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  • @Milty2001
    @Milty2001 3 роки тому +14494

    I love how arthur with low honor describes how Sean was killed and valued the gold more than what happened but with high honor it tells you how much he cared about Sean

    • @RECTRONSTREAMS
      @RECTRONSTREAMS 3 роки тому +178

      Damn I just realized

    • @Chill_Goat18
      @Chill_Goat18 3 роки тому +680

      I don't like low honor Arthur

    • @Chill_Goat18
      @Chill_Goat18 3 роки тому +571

      The way i see it low honor Arthur doesn't care for anyone but himself and the high honor one wants to save however he can no mather if he dies in the process

    • @benkenobi3364
      @benkenobi3364 3 роки тому +37

      @@Alan-xg4yr I do.

    • @benkenobi3364
      @benkenobi3364 3 роки тому +129

      @@Chill_Goat18 He did care at least about Abigail, Jack and John.

  • @Barce1023
    @Barce1023 3 роки тому +13945

    It’s crazy to see that low honor Arthur planned on possibly surviving, heading out west and dealing with the TB. High honor Arthur knew he was gonna die no matter what.

    • @PHZanoni
      @PHZanoni 3 роки тому +1462

      Really sounds like a totally different person.

    • @mr.whodupri9521
      @mr.whodupri9521 3 роки тому +548

      Really, I'll have to play with low honor all the way thru. Also ending changes depending on where you die.

    • @ManuGlocK
      @ManuGlocK 3 роки тому +492

      Yeah I find that detail interesting, they want you to think that low honor makes you a real survivor outlaw

    • @Puxi
      @Puxi 3 роки тому +767

      @@mr.whodupri9521 I tried it, I can't go low honor, it feels so wrong.

    • @mr.toast5472
      @mr.toast5472 3 роки тому +43

      @@Puxi its easy kill the whole town of valantine

  • @luisabrahamtorrezrodriguez2344
    @luisabrahamtorrezrodriguez2344 2 роки тому +978

    Low honor Arthur has a flat cold voice, while high honor Arthur has a fluctuating warmer voice in every scene

    • @heliax9924
      @heliax9924 2 роки тому +54

      and more calculated voice too for exable in the insist scene in low honnor he keeps he cool says that we got to LET THEM go and stuff while high honnor athur is barelly able to keep his words together

    • @dirtyunclehubert
      @dirtyunclehubert 5 місяців тому

      i was gonna write that now too. also, in the main gameplay, isnt it brilliant how the SAME LINE by roger clark, and i doubt he did the same lines for low or high honor, but nevertheless, his loud gregarious voice is perfect for both. either it sounds like a jolly nice uncle, who enjoys life, or a cynical psychopath who mocks his victims.

  • @areyouthicc9947
    @areyouthicc9947 3 роки тому +3621

    I love the music during the TB walk
    High honor: You’re dying, but there is hope for you to be a better man
    Low honor: You’re damned

    • @rebel876_9
      @rebel876_9 3 роки тому +95

      You can still raise your honor and be a better person so when you said"your dammed " doesn't make any sense it should be "you can still be a better person"

    • @bigg4874
      @bigg4874 3 роки тому +128

      @@rebel876_9 if he continues his evil path he’s damned. Like in real life if author died right then he would have been damned even if he could still change later. It’s not about what you might do it’s about what you’ve done

    • @rebel876_9
      @rebel876_9 2 роки тому +7

      @@bigg4874 k

    • @colorstripes8588
      @colorstripes8588 2 роки тому +16

      Makes sense. If you don't respect people, you don't expect them to respect you and even the game tells you that.

    • @cookies9681
      @cookies9681 2 роки тому +7

      @marty D'ambroseo although he was ruthless and ominous he was still loyal and kinda cared

  • @theNoobmaster69
    @theNoobmaster69 3 роки тому +2535

    "He saved my life and I could not save his," is the most heartbreaking line in this game. Arthur really cared for Keiran in the end. I think most of the gang did.

    • @marianomaza8941
      @marianomaza8941 Рік тому

      When colm died some people felt sympathy
      I felt good, that bastard deserved it

    • @monkey_man_325
      @monkey_man_325 Рік тому +21

      That hit hard fr😢

    • @Alexandrius_Caesar
      @Alexandrius_Caesar Рік тому +154

      I think high honor Arthur always cared about him, just didn’t want to give Kieran the satisfaction of feeling accepted due to him “being an O’driscoll”, however, if you fish with him in chapter 3, you’ll hear Kieran explain his tumultuous upbringing and the loneliness he experienced as a child, and then Arthur proceeds to say, “Well you’ll never have to feel alone ever again. So Arthur always had a soft spot for Kieran. He just couldn’t let himself show it out of pride.

    • @MLGProMaster-tu9tz
      @MLGProMaster-tu9tz Рік тому +26

      @@Alexandrius_CaesarArthur was always a good man at heart, but it was just the life he lived

    • @RoxandDavid
      @RoxandDavid Рік тому +4

      ​@@MLGProMaster-tu9tz Sadly yes...a life of an outlaw.

  • @ShibalotonSeattle
    @ShibalotonSeattle 3 роки тому +7097

    Also during the ride to Strawberry in American Venom mission, Charles would say
    "Revenge is something Arthur would understand" if Arthur's honor was low
    "Do you think Arthur cared about revenge at all?" if Arthur's honor was high

    • @EvanMitsakis
      @EvanMitsakis 3 роки тому +162

      What if he had high honor and went for the money

    • @MariusBoss11458
      @MariusBoss11458 3 роки тому +89

      @@EvanMitsakis Same shit probably.

    • @Bryan-gq3wp
      @Bryan-gq3wp 3 роки тому +191

      @@EvanMitsakis During the walk where Charles and John are walking to get Charles bag before they get ambush depending on your choice if you take the money or not John will say if Arthur took the money or not same thing goes for honor

    • @HereticASSassin
      @HereticASSassin 3 роки тому +93

      But Arthur always said,, Revenge is a fools game'' and he doesn't want John to look back. Arthur sacrifices his live to give John the chance to live.. He knew that looking back would doom him.. And it did.. And Jack didn't learned that Revenge doesn't cure your wounds.
      (Sorry for my grammar i' m not English)

    • @MariusBoss11458
      @MariusBoss11458 3 роки тому +19

      @@HereticASSassin Least for Jack there was no one alive to think that he might get killed too. Only the Mom and Brother. And plus you can kill them so.

  • @isaacacosta9028
    @isaacacosta9028 3 роки тому +6651

    The differences in some diallogues are very specific , but it has his own meaning. Low honor Arthur becomes an angry man and acept that he is a sinner and a hopeless murderer in the last chapter . But with High honor , Arthur instead , learns that besides all of the mistakes he made through his life , he got the opportunity of be a better person, at least in the end

    • @richierich2229
      @richierich2229 3 роки тому +124

      Low honor is more realistic

    • @oxyman10
      @oxyman10 3 роки тому +55

      I went total low honor in my current play through, more fun.

    • @donbianconi8446
      @donbianconi8446 3 роки тому +57

      Idk, I think there are more than just low and high honor impact dialogue. Like specific interactions with camp members. I could be misremembering but I thought I had differences when I played low honor like a dick to everyone, but when I was cool with camp members and low honor.

    • @sleepingcat637
      @sleepingcat637 3 роки тому +79

      Really? Because most people change when they are going to die or see themselves in other people's perspectives. Authur knows he made big mistakes but at least wants to help the people around him. People can change but that doesn't change their past snd he knows that.

    • @anthonyf616
      @anthonyf616 2 роки тому +37

      @@richierich2229 people change when they're literally dying

  • @michaelwood368
    @michaelwood368 3 роки тому +4250

    In the mission on Guarma where you break Javier out of his cell there's another difference. It happens after Dutch strangles the local guidewoman in the caves. If you have high honour Arthur says "Are you going to strangle me next?" and if you have low honour he'll say "Maybe we've all gone rotten"

    • @ruinerofjokes1418
      @ruinerofjokes1418 3 роки тому +542

      And before you climb the ladder, low honor Arthur says "You sure you're alright?" and high honor says "You keep killing folk, Dutch."

    • @MariusBoss11458
      @MariusBoss11458 3 роки тому +90

      I never knew that. I think it's because I've had High Honor there. I dunno why I had High Honor on a Low Honor playthrough. I even said GTFO to the Deer when it appeared.

