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I miss my father but he used to say that death was an adventure and that we must approach it as such. So I try to do that and just hope that he and the others gone ahead of me are all a part of my future adventure too. I wish the same for you too.
In 1982 I had a head on collision whilst driving on a highway. The cars stopped each other where they collided, both doing 100 km/h. My injuries were catastrophic and I was told I died, twice during hospitalisation. This afforded me a NDE which was profound. Yes I had the archetypal NDE the tunnel, brilliant light and a feeling of absolute love and care. I was very much myself throughout the whole thing and I was aware of ‘people’ around me who had my wellbeing at heart. I argued strongly that I was not finished yet. Actually argued is not quite right, it was a passionate discussion. I needed to return to my life. These ‘entities’ argued that my life would be hard if I went back but I didn’t care. I saw no heaven or hell or any such thing, and I saw no faces. It was all a telepathic sort of discussion, as if i were all in a place without vision. They were patient with me and respectful. Immediately I woke up back in my life. I was in a hospital with people working on me and a nurse put her face close to me, I could see her though I didn’t know for weeks that my head was like a basketball and my eyes were puffy slits. I said to her, ‘ do you have anything for pain, this is really starting to hurt.’ A week or so later I awoke in a hospital bed. My jaw was wired shut and I slowly became aware of my situation. There were tubes hanging out of me in various locations and when I tried to move I realised I was very badly injured. My wife was told at one point, that if I lived the night I would never be anything more than a vegetable. Later she was told I would never walk again. It took a year before I could stand again and it’s quicker to list what I didn’t break or damage, or lose. But I did walk again, and I went on to be the manager of some extremely large construction projects. Sure I have on going issues, I was left with chronic pain. At the time doctors told me I would have a headache for two years. Well it’s been around forty years now, and I have a lot of other pain. My standing joke is, I have only ever had one headache in my life - mind you, it lasted the whole of my life. Boom, boom ! I have never been a religious man, though I explored many religions in my youth. To me religion is a construct, like money or grammar. It provides a lot of people with comforting thoughts and provides a lot of people with a very nice living, without having to get a real job. There is no heaven or hell, there is no evil, just things we really don’t like done to us or others. So now I am approaching seventy years old, having crashed my car at twenty one years old. Yes, life can be tough, but it was worth every moment of coming back. What I came to understand is that we are always ourself, no matter what. There are many universes and more dimensions to discover. Primarily we just keep being re-inserted into new lives. Why? We are learning about ourselves, we are experiencing a vast thing so that we can comprehend the positions of others. We are growing with each experience and we are absolutely meant to be here. We are made of the same stuff that the universe is made from. We are an intrigal part of it all, but we are ourselves. We never lose that, whatever we are doing. Take the ride, stop worrying and rise above the petty fears and jealousies. Stop harming others and show them some compassion. Show some love and enjoy it. Smell the flowers, feed the animals and the joy will make you happy.
You had your wreck the year after I was born. I know that the quest to understand collective consciousness and higher levels of thinking, living, and ascending has been growing for a while now, but I am really impressed to see someone of your generation who has such a "new age" modern understanding and belief system!! Is this something that you already had started coming to realize before you had the wreck and your experience, as you said you had studied many different religions in your youth, or did it all start to click after the experience? I'd really like to ask you a lot of questions some time just to satisfy my own curiosity as your perspective has intrigued me! And glad you survived the ordeal in order to share your story!
@@الكاشف-د7ل you should check out a series, mainly via GAIA but you can find several episodes actually here on youtube, called Initiation with Matias de Stefano, with an open-minded approach and mindset of course. He gives some amazing explanations to so many higher level questions on existence and the universe.
Ali Ahmed- thank you for your advice. There is a copy of the Quran in my household and I was struck by the similarities of this book and The Bible. I know less about it than I do about the bible, because I grew up in the west. People have said that the bible is God’s word and some think it actually came from God. But he didn’t fax it to us, men wrote it and at the conference of Mycea men decided who;s stories were in and who’s were out. King James then decided what his version of the bible would have in it, and I know a lot happened in between, but I’m paraphrasing. As I said, I know the Quoran less. But I’m sure it’s a great book and helps many people in their navigation of this thing we are experiencing. This life. So far I have been impressed by many Muslim people, it’s a great religion. But there are extreme idiots who take it out of context. We are no stranger to such people. For Christian’s also have some extreme idiots. That’s just people. We are all learning, and are all at different levels. I leave it too there’s to judge where they think I may be. But why must we have so much bloodshed over who is right and who is wrong. Just respect each other and try to be helpful. It feels much better. Ang31, thank you for your kind words. And yes, I had largely formulated my belief system before my car crash. That just brought it all into sharper focus. I am not sure someone of my generation having these thoughts is any monumental thing. There have been man people for thousands of years with very incitefull vies. Our ancestors were not idiots, they also needed to understand the big questions and some Greek philosophers were far more eloquent than I could ever be. Others also had profound thoughts, but not quite the same need to shout it to the world. I am against war, I am against violence (not all violence is physical). I prefer to try to understand, to learn where I can, to help others if needed. In no way do I want to shove my beliefs down any one else’s thought. I could be wrong! It’s a work in progress. Thank you for saying you are glad I survived, I am glad too. Tomorrow is another day, enjoy it. Be free, do good where you can. Believe what works for you.
ang3l : If you have further questions, feel free to ask. I’ll do my best, but I don’t think I am anything special. I think many people have enquiring minds and want answers. Obviously I only have my particular journey, my experiences to draw on, but I tend to ruminate on things a while. Before I get any answers I’m happy with, it sort of has to bounce off everything else I know, or perhaps think I know. Eventually it drops out and I have another piece to the jigsaw that I am happy with. The new piece will do until someone challenges it with a better fit, then providing their view is better than mine, I will adopt that. Oh, also my apologies for the delay, had some other challenges to attend to.
A zen master was once asked what happens after death and he replied, “I don’t know.” His questioner was taken aback, and said, “but you’re a zen master: you MUST know.” The zen master smiled and answered back, “yes, but I’m not a dead zen master.” Until it happens, we do not know.
You don't have to die to know what death is. By understanding how the mind works you can make a reasonable assessment. I have undergone anaesthesia that suppresses brain activity and I had no experience of being unconscious, it was as if no time passed for me, I had no sensation of existence whatever, any more than I experienced non-existence before I was born. Even a Zen master can't tell you what that is like because it is like nothing. That doesn't mean you are just as likely to become a ghost, go to heaven or get reincarnated as someone else.
@@jeromehorwitz2460 yes perhaps that’s what death is - the absence of knowing or even the absence of the one who knows rather than a someone who doesn’t know...
@@robbiepeterh Death is an absence of the subjective viewpoint and it's attendant memories that you identify as your "self." It's impossible for a living person to imagine that, though, and that gives an intriguing terror to it.
When my father died in my arms, looking into my eyes I saw an energy, a beautiful golden light in his eyes that slowly faded as he passed. Its very hard to describe but Ill never forget it. It moved up and out of his body and gave me a feeling that it would always exist but somewhere else.
I saw pain in mine and sorrow to not live a full life with his wife.. But he had lived so strong just not with the love of his life. Who can believe and see this happen.. Live here and now.. Cherish the moment because as far as I can see this is it. To the memory of my grandad..
I witnessed a silver-white ball of light, like a revolving snowball, rise up from my mother the moment she departed. Nobody else saw it, including my uncle, her brother, who was present. Afterwards he took me aside and confided that he had seen the identical thing (his description was uncanny) when attending the death of their Granny Ning. My mother's last wish was to have the photograph of her beloved "Ning" at her bedside and I had made certain it was right there beside her.
That must have been lovely but the overwhelming majority, experience nothing! Also Dar far more people that are resuscitated or are very close to death but recover, experience or remember nothing !
So beautiful and so precise. No energy is ever lost in this world. Nothing ever ends and to believe that we are just a spark of light that dies with the decay of our organic host is absurd and naive. Your father will always be around. You just cant see him :)
i struggle with Death Anxiety. I wasn't sure if i was going to be able to watch this video without having an anxiety attack, but it was actually a very interesting pleasant video. I can completely related to your want/need to be YOU. Resurrection is what think I want as well, but I would be ok with a transformative aspect and just be able to remember who I was.. if that makes any sense.
I understand the thought of death giving you anxiety for me it's blood and gore that give me anxiety. But knowing that eventually for one reason or another you're going to die whether you like it or not should actually have the opposite effect you're going to get what you think of as a consequence regardless of your actions so you might as well just do it 🤷 kind of like a fuck it moment.... If that makes sense
Death is final for people that are just mortals. Death is a door that opens for people that are more than just mortals. I met a guy in jail that joked saying: "everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die". The only thing that is really tragic and devastating about death is that it is unavoidable, and we know it. Why waste time worrying about something completely out of my hands? Much better to spend my time making my life worth living it all over again.
I used to be afraid of death, but when I came close once, convinced it could really be the end, it wasn't nearly as bad as I imagined. My only regret was that I had left many things unfinished. But the thought of slipping over wasn't scary in any way.
@@imanafdarI’d imagine to know you are about to die or at least think you are dying would be absolutely terrifying. Especially if young or leaving behind children or loved ones.
@@Mattwolf1186 ive tasted it 2 times and im 28, it was very scary when you slowly turn cold, harder to breath, your vision getting blurred, the pain you feel. Anyone who never tasted it always underestimate how it feels, common people mistake is they cant differentiate between seeing + knowing and experiencing it yourself. You dont truly understand something until you experience it
@@imanafdar Exactly, and we try to put it off as much as possible and try to not think about it or imagine it being at some distant time. There are a lot of these near death experiences claiming that consciousness exists after physical death and others who claim they experienced nothing like deep sleep so idk what to believe about afterlife but I am a believer in Christ.
I used to be an autopsy assistant, and, while preparing the body for the autopsy, I very often felt a sense of awareness- that the consciousness of the deceased was in the room, lingering, following the death of the body. This perception was so real to me, that it has contributed to my belief that consciousness does continue, after the death of the physical body.
@MsDudette21 His proof is conscious perception and proximity to death. There are definitive limits to what can and cannot be empirically proven, consciousness itself chief among them. Lack of empirical evidence does not preclude reality.
I had a NDE in August 2007 and spend 7 days in a Coma while my face was peeled off and rebuilt with titanium. Death is the separation of consciousness from the physical body and the ego identifications. We become a higher witnessing presence, a infinite loving consciousness, when the physical body dies. Death is really just the death of the ego as we move from our limited consciousness back to source. This is the state of oneness which is our true nature.
No, as the name suggests, you had a Near Death Experience. Not actual Death, but near death. You didn’t clinically die. No one has come back from being clinically dead. Clinically dead means zero brain activity. You are gone Dead. What you experienced was pretty traumatic. But your brain remained active throughout. During this you could potentially hear or see anything. Hallucinations, dreams, etc. Your brain was fighting for survival. So everything you claim to have witnessed would be expected. Nothing supernatural or magical. Just common brain activity. The fact that you had this and remember it, is a good sign.
@@darkknikk9274 But it can't be. Near death experience and sleep may be similar in that during each your brain remains active. But not death itself. Once you are dead, all activity ceases. There is nothing. No flash of light, or crash of sound. Not even a pin drop. Time has no meaning. When you had no concept of waiting around before you were born, it can also be said that at the moment of your death, the Cosmos itself will die. Profound, right?
I was in a coma, and there was absolutely nothing. I was just gone until I reawakened in my healing brain. It wasn't scary or joyous. It wasn't really anything.
I love how Mr. Kuhn approached this subject: Almost with my exact POV, asking questions and making statements I would have. I was enthralled for the entire episode, and felt it ended far too quickly.
You all mentioned you wished it hadn't ended so quickly and wanted more. There is another one by him called: "Is there Life After Death 201.". But personally, this was all too goofy for me. People making up there own theories = trying to mix science and some basis on religions that "all agree" or whatever...when all religion itself was/is the same as this - just simple people speculating on death and making stuff up. It's straight to Christopher Hitchens or Sam Harris after this for some reality checking for me, lol, but hey I wish you godspeed.
@@govindagovindaji4662 Thanks for the recommendation, but I've already seen it. This is a subject where we have no alternative but to speculate. And, sure, aspects of that speculation may seem goofy to some (religions all seem goofy to me!). I suppose that's inevitable. I don't see anything wrong with exploring avenues outside your normal range. If Hitchens and Harris are more your daily speed, just consider this a short trip into the periphery. Out of curiosity, what is it Hitchens or Harris say about death that you consider a "reality check"? They don't have a clue what happens either. When it comes to the unknowable, just because you may agree that a certain scenario feels more plausible doesn't mean it is. I'm not saying this as anything other than a cautionary knell: If you're really looking to expand your mind (on ANY subject), take care not to fall into the trap of listening ONLY to people you already know you agree with. That's how a person gets stuck in an intellectual rut. Don't stop taking those trips to the periphery, in other words. Your comment kind of comes across as, "This line of questioning is 'goofy', so let me go back to where I know I will always hear what I want to hear." That's a slippery slope, and an easy one to get stuck on. Godspeed to you as well. We can all use a bit of luck and good fortune.
I'm really sorry for your loss. Has there been ANY sign as to where there might be a possibility they are trying to reach out? Like lets say faucet turning on by itself? Maybe feeling like your partner touching you? Anything?
@@sunnyy1322 one night I was crying and really going through it. Out of nowhere I got up plugged in her alarm clock and put on Pearl Jams last kiss and I only heard the lyrics about God taking my baby but I got to be good so I can see my baby one day...I was using alot of drugs and alcohol after she passed...I could feel her in the room with me.. I been meditating alot the week prior to this where I also had contact with her. In my comment I was talking about being with her after I pass...
There is going to be a resurrection by Jesus Christ (John 5:28, John 11:25, and Isaiah 26:19, because after Armegedden Christ is going to raise the dead back to life, and they will have to be taught the truth about God.
@@bernicejenkins1515 Where do you suppose the complex design of the animals and the human body came from, a big bang? You have to be kidding, you really don't fall into that line of BS do you. Don't even text me if can't come up with something better than what you just did because you are just embarrassing yourself.
My parents knew they were going to die. My dad withdrew money a couple weeks before he died to help pay bills after he went. My mom a few months before she died she started talking in past tense. One day she said to me, "We had a hard time didn't we?" Oh man, that tore me up because I grew up troubled. Anyhow I was with her when she died
Why be afraid to lose your sense of identity when that happens each time you fall asleep? Every night we experience what it's like to fade away to nothing.
@@bennyskim how do you know it will return in the morning? People fall asleep expecting to return but some people never wake up although most expect to wake up.
when you go to seep you don,t know you,r asleep and when you die you don,t know you,r dead.i know because i died twice last year and when i came back the time was just gone that,s why i,m not afraid to die because it doesn,t hurt
@@TaPharoah didn,t see or feel anythig i was looking at the doctor one minute and then everything was gone and i came to, three days later.if the doctors hadn,t of saved me i wouldn,t of known that i had died
I worked in a nursing home for four years. Someone from your past comes to get you. I can't count how many times people told me a family member, dog etc. Was there to get them.
Cheryl, I have heard that it’s not uncommon for a familiar face to ‘come and lead you’ when it’s your time. Someone or something you loved. However nothing like that happened in my case. Not sure why. I have always been robustly independent in my thoughts and deeds, so perhaps they figured I didn’t need it. I really don’t know. But if it gives people comfort and helps them in this profound transition, then it’s a wonderful thing. It does make you wonder who decides all this, doesn’t it? What things are are work here? It’s fascinating and each of us comes to our own ideas of what’s going on. I guess even the ones who didn’t have an opinion, either because it was too difficult to contemplate or they did not have the time, still have to come to terms with it all. Perhaps they were taken in an unexpected way, such as as shooting or an explosion. But the one certainty here is that our time will come. It would be nice to have been able to devote some time to considering that moment. It may be that when it’s our time to die, the passing of time as we knew it becomes irrelevant, slowed down. Then it wouldn’t be such a shocking process. My gut feeling is that we simply rejoin a vast expanse of consciousness when we die. Wouldn’t it be great if this ‘life business’ was just the eternal consciousness entertaining itself. Sort of a Super Mario game where you are ‘inserted’ into another being, just to experience what goes on in that particular world. Whilst in ‘the game’ we find ourselves wondering about the meaning of it all. It’s all sooo real we might opine, not unreasonably ! Then bang, the game is over, your credit runs out and it’s ‘come in number 24, your times up.’ We suddenly find ourselves back in the immortal realm thinking, ‘that was great, sooo realistic ! Next time, let’s try the tank commander or the fighter jet pilot. Guess we will all find out on the day, who’s beliefs were closest to the truth. But keep in mind, that day is coming. You would be wise to enjoy this life to the max until then because you may never get back. The next ‘insertion’ may see you as a mollusc on volcano world #17. Your imagination could have a field day here, it it hasn’t already. My glimpse behind the Wizard’s curtain (NDE) may or may not have given me a preview of what’s to come. Personally I don’t feel uniquely qualified to advise anyone else on their journey. All I can do is honestly tell you what I think happened to me. Do what you will with it, if it helps you then good. But ultimately I’m just another schmuck trying to make sense of it all.
@darthdude Hmmm, I’m gonna go with the premise that your answer was just poking a bit of friendly fun. That’s ok, we are able to see the funny side of many things too and we can take criticism. In fact I respect your right to be punished for saying anything you like. My family motto is, ‘The flogging will continue until the mood of the crew improves.’
@Lisa Jordan How can a person have a sense of self or of reality without memory? And how can memory operate without functioning brain cells, a nervous system, a body to support them and a universe from which they all grow?
I think Deepak has the right idea- we cling to all the things we identify ourselves with but in moments of presence we not only still feel like/are ourselves but in such a more incredible and infinite way
It's strange he took this on from the point of view of "I am me, the adult I am right now. That IS me, this personality is me. I want that to be permanent and live on after death". Even though who he is now, his personality, the person he identifies with didn't exist when he was 6 yrs old, or 15, or 23...etc. His personality that he had when he filmed this was slowly created and adjusted by every experience he had up to that point. It's baffling he chooses his personality to identify with. Whatever self is, it's definitely not the personalities we've built up. The personality he has now, compared to the one he will have when he's 90 will be different. So which is the real him he so strongly wants to live as forever after death?
different yes , same core person though , i am the sum of my experiences and memories , but i am the person who experienced them yesterday and today and tomorrow
Exactly. Consciousness is not the contents of consciousness. It's simply the awareness. Consciousness is a flow of information. Self is the structure of experiences into a narrative through memories, it's true. And those memories are stored in the brain. Your subjective awareness is consciousness being aware of and through your brain and body. When the brain and body die the self dies but consciousness is a flow of information that exists in and through all things at different levels. Consciousness never dies.
I disagree. I feel that I’m, fundamentally, the same personality that I was from my first waking moment in this life. I have expanded through experience, but strip away the experiences, and the learning, and I’m essentially the same person. 🤗🤗
i agree , i was different at 15 sure, but i am connected and i am still the same person , different in the respect i am wiser and more informed about life, but still me the same me i remember , still making some of the mistakes and personality flaws i had back then, still had the same ideas, fears and conversations in my my mind i have now, people change but they aren't completely different , that is a misconception. if i met myself in a time machine at 48 (now) to my 15 year old self , we would be not so different as you think.
*This man wants to somehow "choose" the afterlife that he wishes, as if he could choose the truth, as if the universe should bend itself in order to pleasure him. What a nonsense way to be closer to truth !*
We see it everytime he goes into a interview if it does not persevere the self the identity after death than he can’t accept it but he can’t accept it partially because it is subjective but mostly because he’s ego is simply to big to give in into this “one with the universe and give up the self into becoming part of the bigger universe or god/reincarnation ”sense of the afterlife.
I don’t know, but it seems that he uses this tactic on purpose in order to stimulate people to go deeper on their explanations and give him as much as he pursues.
I've listened to at least hundreds of near-death experiencers telling their story. Many of them say that when they die, they have a feeling of their consciousness, being-ness greatly expanding. They say they remember and feel who they are AND remember and feel who they were in previous lives. Some say that it seems like all their lives are happening at the same time. Many say that time is different after death - that all the times are happening all at once. They say when they focus on a time or a situation and place, they go there or can see it, and experience it as if it is happening right then. Many say they can not only see in front of them but also in all directions. Some say their knowledge of all things greatly expands, that there is a sense of knowing all about the universe, of having all their questions answered. They say it's like they have the feeling they knew it before and then forgot it. There is talk about the veil - the presumably purposeful forgetting they do when they decide to live another life. Many say they have some role in planning the life they want to live, like choosing certain things they want to experience in their lives or choosing who their parents will be. They say they choose to AND agree to live the life - some call it a contract. Some experience a life review: they say they experience their life not only as they experienced it, but also as the people that they interacted with experienced it. So, if you hurt or helped someone during your life, then in your life review you will feel it exactly as they did as if you were them. Most say there is no one outside themselves judging them. Most say that there is an indescribable, intense feeling of unconditional love during the experience, especially in the light.
