Ez bang li hemî kurdên cîhanê dikim ku bibin yek û hevgirtî .. vê yekê bizanin ku dê kes sûdê nede we .. Xwîna mezin a ku hûn hewce ne di xwîna weya hêja de ye.
گوه نخور ب بته لر و بختیاری و کرد اقوام جدا و همه شون مثل همه اقوام اصیل دیگه ایرانی و ایرانی تبار هستند ، دست بکشید از ای کوووونی بازی هاتون و ملت سازی بیهوده
ZAZA, LORI ,EZEDI, HAWRAMI, KURMANJI, BADINI, FELI. HEME KURD HESTEN . EM HEMI KURDEN U DE KURD BIN NEELETA XODE LE SER NYARET PIS U XOIN XAR BIT. MERIN BO NYARET KURD U KURDISTANE. BIJIT KURD BIJIT KURDISTAN EM DE HER SER KEVEN BIJIT AZADYA GEL❤❤❤
In fact, the Lors are the most authentic Persians from the people of Cyrus the Great, i.e. Pars And the Kurds are from the Medes These two Aryan peoples who are in the western half of the Iranian plateau along with the Parthian people who are in the eastern half are the three big peoples that make up the great Iran. The first strong government among these three peoples is related to the Medes, but the first government that was able to unite all three groups and expand it on the level of the ancient world was Persia, and this is how the first great world government was formed under the name of Achaemenids by Cyrus the Great, and for this reason, all Iranians are still generally called Persians.
Thank you for posting the Lorastan tradition . I love it because my ancestors are from Lorastan . Amazing people of Lorastan and beautiful music love 💕 Lorastan.
During last few decades Iranian regimes tries to separate Lurs from Kurdistan but as a Kurmanj Kurd I believe we are same with Lurs and other groups/branches of Kurdish people.
دوست عزیز لرها کهن ترین مردمان ساکن زاگرس میانی و فلات ایران هستن و قومی کاملا جدا از کردها هستن تشابهات فرهنگی دارن ولی در عین حال دو قوم کاملا جدا هستند ❤❤
الله الله. والله بكيت. عندما. سمعت كلمات الاغنيه. لانني من مدينه مندلي العراقيه،،،،،اتذكر جدا. عندما. كان. جدي وجدتي. لامي. يتكلمو. هذه اللهجه. لا اعرف بالظبط. ماخذي اللهجه. لكننا. والله. بكيت. لانني تذكرت اجدي ❤❤❤❤❤
Do the people of Lorestan see yourself as related to the Kurds if we go far way back in time, and then devided to different ”history trees”? Or did the kurds and Lores never connect directly? Thank you and greetings from a curious Swede 🇸🇪 Beautiful video! 🎉
My husband is Lur. He always strongly points that they are not the same and never been the same. He actually knows Lurs nearer to Persians than Kurds and believes Kurds have started considering them as Kurds in recent years. So, in historic perspective they were always separated. I am from Iran and my major is related to these matters. As an Iranian we always consider Kurds and Lurs so seperated. Their language, clothes, lifestyle, religion, behaviors all are different clearly. 2 of my classmates were Kurd and Lur and they were not even friends! My Lur classmate was Bakhtiari and her best friend was Turk, while my Kurd friend was from Uraman and some of her relatives were in Iraq and she also doesn't know the other friend as Kurd. My other classmate was from Kermanshah where both Lurs and Kurds live together she also doesn't know the Bakhtiari friend Kurd! But the Ourami yes! In Iran it is so famous that Lur people have always strong role to defend Iran and love Iran. Bibi Maryam Bakhtiari, Shir Alimardoon Bakhtiari are two of our heroes and theirs names and memories have entered to the local songs of Lur people. On the other hand, Lur people in Iraq have assimilated in Kurdish society and because of Kurds advertisment you think Lurs might historically related to Kurds! During last year, two Lur children were killed by Islamic republic: Nika Shakarami, Kiyan Pirfalak. Those families showed their loyalty to Iran like their ancestors while Kurds didn't even say Lur people any thanks or feel sad of them!
turkey claim zazas and tons of kurmanci clans are not kurds, iraq claims yazidis, feylis and shabaks are not kurds, iran claims lurs and laks are not kurds. these claims' goals are same anyone who have enough iq can understand it. scholars in mediaval era like ibn al athir, yakut al hamawi said lurs are kurds. even eskandar beg monshi a chronicle of shah abbas of safavids wrote lurs and kurd together when introduce shah abbas great emir and begs in his book history of shah abbas. "Kurds and Lors. Seventeen emirs with the rank of khan or sultan. (37) yoseyn Khan AbbasI of Lor-e Feyll,* the beglerbeg of Lorestan and an emir especially favored by the Shah. (38) Khan Abmad Khan Ardalan b. Holow Khan, the beglerbeg of SahrezQr and one of the great emirs. (39) Kalll Khan b. Jahangir Khan, governor of Lor-e Baktiarl. ’Formerly Lor-e KOt’ek; see TM, p. 172. ...." iran made success and tons of lurs don't feel themselves as kurd and claim they are not kurd but it is not about how they can feel themselves. historically they are kurds because chronicles and geographer of the past time considered them as kurds. they were kurds about maybe 2bin years everyone said they are kurds. you can't chanced it because new ones don't want it.
Did kurds say go and die for mahsa amini? For whaz thanks... you gypsies never had war ..you lurs were in history partly afghan and partly armenian dna proofs... laks feylis are not lur are kurd and bakhtiaris were from hasnawiyah and fadlawi kurmanj kurds of syria and turkey ... who are lurs?? Lur a gypsy tribe in afghanistan... officialy a gypsy tribe.. in history lurs had changed several times religion and language... like typically iranians wothout chatacter when they come to europe and tell them lyes like we converted to christianity please give us asylum.. so you talk after that bullsh.... strong ties?? Even a cameleon has not so much colours than lur changed... tfuuu bishakhsiyat bigheyrate lur iraniha @@aryana7253
This poem is in Lori language, which is one of the oldest Aryan peoples: It is raining. It is raining. At this time, put your hand in mine so we can go home. You are like a flower in my garden. You are my eyes and my light. You are the light of my house. You are my companion and my love.
Certainly, a part of the Illyrians, warriors of Alexander the Great, remained during the conquest of Persia by Alexander, when he defeated Xerxes. They may have preserved the white hat that Albanians call "PLIS," as well as the drum and flute, and the lahuta, three instruments that are present here just as in Albania, Kosovo, and throughout the Balkans where Albanians live. The same can be observed among the inhabitants of the Pamir, Hunza, and Kalash people in the region of Afghanistan and China.
Yemin olsun ki biz kardeşiz çünkü biz bize benziyoruz biz sizinle aynı kaynaktan akiyoruz biz sizinle aynı medendeyiz ben bir KÜRDÜM KÜRTÇEnin Kurmanci lehçesini konuşuyoruz sizleri aşk ile niyaz ediyorum 🙏🥲
@Shirpialuresu you nazi pers, you know very well, there is kurdistan and live only kurds, no 1 persian. Occupater dictators will left labd of kurds. You will see in the next years
@@Kasra1881 what is your mother language? What kind a language have speak your parents, grand mother, grandfather..? Id lor language different from kurmanci, sorani kurdish...?
@Magic 666 دوست عزیز با این تعاریف پیش پا افتاده قومیت تعریف نمیشه. اعراب هم رقص گروهی دارن اگر بنا به این باشه. ما یک فرهنگ مشترک ایرانی داریم و در وهله ی اول اون باید قرار بگیره و لرها و کردها همسایه های دیرین هستن و قطعا از هم تاثیر پذیرفتن و رسوم مشترک زیادی هم دارن ولی این تاثیر در بین همسایه ها عادی هست
it exists a forgotten ancient connection of iran (antique media kingdom) with the eastern-carpathian regions, mainly with the hutsul people who are living there (in romanian suceava, maramures & ukrainian ivano-frankivsk, chirnivci, zakarpatia), they were called in 1100 AD huci tribe (later came an romanian -ul ending). hutsuls have earliest roots which goes way back to the median busi tribe who were listed by herodot (lived around 450 BC) as one of the ancient westiranic median tribes the busae. an oldiranic typicalness of some languages/dialects was that not rarely the bh sound shifted to h sound: busi>husi/huzi>huci & some variations of hutsul in romania are huzul or hutan. herodotus the historian wrote about colonists from media called sigunians (shuhani is the main luri dialect & the lurs counts as one of the descendants of the antique medes) who settled before herodot's time in transylvania. sigynians wore median clothing, had many median customs and they themselfes said (to herodot) they are descendants of the medes. i can bring some proofs/facts/wordsimilarities/explainings/theorizations to show the direct connection of proto-hutsuls with the medes, concretely median busae tribe & the sigynnian branch who settled in westromania. genetically hutsuls are in first case a mixture of dacians+vlahs+slavs but from their origin (the old substrat) an iranic sigynnian people. about when these median colonists sigynians came to transylvania exist 2 options, they left their homeland and moved via turkey to there around 630 BC (when kyaxares were made for 28 years to a vassal in his own kingdom) or 540 BC (when the median kingdom collapsed and persians took over). the historian strabo (63BC-23AD) wrote about siginians who lived in the southwestern caspia sea/western elborz-mountains region (by the way elborz and east-carparthian areas look in some places similar) like gilan, mazandaran, ardabil, zanjan, qazwin, these siginians were the ones who stayed in media and didn't leave like herodot's sigynnes. strabo said about these ones that in general they practise persians' customs and he mentioned like herodot their small horses race which were shaggy long haired flat-nosed/short-snooted ponies that pulled a chariot/cart in a four-horse-team, maybe that small horse race is related to the eastcarpathian hutul-horses/ponies (as a newer mixed breeding that originated from the sigynnian horses). i go back to the topic with proofs that the hutsuls were in fact of iranic median sigynian origin, the ethnicon itself (besides the most possible explaining that it comes from the median busi tribe name & a s to ts dialectical sound-shift existed sometimes in ukraine too) has also another 4 theories of it's meaning (until today nobody could proof what the ethnonym hucul really means), the 4 other theories what it means are all median cognates: 1. it comes from the gilaki word for "mountain"="quh", that could lead to guh+ul(noun ending) so the huculian ethnonym would mean "people from the mountains". 2. gilaki word "houz" for "lake" would mean hutsuls are "people who live by the lake" 3. northern garmsiri word "guch"="ram/ibex/capricorn/battering-ram/mountain-goat" would mean ghuculs are "people associated with rams/got something to do with rams" 4. gilaki word "ghut" for "immersion" would mean "(water)divers/aquanauts". herodot speculated what the name sigynni could mean from what he heared or knew, he used to associate the name with the meaning "spear" and on the other hand with "traders/hucksters". the proto-hutsul ethnos was surely formed in the maramures region and some bordering north-transilvania areas/northwest-romania where the sigynians sometime between 100-500 AD mixed with the surrounding dacian population & vlahian shepherds, a bit later came the slavic component(tiverians & whitecroats) into their ethnogenesis mainly in the ukraine-romanian bordering regions since 600 AD. sigunnians had 2000 years ago surely 2 median identities: the word siguni has to be the same as shuhani, what means one of the main dialects of lur people aka western-luri language, so it showed their median branch language-identity, but the other identity was the tribe-identity, the word that would later become the ethnicon hucul what means they had seen themselfes as belonging to the husi/huzi/huci tribe what is a dialectical changing of the word busi, their busae tribe identity. also i think that the meaning "sigynni" can all in all be understood as "people who are originally from a stony mountainous area or region" cuz if you take a talishi etymology for that then "sygh" is "stone" (or the dezfuli word for "stone"="seg") or if you take the kurdish etymology then "chiya/shah" is "mountain". talishi plural-suffix -un speaks also for a talishi alike dialect that formed the word "sigunni"(how appolonios wrote the ethnonym). in iran are mostly the galeshi people but also kurds or qashqais known for beeing pastoral-seminomadic like hutsuls are it often too. galeshi people could ethnically fit as descendants in first case of strabo's siginians if not the lurs (by the way the lurish traditional women's headscarf style is very similar to the hutsulian one) if sigynnian really stands for "mountain-man"(like galeshis who are an ethnicity whose homeland are the whole alborz mountains & they speak around 4 dialects who belong to both gilaki & mazandarani languages) and not for "person from the susanian region"(where in first case live the lurs that means the land shushan that was mentioned in the bible), but the name sigynni could speak rather for a proto-kurdish dialect origin if it comes from the word mountain=chiya/shah (in the case that sigynni is not the same as shuhani from the western luri territory or in other words if it doesn't mean proto-luri people or the western-part of them). herodot's sigynnians really could be people who mixed on the way with other different west-migrating iranians (rather from mountainous areas). the word for an "inhabitant of the mountains" in hutsulian itself is "sus", maybe the etymology of that word (in the case if it's not symbioticly identical with kurdish "shax"="mountain"/"qysh"="rock") and also of the name sigynn and even hutsul really goes back to the name of the ancient metropolis susa (today shush) from the copper-age and the region susiana where that city was included (through mixing the meaning? because susa's etymology is unknown but the region has actually enough mountainous areas too & it is strongly assumed that around 500 BC in susiana were spoken both languages median and elamitic/hatamitic because a textual sources study shows that in the neoassyrian period not only media but also further to the west like elamitic areas had a population with iranian-speakers often as majority and most sources say the whole susiana was 2600 years ago part of the median kingdom but some sources say only the northern/eastern susiana areas or that susiana was after the elamitic reign only part of assyrian and babylonian kingdoms idk wich ones are true) and used were also the names shushun, shushan & sugan, today susiana is the province xuzestan and was called already by persians from achaemenidic times hujiya & huziya, susi(ana)/xuze(stan) remind of the word sus(=mountain-inhabitant=hutsul?) and the ethnonym hutsul that is also often spelled husul(husanesc) & huzul(huzulei) is without the newer romanian ending huts/huz/hus but in that region itself is known a doubtable folk etymology for the word "xuzi" explained as "sugar manufacturer" or "sugar cane cultivator", so far one can just only speculate whether sigynnes & hutsuls have something to do with susiana or not because the shuhan district lies not in the historical susiana region but in ilam (xuzistan's northern neighbour province) and the luri shuhani dialect is also mainly spoken in ilam and not in xuzistan, it's more realistic that shuhan(i) is directly connected with sigynn(i) while susiana was surely lesser populated with medes...................
