Im quite happy that Hoyo is now more relaxed in the Archon quest. They realized that they dont need to contain it to 3 acts so the characters have more screentime to show their real personalities
I love how we all thought Neuvillette was gonna be a cold and serious person like Alhaitham, but he's actually a really nice guy who's willing to help us if he could. The VA really delivered, both EN and JP. Instant must pull.
Ray Chase, the en va for Neuvillette said on twitter that he requested to rerecord all the previous voicelines after recording the last scene where Neuv visits Navia's father because he understand Neuvillette now, thats why Neuvillette is different from the game and the trailer
@@udavol5Which is hilarious because since he doesn't understand human emotions, the seemingly cold indifference of his not understanding the character actually fits perfectly in character.
2:39:50 That's... a translation issue In the original, what Paimon meant was "We based our reasoning on the assumption that you weren't the culprit", implying that at this point, since Paimon and the traveler don't have the full picture because of Lyney's lies, they can't say for certain that he's not the culprit. There are no good way to translate the phrasing of the chinese sentence in english though
I honestly applaud Hoyo for putting such dark themes into the main story. What (almost?) Happened to Lynette is really messed up the more you think about it.
@blad3thompson Nah, Fischl would hate her. She would see Furina as a kindred spirit initially until she realizes that Furina is all flash and no substance. While Fischl is all about the performance, even she knows where to draw the line. The difference between Furina and Fischl is that Furina is just Furina (as far as we know at the moment), but Fischl has Amy actually in the driver seat. And Amy would look at Furina's flaunting of murders and kidnappings with disgust. Also, Oz would also be uncomfortable with how Furina acts. Oz take great pains to reign Fischl in to make sure she never goes that far. To see someone actually go that far might cause Oz to snap. Not to mention, it's possible Amy would see the part of herself that she likes the least in Furina, you know, the whole, "EVERYONE LOOK AT ME! I'M THE CENTER OF ATTENTION!" I, honestly, don't think Fischl would like seeing that because it would be like looking into a mirror, but taken to the extreme. Honestly? Given what we know about Fischl/Amy, I think she would be disgusted, not only at Furina, but at all the people of Fontaine for their perversion of The Theater and Storytelling. If it's one thing Fischl/Amy would not be okay with it's taking someone else's pain and putting it on full display for the world, glorifying it. And that is exactly how Fontaine treats Court Trials and the True Stories they represent. She would also be disgusted at how the people of Fontaine don't think for themselves and blindly believe the rulings of The Oratrice. In fact, I believe the people of Sumeru would feel the exact same way since they JUST went through the same thing. Oh God... Nilou would be completely mortified if she saw how the people of Fontaine treat The Theater.
I love how Neuvillette is such a chill and soft spoken guy (besides the necessary authority when presiding, of course) but he is clearly so beyond done with Furina's antics. Usually not a guy character puller, but he's great. Such class, and just odd enough to be strangely endearing. Zhongli 2 is a success.
Even though they have similar personality, I think Neuvillette and Zhongli are still very different. It's a shame that some people call Neuvillette Hydro Zhongli, but that was expected lol
I don't think he is simply done with furina persay. From what we saw, he just knows very well how to deal with her different personas/antics. Like when furina becomes serious in the second act, he is also open to hear more from her. Other people like navia thinks she was ashamed of the previous case, which was why she suddenly mellow down, but Neuvillette told us that Furina is very serious when it comes to the prophecy and that's the reason her attitude in the first versus second acts are so different. Unfortunately though I dont think even Neuvillette believes in Furina. I remember when Nahida came out and there was a line he said about her which was something like "at least she (Nahida) cares about her people" which indirectly means he believes Furina does not care. It's certain that he doesn't like her, but I also don't think he hates her that much.
One of the first insights we get into Furina's character is a letter written by Neuvillette talking about how much of a brat she is. He is SO done with her
The Archon quest at Fontaine can be said to be quite interesting, it makes me feel like I am reading a detective book with a combination of drama genre.
THIS ACT WAS MAGNIFIQUE the characters the music the pace the VA's and the mystery it's really perfect this is my first new zone when I'm here cause I started during 3.2. I just wanted to say until now this baguette Fontaine is so good
The character designs are absolutely flawless. The voice actors all KILLED it for their roles, especially Focalors, it's phenomenal. I'm so sad I lost my Lyney 50/50 and I hope to get him on rerun :') Fontaine is surpassing all expectations
@@connormarshall1272 Im grabbing some of this luck, thank you (lost 10 50/50s in a row including lyney) Im still trying for him though hopefully fontaine gives me enough wishes to make up for it :D
Regarding the whole Lyney and Lynette vs traveler thing, I think the issue the traveler could’ve had is that they’re putting themselves on the line for both twins and could potentially risk their travels and reputation, they didn’t know they were members of the Fatui and that could’ve potentially harm their travel through Teyvat. Plus the fact that traveler has had more bonding with Childe and has seen that apart from being a harbinger, he does have a more human side to hi while taking care of Teucer, and the fact that they know Childe would potentially protect them against most enemies apart from himself and maybe the Tsaritsa. So to me, it’s more so the fact that they both lied about their involvement with the Fatui and House of the Hearth because they are potentially risking a huge loss and a huge Red Cross on their record
I would also assume that the traveler behave that way against Lyney and Lynette once he finds out about their allegiance due to the altercation with that fake shrine maiden back in Inazuma back then (that hidden Inazuma quest) which revealed The Knave (Arlecchino) and the House of the Hearth modus operandi
even if they aren't fatui the fact that they lied about what they did inside the tunnel is enough to wash away any trust. as an introvert, if I publicly speak for them but they change what they meant to say midway I would be pissed too....and very embarrassed.
The thing I will say about Bran trying to be "look at the Fatui saving Fontaine, how nice", keep in mind that A.) Fontaine's story is about deception and layers of layers of lies. Yes, Arlecchino and the House of Hearth might be looking to help Fontaine, but there is also more to it. Especially how they are doing things undercover and not directly collaborating with Focalors to save Fontaine. B.) Also we have Scaramouche and Childe's Warnings regarding to not trust Arlecchino. She's a very fascinating and gray character. She saves orphans, but also trains them to become loyal child soldiers of the Fatui. Many have disappeared and while some voicelines don't suggest she's abusive or cruel to the children, but still harsh towards them to build them as soliders .She is caring towards the orphans, but described as violent, a psycho and a wolf in sheep's clothing, willing to betray people at the drop of a hat. Her title is literally the "Knave", an untrustworthy person. This is me saying that don't think the Fatui are all good or all bad, but gray and this story is so HELLA COOL. I'm very excited to meet Arlecchino herself since everything we heard is from other people and not from her herself yet Also Bran please stop getting hung up about Lynette's disappearance, that was an actual magic trick compared to the actual dissolving
Let's also not forget that Arlecchino doesn't only "take in" orphans. She, literally, tried to to kidnap non-orphan children from Vimara Village in Sumeru. Also, Lyney says that Arlecchino told him the House of Hearth's mission is to save Fontaine and its people. However, we don't know that to be true. I find it mighty convenient that a super rich person bought Lynette from their previous owner, which ended up luring Lyney to the same location, only to have Arlecchino arrive on site and kill said rich person. Let us not forget the richest people in Teyvat are the Fatui (although Dori might disagree). It's entirely possible that Lyney and Lynette's "adoption" by the rich guy to the "purchase" of Lynette by another rich guy was all an elaborate ruse of misdirection for Arlecchino to get Lyney and Lynette to join her willingly. I submit that, at least, the guy that "purchased" Lynette was, in fact, a Fatuus and willingly gave his life "For The Tsaritsa." I also submit that the true reason Arrlechino is having Lyney and Lynette look into the Oratrice is because she believes that the Hydro Gnosis is what is powering it, just like how the Dendro Gnosis powered The Akasha System in Sumeru. I also get the feeling she's way off base.
On your take on the Fatui and Childe, I think you seem to be seeing the forest by the trees, but missing the mountain on which the forest resides. In nearly every instance of our dealings with the Fatui, they've been antagonistic at best. We've nearly been killed by their members at least a handful of times. Childe is the outlier, and it even took in-game months for the Traveler to have at least a neutral stance on him. Note that even in the case you raise during the questline start, neither Paimon nor the Traveler refer to him as their friend, they just don't refute him, since, he's done this quite a bit with no hints of stopping, even when we protested against it. There's a very good reason Lyney and Lynette would assume we're automatically slated against them. The Fatui have a bad rep in pretty much every single country we've visited so far. Not to mention, the Traveler's relationship with them MUST be well known by now. We have a pretty good history of, even publicly, not being on good terms with them. It makes sense that those in the Fatui would know of the Traveler and his relationship with the organization. Childe is an extreme exception of us having at worst a neutral relationship with a SINGLE member of the organization. Just because we can be friendly with Childe, doesn't mean the Traveler or Paimon will likely instantly trust another member of the organization. In fact, it's probably because of Childe why we don't just instantly abandon Lyney to his projected fate. Edit: Expanding on your "gray" commentary, it really doesn't matter if the Fatui is good or evil when they're being antagonistic towards us. They could be the best people in the world, but they've done quite a bit of harm to the Traveler and those he likes. To us, an outsider looking in, that's just par the course for an interesting villain-like organization. To the Traveler, that's all that matters.
not only Furina's personallity is different from the other archons (being far more childish and incompetent), this is also the first time we saw the Archon on the get go. Quiet a fresh air if you asked me, after 4 times searching for the Archon's attention
As nahida said " She still reserves the right to influence the final verdict" This statement alone strike me hard with regards to the machine, Is furina + the machine = Hydro Arhon?
@@sarahimran946 That's an interesting theory there. Perhaps? I feel there is still a lot that is left unknown about Furina, Fontaine and honestly just about everything here, but im eager to find out.
