TOOL's Infamous 1993 Scientology Centre Shows | Maynard James Keenan & David Cross Look Back
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2022
- In 1993 - fresh off the release of their debut EP, 'Opiate,' the year before - TOOL played two shows at the Scientology Centre in Hollywood, California. The concerts have since become the stuff of legend. A young comedian named David Cross first heard about TOOL when he saw an ad for the shows - and not long after, he would welcome singer Maynard James Keenan (fronting a then-fictional band called Puscifer) onto his HBO sketch comedy series 'Mr. Show.' Nearly 30 years later, REVOLVER reunited Cross and Keenan, enlisting the former to interview the latter. In this excerpt from their weird, insightful and hilarious convo, they look back on TOOL's infamous Scientology Centre shows.
Watch the full interview here bit.ly/3HT6IAT and let us know what you think in the comments.
David Cross' new comedy special, 'I'm From the Future,' is out now: bit.ly/3IASo0Y
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I cant get over them playing Opiate at the Scientology Center! Maynard's troll level 1000
If only that came prepared with Eulogy already in the works.
@@ferrisbueller9991 eulogy has nothing to do with Hubbard lol
@@oscarbrittingham-detxemend396 how would you know that?
I love how accessable MJK (and the boys in the band) are these days. They seemed so enigmatic in the past, now there's plenty of videos of them
being regular guys and revealing little parts of themselves. I was always a big fan of the music, now I'm a huge fan of the men making the music. I won't lie though, MJK and all the great things he has done and will do, have me feeling pretty inadequate abt my life. Woulda, coulda and shoulda are a mother fucker. My man is an inspiration to all!
What is ironic is that, ultimately, Scientology supports knowledge of reality (psychic contact with the spirit world). People that attack people socially for no good reason that are a part of Scientology are the ones that get punked for money. The entire church is a punk move against people in pain. They are haters, but they are also upset over not understanding. So yeah, ultimately Maynard is in the right for calling them out. The entire concept of “body thetans” and “going clear” is a reference to psychic mediumship and telepathy. The rest of the doctrine is used to swindle people for money. It’s trashy.
Tom Cruise is the producer of the Mission Impossible movies. I have no doubt he was responsible for this dialogue: ua-cam.com/video/DyxyQ8Zd3qg/v-deo.html
I love that David found Tool instead of Scientology lol
It's great to see Maynard not be standoffish in an interview or actually wanting to talk about Tool for a change. David's probably one of the only people who could have gotten that result so Cheers to him.
Ahhh they probably child traffic together 🤣
They’ve known each other since the days of Mr. Show. Maynard opened up to Joe Rogan too.
I agree it’s nice to hear him actually talk to the interviewer.
@@lfrankow It took a while for him to open up to Joe. First interview wasn't as open as the rest.
@@lfrankow I wish Joe would host more down to earth people like Maynerd instead of all these political nutjobs.
maybe it's because people miss quote him and try to make him look like an ass so he dosent do them.
he doesn't have to do them his music is gonna sell either way.
I had a buddy in college write a paper on Scientology and he went on one of those free tours in the Hollywood center. He said before the tour they had made very clear there were rooms and sections of the building that were totally and completely off limits. Pete being Pete, went off trail and walked into one of them room’s… for the sake of time I’ll leave it at that, but he actually got caught, held at gun point, and they basically said he was lucky they were letting him leave. To this day if he even hears about someone being in the vicinity that practices Scientology, he goes into damn near anxiety attack mode and will let it be known he doesn’t want to be in the same room as them. Pete’s my old old friend, you can startle him, sure, but to scare him is a bit more of a challenge. He hears “Scientology “ and you can physically see his wheels start spinning. Off topic, I’ve met Maynard a few times. He was once a part of my uncle’s band Green Jelly/Green Jello (after the getting sued thing).
Green Jello was awesome!
I remember rocking out to Green Jello back in the day. My older brother introduced them to me. Such a great, underrated band!
