Consciousness is the Radio Signal body is the tv, when the tv breaks the signal still exists even though you cannot see the evidence through the tv anymore.
That's an interesting analogy! Yes, consciousness is like a radio signal. When the radio is turned off, the signal still exists - you can't see it, but you can still hear it. Similarly, when your consciousness is disrupted, you still experience the world around you - you just can't see or understand it.
I think a better analogy is that the soul is the radio signal, consciousness is the television program being displayed, and the body is the TV. In that dynamic signal exists regardless, the TV exists until it breaks down due to time, and the program gets through/recognized based on the condition of the TV. Though I prefer to think of it like a computer, the body is the hardware, the spirit is the electricity, and the soul is the software. In that consciousness would be something like software function that causes the screen to display what the software is doing.
Some of this might have gone over my head and that's ok; apologists have that talent to talk your head off sometimes. Anyway, Descartes certainly wasn't saying that "you see this table? this table doesn't think so it doesn't exist". He simply said, "because I think, I'm pretty sure I exist". No more, no less. Cheers! (more or less what the second speaker said)
He answered his question in his question. Consciousness is a proof of the soul. When you go into a coma or fall asleep, you could say you lose consciousness. That doesn’t mean you lose your soul. You just lose the proof for that period. But since it was already proven in yourself and others, it doesn’t need to be proven then too. You would need proof as to the contrary. Otherwise it’s reasonable to believe that you still have a soul when you are awake, asleep, in a coma, or while you were in the womb. Which I think makes sense.
@@incredulouspasta3304 I think you're making a valid point. It's not proof that some essential part of yourself can operate without a physical body, but it's still an indication of consciousness.
Scripture does not explicitly define what human consciousness is, though the Bible provides perspectives on it. A biblical view of human consciousness might be summarized as “the soul’s awareness of itself and its surroundings.” However, defining human consciousness is notoriously difficult. Exploring consciousness means probing the deepest questions about what it means to be human. Such discussion typically involves a long list of mysteries and dilemmas. Some concepts are unresolved; others present competing or apparently contradictory truths. The Bible gives us practical ways to understand some such issues. On other details Scripture is silent, and we’re left to untangle questions on our own. Biblical terms related to this subject should be carefully understood, especially according to their immediate context. Ancient terminology did not distinguish between the “mind” and the “heart” to the same extent seen in modern languages. That’s not to say emotions and intellect were never distinguished. Rather, it means words translated as “heart” in Scripture are not necessarily references to “pure feeling.” In some cases, what the Bible refers to as “the heart,” a modern writer might well label as “the mind.”
I think that I would have taken a more logic based approach: the questioner presented Descartes's statement and then asked if the statement "I think therefore I am" is true, would that lead to the inverse statement being true, logic doesn't guarantee that, only the contrapositive (I am not, therefore I do not think) can be logically concluded to be true
Even simpler put, he said "I think" not we think or you think. His requirements for an existence are exactly that, his own. It doesn't imply that no other objective standard exists.
To put it simply, the soul is the essence of who you are - your character, your emotions, your memories. Everything that makes you who you are is stored in your soul.
@@frankcardano4142 If you once thought abortion was ok but now you don't, then your views on abortion have changed and that would be considered a change in your soul.
Somewhat addressed at the end, but at the risk of revealing that I'm a nerd, the question as presented seems to make the logical error of assuming the converse. "I think, therefore I am" is not logically equivalent to "I don't think, therefore I am not." It is equivalent to its contrapositive: "I am not, therefore I do not think." It's not precisely useful in this philosophical discussion, but I think that's it's an evidently true statement. More carefully examining the question, I think it's important to note the difference between what Descartes was trying to argue and what the questioner is concerned about. Descartes was attempting to reason from as few assumptions as possible in order to determine what could be reasonably known about the universe. This initial conclusion establishes only his own existence, and doesn't even address the existence of other people at all. Attempts to reason about other people's existence would require much more information, and I think the panel explained some good arguments that can be used to consistently define those terms in the video.
Our existence is not completely whatever is there in bucket of "Our Self Awareness", it is beyond our thinking and awareness. Because Brain is the third organ to form in the womb but still even before My Thinking(Brain) could exist and while My Self Awareness is Nothing/Dead/Unformed, I still existed as Zygote, Developing Baby in My Mother's Womb. Which very clearly means "You already exist even before you could think and whatever I think is not completely me".
Your brain when born is the equivalent of scrambled eggs. There is no self awareness as it can't process self awareness, the wetware is unformed. It takes weeks of external stimuli before the brain begins to organize itself and self awareness develops.
If we're just the products of a cosmic accident and are destined for annihilation, thinking and learning beyond what's necessary to survive is pointless. Contemplating and philosophizing over deeper matters nets nothing when death and annihilation is waiting to destroy all that was gained. Deeper things of this nature that also include love, art, music and observation reflect a deeper being within us that surpasses some meat inside our skulls. We are eternal spiritual beings that will go on beyond this body of flesh. Jesus Christ bore our sins that we may be spared the condemnation of Hell. Repent and believe to be saved from the eternal punishment and inherit eternal life with Him.
Immediate strawman. To understand another’s viewpoint fully is to put your own viewpoint at risk of being overturned and that is frightening. Jordan Peterson. 👍
The mind is a brain state. The body is physical. I don't see any evidence to suggest that we have a spirit. And, how do you come to the conclusion that we were created in any image?
@@Generatorman59 There are two worlds after this one. Both are eternal. You can't verify them because your physical body must be dead for your REAL you to be able to enter only one of them. That is when knowing SOMEONE becomes very important.
@@mcmillanbmg There is no difference between something that is unverifiable and something that simply does not exist. So, what is the justification for belief?