    • @Denis-kd6cv
      @Denis-kd6cv 2 роки тому +14

      He also says: What are we gonna do now, find another old lady to strangle

    • @thebadwolf3088
      @thebadwolf3088 2 роки тому +32

      @@MariusBoss11458 i love how Arthur just fucking screams "GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!" instead of just shooing them away

    • @tylercouture216
      @tylercouture216 2 роки тому +53

      I never understood why he was mad Dutch strangled the lady she was about to compromise what they had accomplished and she pulled a knife on them demanding more gold/money Dutch gave her money and she was greedy and wanted more

  • @Yackattack22
    @Yackattack22 3 роки тому +2773

    When micha says “we’re the same” he’s kinda right if your low honor, your both trying to survive. But high honor, Arthur is more like Hosea, caring about the others and less about himself

    • @arandomperson401
      @arandomperson401 2 роки тому +161

      In my opinion, low honor Arthur is still not as low as Micah. Arthur is still loyal and somewhat caring, just hidden with a veil of "I'm evil"

    • @appletizer8415
      @appletizer8415 Рік тому +39

      @@arandomperson401 yep, low honor Arthur still feels like he's a lot more honorable than Micah

    • @Hananiah70
      @Hananiah70 Рік тому +63

      ​@@appletizer8415 Low Honor is like dutch, high is like Hosea

    • @troypowers750
      @troypowers750 Рік тому

      Micha?

    • @wecantfightgravity
      @wecantfightgravity Рік тому

      Micah in low honor ending: "You're not better than me, Morgan!"

  • @Frazer2
    @Frazer2 3 роки тому +2963

    I like that walk when Arthur found out He had TB.
    On LH, it was like he was thinking "what didn't I do to deserve this." Than having any real emotions about the fact He is indeed dying, the voices acting more like ghosts manifesting his own self hatred, not even having a single thought of redemption. He's damned, and not much else.
    In HH His emotions are a mess, a HUGE array of them differing and conflicting. This is His last chance, He can't change what He's done, but maybe HE can change. Those voices, are much more hopeful, practically angels saying, "You are on the right path, but you have so much more to do."

    • @actuallytweakin
      @actuallytweakin 3 роки тому +67

      Exactly. The demon on his shoulder and the angel on his shoulder in HH.

    • @theta_clips
      @theta_clips 3 роки тому +8

      Why did you capitalize every "H" in "He"?

    • @actuallytweakin
      @actuallytweakin 3 роки тому +26

      @@theta_clips never question youtube comments, the only thing that makes sense about them is that they don't make sense

    • @mylife1221
      @mylife1221 2 роки тому +15

      @@theta_clips the main protagonist of rdr2 is obviously god

    • @samhunter99
      @samhunter99 2 роки тому

      I always been good Arthur

  • @minsqi
    @minsqi 3 роки тому +7322

    i tried to replay with low honor a few times, but i just can’t. arthur doesn’t deserve that.

    • @kam2611
      @kam2611 3 роки тому +852

      @@richierich2229 false he killed because he needed to back then you had to kill so your “realistic” theory is false

    • @doneme152
      @doneme152 3 роки тому +159

      On my first playthrough I made sure to have a lot of fun so I killed everyone and basically be an asshole, hell I even went for the money instead of helping John

    • @mariomorgan6083
      @mariomorgan6083 3 роки тому +184

      @@kam2611 he didn't need to kill, I would rather die in the street then to to kill many innocent lives for my own benefit. There are people in blackwater and saint denis doing just fine without killing. I mean dude could've just applied for a job or something

    • @redreni4185
      @redreni4185 3 роки тому +11

      @@kam2611 What? no one in this life needs to kill. Arthur deserves to rot in hell its just the simple truth.

    • @krizos5305
      @krizos5305 3 роки тому +30

      same even if i have the urge to massacre innocent ppl happened to me when i was playing John after american venom but with Arthur i just cant play it like a bad man

  • @cableyoutuber
    @cableyoutuber 3 роки тому +3533

    The fact he was still able to put up a good fight against Micah with the TB taking it’s full toll. Shows how strong Arthur is (or how weak the legendary rat is).

    • @BrayHG20
      @BrayHG20 2 роки тому +276

      Legendary rat 😂

    • @moa2466
      @moa2466 2 роки тому +354

      @@codysellers4151 if it werent for dutch arthur wouldve shot him
      Micah was literally beaten by a corpse

    • @thetoastlord5355
      @thetoastlord5355 2 роки тому +100

      Unfortunately unlike most legendary animals, you can't make a hat out of hin

    • @vxu3826
      @vxu3826 2 роки тому +66

      Nah Micah is easily one of the best gunslingers in the entire red dead universe, so it def shows how much of a beast Arthur is

    • @aanarchyy1281
      @aanarchyy1281 2 роки тому +115

      like Arthur says during the fight... "you can't even kill a dying man"

  • @oldsoul1384
    @oldsoul1384 3 роки тому +3769

    Wow, I love how they've customised cutscenes based in honour, it really fits both play styles. Honestly it feels like a movie watching this, and it's amazing how different his personality in these cutscenes are.

    • @G59forlife.
      @G59forlife. 3 роки тому +12

      Cool pfp

    • @oldsoul1384
      @oldsoul1384 3 роки тому +21

      @@G59forlife. cheers, I love Nirvana 😂

    • @Sleepyguy1602
      @Sleepyguy1602 3 роки тому +7

      Nice picture ;)

    • @oldsoul1384
      @oldsoul1384 3 роки тому +6

      @@Sleepyguy1602 ayeeee right back at'cha 🤟

    • @benhood5492
      @benhood5492 2 роки тому +3

      Dang you guys are so cool

  • @2DCelleD
    @2DCelleD 3 роки тому +1804

    It’s crazy how when you confront Strauss with low honour he cares more the fact he sends them after “losers” then the fact he is doing that to innocent people

    • @ctons
      @ctons 2 роки тому +126

      It was actually during that cutscene that I got high honor for the first time in the game.

    • @IceCubeIV
      @IceCubeIV 2 роки тому +2

      Unfortunately he's not wrong, they're absolute losers begging for pennies just for a brute to beat most of them to death. Strauss isn't lending out money to the rich In Saint Denis or anything.

    • @K.Adler1120
      @K.Adler1120 2 роки тому +249

      I love the change in reasoning! High honor Arthur is disgusted that Strauss is making him take from people who have absolutely nothing and he feels sympathy for them, but low honor Arthur is mad at Strauss because he is going out to get absolutely nothing instead of collecting high amounts of debt. So freaking cool

    • @josephstalin2606
      @josephstalin2606 2 роки тому +183

      @@K.Adler1120 Actually I’m pretty sure his reasoning is the same for both, it’s just that he words it differently. High honor Arthur is simply more empathetic than low honor Arthur and more open about it. Low honor Arthur feels the same way but bottles it up and instead gets angry at the entire situation instead of just Strauss

    • @tw--dle
      @tw--dle 2 роки тому +12

      @@josephstalin2606 both make sense. he can either be selfish or- is just losing his self-control and becoming ill-tempered.

  • @dararohan1209
    @dararohan1209 3 роки тому +740

    Low honour Arthur: plans to escape out west and recover from illness.
    High honour Arthur: realises death is inevitable and intends on saving as many people as he can.

    • @crackjeefast
      @crackjeefast Рік тому +13

      bro I played the entire game as high honor (even got the good ending and all visions were with the reindeer) but still during that dialogue Arthur said he plans to escape out west

  • @glb1993
    @glb1993 3 роки тому +2317

    Its funny how when rockstar announced that we would play as Arthur instead of John everyone was upset about it and thought there was no way we would like him then we actually played the game and absolutely fell in love with Arthur's character. This game has been the best story I've ever played, to me at least it's fantastic with so much detail in it.

    • @TheRealDG01
      @TheRealDG01 2 роки тому +81

      I absolutely agree. I’ve never played RDR but I love RDR2 and a high honor Arthur. Emotionally attached to this game for some reason

    • @huh1915
      @huh1915 2 роки тому +18

      IKR. And I was actually really excited to start a new playthrough, because I missed Arthur so much.

    • @glb1993
      @glb1993 2 роки тому +30

      Same here dude I made sure to have a file of Arthur before he gets sick so I can as him always in his prime and don't go forward with the story from that point lol. Love that character it's an emotional attachment to me and many other rdr 2 players out there.

    • @theoutsiderjess1869
      @theoutsiderjess1869 2 роки тому +37

      We had no clue who Arthur is. I didn't even play the first game and said who the hell is this and where is John and when the story ended I said I don't want to play as John I want to play as Arthur

    • @rukitlas7130
      @rukitlas7130 2 роки тому +7

      If rockstars gonna make a new character there going to do it well

  • @rattles8789
    @rattles8789 3 роки тому +1169

    The words Arthur uses in the low honor Cash ending, "You let him damn us all." Hit so damn hard. Even Dutch's reaction is even more sorrowful than on the mountain, the hell of his own creation burning all around him.

    • @godzillazfriction
      @godzillazfriction 2 роки тому +6

      @@Entropic_Meat_Machine well it just goes to show you that low honor arthur is canon or 100% valid.

    • @combinecommando001
      @combinecommando001 2 роки тому +139

      @@Entropic_Meat_Machine Considering High honor on the mountain leaves him completely speechless, a man who normally always has the last word can't even find the words, I'd say he definitely knows he screwed up hard.

    • @theoutsiderjess1869
      @theoutsiderjess1869 2 роки тому +52

      @@combinecommando001 yeah seeing his son die due to his own delusions and paranoia would do that to a man and Arthur telling him he gave him all he had sent that message home it him deeply which is why he came to kill Micah when John does

    • @jackavery3740
      @jackavery3740 2 роки тому

      @@godzillazfriction LH based.