He should have followed the rules. Wtf did he thin would happen? It's literally a cult lol
@@ButterBallTheOpossum eh if you knew Pete you’d know. He’s a genuine searcher. He’s the type to try heroin specifically because he’s been told to never try heroin (just a metaphor, he never went down that road, but you can’t simply tell him what to think, he wants to know why to think it, and in the end possibly find why that thought process is either completely viable or completely false) so they actually made the mistake of stipulation before the tour, at least with him. But two mistakes were made that day. They told the wrong one not to go off trail, and he never believed that going off said trail would ultimately end with a gun in his face by two men in black types. It’s weird though as that particular incident set him on his ending path in life. He had multiple interests and changed majors and minors eleventeen times in college, but he and I actually met in self defense classes when we were like 7 years old. I kept with it and became an instructor and after the military , Pete, being Pete, went to college and wondered through trying to find his own personal love (if you love what you do then it’s not really work, it’s just doing what you love with the added benefit of getting paid to do it) anyway AFTER the Scientology thing, he did graduate, but he went simply with a master’s degree in education, he taught at a high school for awhile in Los Angeles, but wanted to get back into self defense after his altercation with those cult fools in Hollywood. I realize that this description of my idiot friend is getting long so for the sake of time I’ll try to shorten it up, NOW, he certifies civilians from San Diego/Los Angeles/Orange County to carry firearms and also teaches new CCW holder’s “under stress “ training at a very popular Gun Range in Stanton California. He found his way back to self defense/firearm/Wado Ryu (the derivative of Karate we’re both involved in) because of those freaks at the Hollywood Scientology center 20+ years ago. Long winded message? He’s a 3rd degree black belt, trained in Silat knife fighting flow, and certified gun fighter… this highly dangerous person, to this day is STILL scared of Scientology and those who practice it. I am so sorry to go into such great detail, but you said it perfectly. They’re a cult. That’s it and that’s all!
@Edward Elizabeth Hitler awesome! Three little pigs is a classic but man I lose my shit when I hear the “bear song” 🤣
I'm just so glad to hear Maynard, himself, verify what he thinks about Scientology.
I thought it was pretty evident already?
"Fuck L Ron Hubbard and fuck all his clones" was pretty definitive
@@all_invite_0hm I only say this because of the rumors that you see online. I really didn't want to believe them, and suspected it was bullshit. Just never know sometimes.
@@LandonShipman-iDzynes the line "fuck L. Ron Hubbard and fuck all his clones" didn't make it clear enough?
@@all_invite_0hm yea when they say in AENIMA "Phuk L Ron Hubbard and Phuk all his clones" I think its pretty evident.
Playing Opiate at the Scientology Centre, HAHA
"anybody with a decent high school education could walk in and be like, whoa you're full of shit." Damn LOL
And that's where he's just flat out wrong. Intelligence has literally nothing to do with it. It's about levels of perception and ability to be manipulated/hypnotized. So a totally educated and "otherwise intelligent" person can totally fall prey to these kinds of things, while some slackjawed yokel can see right through it. In fact, it's very likely you're experiencing this firsthand. If you still think there's a deadly pandemic going around, guess what? Scientology could have very easily happened to you.
yep!
Remember people religion is free. Scientology is neither.
and both are a hoax
You can't disprove any religion. I can disprove scientology pretty easily.
@@bennett420316 because it is not a religion it is a cult. You can have a cult on just about anything including atheism, like the personality cults of the Kim's in North Korea and a number of other communist rulers prove.
@@bennett420316 I mean you will know exactly how true religion is when you die.
Lol nice
A few years ago I did some volunteer work for a foundation that helps people get out of Scientology and had to quit as it put me on their radar and they were trying to find out where I live and stuff about my kid. I started getting strange emails on my personal email and then some calls and texts. I miss doing the work, but my kiddo's safety comes first. Glad to know what Maynard's stance is on the cult.
They’ll look through your garbage as well. They did the to Trey Parker and Matt Stone of South Park to try to blackmail them. Fortunately they found nothing.
I used to work in Boston for the Church of Scientology and got people in to take those personality tests on Newbury Street (The Center was down the road in Beacon), and I had figured out fairly quickly that is was a bullshit organization, but I was still hoping for a paycheck (another story). On one occasion I was left alone in the room with the machine that scores those tests. I wanted to try to see if I could get it to give an actual 'good' score. Nope, no matter what I fed it, there was always an issue with you.
47 years old. Grew up in Somerville and Wilmington and I never knew there was a Scientology center in Boston until now. I’ve been in that area a million times haha.
I can't believe anyone would believe anything they say? I read l Ron Hubbard books too, because I was curious about the cult
@@Dog-O They had a brownstone in Back Bay but they also owned that huge rundown hotel in the South End on Mass Ave.
Lol. One glance tells you the whole org is a sick joke...
Shit, we got tricked into a test at that very center while visiting a friend and Berklee. They told one of our group they thought he had the potential to be a serial killer. I'll never get that 2 hours back but in a sense I'm glad I tried it.