Maybe it has like remnant of consciousness of the former hydro archon?(like similar to makato and rukkedevata) and I was wondering since it rains whenever there are trials, it might have to do with the oratrice, maybe she gets sad judging people thats why she cries and thats why it rains, maybe the voice in the fountain is her too. Or maybe it is furina idk anyway I am excited for future archon quests ^^
For me, the difference with the twins lying is because if im remembering correctly, childe told us when we first met him that he was a harbinger while they didn’t. i get the trouble with bringing it up but it makes them look bad and untrustworthy, because in the traveller and paimons, eyes the fatui are the villains (childe is a weird exception, i’m assuming his story quest is canon?). after signora, scara before he was erased, and the doctor, the traveller and paimon won’t view them as the good guys
Yknow what's weird...? I unironically feel like Sumeru is home. Like if I go back to Sumeru, I'll probably never leave. Had to actively remind myself "YO FONTAINE COME ON DUDE" haha Viva La Sumeru I guess.
i feel like it's 'cause in sumeru we've connected to the characters a lot more than in other archon quests we've also spend an ungodly amount of time there with these 5 hour quests lmao
imo Sumeru is where the traveller isn't just a hero but everyone's friend. Not counting Nahida we're also friends with the Eremites, Scholars, Mahamatra, Forest Rangers, the people in the Bazaar, and most importantly the Aranara. Hell we're on friendly terms with the guy who tried who take all of those away from us.
I absolutely loved this quest. It had everything, the mystery, the suspense, the drama and everything. This was the first time I felt that an archon quest in Genshin became dark. For me this quest is equal to the Sumeru archon quests, really love both!
To be honest the Traveler and Childe aren't really friends, ever since they first met him the Traveler never really trusted him and even now they don't entirely trust him either. The best way to describe the Traveler's relationship with Childe would be: mutual respect. They fought together and respect each other as warriors not to mention that enough time and story quests have passed that the Traveler understands who Childe is as a person. In a way Childe is one of the most trustworthy Fatui members since he's pretty open about what he's really interested in and the Traveler knows that and can trust him now to a certain point but still sees him as an enemy. Lyney and Lynette aren't the same as Childe, by this point the Traveler has witnessed a LOT of bad things the Fatui have done and has been personally tricked and betrayed multiple times by members of the Fatui so it's no surprise that they reacted so negatively towards them when they found out. The Traveler was at least nice enough to help prove them innocent before ditching them.
I think it's simple as what Childe said after we fought its not personal. And now after Fontaine we have true confirmation that all of the Fatui have there own agenda and style. Edit I agree lol
That’s what I was thinking. They’re not super friendly with Childe and the traveler definitely don’t fully trust him. He’s just the one the traveler knows the most and his intentions are pretty clear. Aside from Childe the rest of the fatui have just been cruel and rude from the get go and even Childe was pretty bad at the beginning so I’m not at all surprised Paimon doesn’t really like them and considers them the bad guys. Even when they have good intentions they usually go about it in horrible ways.
The fact that Bran apparently somehow doesn't see how the fatui, ya know, literal terrorists (Childe in Liyue) who hurt people indiscriminately and have a group where they turn orphans into child soldiers, are the bad guys, is incredibly confuaing.
I think Bran as so your right still but for others to be fair may have not done all the side content meaning some did not know anything about the house of hearth and child soldiers. 2nd I mean the game makes you forget considering your so buddy buddy with Childe lol. Edit: also it's has Lyney said all the Fatui harbingers have different goals and to most of them there just doing there job for a noble cause which could be true who knows.
@@exdeathex3949 yea but the traveler doesn't wanna fight, as I'm pretty sure said Childe is a friend the game pushes it both ways at times the traveler is really chill others not. Plus I can't say this with 100 percent accuracy but I belive it was stated that if you can have the character in your party they and the traveler are either friends or chill enough to go on adventures together. But take this and ignore it cause I can't back it up but I swear I heard/read it somewhere.
I think the point kind of is that there is no one good and bad sides as all sides have done messed up things. I don't think Bran was arguing that the fatui aren't bad but just that there is a grey area there too and not all who are fatui are bad or do so with bad intentions.
I’m watching this months after I finished the archon quests- I didn’t realise how much foreshadowing/foreboding there is at the start.. the hints of what is to happen- I have watched this video on and off again so I can’t remember all of them but I remember how the music when going into Fontaine city is the same as when focalors does her final dance- like a marker to the start and the end of their journey, and how someone’s theory at the start when receiving the magic pocket was that the people from Fontaine all really came from the waters/lived there. (Like they did as oceanids) that’s only a couple out of the many I’ve picked up on so far but wow genshin is amazing (also I just the noticed hydro dragon hydro dragon don’t cry! Which is also said by focalors to neuvillette when she’s about to die)
When I heard that Fontaine is a nation of justice, I always request a murder mystery quest on surveys and hoyo delivered. Rlly, this is such an amazing archon quest!
Go to the fountain of Lucine, stand in its waters, and listen closely. You can hear Furina crying miserably. Apparently she’s suffering from ungodly loneliness and feels that she’s on a time crunch.
@@dyproxus1806 well tbf, it's probably her torn between caring about her people and her narcissistic personality. Narcissists usually care a lot about people but have trouble showing it. On top of that, she definitely seems like the type that wants to actually appear as a god in front of her people vs say Nahida who doesn't care much for reminding people that she's a god
If you look at Neuvillette from front, you'll notice that his design resembles the scales. I don't know if it is an obvious part of his design, but if you haven't noticed it yet, try looking at his shoulders and how he has this straight line from one shoulder to the other and this tear-shaped (or rather a triangle-shaped) piece of fabric hanging from each shoulder. I really like how they somewhat subtly incorporated that into his clothes, while making it fit the rest of his flowy outfit.
I loved this Archon quest. What a different twist on things - solving a case!! Bran - you did pronounce Neuvilette and Freminet really well, being French myself, I guarantee it. I'm not sure why Lyney's va added an R in his name because tjere isn't one. Chat was wrong about the T in Freminet. We would pronounce the T only if it was followed with an E. Anyway.....have a wonderful time away 😀
French is my 2nd lang (somewhat fluent) and the place called poisson made me die laughing like they really just named a town in the french hydro nation "fish" 😂
I feel like almost everyone forgot to start the quest and just went straight ahead to Fontaine 😂. I usually will start the quest first then I'll explore a bit before continuing the quest. I guess being in the desert for too long have made everyone dehydrated 😂.
2:41:57 Anton, Katarina, and Nikolay of the Fatui's 9th company did nothing wrong. They genuinely believe they were there to help the people of Liyue fighting against the forces of evil in the chasm.
True but they also don't represent the overall goals and objectives of the Fatui. The Fatui as a whole certainly aren't in a gray area like Bran suggested. They more often than not are in the black in order to achieve their goals, righteous or otherwise. The Chasm Fatui NPC's showed a lot more humanity to them but also in some respects a disturbing devotion to the Tsaritsa. The Fatui are the bad guys for the most part since they facilitate a lot of the turmoil that happens, sometimes on the same level as the Abyss. There's obviously more to them but as of now, they are the bad guys regardless of their reasoning
The Fatui aren't a "grey" organization, they've done a lot of bad things as we've discovered throughout different events, they have a LOT of side projects going on behind the scenes. In Mondstat they may have not been responsible for the Storm Terror incident but they did physically assault Venti and the Traveler in front of a church and left, in Liyue they almost drowned the ENTIRETY of Liyue and its citizens by releasing an ancient sea god, in Inazuma they essentially helped cause a civil war since if memory serves the vision hunt decree was their idea and in Sumeru they essentially trapped people inside a dream world to help fuel their false god creation plan and brainwashed innocent civilians just to screw with the Traveler. There is probably all sorts of things I can't remember at the moment that the Fatui have done that just help drive the point home that the Fatui are generally not good people, and smaller members of the Fatue like the grunts that got stuck in the Chasm were just left behind and forgotten.
@@HectorCotto97 "they almost drowned the ENTIRETY of Liyue and its citizens by releasing an ancient sea god" To be fair, Childe did that as a last ditch effort to force Morax to step out of the shadows, because he was banking on the idea that Morax wouldn't just let Osial destroy Liyue. Don't get me wrong, still a terrible and dangerous thing to do, and I doubt he would have cared too much if it had gone wrong, but they never actually wanted to destroy Liyue. As for Sumeru. Dottore has his own fun. None of that was actually part of the Fatui's official plan, Dottore just likes to "experiment." He was sent there purely to get the gnoses. But like how the Tsaritsa has apparently allowed Arlecchino the opportunity to use the hydro gnosis before she hands it over, they probably didn't care all that much about what he did with them first.
@hectorcotto97 gray people means exactly do bad things for a greater good and they want to change the world for obtain a better one and want to stop the abyss order to destroy the word in this sense many fatui are gray not everyone( example dottore) but a great part of them think so
I’m absolutely loving the characters of Fontaine! I personally think Lyne has good intentions but Arrlechino doesn’t. My guess is the Hydro Gnosis is what powers the Oraclase and that’s why Lyne is told to investigate it.
I feel like the fan base has a huge misconception on how the Traveler treats Childe. From the start we knew he was Fatui and was aware of his intent for us before reaching the Golden House, so it’s not surprising when he attacks us. After that, we only keep things civil with him because there’s always someone around who’d get caught in the crossfire as well as the fact that Childe gives us information. First there was Tucser, then we were protecting Xinyan, and after that there was Yoimiya; who we even told to be careful as well as inform her about his identity and that he’s banned in Inazuma. The Traveler has never actively tried to spend time with this man for fun.
My personal headcanon is that traveler is just a selfish radical centrist without any ideological beliefs or moral compass, who doesn't care about whether the people he associates with are autocratic dictators or rebel leaders or tried to commit a genocide or whatever else they do and stand for, as long as they treat the traveler nicely and friendly, they can be friends. But if the traveler personally or one of his friends gets treated poorly by someone, that person will receive all the vengeance and regret the day they crossed the traveler.
even if the twin aren't fatui as a lawyer that publicly represent them I too would be pissed that they didn't tell me about going into the basement via vent.