the following words are typical hutsulian & have ties to westiranic median modern descendants' languages: an interessting exclusive huculian word (that is not to be found in ukrainian language) with etymological ties to neo-median(=luri/gilaki/balochi/kurdi/behdinani/laki/garmsiri/sohi/zazaki/mazandarani/sivandi/semnani/talishi/tonekaboni/kiliti/tati/rudbari/kaviri/raji/dezfuli/shahmirzadi) cause it sounds related to these 2 gilaki words by meaning "hooz"(lake/pond) & "ghut"(immersion/diving) is the huculian word "ghuk" and means "waterfall", further it's also connected with the taleshi verb "hynj-/hänj-" what means "to drink", "ghuk" is also related to the verb of south-tati kiaraji dialect & soi/sohi language "hönj-" meaning "to water/to sprinkle". another huculian word is "kutüga"(also "kotüga") and means "dog" while in the luri language "katu" & in kurdish "kuti" and "kuchik" is "dog", these words are really close to each other. a huculian word (not in ukrainian language again) for "farm-animals/domestic-animals/livestock-animals" is "marga" what you can compare to the luri word "morg" for "chicken" and galeshi word "märg" for "hen" what surely is related together, "marga" might be also related to the sorani-kurdish "manga"="cow" because also in the tati language the word for "cow" is "marägou" (but that word could have in a symbiotic way the part -gou as the meaning cow), in mazandarani "magu" means "cow" and "marshan" means "young cow", hutsulian "marga"(sometimes is also used the variation "marzhina") belongs definitely to median dialects from origin because only indo-iranic languages have that word "morg" and in no other indoeuropean languages you can find it. then of course the romanian and hutsulian word "branza" & "bryndza" (in the 14th century also as a variation with a ch sound brancha) is translated as "cheese", also often as "cream-cheese", it's a word from the romanian and southwest-ukraine bordering carpathians & many romanians, hutsuls and ukrainians try to find the origins of that word, i searched for the translations of the word cheese in the most languages and no language has a similar word for cheese like branza, so it sure don't came from slavic or romance languages, the only language i found that has similarities with that word is the westiranic balochi word "ponch" for "curd/cream-cheese/cancoillotte/processed cheese/pot-cheese/junket-cheese/strained yogurt-cheese/quarg/cooking-cheese/farmer-cheese/runny cheese", so if you look that in the 14th century the word branza/brynza(commonly variation bronza) had also a ch sound variation, then broncha would be really close to the balochi ponch and has the same meaning, but also important is that it is connected to an other hutsulian word, to "banosh", a traditional dish of hutsul cuisine, a "porridge/gruel cooked in sour cream"(pork and cheese are mostly also added), both banosh/banush & branza/brynza/bryndzya are originally from the carpathian hutsul region and other neighbouring regions or countries adopted that food, but etymologically both words are westiranic median proto-balochi closest related in their origin, "banush" is a creamy porridge (mostly prepared from cornmeal) and etymologically identical to balochi "ponch"="cream curd cheese/processed cream-cheese/cooked cheese/soft processed cheese" cuz i principially see the etymology of ponch & branza & banosh as connected with the meaning cream,mash,curd,yoghurt,porridge,puree,creamcheese,pesto,paste,gruel,ect. as their roots and not with the meaning real cheese or directly corn groats, but the possibility that "banush" originated from another western-iranic word of mazandaranian kojuri dialect "bänj"="rice" can't be excluded too. the second hutsulian word for "cheese" is "budz", that word is also related to balochi "ponch"="processed curd cheese", budz & brynza are both of a cheesetype that is rather something between mozzarella and feta-cheese and cottage-cheese while the balochi ponch i think is more like the greek labneh creamcheese......................
when hutsuls are in the final phase of manufacturing cheese they put saltwater on it and that "saltwater" is called "sorovicya"(-ovicya is a slavic female noun-ending that means it is made of sor-), the luri word "sur" for "salty" and kurmanji-kurdish "shor" for "salty" are very close to that hutsulian word-root, these westiranic words "sur"/"shor" and hutsulian "sor-" are identical and of the same median origin (it's also often called in the ukrainian manner "syrovicya" then it's more compareable with the natanz region's dialectical word "shir"="salty"), sigynnians influenced also the romanian language because the romanian word for "salt" is "sare" (while in latin "salis" is "salt"). a typical ukrainian word what means untypical for the other slavic languages (really possibly borrowed by ukrainians from the carpathian regions where hutsuls live) is the word "gharniy"="great/super/terrific/prodigious/bodacious/grandiose" which can be compared to the garmsirian bashkardi word "gohrt"="big" or kurdish "gaura"="big" or zazaki "giran"="great", but better would be to see in first case the balochi word "shar"="good"(sometimes also "beautiful") as of the same origin/roots/meaning with the ukrainian "gharniy"="good/great/fine/nice/excellent/wonderful/brilliant/super/fantastic/marvelous/magnificent/awesome/swell/dandy/bodacious/terrific/prodigious/outstanding/grandiose/splendid/admireable/amazing/gorgeous/stunning/beautiful", most close related to the ukrainian "gharniy/gharno/gharna"(-niy/-no/-na is an adjective ending)="good" is mazandarani "xar"="good/fine", kurdish "haure" for "friend" is surely also connected with that word-root, in hutsulian you can say "gharen"="good (in the scence of helpful/worthful/useful/needable)" and it's origin goes back together with balochi "shar"="good" & kurdish "gaura"="big" to elamitic "rshara"="great". that bashkardi-garmsirian word "gohrt" fits really good to another typical ukrainian word "gurt"="group", a group is big so synonymous to the meaning big/large, in kashan county (part of isfahan province in central-iran) is used the local word "gurd" for "big", the zazaki equivalent is "gyrd" & the mazandarani one "gat" & the raji one "gord", the zazaki word for "group/drove" is "garan" and tajiki for "group/team" is "gurökh", by the way that word "gurt" i really think has etymological ties to the ethnonym "kurd" cuz there are 2 versions explaining the ethnonym of the kurds either with the meaning collected group/extensive group of related tribes/people-group or a more chauvinistic meaning like the big ones/huge and strong people=xurt (of course the most common theories about kurds' ethnonym is that it came from an adopted word from iraq "kard" meaning "nomad" used by arabs and persians for kurds or it came from the name of a mountain range in southeast-turkey "gudi/gurdi/giordi"), but there is also kurdish "gurz" & "xurdjik" for "bundle/sheaf/bunch/bale/batch/fardel/bavin/bing/wad/faggot/posy/bouquet/cluster/wisp/bindle/shiralee/sheave/fascicle/pack/stack/stock/tuft" what plays also a role in the etymology or meaning of ukrainian "gurt" & another kurdish word "girde"="collected/composite/compounded" or "giredai"="bound/tied/bonded/linked/ligated/trussed/attached/twined/annexed/hitched/corded/knotted/combined/enlaced/connected/fixed/enmeshed/clasped/catenated" too, probably together with two other kurdish words "gerdene"="collar" & "gerdani"="jewelry-chain/collier"(these 2 are rather not in the direct scence connected with the meaning of gurt). the hutsulian and ukrainian word/equivalent "gerdan" itself with nearly the same meaning "traditional decorative loombead-collar"(as part of the costume) sounds the same in persian "gerdan" but in persian the meaning is "neck" like in turkish and crimea-tataric (these laguages adopted that word from persian) who are assumed by many etymologists to have brought that word to west-ukraine (some also say it came from hungary to ukraine) but possible is that sigynnians already brought that word with the same meaning like in kurdish (gerdene & gerdani) to the carpathians long time before that. there's another word that is only typical for ukraine "khata"="house" what shares the same origin/meaning as the yazdi-behdinani word "khäda/khda"="house" and sorani-kurdish "ghat"="house".....................
the hutsulian word "daraba"="raft/float/catamaran/bobber" is generally of westiranic origin (maybe also with some influence or a bit fusion of slavic in that word), it seems that "daraba" is identical to oldpersian "daraya"="sea/river" and the second meaning of "daraya" in oldpersian was "holder", it's possible that from a mix of slavic "korab"(or romanian "corabie")="ship" + achaemenidic westiranic "daraya"="sea/river"(the second definition "holder" could really be also included as a factor in the scence "something that holds one on the water") resulted "daraba" (for example in german is the word for river nearly the same as for float/raft too), in balochi "daryab" means "sea", there is a similar word in kurdish "derav" for "water-channel/watercourse/water-ditch", furthermore could played a relevant role for daraba's etymological process kurdish "därabe"="podestal/podium/stairtop/landing/landing-platform/landing-place/dais/base/socle/platform/stage/stand/resting-place/stage-riser/plinth/enclosure/palisade/stockade/paling/railing/fence/louver/grating/grid/lattice/grille/trellis/graticule/espalier/fender/handrail/parapet/tafferel/banister/rail/breastwork/barrier/blockage/cove", on the other hand is in first case "daraba" most likely a combination of 2 westiranic words (like tajiki or persian) "daro"+"aba" and would be understood as the "enter/input/influx/addition/entrance/lead-in/ushering/insertion/interpolation/inlet/access/ingress/way-in/passage/pass/transition/transit/transference/committal/admission/admittance/accession/bringing-in/reaching/entry (for or to) the water", but more possible is the combination of kurdish "dar"="wood/timber/lumber" + "ab"="water"(also romanian "apa"="water" is here possible because it's surely an iranic sigynnian word that came into the proto-romanian language), that would be resulted in "water-wood/water-timber" (in the scence of a water-board), one last possibility is behdinani "dyr"+"aw", what you can understand as "something for being distant in the water" or "something that gets far via the water", i think the more plausible etymology of daraba is the kurdish combi variant. the ukrainian and hutsulian "kulish"="thick soup/pottage/millet porridge with meat,mushrooms,tomatoes"(in the carpathian version the porridge is done sometimes from maize) is said to be mostpossibly of hungarian "köles" origin but alternatively it can be of westiranic median origin when you compare it with northern kurdish "kelink"="cooking/boiling/simmering/seething"/"keli"="scalded/cooked/fumed/heated", that kulish/kulesha/kulisha/köles is of median proto-kurdish dialect origin can proof the word-meaning if you compare it with some other indoeuropean languages' meaning of the words millet & grits and related words to millet like germanic hirse(=millet), gries(=semolina) & grütze(=grits) or slavic grechka(=buckwheat), these words have originally the meaning "made warm/heated" so very close to kurdish "keli" by meaning, but etymologically are kulish and köles very close to "keli" or "kelink", that dish has to be originally from southwest-ukraine/northwest-romania (most likely transcarpatia) so many hungarians have lived in the western border-near zone there in some times, the balochi word for "wheat" is "galla" and seems to be related to hutsulian "kulesha/kulish" too, wheat are grains from which can be made wheat-grits/wheat-porridge/wheat-gruel so it's similar to kulish. an ukrainian verb that came at least 1000 years ago from southwest-ukraine/north-romania into the language is "shanuvati"(-vati=verb-ending)="to be a fan/admirer/liker/follower/honourer/lover/appreciator of someone" and has roots in iran, it's identical to persian "jan"="dear/liked/adored/favoured one" & "soul" but in older persian 2000 years ago it sounded like "hyan", the kurdish equivalent is "chan" and "chänik", in ukrainian dictionary "shana" is translated as "the feeling of being esteemed", also the romanian word "chinsti"="to honour/esteem/appreciate/adore/value/respect" proofs that the original word (of shanuvati/shana & chinsti) was from east-carpathians/north-romania because you can see that -sti is a word-ending and that word is surely not of a romance language origin and also fit well together chinsti with kurdish chänik, oldpersian hyan & ukrainian shana, the germany/poland-theory about that word is not right, on the other hand has the balochi word "shan"="glory" an obvious relation with "shana" & "chinsti" too (beeing glorified & beeing esteemed is nearly synonymous) and that word has a possible relation to balochi "jwan"="good". in western-ukraine is sometimes used the dialectical word "chugha"="ungrown mountain", it's related either to gilaki "quh"="mountain" or talishi "sygh"="stone" (taleshi and gilaki are neighbour-languages from northwestern iran) or kudish "chiya/shah"="mountain" or kurdish "qyj/qysh"="rock", to notice is that the bashkardi word for "stone"="sah" sounds similar to the kurdish word for "mountain"="shah", but that talishi word "sygh" is of the same origin and close in meaning related to another word, to hutsulian "chughilo"(-ilo is an noun-ending with adjective character)="notch or indentation in a stone" and "flowstone", both ("sygh" & "chugh-") have actually the meaning "stone", they are similar so hutsulian "chughilo" is of median talishi-alike (atropatena-media) dialect origin, but also of proto-kurdish origin because there's a kurdish word "qax"="indentation in a stone or rock", it is even much closer in the meaning to "chughilo" than the talishi word. another hutsulian word is "dyadühna"(-na is an adjective ending but it's an noun)="fever", there's a good possibility that it's of westiranic median origin because it could be identical to balochi "thäf"="fever" or kurdish "tehn"="temperature/warmness" or on the other side it could be related to kurdish "derd"="illness/disease/affliction/dejection/agony/suffering" (if you see -ühna as a word-ending), kurdish "derd" is maybe also related to hutsulian "didko"="devil/satan", -ko is in ukraine an adjective ending in the scence of -alike and a male-name ending so it could fit to a personification..................
