That was my grandfather's era back then - after growing up in the depression, I could see him refusing to pay for it fearing being $138 short on his death bed.
I’m a service technician at Sloan Implement in Illinois and I can say I wish tractors were still like this. I have more faith in a 730/830 than any of this new crap today. And I can easily work on them, no wires, no computer updates haha.
One year, back in the 80's, my Dad and Paw Paw planted 125 acres of 38" corn, 4 rows at a time with a 494A plate planter, and a 1956 John Deere 720 Diesel, and only burned 35 gallons of diesel fuel. I'll bet this guy's acres per gallon far outshine ours from back then. I'll bet you a dollar bill he's burning less than 4 gallons an hour. Probably less than 3.
@@foxacresfarm7595 its not difficult to see when you get to comparing the specs of the old two cylinder diesels against modern engines of equivalent horsepower. Paying special attention to displacement, and rated RPM. The bigger two cylinder Deere's have a rated RPM lower than some new diesels idle. They're also 1/3 or less the displacement, too.
The last of JD's true greats, 20/30 series were the best. And I'd still take that 830 and older planter over the new equipment of today, those electronics fail more often than you may think it does. Love the old JD's. Great video, cheers :)
@@MidwestFarmToys 6 cylinders vs 2, the 2 will win for doing the same job and still getting that job done just as fast with less fuel burned. The '30 & '40 series weren't as good as you think they were. A lot of issues until JD came out with the '50 & '55 series.
@@MidwestFarmToys 40 series has it's issues, agree to disagree. Besides the 2 cylinder, the '60 series was JD's last best design. The Johnny Poppers are still going strong even today. HP to HP, pound to pound the 2 cylinders did more than the 40's ever could
bigtractorpower some rat will chew the wrong wire and the tractor is useless until you take it to a dealer and have it pulled apart to find it. Modern tech in ag is pretty awesome but there is no doubt in my mind a 2019 8r will not be running this nice in 50 years
I learned to drive a tractor on Dad's 1958 830. Drove miles and miles mowing, raking, and putting up hay. Loved the tractor. Hated the sweat bees. But cherish the memories of long summers spent in the fields on the JD830.
Love the sounds of the 830 Diesel and 4620 Diesel, just effortlessly doing their work. About the only thing on tractors, that has not changed much over the years,.....is the bathroom. But they are getting a little bigger though.
Spring of 1958 my Dad brought home a new 830 D and a six bottom plow to do our pasture for the spring. He was a mechanic for our Dealer in Almira Washington. I was 8 years old and thought I was seeing a monster of a machine. i can still remember riding on that fender on the left while he plowed the field. Good memories here today. Keep[ it up.
Very cool memory. Thank you for sharing. I am working on a video showing an evolution of large John Deere tractors from the 830 to the 8400R. The 830 was a monster in its day.
Surprised one couldn't have put a simple 12 volt monitor on it, just to show row unit were working, but spent many years myself without a monitor, one learns how to plant without them, and really never had much of a problem. There are tricks to learn and use to make sure the planter is operating correctly, great video!!!!
It's interesting to see this 830 used to plant corn (maize). Here in Australia the big standard tractors like the 830 were mainly sold to wheat farmers for broad acre cropping rather than row crop farming.
I love the sound of the 830, it so appeasing, soothing, calming. I think I'm going to use the soundtrack to put myself to sleep at night ;-) Thanks BTP !
Is not that often i watch a video more than once .... id be on that deere in a heartbeat ... my neighbor used to run a R model putt putt but he chose the strait pipe .
You are making by far the best videos congratulations from greece please keep up the good work we like seeing big 2wd tractors at work and the best part on your videos there is no songs only the magic sounds of the machines
I don’t know much about farming, I just love seeing these machines and learning the history, but this made me think. If you were trying to make money farming wouldn’t something like this make more sense to use over a new $400000 tractor? If you can deal without the modern conveniences, wouldn’t you come out way ahead in the end over other farmers using a piece of equipment like this that was paid for, easy to repair, and fuel efficient?