By definition if someone is telling you what it was like to die, they didn't die. Losing consciousness for a while, or the body going into a suspended state for a period of time and then being revived is not death. The reported experiences are real but are only interpreted as dying, they are not actual death, any more than flying in a dream is really flying. All of what you are describing has been expressed as experiences of meditation or drugs. There is no evidence whatsoever that consciousness survives death.
@@coachafella Not true. You can confirm by looking at the credible research, including that of Dr. Sam Parnia. Also by viewing the testimonies of highly credible people who died, and while dead, observed and gained information about what was happening or had happened outside their bodies, information that was later confirmed by other highly credible people - just one example is the experience of neuroscientist Eben Alexander III.
@@SkysMomma What's not true? That people telling us what it's like to die didn't die? Redefining death isn't evidence of death or life after death. Consider the simple fact that the people telling you what is was like to die are remembering the experience, which can only mean that the memory portion of their brain was working and recording experiences. That is not death. There are various states of brain activity, but death means no brain activity ever again. There is no mechanism by which memory can be created if the neurons are dead. If the neurons didn't die it wasn't death. I accept the desire to believe in existence after death, and confirmation bias is incredibly strong, but there is no credible evidence of consciousness separate from a biological substrate with some functional capacity. We have known for 100's of years that injury to the brain has a direct impact on consciousness and mental function. There are many thousands of documented cases of partial loss of capacity and function as a result of various brain injuries. It defies all rationality, that full conscious function would miraculously be restored if the entire brain was dead or destroyed. Reports of life after death are not reports of life after death. They are reports of life experiences pre-death.
@@coachafella When you said that the people did not actually die - that is not true. They were dead according to all the standard definitions of death - no new definitions. That is easy to confirm if you watch a number of doctors’ video testimonies. And by the way, I don’t approach this from any religious perspective or with preconceived assumptions about what consciousness after death is all about. I approach it from a scientific perspective.
but death is the end. How would evolution generate something beyond that? Why would it? How would it benefit the species? Our species. We are one of many species that have evolved upon this rock, why would we be special enough to be awarded an after-life? Is it not more likely that through our evolution and understanding, we have developed a wishful thinking?
@@StephenMartinMusic evolution still does not explain consciousness. Which is where most philosophers say the mysteries of a possible after life would be
@@StephenMartinMusic well this is certainly a case that could be true, but if we want to be more clear, it depends on the point of view you choose to do. I would take your question and modify it a bit. Why would evolution generate anything in the first place? Why does anything exist? Why there are physics and mathematical relations to the universe? Evolution is a fact, physics is a fact, and if you try to answer these questions i asked without attaching anything metaphysical to it, the only answer you will be able to get is "just cause". But, if accept a metaphysical element, such as that life is eternal through an immaterial self, more "reasonable" answers can arise such as that everything is inside consciousness and physics and evolution for example has a role serving the eternal self to eternally grow and death is just another experience in that eternal grow. I'm not trying to propose any solution to the death problem here, i am just trying to demonstrate that "empty" and "irrational" thoughts can also arise from a completely material point of view.
@@derek2773 What is consciousness? Is it not just an awareness of your surroundings? Is it not just the ability to think? will I be in danger here? Is this something unique to us Humans? Definitely not. Dogs have the ability to think about tasks. Will I chase this ball, or will I not? what are the dangers? what are the rewards? Other species also have this ability. In fact its hard to determine at what level the perception of consciousness has evolved throughout evolution. In which it has. Most definitely. Hey, I know that you can perceive thoughts to somehow be conceived outside your body, but this is just an illusion. Your brain is structured in such a way that allows this feature. How do we know? Well as an example; If your head is subject to a trauma you can lose consciousness. This in itself answers your question. Humans through either a lack of understanding or its own need to be at the doorway of something greater, has the ability to dream up any possibility (True or False). And we give it authority. Yet reality itself can be even more grandeur than we could ever imagine.
@@nectariosgeorgiou Hey, I accept your belief here. Consciousness gives us that ability. True or false. Who are we? But my evolution argument stands. Why and where would a soul evolve? Show me evidence of an earlier developed soul within evolution. You can't. (Or the suggestion here is that it just magically appeared?) So the argument is this - I can't disprove the existence of a soul, and equally you can't prove the existence of one. So what do we do? Well we conclude with the following assumption. What is more likely? If we remove all the wishful thinking, what is the more plausible answer? A soul raises even more crazy questions that what its worth. Equally, so does the tooth fairy. Look, an afterlife would be awesome. I get that. Equally, winning the lottery would also be awesome. We can both dream though, right?
As someone who has had a full life; ie. I have achieved all the goals I’ve had and now have no others; BUT does now live a life of chronic pain (due to a non-operable medical condition) I look forward to non-being; such as I’ve experienced several times when being anesthetized. In those cases I’ve “gone to sleep” not knowing if I’d survive the surgery and wake up or not. Upon waking I had no knowledge of the passage of time and no knowledge of my personal being while asleep. I’ve lived as full a life as I can imagine and I’ve had children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren who I believe I’ve inspired and helped all I can. I believe I will be missed more than I will miss living. The thought of dying, or experiencing a suffering death, is more troublesome to me than of no longer being alive.
Yes, a few folk in this vid. seem to be projecting their own views. I personally can’t see the big deal over death. The very few I had been with who were close to death expressed wanting it over with. I suspect this is more common than those who cling to the last moment
Must be nice to feel you accomplished everything and are content with the life you had. I Can’t imagine what that feels like and I’m sure if I was in your shoes I would be content with death. Some think how your soul leaves this earth is how you life starts in your next life, kinda like a continuation of the previous life but without and clear memory of the life and lessons you learned in the past ones. Humans are vary self aware and this self awareness seems to cause allot of problems in life for people and yet animals for that most part are not self aware but I find it hard to believe they lack a soul. Some birds mate for life and even a pet bird will never be the same with a new owner, wouldn’t that type of behavior be worthy of a soul? So why are humans generally speaking so troubled and dysfunctional. It seems as though humans are being punished because when you compare us to any other organism they can’t possibly live so distressed in life. Even a bird stand on the railing of a ship freezing to death and just before the bird falls into the water frozen, never once was that bird thinking how cold I am and will I die here and now. Seems to me one would be more at peace if we didn’t worry about such things. I know I made few bird references but it was a theme that fit and many other species could be used as a substitute.
I’m 98, I’ve not accomplished any of the things I’ve wanted. Been horribly crippled since birth. Have no family left alive except descendants of cousins who couldn’t careless if I existed nor even know I do most likely. Yet I’d never willingly cease to exist. I’ve experienced the anesthesia during the numerous surgeries and never enjoyed it. I wasn’t unaware at all just observing the surgeries from above and listening. It’s verified by medical records and researchers doing investigations on near death. That being said, I envy your wanting to die. I don’t, I’d rather suffer for eternity as that’s nothing at this point. Not being would be the worst hell one could imagine.
@@wrackable you probably have endured more pain then I in life and though I’m less than half your age I have the same fear of death that it ends in nothing when we leave this life. It’s sad to hear you have no one that you feel cares for you and I’ve felt the same. 98 is a vary long time that most never reach. I recall one person up in your age saying when asked” what your secret to long life” his reply was “I drink whisky and smoke cigars every day”😁 do you have an insight as to How you lived such a long life? I think it has to do allot with genetics but I like to hear your side of it.
@@Skilled_Driver my secret is that I refuse to let things get me down for longer than necessary. I focus on being grateful for existing. The simple things like, clouds, plants, smells , a good book, music, a good video be it escapist in nature or educational. Food is good. Never much enjoyed coffee or alcohol nor smoking or drugs even prescription so I never consume them. Not so much a secret as a understanding of what I should avoid. I’m sorry to hear your suffering as well. I hope you can make peace with what you can and overcome that which can be overcome, learn to deal with what can’t. That you find joy amongst the darkness as light must always shine even in the darkest times. I appreciate your compassion towards my sense of unwanted and unloved existence. It’s truly ok, as I rather expect we are the true source of self, be it esteem,love or companionship. As we are all one behind these games we’re playing pretending we’re not one. Just my deepest thoughts on the truth of existence.
What Deepak says resonated with your true Self. You let the Truth enter your Being. That seed of truth will grow within you and you'll see the reality of this world sooner or later🙏
Of course we don't know that, that's just an assumption. For all you know, you could have been reincarnated or had some sense or pre-existence (both views are spoken about in Judaism).
we ddint exist before we were born, we die every night we are asleep and reboot each morning, and it will be same when we die - we will simply no longer be. But we wont know this at all. As it has been for everyone before us and will ever be for all those now and after us. Get used to it.Enjoy life while you have it - its all there is. And can we not just keep on pretending? All this is just vanity and special pleading.
Our personalities which we hold so dear are mortal and disappear when we die. But our core soul/subconscious goes on and continues to evolve but then only if you make enough correct decisions in this lifetime to see that it does. It has been stated by credible spiritual masters that even a lowly minimally spiritually competent person will take about 7 lifetimes to reach eternal singularity consciousness. While others will do so in a much shorter time and a very small number will do so in this lifetime which isn't likely their first anyway. If your intent is to progress and if you want your soul to go on you must at least reach a level of consciousness that your soul is ready, able and you desire for it to progress. If you do not go at least that far you are instead set on a course of dissolution. It is useful to think of your core being as a dual vortex energy field, a torus, much like any polar energy field like the magnetic field around the earth. Some will call it apple shaped and some will call it donut shaped but in effect it is like a cosmic disc drive of information that is you. Just as the smallest particle of matter is nothing but an organized energy field so is your sentient being soul self. When you continue to add energy to one of these self organized dual vortex energy fields they expand accordingly and get ever stronger and also are maintained at that higher level. If all of this sounds complicated and far, far out there it is. That is why religions stick to talking about noah's ark, angels and simple teaching stories that people can understand. The core of my message is that yes there is life after death but not for your petty personality. And yes an afterlife and continual spiritual advancement is worth pursuing. Don't ever be intimidted or overwhelmed by the task. Just think of baby steps and going forward. The journey of 1,000 miles begins with one step. When the student is ready the teacher will come.
@@yitzhakgoldberg2404 - Of course we don't know many things. That is not a reason to posit things at random. There needs to be a reason to suggest something in the first place, or it has no utility. You don't know that there isn't an invisible pink fluffy invisible unicorn standing next to you. There's no evidence to suggest that my pink unicorn exists to begin with, so my claim as no utility, ie to say that even if my claim was true, it offers no utility to spend time on the topic, since there is no evidence to suggest it possible to begin with. The claim about an afterlife is guilty of the same, that it has no utility.
I would like to formally and publicly thank Closer To Truth's guests and staff members for providing me with the opportunity to experience an existential crisis _yet again._
@@albundy9597 "That is your crisis nobody else's." Perhaps, but if you mean that when a person is troubled existentially, that it necessarily doesn't have an affect on others, then I disagree. How a person thinks can affect themselves, others and beyond. "You exist now why worry about when you don't exist, you won't be aware of it." Are you asking me a question?
If you view Life this way - the Gift of Life - I assume lucky enough to be born in a rich western country - you could be born in one of those islamic countries forced to live under Burkhas, abused by their inlaws & still think life is cruel Then you will have your wish - you will be born no more You will remain the UnBorn for eternity
@Billy Boffin It's debatable, If we accept that the purpose of life to exist is to only exist and there's nothing more. Then I suppose one will have to endure the temporally of one short life and make the most of it. That is still problematic because even the thought of accepting and make most of this life, you still desire for more in that happy life you blindly accepted. As of now, life is a scramble, a search for something. You want to sit on a chair, you expect comfort. You raise a child, you expect happiness. It would be meaningless to exist for nothing and if that's the case there's no need for emotion or even consciousness.
@Billy Boffin No one asked to be born. No one asked for life. It's not one's fault that hasn't even had the chance to decide whether to live or not. Especially considering that many people are born with very unfortunate circumstances, like poverty, birth defects/sickness. The problem is that people are overly selfish and will breed whether they can give the child a good life or not.
It absolutely is not the end! I know for a fact that when you die you ARE JUST AS AWARE as when you were alive. This realisation happened to me when I was trying to obtain an out of body experience while in a very deep meditation. I did not actually leave my body but instead was suddenly completely, clearly and overwhelmingly aware of this fact. As this realsation was taking place I tried to think of a way to put it into a context that I could keep and the best analogy I could think of was that as I lay there, even if someonecame into the room and chopped me up with an axe, it would make absolutely no difference at all to my awareness, my consciousness. This was nearly 30 years ago and it's been very reasssuring to have this knowledge. There is nothing in life to fear. x
Hi. Thank you for your comment. I have had an out of body experience many years ago, and I also have had a past life regression and between life regression in 2018...i have done many months of research on this top. I even started a UA-cam channel to teach others about what I have found out about the after body experience.
Laurence: Thank you for your contribution, I too felt comforted by my NDE and although I never believed in religion, this experience meant that I too had no reason to fear death. To me, death is a natural process of life and as far as I know, I wasn’t afraid to be born. Whatever you make of it all, I know that I am supposed to be here and I’m pretty much doing what I’m supposed to be doing. I have a great comfort about all this and it’s very reassuring. This knowledge frees you to get on with doing whatever you need to do. When it ends, it ends and I won’t regret it. I’ve been on borrowed time now since 1982, so I’ve had a pretty fair run at it. And my life has been interesting. Compared to some, I think I have had a wonderful life. I’ve travelled extensively and been able to do pretty much all the things I wanted. Can’t say better than that can you?
If a living person is telling you about death, you can be sure that they are either lying, misled, or confused. You will know when you know….if you are there to know.
This kind of logic makes no sense. Just because someone hasn’t actively experienced something that doesn’t mean that they cannot say, with validity, what will happen. For example, I haven’t personally shot myself in the head with a shotgun. But I can comfortably say that if you short yourself in the head with a shotgun, you will die.
I've experienced life after death, The sad thing about dieing is you see your leaving and people screaming your name you cant stop and they're gone and you cant get back than I came to this place where everyone was happy i made it I didnt and couldn't know what was goin on on this side till someone came up and said he's got to go back. I woke up to people giving me CPR. There is life after death You can believe that
And amazingly this "life" is one of joy & happiness forever and ever - "And they lived happily ever after" - wait, that's a children's fairy tale Billions of dead people will be sitting about/snoring away in this Giant Retirement Home in the sky? Our loved ones down on earth might be suffering/starving/being raped, abused - but we won't care anymore do we? All God wants to do is be a Nanny to billions of people and keep them in cozy comfort Ah the Grand Plan of God! Makes total sense
This topic, hell, this channel in general, represents the highest form of consciousness achievable. In other words, I mean to say that the contemplation of consciousness is the highest form of consciousness. The irony here is that, by contemplating the finality of death, one comes to add more meaning to life. It is amazing to see this spread out through our existence in a fractal manner. The great benefit of the Apollo program was not knowledge about the moon, it was the ways in which we enriched our society to get there. The summit of the mountain is not the great triumph, it is the overcoming of personal struggle on the way up. "Have we vanquished an enemy? None but ourselves.". Have we figured out if death is final? No, but we have given more meaning to life. I love this channel.
Hey Strelnikov... I like your worldview. Since coming down with cancer 14 years ago, I have been contemplating death more often. But somehow, instead of adding "more meaning to life," I seem to be subtracting. Is that a mathematical contradiction?
@@nickolasgaspar9660 I suppose we all are bound to see the world through our own lens. No skin off my teeth. But, and I think this is what makes this particular topic so fascinating, you have no evidence with which you can refute their claims.... and one never will.
@@goldo1107 this is what he said......."This man is searching for what he wants to hear and not what could possibly be the truth." What makes sense to him is what he wants to be true.
What he is saying is that he doesn’t like what he hears, and he is listening to many theories to see if there is one that is more to his liking. He is presenting alternate theories at face value for all to evaluate. He is not picking a theory he likes, and then pushing that theory exclusively while disregarding others. He’s only stating what he would like to be true personally.
@@buddyrichable1 begging the question fallacies on zero indications or evidence are not "theories" but wishful thoughts. He is guilty of pseudo philosophy
It doesn't sound like Robert wants to get "closer to truth", rather he wants a version of truth that appeals to him - even though he would eventually get bored with it and move on to the next thing. A road that eventually would take him to the destination that he refused all along but in small doses he could handle.
@@bragginrites8586 truth is an evaluation term. We humans use it to evaluate our the claims about reality, the world. A claim is true when it is objectively in agreement with current available facts.(preferably through scientific means). Since there aren't any objective and sufficient facts to indicate or justify this questions we are dealing with a"begging the question " fallacy. That doesn't mean that Robert's quest or people beliefs in afterdeath are not true or wrong. That unfortunately means that those beliefs are irrational and that is far worse for a society.
I’m very glad to have discovered this series, Mr. Kuhn. The films are beautifully made, your narrative is splendidly written, the questions you pose and the topics you discuss and the great brilliant guests you somehow get to appear in the videos, are precisely those I’m fascinated by (unless you don’t cover extraterrestrial life, and I don’t yet know that you do). Thank you. Much appreciated. Keep up the excellent work.
The luxuries afforded by way of opion is weilded buy a sword of the broadest of proportion..hardest fact remains that we who currently inhabit the present cycle of "life"..."consiousness"..hell we can call it a "Lgbtqgdui" sandwich if we select...my point is dat we can only speak speak from the perpespective of the living...any idea about the experience of death really shouldnt be wasted argumentivly...siscussing death..really...hard one to discuss from experince...die as we live... Or live as we die... We are all correct in our theories..simply could be loojed upon as bieng a :Different/1ne
@@Dalabombana life is not part of death. Death is part of life. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. The meaning of your life is to give your life meaning.
I believe we are constantly reborn and consciousness continues. I don’t believe we will have any awareness of this continuation of consciousness but I believe we retain some of what we learned and experienced in our previous incarnation. Just my personal belief.
Wayne Drake How are you aware of previous incarnations? I’m curious. Were you human? Did you exist on Earth 🌎? In the Milky Way Galaxy? Within the Virgo Super Cluster? Somewhere else?
@@matthew944 I'm aware of a number of my past earth lives. The Akashic Records confirmed them, there are others that also know of some of their past lives as well. The bible calls the Records, the Book of Life. You can be taught to read your Records. I also know that I'm not from this star system. Home is Orion's Belt. All Wisdom is within the Akashic Records. Seek and ye shall find.
Wayne Drake Did you live in the Orion constellation pre or post supernova? Is the Akashic Record like “the cloud” that stores digital information here on Earth?
When the death come around that where the realty starts we start to see the proves that we waited all our life for it that's worry me so much how do I know will i didn't know anything before i get here.
@Jordan Kane In most cases a persons life is pointless, yes. It all comes down to what you leave behind. For instance Galileo, Einstein, Mozart, Da Vinci made a huge legacy for the whole humanity, others have made smaller but not unimportant legacies that will affect fewer people, but none the less maybe even change peoples lives. What you leave behind are often called your "unearthly children" and most of us don't leave that many of those behind, because it takes creativity, originality and courage to make one that's importan enough to last. Of course, you can always hope that your offspring gets an important legacy at some point 30 generations from now. So if in doubt of your own legacy so far, start to create, be original and have the guts to put it out there. Otherwise - shag a lot. 😄
Test4Echos exactly no one ever leaves something behind since even if humans are still here after 100000 years its still nothing the universe is so old and big we are nothing. What we do means nothing so enjoy your time.
We yearn for an afterlife because we’re smart enough to contemplate death and nothingness. Death and nothingness is anxiety inducing and the notion of an afterlife soothes that anxiety.
I think the key is to remember that we are viewing death from a physiologically human standpoint (i.e. what will our brain think when we're dead? will we be alone and isolated in a desolate space?). But, none of these sensations or emotions will exist if we are no longer operating as human beings.
"This dude wants reality to behave according to his mental construct". He already has presumed an answer and looks for people, who would ascribe to his presumptions.
This documentary is special to me, I will always remember driving my truck wayyy out somewhere in the wilderness of Oregon, listening to this, in deep contemplation of what this really is. Where IS beyond here?What is life? What is death? And what is the meaning of it all?
If one identifies the ego or the body as life, then death of this life is final. If one removes his ignorance and become aware that he and everything around is inseparable, then he transcends death because there can be only life.
I enjoy(ed) the delightful rapport between Robert and Deepak. The entire episode is encapsulated in Chopra's laughter at Kuhn's resistance and attachment to identity. I watched their conversation three times.
Actually, Mr. Kuhn has a delightful rapport with all of those from whom he seeks enlightenment. His genuinely perplexed resistance is extremely relatable.