    • @pottymouthstudios9889
      @pottymouthstudios9889 2 роки тому +3

      i didnt know there was a cash ending until i watched this. gotta say ive been sobbing through a lot of it

  • @riotgamerz1605
    @riotgamerz1605 2 роки тому +656

    I love how with the low honor cutscene with Sadie, he mentions her, John and him. But with high honor, he mentions Jack John and Abigail. Meaning he put others before him in high honor, it shows you what Arthur values in both perspectives.

    • @SardonicJosh
      @SardonicJosh 2 роки тому +48

      No, the difference is that LH Arthur planned on helping John, and then escaping for survival. High Honor Arthur pretty much accepted his death.

  • @3id29
    @3id29 3 роки тому +1182

    I feel like when Hosea was killed, Micah saw his chance, completely took advantage of it, and caused Dutch to go insane and pretty much act just like him, and when Dutch left the two at the end, Arthur managed to snap him out of his delusion and insanity. If Hosea was here through the whole story, he couldeve kept the whole gang together

    • @thesmilinggun-knight9646
      @thesmilinggun-knight9646 2 роки тому +98

      That does beg the question some people like myself have pondered, was Dutch a good man who was twisted into the person he became in RDR 1 after Hosea dead or was Dutch always a monster and Hosea simply kept his worst aspects from surfacing.

    • @pedinhuh16
      @pedinhuh16 2 роки тому +84

      I don't think Hosea could have kept the gang together at all, he tried to stop Dutch from killing Bronte and then tried to stop him from doing the bank heist right afterwards...Dutch was just too dead set sticking it up to the civilized world that his outlaw lifestyle was still alive and kicking.
      At best Hosea could get some folks out alive like Arthur did.

    • @arrye7790
      @arrye7790 2 роки тому +28

      @@thesmilinggun-knight9646 there's also the question of Dutch possibly having brain damage after that trolley accident, which can cause personality changes, often for the worst. If that's the case, I wonder how he felt when it began to heal and realized everything he possibly cared for (one way or another) was in shambles

    • @cringe7391
      @cringe7391 2 роки тому

      @@arrye7790 I don't think brain damage heals

    • @arrye7790
      @arrye7790 2 роки тому +13

      @@cringe7391 my bad, I meant a brain injury. You're right, brain damage can't be healed, but brain injuries like bad concussions can be and can cause temporary personality shifts

  • @Sam-vlog123-m4c
    @Sam-vlog123-m4c 3 роки тому +975

    Dutch plan meaning
    P=Pardise(Tahiti)
    L=Lots of money
    A=Another train
    N=No doubters

    • @memegod4674
      @memegod4674 3 роки тому +93

      plan
      B Betray Arthur after well over 30 years of riding with him

    • @Sam-vlog123-m4c
      @Sam-vlog123-m4c 3 роки тому +14

      @@memegod4674 lol true

    • @Walrus-yq6uh
      @Walrus-yq6uh 3 роки тому +6

      And there's *always* a Goddamn train!

    • @andrew2477
      @andrew2477 2 роки тому +5

      You forgot F for Faith

    • @cartonflesh9961
      @cartonflesh9961 2 роки тому +4

      N=noise

  • @rumpled4skin271
    @rumpled4skin271 3 роки тому +2432

    I like how for the low honor gunslinger outfit he changed the shirt red. Nice touch 👌, also the honor difference in the suits, drip as well as the look in general.

    • @frederikkaiser6156
      @frederikkaiser6156 3 роки тому +79

      he didnt changed it, actually the game did that

    • @ThePaperKhan
      @ThePaperKhan 3 роки тому +42

      Yeah, he didn't change the shirt, the games like that.

    • @rumpled4skin271
      @rumpled4skin271 3 роки тому +41

      @@ThePaperKhan I played low honor before and his shirt was still blue though.

    • @天下無比-x4t
      @天下無比-x4t 3 роки тому +87

      @@frederikkaiser6156 yeah he did change the shirt, you can choose what to wear in the game...

    • @actuallytweakin
      @actuallytweakin 3 роки тому +69

      The game automatically changes your outfit you get on that one boat robbery mission to red if you have LH but blue if you have HH. You probably knew that but i found it interesting.

  • @mathlete855
    @mathlete855 2 роки тому +535

    I noticed how LH Arthur has less blood on his face and his eyes aren’t as dark or heavy. 4:16 Really emphasizes how LH Arthur is in denial about his condition and he wants to survive, as shown by his slower TB progression. Implying that Arthur is fighting as hard as he can to beat this unbeatable disease. While at 6:34, HH Arthur is covered in blood and his eyes are extremely heavy and bloodshot. It shows how accepting Arthur is of his situation, almost as if he’s giving up and accepting his death from TB. Yet at the same time, he’s at peace. Arthur knows he’s done good and he still has a little more time to make the best decisions.

    • @a.k8185
      @a.k8185 Рік тому +22

      Nicely noticed.

    • @battlefields2mine
      @battlefields2mine Рік тому +21

      The magic of color grading, my friend. Such art this game is.

    • @saulbueno5640
      @saulbueno5640 Рік тому +28

      Not to mention in the low honor segment it's raining, implying a darker tone.
      In the high honor segment, the sun is out, implying a lighter and graceful tone.

    • @cam-the-bassist
      @cam-the-bassist 9 місяців тому +7

      Sorry to revive an old thread, but I also think it shows how heavily HH Arthur's conscience weighs on him - sleepless night and constant torment thinking about the shit he's done.

    • @NotaScrimp
      @NotaScrimp 9 місяців тому

      Even the deer and coyote are nice touches

  • @claiminghawk
    @claiminghawk 3 роки тому +817

    Did anyone notice that the dishonorable ending is the visualization of the quote "you live by the gun you die by the gun" in both instances of the ending

    • @ВладиславБулаев-л3э
      @ВладиславБулаев-л3э 3 роки тому +77

      Yeah, Reverend Swanson says similar things in Low Honor scene: "You lived your way, you die your way".

    • @personman1148
      @personman1148 3 роки тому +13

      I like low honor help John and high honor to for revenge ending.

    • @Matthewgaming20
      @Matthewgaming20 2 роки тому +5

      @@personman1148 i like the polar opposites of those two low honor money seems more like a man whose damned for the decisions he made as his last was fatal while high honor help john is a man who finally redeemed himself in saving a family

    • @Courier2077
      @Courier2077 2 роки тому +2

      John died by his gun after tryna to kill multiple army units at the end of the game

    • @claiminghawk
      @claiminghawk 2 роки тому +2

      @@Courier2077 RDR1 illustrates that no matter how much you try to change your lifestyle for the better often times you will be pulled back into your previous lifestyle and it could lead to your demise if you return to your previous lifestyle and try to go back to the lifestyle you truly want for yourself and your family especially if you were living a criminal lifestyle.

  • @haniDopeman
    @haniDopeman 3 роки тому +877

    Sean's low honor scene
    Is just scary dude

    • @yentamoon1808
      @yentamoon1808 2 роки тому +150

      Probably because it shows vultures eating the corpses while arthur explains it in excruciating detail, probably to sell just how grotesque it was under low honor

    • @gaysiegelord
      @gaysiegelord 2 роки тому +91

      Arthur sounds mad that sean died for nothing

    • @Droidsbane
      @Droidsbane 2 роки тому +15

      @@yentamoon1808 those were crows

    • @uncomentarista3103
      @uncomentarista3103 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Droidsbanelast time I checked, crows had feathers in their head

    • @Droidsbane
      @Droidsbane Рік тому

      @@uncomentarista3103 ...oh you're right I apologize

  • @BossCrazyRoss
    @BossCrazyRoss 2 роки тому +284

    Them lighting the cigarette and realizing how bad of an idea it is never ceases to make me laugh.

  • @bigpatt11
    @bigpatt11 3 роки тому +950

    There's one detail that i don't know anyone notices when he talked to tilly for the last time: in low honor version his face is pale white looking exactly like the skull icon for low honor. And for high honor his face is lit up its glowing. Very small but effective detail

    • @jorge2555
      @jorge2555 2 роки тому +46

      That's so sick!
      I knew there was a difference in complexion but now that you pointed it out it makes sense.

    • @yourmother9747
      @yourmother9747 2 роки тому +22

      That’s just the lighting, since missions can take place at different times of the day

    • @methodikul7625
      @methodikul7625 2 роки тому +116

      @@yourmother9747 That cutscene is scripted to take place at the same time and in the same weather every time

    • @uncletacitus5674
      @uncletacitus5674 2 роки тому +6

      Thats bc of the TB 😂

    • @jcshark7023
      @jcshark7023 2 роки тому +5

      I mean he’s definitely smiling

  • @Conn30Mtenor
    @Conn30Mtenor 3 роки тому +541

    I love how Dutch demands unquestioning loyalty but ditches people whenever it suits his purpose at the time.