the ukrainian and hutsulian word "gudzik"="button" came really sure from median leki and zazaki alike dialects, you can compare "gudzik" with zazaki "gozage"="button" & leki "gijik"="button". the second meaning of "gudzik" or "gudz" in hutsulian and ukrainian is "knot", it's close connected with kurdish "gurz/xurjik"="sheaf/bundle" & "giredai"="bound/tied" (and they have likely the elamitic verb "harak-"="to press" as their origin and they could also be related to elamitic "sarra-"="to assemble") that means with the meaning "something that is tied up tightly" but the r disapeared in hutsulian "gudz(ik)" (probably like for example the r from kurdish "derd" disapeared in the hutsulian "dãdühna"). the hutsulian word "galica" or "galicya" for "snake/serpent" and "gala" when it's a "viper/asp/adder" could be identical with the persian meaning and etymology "lair/den/animal's construction or burrow/fox's earth/hidey-hole/bolthole/safehaven/cocooning/loophole/shelter/covering/layer/coating/sediment/seepage/ooze/silt/alluvial sand/quicksand/driftsand/fluidized sand/flowing ground/mud/squidge/brickearth/clay/sludge/slurry/slop/pulpy mass/barbotine/engobe/muck/loam/gunk/pise/quarry/argil/mushy dirt/soggy soil/alluvium/suspension-load/grime/slush/slime/pug/gunge/gloop/sloshy mess/silting/casting-slip/slipperiness/messy semifluid matter" and is called "gel" in persian, that word has a characteristical connection to hutsulian "galica" because a snake has a behaviour/comportment/nature/character/attributes/properties/features/peculiarities/appearence/look that fits to persian "gel" like for example in the scence of behavior 'sliding/gliding/burrowing/crawling/wriggling/slipping/seeping into or under something like sand or soft earth (like dug soil) or a hole or a pile (of leaves)', also are many snake-kinds (like pythons,gaboon-vipers,copperheads,green-anacondas,some boas,some cobras,etc.) known for 'having a coloured camouflage' (some are even known for changing their colour between day and night), a snake is 'often in a hideout or camouflaged'(delitescence) so another word the kurdish "hilan"="hidden/preserved" have to be also related to it, or in the scence of appearence/look & palpation/tactuality but also style of the motion/agility/movement 'slick/slippery/smooth/glibbery/squidgy/supple/sleek/sludgy/squishy/slippy/slithery/pliant/pliable/malleable/gungy/smeary', a snake is (or moves) as 'flexible as one can knead muddy clay', so -ica in "galica" is a later slavic female noun-ending that was combined with "gal-" what is related (via sigynnian language intermixing in the east-carpathians) to persian "gel" and kurdish "hilan" (verb "hilanin"="to hide oneself from someone") and also to zazaki "chale"="pit/burrowed or digged hole/groundhole/hollow/cavern/cavity/fosse/rift/trench/shaft/duct/slot/underground mineshaft/burrow/gully/excavation space/dig/recess/foxhole/sewer/ditch/dugout-shelter/funk-hole/pothole/delve/lacuna/grave/graben/sump/tailrace", i see here similarities with the kurdish verb for "to burrow/dig/grub/excavate/trench/mine/carve out/delve/sink/scoop/gouge/rift"="kolin" & kurdish "qälish"="cleavage/splitting" & kurdish "xali"="hollow/cupped/vacant/concave" & kurdish "kulek"="grave", further relevant could be here for seeing better the whole spectrum the kurdish "qul"="hole" and kurdish "gol"="heap/pile/stack/accumulation/deck/spoil/overburden/load/mass/mound/soil-embankment/deposit/detritus/rubble/landfill/tip/midden/termitarium/molehill/dumped material/scrapheap/manure-hill/compost-mound/discharged bulk material/bulk commodity/bulk-items/staple-goods", also important to mention is kurdish "qalik" for "shuck/husk/pod/case/legume/capsule/sleeve/peel/shell/rind/carapace/cortex/peeling/periderm/furfur/scab/crust/bark" and that seems to share a close related meaning and etymology with the persian word "gheld"="shell/case/cover/husk/peel/dust-jacket/wrapping/pod/casing/packaging/cocoon/outerlayer/cover-sleeve/sheet/shielding/envelope/protective film/peelable coating/sheath/key-pouch/encasement/jacket-flap/mailer/courier mailing bag/shipping cover/file/document-protector/binder/sachet/gusset-bag/wrapper/giftpaper/insulation-membrane/tarpaulin/shrinkwrap/poly-liner/pack-pod/clamshell/fomentation-pack/wrap-compress/turn up cuff/insulating protecting material" or persian "gelaf"="etui/carry-case/glasses-case/passport-wallet/purse/travel-pouch/jewelry-casket/dopp-kit/pencil-box/tabatiere/needle-tin/cycling-softcase/sheath/clutch/organizer-bag/coffret", appropriate to it is also "veil"="xäli" in kurdish, noteworthy could be persian "galiz"="viscid/viscous/sizy/ropy/syrupy/molassesy/tight/dense/hampered/bulky/rubbery/gooey/poor-flowing/slow-flowing/sticky/tenacious/stodgy/pappy/chunky" what is probably close related to persian "helt"="mucus/sputum/phlegm/slime/mucilage/goo/guck/glutinous viscid mass", persian-speakers in afghanistan use the word "xelm" for "snot/gob/loogie/expectoration/mucosity/gobbed stuff/mucopus/rheum/purulence/excreted pus/ulcerousness/mucopurulent discharge/sanies/pimple/hickey/bogey/slimy booger/nasal secretion/phlegm/mucus/snuffle/lump of sputum/lung-cookie/sticky mass", that is connected with the kurdish word "zäliq"="glueing/adhesion/glutinousness/tackiness/adherency/stickiness/splicing/pasting/adhesive bonding", one can mention that a snake moves forward in it's habitat like it's kinda glued on the surface and on the tree too without falling down somehow in the scence that 'it looks like if it's always adherenced or sticked to the surface', furthermore has a snake similarities in the appearance with a "belt/strap/razor-strop/boom-strop/tether/vang/shoelace/gun-sling/lifting-sling/mountaineering-cord/galoon/festoon/ribbon/ligation/lanyard/tie/tapeline/strip/cord/streamer/garland/tape/vinculum/ligature/bond/band/bandage/brace/warp/wristlet/circlet/chain"="qulanch/qol/jol" in kurdish or a "streak/hank/strand/skein/stripe/line/shank/leg/extremity/arm/limb/bough/tail/pigtail/hair-lock/tress/twirl/curl/plait/braid/coil"="guli" in kurdish, interessting here are 3 things that can be compared, that kurdish "qol" can be translated as "(paper)streamer" what in switzerish literally means "paper-snake"="papier-schlange" (or in german "decoration-streamer" literally means "air-snakes"="luftschlangen) & kurdish "qulanch" or "qol" can be translated as "sling" what in german is "schlinge" and etymologically the most close to "schlange" what is again a "snake" (etymologically related to it is also russian "shlanga"="hosepipe") & french/english "queue" has many meanings like "tail" or "stick" or "stalk" or "pigtail" or "waiting-queue/waiting-line" that shows the synonymousness also to the meaning snake because in german "schlangestehen/warteschlange/menschenschlange" means "waiting-queue" and is literally translated as "snake-standing/waiting-snake/human-snake" and also german "menschenkette"(literally "human-chain") is almost the same as "menschenschlange"(literally "human-snake"), so there are 8 options of which meaning is directly related to hutsulian "galica/galicya" and that is either "shell/casing/covering/etc."(the camouflage) or "hole/grave(could stand also for the unexpected deadliness of a poisonous strangling snake)/hiding/etc."(the hideout) or "pliable clay/sticky ooze/viscous gloppy substance/etc."(the attributed features) or "dug land/dirt or loam heap/pile/etc."(the habitat) or "slimy expectoration/sputum/mucousity/etc."(the snake-venom) or "ribbon/belt/line/etc."(the look-similarity) or "strand/sling/chain/etc."(the snake-strangulation) or "scab/furfur/bark/etc."(the skin-similarity), but there is also a word from the neshalji dialect in the raji language "qalbeja"="lizard" that could have something to do with hutsulian "galicya", snakes plus lizards added up are squamates (the animal-order). the second meaning of "galica/galicya" (another variation can be "galüga") in hutsulian language is "parasite" and "bad harmful worthless one" what has the same origin and meaning as kurdish "zilo"="parasite" and that really might be a close related word to kurdish "xiler"="dirt/filth/mess/smut/grunge/feculence/grime/pollutant/muckiness/smudginess/drek/ordure/smutch/sully/ash-dust/rubble/scuzz/squalor/foulness/trashiness". the third meaning of "galicya"(also known as "gaľman" or "glota" but in ukranian "yurba") in hutsulian and lemkian language is "crowd/multitude/throng" and is related to kurdish "gol"="accumulation/pile/stack/mass/overburden/bulk/load" or is even closer related to shahmirzadi "xale"="many" but has also a lot in common with balochi "xalgh"="people"....................
some have the factless/unlogical opinion about the hutsulian word (that already is integrated into the ukrainian language) "legin'"="youngling/teenager/subadult/adolescent/youth/younker/stripling/youngster/pubescent/springchicken/manboy/juvenile/fledgling/minor/teenybopper/teen-boy/bachelor/greenhorn/boy/youthful young male" that it comes from the word "legionnaire" but it comes without a doubt from a proto-zazaki or zazaki-alike ancient dialect from media and is identical with the zazaki word "layik/lajek"="young buck/young adolescent/young fella/knave/sonny/boyo/boy/whippersnapper/callow-youth/junior/youngster", i think the romanian word "flacau(sh)"="fellow/boy/young man/callant/youth/bachelor/youngster/gossoon/swain/teen/adolescent/young buck/sirrah/buster/sonny/schoolboy" is also of the same sigynnian origin or influence (if you take away the f at the word-beginning it would be obvious), also the hungarian equivalent "legeny"="young man/stripling" has a origin with sigynnian background (most likely from transcarpatia or far northwestern romania where hungarians lived too). "gun-barrel" is a new word/meaning but it's somehow surprising that in kurdish and hutsulian it doesn't sounds so different, in hutsulian "lüfa" and in kurdish "lüle", that point what is the gun's opening/exit (called gun-muzzle or gun-point) is in the second scence also understood as "lüfa" and in kurdish "point" means "lutke" (sometimes also translated as "end-point" or "ending part") so sounds halfway similar too, "lüfa" is also good compareable with zazaki "lytene"="to suck" as example like sucking a liquid through a drinking-tube or sucking for air under water through a snorkel-tube, "lüle" & "lüfa" had originally the meaning "tube/pipe" like in kurdish it's until today so, that's what's interessting for the next word, ukrainian and hutsulian "lüľka" or "lüla" what means "tobacco-pipe", "lüla/lülka" can be seen obviously as of the same origin as the kurdish "lüle", but it's possible that the word came to ukraine not through the sigynnian but through the turkish language that has that adopted word from the persian language but interessting is anyway that "lüfa" and "lüla" differ only in one letter and have both the main-meaning "pipe/tube", the armenian music instrument "blul" is the same as kurdish "bilul", both mean "flute", my opinion is that the word-stem of these words is westiranic "lul-" (like of the word "lüle"="pipe/tube/gun-barrel") and not "bil-", so another similar kurdish word "bilur"(there are also other variations like "blur" & "balur") a traditional pastoral-seminomadic kurdish "shepherd-flute/caval-flute/syrinx-flute" shows a kurdish or generally iranic l to r sound-shifting, then there is the romanian word "fluier/fluer/fluir/fluiera"="pipe/flute/whistle" what really have to be identical to kurdish "bilur/beluer/blur/balur" (the romanian sound f is here in kurdish the sound b), so it seems that the romanian word has also sigynnian influence or roots and accordingly the hutsul mountain pipe "floєra"(also "fluyara" and "floyara") too (most etymologists say that "floera" & "fluer" is of unknown origin). the hutsulian word for "lord/master/boss/landowner/householder" is "gazda" and has it's origin most likely in the elamitic word "kat"="throne" while the elamitic word for "lord/master"="katri" has a -ri suffix that has the meaning "someone who belongs to it". the hutsulian "zhebrak"="beggar" is of the same origin as the kurdish "devrash"="beggar". the last word is hutsulian "bardka" for "axe" while in the "modern-zoroastrian" behdinani/gabri language (spoken by the behdinan people in yazdi dialect) "barda" is translated as "spade"(including spade-chisel?), they are surely related words from media kingdom originally because of the similarities in the appearance of a spade with a hutsul-axe, a parallel example to it seems to exist and that is kurdish "ber"="spade/trowel" compared to kurdish "biwr"="axe" or kurdish "peraw"="pickaxe", the romanian (mainly in bukovina region used) word "baltag"="axe/hatchet" compared with kurdish "bel"="shovel/spade" is maybe another such parallel example (in the case when baltag is not a turkish borrowing but anyway it wouldn't be a word of real turkic/proto-altaic origin but a loanword that came into turkic from sakian or sogdian or wusunian but that -ag ending speaks for a typicalness of the balochi language that has often that dispensable additional word-ending).