@@woodlakesound by our current measurement devices that is. Imagine how many things we can measure today that were in the sphere of magic two centuries ago
My take: Death is not something that we experience first hand, therefore it doesn't exist. We were dead before we were conscious. Since we do not experience death, even if it took ten trillion ^10 eons, the universe collapsing and reforming countless times, whatever it is that's "me" would exist again and those countless eons would pass through the blink of an eye. Something experiences consciousness, whatever it is becomes "me". Now that doesn't satisfy the continuation requirement but if it's nothingness or emptiness that people fear they shouldn't worry because that experience can not exist.
@@FLAC2023 this temporary but immortal window. surely you know what he means. your window will be extinguished. we are all windows and each window has an assigned number. in your town that is your house nobody else has that door number. that number means that this is YOUR house and only your house. you're not confused as to where your home should be located. it's neat and orderly. i am not "windowing" through your brain on occasions I am always here. you are unique because of the 13 billion year history of the universe. this is what it takes to make your very unique window to the universe. for this to be reproduced the exact same chain of events need to happen again. that pattern builds your window. cloning doesn't make another you it just acts like you but it isn't you. for YOU, your window, to exist again the entire 13 billion year history of universe has to repeat.
Yes you're describing a boltzmann brain and a thought experiment known as quantum immortality or the quantum suicide thought experiment. And I think it's something to worry about. The concern is that I will be stuck as a Boltzmann brain existing for brief intervals of time long after the heat death of the universe punctuated by very long periods of time between, which I will not be conscious of, before quantum fluctuations eventually resurrect me again, only to die once again in the vacuum of space, as the vast majority of boltzmann brains will be minimalistic and form with a minimum of environments, i.e. they will just be brains in nowhere space. To be resurrected over, and over, and over and over again. That sounds like a truer depiction of hell than anything ever come up with by any religion.
@@FLAC2023 Its not that crazy. You need consciousness to experience ‘things’. If you are unconscious you literally can’t. Have you ever been anaesthetised for an operation? When you come to, it feels like no time has elapsed at all. You need consciousness to experience everything, including time. (No need to be rude to people exchanging differing complex ideas, it’s fascinating discussion.)
We don’t long for after life, we long for the continuation of life.. as a species we are conscious of our existence, and we want to continue our lives.
Nice point,we have the basic feeling to long for the continuation of life because we are designed by the CREATOR for that(Eccles. 3:11).We grow old and die because our original father Adam rejected his CREATOR and we inherited sin and imperfection(Romans 5:12,14).But the CREATOR is rescuing us by giving a ransom sacrifice for sins we inherited (Matthew 20:28)so that many who believe will not be destroyed by death but will be given everlasting life on earth(John 3:16,Psalms 37:29).
williamrose :Just to make it clear,it’s everlasting life on earth with perfect health,without sickness and death(Rev. 21:4,Isaiah 33:24,Job 33:25). A paradise earth inhabited by godly,meek and peaceful people trained by the Creator Jehovah(Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:9).
Ronald Bercilla “trained by creator?” That’s definition of animal being tamed. Well I suppose we are animal in a zoo on a small rock looking up waiting to be pet by a golden hands from above. “Good boy!”
To say there is or isnt life after death is speculation. All we can say is based off our current best understanding of neuroscience, it seems more likely that death is the end.
@@musicbro8225 "Words are not things, just handles for concepts". I believe that to be a true sentence. "You should complain to the etymologists for their incompleteness". What would prompt me to complain?
@@REDPUMPERNICKEL Oh I see, you were saying that when we die we don't life anymore, got you. I just assumed you to be a pedant, my bad. Not the strongest argument then ;)
As a child i was pushed into church, years later Im gladly attending on my own accord, thankfully my parents realised God's presence in one's life is crucial ,I thank the Lord for their mindset praise the Lord hallelujah!
I have seen my brother's soul after his death, l believed science till then. There's soul, and there is God... It's a metaphysical existence of our Consciousness. Beyond Time and Space...
When my dad first passed i was lost as to if he was ok , I walked around for 3 days feeling that way and the day of his wake while the preacher was talking I got this overwelming felling of warmth kind of tunnel visioned or zoned out for a few seconds and new my dad was ok don't want to call it a religious experience but I knew he was ok. Can't say that there is an afterlife but I knew he was alright.
“To consider that after the death of the body the spirit perishes is like imagining that a bird in a cage will be destroyed if the cage is broken, though the bird has nothing to fear from the destruction of the cage. Our body is like the cage, and the spirit is like the bird. We see that without the cage this bird flies in the world of sleep; therefore, if the cage becomes broken, the bird will continue and exist. Its feelings will be even more powerful, its perceptions greater, and its happiness increased.” ‘Abdu’l-Bahá
My dad took his life when I was 19 some time before that terrib,e day he said to me when I'm gone don't cry at my grave I won't be there . He had a strong belief in nature and studied the night sky as if he had the road mapped out
@@peterrauth118 asserted, no, but it is implied by only representing one side of the conditional. Without a reason to go with one side or the other, the quote holds little content.
Death is final. Life is here and now. Engage your intellect and your connection to others, now. It is fleeting and gone too soon, by any standard. Then, that's it. Memory does persist and that is where you will reside.
You have obviously done no studying on the afterlife none at all How the hell do you know??? Open a book read study the evidence for and after life is overwhelming why are you here
"I don't want to disappear". That pretty much sums up how we all feel. All this talk about merging into some grandiose cosmic consciousness but losing our own consciousness and feeling of self awareness doesn't seem to be the answer we are looking for. If you lose your consciousness after death than you cease to exist. End of story.
Eric the problem here is that the NDE scientific literature we have so far points to us not losing our consciousness and who we are after death . The 2 prospective NDE studies of dr Pim Van lomme and dr Sam Parnia in fact show yeh opposite , that we don’t lose who we are after death
The problem is most people these days still think of death as a point in time but as dr Parnia says it is now thought of as a process and they are in fact bringing people back from the dead when they experience cardiac arrest and are resuscitated . Science is starting to get close to solving this question then ever before and most sceptics don’t like where the evidence is leaning towards .
@@angelbrother1238 No one has really experienced death and returned to tell about his experience. My pathology professor once said that no one had ever come back to life after rigor mortis had set in. He didn't equate a NDE with actual death. But i will be open minded and look into the studies of van lomme and parnia. Sounds interesting.
@@ericburdon6148 Eric the problem is your pathology professor is stuck in the ok’d way of thinking . Mainstream medical science now says we are in fact dead within 30-40 seconds of cardiac arrest . Your pathology professor is not keeping up with where science is going with this . In fact this is what happens 30-40 seconds after cardiac arrest www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-future-brain/201810/how-the-brain-can-remain-active-even-when-the-heart-stops?amp Following cardiac arrest, irreversible human brain damage occurs within an estimated 10 minutes due to the lack of oxygen [4]. Within 20-40 seconds of oxygen deprivation, the brain becomes electrically inactive, and interneuronal activity stops. The patient is in fact dead . There is no measurable electrical activity and the neo visual neurons can’t even communicate with each other . This is called clinical death . If the brain = consciousness there should be no conscious awareness at this point but what we are starting to see is that there is conscious awareness at this point as dr Parnia and dr lommel have said . Dr Parnia is the top NDE researchers in the world and is one of the top resuscitation specialists in the world and is an agnostic with no religious beliefs . Dr Parnia used to speak at atheist science conferences when he was an NDE sceptic but when he changed his stance from his own scientific research he is suddenly not invited to these atheist science conferences anymore Geeee I won’t why . Say it with me folks , the religion of atheism strikes again Dr Pim Van lommel was even worse as he was both an atheist and a materialist before his lancet study but is now a spiritualist . Your pathologist professor is confusing clinical death with biological death . In biological death the persons brain cells have become so damaged that it’s impossible for modern medicine to bring them back from the dead . On clinical death it is possible to bring them back from the dead And in fact dr Parnia is lobbying the medical community to change the name of ndes during cardiac arrest from near death experience or ndes to ades or actual death experiences . Your pathology professor must be stuck in the 1960’s my friend
Fascinating discussions. It is amazing how much convergence of thought there is between the contributors. The concept of our consciousness expanding beyond the physical brain becomes more compelling. Modern physics shows us the existence of extra dimensions that we can not conceive, yet must exist for the math to work. I would expect consciousness to exist in these additional dimensions, and our brain to be a portal or interface to our 4 dimensional experience of life. What we do know is that the Universe is more complex and mysterious than we can imagine.
Many of pioneers of psychedelics believed our brain to act as a filter with the pineal gland being an antenna, used to tune and dial our minds into the correct dimension. When taking mushrooms or LSD that filter is dissolved or opened allowing for more information to come into our brains. Inturn allowing our pineal gland to tune it's dial to the frequency of different dimensions.
Well said Simon, there is much to learn before we get close to understanding what it’s all about - if ever. The more you ponder this situation the more you realise that we are almost microbial in our ignorance. That brings into sharp relief the arrogance of those who believe they are clever and know it all. I still think our purpose here is to learn who and what we are, what we are capable of understanding and achieving. Instead, it seems we are infatuated with.inventing new ways to exterminate our neighbours. We need to stop this mindless pursuit into paranoia and fear. When you travel the world more you begin to see that almost everyone on earth will help a traveler. They restore your faith in humanity and it seems principally that Governments and the military are to blame for this madness. They line their pockets at our expense and then sit around brooding about being exposed. We need to realise that we are all just citizens of Earth, but that would mean the ones currently enjoying rich countries may have to share the wealth with others. As if it were ever theirs to begin with. Patriotism is a device instilled in people to keep others poor. We will destroy the Earth that nurtures us before we realise what we have done. Or perhaps Mother Nature will humble us before we can do that. Humanity is already on the brink of peril and if we don’t change our ways, then we will suffer the consequences and will either become extinct or reduced to primordial ooze and given another chance at it. Humans can be so brilliant, but we can be equally stupid. I’ve said many times that everything in the universe come with an opposite, so why should this surprise us. The most difficult lessons for us seems to be moderation and consultation. The vast majority don’t want war and destruction. We want to live in peace and get on with each other.
@@gamingbeast6629 Hmmm, that was a bit cryptic. Are you trying to say that its impossible to cope with death or something else ? I’d be interested to know.
Baz, I'm not trying to be controversial or disagree, but I think this is the real paradox of death. If someone else dies, even everyone else, you will still be existing, so you can look around and see that the universe is still there. When you die, however, it would mean nothing to say that the universe still exists because there is no one to give the report. The universe has ended and so nothing happens after YOU die. It's quite confusing since you see other people die every day, so it's natural to assume that you will just be another statistic, but going from existing to non-existing is a metaphysical act which can have no other consequence.
Steve C Things still exist even if no one is there to see it... My coffee cup is sat on my table now... If every living thing disappeared, the coffee cup is still standing on the table.
My mother heard me what I said looking at her photo. "I wish you could hear me and see me..." I put back the picture in the envelope and then spent my as usual, nothing special until that evening. A relative called and asked me to come over, but I declined because I was settled for the night. Then suddenly, I was forced by something to agree to visit. As a mad person, I grabbed keys and ran to my car. I was in the rush hour traffic. "What am I doing?" I asked. Drove 11-12 miles to get there. As soon as I sat on a couch, the person brought me something. I looked at it. They were all three of them I had recieved more than 10 yrs ago when i returned to work after my mother's funeral! The circumstances of those cards returned to me on that exact day, was a proof of other life. I had never thought about those cards for more than 9 yrs. My mother can hear me and see me.
stay hopeful, amazing grace, John 3 repent of sin and be born again, means we will meet again in heaven instead of weeping 4eva in regret. Daniel 12:2 in the Jewish Scriptures and Isaiah chapter 53
Funny how the most finite thing which is concciousness we take as eternal and what is truly eternal which is matter we consider as finite. But the body remains forever. We see bodies of the dead after their consciousness is long gone. And when a body disappears, it simply means the matter from which it was made adopted another finite form without ever disappearing as matter.
Robert Kuhn: “But I have a sense of my own personal consciousness, my own personal awareness, and I _like_ that! Are you going to take that away from me in some cosmic consciousness after death, or recycle me? Cuz I don’t remember any other cycles, and so those other cycles that I were do _me_ no good.” And yet, your present life is no less precious for feeling like it’s the first and only life, the first and only “you.” When you are deeply (dreamlessly) asleep, there is no “personal awareness” there, and also no problem with its absence. Whenever the absence of “you” has been a reality (in deep sleep, general anesthesia, or before your birth), there’s been no problem. The problem is created by how this “you” is thinking about it all.
@Veritas Est Lux if more people had a "deep understanding" then we would be dealing with more irrational people being gullible to subjective indemonstrable stories.
During life you learn to give up things, dreams, people, your childhood toys, gone, forgotten, your first love gone, your first dog gone, your job gone, your original idea of self gone, your parents gone, your marriage gone, your house gone, your health gone, your young body gone. And you are not getting used to it, tired maybe, and closer to giving up the hope that things can last. The grand final act, your ego, awareness of self to go?
Basically humans are delusional because of our strong sense of being self aware. It seems every organism besides humans lives with this earth as part of it unlike humans that push and repel nature. Maybe being self aware is humanity’s greatest flaw. Seems if we were not, that favorite designer bag wouldn’t be important or that sports car you want to buy in your mid life crises or even the idea of marriage would never be a thought I your mind and we would have no need for politicians that’s for sure. Just think of the possibility’s of Peace humanity would have if self aware wasn’t there.
if "you" want to live forever... accept that it's impossible to experience anything if you are dead (forget Heaven for a minute) accept that being dead for 10 minutes would "feel" exactly like being dead for 10 million years (both would "feel" instantaneous) accept that as long as "you" are alive "you" are trapped inside "your" body accept that you have no idea how "you" ended up in "your" body in the first place accept there is no reason why wouldn't you just do the same thing over again but just in a different body the feeling of being alive would be indistinguishable from one life to the next...all "you" would know is that "you" were not dead. think of it less as living forever and more as it's impossible to experience being dead EXAMPLE: you die as an old man or woman, and your next conscious moment is as a toddler in another body and of course no memory of your prior life or who you were, all you know is you are not dead. EVER. In this model we are STUCK being alive one way or another for the rest of eternity. It's like reincarnation but you don't remember who you were from life to life. It would also mean there actually is an afterlife, in your next body. It would also mean that sometimes you might not end up in a happy life, but sometimes you could be rich. I suspect you wouldn't be locally restricted so it seems you could easily end up living in some other part of the universe.
Hey Rg media, idk your real name but if your phone notification is on then plz listen me and reply me ......................................................... If this is true that we born again and again , and life carry on ; life never end. then this is a sad moment for me, i am 67 yr old man dont want to live after this life. becuz i live this and feel my life. i am deep thinker and glad on this. i live every execpt of my life. and now i am tired. i am really happy and satisfied with this life and now i want to feel the '0' i want to be destroyed my identity and become the zero. i really want that there should be nothing after this life. if this body dies than this old man also dies. i get knowledge and experience from this life and want to give it back to you and all my beautiful world. beautiful earth :')
@@todayismyday9782 well, each instance of life, under this thought, would be quite different from each other, and in your current life you won't remember anything of "your" prior life. you said "i am a 67 yr old man don't want to life after this life." ok, but take in to account that, before you were born, nobody/no being asked you if you wanted to be born in the first place. so in a way you have to be born/exist at least once just to just be able to have a feeling of choice in the first place. so in my opinion, having no choice of were we come from and go is baked right in anyway. Alas, yes, no control over where we go or come from but much more control over where we currently are. So it appears there is an incentive to leave the world/universe in a better place than when we arrived. It seems the motto would be "there is no time like the present". feel free to email me at friendsthenextgeneration6@gmail.com if you need to.
@@lordoftheflings great link and thank you, AW hit the nail on the head and I am convinced what he described there is our best understanding to date of what we can expect to "experience" after we pass. I came to this realization on my own a few years ago and said to myself "there is no way I am the only person to have thought of this" and to my great relief I began to find hints here and there online that suggested a lot of people had thought of this already. I still don't know if there is a proper name to call what AW described in that video you sent. Is there a proper name for it?
But if you have no memory in the next life what would be the point? Same thing as there being no life after death, the experience as far I would be aware as death being final.
“To consider that after the death of the body the spirit perishes is like imagining that a bird in a cage will be destroyed if the cage is broken, though the bird has nothing to fear from the destruction of the cage. Our body is like the cage, and the spirit is like the bird. We see that without the cage this bird flies in the world of sleep; therefore, if the cage becomes broken, the bird will continue and exist. Its feelings will be even more powerful, its perceptions greater, and its happiness increased.” ‘Abdu’l-Bahá
Hebrews 9:27-28 KJV And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Oh,..... no sir, .......ee DO KNOW! Just as you can know which way the wind is blowing by licking your little finger, so can you also know just exactly whats coming when it comes to the end of our lives. The bibles clear and its right on time. Believe it or not. Thats on you. May the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth bless your mortal soul.
I agree with deepak. I love when he says "expand your awareness" or consciousness. We feed our physical body with material food. We must NOW feed our consciousness with non physical healthy food. We worry too much about memory. Why not focus on now and future, and just let past memories run its course. I am not disregarding memory. It plays a critical role. It guides our way. It's automatic though. It just comes by itself when it's needed. Why? Because it's one of consciousness' faculties.
And what if (I don't say it is), all expanded awareness is nothing else but nice Confabulation ? On the other side, what if everything (even the consciousness) is copy of non material world (world of ideas) ?
What Depaak Chopra says is just horse manure in which I would like to stick his nose in It so that hdd et could realize th we meaningless of what he says.
@@dou40006 you have all the freedom to do that to him. Just mind the consequences. We only tell and share what we believe and know is true. We don't convince anyone. Thank you.
The interviewee said,, quite casually that " perhaps this life on earth are a small part of our total existence." This would imply there is an ending, no matter how long that is. If there is no ending, if time is infinite, then our life on earth can not be called a small part, but an infinitesimal part, not even quantifiable.
@@nikokapanen82 lol......every dude met the god of his religion. They can not all be true...so having a malfunctioning brain making up stories based on the indoctrinated culture it was in...is more likely.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 Abraham did met with God, Moses did met with God and this God did claimed to be the Creator of all, the Alpha and the Omega. No hindu or buddhist has ever met with the Alpha and the Omega. Muhammad of Islam only met with a spirit who violently attacked him to the point that Muhammad thought it was a demon. So no, not every person of their religion met with God. Only Biblical people did. Other people meet with spirits and fallen angels.
I once overheard a conversation between two ordinary people. The first one asked, "do you believe in life after death?" The second person replied, "Well. I got THIS life."
This is why Islam’s understanding and interpretation of existence and the afterlife is so powerful. You don’t lose yourself when you die, in fact God tells us when all our deeds are brought before us we remember everything that happened in our life. This is consciousness and awareness of each individual human that ever existed and it’s the key to our creation and existence on this universe.
I swear I died once...... Easiest way to describe it is like this : Imagine you wake up on one morning ready to go to work, as soon as you wake up you realize its Sunday! no work! you close your eyes, lie down and get comfortable. In this moment 1. you don't need to get up 2. you are super comfy and are ready for sleep 3. your content as fuck knowing you can just lie there all comfortable. Based on my experience this state is how I feel death is, your so comfortable, at ease and no need to think anything. When I swear I died it was just like this, it was so comfortable, just like waking up and realizing you don't need to go to work, it felt like I was me the whole time, but I didn't acknowledge it, it felt like I could acknowledge myself as being me anytime I wanted, I was just too comfortable to be bothered to! Just like when you go back to bed, that feeling of comfort is something that is persistent in death, as if I could stay like this forever and never get bored of it. Then suddenly, I decided to acknowledge myself and wanted to come back, there was a jolt of lightning and then I CREATED A NEW UNIVERSE TO LIVE IN......
I find it kind of humorous the interaction between Chopra and Kuhn. Kuhn is obviously a successful happy guy who has enjoyed his life and does not want it to end. Good for him, we should all be so lucky. But with that comes a price for a well considered man like him -- the fear of it all going away some day. Chopra is saying this incarnation of good fortune is a small sense of the greater reality that is, but since it's not in the packaged form of a life well lived on this planet, Kuhn is none too happy about letting that go. It reminds me of Christian verses -- the parable of it being harder for a rich man to enter heaven than a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, that he who loves his life will lose it and he who hates his life will gain it, and so on. There's resonance there... the "letting go of what is" in order to accept "what will be".
Go with the flow, it’s not like you can do anything about it, so accept. It is what It is, and wether we understand it or not, we are part of it. We are on this journey. I plan to keep my mind open and enjoy it.