David Cross: “So did you go to the gift shop?”
Maynard: “I can’t remember where I was because they took us to the dungeon to hear the screamings.”
I don’t know about you but, I believe him.
😆 🤣
I got kicked out at the Scientology place in Hollywood lol they realized we were all drunk when taking the test 😂 lady’s European accent suddenly changed to American when she realized and called for security haha
I used to protest an org in Manhattan with a bunch of people about a decade and a half ago. The best thing we ever did was put someone in a speedo. Covered him in Vaseline and pubes (everyone saved them for a month😆) and then he ran into the Scientology building. They freaked the fuck out and couldn't touch him to remove him from the building, loll
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 I have a Scientology building about a half mile from me. You're giving me ideas 😆
That's awesome that you got staff out of their character. lol
@@TeamVenture88 😆 do it
@@TeamVenture88 just be careful, they are EXTRA quick to try to claim harassment these days and if you really piss them off, they will target you and aggressively attempt to destroy you..
I took the personality test one time. My result was Cold Blooded and Heartless! The guy said I really needed help that I really needed scientology but I told him that I was certain my result would have made my Drill Instructor proud. Then I went and drank about 20 beers.
🤣
I read Dianetics before I went in the military. Was a trip. Bunch of nonsense.
My man hoorah!!!
Givem the cold steel, Toefelhunden!
Congratulations, but I hope the beer thing didn't last. It's no more of a friend than Scientology.
I've always loved David Cross... But now knowing he's a friend of Maynard, I love him even more.
You might already know this, but Maynard and Adam were on David’s old show, Mr. Show with Bob and David, back in the early 90s. They appeared as ‘Puscifer’.
They're old friends...
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@@a_random_voice_in_the_void I'm pretty sure Maynard is in Run Ronnie Run. It's a night scene where Ronnie is caught hiding and for whatever reason Maynard gets arrested with him. Bob and David didn't like how that movie turned out but it still makes me laugh.
@@TheCrazyCanuck420
Maynard wasn't in the Movie
but he was in the Ronnie
sketch on Mr. Show.
In like a chicken coup covered in white powder... it's on UA-cam.
@@skelter1153 ah ya you are right, as you can see I haven't watched either in a while 😀
Maynard is the most badass nerd in all of music!
Just saw TOOL last night. 3rd time seeing them and they never disappoint. 🤘
Saw them a few weeks ago. Fantastic set list this time around too
Woah. I wish they would visit Ukraine some day, or Europe at least. Hope to live long enough to see them live.
Saw them for the umteenth time since the mid 90’s they’re just as awesome now as they were in 96 Maynard is fuckin amazing.
@@TheKitMurkit they have european tour in april and may
@@adorosso yeah but I somehow think they'll be missing Ukraine this year.
It's cool to see Maynards' personality shine through a little bit.
I was there for night two! I was 17yrs old and that was my first “rock” concert… until then I had only listened to rap music and this was all I needed to open my eyes to other music. I actually was listening to Opiate this morning so it’s funny this video popped up - they’re listening 🤣
No u weren’t. U weren’t there. We all know.
They are listening.
@@johnjones.3427 are they, Is that what they’re doing, listening ?
@@jst2889 you don't think so?
@@johnjones.3427 no. I don’t
Someone needs to raid all of scientologys holdings and investigate them
Fun fact: Faith No More's song Land of Sunshine contains some of the Oxford test as well as some fortune cookie fortunes as lyrics. Great song!
I worked at a restaurant that did a catering for the Church of Scientology in Clearwater at Fort Harrison. Another waiter (Steve) and I agreed to go find a spot to smoke, took the elevator to the top floor. When the elevator doors opened, there were two men standing directly in front of the elevator, exactly how he described, guns and all. We immediately lied and said that we were looking for the Banquet Room.
FUN FACT: The very same waiter (Steve) put an appetizer down in front of the ceremonial chair reserved for L. Ron Hubbard.
Steve and I didn't do anymore caterings after that.
Damn why you gotta call out Steve like that
@@chefboyardee2223 WTF? You act like I mentioned his last name WINKLER!
You should have seen the faces of all the big-wigs sitting at the head table when Steve put that appetizer down in front of L.Ron's ceremonial chair/throne. 🤣🤣🤣
@@thatsitvideos How obvious was it that it was a place of honor like did have like a goddamn throne or something?