@@ProfessionalPizza7yeah I felt the same. I’m not against Childe appearing in events or what not but they do need to be careful how Traveler and Paimon sees him. A bit biased since I love Signora but the hostility towards her was more palpable compared to Childe. Obviously considering both have done them quite wrong
To be fair to the twins, when exactly were they expected to bring up them being Fatui members when they were hanging out prior to this situation, also in what world would someone being accused of a crime they didn't do, openly admit to being part of a criminal organization to people they're trying to prove that they're not bad guys to? It's a very complicated thing to have to admit when it has nothing to do with the case at the time. Furina bringing up them being Fatui was a very dirty trick, as it was clearly meant to drive a wedge between the twins and the traveller and completely sully the audience's view of them when it had nothing to do with the case.
This archon was insane! I know there’s a lot of different opinions on Furina, but honestly I LOVE her, she’s like if Fischel was mixed with a bigger god complex and I’m here for it. The VA did an incredible job, her laugh gets me every time😂
BRAN I CANT TELL YOU HOW LONG IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOUR PLAYTHROUGH OF THE FONTAINE ARCHON QUESTS 🤣🤣🤣 IVE LITERALLY BEEN AVOIDING YOUR SHORTS JUST BC I WANTED TO WATCH YOU EXPERIENCE EVERYTHING IN FULL
what Bran said about the traveler not trusting Lyney and Lynette: "We've trusted people for less in the past" I think that's why the traveler is so reluctant to trust them. It's because he has trusted many people in the past that turned out to be evil that now he doesn't want to trust the twins so easily.
"We based our reasoning on the assumption that you weren't the bad guy." "Bad guy" being the culprit, not Fatui. Traveller and Paimon are mad because Lyney lied that he was on the box the entire time and we based our reasoning on that scenario. Being a Fatui has very little contribution to it.
I find it so funny how Paimon treats/behaves around Neuvilette and Furina this time. Reminds me so much of how she did that with Diluc and Venti Also imagine if we could have gotten the chance to talk with Furina when she first appeared, could have been the shortest archon quest ever. Hm not the god that took my sister...so have you seen her? No? Okay time to go to the next region then
A pity that the editor took away the moment when Bran says "Oh no" around 1:22:36. When he streamed that part on Twitch, it sounded like he had done a huge mistake by pronouncing Neuvillette's name wrong. You could hear it in his voice when he said that.
Furina is absolutely my favorite character of Fontaine so far (though everyone has been great imo, especially Neuvelitte) and I'm excited to see what twists lie in store regarding her.
Lyney is constantly hyping up Arrlechino to us, but he has hero worship from her saving Lynette and pretty much admitted that he’s being groomed to be her successor, of course she focuses on making sure he has a favorable impression. Freminet, by contrast, gives off the vibe of an abuse victim, and just about every NPC raised in the House of Hearth reads as HEAVILY traumatized. As far as her morality, it basically comes down to “Lyney and Lynette vs literally everyone else.” Saving Lynette was unambiguously good, but she followed it up by compelling them to kill. Little bit hypocritical there. That said, I don’t think Arrlechino is evil, and I DO think she’s genuinely trying to save Fontaine. I just think she’s a shit parent and shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near children. In this light, Childe and Hat Guy hating her fits with their own established characters: Ajax loves his family, especially his kid siblings, and the thought that Arrlechino could turn them into something like him is probably his worst nightmare. The Wanderer has deep-seated childhood trauma involving the perceived betrayal of caretakers AND being twisted and manipulated by a harbinger who only saw him as a tool. Arrlechino raising child soldiers probably hammers their “trauma buttons” like there’s no tomorrow.
Dude if I was Wanderer I would HATE Arrlechino. Yes, saving Lynette was a good thing to do, but is it really that good if her motive was to groom orphans in a different way? Like at least with Childe, I would believe him saving her would be (more, but still with a double motive) out of the goodness of his heart, due to showing actual human compassion and love for his siblings. Part of the reason the Traveler is right to not trust them is that even when they old affection for him, they’ve been groomed and brainwashed into being pet child soldiers for Arleccino. Even when Lyney says that he will interact with us as “just plain Lyney,” this cannot possibly be the case, as their loyalties will, out of habit and conditioning, always lie blindly with Arleccino who they consider their savior. It’s very sad :(
29:30 "But when there are valid grounds, I will not only judge travellers from abroad, but even the Gods of other lands." That was a big hint about Focalors plan that even Neuvillette missed.
With more budget comes better and better writing and storytelling. Fontaine Archon quest (so far) is the best one to date for me. I'm very excited for the next acts!
the gameplay in this archon quest was clearly inspired by hoyo's other game, tears of themis! even the bg music during the investigation sounds kinda similar haha
Did you know that you can hear how Focalors 's crying if you stand into the lusin fountain and turn off all effects except voice volume in the settings?
Loved the act1 archon quest, best quest ever in my opinion. Dainsleif quests are tied with them tho. Fontaine is my favorite now due to all the little pockets of land underneath the waters that hold ships and mysterious alien creatures and mysterious objects.
I think this is my 2nd fave quest behind the sumeru finale with the nahida dottore confrontation purely cus of the lore drops. But the gameplay in this was the best in an aq so far
I really need to touch some grass because the first time the thief came up I instantly knew she was from Mondstadt because of her hairstyle (at current really only female Mondstadt NPS have the double bun hairstyle) and when you can start telling the NPCs apart you know you've spent too much time in the game 😂
I do understand that it is grey when it comes to the fatui, but again the traveler lost a fighting companion in inazuma almost lost another in sumeru due to their experiments. Not to mention the traveler has at least three or four times been stabbed in the back by people who claimed to be friends. Yes he and childe has become friends that is obvious but it's also understandable that it's one out of way too many bad encounters that obviously has hardened his heart. It is completely understandable the traveler acts this way after everything the fatui has done to the four Nations so far. and yes we trusted childe for alot less but you cannot compare the first betrayal with the possible fifth, of course he would have his guards up at this point, it's gonna take some time and Sacrifice on the other side before that.
A few things I want to theorise: >Neuvillette is the dragon. The rain thing in these 2 quests and him being somewhat confused on human emotions made me think that and he kinda looked like one xD (which I think many of us think) >Arlecchino will use those pockets to do something and Liney-Linnette will be betrayed bcuz of it >Furina acts the way she does bcuz she's lonely and terrified of something (you can hear her cry in the fountain) I haven't watched the trailer for no spoilers, so if these were in there I wouldn't know so excuse me :')
Saying that Fatui are in a gray area is a bit of a stretch. So far in the story, they have: used the instability in Mondstad to try and basically make it a puppet state; almost destroyed Liyue - sure, we now know that situation was under control but Childe didn’t know that, and he had no problem with letting Osial drown the harbour along with all its inhabitants, and even sent soldiers to the Jade Chamber to help him; tried to reignite the civil war on Inazuma *twice* for literally no reason other that being salty about Rosaline’s death - the Electro Gnosis was long taken since then; kidnapping and brainwashing of orphans, Dottore’s experiments (which are most likely approved by the Tsaritsa), Regrator’s line about “Northland bank’s true currency are blood and tears”; The only good things they did as an organization so far is fighting against the Abyss, which is most likely their ultimate goal with all the Gnosis business, and whatever Arleccino is doing rn. I do agree that everything in Genshin is not black or white, but with the Fatui, it’s not equal of black and white, but more like a… cup of bleach in a barrel of oil.
To be fair, the stuff on Inazuma post-Gnosis was just a butt-hurt Rosaline simp who went completely against orders to do it and lied to the people involved that it was an official fatui operation.
the paimon sunglasses/accessory idea reminds me of an item in LEGO video games that would give all the characters silly glasses or santa hats in cutscenes, it was great.
Traveler and Futuna’s anger at Lyney and Lynette is justified. They withheld information from their defense attorney, and blatantly played at being friendly with them. They also had only recently met Traveler and Paimon, whereas Childe had several chances to make up with and befriend them over time (events, Teucer, etc.)
I honestly enjoy fontaine way more than I thought? Also Neuvillette is so different than I thought he would be- he's one of my favorite characters now!
I don't know how to put it, but the thing with Childe, is that after learning his lesson in Liyue, he comes clean with things being a bad guy, actually he never denied even when they first met him. I doubt the traveler trusts Childe, but he trusts the facts. They can get along with some things mainly because of Childe's approach, and the traveler not rejecting him because there's really no hostility, along the way, basically it took time. But if his actions were to cause them or those around them harm they will not hesitate to clash. They all know that, so it makes it easier for them to get along in their own way as frenemies
Bro Furina is definitely similiar to Franziska Von Karma and i love it,im also glad we dont have some sort of penalty bar like in Ace Attorney whenever we get something wrong
the amount of arguing chat was doing that day was crazy my god lol also I dont know why so many people seem to not understand "good people can do bad things" and vice versa is a real thing, just because we are friends with archons does not mean they didnt do messed up stuffs in the past (just as Traveller has btw) and just because Fatui are often clashing with us and are doing messed up stuffs does not mean they are unable to be neutral or good forces at any given time (especially on a personal level, like are you really gonna blame a kid who got into the Fatui as a kid and grew up into it and does not know any better on the same scale as Dottore?? i just refuse to believe any Fatuus to be straight evil just because they are a Fatuus). We have been shown time and time again that its just a matter of sides being picked not pure good or evil most of the time. Also i personally loved Furina, she is so extra and dramatic i cannot take her seriously and i think she is just a bit silly and not that smart and overall lack maturity (which makes sense she IS very young compared to Venti, Zhongli or Raiden and she isnt the god of Wisdom like Nahida), i was kinda happy about how they handled traveller as it reminded me of Inazuma when Traveller refuses to help initially until Ayaka basically makes a deal with us (you help with the vision hunt decree, we get you a meeting with the Shogun), we constantly get thrown into Fatui plots and Nations' drama and until Sumeru never got anything in return to help us find/know about our sibling so them not wanting anything to do with the twins after their initial white lie and not wanting to investigate further with Navia is completely in character, we never claimed to be heroes (Al haitham even said somethig similar during Sumeru Archon quest act 4 i believe when he asks us what we planned to do about all of sumeru nay all of Teyvat as there is suffering everywhere and trying to help every single individual is not viable) ANAYWAY i really enjoyed the quest personally, any complain i'd have would be nitpicks or just personal preferences (i am very biased as someone who has played every danganronpa and other games from the same developpers and thoroughly enjoyed the mysteries)
I always think that the Fatui are a machiavellian type of organization, they believe their end goal (Tsaritsa's end goal) is the best for everyone and they are trying to fullfil it regardless of how many people they manipulate or trampled with...the means justifies the ends kind of thing. I won't say they are good people coz they're clearly not but I can't say that they could be on the gray area also since some of the Harbingers are just evil (Dottore)...maybe it will just depend on the Fatuus that we will meet. And regards with our "friendship" with Childe, I can't really call it that...for me it's more like of an acquaintance type of thing, it's more like Childe is the one who treats us like a friend (or someone he can trust regardless if we stand on diff sides of the spectrum) I thinks "connections" like that have existed in anime and games before.
