FARMER CLAIMS "VEGANS WANT TO MURDER CHILDREN!!" [BBC RADIO DEBATE]

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  • @JoeyCarbstrong
    @JoeyCarbstrong  7 років тому +773

    Even though its not my job as an animal rights activist to redesign slave farms. I thought I'd be courteous enough to leave some suggestions to some lucrative plants farmers could consider. [Also to note there are other ways of using land which doesn't involve crops at all, just need to be creative. I'll make a video addressing this soon.]
    1. GINSENG [$100,000 on a half-acre plot]
    Used for thousands of years in Asian cultures as a healing herb and tonic, this plant brings in so much profit for growers it has been dubbed “green gold”. Even George Washington saw the potential of this plant; ginseng profits helped finance the Revolutionary war against the British. If you have a small vacant plot and a touch of patience this plant can reap huge rewards. Why patience? Because growing ginseng can take up to six years, as you will have to wait until the roots have fully-matured to harvest them for consumption. If that is well-beyond your timeframe, you can also sell young “rootlets” to other growers to bring some return on investment within a manageable time-frame. Over the six year period, growers can make as much as $100,000 on a half-acre plot from seeds, rootlets and mature roots. With ginseng, early birds most definitely do not get the worm.
    2. GOURMET MUSHROOMS [10X10 17,500$ season]
    The fungus among us grow practically anywhere in the right conditions. They also yield an incredibly high return per square foot. The two most popular gourmet mushroom varieties are oyster and shiitake, which are usually available fresh or dried in most grocery stores and Farmer’s Markets. Of the two options, oysters are especially productive. They can produce up to 25 pounds per square foot of growing space area each year. When selling direct to the consumer, such as restaurants or at Farmer’s Markets, oysters can bring in $7 per pound. That means a 10 x 10 square foot patch of mushrooms can bring in $17,500 per season.
    3. BAMBOO
    Unlike trees and many shrubs, this plant matures quickly and can bring in huge profits for growers. And maturing fast is an understatement; bamboo has been known to grow over two feet in one 24 hour period. So if you decide to go with this plant, make sure you know what you’re signing up for. Bamboo is growing in popularity as a landscaping plant, and growers say their product is only increasing in demand each year. You may assume bamboo only grows in tropical climates, but these towering plants also thrive in hardy, sub-freezing weather. While the culinary uses of this plant are limited, landscapers are increasingly using bamboo as a hedge, screen, or shade plant. Many bamboo nurseries are reporting solid sales of potted bamboo at prices up to $200 per plant.
    4. HERBS
    Growers can prosper from incorporating herbs into their garden. Considering many herbs can grow on windowsills with limited light during winter months, this bodes well for growers looking to incorporate a plant that doesn’t require excessively demanding attention. The herbs in highest demand are fresh culinary herbs for grocery stores and restaurants. Farmer’s Markets are once again an excellent place to offer these plants. One way to offer them is as a 4-herb windowsill size garden that is purchased ready-to-snip. Growers may also snip and package themselves - dried or undried - for patrons looking for instant enjoyment. There’s nearly no end to the choices of herb to grow, including a broad range of ethnic herbs for serious cooks. For beginnings, here’s a list of the top 10 most profitable herbs you can grow.
    5. MEDICINAL MARIJUANA/HEMP
    For growers with capital to invest upfront, medicinal marijuana (or legally-grown in Washington and Colorado) can be as profitable as Apple stores. That’s right, as profitable as the most profitable company in history. Apple made about $4,650 in sales per square foot in 2013, and a dispensary in New York state could net anywhere from $3,500 to $5,000 in revenue per square foot that same year. As more states follow in the footsteps of Washington and Colorado, and the taxation for this crop is figured out on a state-by-state basis the market price may diminish slightly. But make no mistake, a 2014 article from Fast Company found that marijuana is the world’s most lucrative cash crop. For those ahead of the curve (now!), the potential income from this controversial plant is immense.
    Gardening is certainly not all about making money, but it’s sure is nice to do once in a while. Whether you’re looking to start a new business, add to your current offerings, or just generate some additional cash-flow, these five options can bring big returns for savvy gardeners. Looking for the perfect greenhouse to start this process early and grow deeper into the season? Rimol has the setup for growers of all experience levels and needs.
    Special thanks to @vegan_education_center for the info. Find them on instagram. Peace.

    • @bintipper1243
      @bintipper1243 7 років тому +50

      Wow, Joey... Such an AWESOME VIDEO! You're slaying them like a logic ninja!

    • @savannahdexter368
      @savannahdexter368 7 років тому +28

      Joey Carbstrong .please proof these threats I cannot see any threats so far, so far I seen a compassionate group.... wake up world. Keep going joey .

    • @jasonpettet3825
      @jasonpettet3825 7 років тому +13

      This is really good information, u certainly don’t need to do all the work in telling them how to transform there farms, but mentioning simply some of the topics u have listed above on the air would be a great start! 🌱

    • @annapomelo3818
      @annapomelo3818 7 років тому +18

      Awsome suggestions! This is good to know for us vegans, too!

    • @heofthetribe7137
      @heofthetribe7137 7 років тому +9

      Well done

  • @christopherrobinbuilds
    @christopherrobinbuilds 7 років тому +750

    With just a quick Google search, I've found you can grow cherries, plums, apples, pears, strawberries, quince, tomatoes, brussel sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, celeriac, leeks, parsnips, swede, turnips, watercress, winter salads, and rosemary in Kent county. I'm not even from the UK, just a Californian with a laptop.

    • @casualjoe2
      @casualjoe2 7 років тому +24

      Lupins are a great alternative to soy and grow well here

    • @mulligatawnysoup9281
      @mulligatawnysoup9281 7 років тому +3

      Cool

    • @TheRealTycoNash
      @TheRealTycoNash 7 років тому +4

      Way to go brother! ✌❤🌱

    • @nicoaustin5595
      @nicoaustin5595 7 років тому +12

      I know for a flaming fact that you can grow all of these and more in Kent & Sussex

    • @danielmarrama9083
      @danielmarrama9083 7 років тому +23

      The farmer doesn't really give a shit, he hasn't done the research because what works for him works and doesn't want to change.

  • @davidjensen6215
    @davidjensen6215 7 років тому +36

    "My dogs are very controllable they can do anything I like"... This farmer is only thinking about him self. WAKE UP!!!!