@@chefboyardee2223
It was exactly that, a fricking throne. Even had a rope suspended between the two armrests as to prevent anyone from attempting to sit in it. It stood out like a sore thumb. Steve did it on purpose. You had to be brain dead not to know who's chair it was.
This was back in the early 90s and we took every opportunity to take a jab at the "Clears".
Basically as dangerous as the hood
This show is so infamous among Tool circles, love the insight and the humorous takes by them.
Maynard has been my most favorite male vocalist since i was 12 Years old. I am nos 42. The mind and the voice such unbelivable power in both. Loved the interview.
Same, except I was 22 (side stage of Lolla '93) and now I'm 52. Still a huge fan of ALL things MJK. Thank god my husband is, too; this allows me/us to go to ridiculous lengths to catch shows and whatnot!
Same I first saw them at Lolla 97 fell in love with Maynard I finally got to see puscifer to complete my mjk band shirts collection lol was amazing
Damn, I'm old😢
@@sheydoll oh hell no! You are like a fine wine baby! Only getting better with age!
@@DawnDiggetyNoDoubt awwww shucks
Tool and pink floyd are for me the onlly band wich i can listen to them evry day multiple times from song to song they never beacome boring
You try learning to spell words..with all that free time
@@jeremyhilton6 🤣 that killed me
@@jeremyhilton6 give him a breek,, heez been busy listenning too tol and pynk.floid .. everyday damnit.. lejendairy
My 2 favorite bands also!
You should give opeth a try
Those Scientology personality tests are hilarious. The first time I took one it was the "on the street", which is an abridged version to get you in the door.
They handed me the cans and the second "question" (it was actually a statement) was, okay, I want you to think of a person that stresses you out and think about how they make you feel." Then they wiggles some dials and the needle jumped. So the woman giving the test says, "Well, it looks like you felt a lot stress when I asked you that, why do you think that is?"
I laughed, said, "Why does thinking about a person that stresses me out stress me out?" and walked away.
Rational thinking, (AKA, COMMON SENSE) "1" ......, bait and switch cult scumbags? BIG FREAKING ZERO , good on ya, bro. 😉 😎
The woman giving you the test was stressing me out...
You had me at, "They handed me the cans..."
Holy crap! I did not know how much I needed this convo between these two.
Well,
If I wanted to listen to David Cross interview himself this was great.
lol
Yeah, I thought Maynard was going to be the one interviewed, guess I was wrong
David Cross has several bits on Scientology, that's why Maynard wanted to discuss this with him. Highly recommend watching/listening to all of his stand up. He's a genius.
idk what you expected out of that guy
Fair enough, but there's a pretty solid overlap of Tool and Mr. Show fans from the 90s.
Born into Scientology in Washington DC 1970s.My father was a sperm donor. My mother told me Children's org was created for me because as a single mother she had to bring me on sessions. I'm born " clear" I can remember training sessions with adults. I was made to sit and stare into the trainer's eyes without fidgeting, looking away, smiling, talking or breaking eye contact. Then clay model abstract concepts and my mother chose to never tell me the word " No"There is also a reader needle to show the trailer if youve gotten an emotional response. with the emotional readout, they can tell what topics upset you. Or give you what's called an" engram". Basically a command on a deep instinctive level you are programmed with. This really angered my mother. To this day you will not beat me in a stare-down. Im ice cold ^-^I would do this to authority figures as a child and into my teen yrs.. I thought I was an adult. I attended Montessori school age 3 too and I was hyperlexic. She left Scientology when my mother was about to join sea org. We moved constantly then finally off the grid where I was homeschooled. She was that paranoid. The ridiculousness of the lower-tier stuff is perfect really. Most people stay away and the flakey and mentally ill go into it. Where they can be milked of money and brainwashed.
As a huge fan of both of these people, the entire interview is great.
Their symmetry knows no bounds so close to perfection of raw emotion .
I'd honestly love to hear more celebrity experiences with Scientology. Pretty interesting.
Pull up the mini-series that Leah Remini did about Scientology. She played Carrie on King of Queens. It’s very eye opening, you find out pretty quick that Scientology is complete and total bullshit
I could listen to these kind of stories all day.
My two favorite ppl! I saw Maynard on the road near Jerome and was having a heart attack but respectfully checked myself. Best day of my life, kinda pathetic I know but so awesome
Saw Tool in 93 at the Big Mele on Oahu. Outstanding show.
