Very loaded. Question depends on about a million factors. Pioneer has front locker but talon has more suspension, articulation and more power and clears larger tire stock. But that's just the start of the conversation
@MudPuppyOffroad okay I'm about to get a 2024 1000-5 Pioneer I think... just wanted to make sure I wasn't leaving myself open to a disappointment on the trails/ mud holes from what I can tell you lose top speed performance which I'm not really looking and some comfort, I just need to keep up with everyone else... with the pioneer I would gain a front Locker and extra storage room at the cost of comfort and speed... about right? Any other draw backs I should take into account? Do you have any buyer remorse after swapping to pioneer from talon?
Debating between a pioneer 520 or spending the extra and getting a talon 1000r. P5 will be on portals the day i get it and both will be on 33” aztexs. Mostly sloppy mud. Opinions?
You really couldn't pick two more different machines. I don't even know where to start with that. The little Pioneer has essentially no suspension and is very three wheel drive. The Talon has great power but is about three and a half wheel drive LOL
I don’t understand why you haven’t just built a Honda 300 with custom control arms and went irs in the rear and then stretched it and put some portals and a tranny reduction. And run some 47-54 bkts yet.
It's a pretty simple reason that's not the right platform to do that with. The Rubicon has more power better gearing options and a front locking differential from the factory. Also I don't really build stupid big stuff like that because I don't just drive from one mud hole to the next I also have to cover a lot of ground and do trails
Just got a new Pioneer...Thanks for the fun!
I love how it’s all Honda lol we have two pioneers and I’m probably gonna get a new talon as well
Pioneers are awesome rigs
Great video as always man! I gotta get the my Pioneer down there soon!
How is the new 2022 dash/screen holding uo to the water?
My p1k dash still works
which is the better for the mud pioneer or talon and which
You go where I normally go
Do they have more drag than the pioneer?
All your buddies that bought talons because all your build videos are now wanting pioneers lmao
Most people still prefer the t a l o n it looks better and it rides smoother at higher speeds and the seats are much more comfortable
I want both lol have talon have had p500 want a p1000
What cell phone mount do you have?
Ram mount
Pioneer just as good in mud as talon?
Very loaded. Question depends on about a million factors. Pioneer has front locker but talon has more suspension, articulation and more power and clears larger tire stock. But that's just the start of the conversation
@MudPuppyOffroad with same size tires which does better in say hollowpaw? Doing water hole crossings? Does talons edge over pioneer matter?
@@ptgtdcr Holopaw is easy off-roading both do well
@MudPuppyOffroad okay I'm about to get a 2024 1000-5 Pioneer I think... just wanted to make sure I wasn't leaving myself open to a disappointment on the trails/ mud holes from what I can tell you lose top speed performance which I'm not really looking and some comfort, I just need to keep up with everyone else... with the pioneer I would gain a front Locker and extra storage room at the cost of comfort and speed... about right? Any other draw backs I should take into account? Do you have any buyer remorse after swapping to pioneer from talon?
@@ptgtdcr I wouldn't buy a five-seater. Back seats are trash. Get a six-seater
Man I need to go back out to hollow paw
Whats the setup please?
How am I supposed to know what side by side you're talking about man there's a bunch in this video
Debating between a pioneer 520 or spending the extra and getting a talon 1000r. P5 will be on portals the day i get it and both will be on 33” aztexs. Mostly sloppy mud. Opinions?
You really couldn't pick two more different machines. I don't even know where to start with that. The little Pioneer has essentially no suspension and is very three wheel drive. The Talon has great power but is about three and a half wheel drive LOL
Talon all the way!! P500 is great on 50” trails but talon is just way way way more fun and comfortable and not as slow or clunky sounding
I don’t understand why you haven’t just built a Honda 300 with custom control arms and went irs in the rear and then stretched it and put some portals and a tranny reduction. And run some 47-54 bkts yet.
It's a pretty simple reason that's not the right platform to do that with. The Rubicon has more power better gearing options and a front locking differential from the factory. Also I don't really build stupid big stuff like that because I don't just drive from one mud hole to the next I also have to cover a lot of ground and do trails
I love the rev limiter sounds of the pioneer...smh poor poor pioneer
Hehe me too
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Looks like I'd have been stuck all day. Lmao. Thanks for not being the lets spend 2k on a stereo to play bad music guy as well.
I hope to be popular enough to have scammes in my comments