I didn't expect genshin went like 18+ dark on the backstory cause before this ,the dark and messed up still within the lines of 15/16+ but it I am applaud the guts and open to see what they do next
notice how except for liyue, every region we went to, we met a harbinger who was born in that region. mondstadt- la signora, inazuma- scaramouche, sumeru- dottore. and now according to lyney, arlecchino is from fontaine and we'll probably meet her at some point in fontaine. is this a pattern?
Nope, fatui are the bad guys. Let's just remind ourselves of what Dottore has been doing to kids they took in from Mond and to poor Collei. Let's remind ourselves that Childe wanted to drown an entire nation. Let's remind ourselves that Signora and Scara literally killed people with the whole delusions thing in Inazuma, and we were their hit target the entire game. I don't want to make it sound like all the other sides of the conflict are innocent, but let's not create this idea that the fatui are doing the right thing. I don't care what agenda the cryo archon has or how noble her cause is, killing people like that is never justified. They are not morally grey, they are bad. And yes, working for such organization, when you have a choice not to, also makes you a bad person. Because you aren't just sitting there doing nothing, you are helping them achieve their goals. So I don't blame the traveler for not wanting to be friends with the twins. And Tartar is not traveler's friend. He is just an annoying mosquito and the traveler is done enough to not care anymore
It was ADDICTING. I found myself very intrigued and didn’t even notice until I was 5 hours in. Buttttt, yes there’s always a but, I did have some “objection” moment at the traveller’s attitude change before and after they hear about the House of the Hearth. It’s not really the double standard that I’m uncomfortable about, it’s the fact that they have such a black-and-white view on the Fatui. The quest assumes that we know House of the Hearth which assumes we did the world quest which means we’ve met good Fatui ppl. The traveller has allegedly travelled to many planets and met millions of ppl and encountered so many interesting stories. Along with all the world quest we’ve done, the traveller should have seen it all. So this was really a weird moment for me. It almost makes all the previous alleged experience useless and even non-existent. Like sooner or later they should know that some Fatui are normal human and they need to survive. I hope the traveller at least have a change of attitude at the end of this archon quest. (Some ppl argues that the traveller felt betrayed. Well Lyney and Lynette did not intentionally deceive us not being Fatui. They didn’t try to mislead us into their scheme or whatnot. They chose to not mention it cuz they know Fatui’s infamous reputation. And honestly anyone could argue that being a Fatui has nothing to do in this case (except the fact that the true culprit want to put the blame on Fatui) and I don’t feel the need for that disclosure.)
Was it just me who noticed, but Fontaine is the only Nation where it rains INSIDE the main cities, but doesn't outside? Up until that part of the archon quest. I've been extensively traveling my maps to complete exploration. Never once encountered rain outside of the archon quest when if it were Sumeru, Monds, Liyue or Inazuma, there'd be adverse weather already. Also, I haven't heard Zhongli go "Violetgrass..." [Edit] Isn't our Traveler kinda hypocritical? I so agree. Surprised to find out some people are Fatui, but are friends WITH a Harbinger (and a former one) of all people? He's even in our Teapot! And mind you, at higher friendship level, he literally INVITES us to his home, to meet his family, and offers to take us around his Nation as our tour guide (which imo might be how we'll get to Snezhnaya later on). We're even so enthused by the idea. Freal- Traveler is the one that's sus sometimes...
while i understand where bran is coming from with us always being aggressive to the fatui being kinda off considering most the players simp over the harbingers, i would like to point out that every time we run into harbingers they are actively trying to either destroy a country(as a means of getting the gnosis) or trying to destroy us. All the chill fatui we've met via world quests arnt necessarily "canon" cause people could have never done those and gotten to this point. though paimon and the traveler need to learn not to judge a book by its cover, thats discrimination.
When we one day undoubtedly ascend to a god as the traveller, I can't wait for people be like, I met them, they helped me find my keys(cat,snake, rope) or they cooked me a meal! Etc... Its gonna be hilarious.
Im quite happy that Hoyo is now more relaxed in the Archon quest. They realized that they dont need to contain it to 3 acts so the characters have more screentime to show their real personalities
I mean it probably still will have 3 or 4 acts they're just not releasing them all at once
Didn't sumeru have 5 acts across 4.0, 4.1, and 4.2
@@sethsilvermoon4223Technically 6 if you count Caribert
@@racool911caribert is an interlude chapter
@@illuminat121 no it's not. it's act 6 of the sumeru archon quests and the last interlude was inversion of genesis.
I love how we all thought Neuvillette was gonna be a cold and serious person like Alhaitham, but he's actually a really nice guy who's willing to help us if he could. The VA really delivered, both EN and JP. Instant must pull.
He's just forced to repress his emotions to both remain impartial and possibly control his power so he never truly got the chance to understand them
Ray Chase, the en va for Neuvillette said on twitter that he requested to rerecord all the previous voicelines after recording the last scene where Neuv visits Navia's father because he understand Neuvillette now,
thats why Neuvillette is different from the game and the trailer
@@udavol5Which is hilarious because since he doesn't understand human emotions, the seemingly cold indifference of his not understanding the character actually fits perfectly in character.
i think that alhaitham is the kind of guy who doesnt give a shit about everything
29:19 "I feel like her entire life is a performance." well someone called it...
literally HAHAHAH
Literally! Bar for bar, band for band, word for word!
2:39:50 That's... a translation issue
In the original, what Paimon meant was "We based our reasoning on the assumption that you weren't the culprit", implying that at this point, since Paimon and the traveler don't have the full picture because of Lyney's lies, they can't say for certain that he's not the culprit.
There are no good way to translate the phrasing of the chinese sentence in english though
I honestly applaud Hoyo for putting such dark themes into the main story. What (almost?) Happened to Lynette is really messed up the more you think about it.
It's been implied that the girls in the basement were already traumatized, which is even worse.
What the hell is that pfp
Epstein moment.
@@nowhere1606osmanthus wine
Fr when i played through it i genuknely had tp take a pause after that like... fuck dude shit just got real
I love Furina so much. She's like Fischl but with actual power and authority. I bet they'd get along great, or constantly try and one-up the other.
Add Hu Tao and Faruzan
And you have the chaotic 4
@@quietguyjosh4643nah Hu Tao and Itto
@blad3thompson
Nah, Fischl would hate her. She would see Furina as a kindred spirit initially until she realizes that Furina is all flash and no substance. While Fischl is all about the performance, even she knows where to draw the line. The difference between Furina and Fischl is that Furina is just Furina (as far as we know at the moment), but Fischl has Amy actually in the driver seat. And Amy would look at Furina's flaunting of murders and kidnappings with disgust. Also, Oz would also be uncomfortable with how Furina acts. Oz take great pains to reign Fischl in to make sure she never goes that far. To see someone actually go that far might cause Oz to snap. Not to mention, it's possible Amy would see the part of herself that she likes the least in Furina, you know, the whole, "EVERYONE LOOK AT ME! I'M THE CENTER OF ATTENTION!" I, honestly, don't think Fischl would like seeing that because it would be like looking into a mirror, but taken to the extreme. Honestly? Given what we know about Fischl/Amy, I think she would be disgusted, not only at Furina, but at all the people of Fontaine for their perversion of The Theater and Storytelling. If it's one thing Fischl/Amy would not be okay with it's taking someone else's pain and putting it on full display for the world, glorifying it. And that is exactly how Fontaine treats Court Trials and the True Stories they represent. She would also be disgusted at how the people of Fontaine don't think for themselves and blindly believe the rulings of The Oratrice. In fact, I believe the people of Sumeru would feel the exact same way since they JUST went through the same thing. Oh God... Nilou would be completely mortified if she saw how the people of Fontaine treat The Theater.
Navia is the better version of Fraudrina
I don't know how the humans make a delusional god, but they did it. They made a chuni god.
In all of the other nations in Teyvat, the archon has a pet. In Fontaine however, the archon is the pet
Hahahahahah, you made me spit out my cereal this was great.
Foçalors reminds me of a cockatil bobbing its hea dup and down being annoying but its too adorable to hate
I love how Neuvillette is such a chill and soft spoken guy (besides the necessary authority when presiding, of course) but he is clearly so beyond done with Furina's antics. Usually not a guy character puller, but he's great. Such class, and just odd enough to be strangely endearing. Zhongli 2 is a success.