Great interview. The only thing I know about Scientogy is what I've learned from Southpark
Opiate one of the best albums of all time. The live performances from this show. Absolutely amazing
Nope, EP. Now UNDERTOW...that is one of the very best albums ever made.
Back in the day I bought two records from bands I'd never heard or heard of before. One was Helmet's 'Strap It On', the other was Tool's 'Opiate'. That was a pretty good day.
This should be a 12 part docu series! 10 minutes of casual “oh yea, we played here” is not enough!
“Are you happy David? Are you happy? Really though, are you really happy?” 😂 Experience,speaking there.
My friends listened to Tool for years and were obsessed with them. I enjoyed it, same with Primus, and years later, as with Primus, all of a sudden something clicked, and my Bob Dylan music mind finally understood Tool, as I did Primus, belatedly, and I love them now
I was there the first night. He's a thousand percent right about the sound.
It's a shame that I'll never hear a story that starts with: "so, G.G. Allin walks into a Scientology center...
Hahaha yeah that gets the imagination flowing I'll admit
One of my favorite shows of all time was Mr. Show, I remember when Maynard was on the show, it was hilarious.
Such an underrated/brilliant show. I remember watching every episode with my cousin when we were teenagers. My favorite episode was with the taint magazine skit. “Fuck yeah that wide!”
“Coupon” the Movie!!
RONNIE DOBBS, RONNIE DOBBS!
RIP Wally P. Doyle
my mother would walk by and say like a brooding villain, "...that SHOW again." Haha it is pretty annoying to overhear if you are mostly into gardening and Andy Garcia.
never thought id see Ian Hawke interviewing Maynard about scientology
David, Maynard, you guys are hilarious. Love you!
Maynard trolling Scientology! Lofl how fucking perfect!! I’m gonna sleep better tonight knowing this has happened!!!
Seeing you guys in Edmonton a few years ago, while on mushrooms was one of the top 5 experiences of my life.
Seeing a band and taking mushrooms was one of my top five life experiences
Wow
Alright, you've tickled Pandora's box....what's the other 4?
@@Russellsagecline
"tickled Pandora's box" 🌈
@@lockandloadlikehell you got it, haha...
I could use 3 to 4 hours of this sort of conversation
Good shit
This interview would have caused a meltdown 20 years ago, still nice to hear reason in season
Yeah, I also took their 'personality test' back in the very early 90's, and the guy came back to me and said, "you're pretty screwed up." And yet, they still wanted to sign up... WTF! Tells you that their standards of recruitment are pretty dang low... they just want the money.
The Dina Martina mug is the true mark of Maynard's awesomeness!
Yes! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
❤Dina Martina is my cult leader❤
Maynard's strategically placed Dina Martina mug!
😍😍😍
This is one of the best things I've ever seen.
Wtf my two favorite people ever having a conversation? This is awesome!
My mother became a Scientologist within a couple years of the formation of the church. I grew up in a Scientologist house with Scientology posters on the wall and an e-meter on the kitchen table. I did the earliest and lowest levels of Scientology courses. I think it was what $30 can get you and that was $310 first level courses. Even as a kid I could recognize that insane level of b******* going on and my mother who was striving to become clear wasted so much of our family's money that even though I was a middle class kid I grew up lower middle class because of the constant flow of cash from our family to the church. My mom was so deep into it that nothing could have ever pulled her out. She believed in all of it and talked it up among her befuddled neighbors and even the cashiers of the grocery store. She was a member in good standing from around 1960 till her death in 98. One of the longest active members of the Church of all time.
Wow....It's interesting how one person can buy into something that someone else, even a close relative, can immediately detect as garbage. Thankfully, people can change over time. In my case, I got roped into an extreme movement of Catholicism as a young (impressionable) adult. Took upwards of 20 years to finally admit I don't have - and don't want to have - any faith.
@@franciskhoury4288 are you talking about Opus Dei?
@@bookaufman9643 No, I was involved a movement of what are called "covenant communities". I remember hearing about Opus Dei, but never looked into it.