The thought of death consumed me all my life even as a child. I would think about my family members dying and burst into tears at the mere thought. I once went to the Er with a migraine, the nurse gave me a shot of a pain med, as I got up to go to the restroom bc I felt alil nauseous, I could feel I was going to faint and a nurse heard me say I feel faint , I woke on a bed that had been pulled out front by the nurses station having no memory of how I got there, no memory of my blouse being cut completely away from my body, no memory of the pads placed all over my chest with wires..they say I had bottom out, I had no pulse. As they worked on me I could faintly. hear the nurses speaking to me..
This is what scares me the most about death, you basically don't even know that you are dead, you feel nothing just like before you were born,it's like your whole existance stops, but I will keep an open mind to the ndes
@Eddie Murray lol, I forgot to add that after that happened I suddenly no longer feared death at all, I don’t even think about it ever..haha I can’t believe I left that part out! Perfect response, thanks for that.
Death may seem final 😐but it does not make since Beacuse if it was then earth would not have ever formed in the first place 😑earth is like a slot machine 😐not dice 😑saying that earth somehow formed in the first place is very impressive 🙂earth would be like someone willing the grand prize 🙂and after you win you won’t get the grand prize a 2ed time 😐or your next roll like a slot Machine most of the time you will lose 😑witch is why it takes eons for a planet like earth to happen 😐earth is like winning the grand prize that does not mean you will never get it again that only means that it takes eons 😑just like you winning the grand prize you won’t get all the time but in time you will get it again 🙂
@@waynesulak1488 because their is no life after death 😑it all has to do with the brain it’s self 😑what do you remember before you were born?😐that’s right nothing and when you die what do you become nothing…again 😑 consciousness was NOT created from the so called Big Bang it was created at birth 😐you think time is a real thing but time is just a means illusion 😑created my man kind you think everything happend just like that the Big Bang happend 14 billion years ago 😐but truth Is that’s were your lacking 😑 you were all ready dead for who knows how dam long 😑and you would have no idea that this planet would ever form unless you lived on it 😑so what is the nauture of self ?😐why do we see the world from first person view?😐if you can’t remember your past life what makes you think your going to remember this one 😐? The nature of self and why we see the world from first person view well when you die or become nothing…again 😑you will just end up as if you were not ever born to,begin with 😑you were nothing you dream your alive you dream and become nothing again 😑however long it took for this planet to form in the first place is how long we will be dead…again 😑rather the universe is infinite or not 😑and in a infinite universe their is no beginning or end and even if the universe is finite you still need a cause and effect 😐and to understand the universes future you have to understand it’s past 😑
They say death is final bro please sure we may be dead on this planet 😐but matter can be created and destroyed what ever is created can be destroyed and what is destroyed can also be created 😑 and besides all of us were dead all ready for who knows how dam long 😑you think we had a choice ? 😐after all consciousness was NOT created from the Big Bang 😑it was created at birth 😑before that you were nothing you dream your alive you dream and become nothing again 😐you don’t realize it on how long you have Ben dead all ready until your die again 😑and if you can’t remember your past life what makes you think your going to remember this one 😐?
I recently had a medical emergency where the medical staff had administered general anesthesia that rendered me sedated and unconscious for an invasive diagnostic procedure. My consciousness completely shut down (no awareness, sensation, thoughts or dreams-just total void and peace), when the doctor woke me up, I felt that was the best deep “sleep”-so peaceful and restful-I’ve ever experienced. I thought if death means that experience-I’d be totally at peace with it. Life is too short in this imperfect existence to be worrying about life after death, an eternal “heaven or hell” fate. I think we live our lives as best as we can be in our roles in life, using our talents and sharing/being good stewards of this earth, being helpful and compassionate to others, leaving a legacy of love, decency and kindness-that’s all I can really do in this life. I have no control beyond this life.
If my interpretation of your comment is correct, you are narrow-minded, ill-informed, presumptuous and dare I say ignorant. I died twice in one day and if you'd like a taste, go find a doctor to run a clinical ketamine session on yourself. Grace and peace...Checkmate.
@@arj282 If you died twice in one day and are still here, you've done one better than Jesus. Congrats! Who am I to argue with such impressive credentials?
The principle is circular concept and not linear like nature.. It repeats and repeats.. Life death and life again is the transformation of energy from from one form to other..
You don´t "know" that there is life after death. You hope there is. There is no life after death. The idea is absurd. There is no free will, there is no Heaven (or Hell), there is no purpose to life. What purpose could there possibly be? There might be a Creator - something that consciously brought the Uni into existence. Not God. Does Deepak actually believe as fervently as he claims? Of course not. For him and thousands of others it´s a sort of a game.
@@roberthutchins4297 yes u r right there are some psychological phenomena like deja vu which are only a manifestation of our previous experiences and this is also one of them. We are just animals whose brains have developed little bit to socially interact and civilize , THAT'S ALL the human brains is just made up of cells which will die eventually and there is nothing like soul because it's illogical. When our cells will stop working we will die and mix up in the nature, that's all. There is nothing like life after death
New sub here, after watching this. I didn't want this to end! I loved how you asked all the good and hard questions and stood your ground with it. Saw through all of these common, Cryptic vague answers. It's so frustrating, I want ONE true answer. ONE. Not several dependant on who you ask answers but one. It seems that's impossible and we won't know until we die. But then will We? Will my actual personal awareness get the answer? Or will I cease to exist? I'm like you, I want that soul transformation and growth of experiences and wisdom and connect to the universe as a whole. But I also want me, Sheena my personal awareness to KNOW about it, and experience it. And to remember my loved ones and pets. It's confusing. But I can't help but long for the answers. Having lived/living through a REAL life haunting it's even made me MORE curious. There has to be something after! I'd love a part 2 or 3 or 20 of this segment, it was great.
The last interviewee Eric Steinhart touched on how death seems final, but also talked about persistence of consciousness through a resurrection as described in the Old Testament and what the early Christians believed in. If God created man from the dust then at death, would return to the same state. Our consciousness begins when at some point of the growth of the embryo the brain begins to function. At death, once the brain dies the consciousness ends and begins the decay, returning to a state of non existence. The nine resurrection accounts in the Bible shows that the consciousness can only be experienced again when God restored the human body to live again also restoring the memory person had before death which is like making an image of the memory and then restoring it in the remade brain based on the person’s DNA. All the Jews and early Christians believed in the future resurrection of the dead from the memorial tombs to be brought back to live on THIS earth cleansed of evil, transformed into a beautiful Paradise with the opportunity to live forever so you can be YOU for eternity. We only need to examine to see if resurrection really took place and test the truthfulness of the Bible. Welcome any comments or questions.
Sheena Alexis87 Children. Seriously though - these are the cells in your body alive right now, that can outlive your experience. In a way, while individuals have ceases to exist, life itself has survived on this planet for 3+ billion years, continuously. But, if you want your actual individual self, there IS a theoretically possible (but unlikely so far) answer - where you could remember your loved ones and pets. It’s cryogenics. Very unlikely to be reversible now, but that’s the only current way to preserve the physical body and brain indefinitely. Who knows what technology would be like in 20,000 years - if only preservation wasn’t disrupted for that long.
Say what you will about Chopra's intellectual credibility, but I actually find that in this video he gave the most practical advice regarding death anxiety that anybody has throughout this series. In fact, despite Robert writing him off as a mystic, I might even go so far as to say that Chopra's position is the logical conclusion of physicalist theories of consciousness. Given the likelihood that humans don't have souls, our conception of a continuous self is probably some kind of illusion. Our fear of death primarily stems from this misconception about a continuous sense of self. When you rid yourself of the illusion, there isn't anything in particular that you're losing when you die. Death framed as the transition from personal consciousness to universal concsciousness doesn't seem all that different in phenomenal content from death in the materialist worldview-with the difference in terminology being primarily the result of aesthetics as opposed to ontology. Out current scientific paradigm would lead us to believe that consciousness isn't a special substance, it is merely emergent from ordinary matter. Under this view, I fail to see how practicing rituals that rid us of the illusion of self and make us feel "one with the universe" is mystical; in a sense it's almost scientific. Just my thoughts, either way very interesting and thought provoking video.
Interesting 🙂but I still wonder if consciousness was really an illusion then how come we were all born in different parts of the earths history?😐like ware were we before?the day of our birth?🤔were we in some kind of void ?🤔
One could put it thus: one does not 'have' life so one cannot 'lose' one's life. The individual ego consciousness is no more a part of life than a ripple on a pond or a wave in the sea. Thinking that everything ends when one's individual ego consciousness ends is like thinking a live broadcast ends when one turns the radio off.
@@Londonfogey death is final…..in this world that’s why death is a way to walk alone 😑however…doing dead just means to be sleeping and then to be nothing and that’s something all of us have all ready expirence before we were born 😐it does not matter if the universe is finite or not beasue the chances of life forming on a planet are 1 and 1 is higher then 0% and if you really wanted to be dead forever you would not ever be born to begin with 😑after all their is no telling how long you were dead or in this case nothing before you came into this world to begin with 😑 we don’t know if the universe as a whole is infinite or not but I think it’s infinite 😐not because I want it to but because that could be our Ture Reality 😐after all a true death does NOT mean it no longer exists😑 a true death means their is a 100% guarantee of something not ever forming again because ironically why did it need to form at all ?😑a true death means their is a 100% guarantee it it well never be created in the first place 😑0* infinity=0 but if a planet somehow can make DNA that 0 becomes 1 and 1 * infinity= infinity witch means well first of their are NOT infinite earths so the whole multiple universes no their is only just this one 😑you otherwise in a infinite multiple universes the chances of life are infinite and when you die you will just be reborn the next 😑not how it goes their is only 1 planet that can made carbon life possible and if the universe is infinite it means this planet will be created and destroyed a infinite number or times 😐but for this planet to be created again however long you were dead or in this case nothing/in a endless sleep before you were born is how long you will be until that day you are reborn again 😑you were nothing before you were born …you become nothing when you die 😑and don’t think that since this plant can or will happen again does NOT mean you will have a better life 😑it means you will and can repeat it ……forever winners will always be winners and losers will always be losers 😑after all you could have Ben born any point of this planets history 😐after all the sperm a male had seems most likely for your dna to be random…..but it’s not 😑so even this plant can be created again it mean you will or are repeat your life’s and you won’t ever know about it 😑after all if you can’t remember your past life what makes you think your going to remember this one ?😑the determinism part is their Is only 1 theory to the universe and their is nothing we can do about it 😑their may be aone bacteria or other microbes on other worlds but NOTHING like earth and our fate is intertwine with this planet 😑it was created before we even noised it and 2 it will be destroyed and we won’t ever noticed 😑death is nothing more but a endless sleep and like all matter in the universe matter CAN be created and destroyed your dna is made of matter and in time the moon will be drifted so far away nothing can stop the the oceans from rising eventually this planet will be 99-100% a full blue planet and as the sun starts to use helium instead of hydrogen it will expand boiling our oceans and destroyd the ozone layer so if the environment won’t destroy your dna the sun will and you won’t ever know it Beacuse you would be like as if someone had a seizure you won’t feel pain your sences will eventually be turned off like a light switch 😑you will die physically but dying in general just means to be asleep and as you sleep things would happen so fast but in Reality you have Ben dead for hrs 😑that’s the illusion of life I have realized life is nothing but an illusion but not the illusion you think 😐since this planet has a higher then 0% chance of being created you have a higher then 0% chance you will be reborn again 😐as I said you were all ready in a endless sleep before you were ever born to begin with 😐you only FEEL as if everything happend so fast because your awake or alive just like sleeping you sleep in the night only to wake up the next day just like that but in Reality you have Ben dead for 9-12 hrs 😐
@@joshuabrunetta4656i think you can find a lot of philosophical debate on this in upanishads. Hell lot of intellectual masturbation in them on this topic and many more
I love how this program is genuinely being respectful to religions and to people who are sensitive to This subject. 👏👏 one of the best episodes I've ever watched from CTT. 🙏
rogers..Why should we be respectful of religions.?they are all harmful nonsensical cults.Millions of people have slaughtered each other because they followed the wrong imaginary friend.Millions of children have been terrified with ridiculous stories about an invisible lake of fire.there have been some ten thousand gods proposed by humans over time in hundreds of different languages and in hundreds of different countries. there is not,and never has been the slightest evidence that any of them, or anything supernatural is real.NONE.Religion is the main cause of attempting to slow our search for the truth of our origins and the beginnings of the cosmos.It is high time we humans leave this nonsense where it belongs,in libraries,in the section marked Mythology,
Just because you completely disagree with another ones belief doesn't give any excuse to attack or engage in conversation in any disrespectful manner. I have seen laypersons engage in a poor manor all the way up to scientists and sometimes professors doing this. It is wrong, and even sometimes nasty to speak and engage in this way. I have been guilty of this myself when I started in learning more about science after unknowingly been in a cult of the religious kind 30 yrs ago. Thank goodness I got out of that cult without too much backlash and having my life attacked by them as I was doing work for them unpaid and they knew very personal things about me like my personal relation with my longtime girlfriend as we were unmarried. All this was in the UK but if it was in the US they could of ruined my life as we were intimate but unmarried and they could of turned 100s of people against us from the organisation. Always treat people with dignity and respect because if they are treating you like that then they deserve at least this in response from yourself.
@@daviddickinson2535 arising consciousness' nature is incomplete this is true. The one with who's experience knows arising consciousness is final. In an illusion of ignorance, one might identify this "mumbo jumbo" even ignorance arises in perfect clarity to the one never clouded or affeted by what arises or how this is identified and by whom.
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I miss my father but he used to say that death was an adventure and that we must approach it as such. So I try to do that and just hope that he and the others gone ahead of me are all a part of my future adventure too.
I wish the same for you too.
TY Gus!
@@nickpolizzi5897 i just lost my dad yesterday.the world feels empty now
@@danielkammer3244 I'm sorry for your loss!
Those are beaitiful sentiments
Thankyou
Very well put Gus!
In 1982 I had a head on collision whilst driving on a highway. The cars stopped each other where they collided, both doing 100 km/h. My injuries were catastrophic and I was told I died, twice during hospitalisation. This afforded me a NDE which was profound. Yes I had the archetypal NDE the tunnel, brilliant light and a feeling of absolute love and care. I was very much myself throughout the whole thing and I was aware of ‘people’ around me who had my wellbeing at heart. I argued strongly that I was not finished yet. Actually argued is not quite right, it was a passionate discussion. I needed to return to my life. These ‘entities’ argued that my life would be hard if I went back but I didn’t care. I saw no heaven or hell or any such thing, and I saw no faces. It was all a telepathic sort of discussion, as if i were all in a place without vision. They were patient with me and respectful. Immediately I woke up back in my life. I was in a hospital with people working on me and a nurse put her face close to me, I could see her though I didn’t know for weeks that my head was like a basketball and my eyes were puffy slits. I said to her, ‘ do you have anything for pain, this is really starting to hurt.’ A week or so later I awoke in a hospital bed. My jaw was wired shut and I slowly became aware of my situation. There were tubes hanging out of me in various locations and when I tried to move I realised I was very badly injured. My wife was told at one point, that if I lived the night I would never be anything more than a vegetable. Later she was told I would never walk again. It took a year before I could stand again and it’s quicker to list what I didn’t break or damage, or lose. But I did walk again, and I went on to be the manager of some extremely large construction projects. Sure I have on going issues, I was left with chronic pain. At the time doctors told me I would have a headache for two years. Well it’s been around forty years now, and I have a lot of other pain. My standing joke is, I have only ever had one headache in my life - mind you, it lasted the whole of my life. Boom, boom ! I have never been a religious man, though I explored many religions in my youth. To me religion is a construct, like money or grammar. It provides a lot of people with comforting thoughts and provides a lot of people with a very nice living, without having to get a real job. There is no heaven or hell, there is no evil, just things we really don’t like done to us or others. So now I am approaching seventy years old, having crashed my car at twenty one years old. Yes, life can be tough, but it was worth every moment of coming back. What I came to understand is that we are always ourself, no matter what. There are many universes and more dimensions to discover. Primarily we just keep being re-inserted into new lives. Why? We are learning about ourselves, we are experiencing a vast thing so that we can comprehend the positions of others. We are growing with each experience and we are absolutely meant to be here. We are made of the same stuff that the universe is made from. We are an intrigal part of it all, but we are ourselves. We never lose that, whatever we are doing. Take the ride, stop worrying and rise above the petty fears and jealousies. Stop harming others and show them some compassion. Show some love and enjoy it. Smell the flowers, feed the animals and the joy will make you happy.
There is a holly book named QURAAN ,i advice you to read it , you will find a clear and meaningful answer about death and life
You had your wreck the year after I was born. I know that the quest to understand collective consciousness and higher levels of thinking, living, and ascending has been growing for a while now, but I am really impressed to see someone of your generation who has such a "new age" modern understanding and belief system!! Is this something that you already had started coming to realize before you had the wreck and your experience, as you said you had studied many different religions in your youth, or did it all start to click after the experience? I'd really like to ask you a lot of questions some time just to satisfy my own curiosity as your perspective has intrigued me! And glad you survived the ordeal in order to share your story!
@@الكاشف-د7ل you should check out a series, mainly via GAIA but you can find several episodes actually here on youtube, called Initiation with Matias de Stefano, with an open-minded approach and mindset of course. He gives some amazing explanations to so many higher level questions on existence and the universe.
Ali Ahmed- thank you for your advice. There is a copy of the Quran in my household and I was struck by the similarities of this book and The Bible. I know less about it than I do about the bible, because I grew up in the west. People have said that the bible is God’s word and some think it actually came from God. But he didn’t fax it to us, men wrote it and at the conference of Mycea men decided who;s stories were in and who’s were out. King James then decided what his version of the bible would have in it, and I know a lot happened in between, but I’m paraphrasing. As I said, I know the Quoran less. But I’m sure it’s a great book and helps many people in their navigation of this thing we are experiencing. This life. So far I have been impressed by many Muslim people, it’s a great religion. But there are extreme idiots who take it out of context. We are no stranger to such people. For Christian’s also have some extreme idiots. That’s just people. We are all learning, and are all at different levels. I leave it too there’s to judge where they think I may be. But why must we have so much bloodshed over who is right and who is wrong. Just respect each other and try to be helpful. It feels much better.
Ang31, thank you for your kind words. And yes, I had largely formulated my belief system before my car crash. That just brought it all into sharper focus. I am not sure someone of my generation having these thoughts is any monumental thing. There have been man people for thousands of years with very incitefull vies. Our ancestors were not idiots, they also needed to understand the big questions and some Greek philosophers were far more eloquent than I could ever be. Others also had profound thoughts, but not quite the same need to shout it to the world. I am against war, I am against violence (not all violence is physical). I prefer to try to understand, to learn where I can, to help others if needed. In no way do I want to shove my beliefs down any one else’s thought. I could be wrong! It’s a work in progress. Thank you for saying you are glad I survived, I am glad too. Tomorrow is another day, enjoy it. Be free, do good where you can. Believe what works for you.
ang3l : If you have further questions, feel free to ask. I’ll do my best, but I don’t think I am anything special. I think many people have enquiring minds and want answers. Obviously I only have my particular journey, my experiences to draw on, but I tend to ruminate on things a while. Before I get any answers I’m happy with, it sort of has to bounce off everything else I know, or perhaps think I know. Eventually it drops out and I have another piece to the jigsaw that I am happy with. The new piece will do until someone challenges it with a better fit, then providing their view is better than mine, I will adopt that. Oh, also my apologies for the delay, had some other challenges to attend to.
A zen master was once asked what happens after death and he replied, “I don’t know.” His questioner was taken aback, and said, “but you’re a zen master: you MUST know.” The zen master smiled and answered back, “yes, but I’m not a dead zen master.”
Until it happens, we do not know.
That's the irony isn't? Everybody would like to know, and we'll all know, when we die, just won't be able to tell the tale.
You don't have to die to know what death is. By understanding how the mind works you can make a reasonable assessment. I have undergone anaesthesia that suppresses brain activity and I had no experience of being unconscious, it was as if no time passed for me, I had no sensation of existence whatever, any more than I experienced non-existence before I was born. Even a Zen master can't tell you what that is like because it is like nothing. That doesn't mean you are just as likely to become a ghost, go to heaven or get reincarnated as someone else.
@@jeromehorwitz2460 yes perhaps that’s what death is - the absence of knowing or even the absence of the one who knows rather than a someone who doesn’t know...
@@robbiepeterh Death is an absence of the subjective viewpoint and it's attendant memories that you identify as your "self." It's impossible for a living person to imagine that, though, and that gives an intriguing terror to it.
and after it happens we know nothing
I miss my father, he was a beautiful soul i know that his energy is preserved in universe - it is constantly supporting me
Are there this many ads in the afterlife?
Mr. Nobody It depends on if you go to Heaven or Hell.