  • @reichtanglevictor1694
    @reichtanglevictor1694 2 роки тому +394

    Notice how in Low Honor Reverend is a lot more skittish around Arthur when he's leaving and he's trying to lead the conversation and get away as fast as possible, while in High Honor he's a lot more at ease

    • @heliax9924
      @heliax9924 2 роки тому +33

      yeah love the details honestly red ded 2 is less off a game and more off a movie cause all the effort clearly went into the story and the writing

    • @mattfugate9029
      @mattfugate9029 8 місяців тому +11

      Well there's a reason for it Low Honor Arthur is far more likely to kill someone for no reason or just for fun or whatever just cause he can High Honor is a lot less likely to do that unless the story and plot demands it

    • @borntoit1
      @borntoit1 8 місяців тому +14

      Also LH Reverend has his “bible” with him while HH Reverend doesn’t, implying the LH Reverend may still be using as he keeps his supply in his book. Since HH Reverend has no book, it implies that he’s clean and sober, allowing him to be more at ease.

    • @mattfugate9029
      @mattfugate9029 7 місяців тому +2

      @@borntoit1 That's really cool I didn't notice that

  • @quantumationsgaming3387
    @quantumationsgaming3387 3 роки тому +3092

    Low honor: red dead
    High honor: redemption
    Neutral honor: 2

  • @RichHods
    @RichHods 3 роки тому +571

    I really appreciate how for the Sister talk at the train station, instead of making Arthur wear the blue suit like in the rest honourable actions, you made him wear gold. Showing the added goodness in his heart for helping them with their cause.

  • @actuallytweakin
    @actuallytweakin 3 роки тому +354

    12:06
    Low Honor: "Seeing as im here i may as well protect the payment"
    13:16
    High Honor: "Well seeing as im here i'll do what i can for you"
    *D A M N* Rockstar

    • @a.k8185
      @a.k8185 2 роки тому +8

      Small difference but *deep*

  • @6joe16ful
    @6joe16ful 3 роки тому +182

    *that's murfree country*
    low honor: i guess I'm more interested in surviving, than winning at chess
    high honor: i guess I'm more interested in saving lives than winning at chess
    dutch: yeah. well, maybe ain't such a thing to cling on to so tightly!
    low honor: no doubt...but whats are move, here?
    high honor: no doubt...but what about the women?
    i love the detail

  • @raebaeferret
    @raebaeferret 3 роки тому +1684

    Is it just me or does low honor Arthur bow his head slightly lower so his hat covers his eyes more, ominous I’d say. 🤔

    • @KOHoxton
      @KOHoxton 3 роки тому +392

      He does, it was very striking to me in my low honor playthrough, I actually appreciate it more.

    • @coreycasciano3255
      @coreycasciano3255 3 роки тому +458

      Almost like he’s ashamed of himself and doesn’t want people to look him in the eyes 👍

    • @dababy2859
      @dababy2859 3 роки тому +29

      @@coreycasciano3255 true

    • @redreni4185
      @redreni4185 3 роки тому +16

      @@coreycasciano3255 uhh dont think you really get the point

    • @julieswenson6934
      @julieswenson6934 3 роки тому +148

      Yes, he's a lot more sinister as low honor.

  • @leviticuscornwall9631
    @leviticuscornwall9631 3 роки тому +2200

    Would’ve been cool if depending on Arthur’s honor when he dies, you’d play as either John or Dutch. With high honor you get the regular John epilogue we got, but with low honor we’d get a complete different epilogue as Dutch where you hunt down Micah to “make amends” but secretly you plan on killing him the whole time

    • @dingledongus
      @dingledongus 3 роки тому +133

      Thats a really cool idea damn

    • @RedDeadVegas
      @RedDeadVegas 3 роки тому +100

      Dutch’s story might be a dlc

    • @leviticuscornwall9631
      @leviticuscornwall9631 3 роки тому +424

      @@RedDeadVegas as awesome as that’d be there’s zero chance rockstar ever makes another single player dlc

    • @RedDeadVegas
      @RedDeadVegas 3 роки тому +26

      @@leviticuscornwall9631 true

    • @私の名前を翻訳しないでください
      @私の名前を翻訳しないでください 3 роки тому +146

      Damn, that would actually be really fucking cool. It would also give players a good incentivve to replay the game with Low Honor.

  • @Grimno
    @Grimno 3 роки тому +705

    Me: *Goes evil the whole game, setting passerbys on fire, throwing dynamite through the mail slot at the post office, stabbing people in the streets, hogtieing people and dragging them behind me*
    End of the Game: *Approaches*
    Me: "Welp. Time to become a good guy..." *Enters town* "Howdy! Hi! Hello there! Evening! Hi! Howdy! Mister! Ma'am! Howdy! Hi!" Hello!"

    • @ilovejettrooper5922
      @ilovejettrooper5922 2 роки тому

      So you have chosen... this: ua-cam.com/video/GpUlJDovG7g/v-deo.html&ab_channel=VivaLaDirtLeague

    • @ju1c3d50
      @ju1c3d50 2 роки тому +77

      This is one of the truest things i've heard a rdr2 player say.

    • @Ghostdahaloguy
      @Ghostdahaloguy 2 роки тому +18

      And kicking strauss out and killing compson and throwing fish back

    • @ghostiebaka2809
      @ghostiebaka2809 2 роки тому +48

      “Alright, I should be getting on”

    • @Ghostdahaloguy
      @Ghostdahaloguy 2 роки тому +26

      @@ghostiebaka2809 “Ok Arthur”

  • @TheCommanderSpitz
    @TheCommanderSpitz 3 роки тому +1232

    For my main play through I’ve gone with having Arthur stay in the center of the Honor bar since that fits his character in the beginning. Over time I begin to slowly transition into good honor since it feels more fitting to Arthur’s story.

    • @bonk984
      @bonk984 3 роки тому +111

      I did the same thing, I had around neutral honour (it was a bit higher than neutral tbh) and slowly as Arthur got sick I made sure to try my best to help others. Every time I replay the game I can’t bring myself to have low honour I don’t know why it just feels wrong.

    • @alexandergill1545
      @alexandergill1545 3 роки тому +9

      That’s what I did too

    • @Bloop682
      @Bloop682 3 роки тому +30

      Honestly, I’ve never been able to do that. I always end up with low honor until chapter 6 and I end Arthur’s story with High honor after doing all the optional side missions to raise his honor back to good.

    • @Lolpy.
      @Lolpy. 3 роки тому +7

      My first playthrough was a set of both, slightly below average honor up until chapter 6, where I maxed it out.

    • @Magst3r1
      @Magst3r1 3 роки тому +2

      Mine drops to max low honor and then stays there untill the straus missions in chapter 6

  • @the_yurest
    @the_yurest 3 роки тому +405

    That's enough to make a grown man cry
    And that's okay.

  • @NotRJ001
    @NotRJ001 3 роки тому +1514

    I just realized that in Arthur's last ride the song lyrics are completely different.
    Low Honor lyrics are about death and Demise while High Honor lyrics are about Life and Good Fortune.

    • @ayjaytee1008
      @ayjaytee1008 3 роки тому +220

      The lyrics are exactly the same. The only thing that's different is the instrumental and the quotes that Arthur remembers

    • @NoName-hv7xn
      @NoName-hv7xn 3 роки тому +54

      Exactly, lyrics are the same.

    • @acer5720
      @acer5720 3 роки тому +4

      Idiot

    • @THWhite-ip3uq
      @THWhite-ip3uq 3 роки тому +23

      @@acer5720 takes one to know one.

    • @ZZ-rc1yw
      @ZZ-rc1yw 3 роки тому +10

      Stop the cap

  • @xZippy
    @xZippy Рік тому +119

    It feels absolutely amazing when doing that self-reflective ride in high honor, like the game thanking you for all the strangers you helped out.

  • @youngbloodwolf6929
    @youngbloodwolf6929 3 роки тому +169

    So high honor is Arthur being more happy and motivational but low honor is him acting on his own feelings rather then thinking of others.

    • @youngbloodwolf6929
      @youngbloodwolf6929 3 роки тому +33

      A thing I noticed is how the camp people trust Arthur more on high honor however they watch him closer during low honor.

  • @shadow_wesker6666
    @shadow_wesker6666 3 роки тому +2292

    Low honor Arthur: despise, hatred, greed and death.
    High honor Arthur: redemption, love, regret, mercy and trying all he can to help those who need it until his last breath
    (Edit)
    Holy shit! 1k likes! Thank you all so much!!!

    • @bigdicknigga3746
      @bigdicknigga3746 3 роки тому +20

      I mean he does that too in low honor

    • @datguy8460
      @datguy8460 3 роки тому +33

      i like the low honor version more, seems more in touch with reality

    • @richierich2229
      @richierich2229 3 роки тому +21

      @@datguy8460 yeah if Arthur was a real person a real outlaw in the late 1800s who kills people I doubt he would help people and I doubt being diagnosed with TB would “open his eyes”

    • @datguy8460
      @datguy8460 3 роки тому +3

      @@richierich2229 uh huh?