@@Nathannnnnnnnnn Yer, the bible also says that donkeys can talk, so I'm not sure why you are quoting it like anyone should be taking it seriously......
@@somerandom3247 Actually, the Bible just says that one particular donkey talked, because God opened its mouth...though I suspect that won't be the clinching argument.
@@joshuakohlmann9731 Yer, that's still one more than reality allows. A donkey can open its mouth as wide as it likes, it still doesn't have the anatomy required to produce human speech. God would of had to completely rearrange it's brain, throat, and mouth at a minimum. And this story being made up is far more reasonable than believing all of that.
2:07 Vedanta argues that there is still consciousness in these states. There just isn’t an object to illuminate the subject. So he didn’t really answer the question
Your brain is an organ. A physical possession within your body. If we’re speaking spiritually here, it isn’t YOU. YOU are a soul who HAS a body. NOT a body who HAS a soul. So what’s the difference between mind and brain? Your brain, like your heart or liver or whatever else plays a role in the PHYSICAL function of this body you operate. But your MIND, those thoughts, that voice you hear in your head when you speak to yourself, that’s YOU. Your mind is YOU.
Hi, I keep raise this problem on this channel but the authors didn't gave me a complet answer. If a human didn't had conscience at all, he couldn't make any decisions, he didn't had free will. So he didn't had the chance to make the decision to trust God and what He did for us. That means that he didn't have the chance to be saved. But God is just, so every human have the chance to be saved, to take the decision to trust God. So all human should be conscience at one point, to be able to take that decision.
Is there any evidence that our consciousness is distinct from the brain? As far as I know there isn't. It's fun to speculate, of course, but any talk about "souls" without evidence will just remain that: speculation.
Notice how much detail he thinks he knows about souls. It's one thing to think magic exists. It's another to think casting fireball costs 5 mana points. I'm genuinely curious where he's getting his info from.
Better yet, if consciousness is a result of the brain and all we are are atoms and molecules. Elections firing off and bouncing off eachother randomly than how could you come to the conclusion that consciousness is the result of the brain with any certainty. How could you come to anything with any certainty? Everything is just a random cluster of electrons and atoms firing off randomly. That’s all we are. Cosmic star dust. Consciousness would be an illusion. And that would mean free will is an illusion, time is an illusion, morality and good and evil, math, science itself… love. Yup you guessed it.. all an illusion. So what do you consider evidence? Because there’s plenty of evidence for the existence of God. And if there’s a God than there is reasonable argument for the existence of the soul.
@@ImCeeJH I, personally, would say that they should be quiet. However, no one is saying that one should not care because they are just a "lump of cells" (which is an oversimplification of what organisms are, but whatever).
Your heavenly father mass murdered little children and betrayed his friendship with Adam and Eve. He knew He would do these things as part of His Divine Perfect Plan.
A physical thing, no. Subject to the scientific method, no. But not everything that's real *is* subject to the scientific method. Indeed, the scientific method presupposes the trustworthiness of the non-scientific philosophical disciplines of epistemology.
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 Do we treat fairies with the same scrutinies as we do with the soul? What reason do we have to assume that fairies are real? Btw, I am not in agreement with your last sentence.
@@Generatorman59, fairies are not thought of as the most intimate aspect of being human. Obviously we don't give them as much scrutiny. Duh! "I am not in agreement with your last sentence." More fool you, then.
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 But, fairies deliver oxygen molecules one at a time to your lungs. They died for you! How can you not give them the same scrutiny as a soul? You need to repent and start worshiping fairies. It's written in The Holy Book of Fairies, so it has to be true!
No, they likely still have a brain, just malformed. If they were without a whole brain, then they would not be able to breathe, pump their heart, vomit, swallow, etc. Consciousness would not even be there. You need a brain for that, even one that is missing parts or damaged. The condition I am referring to, by the way, is anencephaly.
@@rationeextrema3776 Some people may argue that a person who is born without a brain is still conscious because they can still exhibit some signs of intelligence.
@@mrshankj5101 I am not saying a person who has a malformed brain cannot exhibit signs of intelligence, I am just saying they have a brain. Albeit incomplete.
@@mrshankj5101 they are not exhibiting intelligence but automatic responses genetically endowed. Pain response, light in eye response many are automatic. Sheri s chia o had a brain rotted to the size of a walnut but would show reflexive acts. She was brain dead.
@@somerandom3247 : I suspect, from your comment, that you are not a believer. That's fine. But you do ask that we base our beliefs on reality. The reality is that most Christians don't have a clue about what the Bible teaches and believe in a God and form of Chhhristianity made up by later Church fathers based on Greek philosophy. Let me briefly give you some examples. : 1. Most Christians - and indeed many other religions - teach that man has an immortal soul that survives death. Yet, the Bible teaches the exact opposite. It teaches that man is a nephesh (soul) and so are all other living, breathing creatures. They are all souls. The Bible is clear: The soul is mortal. It dies.(Ezek 18:4) Thus, the fact that we, as living beings, creatures , souls die is in harmony with scientific fact and our reality. 2. Based on the false belief of a soul, most believe that the good go to heaven and the bad go to the fires of Hell. Again, the Bible actually teaches something very different. It does not say that all good people go to heaven. Indeed, such an idea was unknown to Moses and the prophets. Likewise, the Hebrew word for 'Hell' is sheol, which simply meant the grave. This is where all dead people end up. Good and bad alike. In sheol, there is no conscious existence (and no immortal soul to torment) . Ecc9; 5, 10. Most reference books should easily explain this. Indeed we find examples of people in the bible, like Job, wanting to go to the Bible 'Hell' to escape their suffering. They understood that death ends suffering. So, even if you don't believe the Bible, which you clearly don't, I have at least shown you that what it says about death is in complete harmony with what we perceive as reality.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 The reason we know atheists are arrogant is because they feel the need to spend their lives watching Christian videos and being rude to everyone. As if it debunks the existence of God.