  • @druma9691
    @druma9691 7 років тому +172

    We knew an animal farmer who changed use of his land into a caravan and camping park. He became a millionaire and was no longer suicidal.

    • @purexisdelirium6895
      @purexisdelirium6895 5 років тому +1

      Does he still eat meat?

    • @purexisdelirium6895
      @purexisdelirium6895 5 років тому +3

      @@domenikvalci7743 it's horrible.
      Against nature to kill animals though? I'm not sure.
      You don't really get the same human reaction with humans that hunt animals to eat.
      Consistent mass slaughter is much different.

    • @purexisdelirium6895
      @purexisdelirium6895 5 років тому +3

      @@domenikvalci7743 that's an over simplification of the human condition.
      Hunters kill deffensless animals to eat all the time and don't suffer from terrible psychological effects.
      History is absolutely littered with the killing and eating of animals, from country to country, from culture to culture.
      Vegans have been fighting the meat industry for decades...it IS in our nature.
      Wether that makes it right by our own moral standards is a different story.
      But nature? Humans are capable of terrible things, the killing of animals isn't even at the top.
      Fighting against that nature might be a reasonable argument, but to deny it is folly.

    • @oscarcat1231
      @oscarcat1231 5 років тому

      Domenik totally!

    • @gregshearer423
      @gregshearer423 5 років тому

      Druma well that’s fucken bullshit 😂😂😂 became a millionaire did he any more shit to say ya fuck head

  • @ThePringle268
    @ThePringle268 7 років тому +409

    For someone who is so against slaughter Joey, you absolutely murdered it 👊

  • @lauralasker8415
    @lauralasker8415 7 років тому +105

    One more thing.. “we have a nice pleasant little slaughterhouse.” F**k me are these people serious??

    • @toygummybear9397
      @toygummybear9397 7 років тому +5

      Laura Lasker apparently they are I’ve heard em all !

    • @Golactico
      @Golactico 3 роки тому +1

      I'm surprised that Joey didn't challenge the moron about that oxymoron he came out with.

    • @mikepopstar
      @mikepopstar 3 роки тому +4

      @@poerava Killing innocent animals with your kids is like psychopatic, poor kids. Show them how animals are tortured, used and killed for egoists and they will choose a more humane way to live.

    • @VNavale
      @VNavale 3 роки тому

      He would use the same phrase to describe Austwich.

    • @MetalizedButt
      @MetalizedButt 3 роки тому +1

      @@poerava that would be an amazing and informative experience

  • @waywardwinchester
    @waywardwinchester 7 років тому +162

    LOL it is like talking to a child. "Iodine tho".

    • @Sam-ep3jo
      @Sam-ep3jo 7 років тому +2

      "teat dip tho"

    • @Chapsikan2801
      @Chapsikan2801 6 років тому +4

      Wayward Winchester salt can be bought with iodine in it, which is recommended by health professionals. I hope that farmer is eating the right salt 😉

  • @theveganvillainess
    @theveganvillainess 7 років тому +137

    Lol, he really struggled to find the difference between his dogs and a lamb.. That's because there isn't much, they are both sentient beings who just want to live their life.

    • @kolmorka
      @kolmorka 7 років тому +19

      Zone 9 He made the difference in whether they can obey him or not that was so fucked up

    • @theveganvillainess
      @theveganvillainess 7 років тому +8

      Kolmorka yeah and it was a stupid argument of him too because lambs can be trained as well to obey commands. Pretty much any domesticated animal can be trained, even chickens.

    • @TheRoarWithin
      @TheRoarWithin 7 років тому +16

      Typical farmer, suggesting animals only have a right to live if they are useful and willing to obey.

    • @EuroMIX2
      @EuroMIX2 7 років тому +4

      It was very much an appeal to culture and traditionalism.
      "I was raised to do and believe this, so it must be right and true".

    • @WTFIDIED
      @WTFIDIED 7 років тому +2

      Lambs are delicious

  • @AbigaleKirsten
    @AbigaleKirsten 5 років тому +30

    Oh my gosh... Why do people always find a difference between animals and dog. Jeez when I ate meat, i still wasn't bringing up nonsense.

    • @Adam-cr8qe
      @Adam-cr8qe 3 роки тому +1

      Its a huge hypocracy that the western world whether they eat meat or not simply have to be honest about. We do live in a very blinkered society

    • @AlbuquerqueBandit
      @AlbuquerqueBandit 3 роки тому +1

      I'm glad no vegan publicly debated me. Otherwise, I would've looked like an idiot.

    • @Lammy2023
      @Lammy2023 3 роки тому +1

      Because dogs have helped us for countless years? We are the main reason we have them, they are companions. There's a huge difference.

    • @AlbuquerqueBandit
      @AlbuquerqueBandit 3 роки тому

      @@Lammy2023 Pigs have helped us find truffles for countless years. Horses were a method of transportation for millenia. Roosters functioned as alarm clocks before electricity. Cattle were used for centuries to plow fields.
      Yet all of these animals are raised in unfavorable conditions and then used and killed for entertainment purposes, especially one of the worst entertainment purposes - meat.
      We can get all nutrients from plants. The act of killing a harmless animal for meat in modern civilization is nothing more than an act conducted for entertainment purposes, because people enjoy consuming their flesh. Beyond the enjoyment, there is no purpose.

    • @Lammy2023
      @Lammy2023 3 роки тому

      @@AlbuquerqueBandit yea, dogs have also helped with finding truffles. Horses have been a method of transportation, I don't see anyone I know of buying horse meat. Roosters today are still alarm clocks. Cattle helped for sure, but are they raised in farms that slaughter them, or are they raised to help with the fields?

  • @tweg5
    @tweg5 7 років тому +174

    I almost broke my keyboard listening to the worst arguments against veganism ever. It is crazy.

    • @Russhopson
      @Russhopson 7 років тому +16

      N0vice I literally can’t believe what I just heard. And that man, that ignorant fool of a man is in charge of animals lives... Or should I say deaths 🤦🏻‍♂️😡😡😡 😡😡

    • @injustice2damianwayne234
      @injustice2damianwayne234 7 років тому +3

      N0vice I face palmed so hard, I agree with you...