I have a question about Lorestani culture, and specifically Lorestani women. My great grandmother was from Borujerd, Lorestan. She had tattoos on her face, specifically the mouth area, the tattoos were dot like and blue green colored. I haven't been able to find much about anyone knowing tattoos among the Lors. Does anyone have knowledge about this and why the women would get tattoos on their faces? من یک سوال در مورد فرهنگ لرستانی و به خصوص زنان لرستانی دارم. مادربزرگم از بروجرد لرستان بود. او روی صورتش خالکوبی کرده بود ، مخصوصاً در ناحیه دهان ، خال کوبی های لکه دار و سبز آبی بود. من در مورد کسی که در میان لرها خال کوبی می داند چیز زیادی پیدا نکردم. آیا کسی در این مورد می داند و چرا زنان روی صورت خود خال کوبی می کنند؟
I don't know how they call it in luri but we kurds have the same. We call that taq. But also the berbers in marocco have that. Even the scythians and the old germanic tribe had that. Again i don't know why lurs used that but we kurds use that to calm the ghosts😅 But since kurds and lurs live next to each other and had influenced each other it could be that the lurs used that for the same reason🤔
In fact, the Lors are the most authentic Persians from the people of Cyrus the Great, i.e. Pars And the Kurds are from the Medes These two Aryan peoples who are in the western half of the Iranian plateau along with the Parthian people who are in the eastern half are the three big peoples that make up the great Iran. The first strong government among these three peoples is related to the Medes, but the first government that was able to unite all three groups and expand it on the level of the ancient world was Persia, and this is how the first great world government was formed under the name of Achaemenids by Cyrus the Great, and for this reason, all Iranians are still generally called Persians.
@@amindaliran8897 Look at the traditional round hats the Lors are wearing man. They are clearly Medes by description. And these people in the video are not Lors but Lak Kurds.
@@serdar3578 Where are you from brother? Türkiye, Iraq or Syria? Because Iranian Kurds are exactly aware of their similarities and differences with Lors. As I explained in the previous comment, Persians and Medes are two groups of Aryans who settled in the western plateau of Iran. They have many similarities in terms of language, customs, etc. It would be much better if you, dear Kurds and brothers, study a little more in this regard instead of arguing. I am a lore myself and I am 34 years old and since I was 10 years old I have read all kinds of historical books about Iran and especially lores. Your insistence will not change the truth of the story bro
Your knowledge is low. And i cant tell you who you are cause iranian state made you separated ..its okay today you are lurs. But lurs are only mamasanis and they were brought from armenia so they were armenians from the state of armenia called Lori by the kingdom called Mamakoniyan which is still used as Mamasani in iran. The rest of lurs are Lak kurds and bakhtiaris were kurdd kurmanc from syria and turkey still by tribal names and clans and genetic. Iran made a good Coup with Mamakoniyan armenians to separate kurds and assimilte them to mamasani identity. @@amindaliran8897
خودتونو ناراحت نکنین . این حرفا از رسانه های ناسیونالیسم کردی نشات میگیره خودشونم میدونن برای داشتن یه کشور باید زمینه ی تاریخی و حکومتی داشته باشن چه جایی بهتر از لرستان و مردم لر؟
I am pretty sure that anywhere in the world the bride is supposed to look happy that she is getting married. This woman looks like she is being led off to prison.
اومدم ویدو از وطنم لرستان بببنم یک سری پانکورد سگ ول کن ما نیستن🥺😭😫 بابا برین بگین ترکیه کرد هست نه لرستان لر ها خودشون قومی هست کورد لر با هم بردار ولی دوتا جدا هستند بعد ما همه ایرانی هستیم🇮🇷
In fact, the Lors are the most authentic Persians from the people of Cyrus the Great, i.e. Pars And the Kurds are from the Medes These two Aryan peoples who are in the western half of the Iranian plateau along with the Parthian people who are in the eastern half are the three big peoples that make up the great Iran. The first strong government among these three peoples is related to the Medes, but the first government that was able to unite all three groups and expand it on the level of the ancient world was Persia, and this is how the first great world government was formed under the name of Achaemenids by Cyrus the Great, and for this reason, all Iranians are still generally called Persians.
حلا ملاھا ھر خری ھم باشند ۔ باید گفت کہ در این دنیا کشوری نیست کہ یا در دست آمریکا و انگلیس و یا در دست روس ھا و یا چین باشد اگر شما کشوری سراغ دارید کہ وابستہ نہ باشد خواھش مندم برای من ھم بہ نویسی
هم میهن گرامی من باید بهت بگم من هیچ کشور آزادی رو نمیشناسم من در آلمان زندگی میکنم و شاهد بردگی و سرسپرده گی رژیم آلمان در برابر اهریمن بزرگ آمریکا هستم متاسغانه!! ولی برای آزادی تمام دنیا ار دست ابرقدرت ها که البته کنسرن های بزرگ مافیای داروسازی نفت گاز انرژی صنعت جنگ افزار سازی بانک جهانی اتهادیه اروپا و و وهستن باید تلاش کرد!! تنها راه آزادی و آزاده گی شناخت حقیقت و أگاهی است
Hello brothers. We are not Kurds, but we are brothers with the Kurds. Because the Kurds are Medes and we are Kassites and Persians. But we are always brothers and two Aryan peoples.🇮🇷❤️🔥
KURDİSH= KURMANCİ, SORANİ, GORANİ, LORANİ, HEWRAMİ, LEKİ, KELHURİ, FEYLİ WE ARE KURDİSH FAMİLY LOR ARE ASİMİLATED BY SHİA PERSİAN, LOR ARE KURDİSH, WE ARE ONE CULTURE AND MOUNTAİN MEDİAN KURDS ❤️🌹
Lore is an south western Iranian language like Persian. Kurdi is northerwester iranian branch which is close to Laki/Pahlevani, and Zaza and Gilaki etc
Persians hate Lori People Because Lori people have a diffrent culture and a diffrent languages Than iranians. Nut KURDS are PROUD of LORI people culture and languages Because Its simmelar as KURDISH poeple.
This “wedding” is Kurdish. This is not LORI. Lor is a different culture and language from Kurdish. The Kurdish in this video is LAKI. Laks live in Lorestan, Ilam and Kermanshan. Also in Iraq/Turkey.
In fact, the Lors are the most authentic Persians from the people of Cyrus the Great, i.e. Pars And the Kurds are from the Medes These two Aryan peoples who are in the western half of the Iranian plateau along with the Parthian people who are in the eastern half are the three big peoples that make up the great Iran. The first strong government among these three peoples is related to the Medes, but the first government that was able to unite all three groups and expand it on the level of the ancient world was Persia, and this is how the first great world government was formed under the name of Achaemenids by Cyrus the Great, and for this reason, all Iranians are still generally called Persians.
In fact, the Lors are the most authentic Persians from the people of Cyrus the Great, i.e. Pars And the Kurds are from the Medes These two Aryan peoples who are in the western half of the Iranian plateau along with the Parthian people who are in the eastern half are the three big peoples that make up the great Iran. The first strong government among these three peoples is related to the Medes, but the first government that was able to unite all three groups and expand it on the level of the ancient world was Persia, and this is how the first great world government was formed under the name of Achaemenids by Cyrus the Great, and for this reason, all Iranians are still generally called Persians.
@@amindaliran8897 you are a joke...it is called iranian or arian tribes but not persian. Persian is only an iranian arian tribe like kurds ect. But lors talish are kurds
@@mehmetdereroberer5553You’re the best of jokes actually, the funniest thing being that you’re a Kurd from Turkey who seem to have unfortunately absolutely no clue about Iran, let alone claiming typical Iranian ethnicities
Lur from Iran. Love this music. 😍
Lur kurdistan
@@K.S_185 luristan❤
@@hallasabah8971 گوه نخور 🤫 لر و کرد اقوام اصیل ایرانی هستند و دست بکشید از ای کوونی بازی هاتون 🥱👎🤫🥴
@@hallasabah8971Nope
@@hallasabah8971Kurdistan is IRAN !
Herbijin Lorestan, em bira û xuskê hevin.
Ez bang li hemî kurdên cîhanê dikim ku bibin yek û hevgirtî .. vê yekê bizanin ku dê kes sûdê nede we .. Xwîna mezin a ku hûn hewce ne di xwîna weya hêja de ye.
We are NOT Kurds, but we love Kurds
@@Hermesborugerdian Kürtler de sizi çok seviyor. Kürt olmasanız dahi Kürtler gibisiniz biz sizi öyle görüyoruz ve seviyoruz
برو کردستان بحث پانکوردی کن نه اینجا ما لر ها لر هستم لرستان
@@fehatfermi422 چیزی زر میزنی گوزو
گوه نخور ب بته لر و بختیاری و کرد اقوام جدا و همه شون مثل همه اقوام اصیل دیگه ایرانی و ایرانی تبار هستند ، دست بکشید از ای کوووونی بازی هاتون و ملت سازی بیهوده
Slav Lorestan, ez Kurdın, em yekın bijî yekitiya Lur û Kurd
Kurds are lur😊
ZAZA, LORI ,EZEDI, HAWRAMI, KURMANJI, BADINI, FELI. HEME KURD HESTEN .
EM HEMI KURDEN U DE KURD BIN
NEELETA XODE LE SER NYARET PIS U XOIN XAR BIT.
MERIN BO NYARET KURD U KURDISTANE.
BIJIT KURD
BIJIT KURDISTAN
EM DE HER SER KEVEN
BIJIT AZADYA GEL❤❤❤
In fact, the Lors are the most authentic Persians from the people of Cyrus the Great, i.e. Pars
And the Kurds are from the Medes
These two Aryan peoples who are in the western half of the Iranian plateau along with the Parthian people who are in the eastern half are the three big peoples that make up the great Iran.
The first strong government among these three peoples is related to the Medes, but the first government that was able to unite all three groups and expand it on the level of the ancient world was Persia, and this is how the first great world government was formed under the name of Achaemenids by Cyrus the Great, and for this reason, all Iranians are still generally called Persians.
Lor is not Kurd stop claiming us donkey
@@amindaliran8897sorry but we are nothing now. Islamist destroyed us all. 😢
Thank you for posting the Lorastan tradition . I love it because my ancestors are from Lorastan . Amazing people of Lorastan and beautiful music love 💕 Lorastan.
Can you tell me a little history about the hat that this dancer wears? Or the origin of the hat, how it is made, etc.
Thank you for this video. It never ceases to amaze me how much I can learn from Utube of other people and their culture.
Love from Kurdish people. We love are Lori brothers sisters. We have same culture and same Language. Biji yekiti... Biji LORI KURDI yekiti
Same language? what? ya, Lurs aren't Kurds.
@matin lurkurd Persians have the same language as Lurs, not Kurds.
@@arman_1024 kurd n fars same 💐
During last few decades Iranian regimes tries to separate Lurs from Kurdistan but as a Kurmanj Kurd I believe we are same with Lurs and other groups/branches of Kurdish people.
@matin lurkurd we r no pers. But they are our cousins.
am SoranI Kurd respect and love for Lur Kurds we are one family forever .. The Lurs are the hearts of every Kurd✌we love you ..🌹
دوست عزیز لرها کهن ترین مردمان ساکن زاگرس میانی و فلات ایران هستن و قومی کاملا جدا از کردها هستن تشابهات فرهنگی دارن ولی در عین حال دو قوم کاملا جدا هستند ❤❤
الله الله. والله بكيت. عندما. سمعت كلمات الاغنيه. لانني من مدينه مندلي العراقيه،،،،،اتذكر جدا. عندما. كان. جدي وجدتي. لامي. يتكلمو. هذه اللهجه. لا اعرف بالظبط. ماخذي اللهجه. لكننا. والله. بكيت. لانني تذكرت اجدي ❤❤❤❤❤
تحية لك من أخيك في لورستان، أنت لور ومنا❤
لرسو هام د هولت 🌷❤️🍁
Lur kurmanc zaza soran yek qewmi kur diye. Biji yekîtiya kurd.semsur
Thank you for sharing I slowly learning more about a culture that I learned that my ancestry from. Thank you again for sharing!