Even though they have similar personality, I think Neuvillette and Zhongli are still very different. It's a shame that some people call Neuvillette Hydro Zhongli, but that was expected lol
I don't think he is simply done with furina persay. From what we saw, he just knows very well how to deal with her different personas/antics. Like when furina becomes serious in the second act, he is also open to hear more from her. Other people like navia thinks she was ashamed of the previous case, which was why she suddenly mellow down, but Neuvillette told us that Furina is very serious when it comes to the prophecy and that's the reason her attitude in the first versus second acts are so different.
Unfortunately though I dont think even Neuvillette believes in Furina. I remember when Nahida came out and there was a line he said about her which was something like "at least she (Nahida) cares about her people" which indirectly means he believes Furina does not care.
It's certain that he doesn't like her, but I also don't think he hates her that much.
@@neuvineedsahug genshin players thinks every old serious man is Zhongli lmao.
@@neuvineedsahug Both of them say Order, and if the theories are correct they're kinda both Dragons as well
One of the first insights we get into Furina's character is a letter written by Neuvillette talking about how much of a brat she is. He is SO done with her
The Archon quest at Fontaine can be said to be quite interesting, it makes me feel like I am reading a detective book with a combination of drama genre.
Although it didn't have much of a battle in it, it's somehow really entertaining for those who love mysteries.
I also like ace attorney vibes they gave in this quest, it feels refreshing since it fits with mystery genre in this quest
The whole investigation part feels like I'm playing tears of themis
@@ahsanallamunjanI mean it's also basically just the magical turnabout
@@Herrscher-of-Autism yep pretty much
“It seems like her whole life is a performance”
*sweats profusely*
Bro looked into the future
THIS ACT WAS MAGNIFIQUE the characters the music the pace the VA's and the mystery it's really perfect this is my first new zone when I'm here cause I started during 3.2. I just wanted to say until now this baguette Fontaine is so good
1:05:26 Seeing those guys running away from Childe one by one in the background was honestly really funny
The character designs are absolutely flawless. The voice actors all KILLED it for their roles, especially Focalors, it's phenomenal. I'm so sad I lost my Lyney 50/50 and I hope to get him on rerun :') Fontaine is surpassing all expectations
Sending you some of my luck 🎉 (ive won 3 50/50 in a row since ayaka rerun i feel like ill get hit by a bus with neuvillette's banner hahsga)
@@connormarshall1272 Im grabbing some of this luck, thank you (lost 10 50/50s in a row including lyney) Im still trying for him though hopefully fontaine gives me enough wishes to make up for it :D
@@dragonkyuualso sending you luck, been playing since release and i lost my 50/50 only once 😭 (at hu tao release banner to diluc)
29:18 " I feel like her entire life is a performance" little did he know
All the VAs in Fontaine did a fantastic job especially Furina's. I loved it so much
Regarding the whole Lyney and Lynette vs traveler thing, I think the issue the traveler could’ve had is that they’re putting themselves on the line for both twins and could potentially risk their travels and reputation, they didn’t know they were members of the Fatui and that could’ve potentially harm their travel through Teyvat.
Plus the fact that traveler has had more bonding with Childe and has seen that apart from being a harbinger, he does have a more human side to hi while taking care of Teucer, and the fact that they know Childe would potentially protect them against most enemies apart from himself and maybe the Tsaritsa.
So to me, it’s more so the fact that they both lied about their involvement with the Fatui and House of the Hearth because they are potentially risking a huge loss and a huge Red Cross on their record
I would also assume that the traveler behave that way against Lyney and Lynette once he finds out about their allegiance due to the altercation with that fake shrine maiden back in Inazuma back then (that hidden Inazuma quest) which revealed The Knave (Arlecchino) and the House of the Hearth modus operandi
even if they aren't fatui the fact that they lied about what they did inside the tunnel is enough to wash away any trust.
as an introvert, if I publicly speak for them but they change what they meant to say midway I would be pissed too....and very embarrassed.
The thing I will say about Bran trying to be "look at the Fatui saving Fontaine, how nice", keep in mind that
A.) Fontaine's story is about deception and layers of layers of lies. Yes, Arlecchino and the House of Hearth might be looking to help Fontaine, but there is also more to it. Especially how they are doing things undercover and not directly collaborating with Focalors to save Fontaine.
B.) Also we have Scaramouche and Childe's Warnings regarding to not trust Arlecchino. She's a very fascinating and gray character. She saves orphans, but also trains them to become loyal child soldiers of the Fatui. Many have disappeared and while some voicelines don't suggest she's abusive or cruel to the children, but still harsh towards them to build them as soliders .She is caring towards the orphans, but described as violent, a psycho and a wolf in sheep's clothing, willing to betray people at the drop of a hat. Her title is literally the "Knave", an untrustworthy person.
This is me saying that don't think the Fatui are all good or all bad, but gray and this story is so HELLA COOL. I'm very excited to meet Arlecchino herself since everything we heard is from other people and not from her herself yet
Also Bran please stop getting hung up about Lynette's disappearance, that was an actual magic trick compared to the actual dissolving
Let's also not forget that Arlecchino doesn't only "take in" orphans. She, literally, tried to to kidnap non-orphan children from Vimara Village in Sumeru.
Also, Lyney says that Arlecchino told him the House of Hearth's mission is to save Fontaine and its people. However, we don't know that to be true. I find it mighty convenient that a super rich person bought Lynette from their previous owner, which ended up luring Lyney to the same location, only to have Arlecchino arrive on site and kill said rich person. Let us not forget the richest people in Teyvat are the Fatui (although Dori might disagree). It's entirely possible that Lyney and Lynette's "adoption" by the rich guy to the "purchase" of Lynette by another rich guy was all an elaborate ruse of misdirection for Arlecchino to get Lyney and Lynette to join her willingly. I submit that, at least, the guy that "purchased" Lynette was, in fact, a Fatuus and willingly gave his life "For The Tsaritsa."
I also submit that the true reason Arrlechino is having Lyney and Lynette look into the Oratrice is because she believes that the Hydro Gnosis is what is powering it, just like how the Dendro Gnosis powered The Akasha System in Sumeru. I also get the feeling she's way off base.
@@ForeverDegeneratei mean they are like the second richest maybe 3rd the richest one’s are liyue
@@LeonMauriceSüre I don't know... I think Dori might give Ningguang a run for her Mora.
On your take on the Fatui and Childe, I think you seem to be seeing the forest by the trees, but missing the mountain on which the forest resides. In nearly every instance of our dealings with the Fatui, they've been antagonistic at best. We've nearly been killed by their members at least a handful of times. Childe is the outlier, and it even took in-game months for the Traveler to have at least a neutral stance on him. Note that even in the case you raise during the questline start, neither Paimon nor the Traveler refer to him as their friend, they just don't refute him, since, he's done this quite a bit with no hints of stopping, even when we protested against it.
There's a very good reason Lyney and Lynette would assume we're automatically slated against them. The Fatui have a bad rep in pretty much every single country we've visited so far. Not to mention, the Traveler's relationship with them MUST be well known by now. We have a pretty good history of, even publicly, not being on good terms with them. It makes sense that those in the Fatui would know of the Traveler and his relationship with the organization. Childe is an extreme exception of us having at worst a neutral relationship with a SINGLE member of the organization. Just because we can be friendly with Childe, doesn't mean the Traveler or Paimon will likely instantly trust another member of the organization. In fact, it's probably because of Childe why we don't just instantly abandon Lyney to his projected fate.
Edit: Expanding on your "gray" commentary, it really doesn't matter if the Fatui is good or evil when they're being antagonistic towards us. They could be the best people in the world, but they've done quite a bit of harm to the Traveler and those he likes. To us, an outsider looking in, that's just par the course for an interesting villain-like organization. To the Traveler, that's all that matters.
not only Furina's personallity is different from the other archons (being far more childish and incompetent), this is also the first time we saw the Archon on the get go. Quiet a fresh air if you asked me, after 4 times searching for the Archon's attention
As nahida said " She still reserves the right to influence the final verdict"
This statement alone strike me hard with regards to the machine, Is furina + the machine = Hydro Arhon?
What if her gnosis is its core like the dendro gnosis was the akasha's core?
@@sarahimran946 That's an interesting theory there. Perhaps? I feel there is still a lot that is left unknown about Furina, Fontaine and honestly just about everything here, but im eager to find out.
the machine core apparently has a voice too so i don't think it's just the gnosis@@sarahimran946
@brainrot7956 No, they say "deliver accurate sentences" as in verdicts, so I don't think it actually has a voice
Maybe it has like remnant of consciousness of the former hydro archon?(like similar to makato and rukkedevata) and I was wondering since it rains whenever there are trials, it might have to do with the oratrice, maybe she gets sad judging people thats why she cries and thats why it rains, maybe the voice in the fountain is her too. Or maybe it is furina idk anyway I am excited for future archon quests ^^
I love that Dehya was the one to say goodbye to us before we head to Fontaine....Best girl of Sumeru, indeed. (imo)
I wish they didn't make her kit so bad. I still built her but if only she was stronger.
For me, the difference with the twins lying is because if im remembering correctly, childe told us when we first met him that he was a harbinger while they didn’t. i get the trouble with bringing it up but it makes them look bad and untrustworthy, because in the traveller and paimons, eyes the fatui are the villains (childe is a weird exception, i’m assuming his story quest is canon?). after signora, scara before he was erased, and the doctor, the traveller and paimon won’t view them as the good guys
I think the story quest are Canon heck even some events are Canon since they will chnage the dialouge if you met a charcter or not.
It's all about honesty.
Yknow what's weird...?
I unironically feel like Sumeru is home. Like if I go back to Sumeru, I'll probably never leave. Had to actively remind myself "YO FONTAINE COME ON DUDE" haha
Viva La Sumeru I guess.
Mondstat will always be the true home for us old players.
Truee. I never felt that attached to mondstat but sumeru really feels like home.
