibility for his own actions but the problem is that NASCAR never has not never will take responsibility for theirs and it is undeniably killing the sport. Numbers don't lie
No surprise that in NASCAR we love Creative engineering and it's allowed it always has been a part of NASCAR but to think and be so naive that NASCAR isn't the biggest cheater of all the bunch and it doesn't surprise me to hear Hendrix who's probably the best cheater of all the cars in NASCAR that have raised I think they put Smoky Yunick and some of those Champion creative Engineers to shame with the amount of cheating they have done that whole bunch therefore I have no respect for NASCAR they have no credibility the racing is well let's see we bet on NASCAR so anytime betting is involved you can bet there's going to be some adjustments in what is done to compromise the race it's just the world we live in now with big corporations that have more money than brains and that's all they care about they don't care about fans they're always going to have fans and they've got plenty of money you're never going to break them so great story guys I think you should have pursued this to the max and took whatever they tried to deliver you cuz you could have burned them all I do not think they could have destroyed you and now you're at track house another team that's trying to find its legs again after a great start in one year but can't seem to do anything more or less Chastain isn't performing like he did Daniel has problems you're only bad as the wind Chicago with Shane you're just not a player anymore but I can see why it's hard to compete against the Hendrix Mega Giant and jgr you probably never going to be able to stand up to those two teams and eventually NASCAR will evolve into two teams they have the most money and money allows them to do many things and allows many officials to look the other way sad I just don't put any stock in NASCAR anymore they just create silly crap😮
There was nothing wrong with what the Waltrip team did. You use every advantage ty and the team were smart and got penalized for working the system that NASCAR made! And when JJ won all those ships in a row and they were not cheating😂🤡😂🤡😂
This is the only thing I watch pertaining to NASCAR. I haven't watched a race in almost 20 years.
Me too my friend. No races since Stewart retired.
Cool. Want a cookie?
No mention of Clint.
He did mention "the 15" when he was talking about all of the radio channels he was listening to. He said something to the effect of people claim he was talking to the 15, but he didn't have the time (because of all the other chatter).
@@Zach636465 I was hoping he would tell us what made Clint's arm itch.
This what NASCAR has created with this stupid ass playoff system. It’s skewed and blatantly robbed Harvick last year
Why not discuss nascar's move to make "Chase" the winner of the TX road race to insure the "Most Popular" driver will be in "The Chase"? That was more obvious that the Warren Commission! GEEZ!
Yup. That was b.s.
So what's your excuse gonna be when Chase stomps on the field tomorrow?
NASCAR is just like the NBA if you're a big star the rules don't really apply to you I'm old enough to remember watching Michael Jordan play and the dude was never called for traveling and never called for offensive fouls if anybody ever breathes too close to LeBron James it's a foul Or in the NASCAR world allowing Gibbs to tell the 20 car to move over and let Denny Hamlin pass last year. But destroying a man's name and completely bringing down a small team that was on the edge of blowing up for manipulating the results of a race in a very similar way just a few years earlier. 🙄. Oh and I forgot about the times that Dale Jr or Denny Hamlin pass below the yellow line and it was okay cuz he was forced but Regan Smith had his win taken away for the crime of not being famous enough or selling enough t-shirts.
@@kingofrunescapepking They have no excuse, It's like they dont think Chase could points his way in or won on another Sunday
what, you mean the rain? drivers and fans alike said it was pouring, and according to the radar it wasn't going to stop, plus the track didn't have lights. they already tested their luck with the Harvick wreck and with the Truex wreck laps later. they would've called the race after that red flag no matter who was in the lead, even if it was a Rick Ware car.
Ecxatly why we don't support NASCAR anymore.......Go SRX!
Vickers should have just brought it in ! Lol
About the time my interest in NASCAR started waning. Too much playing with the points system. Barely watch NASCAR anymore but do watch F1.
You want an f1 cookie or something?
@@illiogicalphilosophy2481 Just a statement clown. Didn't ask for anything.
Just saying, as a Gordon fan, knowing he got fucked like that, I probably would have stopped watching then and there had they not given him the extra spot.