    • @thegrammar_nazi
      @thegrammar_nazi 7 років тому +1

      I heard a new one yesterday... "internet tho"

    • @NorwegianMonarchist
      @NorwegianMonarchist 7 років тому +4

      Vegans are monsters. They're doing exactly the same. They're killing and eating plants without their conscent. Destroying their natural habbit. Just because plants don't feel pain like animals does not give you any right to kill them and eat them

    • @tweg5
      @tweg5 7 років тому +5

      If u care for plants in the way you are talking about you should be vegan because more plants are killed in the process of getting animal products than for vegan products.

  • @PodwojneD
    @PodwojneD 7 років тому +14

    This whole interview made my heart stop, good job Joey for staying strong!

  • @orpheusowlallearthlingsmat6076
    @orpheusowlallearthlingsmat6076 7 років тому +547

    His description of a "nice pleasant little abattoir" sounds so quaint and picturesque and sweet! Please bring the "children" that the vegans are "threatening to murder" to this bucolic, heavenly little place to see the real definition of "abuse" -- what goes on inside! Fantastic job as always Joey!

    • @Russhopson
      @Russhopson 7 років тому +22

      ORPHEUS OWL Lone Wolf Vegan Warrior - our peaceful pleasant little Abbatoir, where we stab a animals in the neck for no reason other than they taste nice. The ignorance is mind blowing.

    • @Tonytruand09
      @Tonytruand09 7 років тому +13

      I was horrified when I heard this! I could see myself at night around his nice pleasant abattoir in the fog, and him chasing us with a chainsaw! 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

    • @Russhopson
      @Russhopson 7 років тому +9

      Tonytruand09 ah you’ve got the wrong end of the stick Tony, it’s a lovely peaceful quaint little house of fear, pain and suffering. All they do there is slit innocent animals throats. No biggie 🤨

    • @nathantrudgill5057
      @nathantrudgill5057 7 років тому +5

      ORPHEUS OWL Lone Wolf Vegan Warrior it's an oxymoron

    • @SincerelyShireen
      @SincerelyShireen 7 років тому +8

      Tonytruand09
      It sounded very sinister. It was very upsetting how easily those words came out of his mouth.

  • @zerozilchnada5373
    @zerozilchnada5373 2 роки тому +9

    Omg Joey, I don't know how after so many years you manage to keep your calm when hearing the ludicrous arguments people try to make to justify their ignorance.
    That's me putting it kindly 🙄

  • @Jason_Disbury
    @Jason_Disbury 7 років тому +202

    very good well done, i have been a meat eater for 47 years, last year i flipped a switch to become vegan overnight, and haven't looked back since, people say they should dip the toes in as a comparison to some smokers patch, and just cut down but for me you have to be very very weak minded not to just say no to a bacon sandwich, i could understand if vegan food was a little on the thin side , but for me there is such an abundance to choose from, and so delicious, i think people should spend an afternoon with the pig, lamb, cow chicken of their choice, i can not think of one animal that i have a hunger for, Keep it up Joey very inspiring.

    • @mulligatawnysoup9281
      @mulligatawnysoup9281 7 років тому +3

      Yay!

    • @conorflannery3179
      @conorflannery3179 7 років тому +16

      jason of the disbury family exactly same as me! Realised what Id been doing for 19 years. Changed over night! Still going 7months now

    • @nicolafigini784
      @nicolafigini784 7 років тому +20

      I went vegan overnight after watching "Earthlings " two weeks ago. I'm 50, and had been a meat-eater all my life. Best decision I ever made.

    • @Jason_Disbury
      @Jason_Disbury 7 років тому +3

      yes i fully empathise with you my entire family are still meat eater my wife eats chicken nearly every day of the week and the smell of cooked flesh in the house knocks me sick, i have never smoked, but my mum who has smoked all of her life had to give up due to ill health, and she said how much people smell terribly, not condemning smokers but for none smokers this is a fact it just stinks, i have said this to my wife on how much the cooked flesh makes me want to throw up, but im told just open a window, its really hard here now that i have awoken to a better way both my freezers are so full of dead animal, it just makes me sick, i have asked and begged my wife and kids to watch, forks over knives, cowconspiracy, what the health, i can see my relationship making a turn for the worst but something has to change. on a good note my mother has more or less turned vegan she has given up everything but honey, she said she's not interested in having a label put on her, but does see the benefits of not eating meat, health wise or morality

    • @Jason_Disbury
      @Jason_Disbury 7 років тому +3

      i haven't watched earthlings, just found it on youtube so i will give it ago in 2 mins thankyou, if anyone else is interested ua-cam.com/video/BrlBSuuy50Y/v-deo.html

  • @enasksenos
    @enasksenos 7 років тому +3

    Hey Joey!
    Couldn't help but stop by and say that what you do is GREAT! We all should be grateful for having people like you and Ed-and James Aspey and many MANY more!- around!
    Can't thank you enough, sometimes we need to stand on our feet calm and honest till people finally realize what is happening.
    Stay well!

  • @NewlyAwakened
    @NewlyAwakened 7 років тому +91

    I've seen many many videos of vegans at slaughter houses and never seen violence from the vegans. I have seen intimidating workers however. I have also seen many social media posts from the animal farming proponents that are very violent in nature. It's there for all to see.

    • @jennyhorsburgh1078
      @jennyhorsburgh1078 7 років тому +2

      Newly Awakened well getting a point across that has no valid argument against it is obviously going to be intimidating if u are trying to find an answer that doesn't exist lol

    • @calbertjames3095
      @calbertjames3095 7 років тому

      I know right? how good is meat!

    • @krys5092
      @krys5092 7 років тому +1

      The food industry goes after and kills activists too!

    • @catkin-z8g
      @catkin-z8g 7 років тому

      you like the taste of the plants you put on the meat? why not just eat it plane if it tastes good? truth is it is disgusting and that is exactly why so much money was made going to africa and asia to get spices,. truth is the english like the taste of mint sauce and mustard and were excited to eat more plants from further afield. they did not go and bring back some different animals to eat coz it tasted just as bad as the beef and pork.

  • @v4vegan838
    @v4vegan838 7 років тому +2

    They can never justify killing innocent animals for food and the farmer and man in the studio came across as grasping at straws for arguments. How you keep so patient with them is amazing.

  • @cynicalidealist11
    @cynicalidealist11 7 років тому +284

    You completely destroyed him when he brought up "Intelligence tho".