_God exists, therefore I am,_ is a more pertinent statement, i believe. For to even exist, when you think about it, is a reality that one could meditate on indefinitely in regards to its implications. That means someONE, specifically the Creator of everything, made a *decision* that I would exist. That is the Crux of the legitimacy of all human life, for we are the only ones given the option to embrace or reject that reality.
@@therick363 This is not to convince non-believers to believe so, with all due respect, this statement is not to you but to those who believe in the living God. You are free to believe or not believe whatever you choose so, please don't be concerned that we would even _attempt_ to proselytize you.
@@JamesRichardWiley He succeeded in getting you to occupy yourself w/ thoughts of Him (to the tune of 1,000+ comments on a channel devoted to Him) so maybe you are the one to be answering your own question.
@@The-F.R.E.E.-J. Do you have evidence to prove a god was involved? James is perfectly capable of making comments without any need of a god. For once I'd like to see some actual evidence of this supposed god. Instead of the baseless claims theists keep presenting.
Of course, that which we call the "soul" is an emergent phenomenon at the top level of consciousness. The soul is entirely a by-product of the brain and its activity.
I can see that. What people call the soul is really just a title given to a group of brain functions. Nothing supernatural, not something that actually exists, just the title for a group of completely natural brain functions.
“If you declare with your mouth “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9). Now is the time to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior. Obey His commands and repent of your sins because Jesus is coming back soon. Tomorrow isn’t promised.
Jesus died for you was buried and rose again on the third day according to the scriptures. If you confess with your mouth Jesus is lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will be saved. please repent of your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior.
Do you have any evidence to show any of that actually happened? Or are we expected to blindly believe your book full of fictional stories and talking animals? Because I'm not gullible enough for the latter.
Genesis 2 v 7. GOD formed man out of the dust and breathed into his nostrils and man became a living soul, We do not have a soul "" we are a living soul "" And the breath of GOD gives us consciousness and when we die our breath goes back to GOD, Ecclesastic 12 v 7 , our spirit is our life our very thoughts which is from GOD ,
Cool. The bible also says that donkeys can talk, so I'm not sure why you are quoting it like anyone should take anything it says seriously. Do you have some actual evidence of a soul? Or even a good reason to believe that such a thing exists? Baseless claims from a book full of fictional stories doesn't cut it for the majority of humanity I'm sorry.
Genesis 2-5 show you what a soul is and what the state of the dead is. That concept of a human soul and an animal soul is Greek philosophy as well as most of this guy's answer. The Bible is clear dust + breath of life = a living soul. Dust - breath of life = dust.
Jesus is lord he offering you a free gift not of works we all have sinned in fallen short of God. God has offer you a free gift threw his son Jesus. you cant earn yourself to heaven by being a "good person" were all sinners the way to get to heaven is to believe that Jesus died for your sins in was buried in rose again on the third day that he shed his blood for you that is the gospel believe it in your save. Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: if you believe the gospel you are eternally secured (once saved always saved) sealed to the day of redemption. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. when you sin you grieve the holy spirit but you do not lose it you are sealed unto the day of redemption.
You can assert the existence of the soul all you want. That is a far cry (literally on the other end of speculative philosophy) from the rock bottom philosophy of "I think therefore I am." And going beyond that non-knowledge to entertain specifics on how soul stuff works is akin to speculating about whether Peter Pan can reattach his shadow with soap. You don't know anything even if you happen to be right that souls exist! The Bible on this topic doesn't even make stuff up for you to arbitrarily believe!
Frank, I've read enough of your comments by now to be able to chime in and say you're not nearly as smart as you think you are. Please at least consider the possibility for a moment before you continue to just like, say things.
@@frankcardano4142 Of what I just said; that you're not merely as smart as you think you are. A lot of Western young men of average or below IQ nowadays think they're qualified to speak on things because they've listened to Jordan Peterson clips on UA-cam. At least get past the first rudimentary rung of the ladder, which is not making strawman arguments. No one has claimed that telling the truth and telling what they think is true are one in the same. Not even close.
@@CJ-lr4uq Where did I quantify how smart I think I am? Try to remember your leaders deny evolution and even claim that it’s false or wrong even though none of them are evolutionary biologists and almost all of them are completely uneducated in any science whatsoever. Yet they think they’re smarter than the worlds scientists. There’s your “Not as smart as they think they are”.
@@CJ-lr4uq I was simply quoting Peterson from his chapter “Assume the person you’re listening to might know something you don’t”. He details the importance about identifying what another person is saying. Whether it’s true or what they believe to be true. If Christianity is a belief then it’s not what you know is true, it’s what you believe to be true. That helps a lot in communication. To both recognise that.
Don’t you nonsense talking philosophers ever take the time to look at the meaning and synonyms for “SOUL?” Here are some from Oxford Languages and Google and it has little or nothing to do with your superstitious and fearful views about a SOUL. Emotional or intellectual energy or intensity, especially as revealed in a work of art or an artistic performance. Inspiration, feeling, emotion, passion, animation, intensity, fervour, enthusiasm, eagerness, warmth, energy, vitality, vivacity, spiritedness, commitment, fervency, ardency, passionateness.
There is no soul or mind or spirit. There is only the whole body formed by eternal energy. The physical body ages and dies and the energy which formed it remains unchanged. You are the eternal energy which forms the body.