درود بر شما عزیزان قربان آن مراسم زیبایتان
I love kurd end lor
بسیار زیبا و فوق‌العاده است
Her biji kurdistan ❤️⭐️❤️⭐️❤️⭐️❤️❤️⭐️❤️👍MUNZUR
This is not kurdistan👍
بهترین گروه موسیقی دنیا 😍😍😍😍😍😍
Her bji kurdi loro bextyari.
Kurdi lor degel kurdi bextyari deli Kurdistanen.
No lurs are iranian you can not find a single lur in Iran says he is kurd lol
dasem = wedding
بسيار زيبا 👏👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️
Do the people of Lorestan see yourself as related to the Kurds if we go far way back in time, and then devided to different ”history trees”? Or did the kurds and Lores never connect directly? Thank you and greetings from a curious Swede 🇸🇪
Beautiful video! 🎉
My husband is Lur. He always strongly points that they are not the same and never been the same. He actually knows Lurs nearer to Persians than Kurds and believes Kurds have started considering them as Kurds in recent years. So, in historic perspective they were always separated. I am from Iran and my major is related to these matters. As an Iranian we always consider Kurds and Lurs so seperated. Their language, clothes, lifestyle, religion, behaviors all are different clearly. 2 of my classmates were Kurd and Lur and they were not even friends! My Lur classmate was Bakhtiari and her best friend was Turk, while my Kurd friend was from Uraman and some of her relatives were in Iraq and she also doesn't know the other friend as Kurd. My other classmate was from Kermanshah where both Lurs and Kurds live together she also doesn't know the Bakhtiari friend Kurd! But the Ourami yes! In Iran it is so famous that Lur people have always strong role to defend Iran and love Iran. Bibi Maryam Bakhtiari, Shir Alimardoon Bakhtiari are two of our heroes and theirs names and memories have entered to the local songs of Lur people. On the other hand, Lur people in Iraq have assimilated in Kurdish society and because of Kurds advertisment you think Lurs might historically related to Kurds! During last year, two Lur children were killed by Islamic republic: Nika Shakarami, Kiyan Pirfalak. Those families showed their loyalty to Iran like their ancestors while Kurds didn't even say Lur people any thanks or feel sad of them!
We’re the same in the sense that all Iranian peoples have a shared ancient origin
turkey claim zazas and tons of kurmanci clans are not kurds, iraq claims yazidis, feylis and shabaks are not kurds, iran claims lurs and laks are not kurds. these claims' goals are same anyone who have enough iq can understand it. scholars in mediaval era like ibn al athir, yakut al hamawi said lurs are kurds. even eskandar beg monshi a chronicle of shah abbas of safavids wrote lurs and kurd together when introduce shah abbas great emir and begs in his book history of shah abbas.
"Kurds and Lors. Seventeen emirs with the rank of khan or sultan.
(37) yoseyn Khan AbbasI of Lor-e Feyll,* the beglerbeg of Lorestan and an emir especially favored by the Shah.
(38) Khan Abmad Khan Ardalan b. Holow Khan, the beglerbeg of SahrezQr and one of the great emirs.
(39) Kalll Khan b. Jahangir Khan, governor of Lor-e Baktiarl. ’Formerly Lor-e KOt’ek; see TM, p. 172.
...."
iran made success and tons of lurs don't feel themselves as kurd and claim they are not kurd but it is not about how they can feel themselves. historically they are kurds because chronicles and geographer of the past time considered them as kurds. they were kurds about maybe 2bin years everyone said they are kurds. you can't chanced it because new ones don't want it.
Did kurds say go and die for mahsa amini? For whaz thanks... you gypsies never had war ..you lurs were in history partly afghan and partly armenian dna proofs... laks feylis are not lur are kurd and bakhtiaris were from hasnawiyah and fadlawi kurmanj kurds of syria and turkey ... who are lurs?? Lur a gypsy tribe in afghanistan... officialy a gypsy tribe.. in history lurs had changed several times religion and language... like typically iranians wothout chatacter when they come to europe and tell them lyes like we converted to christianity please give us asylum.. so you talk after that bullsh.... strong ties?? Even a cameleon has not so much colours than lur changed... tfuuu bishakhsiyat bigheyrate lur iraniha @@aryana7253
Lûrî lekî kelhorî Feylî bextiyarî kurmancî û soranî Goranî Dimilî bijî Kurdistan
همه جای ایران زیباست
Kurmanji zazaki sorani gorani lori hemu Axa Kurdistane .
BİJİ KURDİSTAN
کصمادرت لر میشه لرستان نه کورد لر خودش لر هست
لرستان بزرگ کاملا مشخص و جداست
Dorood bar shoma azizan
Wonderful culture from indonesia,we love you we love kurdi dan kurdistan💖😍❤🇲🇨😍😍😍⭐💐
This is lorestan not Kurdistan
Me lor
@@maryam2417 Leave! Lorestan is a Kurdish province
@@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani Lurs are NOT kurdish. Stop this nonsense! I am LUR and we have NEVER associated ourselves as Kurd!
@@IranLur You are assimilated by Iran. You are Kurdish. Your ethnicity and root is Kurdish
Luristan Zagros Mountains Kurdish Mountains Luristan Kurdistan ❤❤❤❤❤
عزیزم اینجا لرستان هست مردم لر یک قوم جدا از کردها هستن تشابهات فرهنگی دارن ولی لرها و کرد ها دو قوم جدا هستن
عالیییی❤❤
Her bijît Kurd u Kurdistan, her bijît Lorestan❤❤❤❤
Can somone translate me the words that the Man is singing in the and ?
This poem is in Lori language, which is one of the oldest Aryan peoples: It is raining. It is raining. At this time, put your hand in mine so we can go home. You are like a flower in my garden. You are my eyes and my light. You are the light of my house. You are my companion and my love.
Long live The KING Pahlavi and his Family❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Bijî Kurdistan !
This is lorestan not Kurdistan you should try to read
@@maryam2417 Loresran is one of the provinces of eastern Kurdistan. You are the one who should read!
@@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani Nope
@@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani Kurdistan where?😂😂😂😂
@@ddddd7769_D Not between the legs of your mom
Certainly, a part of the Illyrians, warriors of Alexander the Great, remained during the conquest of Persia by Alexander, when he defeated Xerxes. They may have preserved the white hat that Albanians call "PLIS," as well as the drum and flute, and the lahuta, three instruments that are present here just as in Albania, Kosovo, and throughout the Balkans where Albanians live. The same can be observed among the inhabitants of the Pamir, Hunza, and Kalash people in the region of Afghanistan and China.
Kesini gara2 Alm Yai Sunyoto Suku islam pertama di Pulau Jawa 👍
Xuda mesud bike
Yemin olsun ki biz kardeşiz çünkü biz bize benziyoruz biz sizinle aynı kaynaktan akiyoruz biz sizinle aynı medendeyiz ben bir KÜRDÜM KÜRTÇEnin Kurmanci lehçesini konuşuyoruz sizleri aşk ile niyaz ediyorum 🙏🥲
WHERE IS LORESTAN..?
In Rojhelat. Check on google, shall see there
@@zazakurdish7472 ....THANKS FOR REPLYING
@Shirpialuresu you nazi pers, you know very well, there is kurdistan and live only kurds, no 1 persian. Occupater dictators will left labd of kurds. You will see in the next years
@@zazakurdish7472We aren't Kurd. I am from Lorestan and we are Lor. Our loyalty only belongs to Iran.
@@Kasra1881 what is your mother language? What kind a language have speak your parents, grand mother, grandfather..? Id lor language different from kurmanci, sorani kurdish...?
Lurs are not kurds, we're just sisters and brothers and long time neighbors💖
پدرم لوره مادرمیش عیلامیه یعنی کورد هستم زندباد لورستان بزرگ له دیزفول تااااا خانقین هر بچی کوردستان
@@rojyarjamal6851 Xaneqîn is not lurish...
Ezidi,Lür,zaza are Kurdish bro
@@maximilianlenus4240 no not lur. You see that all the lurs here say that they are not kurdish. Why do my people don't understand that.
@Magic 666 دوست عزیز با این تعاریف پیش پا افتاده قومیت تعریف نمیشه. اعراب هم رقص گروهی دارن اگر بنا به این باشه. ما یک فرهنگ مشترک ایرانی داریم و در وهله ی اول اون باید قرار بگیره و لرها و کردها همسایه های دیرین هستن و قطعا از هم تاثیر پذیرفتن و رسوم مشترک زیادی هم دارن ولی این تاثیر در بین همسایه ها عادی هست
it exists a forgotten ancient connection of iran (antique media kingdom) with the eastern-carpathian regions, mainly with the hutsul people who are living there (in romanian suceava, maramures & ukrainian ivano-frankivsk, chirnivci, zakarpatia), they were called in 1100 AD huci tribe (later came an romanian -ul ending). hutsuls have earliest roots which goes way back to the median busi tribe who were listed by herodot (lived around 450 BC) as one of the ancient westiranic median tribes the busae. an oldiranic typicalness of some languages/dialects was that not rarely the bh sound shifted to h sound: busi>husi/huzi>huci & some variations of hutsul in romania are huzul or hutan. herodotus the historian wrote about colonists from media called sigunians (shuhani is the main luri dialect & the lurs counts as one of the descendants of the antique medes) who settled before herodot's time in transylvania. sigynians wore median clothing, had many median customs and they themselfes said (to herodot) they are descendants of the medes. i can bring some proofs/facts/wordsimilarities/explainings/theorizations to show the direct connection of proto-hutsuls with the medes, concretely median busae tribe & the sigynnian branch who settled in westromania. genetically hutsuls are in first case a mixture of dacians+vlahs+slavs but from their origin (the old substrat) an iranic sigynnian people. about when these median colonists sigynians came to transylvania exist 2 options, they left their homeland and moved via turkey to there around 630 BC (when kyaxares were made for 28 years to a vassal in his own kingdom) or 540 BC (when the median kingdom collapsed and persians took over). the historian strabo (63BC-23AD) wrote about siginians who lived in the southwestern caspia sea/western elborz-mountains region (by the way elborz and east-carparthian areas look in some places similar) like gilan, mazandaran, ardabil, zanjan, qazwin, these siginians were the ones who stayed in media and didn't leave like herodot's sigynnes. strabo said about these ones that in general they practise persians' customs and he mentioned like herodot their small horses race which were shaggy long haired flat-nosed/short-snooted ponies that pulled a chariot/cart in a four-horse-team, maybe that small horse race is related to the eastcarpathian hutul-horses/ponies (as a newer mixed breeding that originated from the sigynnian horses). i go back to the topic with proofs that the hutsuls were in fact of iranic median sigynian origin, the ethnicon itself (besides the most possible explaining that it comes from the median busi tribe name & a s to ts dialectical sound-shift existed sometimes in ukraine too) has also another 4 theories of it's meaning (until today nobody could proof what the ethnonym hucul really means), the 4 other theories what it means are all median cognates: 1. it comes from the gilaki word for "mountain"="quh", that could lead to guh+ul(noun ending) so the huculian ethnonym would mean "people from the mountains". 2. gilaki word "houz" for "lake" would mean hutsuls are "people who live by the lake" 3. northern garmsiri word "guch"="ram/ibex/capricorn/battering-ram/mountain-goat" would mean ghuculs are "people associated with rams/got something to do with rams" 4. gilaki word "ghut" for "immersion" would mean "(water)divers/aquanauts". herodot speculated what the name sigynni could mean from what he heared or knew, he used to associate the name with the meaning "spear" and on the other hand with "traders/hucksters". the proto-hutsul ethnos was surely formed in the maramures region and some bordering north-transilvania areas/northwest-romania where the sigynians sometime between 100-500 AD mixed with the surrounding dacian population & vlahian shepherds, a bit later came the slavic component(tiverians & whitecroats) into their ethnogenesis mainly in the ukraine-romanian bordering regions since 600 AD. sigunnians had 2000 years ago surely 2 median identities: the word siguni has to be the same as shuhani, what means one of the main dialects of lur people aka western-luri language, so it showed their median branch language-identity, but the other identity was the tribe-identity, the word that would later become the ethnicon hucul what means they had seen themselfes as belonging to the husi/huzi/huci tribe what is a dialectical changing of the word busi, their busae tribe identity. also i think that the meaning "sigynni" can all in all be understood as "people who are originally from a stony mountainous area or region" cuz if you take a talishi etymology for that then "sygh" is "stone" (or the dezfuli word for "stone"="seg") or if you take the kurdish etymology then "chiya/shah" is "mountain". talishi plural-suffix -un speaks also for a talishi alike dialect that formed the word "sigunni"(how appolonios wrote the ethnonym). in iran are mostly the galeshi people but also kurds or qashqais known for beeing pastoral-seminomadic like hutsuls are it often too. galeshi people could ethnically fit as descendants in first case of strabo's siginians if not the lurs (by the way the lurish traditional women's headscarf style is very similar to the hutsulian one) if sigynnian really stands for "mountain-man"(like galeshis who are an ethnicity whose homeland are the whole alborz mountains & they speak around 4 dialects who belong to both gilaki & mazandarani languages) and not for "person from the susanian region"(where in first case live the lurs that means the land shushan that was mentioned in the bible), but the name sigynni could speak rather for a proto-kurdish dialect origin if it comes from the word mountain=chiya/shah (in the case that sigynni is not the same as shuhani from the western luri territory or in other words if it doesn't mean proto-luri people or the western-part of them). herodot's sigynnians really could be people who mixed on the way with other different west-migrating iranians (rather from mountainous areas). the word for an "inhabitant of the mountains" in hutsulian itself is "sus", maybe the etymology of that word (in the case if it's not symbioticly identical with kurdish "shax"="mountain"/"qysh"="rock") and also of the name sigynn and even hutsul really goes back to the name of the ancient metropolis susa (today shush) from the copper-age and the region susiana where that city was included (through mixing the meaning? because susa's etymology is unknown but the region has actually enough mountainous areas too & it is strongly assumed that around 500 BC in susiana were spoken both languages median and elamitic/hatamitic because a textual sources study shows that in the neoassyrian period not only media but also further to the west like elamitic areas had a population with iranian-speakers often as majority and most sources say the whole susiana was 2600 years ago part of the median kingdom but some sources say only the northern/eastern susiana areas or that susiana was after the elamitic reign only part of assyrian and babylonian kingdoms idk wich ones are true) and used were also the names shushun, shushan & sugan, today susiana is the province xuzestan and was called already by persians from achaemenidic times hujiya & huziya, susi(ana)/xuze(stan) remind of the word sus(=mountain-inhabitant=hutsul?) and the ethnonym hutsul that is also often spelled husul(husanesc) & huzul(huzulei) is without the newer romanian ending huts/huz/hus but in that region itself is known a doubtable folk etymology for the word "xuzi" explained as "sugar manufacturer" or "sugar cane cultivator", so far one can just only speculate whether sigynnes & hutsuls have something to do with susiana or not because the shuhan district lies not in the historical susiana region but in ilam (xuzistan's northern neighbour province) and the luri shuhani dialect is also mainly spoken in ilam and not in xuzistan, it's more realistic that shuhan(i) is directly connected with sigynn(i) while susiana was surely lesser populated with medes...................