    • @latinainwpb
      @latinainwpb 7 років тому +9

      Yup, there was a time in history when the handicapped or mentally deficient were killed as a matter of fact. And even in more "civilized" times they were treated horribly in those institutions where they "warehoused" them. And not that long ago doctors that found out through a sonogram that an unborn baby had Down's Syndrome advised termination of the pregnancy, that's how little value even some humans get. Lack of compassion drives some to always treat those who they view as "inferior" in the same way, so it's not surprising that they do the same to animals, they're "ideal" victims because they cannot protest or say how they feel. It's the sick and/or arrogant ego that wants to feel superior to at all costs which turns some people into uncaring monsters that don't deserve to be called human at all.

  • @EsquireUnlimited
    @EsquireUnlimited 7 років тому +2

    handled like a boss, waking up the masses! well done Joey!

  • @stillavegan9250
    @stillavegan9250 7 років тому +283

    Why is Joey always having to debate with organic farmers when 98% of the meat comes from factory farms?

    • @howclassy2148
      @howclassy2148 7 років тому +48

      Still a Vegan They are probably trying to say something like "Hey, here's this vegan activist arguing for veganism but look how well the animals are taken care of!! No need to go vegan! This guy is just stupid." Or something like that. They are trying to make it seem like the animals are so well taken care of that there's no reason to go vegan, when 99% of the time that isn't the case

    • @mulligatawnysoup9281
      @mulligatawnysoup9281 7 років тому +23

      But the organic farmers are all just as ridiculous as the factory farmers could be, so it doesn´t work.

    • @howclassy2148
      @howclassy2148 7 років тому +16

      mulligatawny soup i mean yeah, but many people do believe that organic farmers are animal lovers that give their animals good lives. This is totally not the case, and for people that know that it's easy to see, but to me it still seems like they're trying to paint that picture.

    • @jennyhorsburgh1078
      @jennyhorsburgh1078 7 років тому

      Yeah haha

    • @dylanbellerby5763
      @dylanbellerby5763 7 років тому +1

      Have any of you guys actually been to an intensive farm? 😂 the news only shows the worst guys!

  • @louisemcnally1178
    @louisemcnally1178 7 років тому +5

    Joey - every day I watch your videos and as I’ve seen you develop your powerful activism, advocacy and education I am constantly amazed at how you can maintain such composure, compassion and articulation during debates like this. To be able to put aside your frustration and focus on representing the innocent victims is so admirable. Change is happening. Stay strong, Joey!

  • @veg9097
    @veg9097 7 років тому +8

    This is fucking gold!!!! There is no argument against veganism!!!

    • @crazyprayingmantis5596
      @crazyprayingmantis5596 7 років тому

      Erick Erick705
      Is there an argument for veganism?
      Is it immoral to eat meat?
      Give me your best argument why

    • @NorwegianMonarchist
      @NorwegianMonarchist 7 років тому

      Vegans are monsters. They're doing exactly the same. They're killing and eating plants without their conscent. Destroying their natural habbit. Just because plants don't feel pain like animals does not give you any right to kill them and eat them

    • @crazyprayingmantis5596
      @crazyprayingmantis5596 7 років тому

      BlueMoon
      Yeah, the plants want to live.

    • @savage-vq7fg
      @savage-vq7fg 6 років тому

      BlueMoon fruits have evolved to be eaten by animals like humans so they can propogate their seeds, so they clearly "want" to be eaten, if they had the capacity to think, which they don't. Animals however, don't want to be eaten. See the difference

    • @veganforever9703
      @veganforever9703 3 роки тому

      @@NorwegianMonarchist nothing is perfect and most plants are eaten by livestock so nice try 😂😂😂

  • @socialistvegan8488
    @socialistvegan8488 7 років тому +190

    He said pleasant little abattoir as though a slaughterhouse is pleasant.

    • @kvandermeersch5753
      @kvandermeersch5753 7 років тому +16

      Yeah, he's gone into complete denial mode right there. Pleasant cute little rural family abattoir, okay buddy, Auschwitz was funny and pleasant too?

    • @kvandermeersch5753
      @kvandermeersch5753 7 років тому +6

      pleasant and abattoir don't go into the same sentence, doesn't work like that.

    • @calbertjames3095
      @calbertjames3095 7 років тому

      I prefer the abattoirs that have hardcore suffering and low ethical standards. The extra cruelty makes for extra tender and juicy meat

    • @gsolomonuk
      @gsolomonuk 7 років тому +7

      Lovely little rural abattoir, he was actually trying to romanticise it, it's like he was describing his local pub not a slaughter house...

    • @bearkinsbear8409
      @bearkinsbear8409 6 років тому +1

      A psychopath would think that. I'm not calling this farmer a psychopath but his words are not helping him.

  • @abbyhaynes540
    @abbyhaynes540 4 роки тому +4

    “Nice pleasant little abattoir” what a confusing title for a place of murder and violence..

  • @thesustainableindianjalebi5936
    @thesustainableindianjalebi5936 7 років тому +60

    High quality meat! What is it fed? Gold and silver?

    • @marvingiehl
      @marvingiehl 7 років тому +4

      hahahahhaahhah

    • @Russhopson
      @Russhopson 7 років тому +1

      Champagne & caviar 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @patriciaorlando2380
    @patriciaorlando2380 5 років тому +1

    Joey is talking sense. I have no time for farmers. Animals suffer horrific cruelty and suffering on farms and slaughter houses. I never thought that animals suffered extreme horrific cruelty ,until I saw with my own eyes. It is so heartbreaking and shocking. I am glad that these videos are been showed . People need to know what immense paiin and suffering animals go through along with the disgusting unnatural way they are forced to live , for people to buy this meat to eat.

  • @manuag3886
    @manuag3886 7 років тому +143

    Why hasn't the media spoken about earthling ed being attacked by a farmer?

    • @postraumaticbadactivist1598
      @postraumaticbadactivist1598 7 років тому +7

      rugpogjrn aug Exactly!!!

    • @manuag3886
      @manuag3886 7 років тому +25

      They are complaining about threats while Ed is literally getting attacked, lol.

    • @postraumaticbadactivist1598
      @postraumaticbadactivist1598 7 років тому +13

      rugpogjrn aug Right! Plus, there's been no evidence of their claims of threats from vegans!!

    • @EuroMIX2
      @EuroMIX2 7 років тому +5

      Because Vegans actually being physically assaulted is obviously less important than Joey and others hurting these poor people's feelings with harsh words!

    • @autumnnite1803
      @autumnnite1803 7 років тому +3

      This is something I have thought about too, farmers/slaughter houses paying people to start fights and threaten the slaughterhouse staff/farmers/butchers etc so they can run to the media and shout ''See, look at these violent vegans!"