Every decision comes with trade offs, notice how much dust he was working in and after an 8 hour day (minimum) that is not a comfortable seat. When farmers are planting hundreds of acres, old equipment breaks down (that is a 1959 or 1960 tractor), getting seed in the ground at the optimum time is important for final bushels per acre. Modern computerization on planting equipment optimizes how many seeds get in the ground, shuts off rows that would double plant, etc. Seed is not cheap and every penny counts today. Yes, the old equipment can be cost effective, it's up to the Farmer to decide the cost, time in the field, time in constant repairs, his physical health and his bottom line. Many people drive old cars and tolerate repairs, many businesses replace fleet vehicles often because cost analysis states repairs and downtime are more expensive than replacement.
I'll bet his banker ain't happy he's not paying alot of interest at the bank. I've often wondered if some of today's farmers aren't just hired men working for a banker
@@lawrencekieffer6770 most huge farming operations with new and expensive equipment or just pushing cash through a system and keeping very little of it for themselves.
Dad and I went to town in 59 and traded the old R for an new 830. The old girl would work all day on 25 to 30 gallons of diesel fuel. We farmed around 800 acres with it and a 820. During plowing season the only time that we would shut them down was to change oil or when it rained. I wish I still had it. It would lug better than my 4620 or 4850. I’m retired now and just purchased a 3033R cab tractor.
@@bigtractorpower I grew up in hamlin 🙂 Most of my family is from and still lives in the rochester area. One side of my family had a large farm in the syracuse area for decades which unfortunately had to shut down, another part of my family has a farm in albion.
Forgot to mention that like all 2 cylinder Deeres it has a hand clutch. The diesel didn't ping as bad as the gas powered ones did getting DOT physical a few years ago nurse giving me the hearing test said I must've spent some hours on John Deere,, I asked how could you know that? She said none of you can hear the same two high pitched tones!
mike underwood Not all JD 2 cylinder tractors had hand clutches. Foot clutches were standard on many of the smaller 2 cylinder JD tractors. The L, La, M, Mt, 40, 420, 320, 430, 330, and 435 all had foot clutches.
I am a die hard two cylinder fan but an 830 is not what comes to mind when I think of a tractor I want to plant corn with. I’d take a 730 diesel and an 8 row corn planter any day of the week though. I have a video up of planting with a 730 and 4 row oliver planter. Most fun video I’ve made yet!
He'll yes. A gas tractir still pulling its weight. I ran a McCormick gas wide front gas and it really was a joy. Mowed CRP fir thistles. Much smoother and quieter than the open station AC 185. Sipped gas and had a great highway gear. People used to drive them to town with a wagon for supplies, no doubt the maker was away a fair amount time on road. It seemed to be about 20 -25 mph
As crazy as it may sound I'd rather be driving the old 830 John deere..yes you're gonna eat a lot dust..but you also get the smell of the fresh soil and great sounds of the 830 tractors..I've been there and done that 👍🚜
Well I thought the Miata three wheeling on air would be the coolest thing I would see today but the 830 with a 30 foot planter just edged it out at the wire.
Look at 8:52 and you'll see an expansion tank for extra oil to deal with the volume needed on the drawbar of the planter. As far as pressure, I would think you would split the pump housing trying to get 2000 psi. Since these tractors had live PTO, looks like they added a pump there. At 8:58 you'll see a hydraulic valve on the right fender. The markers are hydraulic as well but everything is 2 way cylinder so there is no lack of oil.
We have a JD model 7000 planter too. 6 row 30 inch spacing. We pull it with my uncles JD 4320. We used to have a 4 row 7000 that my grandpa pulled with his IH 656. They are very simple planters, if the chains are turning they plant. Just get off every once in a while to check the population and you're good.
Retired a 720 diesel for the 830. Both exceptionally cheap running. Mowed hay with the 720 and could do 80 acres on 5 gals of diesel it was less than a dollar for the fuel total
That 830 sure is a horse of a tractor. Pretty slick setup to operate that planter. I bet them Deere engineers never thought they’d see a 830 pulling a 12 row corn planter lol.
It’s a true classic. Back then 8 row was big and a 12 row Deere was not out until the mid 60’s when a mounted hitch for the 5010/5020 frame came out to pull two 60 rows.