    • @zugzugzugzug1238
      @zugzugzugzug1238 3 роки тому +7

      @@datguy8460 steve jobs died of ligma

  • @crisp1468
    @crisp1468 3 роки тому +98

    On a deeper level, Low honor Arthur is scared of dying and still trying to find a way out alive (cause he's scared of the aftermath of his action's)
    while high honor make's him accept his death, knowingly he can rest in peace without any regrets.

  • @jedrzejziokowski9152
    @jedrzejziokowski9152 2 роки тому +437

    It's intresting how across many different parts of the game when Arthur is low honor he doesn't seem like a completely evil man. He feels like a very troubled man who is well on the way of embracing the evil he caused for so long. Like his conscience is on its last breath. Good example is how the deadeye looks in both variants. In HH its calm, you can hear the wind and Arthurs hartbeat, he knows he has no choice but to kill. It feels calm and focused. While with LH it sounds like a bloodthirsty killer out for more blood. You hear no heartbeat, it sounds unnerving, scary, unnatural you can also hear some disembodied voices. Its almost like you can hear all the people you killed just because of your sick nature and the wicked path you chose.

    • @Learner945
      @Learner945 2 роки тому +33

      In LH the kill cam focuses on enemies more. In HH it focuses on Arthur more

    • @eianmoon2463
      @eianmoon2463 2 роки тому +33

      I'd like to see the the kill cam is like his mindset in LH when it focuses on the enemies it's like "just another body to getting in my way" and in HH when it focuses on you it's like"I had no other choice it was either you or me"
      Just my opinion though hell, I could be just wrong about it all

    • @king_isshiki
      @king_isshiki Рік тому +2

      Cringe.

    • @Berserker3624
      @Berserker3624 Рік тому +3

      Bro I like Arthur too but come on, no choice? So he had to rob that bank? So he was a criminal not because of charismatic charm but out of no other choice whatsoever? Let’s be honest the only difference in HH is that Arthur is more stable and nothing else while LH he’s basically serial killer with how many he’s killed

    • @yeeter7348
      @yeeter7348 Рік тому

      well said.

  • @dragontiger7528
    @dragontiger7528 3 роки тому +422

    Some of the scenes I swear have different lighting for Arthur. In low honer some scenes seem darker in shadows, while high honer has brighter lighting effects. Also the final ride with the song is definitely different weather you have low or high honer. Low honer is somber with less instrumentals playing in the background, while high honer has more instruments playing and sounds brighter, have a listen to the two. Something neat I noticed, makes me appreciate the developers for putting so much detail in this game to give more impact to the players.

    • @fullsendabeerforme2988
      @fullsendabeerforme2988 2 роки тому +4

      There’s no change in lighting at all depicting on your honor. It’s just the time of day during the missions you do. You might have done let’s say… the mission where you fight in the bar and that big guy tommy throws you out the window in the day. But I fought him at night because I spent a lot of time messing around before I did that mission. Again, there is no light changes. It’s just the time of day or night you did them.

    • @dragontiger7528
      @dragontiger7528 2 роки тому +31

      @@fullsendabeerforme2988 bro, the Sadie mission with you killing the o driscolls is set the same day, play that part and tell me low honer doesn't look darker.

    • @fullsendabeerforme2988
      @fullsendabeerforme2988 2 роки тому +4

      @@dragontiger7528 I think your damn Brightness was turned downed because I tested it myself and it didn’t change lol

    • @Lord_Freeza1410
      @Lord_Freeza1410 2 роки тому +5

      fairly sure he holds his head lower in low honour

    • @Matthewgaming20
      @Matthewgaming20 2 роки тому

      More like the ending dark and raining for low honor while a beautiful warm and bright sunrise for high honor

  • @1SpicyMeataball
    @1SpicyMeataball 3 роки тому +65

    Low honor Arthur is very blunt.
    High honor: *something thoughtful or poetic about a chatacter dying*
    Low: "HE DEAD."

  • @wyber3374
    @wyber3374 3 роки тому +812

    I personally like playing dishonored arthur because it give more of a gunslinger and outlaw vibe to him and then redeem him after the TB

    • @3headedsnake388
      @3headedsnake388 3 роки тому +205

      I personally think that’s what happened in canon just based on Arthur’s early cutscene behavior. Going around greeting everyone in town and having fun time with your honor up… and then immediately beating a man that can barely speak English black and blue because he owes some money? Or beating Thomas Downes literally to death as well and then to add insult to injury threatening to kill his son right after going back to ask for more money!

    • @wyber3374
      @wyber3374 3 роки тому +95

      @@3headedsnake388 exactly and arthur in his prime is more of a tough guy than a soft good man

    • @thebackup9110
      @thebackup9110 3 роки тому +11

      That's how i played my first time

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 3 роки тому +26

      My recorded playthrough was the opposite. High honor, but after TB the honor slowly erodes until the final decision to get revenge on Micah and die fighting.

    • @rebel876_9
      @rebel876_9 3 роки тому +5

      I think being an outlaw you rob people and get into fights and not senseless killing (I think)

  • @darkurge69
    @darkurge69 3 роки тому +163

    I've replayed the game 5 times and I will never do low honor (except maybe chapter 2 when I'm messing around at first).
    To hear Sadie say "Aside from my Jake, you're the best man I've known"
    Nearing the end of the story too, it just hits so beautifully jesus christ.

    • @connoranderson7432
      @connoranderson7432 3 роки тому +10

      I’ve done both. The high honour playthrough is definitely more of a “redemption” story but the low honour one has some really awesome moments and I think it’s definitely a valid way to play the game.
      Also idk i actually prefer the low honour version of “That’s The Way it Is”

    • @TheRealDG01
      @TheRealDG01 2 роки тому +9

      @@connoranderson7432 hmm I’m excited now to see how the high honor will be, I’ve beat it twice with low honor and I absolutely loved the “that’s the way it is”

    • @connoranderson7432
      @connoranderson7432 2 роки тому

      @@TheRealDG01 oh yeah high honour is really awesome and cathartic. There’s quite a few details that are different or altered. Make sure you do the nun side missions and all the debt collector side missions. Also Edith Downes has some side quests you only unlock on high honour.

    • @wiwysova
      @wiwysova Рік тому

      Dumb

    • @Hananiah70
      @Hananiah70 Рік тому

      I like low honor more, trust me give it a try

  • @NightwingRock
    @NightwingRock 3 роки тому +125

    The low honour final ride makes it feel as though you’re truly watching the final moments of a wholeheartedly evil and angry man

  • @HanGhost99
    @HanGhost99 3 роки тому +121

    I love Arthur Morgan
    Whatever route you decide to as for Arthur it fits him naturally, being good, average, and evil
    He’s the perfect character for a story, btw I beat the game 3 times and I couldn’t help myself but end it good

  • @briansheehan5256
    @briansheehan5256 2 роки тому +43

    The way Arthur with low honor says "Sean has been killed. His head shot half off in an ambush."
    That was some real grit shit right there.

  • @fullsendabeerforme2988
    @fullsendabeerforme2988 2 роки тому +131

    I love the difference in the walk after he finds out he got TB. In the low honor version you can hear his footsteps, they echo in the background. As if he knows he’s walked the path of a bad man and will die as one. On the high honor though his footsteps are murmured. As if he knows his path isn’t set in stone

  • @jackgranat4158
    @jackgranat4158 3 роки тому +347

    to me rdr2 is about what people come to realize over time. self growth and helping people out. Arther is a amazing main character.

  • @julieswenson6934
    @julieswenson6934 3 роки тому +160

    The scope of this game is breathtaking. It's the level of quality all future games in the genre will strive for.

    • @DoctorFail
      @DoctorFail 2 роки тому +13

      You are very, very optimistic about video game company's...

    • @yentamoon1808
      @yentamoon1808 2 роки тому +9

      @@DoctorFail like really really really optimistic....

    • @Osio1000_5
      @Osio1000_5 Рік тому +3

      Yeah, I wish...

  • @dirty_harry8012
    @dirty_harry8012 2 роки тому +143

    After completing a low honor play through for the first time I noticed many differences that still haven’t been discovered. One subtle difference is in favored sons when arthur will say to Dutch “I’m worried about folk!” In low honor he says “this ain’t how we do things!” The dialogue is significantly different in the mission archaeology for beginners. If you tell rain falls about Arthur’s sickness he will tell him he plans on heading out west once he gets enough money.. also in the kings son on the ride to the fort with Charles Arthur will keep mentioning that Dutch has all the money. When Charles says I guess that’s why you’re here now Arthur responds “I’m here because Dutch asked me to” and I have to play along until I can find out where that money is.. turns out Arthur really does care about the money after all. That’s why In the low honor go back for the money ending Arthur says “ I came to take what’s mine.. you rat” it wasn’t about revenge. I strongly recommend everyone who hasn’t done a low honor play through to just do it. I found it much more interesting to see Arthur concerned much more with his own priorities rather than worry about others.