@Comment Warrior the Jesus Christ follower. ☦️ ✝️ Comment Warriors the Jesus Christ-followers. Soul: The spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal. There is no immortality for humans, animals, reptiles, fish, or plants. Only their chemical gets recycled. No such thing as a spiritual soul that leaves the body at death. Death is the end. All that remains are memories in other people’s minds or in history books or in and on memorials.
I love Descartes, But they didn’t do him justice. What is this guy talking about a dog soul and a human soul? Lmao ridiculous. How are they distinct? One soul is shaped like a human the other a dog? But how can something immaterial have shape?
When your soul leaves the physical body it doesn’t cease to exist, because your soul is the true self. It’s absolute energy. Energy doesn’t ever stop, it’s simply transferred to a different state or location.
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@@JamesRichardWiley to be existing one is to be of from by allexisting one alive eternal from ever for ever with no death no end no expiry no downfall no exhaustion no shorting no decrease or lessening of existantial matter but production reproduction everly on and on runner with no beginning no end but still and ever allexisting one from ever in cycle of everlasting life run and continuation.. no more consideration or deep research or going in or even thinking ..all things come from nothing but from one eternal allthings being allwhiley all wherey existence before alleyes looking bodily matteristic energatic openly never hidden but as eternal and all recoverer and keeper and nothing looser .........
I'm still waiting for everyone else to prove they have consciousness and I'm not the sole individual who's not just an organic robot. Okay, not really.
Are you, you? Or are you someone who looks and thinks exactly like you? If someone cloned you down to the molecular level and gave it the same memories as you, would that clone be you?
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 the soul is what makes you, you. The soul is your you-ness. It's immaterial. It doesn't matter if your entire physical existence is cloned, that clone is not you.
@@D123-f9k biblical word for soul is nephesh and means a living being that has spirit. And biblical word for spirit is ruach and means noncorporeal part of mind.
@@D123-f9k The soul is what makes you, you. Your entirety, aka your essence is your soul. The spirit is what makes you a living soul, gives you consciousness. I think that's what OP was trying to say.
I think the brain is the connection between the soul and the body. Your personality is part of your soul. Memory may get stored in the brain. Accessed by the soul on need.. not much different than a programmer and a computer.
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Consciousness is the Radio Signal body is the tv, when the tv breaks the signal still exists even though you cannot see the evidence through the tv anymore.
Nice analogy.
This is the best analolgy I have ever seen to explain consciousness.
That's an interesting analogy! Yes, consciousness is like a radio signal. When the radio is turned off, the signal still exists - you can't see it, but you can still hear it. Similarly, when your consciousness is disrupted, you still experience the world around you - you just can't see or understand it.
So your consciousness comes from what you watch on the TV.
Sounds about right.
I think a better analogy is that the soul is the radio signal, consciousness is the television program being displayed, and the body is the TV.
In that dynamic signal exists regardless, the TV exists until it breaks down due to time, and the program gets through/recognized based on the condition of the TV.
Though I prefer to think of it like a computer, the body is the hardware, the spirit is the electricity, and the soul is the software. In that consciousness would be something like software function that causes the screen to display what the software is doing.
I think that Eric guy is right on!
Thank you CE.
Some of this might have gone over my head and that's ok; apologists have that talent to talk your head off sometimes. Anyway, Descartes certainly wasn't saying that "you see this table? this table doesn't think so it doesn't exist". He simply said, "because I think, I'm pretty sure I exist". No more, no less. Cheers! (more or less what the second speaker said)
To add: Since he's not the table, he cannot ultimately know whether the table does think or not xD
@@LordVoldemortYT eh
He answered his question in his question. Consciousness is a proof of the soul. When you go into a coma or fall asleep, you could say you lose consciousness. That doesn’t mean you lose your soul. You just lose the proof for that period. But since it was already proven in yourself and others, it doesn’t need to be proven then too. You would need proof as to the contrary. Otherwise it’s reasonable to believe that you still have a soul when you are awake, asleep, in a coma, or while you were in the womb. Which I think makes sense.
Consciousness is proof of consciousness. It's not proof that some essential part of yourself can operate without a physical body. That's a huge leap.
Prove the contrary? That's non sense since there actually is no proof of a soul.
Actually he makes a logic fallacy.
The premise is A implies B, not B is if and only if A.
How would you define a soul?
@@incredulouspasta3304 I think you're making a valid point. It's not proof that some essential part of yourself can operate without a physical body, but it's still an indication of consciousness.
Scripture does not explicitly define what human consciousness is, though the Bible provides perspectives on it. A biblical view of human consciousness might be summarized as “the soul’s awareness of itself and its surroundings.”
However, defining human consciousness is notoriously difficult. Exploring consciousness means probing the deepest questions about what it means to be human. Such discussion typically involves a long list of mysteries and dilemmas. Some concepts are unresolved; others present competing or apparently contradictory truths. The Bible gives us practical ways to understand some such issues. On other details Scripture is silent, and we’re left to untangle questions on our own.
Biblical terms related to this subject should be carefully understood, especially according to their immediate context. Ancient terminology did not distinguish between the “mind” and the “heart” to the same extent seen in modern languages. That’s not to say emotions and intellect were never distinguished. Rather, it means words translated as “heart” in Scripture are not necessarily references to “pure feeling.” In some cases, what the Bible refers to as “the heart,” a modern writer might well label as “the mind.”
I think that I would have taken a more logic based approach: the questioner presented Descartes's statement and then asked if the statement "I think therefore I am" is true, would that lead to the inverse statement being true, logic doesn't guarantee that, only the contrapositive (I am not, therefore I do not think) can be logically concluded to be true
Even simpler put, he said "I think" not we think or you think. His requirements for an existence are exactly that, his own. It doesn't imply that no other objective standard exists.
To put it simply, the soul is the essence of who you are - your character, your emotions, your memories. Everything that makes you who you are is stored in your soul.