@@franciskhoury4288 there was a big movement starting 20 25 years ago in the Catholic Church to get back to basics especially after the mass was changed from Latin to English. I would say that what you were involved in was a borderline called. I mean all religions are cults by their nature that's not a knock on religious just what the definition of occult is but some of the warning signs is how much impact it has on your daily life and how easy it is to get out of it. Scientology wants their monthly donation no matter whether you're using the facilities and trying to become an operating Satan or not you have to send them a check. It's also well outside of established Christianity which is another reason that it's considered a cold. There are huge issues if you try to leave and you are definitely shunned by everybody who's still involved. It kept us poor my entire childhood so while my mother was taking $1,000 courses we had to eat our lunch through government tokens because we couldn't afford to pay for it. This was in That 70's and 80s and at that point my dad was probably making $45,000 a year and we live pretty cheaply so there should have been plenty of leftover money but they barely even had a bank account. I have nothing but anger and disgust with Scientology and it's sci-fi creator l Ron hubbard. I hope your Catholic Church stuff is right and at least his case because he's definitely going to be burning in hell in my book.
@@bookaufman9643 Even though you never believed in it yourself, your experience in Scientology was much, much worse than what I endured as a card-carrying member of a "cultish" Catholic movement. I got into religion on my own (yes, I was lured in by peers, but I chose it). It was not a hand dealt to me through family or anything else. So, when I left it, nobody could do anything to keep me in. I realize that's very UNLIKE Scientology. But I did see some shitty stuff that was fostered by the groups I was involved with, especially where fathers were encouraged to be abusively tough on their kids.
Could sit and listen to his crazy antics for hours
I love Tool, and i love David Cross and his comedy and roles. Love for both = increased by 10000%.
I found Tool when Aenima was released and my first Tool concert was 1998 at the San Jose State Event Center and Maynard came out in a white suit as reverend Maynard and about 5 songs with that suit on he tore it off at the center and was wearing a bra with fake breasts in it and boxers for the rest of the show. Definition of rock star. that's it.
nope, anti rock star. Tool were musicians.
@@joesmith9216 most rock stars are definitionally musicians (Milli Vanilli and the like aside, corporate bs doesn't count as actual music imo), tf are you on about??
@@anguishedcarpet are fucking poison musicians????
Can't wait till Friday the 18th! St Louis show. I've seen tool 9 times but my wife never has. We've been to APC, Puscifer, and now Tool to close the trilogy
See you there!
the ending comment about astrology lmao TRUE
I actually went to one of those. I've only ever been to like 15 concerts total in my life. My friend was in the music industry (Rep for Atlantic?). I don't remember much of the show, it was just them doing some songs. But it's neat that I was there, so sharing. I do remember his spine tattoo which, at the time was unique, now not so much.
This conversation is the meaning of life.
My fav comic talking to my fav singer its like total mind fuck
@@bennett420316
Or, how about - Mindgasm
Much better then a mind fuck.
@@G0thFarmer Agreed!
I expected more from the meaning of life and from this interview.
@@justincoleman3805
Everybody expects more from the meaning of life...
And, most are just continually disappointed by the reality until they die.
Life is what you make it, give it meaning or don't, you only get so much time to work with, tho.
I say enjoy everything, it's all the meaning, cause the meaning is to experience what we can before we die.
Sorry, I kinda meant for that to be more upbeat... I'm kinda bummed atm...
Maynard still cool AF.
"What's a Scientology band like?" lmao.
I remember when I was a teenager looking for a job in the 80s. I went to an *interview for office work and it ended up being a recruitment for Scientology. This is how they brainwash you. LOVE Maynard, Tool, A Perfect Circle, and Pusifier! Maynard is an absolute genius and was exposing Scientology before Leah Remini. Just glad Scientology has been exposed!
My dad was an Electrical contractor, He did all the Electrical for the Scientology compound in Hemit. He told me those dudes were worse than the Mafia, And never ever work for them. Glad they didn't kill my favorite band :-)
used to live in Hemet. Lot of people go to Gold Base (it's outside of San Jacinto, the other side of the valley from hemet) and never come back. They ship people in and out from there in buses and have them go door to door, giving out free copies of Dianetics (A book by Hubbord). I think I had 3 copies at one point, they practically forced you to take them. They would always try to get me on one of the bus to get a "personality test" done at Gold Base.. it was very cult Indoctrination feeling
David Cross plus Maynard plus Scientology equals best interview ever
I'm praying for tidal waves
"...followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits"
😷+💉=🤖
Maynard is a fucking Legend!!
the KISS Pinball in Maynards bg is wicked cool and just another layer of his coolness to add to the cool scale
I first saw Tool in 1993 in Michigan, after I moved from my native California. I met Maynard almost two decades later after a Puscifer show.
Wine was involved. And the Wine Witch.