  • @essexitagermeng5504
    @essexitagermeng5504 2 роки тому +1

    If they didn’t know they’re in the wrong, they wouldn’t become so aggressive when defending their absurd points.

  • @rawintuition
    @rawintuition 7 років тому +244

    Good job as always Joey. The absurd accusations just keep getting more and more childish and laughably inaccurate. They are desperate to paint you and other vegans in a negative light.

    • @WorldOfARandomVegan
      @WorldOfARandomVegan 7 років тому +3

      Raw Intuition Exactly.

    • @mushypork1272
      @mushypork1272 7 років тому

      the cretinism observation seemed to be accurate though

    • @krys5092
      @krys5092 7 років тому +2

      People shaming people for eating healthy and trying to be morally ethical. Christians tends to shame a lot in my experience yet they should learn something from trying to be morally ethical.

    • @CoachNuke
      @CoachNuke 7 років тому +1

      Thats how the lobby or in old times war parties framed each other: they are hurting our women, they are hurting children, they are eating humans / children / the dead / choose whatever you want... If you can't win an argument based on facts then just make up some wierd shit... thats what the lobby is doing and has been doing (though they sometimes call it studies)

    • @chuckee7979
      @chuckee7979 6 років тому

      I could spend days hanging out with a animals but can only spend a maximum of 4 hours with a human, on a good day
      Well done Joey, love your work. People are so ignorant.

  • @kerryfirehorse
    @kerryfirehorse 4 місяці тому +1

    One of the first things the farmer says ‘we have a nice little rural abattoir’. A slaughterhouse being called ‘nice’ is a most ridiculous oxymoron. How can I take anything he says seriously after that?
    Also, why do they not research their facts so they can speak the truth? A quick google will show that Joey is not the founder of the Save Movement. You already know, after the farmers first few sentences, that it’s going to be a load of ignorance & bs.

  • @Teobi1
    @Teobi1 7 років тому +51

    Farmer: "Lambs have feelings and that, but they don't have a lot of brain power"
    Female interviewer: "I don't have a lot of brain power"
    Me: ...

    • @EuroMIX2
      @EuroMIX2 7 років тому +10

      I actually think she was trying to argue for Joey's side a bit there. If enough people just decide that the female host is "of lesser brain power, therefore she deserves less rights, and it may even taken to the degree of it being justifiable to kill and eat her", that's exactly the same kind of logic for why we don't like killing and eating dogs, but we will for pigs because they are seen as "lesser", and therefore acceptable to eat.

    • @Teobi1
      @Teobi1 7 років тому +6

      Good point. But none of them could be seen to be arguing in favor of veganism because everything must be dumbed down to the level of Don't Rock The Boat. Which is why journalists and the media can only go so far before the puppet masters yank the strings.

  • @angehockenhull3057
    @angehockenhull3057 6 років тому +1

    I can’t believe the guy on the phone said it was ‘a quiet, pleasant little abattoir ‘.
    That sentence is crazy talk

  • @BahdVibeZ
    @BahdVibeZ 7 років тому +69

    JOEY JUST GETS BETTER AND BETTER WITH EVERY INTERVIEW. KEEP IT COMING, MEDIA!

    • @mulligatawnysoup9281
      @mulligatawnysoup9281 7 років тому +5

      They are hoping he´ll flip out but he is staying so calm and cool. It´s great.

    • @malloryarroy9887
      @malloryarroy9887 7 років тому +1

      Yesss Joey is the best

  • @ZachBuechler
    @ZachBuechler 7 років тому +4

    Hey Joey, new vegan here. 4 months on or so. Went vegan for the health reasons and discovered the ethics and environmental benefits later. Just wanted to say thank you for doing what you do.

  • @joshuanuss1356
    @joshuanuss1356 7 років тому +142

    Straw man after straw man from Frank....

    • @JoeyCarbstrong
      @JoeyCarbstrong  7 років тому +34

      Maybe he could cultivate some crops to help supply all of his straw man fallacies...

    • @elvegan9734
      @elvegan9734 7 років тому +2

      Love it

  • @juz5zzz
    @juz5zzz 5 років тому +5

    Respect Joey... Those questions are so inflammatory. You did a great job here!

  • @iamJuxen
    @iamJuxen 7 років тому +68

    the pigs being more intelligent arguement destroyed them, the farmer countered with "but dogs are our pets" or something like that

    • @EuroMIX2
      @EuroMIX2 7 років тому +3

      He very clearly had no adequate response to being called out on the point of moral relativism.
      He was holding on tightly to tradition and culture where "dogs are our pets and we don't eat them, because we don't and never have, but more intelligent pigs are acceptable to kill and eat because we always have". He simply can't process his own bias.

    • @catkin-z8g
      @catkin-z8g 7 років тому

      there is a video called bill mollison ranting where he actually talks about eating dogs and englishmen.

    • @bittersweet82
      @bittersweet82 7 років тому +1

      Cloo Lcoo Some people keep pigs as pets too.
      Give these slaughter houses glass walls and place them in the city so everyone can walk by and watch and still feel comfortable.
      Ignorance is bliss and some people when faced with the truth can't handle it and instead of realising what is happening is wrong, they try to defend it because it is horrible knowing you are contributing to the problem and are too weak to make a change.

  • @anonymoo8121
    @anonymoo8121 7 років тому +2

    Joey you are amazing! I don't know how you cope with these people, they drive me crazy with their ignorance. We constantly have to justify why we don't murder animals and eat meat whilst others constantly attack us with a barrage of nonsensical excuses for them murdering animals and eating meat!!! The world has gone mad. Keep it up. Wish I was as brave as you and could do something worth while like this.

  • @Tanjusch12
    @Tanjusch12 7 років тому +54

    Oh Joey. How can you be so strong? You're so patient in these difficult aggressiv Diskussion. He had so many stupid arguments. Thank you deep from the heart for fighting so hard for the animals and the vegans. If you "survive" this, i'm sure that you kick off a big change in this world. You stay strong against your haters and challengers. You're are kind of Ghandi, Mandela ... for me. A Person who believe in change and go for it, even if are so many try to stop you. I send you a big package of hope, force and courage from Germany. Big hugs and never doubt in your believes.

    • @johncoronado
      @johncoronado 7 років тому +1

      Tanjusch12 Carbs. He’s carb-strong!