I began playing in 2.8 so sumeru is THE genshin for, sumeru is what first comes to my mind when genshin is mentioned
i feel like it's 'cause in sumeru we've connected to the characters a lot more than in other archon quests
we've also spend an ungodly amount of time there with these 5 hour quests lmao
imo Sumeru is where the traveller isn't just a hero but everyone's friend. Not counting Nahida we're also friends with the Eremites, Scholars, Mahamatra, Forest Rangers, the people in the Bazaar, and most importantly the Aranara. Hell we're on friendly terms with the guy who tried who take all of those away from us.
I absolutely loved this quest. It had everything, the mystery, the suspense, the drama and everything. This was the first time I felt that an archon quest in Genshin became dark. For me this quest is equal to the Sumeru archon quests, really love both!
To be honest the Traveler and Childe aren't really friends, ever since they first met him the Traveler never really trusted him and even now they don't entirely trust him either. The best way to describe the Traveler's relationship with Childe would be: mutual respect. They fought together and respect each other as warriors not to mention that enough time and story quests have passed that the Traveler understands who Childe is as a person.
In a way Childe is one of the most trustworthy Fatui members since he's pretty open about what he's really interested in and the Traveler knows that and can trust him now to a certain point but still sees him as an enemy. Lyney and Lynette aren't the same as Childe, by this point the Traveler has witnessed a LOT of bad things the Fatui have done and has been personally tricked and betrayed multiple times by members of the Fatui so it's no surprise that they reacted so negatively towards them when they found out. The Traveler was at least nice enough to help prove them innocent before ditching them.
I think it's simple as what Childe said after we fought its not personal. And now after Fontaine we have true confirmation that all of the Fatui have there own agenda and style. Edit I agree lol
That’s what I was thinking. They’re not super friendly with Childe and the traveler definitely don’t fully trust him. He’s just the one the traveler knows the most and his intentions are pretty clear. Aside from Childe the rest of the fatui have just been cruel and rude from the get go and even Childe was pretty bad at the beginning so I’m not at all surprised Paimon doesn’t really like them and considers them the bad guys. Even when they have good intentions they usually go about it in horrible ways.
The fact that Bran apparently somehow doesn't see how the fatui, ya know, literal terrorists (Childe in Liyue) who hurt people indiscriminately and have a group where they turn orphans into child soldiers, are the bad guys, is incredibly confuaing.
I think Bran as so your right still but for others to be fair may have not done all the side content meaning some did not know anything about the house of hearth and child soldiers. 2nd I mean the game makes you forget considering your so buddy buddy with Childe lol.
Edit: also it's has Lyney said all the Fatui harbingers have different goals and to most of them there just doing there job for a noble cause which could be true who knows.
@@exdeathex3949 yea but the traveler doesn't wanna fight, as I'm pretty sure said Childe is a friend the game pushes it both ways at times the traveler is really chill others not. Plus I can't say this with 100 percent accuracy but I belive it was stated that if you can have the character in your party they and the traveler are either friends or chill enough to go on adventures together. But take this and ignore it cause I can't back it up but I swear I heard/read it somewhere.
I think the point kind of is that there is no one good and bad sides as all sides have done messed up things. I don't think Bran was arguing that the fatui aren't bad but just that there is a grey area there too and not all who are fatui are bad or do so with bad intentions.
Will the "OBJECTION!" meme last untill the end of fontaine?
YES
do i love it?
ALSO YES
I’m watching this months after I finished the archon quests- I didn’t realise how much foreshadowing/foreboding there is at the start.. the hints of what is to happen- I have watched this video on and off again so I can’t remember all of them but I remember how the music when going into Fontaine city is the same as when focalors does her final dance- like a marker to the start and the end of their journey, and how someone’s theory at the start when receiving the magic pocket was that the people from Fontaine all really came from the waters/lived there. (Like they did as oceanids) that’s only a couple out of the many I’ve picked up on so far but wow genshin is amazing (also I just the noticed hydro dragon hydro dragon don’t cry! Which is also said by focalors to neuvillette when she’s about to die)
When I heard that Fontaine is a nation of justice, I always request a murder mystery quest on surveys and hoyo delivered. Rlly, this is such an amazing archon quest!
Go to the fountain of Lucine, stand in its waters, and listen closely. You can hear Furina crying miserably. Apparently she’s suffering from ungodly loneliness and feels that she’s on a time crunch.
Probably because she knows the prophecy will eventually come to fruition but doesn't know how to put a stop to it
@@hyper45325 Yeah, but she sure doesn't show it in public
@@dyproxus1806 well tbf, it's probably her torn between caring about her people and her narcissistic personality. Narcissists usually care a lot about people but have trouble showing it. On top of that, she definitely seems like the type that wants to actually appear as a god in front of her people vs say Nahida who doesn't care much for reminding people that she's a god
@hyper45325 heavily disagree that Furina is an actual narcissist, she seems to be posturing a lot imo
@@equalopportunity2048 I can see that view actually. I think it's a little bit of both an act and her actual personality
I absolutely LOVE this Archon Quest! Fontaine is now my favorite region
Someone need to clip 29:21 and make bran knows he predicted the archon quest
you mean 29:19
If you look at Neuvillette from front, you'll notice that his design resembles the scales. I don't know if it is an obvious part of his design, but if you haven't noticed it yet, try looking at his shoulders and how he has this straight line from one shoulder to the other and this tear-shaped (or rather a triangle-shaped) piece of fabric hanging from each shoulder. I really like how they somewhat subtly incorporated that into his clothes, while making it fit the rest of his flowy outfit.
I felt such huge Ace Attorney/Danganronpa vibes from this quest, and I loved it.
Furina = kokichi?????
Fun fact: Kokichi and Lyney have the same voice actor (Japanese)
I loved this Archon quest. What a different twist on things - solving a case!!
Bran - you did pronounce Neuvilette and Freminet really well, being French myself, I guarantee it.
I'm not sure why Lyney's va added an R in his name because tjere isn't one. Chat was wrong about the T in Freminet. We would pronounce the T only if it was followed with an E.
Anyway.....have a wonderful time away 😀
Neu not Ner
Chevrolet not Chevrolette
@@quietguyjosh4643 Exactement
Saw d
French is my 2nd lang (somewhat fluent) and the place called poisson made me die laughing like they really just named a town in the french hydro nation "fish" 😂
@connormarshall1272 It's very funny. I love the dog called Baguette too!!
I feel like almost everyone forgot to start the quest and just went straight ahead to Fontaine 😂. I usually will start the quest first then I'll explore a bit before continuing the quest. I guess being in the desert for too long have made everyone dehydrated 😂.
yea , had already unlocked a chunk of Fontaine before starting the quest cuz apparently I couldn't swim on the bus route 😂😂😂😂
2:41:57 Anton, Katarina, and Nikolay of the Fatui's 9th company did nothing wrong. They genuinely believe they were there to help the people of Liyue fighting against the forces of evil in the chasm.
And now we know that they are fontanian
True but they also don't represent the overall goals and objectives of the Fatui. The Fatui as a whole certainly aren't in a gray area like Bran suggested. They more often than not are in the black in order to achieve their goals, righteous or otherwise. The Chasm Fatui NPC's showed a lot more humanity to them but also in some respects a disturbing devotion to the Tsaritsa. The Fatui are the bad guys for the most part since they facilitate a lot of the turmoil that happens, sometimes on the same level as the Abyss. There's obviously more to them but as of now, they are the bad guys regardless of their reasoning
The Fatui aren't a "grey" organization, they've done a lot of bad things as we've discovered throughout different events, they have a LOT of side projects going on behind the scenes.
In Mondstat they may have not been responsible for the Storm Terror incident but they did physically assault Venti and the Traveler in front of a church and left, in Liyue they almost drowned the ENTIRETY of Liyue and its citizens by releasing an ancient sea god, in Inazuma they essentially helped cause a civil war since if memory serves the vision hunt decree was their idea and in Sumeru they essentially trapped people inside a dream world to help fuel their false god creation plan and brainwashed innocent civilians just to screw with the Traveler.
There is probably all sorts of things I can't remember at the moment that the Fatui have done that just help drive the point home that the Fatui are generally not good people, and smaller members of the Fatue like the grunts that got stuck in the Chasm were just left behind and forgotten.
@@HectorCotto97 "they almost drowned the ENTIRETY of Liyue and its citizens by releasing an ancient sea god" To be fair, Childe did that as a last ditch effort to force Morax to step out of the shadows, because he was banking on the idea that Morax wouldn't just let Osial destroy Liyue. Don't get me wrong, still a terrible and dangerous thing to do, and I doubt he would have cared too much if it had gone wrong, but they never actually wanted to destroy Liyue.
As for Sumeru. Dottore has his own fun. None of that was actually part of the Fatui's official plan, Dottore just likes to "experiment." He was sent there purely to get the gnoses. But like how the Tsaritsa has apparently allowed Arlecchino the opportunity to use the hydro gnosis before she hands it over, they probably didn't care all that much about what he did with them first.
@hectorcotto97 gray people means exactly do bad things for a greater good and they want to change the world for obtain a better one and want to stop the abyss order to destroy the word in this sense many fatui are gray not everyone( example dottore) but a great part of them think so
I’m absolutely loving the characters of Fontaine!
I personally think Lyne has good intentions but Arrlechino doesn’t. My guess is the Hydro Gnosis is what powers the Oraclase and that’s why Lyne is told to investigate it.
I feel like the fan base has a huge misconception on how the Traveler treats Childe. From the start we knew he was Fatui and was aware of his intent for us before reaching the Golden House, so it’s not surprising when he attacks us. After that, we only keep things civil with him because there’s always someone around who’d get caught in the crossfire as well as the fact that Childe gives us information. First there was Tucser, then we were protecting Xinyan, and after that there was Yoimiya; who we even told to be careful as well as inform her about his identity and that he’s banned in Inazuma. The Traveler has never actively tried to spend time with this man for fun.