I agree, which reflexs what you believe
What about if you once thought abortion was ok but now you don’t?
That would leave your soul in contradiction.
@@frankcardano4142 If you once thought abortion was ok but now you don't, then your views on abortion have changed and that would be considered a change in your soul.
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Can your soul be captured in a jar?
Or stored on a hard drive?
Where exactly is your soul?
@@frankcardano4142 No, your soul cannot be captured in a jar or stored on a hard drive. Your soul is inside of you and it's always changing.
Somewhat addressed at the end, but at the risk of revealing that I'm a nerd, the question as presented seems to make the logical error of assuming the converse. "I think, therefore I am" is not logically equivalent to "I don't think, therefore I am not." It is equivalent to its contrapositive: "I am not, therefore I do not think." It's not precisely useful in this philosophical discussion, but I think that's it's an evidently true statement.
More carefully examining the question, I think it's important to note the difference between what Descartes was trying to argue and what the questioner is concerned about. Descartes was attempting to reason from as few assumptions as possible in order to determine what could be reasonably known about the universe. This initial conclusion establishes only his own existence, and doesn't even address the existence of other people at all. Attempts to reason about other people's existence would require much more information, and I think the panel explained some good arguments that can be used to consistently define those terms in the video.
Wow, I really learned from this 💖❤️
I comment, therefore I am. :)
Thumbs up!
“there was only one Christian, he died on the cross” "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him."
Our existence is not completely whatever is there in bucket of "Our Self Awareness", it is beyond our thinking and awareness. Because Brain is the third organ to form in the womb but still even before My Thinking(Brain) could exist and while My Self Awareness is Nothing/Dead/Unformed, I still existed as Zygote, Developing Baby in My Mother's Womb.
Which very clearly means "You already exist even before you could think and whatever I think is not completely me".
Your brain when born is the equivalent of scrambled eggs. There is no self awareness as it can't process self awareness, the wetware is unformed. It takes weeks of external stimuli before the brain begins to organize itself and self awareness develops.
The same laws that apply to the universe also apply to us.
If we're just the products of a cosmic accident and are destined for annihilation, thinking and learning beyond what's necessary to survive is pointless. Contemplating and philosophizing over deeper matters nets nothing when death and annihilation is waiting to destroy all that was gained.
Deeper things of this nature that also include love, art, music and observation reflect a deeper being within us that surpasses some meat inside our skulls.
We are eternal spiritual beings that will go on beyond this body of flesh. Jesus Christ bore our sins that we may be spared the condemnation of Hell. Repent and believe to be saved from the eternal punishment and inherit eternal life with Him.
Immediate strawman.
To understand another’s viewpoint fully is to put your own viewpoint at risk of being overturned and that is frightening.
Jordan Peterson. 👍
Love, art, and music don't contribute to us having more than meat in a skull. Live and other emotions are literally chemical reactions in our brains
Love Art Music belong to Humanity.
No need to credit a phantasmal entity.
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I think Pete’s been pulled over for listening to creationist vids whilst driving.
We got some real geniuses in the replies here /s
We consist of Mind, Body and Spirit. Question: Who created us in His image?
The mind is a brain state. The body is physical. I don't see any evidence to suggest that we have a spirit. And, how do you come to the conclusion that we were created in any image?
@@Generatorman59 It's okay. You belong to this world. So you will understand only this world.
@@mcmillanbmg Do you have any reason to think there is another world? How do we investigate this other world to verify it's existence?
@@Generatorman59 There are two worlds after this one. Both are eternal. You can't verify them because your physical body must be dead for your REAL you to be able to enter only one of them. That is when knowing SOMEONE becomes very important.
@@mcmillanbmg There is no difference between something that is unverifiable and something that simply does not exist. So, what is the justification for belief?
I think too much therefore I'm confused.😜
The brain creates consciousness.
I do not know what the soul is. No one has ever pointed out the soul to me.
Romans 1:18-32 ❤ Cheers friend.
@@Nathannnnnnnnnn So, the bible is true because the bible says the bible is true. Awesome...thanks!
@@Nathannnnnnnnnn
Yer, the bible also says that donkeys can talk, so I'm not sure why you are quoting it like anyone should be taking it seriously......
@@somerandom3247 Actually, the Bible just says that one particular donkey talked, because God opened its mouth...though I suspect that won't be the clinching argument.
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Yer, that's still one more than reality allows. A donkey can open its mouth as wide as it likes, it still doesn't have the anatomy required to produce human speech. God would of had to completely rearrange it's brain, throat, and mouth at a minimum. And this story being made up is far more reasonable than believing all of that.
How does anyone know any of these details about souls and natures? Is there a soul science lab that I'm unaware of?
It's a word game.
What evidence is there that a soul exists?
You want physical evidence for the spiritual? I have bad news for you chief
Just cuz you can’t prove it physically doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist though
@@hezikiawilliams392 how do you know it exists then?
Smart stuff.
Is there an experiment to prove that a soul even exists?
It's axiomatic. Axioms don't need to be "proven", that doesn't even make sense.
@@CJ-lr4uq how is a soul axiomatic?
@@CJ-lr4uq if all theists agreed on the details .
Also axioms are usually more simple than a body ghost.
@@therick363 What kind of question is that? An axiom is an axiom, it's self-evident, that's your explanation.
@@marksandsmith6778 And a soul is more than a strawman like "body ghost". Talk about childish.
2:07 Vedanta argues that there is still consciousness in these states. There just isn’t an object to illuminate the subject. So he didn’t really answer the question
Tying and untying meticulously elaborate word knots!
This is what we do to entertain ourselves.