  • @137mango
    @137mango 5 років тому +3

    The violence claim was absolutely RIDICULOUS. LMFAO.

  • @katieplant384
    @katieplant384 7 років тому +30

    How offensive was that farmer. Sounds like the media are scraping the barrel.

  • @Dazedandconfusedforsolong
    @Dazedandconfusedforsolong 5 років тому +1

    It's bewildering how some people view pets as having more value than any other animal. Societal conditioning can be hard to break.

  • @angelg8445
    @angelg8445 7 років тому +26

    Thank you for your contribution Joey! For them to assume that you are violent or inflammatory, when we are the ppl advocating for the opposite is totally insane. They never answer the questions about why they needlessly kill and torture these animals.

  • @sovietsofia
    @sovietsofia 6 років тому +1

    This one was really rough. The claim about using "inflammatory language" was next level projection.

  • @vegancrue13
    @vegancrue13 7 років тому +63

    This is some next level activism Joey, I am blown away by how you don’t back down! Very inspiring!

  • @xyZenTV
    @xyZenTV 7 років тому +1

    The media really messed up when they tried to pick on you. You're becoming more calm, rational, pointed, and articulate by the day, Joey. You're really maturing as an activist, and it's fucking awesome to watch! Keep it up, man!

  • @SincerelyShireen
    @SincerelyShireen 7 років тому +31

    This was one angry farmer!! He had much to get off his chest. I didn't think you were going to get a chance to say anything! I don't know how you keep your composure with these people. You do it well. ::)

  • @NELSONandWIGGLES
    @NELSONandWIGGLES Рік тому +1

    The words “nice” and “ lovely” do not belong with word “abattoir”.

  • @Baun92
    @Baun92 7 років тому +12

    "Abattoir". Another euphemism these farmers love to throw around. Call it what it is: A slaughterhouse.

  • @Gnashadelphia
    @Gnashadelphia 3 роки тому +1

    Him asking Joey to come up with an alternative of what he can farm is like somebody who runs a human trafficking ring asking for an alternative career path from somebody who is against human trafficking

  • @alfredogonzalez8735
    @alfredogonzalez8735 7 років тому +36

    Changing the god damn world man

  • @clairehill1963
    @clairehill1963 7 років тому +1

    I really don't know how you stay so calm. You made a very good point I.e. why are you always put up against farmers?
    Discussing veganism with meat farmers is a complete waste of time. I'm getting sick of hearing some of the interviewers siding with the bloody farmers. Keep up your extremely good work. You're fighting for the rights of those poor innocent animals and people will one day get that xxx

  • @Patralgan
    @Patralgan 7 років тому +34

    You've improved a lot Joey, respect for that. The arguments against you here were utterly ridiculous, even more than usually do this must have been relatively easy session

  • @mru8783
    @mru8783 7 років тому +1

    Joey - keep moving brother. The wall of ignorance is thick, keep balance. Good work.

  • @Dusk_G
    @Dusk_G 7 років тому +18

    The farmer played the victim...old trick..
    ..and The speaker condition is "cognitive distorsion".

    • @mgtowchampion7961
      @mgtowchampion7961 5 років тому

      The farmer asked a legitimate question about what vegetables he could grow instead of being involved in cattle slaughter and that vegan fuckwit avoided the question, typical moron to avoid the question.

  • @jayaz9113
    @jayaz9113 7 років тому +1

    I think it would be a huge plus if we start researching and presenting a real solution for the TRANSITION to farming plants.

  • @manuag3886
    @manuag3886 7 років тому +20

    Joey I absolutely love how you straight up call the farmers out for the fallacies they are using. These people really need to have logic shoved in their face, otherwise they aren't going to get it.

  • @AlicePriceMusic
    @AlicePriceMusic 7 років тому +2

    You ABSOLUTELY NAILED that interview!!!!!!! BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @hobbitkicker
    @hobbitkicker 7 років тому +163

    The Vegan Society UK has a Grow Green program that will help Farmers transition their farms away from animal agriculture and towards crop farming. It just has to be googled to find it.

    • @ceryseira
      @ceryseira 7 років тому +18

      Information is available everywhere, he's just forcing the responsibility on Joey and using the fact Joey hasn't prepared a specific plan for this knob of a farmer in Kent. Whoda thunk, maybe that's not his job :')

    • @hobbitkicker
      @hobbitkicker 7 років тому +9

      Littlekelt95 yeah definitely. My comment is more to the fact that the farmer didn't have to do much to answer his own question.
      That said, I think from an optics stand point it was a missed opportunity to demonstrate that there are vegan resources out there for Farmers that seriously want to change. This farmer was clearly not truly interested in that but it is a great chance for Joey to demonstrate to listeners that vegans are thinking about the farmers and here are resources x,y, and z. As much as we say we are thinking about them and understanding the threat to their livelihoods, it is just as important to show it at times like this.

    • @KENTVVVV
      @KENTVVVV 6 років тому +2

      But "pleasant little abattoir" tho... SMH

  • @ellieboswell9650
    @ellieboswell9650 6 років тому

    I will never understand why anyone would think that what he’s saying is wrong, it frustrates me so much as to why people think this is okay🙄

  • @cyclingvideoes
    @cyclingvideoes 7 років тому +48

    This is ridiculous, just got done reading a horrible article about you. And how you're actively telling farmers to kill themselves, which is utterly ridiculous! I'm so sorry this is happening to you, and I hope the record will become clear. It's disgusting these reporters misrepresent the truth so much :(
    edit: also at 6:45 I loved how you made the radio host laugh

  • @tashaax1993xanimalloverx
    @tashaax1993xanimalloverx 2 роки тому +1

    "Pleasent little abbatoir" fact he said that proves it all

  • @flaskeyboredom5942
    @flaskeyboredom5942 7 років тому +15

    Damn this was legendary. Huge smile on my face watching this. You are killing it mate.

  • @lolly5453
    @lolly5453 5 років тому +2

    Joey, you’re an absolute gem handling this in the way that you did. Having the patience and graciousness to sit through this nonsense while still managing to get your message across perfectly is immensely inspiring and the movement couldn’t have a better role model and advocate. Their claims and excuses make me cringe so I can’t imagine how frustrated you must get sometimes in these situation.
    Massive respect to you mate! Xx ✌🏼😘💚

  • @avadhuta93
    @avadhuta93 7 років тому +15

    How many times does he call that slaughterhouse "nice" and even "pleasant"? Yeah, I'm sure that the animals are loving it. 5 star ratings all over animal trust pilot.