    • @heliax9924
      @heliax9924 2 роки тому +14

      also if you have low honnor athur will not remove his hat when he talks to marry for the first time (in the game) and if you reject her with low honnor she say "i see you havent changed much" while the high honnor version of rejecting her she is much more understanding honestly i think the true way to find all the honnor differences is just play a mission with high honnor record it then do the same mission again with low honnor and record it again most people focus on the major scenes which is cool and all but i think the subtel changes like dead eye sounding different if you have completly 0% honor and other lines changing i hope someone one day will find all the differences

  • @nielsost3083
    @nielsost3083 3 роки тому +307

    Even with low honor he still a man who helps his buddy's

    • @myboah4764
      @myboah4764 3 роки тому +6

      Only John

    • @MOJAHED-XAN
      @MOJAHED-XAN 2 роки тому +1

      @@myboah4764
      No he helped others

    • @myboah4764
      @myboah4764 2 роки тому +1

      @@MOJAHED-XAN as low honor

    • @MOJAHED-XAN
      @MOJAHED-XAN 2 роки тому +1

      @@myboah4764
      Yes

    • @myboah4764
      @myboah4764 2 роки тому +3

      @@MOJAHED-XAN lenneh ma boah

  • @Necro_Cancer
    @Necro_Cancer 3 роки тому +207

    Even at low honor, Arthur’s still kind of a bro

    • @a.k8185
      @a.k8185 2 роки тому +4

      Correct.

  • @jamall7003
    @jamall7003 2 роки тому +109

    I love this little detail in "The Fine Art of Conversation" section of the video. When Arthur Has low Honor when talking to Swanson the conversation is so short and abrupt Swanson really rushes off in a hurry. With High Honor however, the conversation is alot more deep and Swanson only leaves when the Train is about to leave. It's like he could've just talked to Arthur all night long.

    • @heliax9924
      @heliax9924 2 роки тому +2

      true never thought off it like that

    • @AdamOwenBrowning
      @AdamOwenBrowning Рік тому +9

      As a recovering opiate addict, I grew a soft spot for Swanson. His behavior never made any sense to me when I played 3-4 years ago, he was insane. He approaches you at camp with an urgent matter! ...then completely forgets what he meant to ask you. He's always so hounded to urgency and anxiety. by whatever noise is going on in his head. I get that now
      It can take him up to three chapters, but he does actually pickpocket those men at the first poker game you play with the mission he gives you, and he gives you these valuables as a gift to say thank-you. He's not an idiot, only comes across as one and his mind has been fried by alcohol and morphine.
      He reads his bible upside down because it's a hollowed-out bible and it's where he keeps his kit for injecting. Bringing Swanson a space where he feels he can talk, it feels right. I always listen to his camp rambles. Putting the man in fear is like watching a downed dog.

  • @aridity5319
    @aridity5319 3 роки тому +215

    I never seen any of the un-honorable cutscenes before because i never let arthur go under honorable bc he dont deserve it

    • @edgar2785
      @edgar2785 3 роки тому +5

      lol i beat the game 3 times 2 with max low honor and 1 with neutral well im pretty sure the deer is but i tried to be good but i just cant

    • @divinedimes260
      @divinedimes260 3 роки тому +5

      @@edgar2785 and that’s okay too

    • @tysixers2
      @tysixers2 3 роки тому +2

      Low honor makes much more sense for the storyline.

    • @TheRealDG01
      @TheRealDG01 2 роки тому

      I’m in chapter 3 of my 3rd playthrough. My other 2 games have been with low honor and I really really hated watching Arthur get shot twice.... I almost have complete high honor in chapter 3 and I absolutely love a high honor Arthur better

  • @captbluntman
    @captbluntman 3 роки тому +70

    the one thing we hear from Dutch the most is “JUST ONE MORE SCORE”

    • @kam2611
      @kam2611 3 роки тому

      False it’s plan

    • @PrinceGummy
      @PrinceGummy 3 роки тому

      And there's always a goddamn train.

  • @f8h923
    @f8h923 3 роки тому +88

    37:04 the most unnerving Arthur's honor dream.

  • @michaelpara8582
    @michaelpara8582 3 роки тому +266

    The three versions of "The fine art of conversation"
    Low Honor
    High Honor
    Extra High Honor
    And no matter how many times I play through it 32:56 never fails to make me emotional

    • @naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565
      @naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565 2 роки тому +18

      actually there's only low and high honor, the extra one is for those who did the Sister's sidequest, so she shows up there instead of trelaway, which is much more fitting and heartbreaking than trelaway's one.

    • @eoinfitzsimons
      @eoinfitzsimons 2 роки тому +6

      @@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565 Isn't it Swanson not Trelawny

    • @Matthewgaming20
      @Matthewgaming20 2 роки тому +2

      @@eoinfitzsimons yes

    • @MrSoloDolo02
      @MrSoloDolo02 9 місяців тому

      @@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565Damn just completed the main game with the epilogue left to go, wish I knew about the Sister's side mission before Arthur passed on. Second playthrough is in order

  • @b4ttl3sky45
    @b4ttl3sky45 3 роки тому +32

    damn bro in that short walk in a pretty town one you can see a very clear difference,
    Low honor: ''Sean was killed.'' then not talking about him anymore and caring more about the ''confederate gold''
    High honor: ''He was like an annoying little brother to me'' and then talking about how much fun they had and not mentioning anything about money

  • @513villain5
    @513villain5 2 роки тому +90

    Arthur's biggest mistake was not killing Micah after saving him from Strawberry or after their lil heist together. Then we could've played freely and gotten a somewhat peaceful departure. And one of the side missions/tasks could have been to secretly make 20k-30k to leave/give John.

    • @SkullDozer619
      @SkullDozer619 2 роки тому +9

      this is true af, like at any mission where Arthur and micah were together alone, Arthur could've shot him in the head and head back to camp with the body and tell dutch that we got ambushed by the Pinkertons and micah died in the process

    • @jaydenshepard7928
      @jaydenshepard7928 Рік тому +20

      Thats the problem with being a good or loyal person, you are at a huge disadvantage and vulnerable to people who dont care about that. If Arthur was a psychopath he could have prevented most of the tragedy in this story by shooting Micah in the back of the head when they were out together or in a firefight and playing it off as him dying to the law. Wolves are the only ones who can properly deal with other wolves. Arthur could have ironically saved the gang and done a lot better for the people he cared about as a worse person, than he managed to as a good person.

    • @snappythesnapster1856
      @snappythesnapster1856 Рік тому

      @@jaydenshepard7928 Ah yes arthur could have prevented so much tragedy by shooting himself😂

    • @hoimyrgames4442
      @hoimyrgames4442 Рік тому +6

      ​@@jaydenshepard7928I get what you're saying, but killing Micah in my perspective isn't considered psycopathy, since Arthur already kills a lot of bandits and criminals, what's one more to him? He could very well just shoot him and tell Dutch he got killed by another gang or lawmen or pinkertons, he chooses not to, even thought killing him wouldn't be considered betrayal, he's been with the gang for only 6 months, barely a trustful member. Unfortunately Rockstar made that part of the narrative kind of bad, reminds me of Joel trusting strangers in The last of us 2.

  • @awkwardboy
    @awkwardboy 3 роки тому +32

    I had no idea most of these alternate scenes existed. Thanks for putting this together.

  • @sirvonrigglesheimerivesq.9115
    @sirvonrigglesheimerivesq.9115 2 роки тому +95

    I remember really struggling to get high honor because I had done a mission where you kill lawmen or something so I was a really bad person. At this point I had been dreaming about the wolf for most of the game but I spent most of chapter 6 trying to become a better person, I can't describe how good it felt to finally get closure as arthur died looking into the sunrise

    • @Johnnoeu3
      @Johnnoeu3 2 роки тому +10

      It’s a Coyote, not a Wolf.

  • @eclinvo4910
    @eclinvo4910 3 роки тому +48

    It's heartbreaking to see the difference between the dishonorable and honorable Arthur Morgan. It could really be a movie.

  • @aotearoa_goose3261
    @aotearoa_goose3261 3 роки тому +29

    I love how they both realise what they're doing in the bridge to nowhere with the cigarettes.

  • @Tucher97
    @Tucher97 3 роки тому +155

    After playing the game and watching videos of missing dialogue, I have to say I feel bad for Arthur and his group, in a way they are pursuing what they understand, what they know. At one point Arthur saids that the world is changing and the world doesn't need folks like him, he is partially right.
    A time when hard work yields benefits only for Dutch, well. He looked to the modern day and figure out how to live rich and comfortable, at the cost of people who trusted him.
    Which in all honesty, its something that others should have scene, he makes such massive high stakes gamble at big bucks, if he truly cared for journeying west, he would have made a constant effort, yet Dutch didn't think of a way around black water, just "How can We get money"
    I am missing words but the idea is, Dutch is hiding his true motive.

    • @Daysbb
      @Daysbb 3 роки тому +20

      Exactly
      Dutch was just a manipulative silver tongued liar
      Milton and Ross were dispacable but they said the truth about Dutch
      And Dutch just proves everything by making a gang like Colm o'driscoll with disposible members in rdr1

    • @Tucher97
      @Tucher97 3 роки тому +11

      @@Daysbb Also when dutch talks about escaping civilization, everytime he talked, I always wonder is "why are we here? Shouldnt we be making our way north to go into the mountains or atleast make an effort to buy maps or some way bypassing blackwater" but that never happens, Dutch just says "I have a plan" and that plan, like any big business owner, he stole the paychecks and left everyone else in a nasty ditch.