the following words are typical hutsulian & have ties to westiranic median modern descendants' languages: an interessting exclusive huculian word (that is not to be found in ukrainian language) with etymological ties to neo-median(=luri/gilaki/balochi/kurdi/behdinani/laki/garmsiri/sohi/zazaki/mazandarani/sivandi/semnani/talishi/tonekaboni/kiliti/tati/rudbari/kaviri/raji/dezfuli/shahmirzadi) cause it sounds related to these 2 gilaki words by meaning "hooz"(lake/pond) & "ghut"(immersion/diving) is the huculian word "ghuk" and means "waterfall", further it's also connected with the taleshi verb "hynj-/hänj-" what means "to drink", "ghuk" is also related to the verb of south-tati kiaraji dialect & soi/sohi language "hönj-" meaning "to water/to sprinkle". another huculian word is "kutüga"(also "kotüga") and means "dog" while in the luri language "katu" & in kurdish "kuti" and "kuchik" is "dog", these words are really close to each other. a huculian word (not in ukrainian language again) for "farm-animals/domestic-animals/livestock-animals" is "marga" what you can compare to the luri word "morg" for "chicken" and galeshi word "märg" for "hen" what surely is related together, "marga" might be also related to the sorani-kurdish "manga"="cow" because also in the tati language the word for "cow" is "marägou" (but that word could have in a symbiotic way the part -gou as the meaning cow), in mazandarani "magu" means "cow" and "marshan" means "young cow", hutsulian "marga"(sometimes is also used the variation "marzhina") belongs definitely to median dialects from origin because only indo-iranic languages have that word "morg" and in no other indoeuropean languages you can find it. then of course the romanian and hutsulian word "branza" & "bryndza" (in the 14th century also as a variation with a ch sound brancha) is translated as "cheese", also often as "cream-cheese", it's a word from the romanian and southwest-ukraine bordering carpathians & many romanians, hutsuls and ukrainians try to find the origins of that word, i searched for the translations of the word cheese in the most languages and no language has a similar word for cheese like branza, so it sure don't came from slavic or romance languages, the only language i found that has similarities with that word is the westiranic balochi word "ponch" for "curd/cream-cheese/cancoillotte/processed cheese/pot-cheese/junket-cheese/strained yogurt-cheese/quarg/cooking-cheese/farmer-cheese/runny cheese", so if you look that in the 14th century the word branza/brynza(commonly variation bronza) had also a ch sound variation, then broncha would be really close to the balochi ponch and has the same meaning, but also important is that it is connected to an other hutsulian word, to "banosh", a traditional dish of hutsul cuisine, a "porridge/gruel cooked in sour cream"(pork and cheese are mostly also added), both banosh/banush & branza/brynza/bryndzya are originally from the carpathian hutsul region and other neighbouring regions or countries adopted that food, but etymologically both words are westiranic median proto-balochi closest related in their origin, "banush" is a creamy porridge (mostly prepared from cornmeal) and etymologically identical to balochi "ponch"="cream curd cheese/processed cream-cheese/cooked cheese/soft processed cheese" cuz i principially see the etymology of ponch & branza & banosh as connected with the meaning cream,mash,curd,yoghurt,porridge,puree,creamcheese,pesto,paste,gruel,ect. as their roots and not with the meaning real cheese or directly corn groats, but the possibility that "banush" originated from another western-iranic word of mazandaranian kojuri dialect "bänj"="rice" can't be excluded too. the second hutsulian word for "cheese" is "budz", that word is also related to balochi "ponch"="processed curd cheese", budz & brynza are both of a cheesetype that is rather something between mozzarella and feta-cheese and cottage-cheese while the balochi ponch i think is more like the greek labneh creamcheese......................
when hutsuls are in the final phase of manufacturing cheese they put saltwater on it and that "saltwater" is called "sorovicya"(-ovicya is a slavic female noun-ending that means it is made of sor-), the luri word "sur" for "salty" and kurmanji-kurdish "shor" for "salty" are very close to that hutsulian word-root, these westiranic words "sur"/"shor" and hutsulian "sor-" are identical and of the same median origin (it's also often called in the ukrainian manner "syrovicya" then it's more compareable with the natanz region's dialectical word "shir"="salty"), sigynnians influenced also the romanian language because the romanian word for "salt" is "sare" (while in latin "salis" is "salt"). a typical ukrainian word what means untypical for the other slavic languages (really possibly borrowed by ukrainians from the carpathian regions where hutsuls live) is the word "gharniy"="great/super/terrific/prodigious/bodacious/grandiose" which can be compared to the garmsirian bashkardi word "gohrt"="big" or kurdish "gaura"="big" or zazaki "giran"="great", but better would be to see in first case the balochi word "shar"="good"(sometimes also "beautiful") as of the same origin/roots/meaning with the ukrainian "gharniy"="good/great/fine/nice/excellent/wonderful/brilliant/super/fantastic/marvelous/magnificent/awesome/swell/dandy/bodacious/terrific/prodigious/outstanding/grandiose/splendid/admireable/amazing/gorgeous/stunning/beautiful", most close related to the ukrainian "gharniy/gharno/gharna"(-niy/-no/-na is an adjective ending)="good" is mazandarani "xar"="good/fine", kurdish "haure" for "friend" is surely also connected with that word-root, in hutsulian you can say "gharen"="good (in the scence of helpful/worthful/useful/needable)" and it's origin goes back together with balochi "shar"="good" & kurdish "gaura"="big" to elamitic "rshara"="great". that bashkardi-garmsirian word "gohrt" fits really good to another typical ukrainian word "gurt"="group", a group is big so synonymous to the meaning big/large, in kashan county (part of isfahan province in central-iran) is used the local word "gurd" for "big", the zazaki equivalent is "gyrd" & the mazandarani one "gat" & the raji one "gord", the zazaki word for "group/drove" is "garan" and tajiki for "group/team" is "gurökh", by the way that word "gurt" i really think has etymological ties to the ethnonym "kurd" cuz there are 2 versions explaining the ethnonym of the kurds either with the meaning collected group/extensive group of related tribes/people-group or a more chauvinistic meaning like the big ones/huge and strong people=xurt (of course the most common theories about kurds' ethnonym is that it came from an adopted word from iraq "kard" meaning "nomad" used by arabs and persians for kurds or it came from the name of a mountain range in southeast-turkey "gudi/gurdi/giordi"), but there is also kurdish "gurz" & "xurdjik" for "bundle/sheaf/bunch/bale/batch/fardel/bavin/bing/wad/faggot/posy/bouquet/cluster/wisp/bindle/shiralee/sheave/fascicle/pack/stack/stock/tuft" what plays also a role in the etymology or meaning of ukrainian "gurt" & another kurdish word "girde"="collected/composite/compounded" or "giredai"="bound/tied/bonded/linked/ligated/trussed/attached/twined/annexed/hitched/corded/knotted/combined/enlaced/connected/fixed/enmeshed/clasped/catenated" too, probably together with two other kurdish words "gerdene"="collar" & "gerdani"="jewelry-chain/collier"(these 2 are rather not in the direct scence connected with the meaning of gurt). the hutsulian and ukrainian word/equivalent "gerdan" itself with nearly the same meaning "traditional decorative loombead-collar"(as part of the costume) sounds the same in persian "gerdan" but in persian the meaning is "neck" like in turkish and crimea-tataric (these laguages adopted that word from persian) who are assumed by many etymologists to have brought that word to west-ukraine (some also say it came from hungary to ukraine) but possible is that sigynnians already brought that word with the same meaning like in kurdish (gerdene & gerdani) to the carpathians long time before that. there's another word that is only typical for ukraine "khata"="house" what shares the same origin/meaning as the yazdi-behdinani word "khäda/khda"="house" and sorani-kurdish "ghat"="house".....................
the hutsulian word "daraba"="raft/float/catamaran/bobber" is generally of westiranic origin (maybe also with some influence or a bit fusion of slavic in that word), it seems that "daraba" is identical to oldpersian "daraya"="sea/river" and the second meaning of "daraya" in oldpersian was "holder", it's possible that from a mix of slavic "korab"(or romanian "corabie")="ship" + achaemenidic westiranic "daraya"="sea/river"(the second definition "holder" could really be also included as a factor in the scence "something that holds one on the water") resulted "daraba" (for example in german is the word for river nearly the same as for float/raft too), in balochi "daryab" means "sea", there is a similar word in kurdish "derav" for "water-channel/watercourse/water-ditch", furthermore could played a relevant role for daraba's etymological process kurdish "därabe"="podestal/podium/stairtop/landing/landing-platform/landing-place/dais/base/socle/platform/stage/stand/resting-place/stage-riser/plinth/enclosure/palisade/stockade/paling/railing/fence/louver/grating/grid/lattice/grille/trellis/graticule/espalier/fender/handrail/parapet/tafferel/banister/rail/breastwork/barrier/blockage/cove", on the other hand is in first case "daraba" most likely a combination of 2 westiranic words (like tajiki or persian) "daro"+"aba" and would be understood as the "enter/input/influx/addition/entrance/lead-in/ushering/insertion/interpolation/inlet/access/ingress/way-in/passage/pass/transition/transit/transference/committal/admission/admittance/accession/bringing-in/reaching/entry (for or to) the water", but more possible is the combination of kurdish "dar"="wood/timber/lumber" + "ab"="water"(also romanian "apa"="water" is here possible because it's surely an iranic sigynnian word that came into the proto-romanian language), that would be resulted in "water-wood/water-timber" (in the scence of a water-board), one last possibility is behdinani "dyr"+"aw", what you can understand as "something for being distant in the water" or "something that gets far via the water", i think the more plausible etymology of daraba is the kurdish combi variant. the ukrainian and hutsulian "kulish"="thick soup/pottage/millet porridge with meat,mushrooms,tomatoes"(in the carpathian version the porridge is done sometimes from maize) is said to be mostpossibly of hungarian "köles" origin but alternatively it can be of westiranic median origin when you compare it with northern kurdish "kelink"="cooking/boiling/simmering/seething"/"keli"="scalded/cooked/fumed/heated", that kulish/kulesha/kulisha/köles is of median proto-kurdish dialect origin can proof the word-meaning if you compare it with some other indoeuropean languages' meaning of the words millet & grits and related words to millet like germanic hirse(=millet), gries(=semolina) & grütze(=grits) or slavic grechka(=buckwheat), these words have originally the meaning "made warm/heated" so very close to kurdish "keli" by meaning, but etymologically are kulish and köles very close to "keli" or "kelink", that dish has to be originally from southwest-ukraine/northwest-romania (most likely transcarpatia) so many hungarians have lived in the western border-near zone there in some times, the balochi word for "wheat" is "galla" and seems to be related to hutsulian "kulesha/kulish" too, wheat are grains from which can be made wheat-grits/wheat-porridge/wheat-gruel so it's similar to kulish. an ukrainian verb that came at least 1000 years ago from southwest-ukraine/north-romania into the language is "shanuvati"(-vati=verb-ending)="to be a fan/admirer/liker/follower/honourer/lover/appreciator of someone" and has roots in iran, it's identical to persian "jan"="dear/liked/adored/favoured one" & "soul" but in older persian 2000 years ago it sounded like "hyan", the kurdish equivalent is "chan" and "chänik", in ukrainian dictionary "shana" is translated as "the feeling of being esteemed", also the romanian word "chinsti"="to honour/esteem/appreciate/adore/value/respect" proofs that the original word (of shanuvati/shana & chinsti) was from east-carpathians/north-romania because you can see that -sti is a word-ending and that word is surely not of a romance language origin and also fit well together chinsti with kurdish chänik, oldpersian hyan & ukrainian shana, the germany/poland-theory about that word is not right, on the other hand has the balochi word "shan"="glory" an obvious relation with "shana" & "chinsti" too (beeing glorified & beeing esteemed is nearly synonymous) and that word has a possible relation to balochi "jwan"="good". in western-ukraine is sometimes used the dialectical word "chugha"="ungrown mountain", it's related either to gilaki "quh"="mountain" or talishi "sygh"="stone" (taleshi and gilaki are neighbour-languages from northwestern iran) or kudish "chiya/shah"="mountain" or kurdish "qyj/qysh"="rock", to notice is that the bashkardi word for "stone"="sah" sounds similar to the kurdish word for "mountain"="shah", but that talishi word "sygh" is of the same origin and close in meaning related to another word, to hutsulian "chughilo"(-ilo is an noun-ending with adjective character)="notch or indentation in a stone" and "flowstone", both ("sygh" & "chugh-") have actually the meaning "stone", they are similar so hutsulian "chughilo" is of median talishi-alike (atropatena-media) dialect origin, but also of proto-kurdish origin because there's a kurdish word "qax"="indentation in a stone or rock", it is even much closer in the meaning to "chughilo" than the talishi word. another hutsulian word is "dyadühna"(-na is an adjective ending but it's an noun)="fever", there's a good possibility that it's of westiranic median origin because it could be identical to balochi "thäf"="fever" or kurdish "tehn"="temperature/warmness" or on the other side it could be related to kurdish "derd"="illness/disease/affliction/dejection/agony/suffering" (if you see -ühna as a word-ending), kurdish "derd" is maybe also related to hutsulian "didko"="devil/satan", -ko is in ukraine an adjective ending in the scence of -alike and a male-name ending so it could fit to a personification..................