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When my father died in my arms, looking into my eyes I saw an energy, a beautiful golden light in his eyes that slowly faded as he passed. Its very hard to describe but Ill never forget it. It moved up and out of his body and gave me a feeling that it would always exist but somewhere else.
I saw pain in mine and sorrow to not live a full life with his wife.. But he had lived so strong just not with the love of his life.
Who can believe and see this happen..
Live here and now.. Cherish the moment because as far as I can see this is it.
To the memory of my grandad..
I witnessed a silver-white ball of light, like a revolving snowball, rise up from my mother the moment she departed. Nobody else saw it, including my uncle, her brother, who was present. Afterwards he took me aside and confided that he had seen the identical thing (his description was uncanny) when attending the death of their Granny Ning. My mother's last wish was to have the photograph of her beloved "Ning" at her bedside and I had made certain it was right there beside her.
That must have been lovely but the overwhelming majority, experience nothing! Also Dar far more people that are resuscitated or are very close to death but recover, experience or remember nothing !
Thats true my friend i wissi your dud has his peace where he is
So beautiful and so precise. No energy is ever lost in this world. Nothing ever ends and to believe that we are just a spark of light that dies with the decay of our organic host is absurd and naive. Your father will always be around. You just cant see him :)
i struggle with Death Anxiety. I wasn't sure if i was going to be able to watch this video without having an anxiety attack, but it was actually a very interesting pleasant video. I can completely related to your want/need to be YOU. Resurrection is what think I want as well, but I would be ok with a transformative aspect and just be able to remember who I was.. if that makes any sense.
Watch the egg from kurzgesagt, i think it is the truth of what life and death simplified.
You did better than me
I understand the thought of death giving you anxiety for me it's blood and gore that give me anxiety. But knowing that eventually for one reason or another you're going to die whether you like it or not should actually have the opposite effect you're going to get what you think of as a consequence regardless of your actions so you might as well just do it 🤷 kind of like a fuck it moment.... If that makes sense
Death is final for people that are just mortals. Death is a door that opens for people that are more than just mortals. I met a guy in jail that joked saying: "everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die". The only thing that is really tragic and devastating about death is that it is unavoidable, and we know it. Why waste time worrying about something completely out of my hands? Much better to spend my time making my life worth living it all over again.
I used to be afraid of death, but when I came close once, convinced it could really be the end, it wasn't nearly as bad as I imagined. My only regret was that I had left many things unfinished. But the thought of slipping over wasn't scary in any way.
It is not scary to die...
It is scary to face your loved one death.
Said by a person who never taste dying.
I can assure it was very scary
@@imanafdarI’d imagine to know you are about to die or at least think you are dying would be absolutely terrifying. Especially if young or leaving behind children or loved ones.
@@Mattwolf1186 ive tasted it 2 times and im 28, it was very scary when you slowly turn cold, harder to breath, your vision getting blurred, the pain you feel.
Anyone who never tasted it always underestimate how it feels, common people mistake is they cant differentiate between seeing + knowing and experiencing it yourself.
You dont truly understand something until you experience it
@@imanafdar Exactly, and we try to put it off as much as possible and try to not think about it or imagine it being at some distant time.
There are a lot of these near death experiences claiming that consciousness exists after physical death and others who claim they experienced nothing like deep sleep so idk what to believe about afterlife but I am a believer in Christ.
When a guy strolls though an old English cemetery in a black turtleneck....you know for sure he's talkin' bout somethin' serious.
Hmm, intriguing! He might just be taking a shortcut to his girlfriend/ boyfriend, whatever. I don’t judge.
My thoughts exactly
That’s what kept me riveted .
And the voice... bigger than the man!
Damn tootin
I used to be an autopsy assistant, and, while preparing the body for the autopsy, I very often felt a sense of awareness- that the consciousness of the deceased was in the room, lingering, following the death of the body. This perception was so real to me, that it has contributed to my belief that consciousness does continue, after the death of the physical body.
Yes, I feel them, but only when they want to touch us.
Unless you have proof, what your saying is just pure emotion not based on reality.
@@MsDudette21 There are many realities
@@MsDudette21 Exactly
@MsDudette21 His proof is conscious perception and proximity to death. There are definitive limits to what can and cannot be empirically proven, consciousness itself chief among them. Lack of empirical evidence does not preclude reality.
I had a NDE in August 2007 and spend 7 days in a Coma while my face was peeled off and rebuilt with titanium. Death is the separation of consciousness from the physical body and the ego identifications. We become a higher witnessing presence, a infinite loving consciousness, when the physical body dies. Death is really just the death of the ego as we move from our limited consciousness back to source. This is the state of oneness which is our true nature.
No, as the name suggests, you had a Near Death Experience. Not actual Death, but near death. You didn’t clinically die. No one has come back from being clinically dead. Clinically dead means zero brain activity. You are gone Dead.
What you experienced was pretty traumatic. But your brain remained active throughout. During this you could potentially hear or see anything. Hallucinations, dreams, etc. Your brain was fighting for survival.
So everything you claim to have witnessed would be expected. Nothing supernatural or magical. Just common brain activity.
The fact that you had this and remember it, is a good sign.
@@StephenMartinMusic you are right , but what if near death experience is like a sample of what death will be?
@@darkknikk9274 But it can't be.
Near death experience and sleep may be similar in that during each your brain remains active.
But not death itself.
Once you are dead, all activity ceases. There is nothing. No flash of light, or crash of sound. Not even a pin drop.
Time has no meaning.
When you had no concept of waiting around before you were born, it can also be said that at the moment of your death, the Cosmos itself will die. Profound, right?
I sadly have a lot of doubts, but i truly hope you're right 💓☀️🙏btw I'm happy you survived and recovered 😊
I was in a coma, and there was absolutely nothing. I was just gone until I reawakened in my healing brain. It wasn't scary or joyous. It wasn't really anything.
I love how Mr. Kuhn approached this subject: Almost with my exact POV, asking questions and making statements I would have. I was enthralled for the entire episode, and felt it ended far too quickly.
My feelings exactly.
Same feelings here !
You all mentioned you wished it hadn't ended so quickly and wanted more. There is another one by him called: "Is there Life After Death 201.". But personally, this was all too goofy for me. People making up there own theories = trying to mix science and some basis on religions that "all agree" or whatever...when all religion itself was/is the same as this - just simple people speculating on death and making stuff up. It's straight to Christopher Hitchens or Sam Harris after this for some reality checking for me, lol, but hey I wish you godspeed.
@@govindagovindaji4662 Thanks for the recommendation, but I've already seen it.
This is a subject where we have no alternative but to speculate. And, sure, aspects of that speculation may seem goofy to some (religions all seem goofy to me!). I suppose that's inevitable.
I don't see anything wrong with exploring avenues outside your normal range. If Hitchens and Harris are more your daily speed, just consider this a short trip into the periphery.
Out of curiosity, what is it Hitchens or Harris say about death that you consider a "reality check"? They don't have a clue what happens either. When it comes to the unknowable, just because you may agree that a certain scenario feels more plausible doesn't mean it is.
I'm not saying this as anything other than a cautionary knell: If you're really looking to expand your mind (on ANY subject), take care not to fall into the trap of listening ONLY to people you already know you agree with. That's how a person gets stuck in an intellectual rut. Don't stop taking those trips to the periphery, in other words.
Your comment kind of comes across as, "This line of questioning is 'goofy', so let me go back to where I know I will always hear what I want to hear."
That's a slippery slope, and an easy one to get stuck on.
Godspeed to you as well. We can all use a bit of luck and good fortune.
Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Live a good life and mortality is a blessing.
John Harmer : Very well spoken. Thx 2 John & Susan !
there's always Married with Children reruns for eons!!!
I got fed up with this video reincarnating itself every 2 minutes after an ad, so I died
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@@stacielivinthedream8510 Man, I am tempted, I swear.
I lost my soulmate this past September, if we are not ever together again then life is the cruelest thing to ever of happened....
I'm really sorry for your loss. Has there been ANY sign as to where there might be a possibility they are trying to reach out? Like lets say faucet turning on by itself? Maybe feeling like your partner touching you? Anything?
@@sunnyy1322 one night I was crying and really going through it. Out of nowhere I got up plugged in her alarm clock and put on Pearl Jams last kiss and I only heard the lyrics about God taking my baby but I got to be good so I can see my baby one day...I was using alot of drugs and alcohol after she passed...I could feel her in the room with me.. I been meditating alot the week prior to this where I also had contact with her. In my comment I was talking about being with her after I pass...
There is going to be a resurrection by Jesus Christ (John 5:28, John 11:25, and Isaiah 26:19, because after Armegedden Christ is going to raise the dead back to life, and they will have to be taught the truth about God.
@@gargould7186 and Santa will bring me new skates this Christmas yay!
@@bernicejenkins1515 Where do you suppose the complex design of the animals and the human body came from, a big bang? You have to be kidding, you really don't fall into that line of BS do you. Don't even text me if can't come up with something better than what you just did because you are just embarrassing yourself.
My parents knew they were going to die. My dad withdrew money a couple weeks before he died to help pay bills after he went. My mom a few months before she died she started talking in past tense. One day she said to me, "We had a hard time didn't we?" Oh man, that tore me up because I grew up troubled. Anyhow I was with her when she died
I hope you feel okay about this in hindsight. Wishing you well!
Why be afraid to lose your sense of identity when that happens each time you fall asleep? Every night we experience what it's like to fade away to nothing.
@@bennyskim how do you know it will return in the morning? People fall asleep expecting to return but some people never wake up although most expect to wake up.
when you go to seep you don,t know you,r asleep and when you die you don,t know you,r dead.i know because i died twice last year and when i came back the time was just gone that,s why i,m not afraid to die because it doesn,t hurt
@@coxhoe789 wow, glad you are back. What do you think of NDEs
@@coxhoe789 Did you see anything?? Or was it just like going to sleep and waking back up?
@@TaPharoah didn,t see or feel anythig i was looking at the doctor one minute and then everything was gone and i came to, three days later.if the doctors hadn,t of saved me i wouldn,t of known that i had died
When I die I plan to go back to doing what ever I was doing before I was alive
i was 14 sitting on my bed out of nowhere a distinct voice said ''YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HERE''' i now 55 hmm !!
For me, it is the same before starting and after finishing.
Rape and pillage if you were a Viking
When I was 14 sitting on my bed I heard a whippoorwill. Now I am 59. Hmm!
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That is not possible
I worked in a nursing home for four years. Someone from your past comes to get you. I can't count how many times people told me a family member, dog etc. Was there to get them.
Cheryl, I have heard that it’s not uncommon for a familiar face to ‘come and lead you’ when it’s your time. Someone or something you loved. However nothing like that happened in my case. Not sure why. I have always been robustly independent in my thoughts and deeds, so perhaps they figured I didn’t need it. I really don’t know. But if it gives people comfort and helps them in this profound transition, then it’s a wonderful thing. It does make you wonder who decides all this, doesn’t it? What things are are work here? It’s fascinating and each of us comes to our own ideas of what’s going on. I guess even the ones who didn’t have an opinion, either because it was too difficult to contemplate or they did not have the time, still have to come to terms with it all. Perhaps they were taken in an unexpected way, such as as shooting or an explosion. But the one certainty here is that our time will come. It would be nice to have been able to devote some time to considering that moment. It may be that when it’s our time to die, the passing of time as we knew it becomes irrelevant, slowed down. Then it wouldn’t be such a shocking process. My gut feeling is that we simply rejoin a vast expanse of consciousness when we die. Wouldn’t it be great if this ‘life business’ was just the eternal consciousness entertaining itself. Sort of a Super Mario game where you are ‘inserted’ into another being, just to experience what goes on in that particular world. Whilst in ‘the game’ we find ourselves wondering about the meaning of it all. It’s all sooo real we might opine, not unreasonably ! Then bang, the game is over, your credit runs out and it’s ‘come in number 24, your times up.’ We suddenly find ourselves back in the immortal realm thinking, ‘that was great, sooo realistic ! Next time, let’s try the tank commander or the fighter jet pilot. Guess we will all find out on the day, who’s beliefs were closest to the truth. But keep in mind, that day is coming. You would be wise to enjoy this life to the max until then because you may never get back. The next ‘insertion’ may see you as a mollusc on volcano world #17. Your imagination could have a field day here, it it hasn’t already. My glimpse behind the Wizard’s curtain (NDE) may or may not have given me a preview of what’s to come. Personally I don’t feel uniquely qualified to advise anyone else on their journey. All I can do is honestly tell you what I think happened to me. Do what you will with it, if it helps you then good. But ultimately I’m just another schmuck trying to make sense of it all.
@darthdude Hmmm, I’m gonna go with the premise that your answer was just poking a bit of friendly fun. That’s ok, we are able to see the funny side of many things too and we can take criticism. In fact I respect your right to be punished for saying anything you like. My family motto is, ‘The flogging will continue until the mood of the crew improves.’
The brain is a powerful organ .
When a person is near death they tend to hallucinate, and talking with family and relatives from their past is most common.
@Lisa Jordan How can a person have a sense of self or of reality without memory? And how can memory operate without functioning brain cells, a nervous system, a body to support them and a universe from which they all grow?
I think Deepak has the right idea- we cling to all the things we identify ourselves with but in moments of presence we not only still feel like/are ourselves but in such a more incredible and infinite way
It's strange he took this on from the point of view of "I am me, the adult I am right now. That IS me, this personality is me. I want that to be permanent and live on after death". Even though who he is now, his personality, the person he identifies with didn't exist when he was 6 yrs old, or 15, or 23...etc.
His personality that he had when he filmed this was slowly created and adjusted by every experience he had up to that point. It's baffling he chooses his personality to identify with. Whatever self is, it's definitely not the personalities we've built up.
The personality he has now, compared to the one he will have when he's 90 will be different. So which is the real him he so strongly wants to live as forever after death?
different yes , same core person though , i am the sum of my experiences and memories , but i am the person who experienced them yesterday and today and tomorrow
Exactly. Consciousness is not the contents of consciousness. It's simply the awareness.
Consciousness is a flow of information. Self is the structure of experiences into a narrative through memories, it's true. And those memories are stored in the brain.
Your subjective awareness is consciousness being aware of and through your brain and body. When the brain and body die the self dies but consciousness is a flow of information that exists in and through all things at different levels. Consciousness never dies.
I disagree. I feel that I’m, fundamentally, the same personality that I was from my first waking moment in this life.
I have expanded through experience, but strip away the experiences, and the learning, and I’m essentially the same person. 🤗🤗
Correct. To get to the core of who you are, must remove anything that changed over time, and find that one constant.
i agree , i was different at 15 sure, but i am connected and i am still the same person , different in the respect i am wiser and more informed about life, but still me the same me i remember , still making some of the mistakes and personality flaws i had back then, still had the same ideas, fears and conversations in my my mind i have now, people change but they aren't completely different , that is a misconception. if i met myself in a time machine at 48 (now) to my 15 year old self , we would be not so different as you think.
*This man wants to somehow "choose" the afterlife that he wishes, as if he could choose the truth, as if the universe should bend itself in order to pleasure him. What a nonsense way to be closer to truth !*
We see it everytime he goes into a interview if it does not persevere the self the identity after death than he can’t accept it but he can’t accept it partially because it is subjective but mostly because he’s ego is simply to big to give in into this “one with the universe and give up the self into becoming part of the bigger universe or god/reincarnation ”sense of the afterlife.
I don’t know, but it seems that he uses this tactic on purpose in order to stimulate people to go deeper on their explanations and give him as much as he pursues.
Seems very on purpose. While I'm sure this is actually what he wants it seems like he is playing it up for the desired effect
Actually his afterlife description choice cannot currently be proved or disproved so he's got the right to use it
Agreed. He seems very defensive.
His mustache grew in every interview almost like it was going through life cycles
😂
No, I swear it was growing by the frame.....
Hope the mustache has life after death
@@kimsharkie8952 lmao 😂
Ain’t that the truth.
I've listened to at least hundreds of near-death experiencers telling their story. Many of them say that when they die, they have a feeling of their consciousness, being-ness greatly expanding. They say they remember and feel who they are AND remember and feel who they were in previous lives. Some say that it seems like all their lives are happening at the same time. Many say that time is different after death - that all the times are happening all at once. They say when they focus on a time or a situation and place, they go there or can see it, and experience it as if it is happening right then. Many say they can not only see in front of them but also in all directions. Some say their knowledge of all things greatly expands, that there is a sense of knowing all about the universe, of having all their questions answered. They say it's like they have the feeling they knew it before and then forgot it. There is talk about the veil - the presumably purposeful forgetting they do when they decide to live another life. Many say they have some role in planning the life they want to live, like choosing certain things they want to experience in their lives or choosing who their parents will be. They say they choose to AND agree to live the life - some call it a contract. Some experience a life review: they say they experience their life not only as they experienced it, but also as the people that they interacted with experienced it. So, if you hurt or helped someone during your life, then in your life review you will feel it exactly as they did as if you were them. Most say there is no one outside themselves judging them. Most say that there is an indescribable, intense feeling of unconditional love during the experience, especially in the light.
By definition if someone is telling you what it was like to die, they didn't die. Losing consciousness for a while, or the body going into a suspended state for a period of time and then being revived is not death. The reported experiences are real but are only interpreted as dying, they are not actual death, any more than flying in a dream is really flying. All of what you are describing has been expressed as experiences of meditation or drugs. There is no evidence whatsoever that consciousness survives death.
@@coachafella Not true. You can confirm by looking at the credible research, including that of Dr. Sam Parnia. Also by viewing the testimonies of highly credible people who died, and while dead, observed and gained information about what was happening or had happened outside their bodies, information that was later confirmed by other highly credible people - just one example is the experience of neuroscientist Eben Alexander III.
@@SkysMomma What's not true? That people telling us what it's like to die didn't die? Redefining death isn't evidence of death or life after death. Consider the simple fact that the people telling you what is was like to die are remembering the experience, which can only mean that the memory portion of their brain was working and recording experiences. That is not death. There are various states of brain activity, but death means no brain activity ever again. There is no mechanism by which memory can be created if the neurons are dead. If the neurons didn't die it wasn't death. I accept the desire to believe in existence after death, and confirmation bias is incredibly strong, but there is no credible evidence of consciousness separate from a biological substrate with some functional capacity. We have known for 100's of years that injury to the brain has a direct impact on consciousness and mental function. There are many thousands of documented cases of partial loss of capacity and function as a result of various brain injuries. It defies all rationality, that full conscious function would miraculously be restored if the entire brain was dead or destroyed. Reports of life after death are not reports of life after death. They are reports of life experiences pre-death.
@@coachafella When you said that the people did not actually die - that is not true. They were dead according to all the standard definitions of death - no new definitions. That is easy to confirm if you watch a number of doctors’ video testimonies. And by the way, I don’t approach this from any religious perspective or with preconceived assumptions about what consciousness after death is all about. I approach it from a scientific perspective.
I don’t buy this. Once we die we are gone forever.
Love it when the living tells you what death is.
but death is the end. How would evolution generate something beyond that? Why would it? How would it benefit the species? Our species. We are one of many species that have evolved upon this rock, why would we be special enough to be awarded an after-life? Is it not more likely that through our evolution and understanding, we have developed a wishful thinking?
@@StephenMartinMusic evolution still does not explain consciousness. Which is where most philosophers say the mysteries of a possible after life would be
@@StephenMartinMusic well this is certainly a case that could be true, but if we want to be more clear, it depends on the point of view you choose to do. I would take your question and modify it a bit. Why would evolution generate anything in the first place? Why does anything exist? Why there are physics and mathematical relations to the universe? Evolution is a fact, physics is a fact, and if you try to answer these questions i asked without attaching anything metaphysical to it, the only answer you will be able to get is "just cause". But, if accept a metaphysical element, such as that life is eternal through an immaterial self, more "reasonable" answers can arise such as that everything is inside consciousness and physics and evolution for example has a role serving the eternal self to eternally grow and death is just another experience in that eternal grow. I'm not trying to propose any solution to the death problem here, i am just trying to demonstrate that "empty" and "irrational" thoughts can also arise from a completely material point of view.
@@derek2773 What is consciousness? Is it not just an awareness of your surroundings? Is it not just the ability to think? will I be in danger here? Is this something unique to us Humans? Definitely not. Dogs have the ability to think about tasks. Will I chase this ball, or will I not? what are the dangers? what are the rewards? Other species also have this ability. In fact its hard to determine at what level the perception of consciousness has evolved throughout evolution. In which it has. Most definitely.
Hey, I know that you can perceive thoughts to somehow be conceived outside your body, but this is just an illusion. Your brain is structured in such a way that allows this feature. How do we know? Well as an example; If your head is subject to a trauma you can lose consciousness. This in itself answers your question.
Humans through either a lack of understanding or its own need to be at the doorway of something greater, has the ability to dream up any possibility (True or False).
And we give it authority.