    • @josephstalin2606
      @josephstalin2606 3 роки тому +9

      @@Tucher97 Or whenever Arthur mentions that their lives are at stake and that they’re in serious danger, Dutch tends to brush it off or bring the convo back to himself “do you have my back?”. He’s just as full of himself as he was manipulative

    • @Tucher97
      @Tucher97 3 роки тому +2

      @@josephstalin2606 And again, that is much like most modern business owners, Dutch didn't want money for the gang, he wanted money for himself.

    • @richierich2229
      @richierich2229 3 роки тому +3

      I don’t feel bad for them at all lol. They’re all manipulative they’re all liars and they’re all killers. It’s karma

  • @thesnowfox7262
    @thesnowfox7262 2 роки тому +57

    I am not sure if I am right or wrong, but I noticed on "Red Dead Redemption" that even Arthur's facial expressions are different: he looks fierce, angry and ruthless on low honor, while on high honor he looks like he is sort of more "peaceful" and takes pity on Jack and gives a "final goodbye" look to Tilly. Again, Roger Clark did fantastic and outstanding work!

  • @nicholaschang8717
    @nicholaschang8717 Рік тому +19

    “Take a chance that love exists, and do a loving act” best line in the game

  • @testedhawk
    @testedhawk 2 роки тому +28

    Love how High-honor Arthur is more concerned with other people and even goes out of his way to recognize their strengths, while low-honor just constantly talks about money

    • @SardonicJosh
      @SardonicJosh 2 роки тому +4

      That's not true, Low Honor Arthur also cared, just that he wasn't as humble and soft as High Honor

  • @jihannireshwalia7603
    @jihannireshwalia7603 3 роки тому +212

    I really just want the next game for Arthur waking up in jail after drinking with Lenny. Maybe it was all a drunk dream..

    • @redreni4185
      @redreni4185 3 роки тому +3

      how does that make sense how could he have a dream of the next 20 years of johns life

    • @jihannireshwalia7603
      @jihannireshwalia7603 3 роки тому +31

      @@redreni4185 alcohol has very strong effects...

    • @jihannireshwalia7603
      @jihannireshwalia7603 3 роки тому +10

      @@redreni4185 plus stop being such a wuss its just a joke bro

    • @redreni4185
      @redreni4185 3 роки тому +1

      @@jihannireshwalia7603 my guy calling me a wuss because of his stupidity why u trolling g no one cares 😂

    • @jihannireshwalia7603
      @jihannireshwalia7603 3 роки тому +12

      @@redreni4185 why take so serious? damn g you aint in a good place

  • @criticalangle90
    @criticalangle90 Рік тому +14

    ngl i was kinda neutral to low honor around the end of arthur's story. But when i started seeing creepy coyotes lookin at me in my dreams, I knew stuff was gettin real and it was time to start greeting a bunch of strangers in Saint Denis

  • @Cheez_Doodlezz
    @Cheez_Doodlezz 3 роки тому +74

    Arthur kicking out Strauss low honor seems accurate

  • @alexmason4223
    @alexmason4223 9 місяців тому +9

    The conversation with sister at the train station always brings me to tears. It’s like Arthur’s last confession

  • @YaBoiBrendo
    @YaBoiBrendo 3 роки тому +69

    High honor Arthur cares about his friends and the innocent, just like Dutch taught him.
    Low honor Arthur only cares about himself, just like Dutch near the end of the game.

    • @kurumtelefon7148
      @kurumtelefon7148 3 роки тому +10

      Dutch never cared about innocent. Hosea on the other hand..

    • @spiderslayer372
      @spiderslayer372 Рік тому +1

      ​@Kurum Telefon I think he still cared about innocents but over the course of the game the stress started getting to him and dutch started indulging in his darker side more and more until he lost his way completely

  • @MariusBoss11458
    @MariusBoss11458 3 роки тому +81

    This needs more views. Many people showed the Important ones but never the small detailed ones. Sure you could have cut the cutscenes so it's when it Actually changes but I don't care. So glad you did this. I haven't seen anyone do it so I'm real glad you did. And damn seeing the High Honor and Low Honor icons up close is creepy. But cool. I believe there might be some that you forgot but not too many. I believe you forgot all of the Deer and Wolf Scenes but that's fine. And also some low honor and high honor Dialouge for Arthur's Journal like at the beginning of the game even earlier than what you showed. I know there's one for Mary Linton.

    • @John-996
      @John-996 Рік тому +1

      yeah its great one thing people have not gone is the in game dialogue changes in both missions in some small ones in the open world.

  • @PsychorGames
    @PsychorGames 3 роки тому +497

    It still blows my fucking mind that declining to genocide the rest of the O'Driscolls with Sadie gives you bad honor. Especially after you murdered Colm. At this point Arthur knows revenge is a fools game. I will always decline to go on that mission because to me that's more honorable.

    • @arthurmorgan8529
      @arthurmorgan8529 3 роки тому +170

      This is a very good point however there are both honourable and dishonourable traits in both choices. Choosing to kill them is revenge driven and more senseless murder however the O'Driscolls are horrible people who shamelessly murder women and children without reason so by finishing them off would enviably save a lot pf people from what they'd do to them. Theres good and bad in both

    • @nonethewiser4431
      @nonethewiser4431 3 роки тому +252

      I think it probably has less to do with revenge and more to do with helping Sadie. Arthur probably knew that Sadie would go after the O'driscolls with or without him but atleast if he goes along he can make sure she's safe and that she has someone to grieve with. Just my interpretation tho.

    • @A1_Amir
      @A1_Amir 3 роки тому +80

      It’s more of the fact that at this point in the game, when you come across that mission, it’s a matter of rationalizing where you put your violence too. To thoughtless killing like robbing banks? Or a sense of justice brought in for the better of a friend? That’s why I did Sadie’s mission, she was a friend and I was in redemption, it’s my duty to do right by others as a outlawed killer

    • @eclinvo4910
      @eclinvo4910 3 роки тому +47

      It's about helping someone that trusts you, instead of judging them. Abiding by your own terms shows that you care more about your ideals than helping Sadie, and in any other situation this would make no sense, but the game recognizes that the o'Driscoll's deserve no redemption.

    • @grandma650
      @grandma650 3 роки тому +5

      I completely agree

  • @CaptainBluePirate
    @CaptainBluePirate 2 роки тому +41

    salute to all the engineers programmers who put the effort and worked 8 years to make such a masterpiece

  • @Jupa
    @Jupa 3 роки тому +191

    It's worth noting that the Brother Dorkins missions are essential for some of these. I did a high honour playthrough but completely forgot to do the second Brother Dorkins mission in Chapter 4, if you set out on the Saint-Denis Bank Robbery without doing that, you won't have the opportunity again. If that happens then no matter what you do you will not get the Sister encounter at the end of The Fine Art of Conversation even with the highest honour. The Reverend neutral cutscene will take place. As well as most other cutscenes e.g bombing the bridge with Marston will only trigger the mid honour cutscenes and you miss out on the high honour cutscenes.
    Essentially if you miss out on the Brother Dorkins missions it leaves an irrevocable effect on the type of highest honour scenes you'd encounter. So yeah, make sure to have that completed prior to finishing chapter 4. It's a shame the game doesn't make it more clear.

    • @johnnydjiurkopff
      @johnnydjiurkopff 3 роки тому +14

      I was wondering why my high honor playthrough got the reverend.

    • @calangoraivoso9921
      @calangoraivoso9921 3 роки тому +2

      Mid honour? Those exist?

    • @PrinceGummy
      @PrinceGummy 3 роки тому +3

      @@calangoraivoso9921 no. 0 honor count as positive

    • @PrinceGummy
      @PrinceGummy 3 роки тому +14

      @@johnnydjiurkopff if you missed the Brother Dorkins and Sister Cauldron side mission strand, you'll always get Swanson.

    • @MrFusion
      @MrFusion Рік тому

      There's also the mission outside the church in Saint Denis in chapter 6, that one's easy to miss.

  • @LaLIRK
    @LaLIRK 2 роки тому +87

    The most disturbing part about this video is how clean shaven Arthur is... Jokes aside, great video. I can never bring myself to play low honor Arthur so I appreciate seeing these comparisons.

    • @MOJAHED-XAN
      @MOJAHED-XAN 2 роки тому +9

      I can't bring myself to play high honor Arthur because the story will sounds very soft not like the low one I feel like a real badass cowboy

    • @Michael-cg5qn
      @Michael-cg5qn 9 місяців тому +4

      @@MOJAHED-XANL take

    • @Skrenja
      @Skrenja 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Michael-cg5qn*W take.

  • @hound6171
    @hound6171 3 роки тому +233

    John death was brutal but dying of a disease that’s terrifying

    • @edgar2785
      @edgar2785 3 роки тому

      Oh do you mean of the first red dead redemption?