As an agnostic, I'm fascinated by the claim that the mind is separate from the brain. What evidences do we have of this?
Your brain is an organ. A physical possession within your body. If we’re speaking spiritually here, it isn’t YOU.
YOU are a soul who HAS a body. NOT a body who HAS a soul.
So what’s the difference between mind and brain? Your brain, like your heart or liver or whatever else plays a role in the PHYSICAL function of this body you operate. But your MIND, those thoughts, that voice you hear in your head when you speak to yourself, that’s YOU. Your mind is YOU.
Frank, talk with Sadhguru
Good video
Hi, I keep raise this problem on this channel but the authors didn't gave me a complet answer. If a human didn't had conscience at all, he couldn't make any decisions, he didn't had free will. So he didn't had the chance to make the decision to trust God and what He did for us. That means that he didn't have the chance to be saved. But God is just, so every human have the chance to be saved, to take the decision to trust God. So all human should be conscience at one point, to be able to take that decision.
God is imaginary.
That's why these questions arise and will never be answered.
@@JamesRichardWiley I see you commenting a lot. Just calling everything silly or false isn’t a persuasive argument.
I felt so dumb hearing them speak...
Is there any evidence that our consciousness is distinct from the brain? As far as I know there isn't. It's fun to speculate, of course, but any talk about "souls" without evidence will just remain that: speculation.
If someone took the life of a loved one and said they are just a lump of cells who cares? How would you respond?
Notice how much detail he thinks he knows about souls. It's one thing to think magic exists. It's another to think casting fireball costs 5 mana points. I'm genuinely curious where he's getting his info from.
Better yet, if consciousness is a result of the brain and all we are are atoms and molecules. Elections firing off and bouncing off eachother randomly than how could you come to the conclusion that consciousness is the result of the brain with any certainty. How could you come to anything with any certainty? Everything is just a random cluster of electrons and atoms firing off randomly. That’s all we are. Cosmic star dust. Consciousness would be an illusion. And that would mean free will is an illusion, time is an illusion, morality and good and evil, math, science itself… love. Yup you guessed it.. all an illusion. So what do you consider evidence? Because there’s plenty of evidence for the existence of God. And if there’s a God than there is reasonable argument for the existence of the soul.
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I, personally, would say that they should be quiet. However, no one is saying that one should not care because they are just a "lump of cells" (which is an oversimplification of what organisms are, but whatever).
@@rationeextrema3776 why SHOULD they be quiet?
JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY DOOR TO OUR HEAVENLY FATHER,……….AMEN
Your heavenly father mass murdered little children and betrayed his friendship with Adam and Eve.
He knew He would do these things as part of His Divine Perfect Plan.
Why are we even talking about this? The soul hasn't been shown to be a thing.
A physical thing, no. Subject to the scientific method, no. But not everything that's real *is* subject to the scientific method. Indeed, the scientific method presupposes the trustworthiness of the non-scientific philosophical disciplines of epistemology.
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 Do we treat fairies with the same scrutinies as we do with the soul? What reason do we have to assume that fairies are real? Btw, I am not in agreement with your last sentence.
@@Generatorman59, fairies are not thought of as the most intimate aspect of being human. Obviously we don't give them as much scrutiny. Duh!
"I am not in agreement with your last sentence."
More fool you, then.
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 But, fairies deliver oxygen molecules one at a time to your lungs. They died for you! How can you not give them the same scrutiny as a soul? You need to repent and start worshiping fairies. It's written in The Holy Book of Fairies, so it has to be true!
Inspiring Philosophy has a video on this subject. There are people out there born without a brain who exhibit consciousness
No, they likely still have a brain, just malformed. If they were without a whole brain, then they would not be able to breathe, pump their heart, vomit, swallow, etc. Consciousness would not even be there. You need a brain for that, even one that is missing parts or damaged. The condition I am referring to, by the way, is anencephaly.
@@rationeextrema3776 Some people may argue that a person who is born without a brain is still conscious because they can still exhibit some signs of intelligence.
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I am not saying a person who has a malformed brain cannot exhibit signs of intelligence, I am just saying they have a brain. Albeit incomplete.
No brain to run the body functions and keep it alive?
References please.
@@mrshankj5101 they are not exhibiting intelligence but automatic responses genetically endowed. Pain response, light in eye response many are automatic. Sheri s chia o had a brain rotted to the size of a walnut but would show reflexive acts. She was brain dead.
Alternatively, we could just accept the biblical explanation that man does not possess a soul but that man IS a soul.
Alternatively, we could put the bible back in the fiction section where it belongs and start basing out beliefs on reality instead.
@@somerandom3247 : I suspect, from your comment, that you are not a believer. That's fine. But you do ask that we base our beliefs on reality. The reality is that most Christians don't have a clue about what the Bible teaches and believe in a God and form of Chhhristianity made up by later Church fathers based on Greek philosophy. Let me briefly give you some examples. :
1. Most Christians - and indeed many other religions - teach that man has an immortal soul that survives death. Yet, the Bible teaches the exact opposite. It teaches that man is a nephesh (soul) and so are all other living, breathing creatures. They are all souls. The Bible is clear: The soul is mortal. It dies.(Ezek 18:4) Thus, the fact that we, as living beings, creatures , souls die is in harmony with scientific fact and our reality.
2. Based on the false belief of a soul, most believe that the good go to heaven and the bad go to the fires of Hell. Again, the Bible actually teaches something very different. It does not say that all good people go to heaven. Indeed, such an idea was unknown to Moses and the prophets. Likewise, the Hebrew word for 'Hell' is sheol, which simply meant the grave. This is where all dead people end up. Good and bad alike. In sheol, there is no conscious existence (and no immortal soul to torment) . Ecc9; 5, 10. Most reference books should easily explain this. Indeed we find examples of people in the bible, like Job, wanting to go to the Bible 'Hell' to escape their suffering. They understood that death ends suffering.