Yet reality itself can be even more grandeur than we could ever imagine.
@@nectariosgeorgiou Hey, I accept your belief here. Consciousness gives us that ability. True or false. Who are we? But my evolution argument stands. Why and where would a soul evolve? Show me evidence of an earlier developed soul within evolution.
You can't. (Or the suggestion here is that it just magically appeared?)
So the argument is this - I can't disprove the existence of a soul, and equally you can't prove the existence of one.
So what do we do?
Well we conclude with the following assumption. What is more likely? If we remove all the wishful thinking, what is the more plausible answer?
A soul raises even more crazy questions that what its worth. Equally, so does the tooth fairy.
Look, an afterlife would be awesome. I get that. Equally, winning the lottery would also be awesome.
We can both dream though, right?
As someone who has had a full life; ie. I have achieved all the goals I’ve had and now have no others; BUT does now live a life of chronic pain (due to a non-operable medical condition) I look forward to non-being; such as I’ve experienced several times when being anesthetized. In those cases I’ve “gone to sleep” not knowing if I’d survive the surgery and wake up or not. Upon waking I had no knowledge of the passage of time and no knowledge of my personal being while asleep. I’ve lived as full a life as I can imagine and I’ve had children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren who I believe I’ve inspired and helped all I can. I believe I will be missed more than I will miss living. The thought of dying, or experiencing a suffering death, is more troublesome to me than of no longer being alive.
Yes, a few folk in this vid. seem to be projecting their own views. I personally can’t see the big deal over death. The very few I had been with who were close to death expressed wanting it over with. I suspect this is more common than those who cling to the last moment
Must be nice to feel you accomplished everything and are content with the life you had. I Can’t imagine what that feels like and I’m sure if I was in your shoes I would be content with death. Some think how your soul leaves this earth is how you life starts in your next life, kinda like a continuation of the previous life but without and clear memory of the life and lessons you learned in the past ones. Humans are vary self aware and this self awareness seems to cause allot of problems in life for people and yet animals for that most part are not self aware but I find it hard to believe they lack a soul. Some birds mate for life and even a pet bird will never be the same with a new owner, wouldn’t that type of behavior be worthy of a soul? So why are humans generally speaking so troubled and dysfunctional. It seems as though humans are being punished because when you compare us to any other organism they can’t possibly live so distressed in life. Even a bird stand on the railing of a ship freezing to death and just before the bird falls into the water frozen, never once was that bird thinking how cold I am and will I die here and now. Seems to me one would be more at peace if we didn’t worry about such things. I know I made few bird references but it was a theme that fit and many other species could be used as a substitute.
I’m 98, I’ve not accomplished any of the things I’ve wanted. Been horribly crippled since birth. Have no family left alive except descendants of cousins who couldn’t careless if I existed nor even know I do most likely. Yet I’d never willingly cease to exist. I’ve experienced the anesthesia during the numerous surgeries and never enjoyed it. I wasn’t unaware at all just observing the surgeries from above and listening. It’s verified by medical records and researchers doing investigations on near death. That being said, I envy your wanting to die. I don’t, I’d rather suffer for eternity as that’s nothing at this point. Not being would be the worst hell one could imagine.
@@wrackable you probably have endured more pain then I in life and though I’m less than half your age I have the same fear of death that it ends in nothing when we leave this life. It’s sad to hear you have no one that you feel cares for you and I’ve felt the same. 98 is a vary long time that most never reach. I recall one person up in your age saying when asked” what your secret to long life” his reply was “I drink whisky and smoke cigars every day”😁 do you have an insight as to How you lived such a long life? I think it has to do allot with genetics but I like to hear your side of it.
@@Skilled_Driver my secret is that I refuse to let things get me down for longer than necessary. I focus on being grateful for existing. The simple things like, clouds, plants, smells , a good book, music, a good video be it escapist in nature or educational. Food is good. Never much enjoyed coffee or alcohol nor smoking or drugs even prescription so I never consume them. Not so much a secret as a understanding of what I should avoid. I’m sorry to hear your suffering as well. I hope you can make peace with what you can and overcome that which can be overcome, learn to deal with what can’t. That you find joy amongst the darkness as light must always shine even in the darkest times.
I appreciate your compassion towards my sense of unwanted and unloved existence. It’s truly ok, as I rather expect we are the true source of self, be it esteem,love or companionship. As we are all one behind these games we’re playing pretending we’re not one. Just my deepest thoughts on the truth of existence.
the perspective of Deepak Chopra is really interesting, and somehow makes a lot of sense to me
Deepak is expounding hindu philosophy I believe…
His diamond encrusted glasses really help sell the message.
Peace Seeker stop seeking peace and peace will come to you🙏
What Deepak says resonated with your true Self. You let the Truth enter your Being. That seed of truth will grow within you and you'll see the reality of this world sooner or later🙏
@@handynas6529 yes, it seems to be very much based on the Bhagavad Gita
Reading the title to this episode, my immediate reaction was "gosh, I hope so!!!"
Physical death is the beginning of true life in Christ with Family forever
Amen
So afterlife is full of ads without skip button.
The channel is a propaganda scam
Yeah, it’s a live video aswell. No ending
I hope not, reading the Akashic record after death would make a double life-time. LOL just adding a touch of humour.?
I was dead for billions of years before I was born and it was of no inconvenience . Mark Twain
Of course we don't know that, that's just an assumption. For all you know, you could have been reincarnated or had some sense or pre-existence (both views are spoken about in Judaism).
we ddint exist before we were born, we die every night we are asleep and reboot each morning, and it will be same when we die - we will simply no longer be. But we wont know this at all. As it has been for everyone before us and will ever be for all those now and after us. Get used to it.Enjoy life while you have it - its all there is. And can we not just keep on pretending? All this is just vanity and special pleading.
Our personalities which we hold so dear are mortal and disappear when we die. But our core soul/subconscious goes on and continues to evolve but then only if you make enough correct decisions in this lifetime to see that it does. It has been stated by credible spiritual masters that even a lowly minimally spiritually competent person will take about 7 lifetimes to reach eternal singularity consciousness. While others will do so in a much shorter time and a very small number will do so in this lifetime which isn't likely their first anyway.
If your intent is to progress and if you want your soul to go on you must at least reach a level of consciousness that your soul is ready, able and you desire for it to progress. If you do not go at least that far you are instead set on a course of dissolution.
It is useful to think of your core being as a dual vortex energy field, a torus, much like any polar energy field like the magnetic field around the earth. Some will call it apple shaped and some will call it donut shaped but in effect it is like a cosmic disc drive of information that is you. Just as the smallest particle of matter is nothing but an organized energy field so is your sentient being soul self. When you continue to add energy to one of these self organized dual vortex energy fields they expand accordingly and get ever stronger and also are maintained at that higher level.
If all of this sounds complicated and far, far out there it is. That is why religions stick to talking about noah's ark, angels and simple teaching stories that people can understand. The core of my message is that yes there is life after death but not for your petty personality. And yes an afterlife and continual spiritual advancement is worth pursuing. Don't ever be intimidted or overwhelmed by the task. Just think of baby steps and going forward. The journey of 1,000 miles begins with one step. When the student is ready the teacher will come.
@@watchth1ngs We die every night we are asleep? Haha wtf
@@yitzhakgoldberg2404 - Of course we don't know many things. That is not a reason to posit things at random. There needs to be a reason to suggest something in the first place, or it has no utility. You don't know that there isn't an invisible pink fluffy invisible unicorn standing next to you. There's no evidence to suggest that my pink unicorn exists to begin with, so my claim as no utility, ie to say that even if my claim was true, it offers no utility to spend time on the topic, since there is no evidence to suggest it possible to begin with. The claim about an afterlife is guilty of the same, that it has no utility.
19:10 That statement is pure comedy - once you understand what the real mechanic purpose of the brain is. Of course you will survive.
I'm so glad that Closer to Truth is still getting posted. Such an essential series.
@Billy Boffin this isn't rubbish if you don't like it. Don't eaatch
Personally i really enjoy Closer to Truth!😁😁
And they still continue.
I would like to formally and publicly thank Closer To Truth's guests and staff members for providing me with the opportunity to experience an existential crisis _yet again._
That is your crisis nobody else's, you exist now why worry about when you don't exist, you won't be aware of it.
There is NO life after death, whether you accept it or not.
@@Gian-ni There IS life after death, whether you accept it or not. 😉
@@albundy9597 "That is your crisis nobody else's."
Perhaps, but if you mean that when a person is troubled existentially, that it necessarily doesn't have an affect on others, then I disagree. How a person thinks can affect themselves, others and beyond.
"You exist now why worry about when you don't exist, you won't be aware of it."
Are you asking me a question?
If there is no afterlife then all of this has been a cruel joke.
Surprise!
I know real truth.
If you view Life this way - the Gift of Life - I assume lucky enough to be born in a rich western country - you could be born in one of those islamic countries forced to live under Burkhas, abused by their inlaws & still think life is cruel
Then you will have your wish - you will be born no more
You will remain the UnBorn for eternity
@Billy Boffin It's debatable, If we accept that the purpose of life to exist is to only exist and there's nothing more. Then I suppose one will have to endure the temporally of one short life and make the most of it. That is still problematic because even the thought of accepting and make most of this life, you still desire for more in that happy life you blindly accepted. As of now, life is a scramble, a search for something. You want to sit on a chair, you expect comfort. You raise a child, you expect happiness. It would be meaningless to exist for nothing and if that's the case there's no need for emotion or even consciousness.
@Billy Boffin No one asked to be born. No one asked for life. It's not one's fault that hasn't even had the chance to decide whether to live or not. Especially considering that many people are born with very unfortunate circumstances, like poverty, birth defects/sickness. The problem is that people are overly selfish and will breed whether they can give the child a good life or not.
It absolutely is not the end! I know for a fact that when you die you ARE JUST AS AWARE as when you were alive.
This realisation happened to me when I was trying to obtain an out of body experience while in a very deep meditation. I did not actually leave my body but instead was suddenly completely, clearly and overwhelmingly aware of this fact.
As this realsation was taking place I tried to think of a way to put it into a context that I could keep and the best analogy I could think of was that as I lay there, even if someonecame into the room and chopped me up with an axe, it would make absolutely no difference at all to my awareness, my consciousness.
This was nearly 30 years ago and it's been very reasssuring to have this knowledge. There is nothing in life to fear. x
Hi. Thank you for your comment. I have had an out of body experience many years ago, and I also have had a past life regression and between life regression in 2018...i have done many months of research on this top. I even started a UA-cam channel to teach others about what I have found out about the after body experience.
I will see if I can post a link to my channel so you can view my play list if I don't lose this place
Laurence:
Thank you for your contribution, I too felt comforted by my NDE and although I never believed in religion, this experience meant that I too had no reason to fear death. To me, death is a natural process of life and as far as I know, I wasn’t afraid to be born. Whatever you make of it all, I know that I am supposed to be here and I’m pretty much doing what I’m supposed to be doing. I have a great comfort about all this and it’s very reassuring. This knowledge frees you to get on with doing whatever you need to do. When it ends, it ends and I won’t regret it. I’ve been on borrowed time now since 1982, so I’ve had a pretty fair run at it. And my life has been interesting. Compared to some, I think I have had a wonderful life. I’ve travelled extensively and been able to do pretty much all the things I wanted. Can’t say better than that can you?
“Careful with axe Eugene !”
If a living person is telling you about death, you can be sure that they are either lying, misled, or confused. You will know when you know….if you are there to know.
This kind of logic makes no sense. Just because someone hasn’t actively experienced something that doesn’t mean that they cannot say, with validity, what will happen.
For example, I haven’t personally shot myself in the head with a shotgun. But I can comfortably say that if you short yourself in the head with a shotgun, you will die.
I've experienced life after death, The sad thing about dieing is you see your leaving and people screaming your name you cant stop and they're gone and you cant get back than I came to this place where everyone was happy i made it
I didnt and couldn't know what was goin on on this side till someone came up and said he's got to go back. I woke up to people giving me CPR. There is life after death You can believe that
And amazingly this "life" is one of joy & happiness forever and ever - "And they lived happily ever after" - wait, that's a children's fairy tale
Billions of dead people will be sitting about/snoring away in this Giant Retirement Home in the sky?
Our loved ones down on earth might be suffering/starving/being raped, abused - but we won't care anymore do we?
All God wants to do is be a Nanny to billions of people and keep them in cozy comfort
Ah the Grand Plan of God! Makes total sense
This was so great. I love Robert's interjections between Deepak's explanations.
Yeah
Deepak Chopra is to greatest charlatan of our time
This topic, hell, this channel in general, represents the highest form of consciousness achievable. In other words, I mean to say that the contemplation of consciousness is the highest form of consciousness. The irony here is that, by contemplating the finality of death, one comes to add more meaning to life. It is amazing to see this spread out through our existence in a fractal manner. The great benefit of the Apollo program was not knowledge about the moon, it was the ways in which we enriched our society to get there. The summit of the mountain is not the great triumph, it is the overcoming of personal struggle on the way up. "Have we vanquished an enemy? None but ourselves.". Have we figured out if death is final? No, but we have given more meaning to life.
I love this channel.
Hey Strelnikov... I like your worldview. Since coming down with cancer 14 years ago, I have been contemplating death more often. But somehow, instead of adding "more meaning to life," I seem to be subtracting. Is that a mathematical contradiction?
That was quite the platitude salad.
I just see plain sophistries by people who don't agree with the expiration date of their biology.
@@infinitemonkey917 I made it just for you. Bon apatite!
@@nickolasgaspar9660 I suppose we all are bound to see the world through our own lens. No skin off my teeth. But, and I think this is what makes this particular topic so fascinating, you have no evidence with which you can refute their claims.... and one never will.
"I don't want to give up my consciousness, I want to be me"-- the ultimate ego ........
Yes ! This man´s ego is the size of an iceberg. He can´t even hide his ego on the text. He should have a talk about ego with Eckhart Tolle.
Don't we all...?
@@bradbryant332 ofc aspecially me i think idk but me is me u won’t understand me I won’t understand you but that’s not us
@@bradbryant332 yes but but it can be smaller and bigger
this just means that their consciousness is the only thing they hold dear and he wants to be together with the same consciousness.
This man is searching for what he wants to hear and not what could possibly be the truth.
No, he is searching what makes sense to him. Not what he wants to hear.
@@goldo1107 this is what he said......."This man is searching for what he wants to hear and not what could possibly be the truth."
What makes sense to him is what he wants to be true.
What he is saying is that he doesn’t like what he hears, and he is listening to many theories to see if there is one that is more to his liking.
He is presenting alternate theories at face value for all to evaluate.
He is not picking a theory he likes, and then pushing that theory exclusively while disregarding others.
He’s only stating what he would like to be true personally.
@@buddyrichable1 begging the question fallacies on zero indications or evidence are not "theories" but wishful thoughts.
He is guilty of pseudo philosophy
Yep - afterlife - are we serious? Get real!
There is absolutely no reason to believe death is not final.
It doesn't sound like Robert wants to get "closer to truth", rather he wants a version of truth that appeals to him - even though he would eventually get bored with it and move on to the next thing. A road that eventually would take him to the destination that he refused all along but in small doses he could handle.
*I must find a truth that is true for me.*
_- Soren Kierkegaard_
Truth is something that everyone agrees with. In our society, that is impossible.
Deepak seems to have it all figured out.
@@clam4597 Lol he's hoping to be recycled
@@bragginrites8586 truth is an evaluation term. We humans use it to evaluate our the claims about reality, the world. A claim is true when it is objectively in agreement with current available facts.(preferably through scientific means).
Since there aren't any objective and sufficient facts to indicate or justify this questions we are dealing with a"begging the question " fallacy.
That doesn't mean that Robert's quest or people beliefs in afterdeath are not true or wrong.
That unfortunately means that those beliefs are irrational and that is far worse for a society.
Death once had a near-Chuck Norris experience.
When death goes to bed at night, it checks under its coffin for Chuck Norris
That’s your take on it u don’t really know if he was talking to his mom ..energy can never be destroyed
Whats makes Bruce Lee that?
Is this related to the story that Chuck Norris is actually dead already but Death is too scared to tell him?
I’m very glad to have discovered this series, Mr. Kuhn. The films are beautifully made, your narrative is splendidly written, the questions you pose and the topics you discuss and the great brilliant guests you somehow get to appear in the videos, are precisely those I’m fascinated by (unless you don’t cover extraterrestrial life, and I don’t yet know that you do). Thank you. Much appreciated. Keep up the excellent work.
The luxuries afforded by way of opion is weilded buy a sword of the broadest of proportion..hardest fact remains that we who currently inhabit the present cycle of "life"..."consiousness"..hell we can call it a "Lgbtqgdui" sandwich if we select...my point is dat we can only speak speak from the perpespective of the living...any idea about the experience of death really shouldnt be wasted argumentivly...siscussing death..really...hard one to discuss from experince...die as we live... Or live as we die...
We are all correct in our theories..simply could be loojed upon as bieng
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@@fukaface5842 Are you Charlie Kelly?
“What the caterpillar calls the end, the rest of the world calls a butterfly.”
― Lao Tzu
I hope so. Just been binging some true crime while I have covid, and some people’s sufferings are just unimaginable. Maybe death should be infinite.
@@Dalabombana life is not part of death.
Death is part of life.
Energy cannot be created or destroyed.
The meaning of your life is to give your life meaning.
@@ggeorge4144 The quote is referring to the continuation of life and the cycle of life.
I believe we are constantly reborn and consciousness continues. I don’t believe we will have any awareness of this continuation of consciousness but I believe we retain some of what we learned and experienced in our previous incarnation. Just my personal belief.
Your personal belief is scientific facts and moorish science I learn from my Ghana and Jamaican ancestory.
I know of a number of my past lives.
All Wisdom is within the Akashic Records, seek and ye shall find!
Wayne Drake How are you aware of previous incarnations? I’m curious. Were you human? Did you exist on Earth 🌎? In the Milky Way Galaxy? Within the Virgo Super Cluster? Somewhere else?
@@matthew944 I'm aware of a number of my past earth lives. The Akashic Records confirmed them, there are others that also know of some of their past lives as well. The bible calls the Records, the Book of Life. You can be taught to read your Records. I also know that I'm not from this star system. Home is Orion's Belt.
All Wisdom is within the Akashic Records. Seek and ye shall find.
Wayne Drake Did you live in the Orion constellation pre or post supernova? Is the Akashic Record like “the cloud” that stores digital information here on Earth?
When I am alive death is not around, when death shows up I am not going to be around, so why worry.
When the death come around that where the realty starts we start to see the proves that we waited all our life for it that's worry me so much how do I know will i didn't know anything before i get here.
@Jordan Kane Yeah, that's nihilism..
@Jordan Kane In most cases a persons life is pointless, yes. It all comes down to what you leave behind. For instance Galileo, Einstein, Mozart, Da Vinci made a huge legacy for the whole humanity, others have made smaller but not unimportant legacies that will affect fewer people, but none the less maybe even change peoples lives.
What you leave behind are often called your "unearthly children" and most of us don't leave that many of those behind, because it takes creativity, originality and courage to make one that's importan enough to last. Of course, you can always hope that your offspring gets an important legacy at some point 30 generations from now.
So if in doubt of your own legacy so far, start to create, be original and have the guts to put it out there. Otherwise - shag a lot. 😄
Epicurus said so 2300 years ago.
Test4Echos exactly no one ever leaves something behind since even if humans are still here after 100000 years its still nothing the universe is so old and big we are nothing. What we do means nothing so enjoy your time.
a wise man once said "life is suffering".
well, if life is suffering, death is the end of it. :)
If he was a wise man he would have said "life is for learning"
@@twilliams3642 our SOCIETY is the most stupid that has ever lived . Millions of idiots around thats your lesson
@@rob5197 😂😂😂😂
true
Who ever don't believe in hell is actually invoking it to come
We yearn for an afterlife because we’re smart enough to contemplate death and nothingness. Death and nothingness is anxiety inducing and the notion of an afterlife soothes that anxiety.
Absolutely agree with your statement.
I think the key is to remember that we are viewing death from a physiologically human standpoint (i.e. what will our brain think when we're dead? will we be alone and isolated in a desolate space?). But, none of these sensations or emotions will exist if we are no longer operating as human beings.
"This dude wants reality to behave according to his mental construct".
He already has presumed an answer and looks for people, who would ascribe to his presumptions.
Take a look at God and the afterlife by Jeffrey Long. It's an interesting study.
@@dontwastemytime277 is there a link?
@@funvids5592 It's a book.
@@funvids5592 ua-cam.com/video/Lfiwd2PzXvw/v-deo.html
@@dontwastemytime277 thank you!