Yeah Childe's friendship always felt one sided for the most part
But traveller also acted a bit too chummy with him in fontaine act 1 for some reason
My personal headcanon is that traveler is just a selfish radical centrist without any ideological beliefs or moral compass, who doesn't care about whether the people he associates with are autocratic dictators or rebel leaders or tried to commit a genocide or whatever else they do and stand for, as long as they treat the traveler nicely and friendly, they can be friends.
But if the traveler personally or one of his friends gets treated poorly by someone, that person will receive all the vengeance and regret the day they crossed the traveler.
even if the twin aren't fatui as a lawyer that publicly represent them I too would be pissed that they didn't tell me about going into the basement via vent.
@@ProfessionalPizza7yeah I felt the same. I’m not against Childe appearing in events or what not but they do need to be careful how Traveler and Paimon sees him. A bit biased since I love Signora but the hostility towards her was more palpable compared to Childe. Obviously considering both have done them quite wrong
To be fair to the twins, when exactly were they expected to bring up them being Fatui members when they were hanging out prior to this situation, also in what world would someone being accused of a crime they didn't do, openly admit to being part of a criminal organization to people they're trying to prove that they're not bad guys to? It's a very complicated thing to have to admit when it has nothing to do with the case at the time. Furina bringing up them being Fatui was a very dirty trick, as it was clearly meant to drive a wedge between the twins and the traveller and completely sully the audience's view of them when it had nothing to do with the case.
This archon was insane! I know there’s a lot of different opinions on Furina, but honestly I LOVE her, she’s like if Fischel was mixed with a bigger god complex and I’m here for it. The VA did an incredible job, her laugh gets me every time😂
She's a brat which is why i love her i wanna smother the gremlin 😂
The beggining made me cry, I'm so attached to Sumeru and it's characters, it was so melancholic...
My expectations has been met and enjoyed both Acts so far, can't wait for the other acts and progress in the archon quest.
Dendro archon: 1000+ IQ
Hydro archon: two braincells rubbing together producing random thoughts
BRAN I CANT TELL YOU HOW LONG IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOUR PLAYTHROUGH OF THE FONTAINE ARCHON QUESTS 🤣🤣🤣 IVE LITERALLY BEEN AVOIDING YOUR SHORTS JUST BC I WANTED TO WATCH YOU EXPERIENCE EVERYTHING IN FULL
SAME LOL
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Same haha his reaction is just as entertaining as the quest itself
what Bran said about the traveler not trusting Lyney and Lynette: "We've trusted people for less in the past" I think that's why the traveler is so reluctant to trust them. It's because he has trusted many people in the past that turned out to be evil that now he doesn't want to trust the twins so easily.
they didn't tell us about going into the basement tru the vent. even if they aren't fatui I would still be pissed.
"Performance? I feel like her entire life is a performance" BRAN THE PREDICTOR
"We based our reasoning on the assumption that you weren't the bad guy."
"Bad guy" being the culprit, not Fatui. Traveller and Paimon are mad because Lyney lied that he was on the box the entire time and we based our reasoning on that scenario. Being a Fatui has very little contribution to it.
36:00 Dude just foreshadowed the whole plot xD
WAIT TRUE WHAT
I find it so funny how Paimon treats/behaves around Neuvilette and Furina this time.
Reminds me so much of how she did that with Diluc and Venti
Also imagine if we could have gotten the chance to talk with Furina when she first appeared, could have been the shortest archon quest ever.
Hm not the god that took my sister...so have you seen her? No? Okay time to go to the next region then
A pity that the editor took away the moment when Bran says "Oh no" around 1:22:36. When he streamed that part on Twitch, it sounded like he had done a huge mistake by pronouncing Neuvillette's name wrong. You could hear it in his voice when he said that.
Fontaine city area is what i imagine mondatadt would look like from the ruin of stormterror lair if it wasnt destroyed
Furina is absolutely my favorite character of Fontaine so far (though everyone has been great imo, especially Neuvelitte) and I'm excited to see what twists lie in store regarding her.
Lyney is constantly hyping up Arrlechino to us, but he has hero worship from her saving Lynette and pretty much admitted that he’s being groomed to be her successor, of course she focuses on making sure he has a favorable impression. Freminet, by contrast, gives off the vibe of an abuse victim, and just about every NPC raised in the House of Hearth reads as HEAVILY traumatized. As far as her morality, it basically comes down to “Lyney and Lynette vs literally everyone else.” Saving Lynette was unambiguously good, but she followed it up by compelling them to kill. Little bit hypocritical there.
That said, I don’t think Arrlechino is evil, and I DO think she’s genuinely trying to save Fontaine. I just think she’s a shit parent and shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near children. In this light, Childe and Hat Guy hating her fits with their own established characters: Ajax loves his family, especially his kid siblings, and the thought that Arrlechino could turn them into something like him is probably his worst nightmare. The Wanderer has deep-seated childhood trauma involving the perceived betrayal of caretakers AND being twisted and manipulated by a harbinger who only saw him as a tool. Arrlechino raising child soldiers probably hammers their “trauma buttons” like there’s no tomorrow.
Dude if I was Wanderer I would HATE Arrlechino. Yes, saving Lynette was a good thing to do, but is it really that good if her motive was to groom orphans in a different way? Like at least with Childe, I would believe him saving her would be (more, but still with a double motive) out of the goodness of his heart, due to showing actual human compassion and love for his siblings. Part of the reason the Traveler is right to not trust them is that even when they old affection for him, they’ve been groomed and brainwashed into being pet child soldiers for Arleccino. Even when Lyney says that he will interact with us as “just plain Lyney,” this cannot possibly be the case, as their loyalties will, out of habit and conditioning, always lie blindly with Arleccino who they consider their savior. It’s very sad :(
Came back here to point out 29:19, how right you were.
29:30 "But when there are valid grounds, I will not only judge travellers from abroad, but even the Gods of other lands."
That was a big hint about Focalors plan that even Neuvillette missed.
With more budget comes better and better writing and storytelling. Fontaine Archon quest (so far) is the best one to date for me. I'm very excited for the next acts!
the gameplay in this archon quest was clearly inspired by hoyo's other game, tears of themis! even the bg music during the investigation sounds kinda similar haha
So is Tears of Themis Ace Attorney-ish as well?
ikrrr that's what I'm saying specially when you're collecting evidence and connecting them feels really similar.
@@hayond656It is, the mc there is an attorney afterall.
i never played ace attorney so i wouldn't know, but the general theme must be similar since tot's main gameplay is investigation + trial @@hayond656
Did you know that you can hear how Focalors 's crying if you stand into the lusin fountain and turn off all effects except voice volume in the settings?
29:19
"I feel like her entire life is a performance"
Bro had a vision😭
lmfao i just realized what furina meant by "coupon town"😭😭
OBJECTION!!!!
OBJECTION!! (๑•̀д•́๑)
OBJECTION DENIED!!!!
HEARSAY!!!
Or as I'll always say:
OBJECTION: HERESY!!
Oratrice mécanique D’analyse cardinale disagrees with Monsieur Neuvillette’s verdict !
Objection!!! LACK OF BITCHES
3:24:23 "coupon town" here made no sense at the time but it is actually just a funny nickname for the fortress of meropide
I really like neuvillette, he’s one of my favourite characters
Loved the act1 archon quest, best quest ever in my opinion. Dainsleif quests are tied with them tho. Fontaine is my favorite now due to all the little pockets of land underneath the waters that hold ships and mysterious alien creatures and mysterious objects.
I think this is my 2nd fave quest behind the sumeru finale with the nahida dottore confrontation purely cus of the lore drops. But the gameplay in this was the best in an aq so far
I really need to touch some grass because the first time the thief came up I instantly knew she was from Mondstadt because of her hairstyle (at current really only female Mondstadt NPS have the double bun hairstyle) and when you can start telling the NPCs apart you know you've spent too much time in the game 😂
Lmao😂
i've been waiting for you to react to fontaine archon quest for days now, so happy that its out
I think it’s less that we’re friends with Childe and more that he’s friends with us… there’s a lot less affection in one direction here 😂😅
I do understand that it is grey when it comes to the fatui, but again the traveler lost a fighting companion in inazuma almost lost another in sumeru due to their experiments.
Not to mention the traveler has at least three or four times been stabbed in the back by people who claimed to be friends.
Yes he and childe has become friends that is obvious but it's also understandable that it's one out of way too many bad encounters that obviously has hardened his heart.
It is completely understandable the traveler acts this way after everything the fatui has done to the four Nations so far.
and yes we trusted childe for alot less but you cannot compare the first betrayal with the possible fifth, of course he would have his guards up at this point, it's gonna take some time and Sacrifice on the other side before that.
A few things I want to theorise:
>Neuvillette is the dragon. The rain thing in these 2 quests and him being somewhat confused on human emotions made me think that and he kinda looked like one xD (which I think many of us think)
>Arlecchino will use those pockets to do something and Liney-Linnette will be betrayed bcuz of it
>Furina acts the way she does bcuz she's lonely and terrified of something (you can hear her cry in the fountain)
I haven't watched the trailer for no spoilers, so if these were in there I wouldn't know so excuse me :')
29:21 Did Bran see the future?
Saying that Fatui are in a gray area is a bit of a stretch. So far in the story, they have: used the instability in Mondstad to try and basically make it a puppet state; almost destroyed Liyue - sure, we now know that situation was under control but Childe didn’t know that, and he had no problem with letting Osial drown the harbour along with all its inhabitants, and even sent soldiers to the Jade Chamber to help him; tried to reignite the civil war on Inazuma *twice* for literally no reason other that being salty about Rosaline’s death - the Electro Gnosis was long taken since then; kidnapping and brainwashing of orphans, Dottore’s experiments (which are most likely approved by the Tsaritsa), Regrator’s line about “Northland bank’s true currency are blood and tears”; The only good things they did as an organization so far is fighting against the Abyss, which is most likely their ultimate goal with all the Gnosis business, and whatever Arleccino is doing rn. I do agree that everything in Genshin is not black or white, but with the Fatui, it’s not equal of black and white, but more like a… cup of bleach in a barrel of oil.