So, even if you don't believe the Bible, which you clearly don't, I have at least shown you that what it says about death is in complete harmony with what we perceive as reality.
@@gerryquinn5578 except it contradicts itself and claims the soul is immortal. It's a fairy tale written by unknown sheep herders.
@@brianpeterson8908 : Where does it say the soul is immortal ?
@@gerryquinn5578 eternal life isn't possible if it's not immortal.
There's no such thing as a soul.
Next silly question?
"I think therefore I am"
The trans community definitely take that philosophy way too literally.
I think therefore I am
Not I am what I think I am
@@InitialPC I am what I am and thats all that I am, I'm Joseph the Christian man 🕊️✝️
@@majinhiei7 Amen to that brother
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 key word is think, atheists use faith entirely for their world view as atheism lacks any real evidence.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 The reason we know atheists are arrogant is because they feel the need to spend their lives watching Christian videos and being rude to everyone.
As if it debunks the existence of God.
_God exists, therefore I am,_ is a more pertinent statement, i believe. For to even exist, when you think about it, is a reality that one could meditate on indefinitely in regards to its implications. That means someONE, specifically the Creator of everything, made a *decision* that I would exist. That is the Crux of the legitimacy of all human life, for we are the only ones given the option to embrace or reject that reality.
That’s a statement that would need to me demonstrated to be a fact though.
@@therick363 This is not to convince non-believers to believe so, with all due respect, this statement is not to you but to those who believe in the living God. You are free to believe or not believe whatever you choose so, please don't be concerned that we would even _attempt_ to proselytize you.
God exists?
Can you arrange a meeting?
Because he sounds like make believe to me.
@@JamesRichardWiley He succeeded in getting you to occupy yourself w/ thoughts of Him (to the tune of 1,000+ comments on a channel devoted to Him) so maybe you are the one to be answering your own question.
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Do you have evidence to prove a god was involved? James is perfectly capable of making comments without any need of a god.
For once I'd like to see some actual evidence of this supposed god. Instead of the baseless claims theists keep presenting.
Of course, that which we call the "soul" is an emergent phenomenon at the top level of consciousness. The soul is entirely a by-product of the brain and its activity.
There is no soul. I am the whole body/mind/consciousness.
That's it.
I can see that. What people call the soul is really just a title given to a group of brain functions. Nothing supernatural, not something that actually exists, just the title for a group of completely natural brain functions.
IS THAT LEIGHTON :)
“If you declare with your mouth “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9). Now is the time to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior. Obey His commands and repent of your sins because Jesus is coming back soon. Tomorrow isn’t promised.
Jesus died for you was buried and rose again on the third day according to the scriptures. If you confess with your mouth Jesus is lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will be saved. please repent of your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior.
Amen
According to the scriptures written by Hebrews without the iphones to record the greatest event in human history.
What does this comment have to do with the Cogito?
Do you have any evidence to show any of that actually happened?
Or are we expected to blindly believe your book full of fictional stories and talking animals?
Because I'm not gullible enough for the latter.
My goodness people actually think humans have souls? They probably think the earth is flat too. Ridiculous.
Genesis 2 v 7. GOD formed man out of the dust and breathed into his nostrils and man became a living soul, We do not have a soul "" we are a living soul "" And the breath of GOD gives us consciousness and when we die our breath goes back to GOD, Ecclesastic 12 v 7 , our spirit is our life our very thoughts which is from GOD ,
I know all that and don't believe any of it. Sorry.
What's the difference between soul n spirit?
@@JamesRichardWiley it's what the bible says ,
Cool. The bible also says that donkeys can talk, so I'm not sure why you are quoting it like anyone should take anything it says seriously.
Do you have some actual evidence of a soul? Or even a good reason to believe that such a thing exists?
Baseless claims from a book full of fictional stories doesn't cut it for the majority of humanity I'm sorry.
Genesis 2-5 show you what a soul is and what the state of the dead is. That concept of a human soul and an animal soul is Greek philosophy as well as most of this guy's answer. The Bible is clear dust + breath of life = a living soul. Dust - breath of life = dust.
You don't know if any of that is true. Let's just stick with what we can observe and evaluate: dust + dust = more dust
Genesis... A mythical story is your source... Nice.
The Mind is distinct from the brain what???
So do you think the question you are asking is made up of hormones,electric signals,cells in your body.
The mind is a word that describes brain activity. The mind IS the brain. They are not separate items.
Thanks that makes sense
Jesus is lord he offering you a free gift not of works we all have sinned in fallen short of God. God has offer you a free gift threw his son Jesus. you cant earn yourself to heaven by being a "good person" were all sinners the way to get to heaven is to believe that Jesus died for your sins in was buried in rose again on the third day that he shed his blood for you that is the gospel believe it in your save. Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: if you believe the gospel you are eternally secured (once saved always saved) sealed to the day of redemption. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. when you sin you grieve the holy spirit but you do not lose it you are sealed unto the day of redemption.
This is so undemocratic and unamerican it gives me the willies.
A soul, is a life.
Gen. 2:7. A dead person, is a dead soul.
The soul, is not immortal.
The life force is an infinite, deathless, energy that temporarily forms all living things.
@@JamesRichardWiley that's satanic believe ,
You are just making fool of your self. You = Soul, Your Self = Body, Mind and Emotions.
You can assert the existence of the soul all you want. That is a far cry (literally on the other end of speculative philosophy) from the rock bottom philosophy of "I think therefore I am."