This documentary is special to me, I will always remember driving my truck wayyy out somewhere in the wilderness of Oregon, listening to this, in deep contemplation of what this really is. Where IS beyond here?What is life? What is death? And what is the meaning of it all?
it feels pretty cool that we can dig into our own minds to discover pieces of the universe
If one identifies the ego or the body as life, then death of this life is final. If one removes his ignorance and become aware that he and everything around is inseparable, then he transcends death because there can be only life.
Most excellent although few will understand.
As said at 7:56, you must eliminate the Eggo 🥞
I enjoy(ed) the delightful rapport between Robert and Deepak. The entire episode is encapsulated in Chopra's laughter at Kuhn's resistance and attachment to identity. I watched their conversation three times.
Actually, Mr. Kuhn has a delightful rapport with all of those from whom he seeks enlightenment. His genuinely perplexed resistance is extremely relatable.
I agree it was such a charming way to push this topic
No.
Death is a transition from one life to the next,
You and I are pure energy,
Energy cannot be destroyed.
@@woodlakesound by our current measurement devices that is. Imagine how many things we can measure today that were in the sphere of magic two centuries ago
@@woodlakesound read my answer again
@@woodlakesound hint : we cannot measure or quantify consciousness (yet).
@@cicciogrecia you ARE consciousness.
@@cicciogrecia I can, doesn't take a genius to works it out!
My take: Death is not something that we experience first hand, therefore it doesn't exist. We were dead before we were conscious. Since we do not experience death, even if it took ten trillion ^10 eons, the universe collapsing and reforming countless times, whatever it is that's "me" would exist again and those countless eons would pass through the blink of an eye. Something experiences consciousness, whatever it is becomes "me". Now that doesn't satisfy the continuation requirement but if it's nothingness or emptiness that people fear they shouldn't worry because that experience can not exist.
WTF are you talking about? ... honestly.... insane
@@FLAC2023
this temporary but immortal window. surely you know what he means. your window will be extinguished.
we are all windows and each window has an assigned number. in your town that is your house nobody else has that door number. that number means that this is YOUR house and only your house.
you're not confused as to where your home should be located. it's neat and orderly. i am not "windowing" through your brain on occasions I am always here.
you are unique because of the 13 billion year history of the universe. this is what it takes to make your very unique window to the universe. for this to be reproduced the exact same chain of events need to happen again. that pattern builds your window.
cloning doesn't make another you it just acts like you but it isn't you. for YOU, your window, to exist again the entire 13 billion year history of universe has to repeat.
Yes you're describing a boltzmann brain and a thought experiment known as quantum immortality or the quantum suicide thought experiment. And I think it's something to worry about. The concern is that I will be stuck as a Boltzmann brain existing for brief intervals of time long after the heat death of the universe punctuated by very long periods of time between, which I will not be conscious of, before quantum fluctuations eventually resurrect me again, only to die once again in the vacuum of space, as the vast majority of boltzmann brains will be minimalistic and form with a minimum of environments, i.e. they will just be brains in nowhere space. To be resurrected over, and over, and over and over again. That sounds like a truer depiction of hell than anything ever come up with by any religion.
@@FLAC2023 Its not that crazy. You need consciousness to experience ‘things’. If you are unconscious you literally can’t. Have you ever been anaesthetised for an operation? When you come to, it feels like no time has elapsed at all. You need consciousness to experience everything, including time.
(No need to be rude to people exchanging differing complex ideas, it’s fascinating discussion.)
We don’t long for after life, we long for the continuation of life.. as a species we are conscious of our existence, and we want to continue our lives.
I can only imagine the destruction of immortality humans will cause.
Nice point,we have the basic feeling to long for the continuation of life because we are designed by the CREATOR for that(Eccles. 3:11).We grow old and die because our original father Adam rejected his CREATOR and we inherited sin and imperfection(Romans 5:12,14).But the CREATOR is rescuing us by giving a ransom sacrifice for sins we inherited (Matthew 20:28)so that many who believe will not be destroyed by death but will be given everlasting life on earth(John 3:16,Psalms 37:29).
You must be happy now. Some hopeless people on earth will long for after life.
williamrose :Just to make it clear,it’s everlasting life on earth with perfect health,without sickness and death(Rev. 21:4,Isaiah 33:24,Job 33:25). A paradise earth inhabited by godly,meek and peaceful people trained by the Creator Jehovah(Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:9).
Ronald Bercilla “trained by creator?” That’s definition of animal being tamed. Well I suppose we are animal in a zoo on a small rock looking up waiting to be pet by a golden hands from above. “Good boy!”
To say there is or isnt life after death is speculation. All we can say is based off our current best understanding of neuroscience, it seems more likely that death is the end.
'Life after death' violates the meaning of the word 'death'.
@@REDPUMPERNICKEL Words are not things, just handles for concepts. You should complain to the etymologists for their incompleteness.
@@musicbro8225
"Words are not things, just handles for concepts".
I believe that to be a true sentence.
"You should complain to the etymologists for their incompleteness".
What would prompt me to complain?
@@REDPUMPERNICKEL
Oh I see, you were saying that when we die we don't life anymore, got you. I just assumed you to be a pedant, my bad.
Not the strongest argument then ;)
As a child i was pushed into church, years later Im gladly attending on my own accord, thankfully my parents realised God's presence in one's life is crucial ,I thank the Lord for their mindset praise the Lord hallelujah!
I have seen my brother's soul after his death, l believed science till then. There's soul, and there is God... It's a metaphysical existence of our Consciousness.
Beyond Time and Space...
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I saw my uncle's soul right after he died. He was an atheist. I knew he had passed before his wife was pounding on the door for me to come and help.
@@zelenplav1701 and where do you think he is? What sort of condition?
AMEN!!! I have always believed in life after death!!!!!!
@@HD-uh7nj down the heavenly social drawing his golden dole money.
When my dad first passed i was lost as to if he was ok , I walked around for 3 days feeling that way and the day of his wake while the preacher was talking I got this overwelming felling of warmth kind of tunnel visioned or zoned out for a few seconds and new my dad was ok don't want to call it a religious experience but I knew he was ok. Can't say that there is an afterlife but I knew he was alright.
“To consider that after the death of the body the spirit perishes is like imagining that a bird in a cage will be destroyed if the cage is broken, though the bird has nothing to fear from the destruction of the cage. Our body is like the cage, and the spirit is like the bird. We see that
without the cage this bird flies in the world of sleep; therefore, if the cage becomes broken, the bird will continue and exist. Its feelings will be even more powerful, its perceptions greater, and its happiness increased.”
‘Abdu’l-Bahá
My dad took his life when I was 19 some time before that terrib,e day he said to me when I'm gone don't cry at my grave I won't be there . He had a strong belief in nature and studied the night sky as if he had the road mapped out
@@lindsaykelly2224 well that's just awful
@@ryuzakikun96 he had a belief in nature he was at peace in the bush
@@lindsaykelly2224 but he left you, he took the easy way out. But I'm glad you've grown to accept his decision.
"If the Universe is created rationally, then there must be an afterlife and a creator": Kurt Gödel, Mathematician and Logician
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
Ok sure. I don't see any reason to think it was created though, so the afterlife and creator both are up in smoke.
@@uninspired3583 I never asserted thus nor did Kurt Gödel. The Statement is conditional. Determining the conditionality is work in progress.
@@REDPUMPERNICKEL Mathematics and logic are about as far removed from 'wishing' as you can get.
@@peterrauth118 asserted, no, but it is implied by only representing one side of the conditional.
Without a reason to go with one side or the other, the quote holds little content.
Death is final. Life is here and now. Engage your intellect and your connection to others, now. It is fleeting and gone too soon, by any standard. Then, that's it. Memory does persist and that is where you will reside.
You have obviously done no studying on the afterlife none at all How the hell do you know??? Open a book read study the evidence for and after life is overwhelming why are you here
This was heavy...I just want to have enough money to buy a nice house.
That might provide you peace of mind, but you'll get bored quickly. :)
I felt this on so many levels
And a yacht and a small jet...lol
Enjoy every moment of ur life because when you loved one is gone all this will not matter to you
All things are possible, but it may take a lot of effort and persistence to get it. It all depends how much you want it.
"I don't want to disappear". That pretty much sums up how we all feel. All this talk about merging into some grandiose cosmic consciousness but losing our own consciousness and feeling of self awareness doesn't seem to be the answer we are looking for. If you lose your consciousness after death than you cease to exist. End of story.
True, same with reïncarnation
Eric the problem here is that the NDE scientific literature we have so far points to us not losing our consciousness and who we are after death .
The 2 prospective NDE studies of dr Pim Van lomme and dr Sam Parnia in fact show yeh opposite , that we don’t lose who we are after death
The problem is most people these days still think of death as a point in time but as dr Parnia says it is now thought of as a process and they are in fact bringing people back from the dead when they experience cardiac arrest and are resuscitated .
Science is starting to get close to solving this question then ever before and most sceptics don’t like where the evidence is leaning towards .
@@angelbrother1238
No one has really experienced death and returned to tell about his experience. My pathology professor once said that no one had ever come back to life after rigor mortis had set in. He didn't equate a NDE with actual death.
But i will be open minded and look into the studies of van lomme and parnia. Sounds interesting.
@@ericburdon6148 Eric the problem is your pathology professor is stuck in the ok’d way of thinking .
Mainstream medical science now says we are in fact dead within 30-40 seconds of cardiac arrest . Your pathology professor is not keeping up with where science is going with this .
In fact this is what happens 30-40 seconds after cardiac arrest
www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-future-brain/201810/how-the-brain-can-remain-active-even-when-the-heart-stops?amp
Following cardiac arrest, irreversible human brain damage occurs within an estimated 10 minutes due to the lack of oxygen [4]. Within 20-40 seconds of oxygen deprivation, the brain becomes electrically inactive, and interneuronal activity stops.
The patient is in fact dead . There is no measurable electrical activity and the neo visual neurons can’t even communicate with each other .
This is called clinical death .
If the brain = consciousness there should be no conscious awareness at this point but what we are starting to see is that there is conscious awareness at this point as dr Parnia and dr lommel have said .
Dr Parnia is the top NDE researchers in the world and is one of the top resuscitation specialists in the world and is an agnostic with no religious beliefs .
Dr Parnia used to speak at atheist science conferences when he was an NDE sceptic but when he changed his stance from his own scientific research he is suddenly not invited to these atheist science conferences anymore
Geeee I won’t why .
Say it with me folks , the religion of atheism strikes again
Dr Pim Van lommel was even worse as he was both an atheist and a materialist before his lancet study but is now a spiritualist .
Your pathologist professor is confusing clinical death with biological death .
In biological death the persons brain cells have become so damaged that it’s impossible for modern medicine to bring them back from the dead .
On clinical death it is possible to bring them back from the dead
And in fact dr Parnia is lobbying the medical community to change the name of ndes during cardiac arrest from near death experience or ndes to ades or actual death experiences .
Your pathology professor must be stuck in the 1960’s my friend
Sir, you are one of the best seeker of Truth I have ever met.
Fascinating discussions. It is amazing how much convergence of thought there is between the contributors. The concept of our consciousness expanding beyond the physical brain becomes more compelling. Modern physics shows us the existence of extra dimensions that we can not conceive, yet must exist for the math to work. I would expect consciousness to exist in these additional dimensions, and our brain to be a portal or interface to our 4 dimensional experience of life. What we do know is that the Universe is more complex and mysterious than we can imagine.
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Many of pioneers of psychedelics believed our brain to act as a filter with the pineal gland being an antenna, used to tune and dial our minds into the correct dimension. When taking mushrooms or LSD that filter is dissolved or opened allowing for more information to come into our brains. Inturn allowing our pineal gland to tune it's dial to the frequency of different dimensions.
Well said Simon, there is much to learn before we get close to understanding what it’s all about - if ever. The more you ponder this situation the more you realise that we are almost microbial in our ignorance. That brings into sharp relief the arrogance of those who believe they are clever and know it all. I still think our purpose here is to learn who and what we are, what we are capable of understanding and achieving. Instead, it seems we are infatuated with.inventing new ways to exterminate our neighbours. We need to stop this mindless pursuit into paranoia and fear. When you travel the world more you begin to see that almost everyone on earth will help a traveler. They restore your faith in humanity and it seems principally that Governments and the military are to blame for this madness. They line their pockets at our expense and then sit around brooding about being exposed. We need to realise that we are all just citizens of Earth, but that would mean the ones currently enjoying rich countries may have to share the wealth with others. As if it were ever theirs to begin with. Patriotism is a device instilled in people to keep others poor. We will destroy the Earth that nurtures us before we realise what we have done. Or perhaps Mother Nature will humble us before we can do that. Humanity is already on the brink of peril and if we don’t change our ways, then we will suffer the consequences and will either become extinct or reduced to primordial ooze and given another chance at it. Humans can be so brilliant, but we can be equally stupid. I’ve said many times that everything in the universe come with an opposite, so why should this surprise us. The most difficult lessons for us seems to be moderation and consultation. The vast majority don’t want war and destruction. We want to live in peace and get on with each other.
Cope with death lol
@@gamingbeast6629
Hmmm, that was a bit cryptic. Are you trying to say that its impossible to cope with death or something else ? I’d be interested to know.
What happens after you die??
Lots of things...
Just non of it includes you
Baz, I'm not trying to be controversial or disagree, but I think this is the real paradox of death. If someone else dies, even everyone else, you will still be existing, so you can look around and see that the universe is still there. When you die, however, it would mean nothing to say that the universe still exists because there is no one to give the report. The universe has ended and so nothing happens after YOU die. It's quite confusing since you see other people die every day, so it's natural to assume that you will just be another statistic, but going from existing to non-existing is a metaphysical act which can have no other consequence.
Steve C
Things still exist even if no one is there to see it...
My coffee cup is sat on my table now...
If every living thing disappeared, the coffee cup is still standing on the table.
Steve C
If you follow that solipsistic line of thought you’re going to end up thinking that the world stops existing every time you fall asleep.
@@bazstrutt8247 but if a tornado blow through your house the cup will not be on your table anymore .
Alpha uzoma
True...
But so what??
My mother heard me what I said looking at her photo. "I wish you could hear me and see me..." I put back the picture in the envelope and then spent my as usual, nothing special until that evening. A relative called and asked me to come over, but I declined because I was settled for the night. Then suddenly, I was forced by something to agree to visit. As a mad person, I grabbed keys and ran to my car. I was in the rush hour traffic. "What am I doing?" I asked. Drove 11-12 miles to get there. As soon as I sat on a couch, the person brought me something. I looked at it. They were all three of them I had recieved more than 10 yrs ago when i returned to work after my mother's funeral! The circumstances of those cards returned to me on that exact day, was a proof of other life. I had never thought about those cards for more than 9 yrs. My mother can hear me and see me.
stay hopeful, amazing grace, John 3 repent of sin and be born again, means we will meet again in heaven instead of weeping 4eva in regret. Daniel 12:2 in the Jewish Scriptures and Isaiah chapter 53
Problem I noticed with your story, you said you were settled in for that night yet you drove there hitting rush hour traffic.😆
Rightly said.
Funny how the most finite thing which is concciousness we take as eternal and what is truly eternal which is matter we consider as finite. But the body remains forever. We see bodies of the dead after their consciousness is long gone. And when a body disappears, it simply means the matter from which it was made adopted another finite form without ever disappearing as matter.
The mind evolved along with the body and
religious ideas are some of what's left over.
Robert Kuhn: “But I have a sense of my own personal consciousness, my own personal awareness, and I _like_ that! Are you going to take that away from me in some cosmic consciousness after death, or recycle me? Cuz I don’t remember any other cycles, and so those other cycles that I were do _me_ no good.”
And yet, your present life is no less precious for feeling like it’s the first and only life, the first and only “you.” When you are deeply (dreamlessly) asleep, there is no “personal awareness” there, and also no problem with its absence. Whenever the absence of “you” has been a reality (in deep sleep, general anesthesia, or before your birth), there’s been no problem. The problem is created by how this “you” is thinking about it all.
See Rupert Spira's UA-cam channel for more of this understanding of conscious awareness.
@Ruby Badilla If yes then yes. Check out the channel. It's great "spiritual" understanding.
@Veritas Est Lux if more people had a "deep understanding" then we would be dealing with more irrational people being gullible to subjective indemonstrable stories.
@Ruby Badilla There are no separate selves. You ask yourself the same question you're asking me.
@Ruby Badilla Single and whole 😆
During life you learn to give up things, dreams, people, your childhood toys, gone, forgotten, your first love gone, your first dog gone, your job gone, your original idea of self gone, your parents gone, your marriage gone, your house gone, your health gone, your young body gone.
And you are not getting used to it, tired maybe, and closer to giving up the hope that things can last. The grand final act, your ego, awareness of self to go?
Basically humans are delusional because of our strong sense of being self aware. It seems every organism besides humans lives with this earth as part of it unlike humans that push and repel nature. Maybe being self aware is humanity’s greatest flaw. Seems if we were not, that favorite designer bag wouldn’t be important or that sports car you want to buy in your mid life crises or even the idea of marriage would never be a thought I your mind and we would have no need for politicians that’s for sure. Just think of the possibility’s of Peace humanity would have if self aware wasn’t there.
@@Skilled_Driver We are scared of the future
everything exists to be let go of.
This is so true but my god its depressing. Is life just having all your hopes and dreams slowly stripped away until you have nothing left but to die?
@@billybobhouse9559 you apparently have been in the grips of control as religion was used for in the beginning.
“I don’t accept that, I don’t want that answer” feels very egotistical coming from a ‘truth seeker’
My sentiments exactly! This guy can't let go of self, therefore his ideas. He will never arrive at any truth other than his own.
He is thinking from logical and rational point of view. Obviously, one should not accept any fraudulent claim.
@@mathiasringle6972 Indeed, more like wishful thinking.
I LOVE what Deepak Chopra said!! Makes such sense , it’s all about continual evolution🤗🙏🏻❤️
Deepak Chopra's real name is Deep Clown. well, may be not too much of a clown if he can keep his mouth shut
if "you" want to live forever...
accept that it's impossible to experience anything if you are dead (forget Heaven for a minute)
accept that being dead for 10 minutes would "feel" exactly like being dead for 10 million years (both would "feel" instantaneous)
accept that as long as "you" are alive "you" are trapped inside "your" body
accept that you have no idea how "you" ended up in "your" body in the first place
accept there is no reason why wouldn't you just do the same thing over again but just in a different body
the feeling of being alive would be indistinguishable from one life to the next...all "you" would know is that "you" were not dead.
think of it less as living forever and more as it's impossible to experience being dead
EXAMPLE: you die as an old man or woman, and your next conscious moment is as a toddler in another body and of course no memory of your prior life or who you were, all you know is you are not dead. EVER.
In this model we are STUCK being alive one way or another for the rest of eternity.
It's like reincarnation but you don't remember who you were from life to life.
It would also mean there actually is an afterlife, in your next body.
It would also mean that sometimes you might not end up in a happy life, but sometimes you could be rich.
I suspect you wouldn't be locally restricted so it seems you could easily end up living in some other part of the universe.
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If this is true that we born again and again , and life carry on ; life never end. then this is a sad moment for me, i am 67 yr old man dont want to live after this life. becuz i live this and feel my life. i am deep thinker and glad on this. i live every execpt of my life. and now i am tired.
i am really happy and satisfied with this life and now i want to feel the '0'
i want to be destroyed my identity and become the zero. i really want that there should be nothing after this life. if this body dies than this old man also dies. i get knowledge and experience from this life and want to give it back to you and all my beautiful world. beautiful earth :')
@@todayismyday9782 well, each instance of life, under this thought, would be quite different from each other, and in your current life you won't remember anything of "your" prior life.
you said "i am a 67 yr old man don't want to life after this life."
ok, but take in to account that, before you were born, nobody/no being asked you if you wanted to be born in the first place. so in a way you have to be born/exist at least once just to just be able to have a feeling of choice in the first place. so in my opinion, having no choice of were we come from and go is baked right in anyway. Alas, yes, no control over where we go or come from but much more control over where we currently are. So it appears there is an incentive to leave the world/universe in a better place than when we arrived.
It seems the motto would be "there is no time like the present".
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if you need to.
like AW says... ua-cam.com/video/L3MA0n4jEXk/v-deo.html
@@lordoftheflings great link and thank you, AW hit the nail on the head and I am convinced what he described there is our best understanding to date of what we can expect to "experience" after we pass. I came to this realization on my own a few years ago and said to myself "there is no way I am the only person to have thought of this" and to my great relief I began to find hints here and there online that suggested a lot of people had thought of this already. I still don't know if there is a proper name to call what AW described in that video you sent. Is there a proper name for it?
But if you have no memory in the next life what would be the point? Same thing as there being no life after death, the experience as far I would be aware as death being final.
So, after watching this video 5 times, I have finally come to a deeply revealing, thought provoking conclusion. Nobody knows!!! lol
huff paranormal. read then the holy bible new testament.