    • @avadhuta93
      @avadhuta93 7 років тому

      Elaine AteOate I too went vegan 'on the spot' after watching some footage from the industry. I reverted back to vegetarianism before going 100% vegan in the end, due to the fact that I had no idea what I was getting myself into. I just knew upon seeing their suffering, that that was something I could never close my eyes to again, and that I did not want to participate in any further.

  • @lecameleondeslangues3006
    @lecameleondeslangues3006 6 років тому +3

    You did an amazing job Joey, this farmer's claims and words made me laugh more than once by their stupidity and total lack of logic, and many vegans would have lost their cool, but you knew how to answer in a clever way. Thank you for all you're doing, With your job and your videos, I keep learning how to talk to omnivores. I actually had my first Anonymous activism yesterday and felt amazing for this, and your job is helping me improve my own activism. Keep up with this amazing job you're doing every day!!

  • @arnold-hu4vk
    @arnold-hu4vk 7 років тому +20

    poor Frank, didn't have a clue

  • @nozlrecordingsuk
    @nozlrecordingsuk 6 років тому +1

    Top work, Joey. The reasons given by some of these people is mind boggling.

  • @seanogorman3617
    @seanogorman3617 7 років тому +9

    BOOOM!!!! You could not have handled that better Joey. Absolute brilliant voice for the animals !!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @christofmorphius6719
    @christofmorphius6719 5 років тому +1

    People will say anything to justify their bad habit. The question you have to ask them is if you had 100% knowledge of animal products being bad for you, the environment and the animals would you stop exploiting animals? If they say no then conversation is over and they are bias

  • @ma_sabella00
    @ma_sabella00 7 років тому +28

    You are amazing Joey! We honestly need you in Germany... veganism isn't that big of a topic in the mainstream media yet unfortunately...

    • @jennyhorsburgh1078
      @jennyhorsburgh1078 7 років тому

      Ma_Saby16 he doesn't speak German. Atleast I don't think..

    • @ma_sabella00
      @ma_sabella00 7 років тому +1

      yeah but english is an international language so that would be no problem

    • @catkin-z8g
      @catkin-z8g 7 років тому

      there is some good music and activism. like check out Morgaine & Kilez More: Alles bleibt gleich. she actually made me vegan. her new video STERNENKINDER is pretty amazing even if you don't understand german. it has the lyric "love is the strongest force"

    • @dantezefanyaaryasulang9642
      @dantezefanyaaryasulang9642 3 роки тому

      Keep it that way pls

    • @dantezefanyaaryasulang9642
      @dantezefanyaaryasulang9642 3 роки тому

      Don't spread it to Germany for gods sake

  • @1shakasean
    @1shakasean 7 років тому +1

    I can see and hear that you are getting better and better at these interviews. You are handling their responses like a champ like when I see you talk to people on the street. Great great job always making improvements. Thank you

  • @lauralasker8415
    @lauralasker8415 7 років тому +54

    Boom! What a come back Joey! “ by your logic we should lower dogs in stead of pigs into gas chambers as their less intelligent then pigs.”
    Awesome debate 👊🏻💚🙌🏻

  • @paulaslife3781
    @paulaslife3781 7 років тому +3

    Awww look at joey sat there alone, trying to do the right thing for every living being, including us.. 👏👏👏👏 GO JOEY Much love from all of
    Us....

  • @lamontrealaise8524
    @lamontrealaise8524 7 років тому +4

    "Nice, pleasant little abattoir". Who are you fucking kidding? It's a house of slaughter, ain't nothing pleasant about it?!

  • @non-applicable.
    @non-applicable. 7 років тому +1

    I have to say Joey, I so admire your impatience. This was infuriating beyond belief! I don't know how you do it. Wow.
    I'm so glad to see you getting invited to radio and tv shows. Go Joey!

  • @tamannaverma6967
    @tamannaverma6967 7 років тому +19

    They all was just trying to bring down the vegan.

  • @conradvanderwesthuizen90
    @conradvanderwesthuizen90 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you for all you activism Joey. You really handled that situation well. I hope the seed got planted in the farmer’s head. 🤞🏼

  • @mightydook
    @mightydook 7 років тому +16

    Great work!!!👍🏽
    Same old tired rationalizations while grasping at thin air

  • @user89076
    @user89076 6 років тому +3

    I love how the farmer gets backed into a corner and frantically grasps at straws, no matter how illogical it sounds.
    "Uh wha wha wha but, w-w-we we shouldn't eat dogs cause we don't eat dogs in this country and never will!"
    Yeah, solid argument haha.

  • @plantplanetearth509
    @plantplanetearth509 7 років тому +46

    Oh wow! This had me on the edge the whole interview!
    Animal slaughterer - 0
    Joey Carbstrong - 7

    • @jennyhorsburgh1078
      @jennyhorsburgh1078 7 років тому +2

      Smallville Boyd joey Carbstrong: 45678987654321

    • @cherylbush507
      @cherylbush507 7 років тому

      ...lotta love and peace I see in those numbers there RVTNOCA.

    • @huntsmangamertv1007
      @huntsmangamertv1007 5 років тому +1

      Farmer- 1000 roasts
      Joey carb(not so)strong- 0

    • @dantezefanyaaryasulang9642
      @dantezefanyaaryasulang9642 3 роки тому

      So the farmer is better because it's -0 And Joey got -7

    • @veganforever9703
      @veganforever9703 3 роки тому

      @@huntsmangamertv1007 the farmer is an idiot and lost all respect saying a nice abritour 🤣

  • @vanessastojko1628
    @vanessastojko1628 7 років тому +4

    Thank you so much for all that you do! It’s obvious they’re trying to get to you and discredit you in all the ways possible. I’m so sorry. Hold on, we got you ❤️

  • @schmidcl77
    @schmidcl77 7 років тому +13

    I can’t believe educated people can’t see the unlogic arguments of eating meat 😣

    • @mgtowchampion7961
      @mgtowchampion7961 5 років тому

      Unlogical ? Humans are omnivores you fuckwit.