My neighbors had one with a Hiniker cab for a 4020 mounted backwards because it fit that way with the seat behind the wheels and and the doors were to the back where you climbed on the 830s.
these guys are real hard core farmers.......they have my deepest respect.....
Unless you are Clint Dufour that has no respect for the farmer. Take a look at his dumbass remarks.
The good ol days when you came home wearing half of the field...
Pretty dirty without a cab
Good old days eating dirt .
Ah farmer's lung
When the AC goes you curse the fact that you didn't by an open cab.
Plenty of us have had the experience of wind following you at the same speed you're traveling. Perpetually in a cloud of dust.
If you've ever ran a tractor for 10 hours a day you would be happy to pay 138 dollars for power steering.
Yessir I'd probably pay that much monthly lol
And I would add modern brakes!
I agree!
Just running my brothers a vs 520. Manual steering. Pull your clutch and lose hydraulics vs power steering and live hydraulics
That was my grandfather's era back then - after growing up in the depression, I could see him refusing to pay for it fearing being $138 short on his death bed.
I’m a service technician at Sloan Implement in Illinois and I can say I wish tractors were still like this. I have more faith in a 730/830 than any of this new crap today. And I can easily work on them, no wires, no computer updates haha.
Ditto!!!!!!!!!!
Look at that sassy old girl out there still getting stuff done.
Solid tractor. 😁👍
And doing it like it ain't nothing!
One year, back in the 80's, my Dad and Paw Paw planted 125 acres of 38" corn, 4 rows at a time with a 494A plate planter, and a 1956 John Deere 720 Diesel, and only burned 35 gallons of diesel fuel. I'll bet this guy's acres per gallon far outshine ours from back then. I'll bet you a dollar bill he's burning less than 4 gallons an hour. Probably less than 3.
RustyCarnahan doesn’t take a lot of fuel to push an old 2 cylinder along
@@foxacresfarm7595 its not difficult to see when you get to comparing the specs of the old two cylinder diesels against modern engines of equivalent horsepower. Paying special attention to displacement, and rated RPM. The bigger two cylinder Deere's have a rated RPM lower than some new diesels idle. They're also 1/3 or less the displacement, too.
I was just about to say that he’s planting many more acres/gal of fuel.
Greg Gergen more horses to feed with bigger implements make em thiiirsssty 😂
The 720 diesel was our main tractor when I was a kid in the 80s. Miss that ole girl. I'll find her and buy her back if I can find her.
I like the sound of the 830 diesel that it makes
The last of JD's true greats, 20/30 series were the best. And I'd still take that 830 and older planter over the new equipment of today, those electronics fail more often than you may think it does. Love the old JD's. Great video, cheers :)
No way. The 4020 and the 4440 were infinitely more useful than this thing
@@MidwestFarmToys 6 cylinders vs 2, the 2 will win for doing the same job and still getting that job done just as fast with less fuel burned. The '30 & '40 series weren't as good as you think they were. A lot of issues until JD came out with the '50 & '55 series.
@@Ham68229 30 series was junk. The 40 series is undeniable
@@MidwestFarmToys 40 series has it's issues, agree to disagree. Besides the 2 cylinder, the '60 series was JD's last best design. The Johnny Poppers are still going strong even today. HP to HP, pound to pound the 2 cylinders did more than the 40's ever could
@@Ham68229 virtually every other farm in the entire country had a 4440 so I guess we must disagree which had more impact on farm productivity
Tractors of today will not be doing that in 50 years.
I don’t think the software will hold up that long.
bigtractorpower some rat will chew the wrong wire and the tractor is useless until you take it to a dealer and have it pulled apart to find it. Modern tech in ag is pretty awesome but there is no doubt in my mind a 2019 8r will not be running this nice in 50 years
Some may still have that 830 out in the field 50 years from now though.
Dan W I hope so for I want future generations to see and hear what we were so blessed with!
Nice to see the two cylinder John Deere is still able to earn it's keep even without all the wizz bang computer setup!
Reminds me of my late father. 720 with an 8 row 7000.
Great vid BTP, some of your best.
Thank you for finding that old 830 out there planting corn. I really enjoy seeing those older tractors still on the job site.