the ukrainian and hutsulian word "gudzik"="button" came really sure from median leki and zazaki alike dialects, you can compare "gudzik" with zazaki "gozage"="button" & leki "gijik"="button". the second meaning of "gudzik" or "gudz" in hutsulian and ukrainian is "knot", it's close connected with kurdish "gurz/xurjik"="sheaf/bundle" & "giredai"="bound/tied" (and they have likely the elamitic verb "harak-"="to press" as their origin and they could also be related to elamitic "sarra-"="to assemble") that means with the meaning "something that is tied up tightly" but the r disapeared in hutsulian "gudz(ik)" (probably like for example the r from kurdish "derd" disapeared in the hutsulian "dãdühna"). the hutsulian word "galica" or "galicya" for "snake/serpent" and "gala" when it's a "viper/asp/adder" could be identical with the persian meaning and etymology "lair/den/animal's construction or burrow/fox's earth/hidey-hole/bolthole/safehaven/cocooning/loophole/shelter/covering/layer/coating/sediment/seepage/ooze/silt/alluvial sand/quicksand/driftsand/fluidized sand/flowing ground/mud/squidge/brickearth/clay/sludge/slurry/slop/pulpy mass/barbotine/engobe/muck/loam/gunk/pise/quarry/argil/mushy dirt/soggy soil/alluvium/suspension-load/grime/slush/slime/pug/gunge/gloop/sloshy mess/silting/casting-slip/slipperiness/messy semifluid matter" and is called "gel" in persian, that word has a characteristical connection to hutsulian "galica" because a snake has a behaviour/comportment/nature/character/attributes/properties/features/peculiarities/appearence/look that fits to persian "gel" like for example in the scence of behavior 'sliding/gliding/burrowing/crawling/wriggling/slipping/seeping into or under something like sand or soft earth (like dug soil) or a hole or a pile (of leaves)', also are many snake-kinds (like pythons,gaboon-vipers,copperheads,green-anacondas,some boas,some cobras,etc.) known for 'having a coloured camouflage' (some are even known for changing their colour between day and night), a snake is 'often in a hideout or camouflaged'(delitescence) so another word the kurdish "hilan"="hidden/preserved" have to be also related to it, or in the scence of appearence/look & palpation/tactuality but also style of the motion/agility/movement 'slick/slippery/smooth/glibbery/squidgy/supple/sleek/sludgy/squishy/slippy/slithery/pliant/pliable/malleable/gungy/smeary', a snake is (or moves) as 'flexible as one can knead muddy clay', so -ica in "galica" is a later slavic female noun-ending that was combined with "gal-" what is related (via sigynnian language intermixing in the east-carpathians) to persian "gel" and kurdish "hilan" (verb "hilanin"="to hide oneself from someone") and also to zazaki "chale"="pit/burrowed or digged hole/groundhole/hollow/cavern/cavity/fosse/rift/trench/shaft/duct/slot/underground mineshaft/burrow/gully/excavation space/dig/recess/foxhole/sewer/ditch/dugout-shelter/funk-hole/pothole/delve/lacuna/grave/graben/sump/tailrace", i see here similarities with the kurdish verb for "to burrow/dig/grub/excavate/trench/mine/carve out/delve/sink/scoop/gouge/rift"="kolin" & kurdish "qälish"="cleavage/splitting" & kurdish "xali"="hollow/cupped/vacant/concave" & kurdish "kulek"="grave", further relevant could be here for seeing better the whole spectrum the kurdish "qul"="hole" and kurdish "gol"="heap/pile/stack/accumulation/deck/spoil/overburden/load/mass/mound/soil-embankment/deposit/detritus/rubble/landfill/tip/midden/termitarium/molehill/dumped material/scrapheap/manure-hill/compost-mound/discharged bulk material/bulk commodity/bulk-items/staple-goods", also important to mention is kurdish "qalik" for "shuck/husk/pod/case/legume/capsule/sleeve/peel/shell/rind/carapace/cortex/peeling/periderm/furfur/scab/crust/bark" and that seems to share a close related meaning and etymology with the persian word "gheld"="shell/case/cover/husk/peel/dust-jacket/wrapping/pod/casing/packaging/cocoon/outerlayer/cover-sleeve/sheet/shielding/envelope/protective film/peelable coating/sheath/key-pouch/encasement/jacket-flap/mailer/courier mailing bag/shipping cover/file/document-protector/binder/sachet/gusset-bag/wrapper/giftpaper/insulation-membrane/tarpaulin/shrinkwrap/poly-liner/pack-pod/clamshell/fomentation-pack/wrap-compress/turn up cuff/insulating protecting material" or persian "gelaf"="etui/carry-case/glasses-case/passport-wallet/purse/travel-pouch/jewelry-casket/dopp-kit/pencil-box/tabatiere/needle-tin/cycling-softcase/sheath/clutch/organizer-bag/coffret", appropriate to it is also "veil"="xäli" in kurdish, noteworthy could be persian "galiz"="viscid/viscous/sizy/ropy/syrupy/molassesy/tight/dense/hampered/bulky/rubbery/gooey/poor-flowing/slow-flowing/sticky/tenacious/stodgy/pappy/chunky" what is probably close related to persian "helt"="mucus/sputum/phlegm/slime/mucilage/goo/guck/glutinous viscid mass", persian-speakers in afghanistan use the word "xelm" for "snot/gob/loogie/expectoration/mucosity/gobbed stuff/mucopus/rheum/purulence/excreted pus/ulcerousness/mucopurulent discharge/sanies/pimple/hickey/bogey/slimy booger/nasal secretion/phlegm/mucus/snuffle/lump of sputum/lung-cookie/sticky mass", that is connected with the kurdish word "zäliq"="glueing/adhesion/glutinousness/tackiness/adherency/stickiness/splicing/pasting/adhesive bonding", one can mention that a snake moves forward in it's habitat like it's kinda glued on the surface and on the tree too without falling down somehow in the scence that 'it looks like if it's always adherenced or sticked to the surface', furthermore has a snake similarities in the appearance with a "belt/strap/razor-strop/boom-strop/tether/vang/shoelace/gun-sling/lifting-sling/mountaineering-cord/galoon/festoon/ribbon/ligation/lanyard/tie/tapeline/strip/cord/streamer/garland/tape/vinculum/ligature/bond/band/bandage/brace/warp/wristlet/circlet/chain"="qulanch/qol/jol" in kurdish or a "streak/hank/strand/skein/stripe/line/shank/leg/extremity/arm/limb/bough/tail/pigtail/hair-lock/tress/twirl/curl/plait/braid/coil"="guli" in kurdish, interessting here are 3 things that can be compared, that kurdish "qol" can be translated as "(paper)streamer" what in switzerish literally means "paper-snake"="papier-schlange" (or in german "decoration-streamer" literally means "air-snakes"="luftschlangen) & kurdish "qulanch" or "qol" can be translated as "sling" what in german is "schlinge" and etymologically the most close to "schlange" what is again a "snake" (etymologically related to it is also russian "shlanga"="hosepipe") & french/english "queue" has many meanings like "tail" or "stick" or "stalk" or "pigtail" or "waiting-queue/waiting-line" that shows the synonymousness also to the meaning snake because in german "schlangestehen/warteschlange/menschenschlange" means "waiting-queue" and is literally translated as "snake-standing/waiting-snake/human-snake" and also german "menschenkette"(literally "human-chain") is almost the same as "menschenschlange"(literally "human-snake"), so there are 8 options of which meaning is directly related to hutsulian "galica/galicya" and that is either "shell/casing/covering/etc."(the camouflage) or "hole/grave(could stand also for the unexpected deadliness of a poisonous strangling snake)/hiding/etc."(the hideout) or "pliable clay/sticky ooze/viscous gloppy substance/etc."(the attributed features) or "dug land/dirt or loam heap/pile/etc."(the habitat) or "slimy expectoration/sputum/mucousity/etc."(the snake-venom) or "ribbon/belt/line/etc."(the look-similarity) or "strand/sling/chain/etc."(the snake-strangulation) or "scab/furfur/bark/etc."(the skin-similarity), but there is also a word from the neshalji dialect in the raji language "qalbeja"="lizard" that could have something to do with hutsulian "galicya", snakes plus lizards added up are squamates (the animal-order). the second meaning of "galica/galicya" (another variation can be "galüga") in hutsulian language is "parasite" and "bad harmful worthless one" what has the same origin and meaning as kurdish "zilo"="parasite" and that really might be a close related word to kurdish "xiler"="dirt/filth/mess/smut/grunge/feculence/grime/pollutant/muckiness/smudginess/drek/ordure/smutch/sully/ash-dust/rubble/scuzz/squalor/foulness/trashiness". the third meaning of "galicya"(also known as "gaľman" or "glota" but in ukranian "yurba") in hutsulian and lemkian language is "crowd/multitude/throng" and is related to kurdish "gol"="accumulation/pile/stack/mass/overburden/bulk/load" or is even closer related to shahmirzadi "xale"="many" but has also a lot in common with balochi "xalgh"="people"....................