This is necessary
This is necessary
This is necessary
Life feeds on life
Feeds on life feeds on life
Most skippable track
Ex scientologist here. Every time I hear the words "fuck l Ron Hubbard, and fuck all his clones." I feel great. Because it's so true. It is truly sad that it's considered a religion. It ruined my family, it fucked me up. So yeah, tool fucking rocks.
I can't imagine how hard that must of been & I have a ton of respect for you. People have no idea how hard it is to leave a high control group especially if you're born into it.
@@Loopsrainforest Especially when you don't know how critical thinking works. What's true, what isn't. I'm away from it. But my mom and dad aren't sadly. Thank you for your understanding though. People need to be aware of predatory cults and corrupt companies. All of them are wolf's in sheep's clothing.
I’m surprised you guys don’t wear Nikes.
@@CenobiteBeldar Surprisingly, a lot of scientologist are from many countries. They have churches in Russia, Germany, Italy, Canada, Mexico, England, Ireland, you name it. Some of members are from Yale, Harvard, etc. There are a lot of successful people who have been apart of scientology since the 50s when it first started. But, they don't have critical thinking skills to discern the difference between truth, and lies. They use a lot of manipulative tactics that keep people in. They have had FBI, investigate them. They've even had CIA intervene from what I've been told. But they have never been proven guilty. They are essentially the mob. They make Jim Jones look like child's play. Luckily I've done my best to stay away from it. But I've lost a lot of good friends making that decision. They were never mean to me, just people trying to succeed in life. Sadly that's what they believe is their key to success. It's truth and lies perfectly blended together.
Wow! This takes me back! In '93, I was living on Tamarind, just steps away from the Celebrity Center!!!
Maynard is crazy. That sounds so good.
This was where Maynard first heard the cries of the carrots.
Let the rabbits wear eyeglasses
It is their holocaust.
That coffee mug😅❤
Who is that?
Enya
Looks like Dina Martina from one the annual Xmas Shows. Seattle legend.
Drag performance artist who is main character in Puscifer's Bohemian Rhapsody cover.
Maynard is good to listen to if he's in the right mood for chatting.Love his work,very smart man as are Tool and the other members.Vicarious is my favourite Tool song,listen to the words,fuckin true story.
I love that Maynard has a Dina Martina mug right in front of the camera
That face when you remember that Maynard was on Mr. Show.
i was at Tools first show..... Bill's(green jello)place in Hollywood. New years.... now the year is fuzzy..... woke up after the cops poked me with their night sticks on the sidewalk, got up and stole a van at 3am...... I loved living in LA at that time.
Damn dude that’s wild
Stole a van? Lame.
Had one of those personality tests by being tricked into thinking it was just something fun to do (I was only 18 at the time). When I got there and realised it was for Scientology I did the same thing as Maynard and chose the most extreme answer each time. The guy did exactly like Cross said and tried to use the results to manipulate me, but had no answer when I told him his assessment was 💯% what I felt would keep me happy and that I definitely had no desire to change.😁
I want to see this WHOLE interview!
Were??? How???
Here!>>>> ua-cam.com/video/5yQS204RJjY/v-deo.html
Maynard James Keenan such a cool human being
He treat his fans like shit
"Cool" is a weird way to spell
"Borish cunt"
@@wilhathaway1987 really how
@@wilhathaway1987 Oh does he? Please explain how, because he doesn’t.
Was the tour guide Tom Cruise?
No he was overlooked for that job.
@@marcelboogaard3809 too short.
@@marcelboogaard3809 too rich too
@@allenschmitz9644 too rich too
For already existing fans of Mr. Show (David Cross and Bob Odenkirk) Maynard makes an appearance as Puscifer during the Ronnie Dobbs sketch
I wonder what John Lurie's Lounge Lizards ? could have done as they are an instrumental jazz group, though if it was John's band I'm sure he may have added some commentary^^
like astrology lmaooooo
Yes exactly like
I remember these freaks coming after me for knowing some secrets when I didn't subscribe to this star sign jibber jabber
Dangerous
Lmaooooookkkkkkkkkkokkkkkk
This was mildly disappointing. Clearly David Cross wasn't at any of those show. I was. There was much to talk about and yes everything about it was weird. The opening act, the Lounge Lizards, appeared to have a public meltdown during their set. The front man was going off on scientology and his bandmates were clearly not on board with his rant. At one point, one of the other guys in the band told him to shut up. In the audience, the atmosphere was tense also. Back then a lot of those shows would draw a crowd that consisted of skinheads on one side and longhairs on the other. It wouldn't take long for brawls to break out. Some guy stage dived (dove?) wearing a motorcycle helmet which only encouraged people in the crowd to beat him on the head as hard as possible until he was finally dragged out, poor guy. The sound was terrible and reverberating cuz of all the glass just like Maynard said. But in spite of all that, it was a pretty awesome set by Tool and I had great time. Probably one of their best early performances.