“To consider that after the death of the body the spirit perishes is like imagining that a bird in a cage will be destroyed if the cage is broken, though the bird has nothing to fear from the destruction of the cage. Our body is like the cage, and the spirit is like the bird. We see that
without the cage this bird flies in the world of sleep; therefore, if the cage becomes broken, the bird will continue and exist. Its feelings will be even more powerful, its perceptions greater, and its happiness increased.”
‘Abdu’l-Bahá
Not so. Many know. You just don't.
Hebrews 9:27-28 KJV
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Oh,..... no sir, .......ee DO KNOW!
Just as you can know which way the wind is blowing by licking your little finger, so can you also know just exactly whats coming when it comes to the end of our lives. The bibles clear and its right on time. Believe it or not. Thats on you. May the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth bless your mortal soul.
I agree with deepak. I love when he says "expand your awareness" or consciousness. We feed our physical body with material food. We must NOW feed our consciousness with non physical healthy food. We worry too much about memory. Why not focus on now and future, and just let past memories run its course. I am not disregarding memory. It plays a critical role. It guides our way. It's automatic though. It just comes by itself when it's needed. Why? Because it's one of consciousness' faculties.
And what if (I don't say it is), all expanded awareness is nothing else but nice Confabulation ? On the other side, what if everything (even the consciousness) is copy of non material world (world of ideas) ?
@@SkydivingAndPPGhonestly I can't answer your questions my friend. Thank you.
What Depaak Chopra says is just horse manure in which I would like to stick his nose in It so that hdd et could realize th we meaningless of what he says.
@@dou40006 you have all the freedom to do that to him. Just mind the consequences. We only tell and share what we believe and know is true. We don't convince anyone. Thank you.
The interviewee said,, quite casually that " perhaps this life on earth are a small part of our total existence." This would imply there is an ending, no matter how long that is. If there is no ending, if time is infinite, then our life on earth can not be called a small part, but an infinitesimal part, not even quantifiable.
Short answer: you (and I) don't know.
Wrong. There are people who has already met with God and knows for a fact what is waiting them after they leave this world.
@@nikokapanen82 No they don't know.
Thank you!
@@nikokapanen82 lol......every dude met the god of his religion. They can not all be true...so having a malfunctioning brain making up stories based on the indoctrinated culture it was in...is more likely.
@@nickolasgaspar9660
Abraham did met with God, Moses did met with God and this God did claimed to be the Creator of all, the Alpha and the Omega.
No hindu or buddhist has ever met with the Alpha and the Omega. Muhammad of Islam only met with a spirit who violently attacked him to the point that Muhammad thought it was a demon.
So no, not every person of their religion met with God. Only Biblical people did. Other people meet with spirits and fallen angels.
I once overheard a conversation between two ordinary people. The first one asked, "do you believe in life after death?" The second person replied, "Well. I got THIS life."
Subtle but incredibly profound!
This is why Islam’s understanding and interpretation of existence and the afterlife is so powerful. You don’t lose yourself when you die, in fact God tells us when all our deeds are brought before us we remember everything that happened in our life. This is consciousness and awareness of each individual human that ever existed and it’s the key to our creation and existence on this universe.
That's the most daft
I swear I died once...... Easiest way to describe it is like this : Imagine you wake up on one morning ready to go to work, as soon as you wake up you realize its Sunday! no work! you close your eyes, lie down and get comfortable. In this moment 1. you don't need to get up 2. you are super comfy and are ready for sleep 3. your content as fuck knowing you can just lie there all comfortable. Based on my experience this state is how I feel death is, your so comfortable, at ease and no need to think anything. When I swear I died it was just like this, it was so comfortable, just like waking up and realizing you don't need to go to work, it felt like I was me the whole time, but I didn't acknowledge it, it felt like I could acknowledge myself as being me anytime I wanted, I was just too comfortable to be bothered to! Just like when you go back to bed, that feeling of comfort is something that is persistent in death, as if I could stay like this forever and never get bored of it. Then suddenly, I decided to acknowledge myself and wanted to come back, there was a jolt of lightning and then I CREATED A NEW UNIVERSE TO LIVE IN......
"Is Death Final?" No, there are laws now that allow the deceased to opt out within 30 days if they don't like it.
Thats actually pretty good man. lmfao.
wish I could've opted to be aborted
@@stoursjoseph Yikes! :^{
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I find it kind of humorous the interaction between Chopra and Kuhn. Kuhn is obviously a successful happy guy who has enjoyed his life and does not want it to end. Good for him, we should all be so lucky. But with that comes a price for a well considered man like him -- the fear of it all going away some day. Chopra is saying this incarnation of good fortune is a small sense of the greater reality that is, but since it's not in the packaged form of a life well lived on this planet, Kuhn is none too happy about letting that go. It reminds me of Christian verses -- the parable of it being harder for a rich man to enter heaven than a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, that he who loves his life will lose it and he who hates his life will gain it, and so on. There's resonance there... the "letting go of what is" in order to accept "what will be".
Good point
I had a feeling similar to that, but you explained it better!
Go with the flow, it’s not like you can do anything about it, so accept. It is what It is, and wether we understand it or not, we are part of it. We are on this journey. I plan to keep my mind open and enjoy it.
Yes, this is called attachment.
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He has set eternity in men's hearts. (Ecclesiastes 3:11).
Amen brother
What a load of nonsense. (Whatever 1:23).
Having problems with the word HE.
The thought of death consumed me all my life even as a child. I would think about my family members dying and burst into tears at the mere thought. I once went to the Er with a migraine, the nurse gave me a shot of a pain med, as I got up to go to the restroom bc I felt alil nauseous, I could feel I was going to faint and a nurse heard me say I feel faint , I woke on a bed that had been pulled out front by the nurses station having no memory of how I got there, no memory of my blouse being cut completely away from my body, no memory of the pads placed all over my chest with wires..they say I had bottom out, I had no pulse. As they worked on me I could faintly. hear the nurses speaking to me..
This is what scares me the most about death, you basically don't even know that you are dead, you feel nothing just like before you were born,it's like your whole existance stops, but I will keep an open mind to the ndes
@Eddie Murray lol, I forgot to add that after that happened I suddenly no longer feared death at all, I don’t even think about it ever..haha I can’t believe I left that part out! Perfect response, thanks for that.
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Who wants to "live" forever? Knowing that life has a limited span is what gives it meaning!
Good point, Too much of a good thing ...is just that! We only truly know what a good day feels like...when they can be contrasted by the bad days!
Me!
You interviewed brilliant persons, some views are really interesting. Thank for your serious work!
Death is hardly final. There's a lot of things we don't know nor understand.
Death may seem final 😐but it does not make since Beacuse if it was then earth would not have ever formed in the first place 😑earth is like a slot machine 😐not dice 😑saying that earth somehow formed in the first place is very impressive 🙂earth would be like someone willing the grand prize 🙂and after you win you won’t get the grand prize a 2ed time 😐or your next roll like a slot Machine most of the time you will lose 😑witch is why it takes eons for a planet like earth to happen 😐earth is like winning the grand prize that does not mean you will never get it again that only means that it takes eons 😑just like you winning the grand prize you won’t get all the time but in time you will get it again 🙂
Remember that one thing we don’t know of is any evidence of life after death. Only desire for it to be so.
@@waynesulak1488 because their is no life after death 😑it all has to do with the brain it’s self 😑what do you remember before you were born?😐that’s right nothing and when you die what do you become nothing…again 😑 consciousness was NOT created from the so called Big Bang it was created at birth 😐you think time is a real thing but time is just a means illusion 😑created my man kind you think everything happend just like that the Big Bang happend 14 billion years ago 😐but truth Is that’s were your lacking 😑 you were all ready dead for who knows how dam long 😑and you would have no idea that this planet would ever form unless you lived on it 😑so what is the nauture of self ?😐why do we see the world from first person view?😐if you can’t remember your past life what makes you think your going to remember this one 😐? The nature of self and why we see the world from first person view well when you die or become nothing…again 😑you will just end up as if you were not ever born to,begin with 😑you were nothing you dream your alive you dream and become nothing again 😑however long it took for this planet to form in the first place is how long we will be dead…again 😑rather the universe is infinite or not 😑and in a infinite universe their is no beginning or end and even if the universe is finite you still need a cause and effect 😐and to understand the universes future you have to understand it’s past 😑
They say death is final bro please sure we may be dead on this planet 😐but matter can be created and destroyed what ever is created can be destroyed and what is destroyed can also be created 😑 and besides all of us were dead all ready for who knows how dam long 😑you think we had a choice ? 😐after all consciousness was NOT created from the Big Bang 😑it was created at birth 😑before that you were nothing you dream your alive you dream and become nothing again 😐you don’t realize it on how long you have Ben dead all ready until your die again 😑and if you can’t remember your past life what makes you think your going to remember this one 😐?
@@waynesulak1488 there is evidence in near death experiences if we allow it to actually be evidence without immediately writing it off
I recently had a medical emergency where the medical staff had administered general anesthesia that rendered me sedated and unconscious for an invasive diagnostic procedure. My consciousness completely shut down (no awareness, sensation, thoughts or dreams-just total void and peace), when the doctor woke me up, I felt that was the best deep “sleep”-so peaceful and restful-I’ve ever experienced. I thought if death means that experience-I’d be totally at peace with it. Life is too short in this imperfect existence to be worrying about life after death, an eternal “heaven or hell” fate. I think we live our lives as best as we can be in our roles in life, using our talents and sharing/being good stewards of this earth, being helpful and compassionate to others, leaving a legacy of love, decency and kindness-that’s all I can really do in this life. I have no control beyond this life.
#1. Wishful thinking.
#2. Heterodox reincarnation.
#3. Mystical recycling.
#4 Miraculous dualism
#5 Magical replication
or the Triumph of hope over reason. Check.
Your a thinker Rob Love Star. Nice
Star trek had a replicator
Reductionism =/= reason
If my interpretation of your comment is correct, you are narrow-minded, ill-informed, presumptuous and dare I say ignorant. I died twice in one day and if you'd like a taste, go find a doctor to run a clinical ketamine session on yourself. Grace and peace...Checkmate.
@@arj282 If you died twice in one day and are still here, you've done one better than Jesus. Congrats!
Who am I to argue with such impressive credentials?
All I know is that there is death after life...
The principle is circular concept and not linear like nature.. It repeats and repeats.. Life death and life again is the transformation of energy from from one form to other..
@@vidyutshetty2372 how to escape the infinite cycle? Just recieve the spirit
@@vidyutshetty2372 Well we don't know if it's true and maybe we never will.
We are like 0 , we cannot be +ve or -ve as we cannot prove it
You don´t "know" that there is life after death. You hope there is.
There is no life after death. The idea is absurd.
There is no free will, there is no Heaven (or Hell), there is no purpose to life. What purpose could there possibly be? There might be a Creator - something that consciously brought the Uni into existence. Not God.
Does Deepak actually believe as fervently as he claims? Of course not. For him and thousands of others it´s a sort of a game.
@@roberthutchins4297 yes u r right there are some psychological phenomena like deja vu which are only a manifestation of our previous experiences and this is also one of them.
We are just animals whose brains have developed little bit to socially interact and civilize , THAT'S ALL the human brains is just made up of cells which will die eventually and there is nothing like soul because it's illogical.
When our cells will stop working we will die and mix up in the nature, that's all. There is nothing like life after death
New sub here, after watching this. I didn't want this to end! I loved how you asked all the good and hard questions and stood your ground with it. Saw through all of these common, Cryptic vague answers. It's so frustrating, I want ONE true answer. ONE. Not several dependant on who you ask answers but one. It seems that's impossible and we won't know until we die. But then will We? Will my actual personal awareness get the answer? Or will I cease to exist? I'm like you, I want that soul transformation and growth of experiences and wisdom and connect to the universe as a whole. But I also want me, Sheena my personal awareness to KNOW about it, and experience it. And to remember my loved ones and pets. It's confusing. But I can't help but long for the answers. Having lived/living through a REAL life haunting it's even made me MORE curious. There has to be something after! I'd love a part 2 or 3 or 20 of this segment, it was great.
The last interviewee Eric Steinhart touched on how death seems final, but also talked about persistence of consciousness through a resurrection as described in the Old Testament and what the early Christians believed in. If God created man from the dust then at death, would return to the same state. Our consciousness begins when at some point of the growth of the embryo the brain begins to function. At death, once the brain dies the consciousness ends and begins the decay, returning to a state of non existence. The nine resurrection accounts in the Bible shows that the consciousness can only be experienced again when God restored the human body to live again also restoring the memory person had before death which is like making an image of the memory and then restoring it in the remade brain based on the person’s DNA. All the Jews and early Christians believed in the future resurrection of the dead from the memorial tombs to be brought back to live on THIS earth cleansed of evil, transformed into a beautiful Paradise with the opportunity to live forever so you can be YOU for eternity. We only need to examine to see if resurrection really took place and test the truthfulness of the Bible. Welcome any comments or questions.
Sheena Alexis87 Children. Seriously though - these are the cells in your body alive right now, that can outlive your experience. In a way, while individuals have ceases to exist, life itself has survived on this planet for 3+ billion years, continuously. But, if you want your actual individual self, there IS a theoretically possible (but unlikely so far) answer - where you could remember your loved ones and pets. It’s cryogenics. Very unlikely to be reversible now, but that’s the only current way to preserve the physical body and brain indefinitely. Who knows what technology would be like in 20,000 years - if only preservation wasn’t disrupted for that long.
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These is no such thing as “one true answer.” Truth is relative, not absolute.
@@truthseeker3857 you know my point man....sheesh.
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You kept saying “I” “me,” “Sheena,” etc. Do you know what you are?
Say what you will about Chopra's intellectual credibility, but I actually find that in this video he gave the most practical advice regarding death anxiety that anybody has throughout this series. In fact, despite Robert writing him off as a mystic, I might even go so far as to say that Chopra's position is the logical conclusion of physicalist theories of consciousness. Given the likelihood that humans don't have souls, our conception of a continuous self is probably some kind of illusion. Our fear of death primarily stems from this misconception about a continuous sense of self. When you rid yourself of the illusion, there isn't anything in particular that you're losing when you die. Death framed as the transition from personal consciousness to universal concsciousness doesn't seem all that different in phenomenal content from death in the materialist worldview-with the difference in terminology being primarily the result of aesthetics as opposed to ontology. Out current scientific paradigm would lead us to believe that consciousness isn't a special substance, it is merely emergent from ordinary matter. Under this view, I fail to see how practicing rituals that rid us of the illusion of self and make us feel "one with the universe" is mystical; in a sense it's almost scientific. Just my thoughts, either way very interesting and thought provoking video.
Well said. I felt the same way after hearing what Chopra had to say. I wish I could find a book on his way of thinking and understand it more.
Interesting 🙂but I still wonder if consciousness was really an illusion then how come we were all born in different parts of the earths history?😐like ware were we before?the day of our birth?🤔were we in some kind of void ?🤔
One could put it thus: one does not 'have' life so one cannot 'lose' one's life. The individual ego consciousness is no more a part of life than a ripple on a pond or a wave in the sea. Thinking that everything ends when one's individual ego consciousness ends is like thinking a live broadcast ends when one turns the radio off.
@@Londonfogey death is final…..in this world that’s why death is a way to walk alone 😑however…doing dead just means to be sleeping and then to be nothing and that’s something all of us have all ready expirence before we were born 😐it does not matter if the universe is finite or not beasue the chances of life forming on a planet are 1 and 1 is higher then 0% and if you really wanted to be dead forever you would not ever be born to begin with 😑after all their is no telling how long you were dead or in this case nothing before you came into this world to begin with 😑 we don’t know if the universe as a whole is infinite or not but I think it’s infinite 😐not because I want it to but because that could be our Ture Reality 😐after all a true death does NOT mean it no longer exists😑 a true death means their is a 100% guarantee of something not ever forming again because ironically why did it need to form at all ?😑a true death means their is a 100% guarantee it it well never be created in the first place 😑0* infinity=0 but if a planet somehow can make DNA that 0 becomes 1 and 1 * infinity= infinity witch means well first of their are NOT infinite earths so the whole multiple universes no their is only just this one 😑you otherwise in a infinite multiple universes the chances of life are infinite and when you die you will just be reborn the next 😑not how it goes their is only 1 planet that can made carbon life possible and if the universe is infinite it means this planet will be created and destroyed a infinite number or times 😐but for this planet to be created again however long you were dead or in this case nothing/in a endless sleep before you were born is how long you will be until that day you are reborn again 😑you were nothing before you were born …you become nothing when you die 😑and don’t think that since this plant can or will happen again does NOT mean you will have a better life 😑it means you will and can repeat it ……forever winners will always be winners and losers will always be losers 😑after all you could have Ben born any point of this planets history 😐after all the sperm a male had seems most likely for your dna to be random…..but it’s not 😑so even this plant can be created again it mean you will or are repeat your life’s and you won’t ever know about it 😑after all if you can’t remember your past life what makes you think your going to remember this one ?😑the determinism part is their Is only 1 theory to the universe and their is nothing we can do about it 😑their may be aone bacteria or other microbes on other worlds but NOTHING like earth and our fate is intertwine with this planet 😑it was created before we even noised it and 2 it will be destroyed and we won’t ever noticed 😑death is nothing more but a endless sleep and like all matter in the universe matter CAN be created and destroyed your dna is made of matter and in time the moon will be drifted so far away nothing can stop the the oceans from rising eventually this planet will be 99-100% a full blue planet and as the sun starts to use helium instead of hydrogen it will expand boiling our oceans and destroyd the ozone layer so if the environment won’t destroy your dna the sun will and you won’t ever know it Beacuse you would be like as if someone had a seizure you won’t feel pain your sences will eventually be turned off like a light switch 😑you will die physically but dying in general just means to be asleep and as you sleep things would happen so fast but in Reality you have Ben dead for hrs 😑that’s the illusion of life I have realized life is nothing but an illusion but not the illusion you think 😐since this planet has a higher then 0% chance of being created you have a higher then 0% chance you will be reborn again 😐as I said you were all ready in a endless sleep before you were ever born to begin with 😐you only FEEL as if everything happend so fast because your awake or alive just like sleeping you sleep in the night only to wake up the next day just like that but in Reality you have Ben dead for 9-12 hrs 😐
@@joshuabrunetta4656i think you can find a lot of philosophical debate on this in upanishads. Hell lot of intellectual masturbation in them on this topic and many more
I love how this program is genuinely being respectful to religions and to people who are sensitive to This subject. 👏👏 one of the best episodes I've ever watched from CTT. 🙏
being good to customers....
rogers..Why should we be respectful of religions.?they are all harmful nonsensical cults.Millions of people have slaughtered each other because they followed the wrong imaginary friend.Millions of children have been terrified with ridiculous stories about an invisible lake of fire.there have been some ten thousand gods proposed by humans over time in hundreds of different languages and in hundreds of different countries. there is not,and never has been the slightest evidence that any of them, or anything supernatural is real.NONE.Religion is the main cause of attempting to slow our search for the truth of our origins and the beginnings of the cosmos.It is high time we humans leave this nonsense where it belongs,in libraries,in the section marked Mythology,
@@clarkelaidlaw1678 World Governments a "Cult"....
Just because you completely disagree with another ones belief doesn't give any excuse to attack or engage in conversation in any disrespectful manner. I have seen laypersons engage in a poor manor all the way up to scientists and sometimes professors doing this. It is wrong, and even sometimes nasty to speak and engage in this way. I have been guilty of this myself when I started in learning more about science after unknowingly been in a cult of the religious kind 30 yrs ago. Thank goodness I got out of that cult without too much backlash and having my life attacked by them as I was doing work for them unpaid and they knew very personal things about me like my personal relation with my longtime girlfriend as we were unmarried. All this was in the UK but if it was in the US they could of ruined my life as we were intimate but unmarried and they could of turned 100s of people against us from the organisation. Always treat people with dignity and respect because if they are treating you like that then they deserve at least this in response from yourself.
I say to death thank you I've just went through hell on earth
Death is gonna welcome you to real hell where you don't wanna go
@@temoor07 Personal hell is hell.
@@temoor07 If hell exists I'll tell god to go to it.
@@nathanforrest3483 just wait and than eat back that word on the judgment day
@@temoor07 👊🏻
Nothing in the entire universe is final. Loved Deepaks erudite explanation.
@@daviddickinson2535 It is intuitively truthful, if you can grasp that.
@@daviddickinson2535 arising consciousness' nature is incomplete this is true. The one with who's experience knows arising consciousness is final. In an illusion of ignorance, one might identify this "mumbo jumbo" even ignorance arises in perfect clarity to the one never clouded or affeted by what arises or how this is identified and by whom.
@xSTOICx "The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind .. '
We only know so much, but we know more than we used to.
Humans are evolving.