That’s one good looking tractor
Old Johny Popper gettin' the job done. : )
I learned to drive a tractor on Dad's 1958 830. Drove miles and miles mowing, raking, and putting up hay. Loved the tractor. Hated the sweat bees. But cherish the memories of long summers spent in the fields on the JD830.
What a lovely sound!
Love the sounds of the 830 Diesel and 4620 Diesel, just effortlessly doing their work. About the only thing on tractors, that has not changed much over the years,.....is the bathroom. But they are getting a little bigger though.
Thanks. I appreciate your video's without all of today's automation. Nostalgic.
That is the best thing I’ve seen all week! Thank you 🙏
Thank you for the history of it. I recently had the pleasure of driving one a short distance into a paint shop. It was very short but joyful.
Very cool.
What a cool tractor! Looks beefy all dualled up.
Spring of 1958 my Dad brought home a new 830 D and a six bottom plow to do our pasture for the spring. He was a mechanic for our Dealer in Almira Washington. I was 8 years old and thought I was seeing a monster of a machine. i can still remember riding on that fender on the left while he plowed the field. Good memories here today. Keep[ it up.
Very cool memory. Thank you for sharing. I am working on a video showing an evolution of large John Deere tractors from the 830 to the 8400R. The 830 was a monster in its day.
The sound of that tractor. Good souvenir of me grandfather
Love Listening to Those 2 Cylinder Tractor's
Beautiful old tractor,love the low stance it has
Surprised one couldn't have put a simple 12 volt monitor on it, just to show row unit were working, but spent many years myself without a monitor, one learns how to plant without them, and really never had much of a problem. There are tricks to learn and use to make sure the planter is operating correctly, great video!!!!
Old girl is just barking , sounds great.
It’s a cool planting team.
It's interesting to see this 830 used to plant corn (maize). Here in Australia the big standard tractors like the 830 were mainly sold to wheat farmers for broad acre cropping rather than row crop farming.
Very Cool find, I love seeing old iron being worked like it was intense to be:) 2 cylinder Deere's were quite the machines in their day
That is a real tractor.
I'll bet he owns that tractor outright................
Great video
And can work on it when it needs it
Unless he got the seventy year payment plan.
That is pretty cool there , I like those old popping Johns
its nice to see how well an old tractor can run and look if it is just taken care of properly!
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I love the sound of the 830, it so appeasing, soothing, calming. I think I'm going to use the soundtrack to put myself to sleep at night ;-) Thanks BTP !
It sure does have a good sound. I like when it winds up a bit as it picks of speed after turning around.
This has to be the 3rd or 4th time I have watched this video and that JD830 and planter are still impressive!
It was a cool find to share. That classic 830 is cool.
Is not that often i watch a video more than once .... id be on that deere in a heartbeat ... my neighbor used to run a R model putt putt but he chose the strait pipe .
You are making by far the best videos congratulations from greece please keep up the good work we like seeing big 2wd tractors at work and the best part on your videos there is no songs only the magic sounds of the machines
Thank you for watching. The best music is the engine at work. Especially a 60 plus year old two cylinder.
Sweet, sweet sound of a John Deere two cylinder! Thanks for expanding your original video BTP!
Thank you for watching. In most cases in a compilation video there is just a sample of full video yet to come.
It was a very cheap running tractor and fairly respectable in power for that time period
The 820 and 830 were big solid running tractors in their day.
I don’t know much about farming, I just love seeing these machines and learning the history, but this made me think. If you were trying to make money farming wouldn’t something like this make more sense to use over a new $400000 tractor? If you can deal without the modern conveniences, wouldn’t you come out way ahead in the end over other farmers using a piece of equipment like this that was paid for, easy to repair, and fuel efficient?
Every decision comes with trade offs, notice how much dust he was working in and after an 8 hour day (minimum) that is not a comfortable seat. When farmers are planting hundreds of acres, old equipment breaks down (that is a 1959 or 1960 tractor), getting seed in the ground at the optimum time is important for final bushels per acre. Modern computerization on planting equipment optimizes how many seeds get in the ground, shuts off rows that would double plant, etc. Seed is not cheap and every penny counts today. Yes, the old equipment can be cost effective, it's up to the Farmer to decide the cost, time in the field, time in constant repairs, his physical health and his bottom line. Many people drive old cars and tolerate repairs, many businesses replace fleet vehicles often because cost analysis states repairs and downtime are more expensive than replacement.