To be fair, the stuff on Inazuma post-Gnosis was just a butt-hurt Rosaline simp who went completely against orders to do it and lied to the people involved that it was an official fatui operation.
The coupon town😂😂😂😂 now we understand after playing 3rd act of this quest
the paimon sunglasses/accessory idea reminds me of an item in LEGO video games that would give all the characters silly glasses or santa hats in cutscenes, it was great.
BranOnline 29:15 : ... her entire life is like a performance!
Those who don't know: xD
Those who know: ;_______________;
am I the only one who watched the whole archon quest thrice ? And I'm still not bored ! Amazing story🤩
Traveler and Futuna’s anger at Lyney and Lynette is justified. They withheld information from their defense attorney, and blatantly played at being friendly with them. They also had only recently met Traveler and Paimon, whereas Childe had several chances to make up with and befriend them over time (events, Teucer, etc.)
Bran sees Monsieur Neuvillette and immediately starts panting and going feral... so uncivilized. 😜
I honestly enjoy fontaine way more than I thought? Also Neuvillette is so different than I thought he would be- he's one of my favorite characters now!
I don't know how to put it, but the thing with Childe, is that after learning his lesson in Liyue, he comes clean with things being a bad guy, actually he never denied even when they first met him. I doubt the traveler trusts Childe, but he trusts the facts. They can get along with some things mainly because of Childe's approach, and the traveler not rejecting him because there's really no hostility, along the way, basically it took time. But if his actions were to cause them or those around them harm they will not hesitate to clash. They all know that, so it makes it easier for them to get along in their own way as frenemies
Bro Furina is definitely similiar to Franziska Von Karma and i love it,im also glad we dont have some sort of penalty bar like in Ace Attorney whenever we get something wrong
the amount of arguing chat was doing that day was crazy my god lol also I dont know why so many people seem to not understand "good people can do bad things" and vice versa is a real thing, just because we are friends with archons does not mean they didnt do messed up stuffs in the past (just as Traveller has btw) and just because Fatui are often clashing with us and are doing messed up stuffs does not mean they are unable to be neutral or good forces at any given time (especially on a personal level, like are you really gonna blame a kid who got into the Fatui as a kid and grew up into it and does not know any better on the same scale as Dottore?? i just refuse to believe any Fatuus to be straight evil just because they are a Fatuus). We have been shown time and time again that its just a matter of sides being picked not pure good or evil most of the time.
Also i personally loved Furina, she is so extra and dramatic i cannot take her seriously and i think she is just a bit silly and not that smart and overall lack maturity (which makes sense she IS very young compared to Venti, Zhongli or Raiden and she isnt the god of Wisdom like Nahida), i was kinda happy about how they handled traveller as it reminded me of Inazuma when Traveller refuses to help initially until Ayaka basically makes a deal with us (you help with the vision hunt decree, we get you a meeting with the Shogun), we constantly get thrown into Fatui plots and Nations' drama and until Sumeru never got anything in return to help us find/know about our sibling so them not wanting anything to do with the twins after their initial white lie and not wanting to investigate further with Navia is completely in character, we never claimed to be heroes (Al haitham even said somethig similar during Sumeru Archon quest act 4 i believe when he asks us what we planned to do about all of sumeru nay all of Teyvat as there is suffering everywhere and trying to help every single individual is not viable) ANAYWAY i really enjoyed the quest personally, any complain i'd have would be nitpicks or just personal preferences (i am very biased as someone who has played every danganronpa and other games from the same developpers and thoroughly enjoyed the mysteries)
I always think that the Fatui are a machiavellian type of organization, they believe their end goal (Tsaritsa's end goal) is the best for everyone and they are trying to fullfil it regardless of how many people they manipulate or trampled with...the means justifies the ends kind of thing. I won't say they are good people coz they're clearly not but I can't say that they could be on the gray area also since some of the Harbingers are just evil (Dottore)...maybe it will just depend on the Fatuus that we will meet.
And regards with our "friendship" with Childe, I can't really call it that...for me it's more like of an acquaintance type of thing, it's more like Childe is the one who treats us like a friend (or someone he can trust regardless if we stand on diff sides of the spectrum) I thinks "connections" like that have existed in anime and games before.
I didn't expect genshin went like 18+ dark on the backstory cause before this ,the dark and messed up still within the lines of 15/16+ but it I am applaud the guts and open to see what they do next
All the voice actors are great, but Furina's has done an amazing job showing the chaotic drama-queen that she is.
I didn't play act 2 but i already really enjoyed act 1 i think fontaine might be my favorite archon quest in the future
Act 2 is even better
@@quietguyjosh4643 i just finished the trial of act 2
notice how except for liyue, every region we went to, we met a harbinger who was born in that region. mondstadt- la signora, inazuma- scaramouche, sumeru- dottore. and now according to lyney, arlecchino is from fontaine and we'll probably meet her at some point in fontaine. is this a pattern?
"i feel like her entire life is a performance" little did he know at the time... 💀
when i first did the quest i was like "YOU'RE GONNA ARREST ME BECAUSE PAIMON EXISTS?"
having à paimon is a crime now
@@kiorilifair
"*hey guys it's fine it's part of the show*"
The dude in the box:
Nope, fatui are the bad guys. Let's just remind ourselves of what Dottore has been doing to kids they took in from Mond and to poor Collei. Let's remind ourselves that Childe wanted to drown an entire nation. Let's remind ourselves that Signora and Scara literally killed people with the whole delusions thing in Inazuma, and we were their hit target the entire game.
I don't want to make it sound like all the other sides of the conflict are innocent, but let's not create this idea that the fatui are doing the right thing.
I don't care what agenda the cryo archon has or how noble her cause is, killing people like that is never justified. They are not morally grey, they are bad.
And yes, working for such organization, when you have a choice not to, also makes you a bad person. Because you aren't just sitting there doing nothing, you are helping them achieve their goals.
So I don't blame the traveler for not wanting to be friends with the twins. And Tartar is not traveler's friend. He is just an annoying mosquito and the traveler is done enough to not care anymore
It was ADDICTING. I found myself very intrigued and didn’t even notice until I was 5 hours in.
Buttttt, yes there’s always a but, I did have some “objection” moment at the traveller’s attitude change before and after they hear about the House of the Hearth. It’s not really the double standard that I’m uncomfortable about, it’s the fact that they have such a black-and-white view on the Fatui. The quest assumes that we know House of the Hearth which assumes we did the world quest which means we’ve met good Fatui ppl. The traveller has allegedly travelled to many planets and met millions of ppl and encountered so many interesting stories. Along with all the world quest we’ve done, the traveller should have seen it all. So this was really a weird moment for me. It almost makes all the previous alleged experience useless and even non-existent. Like sooner or later they should know that some Fatui are normal human and they need to survive. I hope the traveller at least have a change of attitude at the end of this archon quest.
(Some ppl argues that the traveller felt betrayed. Well Lyney and Lynette did not intentionally deceive us not being Fatui. They didn’t try to mislead us into their scheme or whatnot. They chose to not mention it cuz they know Fatui’s infamous reputation. And honestly anyone could argue that being a Fatui has nothing to do in this case (except the fact that the true culprit want to put the blame on Fatui) and I don’t feel the need for that disclosure.)
i agree! just bc i understand traveler reason for not trusting the twins doesn't mean that i will not get upset by their sudden change of behavior
We know the House of the Hearth from the Rana questline, since her boyfriend was both Lawrence Clan AND a member of the HotH.
Here after watching furinas story quest. Its only been a few months but this is so nostalgic
Was it just me who noticed, but Fontaine is the only Nation where it rains INSIDE the main cities, but doesn't outside? Up until that part of the archon quest. I've been extensively traveling my maps to complete exploration. Never once encountered rain outside of the archon quest when if it were Sumeru, Monds, Liyue or Inazuma, there'd be adverse weather already. Also, I haven't heard Zhongli go "Violetgrass..." [Edit] Isn't our Traveler kinda hypocritical? I so agree. Surprised to find out some people are Fatui, but are friends WITH a Harbinger (and a former one) of all people? He's even in our Teapot! And mind you, at higher friendship level, he literally INVITES us to his home, to meet his family, and offers to take us around his Nation as our tour guide (which imo might be how we'll get to Snezhnaya later on). We're even so enthused by the idea. Freal- Traveler is the one that's sus sometimes...
If you like Archon Quest Chapter 4 Act 1
You should try Ace Attorney
The whole thing about comparing speaking to Childe with Lyney/Lynette has one big problem. Childe's kinda just hanging around to fight stuff. XD
while i understand where bran is coming from with us always being aggressive to the fatui being kinda off considering most the players simp over the harbingers, i would like to point out that every time we run into harbingers they are actively trying to either destroy a country(as a means of getting the gnosis) or trying to destroy us. All the chill fatui we've met via world quests arnt necessarily "canon" cause people could have never done those and gotten to this point. though paimon and the traveler need to learn not to judge a book by its cover, thats discrimination.
If anything it actually is a very interesting parallel to the red scare, which i think is on purpose giving snezhnaya has that russian influence.
When we one day undoubtedly ascend to a god as the traveller, I can't wait for people be like, I met them, they helped me find my keys(cat,snake, rope) or they cooked me a meal! Etc... Its gonna be hilarious.
and Timmie would say the god keeps on killing his birds 😂
"What if they are still in the boxes" HOW DOES HE ALWAYS PREDICT THE FUTURE???
I missed the Charlotte event and got an entire new dialogue during Aquabus scene.
IS GENSHIN A REAL RPG NOW?!
Nowaying
? That's been a thing since 1.1
Furina is such smug brat I love her so much