Those are words
better story telling than cross
The Cult didn’t play that show.
@@justincoleman3805 Haha!
It was Love Jones who opened the show. I'm the bass player, and we got in trouble a lot in those days. We were getting threatened on both sides of the stage, and our lead singer didn't quite understand that we might get the whole show shut down...not just us getting thrown out. We did get thrown off the premises...BUT, we also got offered our record deal with Zoo Entertainment (Tool's label) in the parking lot. So, it all worked out. Maynard's told this story, in different amounts of detail, a few times and got our name correct. They were always great to us, so he can call us what he wants.
I got a Scientology guy who knocked on my door so angry his pal dragged him off.
I was there. I frequently tell people that was the loudest (painfully loud) show I ever saw!
I love the Deana Martina mug.
I thought it was Paula Poundstone 🤣
I misspelled it. It’s Dina Martina.
@@sstaners1234 doesn't affect my reaction in any way but thanks for the update. I wouldn't have noticed
Tool is and always will be one of the greatest bands that ever existed, the fact that I saw them almost front row a few years ago in the bay area for less then a hundred dollars shows you how awesome this band is, they care about the art and the fans its not about greed and money.
I was across the street at the Bourgeoisie Pig (coffee shop), could see people going nuts over there
This is the most surreal thing I've heard in a while
Cults are scary in their manifest stupidity. Tool and the Lounge Lizards on the other hand, fantastic. 😂🤙🏼♥️
You don’t like The Cult?
Cults indoctrinate the downtrodden and at risk people in our society. I fundamentally loathe everything cults stand for but I have nothing but pity for the people who get caught up in the web of deceit. Makes me thankful towards my parents for raising me in a intellectually stimulating environment.
By the time I heard of Scientology I was about 17 and had already given up completely on the established "normal' cults like Christianity and Judaism and Hinduism blah blah blah. My immediate reaction was, "oh look, it's the new 1980s self-help version of Jesus LMAO" (I didn't realize then it had already been around for a couple decades).
I understand if unfortunate kids are brought up in that kind of madness beyond their own control, and it's no surprise that it attracts the mentally ill and badly abused, but to this day it astounds me that supposedly sane grown adults, many with fine modern educations and "real" jobs, still fall for it on their own. Any of it, any religion. It's really kind of depressing.
Maynard’s ceiling looks cool AF! Looks like that “gigantradome “ building Tesla designed out by the Joshua tree/ Mesa/ x9 palms area… I went T and had a crystal bowl soundbath and performed a solo classical Bach set in there. The reverberation was a trip, but the electrical aliens did not ignite the space engine… (wait; thought I was on Yelp for a minute
Lounge Lizards, The Residents, Robert Wyatt solo, Merzbow, or anything by Merideth Monk is how you clear out the bar at closing time.
I took the Scientology test out of curiosity and for the kicks, and I recall a good number of the questions being about getting nervous ticks. Do you sometimes / always / never get the shivers / ticks in situation x or y or z. And I mean a strangely high number. As if "Ah, they only get nervous ticks in 4 out of 15 situations so that's OK / weird". They took my answers behind a screen to process through a computer for several minutes, because it was no doubt a complex analysis. They then treated the results as if they were top secret and would only show me a meaningless graph they printed out with a line curving up and down but no defined axes which, I suppose, made it super scientific, while an avuncular guy in a cardigan expressed concern about me having behaviour patterns that apply to every human being in existence but psychopaths.
I remember that show because I was....power-washing the sidewalk at Celebrity Center cus you know I was a dumbass for not only joining Scientology but also joining the Sea Org. I didn't know who was Tool at the time. I was kicked out of Scientology's Sea Org for what they said was attempted suicide but I was actually smoking a cig on the balcony of one of the top floors. The next incident would be in Clearwater, Florida where I was kicked out for bringing a loaded weapon on Scientology property. Which I didn't mind getting kicked out or as they put it declared as a suppressive person. Believe me being on their property worked out for me since Clearwater had no jurisdiction but I did surrender to them and got probation and lol counseling from a Scientologist which was my Uncle. God the horror stories.