AKWayne S very well said. K was going to answer, but no need, you covered it perfectly 👊
AKWayne
@@kswaynes7569 You have no idea what you're talking about
@@kswaynes7569 what ? 😬
Thank you. I loved seeing that 830 planting. I loved the sound of it. Keep up the great videos.
Thank you for watching.
He works in the dust and rain in the field while the Mrs. drives a Mercedes.......
lol
Fricken bad ass JD!
The last corn planter that i owned was a IH model 58 8 row 30 inch, and i pulled with JD 70. I retired from dairy farming in 1987.
I bet You it's paid for and the farmer sleeps real good at night if You know what I mean 😉
For sure. He's smart. He's getting just as much work done as he would with a brand new tractor and planter.
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I'll bet his banker ain't happy he's not paying alot of interest at the bank. I've often wondered if some of today's farmers aren't just hired men working for a banker
Yes here on my farm if I can't pay for it the day I bring it home I don't bring it home.
@@lawrencekieffer6770 most huge farming operations with new and expensive equipment or just pushing cash through a system and keeping very little of it for themselves.
Dad and I went to town in 59 and traded the old R for an new 830. The old girl would work all day on 25 to 30 gallons of diesel fuel. We farmed around 800 acres with it and a 820. During plowing season the only time that we would shut them down was to change oil or when it rained. I wish I still had it. It would lug better than my 4620 or 4850. I’m retired now and just purchased a 3033R cab tractor.
Oh man, that was nice to see, especially after all the modern ones lately!
This was a rare find and very cool to see in action.
Sweet 2 popper pulling a big modern 12 rower!!
It was a great sight in the field.
Oh the joys of an open ride. Brings back the memories of boots/pants full of dirt.
👍👍. My pants and shoes end up that way walk around the field filming these tractors.
Great old tractor. And very fuel efficient.
That's a low cost of operation unit. Respect.
Awesome. Love the old stuff.
I hope that’s your main tractor and that it helps make you a good living so John Deere can’t get anymore money for new equipment. #righttorepair
I grew up on tractors like this in upstate NY, good memories !
Very cool. I grew near Rochester, NY.
@@bigtractorpower I grew up in hamlin 🙂 Most of my family is from and still lives in the rochester area. One side of my family had a large farm in the syracuse area for decades which unfortunately had to shut down, another part of my family has a farm in albion.
Music to My Ears
Powerful tractor i love john deere
I hope you don't like modern John Deere.
Great video. Cost per acre to plant has to be decent. Great looking tractor and planter.
Those were the days We had more fun during that time
The 50’s to the 70’s was a great time in farm.
My dad is restoring an 820. Very strong old tractors.
You do a great job on all your videos. I really appreciate all that you do. Thank you
Loved that tractor sound. Wonderful video and thanks for sharing.
The John Deere two cylinders are true classics. Thank you for watching.
You got to love the old tractor s
I grew up planting corn with a JD 4430 tractor and 7000 planter ... Love the old iron 😀👍
Now that’s a plantin in da dust. I think millennial farmer would look good on that rig 🤪🤪🤪
Stunning old tractors, thanks for sharing BTP
Keep them running! We rake hay in Va. with a 630 and 10 wheel Kuhn Speed Rake. Go John!
Love to see the old stuff still working.......
Me too. Finding classics like this is exciting.
TY Mike great vid of a real farmer
Thank you for watching.
Forgot to mention that like all 2 cylinder Deeres it has a hand clutch. The diesel didn't ping as bad as the gas powered ones did getting DOT physical a few years ago nurse giving me the hearing test said I must've spent some hours on John Deere,, I asked how could you know that? She said none of you can hear the same two high pitched tones!
mike underwood
Not all JD 2 cylinder tractors had hand clutches. Foot clutches were standard on many of the smaller 2 cylinder JD tractors. The L, La, M, Mt, 40, 420, 320, 430, 330, and 435 all had foot clutches.