    • @sinningwithpfp6525
      @sinningwithpfp6525 3 роки тому +42

      @@edgar2785 noooo
      The third

    • @edgar2785
      @edgar2785 3 роки тому +3

      @@sinningwithpfp6525 that hasnt come out

    • @-Bishop-
      @-Bishop- 3 роки тому +19

      Yeah, arthur's death was more painful.

    • @Vephiren
      @Vephiren 3 роки тому +31

      John really had a chance to run away from both situations. Arthur didn’t.

  • @Eleganciaaaaaa
    @Eleganciaaaaaa 2 роки тому +139

    I love how you changed clothes and horses between low honor and high honor. The fact that you use red and the black Arabian for low honor to symbolize that Arthur’s a bad man, corrupted by greed and hate like the low honor symbol shows, while you use blue and the white Arabian to symbolize hope and purity for Arthur, just like the high honor symbol shows. I really like that about the video, it suits both honors well.

  • @brendangilbert3283
    @brendangilbert3283 3 роки тому +132

    I didn't really understand the difference between them until now, but I can see now that one of them is a pessimist and one of them is an optimist.
    Low-honor Arthur is a nihilistic killer that acknowledges everything is going to shit and refuses to change. When he finds out he's sick he fills his head with extremely negative thoughts about how fucked he is.
    High-honor Arthur on the other hand is a man full of hope. When he finds out he's sick he wonders if he could ever be a good man, and thinks of ways to possibly redeem himself.
    High-honor Arthur saves John because he *really* wants to, "I'll hold them off... it would mean a lot to me, please". Low-honor Arthur saves John because he doesn't see any other options or a reason to go further, "Here... just take it, it ain't no use to me now".

    • @Johnnoeu3
      @Johnnoeu3 2 роки тому

      What about going back for the money as high and low honor Arthur? What about average that he was evil at the beginning of the game, till he changed to be good (after he got Tb?)
      Neutral honor: Low Honor Arthur beginning of chapter 1-4 killing people, after Tb he start redeeming hisself he gains High Honor, the ending going back for the money, cutting Micah eye.

    • @buttwiperindawfulevil2256
      @buttwiperindawfulevil2256 Рік тому +1

      @@Johnnoeu3 that is canon to me. They should have changed the options in High honor. Maybe saying go for the money, they should have said kill Micah. The choices would have been much harder.

  • @sealguy2704
    @sealguy2704 3 роки тому +55

    Its cool how each of the small cutscences with Arthur writing in his notebook vary, Low honor Arthurs are grim and disturbing, while High Honor is Majestic and beautiful.

    • @heliax9924
      @heliax9924 2 роки тому +2

      pretty sure no one read the journal but the details are nice that they are

    • @doctorscarf8958
      @doctorscarf8958 2 роки тому +1

      @@heliax9924 "Cries in the corner"

    • @venicec3310
      @venicec3310 Рік тому +2

      @@heliax9924 i really enjoyed the journal entrees

    • @AdamOwenBrowning
      @AdamOwenBrowning Рік тому +3

      @@heliax9924 you never read the journal, that's what you mean. I love the damn thing and so do many players

    • @heliax9924
      @heliax9924 Рік тому +1

      @@AdamOwenBrowning Na i read it but i barelly seen any video covering the entrys it has and i love the entrys too

  • @nofearengineerwais4sb5
    @nofearengineerwais4sb5 2 роки тому +20

    i love how high honor arthur says "you got a family , you need cash" but low honor arthur says "you need cash you got a family" the cash is first on low honor arthur

  • @xxtoptigerxx8758
    @xxtoptigerxx8758 3 роки тому +29

    Thank you for making me tear up again. Man I love this game so much. Arthur is amazing and all of the nature and wildlife badassery this game has is awesome. If I could choose to a game to forget about and play all over again it would be this game.

    • @TheRealDG01
      @TheRealDG01 2 роки тому

      On my 3rd playthrough. I feel the exact same way if I could play it through for the “first time again” It would be awesome

  • @Nord..
    @Nord.. 2 роки тому +77

    honestly i think the buck was a good option to represent high honor, firstly because they're strong and defensive, but try to run before trying to fight (much like running away from a duel instead of fighting it gives you high honor). But also because you're less likely to see a buck than a wolf, representing a diamond in the rough, and how it is easier to be dishonorable than honorable.

    • @Matthewgaming20
      @Matthewgaming20 2 роки тому +14

      Wolfs are honourable thats a coyote scavengers killing weak animals and cowards

    • @XXXTENTAClON227
      @XXXTENTAClON227 2 роки тому +8

      That’s meant to be a coyote, aka a scavenger.

  • @FOXY-ly3oh
    @FOXY-ly3oh Рік тому +20

    you forgot one, in the american venom mission:
    If Arthur dies with high honor, John says: "Arthur saved my life, more than once"
    If Arthur dies with low honor, John says: "Arthur wasn't a good man, but he saved my life"

    • @MikaJNofz
      @MikaJNofz 8 місяців тому +1

      What that's so cool

  • @cashtache
    @cashtache 3 роки тому +41

    Wow, high honor seems to have a much more cohesive narrative! Glad I went with that on my playthrough.

  • @green25459
    @green25459 2 роки тому +34

    With LH, it feels as if Arthur not only loses faith in dutch, but that he also renounces his teachings and philosophy. While with HH, I have more empathy for dutch because the story makes it seem like he went crazy and got corrupted by Micah.

  • @ganesharavind3903
    @ganesharavind3903 3 роки тому +49

    1:37
    Low honor Arthur: Writes about Keiran
    High honor Arthur: SADIEEEE!

    • @speedox1.0
      @speedox1.0 3 роки тому +18

      Yeah, I hate that. I generally like High honor but this dialogue in particular is super cringy.

    • @sanatoriumnugget6598
      @sanatoriumnugget6598 3 роки тому +2

      No

  • @nomethodonlymadness9528
    @nomethodonlymadness9528 3 роки тому +17

    I like these videos because I can't bring myself to play Arthur with low honor, so this shows me what I miss.

  • @wysper6512
    @wysper6512 3 роки тому +35

    I redeemed my Aurthur by releasing fish.👍

  • @K.Adler1120
    @K.Adler1120 2 роки тому +13

    I love the change in reasoning! High honor Arthur is disgusted that Strauss is making him take from people who have absolutely nothing and he feels sympathy for them, but low honor Arthur is mad at Strauss because he is going out to get absolutely nothing instead of collecting high amounts of debt. So freaking cool! And when he tells that man “shut up” in HH, it’s like he’s saying “please don’t make me feel worse than I already do, this is hard enough” but in LH it’s like “stop wasting my time just hand it over already”

  • @Chill_Goat18
    @Chill_Goat18 3 роки тому +35

    damn low honnor Arthur only cares abaut the money in beaver hallow i mean he didnt save Abigail for Jack only for the money good thing i only play high honor Arthur

  • @renyckrobertson8821
    @renyckrobertson8821 2 роки тому +73

    I cried my eyes out the first time I saw the conversation with the sister. Arthur saying he was afraid and his expression after just hit me in the gut…before I saw a fearless and stoic character that sticks to his morals no matter what the player chooses. He will forever be my favorite character in any form of media and rdr2 will always be my favorite game as it was there and gave me laughs, cry, smile, and frown…it helped me feel things in a time where I didn’t feel much. Arthur will always be my comfort character as he, for lack of a better term, comforted me when there wasn’t much comfort in my life mentally.

    • @king_isshiki
      @king_isshiki Рік тому +2

      Cringe.

    • @venicec3310
      @venicec3310 Рік тому

      Fr how we all feel about our own demise

    • @AdamOwenBrowning
      @AdamOwenBrowning Рік тому +5

      @@king_isshiki omg people liking things from art and fiction is cringe. booo this man said he feels something!
      nice Naruto-themed youtube account, that's definitely not ten times as cringe as this dude's post lol. 25 year old anime designed for children are definitely less cringe than this. have a bit of self-awareness and a bit of respect towards a lad expressing himself

    • @king_isshiki
      @king_isshiki Рік тому

      @@AdamOwenBrowning Take a rope.

    • @king_isshiki
      @king_isshiki Рік тому

      @@AdamOwenBrowning You need a rope.

  • @ReportedEye
    @ReportedEye 2 роки тому +15

    Listening to Arthur's voice in both parts I now realize that in the low honner cutscenes his voice is deeper. It's a nice little detail that I like

  • @surfinturf4620
    @surfinturf4620 3 роки тому +48

    That Stalker hat is just badass ain't it!🤠

    • @pearsemolloy9656
      @pearsemolloy9656 3 роки тому +14

      I think Arthur’s default hat looks the best every other hat I tried just didn’t really look good on him

    • @saggyshaggy3272
      @saggyshaggy3272 Рік тому +2

      ​@@pearsemolloy9656I feel the same way

  • @deadchannel1289
    @deadchannel1289 3 роки тому +22

    Pretty cool that reverend swanson is scared of you in the train scene if you have low honor but hangs his head in shame and as if he is disapproved of in high honor