some have the factless/unlogical opinion about the hutsulian word (that already is integrated into the ukrainian language) "legin'"="youngling/teenager/subadult/adolescent/youth/younker/stripling/youngster/pubescent/springchicken/manboy/juvenile/fledgling/minor/teenybopper/teen-boy/bachelor/greenhorn/boy/youthful young male" that it comes from the word "legionnaire" but it comes without a doubt from a proto-zazaki or zazaki-alike ancient dialect from media and is identical with the zazaki word "layik/lajek"="young buck/young adolescent/young fella/knave/sonny/boyo/boy/whippersnapper/callow-youth/junior/youngster", i think the romanian word "flacau(sh)"="fellow/boy/young man/callant/youth/bachelor/youngster/gossoon/swain/teen/adolescent/young buck/sirrah/buster/sonny/schoolboy" is also of the same sigynnian origin or influence (if you take away the f at the word-beginning it would be obvious), also the hungarian equivalent "legeny"="young man/stripling" has a origin with sigynnian background (most likely from transcarpatia or far northwestern romania where hungarians lived too). "gun-barrel" is a new word/meaning but it's somehow surprising that in kurdish and hutsulian it doesn't sounds so different, in hutsulian "lüfa" and in kurdish "lüle", that point what is the gun's opening/exit (called gun-muzzle or gun-point) is in the second scence also understood as "lüfa" and in kurdish "point" means "lutke" (sometimes also translated as "end-point" or "ending part") so sounds halfway similar too, "lüfa" is also good compareable with zazaki "lytene"="to suck" as example like sucking a liquid through a drinking-tube or sucking for air under water through a snorkel-tube, "lüle" & "lüfa" had originally the meaning "tube/pipe" like in kurdish it's until today so, that's what's interessting for the next word, ukrainian and hutsulian "lüľka" or "lüla" what means "tobacco-pipe", "lüla/lülka" can be seen obviously as of the same origin as the kurdish "lüle", but it's possible that the word came to ukraine not through the sigynnian but through the turkish language that has that adopted word from the persian language but interessting is anyway that "lüfa" and "lüla" differ only in one letter and have both the main-meaning "pipe/tube", the armenian music instrument "blul" is the same as kurdish "bilul", both mean "flute", my opinion is that the word-stem of these words is westiranic "lul-" (like of the word "lüle"="pipe/tube/gun-barrel") and not "bil-", so another similar kurdish word "bilur"(there are also other variations like "blur" & "balur") a traditional pastoral-seminomadic kurdish "shepherd-flute/caval-flute/syrinx-flute" shows a kurdish or generally iranic l to r sound-shifting, then there is the romanian word "fluier/fluer/fluir/fluiera"="pipe/flute/whistle" what really have to be identical to kurdish "bilur/beluer/blur/balur" (the romanian sound f is here in kurdish the sound b), so it seems that the romanian word has also sigynnian influence or roots and accordingly the hutsul mountain pipe "floєra"(also "fluyara" and "floyara") too (most etymologists say that "floera" & "fluer" is of unknown origin). the hutsulian word for "lord/master/boss/landowner/householder" is "gazda" and has it's origin most likely in the elamitic word "kat"="throne" while the elamitic word for "lord/master"="katri" has a -ri suffix that has the meaning "someone who belongs to it". the hutsulian "zhebrak"="beggar" is of the same origin as the kurdish "devrash"="beggar". the last word is hutsulian "bardka" for "axe" while in the "modern-zoroastrian" behdinani/gabri language (spoken by the behdinan people in yazdi dialect) "barda" is translated as "spade"(including spade-chisel?), they are surely related words from media kingdom originally because of the similarities in the appearance of a spade with a hutsul-axe, a parallel example to it seems to exist and that is kurdish "ber"="spade/trowel" compared to kurdish "biwr"="axe" or kurdish "peraw"="pickaxe", the romanian (mainly in bukovina region used) word "baltag"="axe/hatchet" compared with kurdish "bel"="shovel/spade" is maybe another such parallel example (in the case when baltag is not a turkish borrowing but anyway it wouldn't be a word of real turkic/proto-altaic origin but a loanword that came into turkic from sakian or sogdian or wusunian but that -ag ending speaks for a typicalness of the balochi language that has often that dispensable additional word-ending).
I have a question about Lorestani culture, and specifically Lorestani women.
My great grandmother was from Borujerd, Lorestan. She had tattoos on her face, specifically the mouth area, the tattoos were dot like and blue green colored. I haven't been able to find much about anyone knowing tattoos among the Lors. Does anyone have knowledge about this and why the women would get tattoos on their faces?
من یک سوال در مورد فرهنگ لرستانی و به خصوص زنان لرستانی دارم.
مادربزرگم از بروجرد لرستان بود. او روی صورتش خالکوبی کرده بود ، مخصوصاً در ناحیه دهان ، خال کوبی های لکه دار و سبز آبی بود. من در مورد کسی که در میان لرها خال کوبی می داند چیز زیادی پیدا نکردم. آیا کسی در این مورد می داند و چرا زنان روی صورت خود خال کوبی می کنند؟
I don't know how they call it in luri but we kurds have the same. We call that taq.
But also the berbers in marocco have that. Even the scythians and the old germanic tribe had that.
Again i don't know why lurs used that but we kurds use that to calm the ghosts😅
But since kurds and lurs live next to each other and had influenced each other it could be that the lurs used that for the same reason🤔
@@Sanmadaya Oh that's cool, what do your guys' look like?
@@ladyterrapin1421 ua-cam.com/video/0YsCCFr2E2I/v-deo.html
They looked like that.
I am sure that your grandma had the same kind of tatoos
براي زيبايي . من كردم و مادرم و خاله هام و مادر بزرگم و ... عين همين خال رو روي صورتشان داشتند
@@foadz3021 آیا خوب است اگر می توانید تصویری از ظاهر خالکوبی ها ارائه دهید؟
Lorstan Kurdistanê
This is so clearly Kurdish culture Herr Biji Lak Kurds.
This is Lori not Kurdish, stop going around claiming culture
In fact, the Lors are the most authentic Persians from the people of Cyrus the Great, i.e. Pars
And the Kurds are from the Medes
These two Aryan peoples who are in the western half of the Iranian plateau along with the Parthian people who are in the eastern half are the three big peoples that make up the great Iran.
The first strong government among these three peoples is related to the Medes, but the first government that was able to unite all three groups and expand it on the level of the ancient world was Persia, and this is how the first great world government was formed under the name of Achaemenids by Cyrus the Great, and for this reason, all Iranians are still generally called Persians.
@@amindaliran8897 Look at the traditional round hats the Lors are wearing man. They are clearly Medes by description. And these people in the video are not Lors but Lak Kurds.
@@serdar3578 Where are you from brother? Türkiye, Iraq or Syria?
Because Iranian Kurds are exactly aware of their similarities and differences with Lors.
As I explained in the previous comment, Persians and Medes are two groups of Aryans who settled in the western plateau of Iran.
They have many similarities in terms of language, customs, etc.
It would be much better if you, dear Kurds and brothers, study a little more in this regard instead of arguing.
I am a lore myself and I am 34 years old and since I was 10 years old I have read all kinds of historical books about Iran and especially lores.
Your insistence will not change the truth of the story bro
Your knowledge is low. And i cant tell you who you are cause iranian state made you separated ..its okay today you are lurs. But lurs are only mamasanis and they were brought from armenia so they were armenians from the state of armenia called Lori by the kingdom called Mamakoniyan which is still used as Mamasani in iran. The rest of lurs are Lak kurds and bakhtiaris were kurdd kurmanc from syria and turkey still by tribal names and clans and genetic. Iran made a good Coup with Mamakoniyan armenians to separate kurds and assimilte them to mamasani identity. @@amindaliran8897
People in the comments are you blind this is luri not Kurdish
Lurs are Kurds
@@mehmetdereroberer5553we bot
@@mehmetdereroberer5553 ما مانند شما کردا مهاجر و کوچ نشین نبودیم
خودتونو ناراحت نکنین .
این حرفا از رسانه های ناسیونالیسم کردی نشات میگیره خودشونم میدونن برای داشتن یه کشور باید زمینه ی تاریخی و حکومتی داشته باشن چه جایی بهتر از لرستان و مردم لر؟
ILLRY Albanien 🇦🇱
هل ممكن ان اتزوج فتاة من لورستان؟
La
I am pretty sure that anywhere in the world the bride is supposed to look happy that she is getting married. This woman looks like she is being led off to prison.
Bijî kurdên lûr
Lur are lur
اومدم ویدو از وطنم لرستان بببنم یک سری پانکورد سگ ول کن ما نیستن🥺😭😫 بابا برین بگین ترکیه کرد هست نه لرستان لر ها خودشون قومی هست کورد لر با هم بردار ولی دوتا جدا هستند بعد ما همه ایرانی هستیم🇮🇷
In fact, the Lors are the most authentic Persians from the people of Cyrus the Great, i.e. Pars
And the Kurds are from the Medes
These two Aryan peoples who are in the western half of the Iranian plateau along with the Parthian people who are in the eastern half are the three big peoples that make up the great Iran.
The first strong government among these three peoples is related to the Medes, but the first government that was able to unite all three groups and expand it on the level of the ancient world was Persia, and this is how the first great world government was formed under the name of Achaemenids by Cyrus the Great, and for this reason, all Iranians are still generally called Persians.
سرزمین مادری زیبامون رو از فروختن به چین کمونیستی در پناه بگیریم ❤️❤️
حلا ملاھا ھر خری ھم باشند ۔ باید گفت کہ در این دنیا کشوری نیست کہ یا در دست آمریکا و انگلیس و یا در دست روس ھا و یا چین باشد اگر شما کشوری سراغ دارید کہ وابستہ نہ باشد خواھش مندم برای من ھم بہ نویسی
هم میهن گرامی من باید بهت بگم من هیچ کشور آزادی رو نمیشناسم من در آلمان زندگی میکنم و شاهد بردگی و سرسپرده گی رژیم آلمان در برابر اهریمن بزرگ آمریکا هستم متاسغانه!! ولی برای آزادی تمام دنیا ار دست ابرقدرت ها که البته کنسرن های بزرگ مافیای داروسازی نفت گاز انرژی صنعت جنگ افزار سازی بانک جهانی اتهادیه اروپا و و وهستن باید تلاش کرد!! تنها راه آزادی و آزاده گی شناخت حقیقت و أگاهی است
@@mohammadazardi9116
اگر اینجوری هست چرا با امریکا نلاشیم که دست کم یه سود میرسوونه و مانند روس و چین دزد نیز
Her biji Kurde Laki
❤❤❤
Lorestan is a town east Kurdistan
It’s not
Idiots claim the Lurs are Kurd bit can't place Lurestan on the map.
Me lor
Lori Kord 💪🇹🇯🇹🇯
@@dovutpolat7028 no
Hello brothers.
We are not Kurds, but we are brothers with the Kurds.
Because the Kurds are Medes and we are Kassites and Persians.
But we are always brothers and two Aryan peoples.🇮🇷❤️🔥
Lorestan, Kurdistan, Zagros Mountains, Kurdish Mountains.
Aryan Pride no matter if Ur Pars kurd, lor tajik south osset ..! One Family ..!
KURDİSH= KURMANCİ, SORANİ, GORANİ, LORANİ, HEWRAMİ, LEKİ, KELHURİ, FEYLİ WE ARE KURDİSH FAMİLY
LOR ARE ASİMİLATED BY SHİA PERSİAN, LOR ARE KURDİSH, WE ARE ONE CULTURE AND MOUNTAİN MEDİAN KURDS ❤️🌹
کصمادرت خارجندا ما لر ها لر هستیم کورد نیستم هیچ شباهتی جز فرهنگ با کورد نداریم لک بختیاری لر هست
Go touch some grass we’re lur and more closely related to fars than kurd, lur is lur not kurd
Lors are not Kurds although similarity exist as both are Arianic. Both are Indo-Europeans but not same.
We are all Iranians, descendants from arya. The theory that kurd are medians is not correct.
Lore is an south western Iranian language like Persian. Kurdi is northerwester iranian branch which is close to Laki/Pahlevani, and Zaza and Gilaki etc
I as a persian speaking almost understand lurish language
Because it isn't a language it is an acssent of persian
Persians hate Lori People
Because Lori people have a diffrent culture and a diffrent languages Than iranians. Nut KURDS are PROUD of LORI people culture and languages
Because Its simmelar as KURDISH poeple.
@@User14949 that is such a lie haha, my best friends are lurs, lurs are among the most nationalist Iranians.
@@User14949 So much misinformations, you people are really so desperate or what ?
@@User14949 its lie ....l am Lor and not approve your words
This “wedding” is Kurdish. This is not LORI. Lor is a different culture and language from Kurdish. The Kurdish in this video is LAKI. Laks live in Lorestan, Ilam and Kermanshan. Also in Iraq/Turkey.
In fact, the Lors are the most authentic Persians from the people of Cyrus the Great, i.e. Pars
And the Kurds are from the Medes
These two Aryan peoples who are in the western half of the Iranian plateau along with the Parthian people who are in the eastern half are the three big peoples that make up the great Iran.
The first strong government among these three peoples is related to the Medes, but the first government that was able to unite all three groups and expand it on the level of the ancient world was Persia, and this is how the first great world government was formed under the name of Achaemenids by Cyrus the Great, and for this reason, all Iranians are still generally called Persians.
What 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kirdoostan
Kirdoostan 😂😂😂😂😂😂
ماوارثان سومری مادعیلامی وکــوردهستیم
WTF
راسته
آقا مگر کوردها آریایی نیستند؟
Bzhi kurd bzhi lur 🌹bzhi kurd✌
و همچنین بختیاری
لورستان كوردسسستان. لورستان كوردسسستان
لورستان كوردسسستان
ژن ژیان پهلوی❤❤❤
Theyre dance clothing faces music place culture evrithing 1000% Kurdish
So NOthing is related to persian the persin is 100% like indian
Lurs are kurdish tribe
In fact, the Lors are the most authentic Persians from the people of Cyrus the Great, i.e. Pars
And the Kurds are from the Medes
These two Aryan peoples who are in the western half of the Iranian plateau along with the Parthian people who are in the eastern half are the three big peoples that make up the great Iran.
The first strong government among these three peoples is related to the Medes, but the first government that was able to unite all three groups and expand it on the level of the ancient world was Persia, and this is how the first great world government was formed under the name of Achaemenids by Cyrus the Great, and for this reason, all Iranians are still generally called Persians.
@@amindaliran8897 you are a joke...it is called iranian or arian tribes but not persian. Persian is only an iranian arian tribe like kurds ect.
But lors talish are kurds
@@mehmetdereroberer5553You’re the best of jokes actually, the funniest thing being that you’re a Kurd from Turkey who seem to have unfortunately absolutely no clue about Iran, let alone claiming typical Iranian ethnicities
@mehmetdereroberer5553 as a talysh im dead💀💀💀💀💀
Wtf was that we are not kurt
Lor ,soran ,goran,zaza,kelhor,baxtîyarî,baluch ,brane yekin kurdin
لر ها خودش لر هستند گوه نخور
Luristan is different from kurds. Lurs are not kurd or persian.
How the lorestan say it? God Finger wedding water please