And going beyond that non-knowledge to entertain specifics on how soul stuff works is akin to speculating about whether Peter Pan can reattach his shadow with soap. You don't know anything even if you happen to be right that souls exist! The Bible on this topic doesn't even make stuff up for you to arbitrarily believe!
soul is mind will and emotions, your spirit goes to heaven.
Can you source your information, please?
By "goes to heaven" do you mean "stops functioning"? Because that's what happens to those brain functions when you die.
@@somerandom3247 If you're given a new form and God completes the christ likeness in you upon arrival what need would you have for the old mind?
@@gainmeister4505 Can you source the assertion that you're given a new form and god completes the christ likeness in you?
@@Generatorman59 2nd corinthians:5 will answer the most part of that.
Telling the truth is different than telling someone what you think is true.
Jordan Peterson.
Any creationist think these two are the same?
Frank, I've read enough of your comments by now to be able to chime in and say you're not nearly as smart as you think you are. Please at least consider the possibility for a moment before you continue to just like, say things.
@@CJ-lr4uq Hi. 👋
Possibility of what?
@@frankcardano4142 Of what I just said; that you're not merely as smart as you think you are. A lot of Western young men of average or below IQ nowadays think they're qualified to speak on things because they've listened to Jordan Peterson clips on UA-cam. At least get past the first rudimentary rung of the ladder, which is not making strawman arguments. No one has claimed that telling the truth and telling what they think is true are one in the same. Not even close.
@@CJ-lr4uq
Where did I quantify how smart I think I am?
Try to remember your leaders deny evolution and even claim that it’s false or wrong even though none of them are evolutionary biologists and almost all of them are completely uneducated in any science whatsoever.
Yet they think they’re smarter than the worlds scientists.
There’s your “Not as smart as they think they are”.
@@CJ-lr4uq
I was simply quoting Peterson from his chapter “Assume the person you’re listening to might know something you don’t”.
He details the importance about identifying what another person is saying.
Whether it’s true or what they believe to be true.
If Christianity is a belief then it’s not what you know is true, it’s what you believe to be true.
That helps a lot in communication.
To both recognise that.
Don’t you nonsense talking philosophers ever take the time to look at the meaning and synonyms for “SOUL?”
Here are some from Oxford Languages and Google and it has little or nothing to do with your superstitious and fearful views about a SOUL.
Emotional or intellectual energy or intensity, especially as revealed in a work of art or an artistic performance.
Inspiration, feeling, emotion, passion, animation, intensity, fervour, enthusiasm, eagerness, warmth, energy, vitality, vivacity, spiritedness, commitment, fervency, ardency, passionateness.
There is no soul or mind or spirit.
There is only the whole body formed by eternal energy.
The physical body ages and dies and the energy which formed it remains unchanged.
You are the eternal energy which forms the body.
@Comment Warrior the Jesus Christ follower. ☦️ ✝️
Comment Warriors the Jesus Christ-followers.
Soul: The spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal.
There is no immortality for humans, animals, reptiles, fish, or plants.
Only their chemical gets recycled.
No such thing as a spiritual soul that leaves the body at death.
Death is the end. All that remains are memories in other people’s minds or in history books or in and on memorials.
I love Descartes, But they didn’t do him justice. What is this guy talking about a dog soul and a human soul? Lmao ridiculous. How are they distinct? One soul is shaped like a human the other a dog? But how can something immaterial have shape?
Soul only exists in a body
Umm... No.
When your soul leaves the physical body it doesn’t cease to exist, because your soul is the true self. It’s absolute energy. Energy doesn’t ever stop, it’s simply transferred to a different state or location.
@@karozans where else does it exist then?
@@minduniverse4506 hydroelectric energy is not a light bulb, a soul is a psyche, something personal and individual.
@@alexmaremaa7057 that’s also true. Doesn’t make my statement any less true
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Was this supposed to mean something?
@@JamesRichardWiley to be existing one is to be of from by allexisting one alive eternal from ever for ever with no death no end no expiry no downfall no exhaustion no shorting no decrease or lessening of existantial matter but production reproduction everly on and on runner with no beginning no end but still and ever allexisting one from ever in cycle of everlasting life run and continuation.. no more consideration or deep research or going in or even thinking ..all things come from nothing but from one eternal allthings being allwhiley all wherey existence before alleyes looking bodily matteristic energatic openly never hidden but as eternal and all recoverer and keeper and nothing looser .........
Still waiting for someone to explain, demonstrate and prove a soul…..
I'm still waiting for everyone else to prove they have consciousness and I'm not the sole individual who's not just an organic robot.
Okay, not really.
@@nocx4592 but still a good thought.
Are you, you? Or are you someone who looks and thinks exactly like you? If someone cloned you down to the molecular level and gave it the same memories as you, would that clone be you?
@@gospel2dgeek indeed. It’s a very interesting thought experiment. I would imagine one day we’ll have to figure it out.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 the soul is what makes you, you. The soul is your you-ness. It's immaterial. It doesn't matter if your entire physical existence is cloned, that clone is not you.
Spirit, not soul. Again using antibiblical terminology borrowed from Greek philosophy
Is there a distinction between the concepts that I am not aware of, or do you just have a preference for one term over the other?
@@D123-f9k soul is your emotions, spirit is what is born again.
@@D123-f9k biblical word for soul is nephesh and means a living being that has spirit. And biblical word for spirit is ruach and means noncorporeal part of mind.
@@D123-f9k The soul is what makes you, you. Your entirety, aka your essence is your soul. The spirit is what makes you a living soul, gives you consciousness. I think that's what OP was trying to say.
The spirit is eternal energy, which is you.
I think the brain is the connection between the soul and the body. Your personality is part of your soul. Memory may get stored in the brain. Accessed by the soul on need.. not much different than a programmer and a computer.