    • @therockingvolbeat3630
      @therockingvolbeat3630 4 роки тому

      @@mgtowchampion7961 hamsters are omnivores, you don't see them eating cows.
      Like other apes we are mainly frugivores that can also eat insects. Just because we can eat meat doesn't mean we are ment to. Science backs up that up that eating meat is bad for us while a plant based diet is the healthiest diet we can be on

    • @mgtowchampion7961
      @mgtowchampion7961 4 роки тому

      @@therockingvolbeat3630 history books do not agree

    • @therockingvolbeat3630
      @therockingvolbeat3630 4 роки тому +1

      @@mgtowchampion7961 i think I'll stick with science over history

    • @mgtowchampion7961
      @mgtowchampion7961 4 роки тому

      @@therockingvolbeat3630 so the book i got the information from is not accurate then ?

  • @amandarin5927
    @amandarin5927 7 років тому +1

    Amazing work again Joey - they had no justification or answers to your comments, points and truth bombs - thankyou for your resilience and amazing action ❤🌱✊

  • @themilitantvegan2515
    @themilitantvegan2515 7 років тому +125

    Vegan💪✌❤

  • @qualifiedidiots2165
    @qualifiedidiots2165 4 роки тому +2

    The thing about these interviews.
    It’s never a Vegan Vs Farmer.
    It’s Vegan Vs Farmer AND the interviewers.

  • @bananawarriorprincess5679
    @bananawarriorprincess5679 7 років тому +13

    What's the moral difference between a dog and a lamb? Responds with something along the lines of 'Well we don't raise dogs for meat in this country'. Well we don't mutilate female genitalia in adolescence in my country, does that mean it's ok to subject girls to mutilation in other countries because 'culture tho!' The farmer is a complete dork!

    • @bananawarriorprincess5679
      @bananawarriorprincess5679 7 років тому

      TheFettuck are you a plant rights activist or just trolling?

    • @bananawarriorprincess5679
      @bananawarriorprincess5679 7 років тому

      TheFettuck sperm and bacteria rights now!

    • @bananawarriorprincess5679
      @bananawarriorprincess5679 7 років тому

      shoe laces extremely retarded counter argument if you’re saying that rodents die in crop harvesting. Murdering animals for food vs accidental rodent deaths during crop harvesting are categorically separated by intent and non intent. We unintentionally kill humans by driving cars, but we accept this, so why wouldn’t we accept rodent deaths for food production which is even more important than transportation?

    • @cynicalidealist11
      @cynicalidealist11 7 років тому

      Yes, it is unintentional and accidental because it doesn't necessarily need to happen and we can find improvements to minimize it as much as possible, which is what veganism is about, i.e, reducing suffering as much as practically possible, not eliminating it altogether as that is not possible. Such a silly argument.

  • @raphaelm6149
    @raphaelm6149 5 років тому +1

    I’ve never once told anyone I was Vegan unless they asked ! I hate these cheap assumptions!

    • @redpillpusher
      @redpillpusher 5 років тому +1

      right ...I'm pretty old (won't say how old ;) and I live in california where you'll have a good chance of running into vegans and I never once had a vegan impose their beliefs or volunteer their vegan status without being asked. not once.

  • @kevinsherry1581
    @kevinsherry1581 5 років тому +1

    I know this video is at least a year old but have to say kudos to Joey for making such a constructive argument on behalf of animals. That Farmer was firmly put in his place.. making up points at the end to try validate his business model was pretty pathetic.

  • @KayleighExOh
    @KayleighExOh 7 років тому +14

    The amount of times my eyes rolled while watching this 🙄 lol well done Joey

  • @tommyj7766
    @tommyj7766 3 роки тому +2

    It’s hard to get through to these individuals as they don’t want to hear the truth. Keep up the good work Joey 👏🏻👏🏻🌱

  • @amybosworth1207
    @amybosworth1207 7 років тому +6

    Perfect responses. Thanks for all you do, videos like these keep me going on bad days

  • @borndante7254
    @borndante7254 7 років тому +3

    The thing I like about veganism is that you can easily take apart anyone's argument.

  • @harpreetkbhullar1141
    @harpreetkbhullar1141 7 років тому +9

    We love you Joey 💕. Thank you for being an amazing rolemodel ❤.

  • @kerryfirehorse
    @kerryfirehorse 4 місяці тому +1

    Ugh, the farmers and perpetrators of the violence go straight into victim mode. The animals are the victims here. Make your money in another ethical way.

  • @Juhiss93
    @Juhiss93 7 років тому +19

    This discussion in a nutshell... Vegans use mean words buhuu.. 😢 also lets ignore everything he says.

  • @GigglyardoYT
    @GigglyardoYT 5 років тому +5

    "what's the moral difference between a dog and a pig?"
    "WE DON'T EAT DOGS IN THIS COUNTRY"

    • @shotcrib77v56
      @shotcrib77v56 5 років тому

      Y

    • @Miko-rz3ju
      @Miko-rz3ju 5 років тому

      It is true they say cows have no choice but they force their children to eat vegan

    • @thatveganmuslim
      @thatveganmuslim 4 роки тому

      And you force your children to eat dead corpses the hypocrisy is real

  • @EmilyLynne1993
    @EmilyLynne1993 7 років тому +42

    I just became a Patreon for you Joey! YOU'RE ON FIRE! :)

    • @eggnogs
      @eggnogs 5 років тому +1

      Wow you are easily impressed!

    • @MetalizedButt
      @MetalizedButt 3 роки тому +1

      Congratulations on donating your hard earned money to a phony. You are so gullible and easily cheated.

    • @patbarr8715
      @patbarr8715 3 роки тому

      Me too !!!!

  • @victoriasalter1701
    @victoriasalter1701 4 роки тому +1

    It’s not a “pleasant little abattoir”. He might have well have said “pleasant little animal death camp”.

  • @BruneauJasmine
    @BruneauJasmine 7 років тому +26

    Cretinism though...

    • @TheRoarWithin
      @TheRoarWithin 7 років тому

      Jasmine Bruneau 😂

    • @antivegansaveapigletvegans6210
      @antivegansaveapigletvegans6210 7 років тому

      intelligence tho actually dogs are pets tho

    • @jennyhorsburgh1078
      @jennyhorsburgh1078 7 років тому +1

      What does that mean...sorry I'm 15 and not good at English haha

    • @Tzara86
      @Tzara86 7 років тому +1

      RandomVideosThatNoOneCares About he tried to say vegans lack iodine and have developed cretinism which is a cognitive impairment from lack of iodine. However it's a terrible argument considering some of the highest sources of iodine come from plants, specifically sea plants like Kelp