I'll bet your hearing was worse on the left side. Farmers and truck drivers had the same problem that's the side that faces the muffler.
That’s really awesome to see that they’re out in the field working away how do I would say a little bit dusty at times
Before the mid 1960s cabs were extremely rare. The operator sat out in the sun and dust. It is best to get to see this classic still hard at work.
@@bigtractorpower don't forget fresh air.
I am a die hard two cylinder fan but an 830 is not what comes to mind when I think of a tractor I want to plant corn with. I’d take a 730 diesel and an 8 row corn planter any day of the week though. I have a video up of planting with a 730 and 4 row oliver planter. Most fun video I’ve made yet!
we used to have an 830!
He'll yes. A gas tractir still pulling its weight. I ran a McCormick gas wide front gas and it really was a joy. Mowed CRP fir thistles. Much smoother and quieter than the open station AC 185. Sipped gas and had a great highway gear. People used to drive them to town with a wagon for supplies, no doubt the maker was away a fair amount time on road. It seemed to be about 20 -25 mph
He takes care of his equipment👍
Great video👍
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As crazy as it may sound I'd rather be driving the old 830 John deere..yes you're gonna eat a lot dust..but you also get the smell of the fresh soil and great sounds of the 830 tractors..I've been there and done that 👍🚜
Well I thought the Miata three wheeling on air would be the coolest thing I would see today but the 830 with a 30 foot planter just edged it out at the wire.
Poor guy did have to eat alot of dust but it has to be so cool running something that's not so high tech. Loved this video
I was wondering what they were doing for hydraulics. Thanks for the explanation.
Thank you for watching. This was a neat planting team to feature.
Look at 8:52 and you'll see an expansion tank for extra oil to deal with the volume needed on the drawbar of the planter. As far as pressure, I would think you would split the pump housing trying to get 2000 psi. Since these tractors had live PTO, looks like they added a pump there. At 8:58 you'll see a hydraulic valve on the right fender. The markers are hydraulic as well but everything is 2 way cylinder so there is no lack of oil.
We have a JD model 7000 planter too. 6 row 30 inch spacing. We pull it with my uncles JD 4320. We used to have a 4 row 7000 that my grandpa pulled with his IH 656. They are very simple planters, if the chains are turning they plant. Just get off every once in a while to check the population and you're good.
should have put something on the tractor so we could have heard the tractor better oh well was great seeing this ol gal out there working
Okay...what would "something" be?
Great video. Love those twin cylinders
The 830 was the big Two Cylinder. Cool tractor for sure.
❤what a lovely tractor a real classic love them . A fantastic video
Thank you for watching.
@bigtractorpower you're very welcome I loved it as I love JohnDeere tractors as they say nothing runs like a Deere
What a great find!!! Nice job btp
Excellent. Great to watch, hideous to drive if the wind's in the wrong direction.
Love this vedio. We plant alot corn with john deere 60.
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Very nice, love that sound
Great video of a great tractor , the 830s were on their own!!
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Finally, a tractor that sounds like the tractors I grew up with. (EDIT: The 830 that is)
I farmed with an 830 when I started farming back in 1974
Very cool.
Retired a 720 diesel for the 830. Both exceptionally cheap running. Mowed hay with the 720 and could do 80 acres on 5 gals of diesel it was less than a dollar for the fuel total
That 830 sure is a horse of a tractor. Pretty slick setup to operate that planter. I bet them Deere engineers never thought they’d see a 830 pulling a 12 row corn planter lol.
It’s a true classic. Back then 8 row was big and a 12 row Deere was not out until the mid 60’s when a mounted hitch for the 5010/5020 frame came out to pull two 60 rows.
We had the 2 6 row jd half round frame planter used 4020 with duals worked great doubt anyone has one @@bigtractorpower
My Nieghbor had one I Loved Operating It
The R, 820 and 830 are tough tractors.
My neighbors had one with a Hiniker cab for a 4020 mounted backwards because it fit that way with the seat behind the wheels and and the doors were to the back where you climbed on the 830s.
That’s a nice tractor
For some reason farmers nowadays are being told they need 2 to 3 times the horsepower to pull the same planter.
Love to hear those poppin johns👍👍🚜
Low speed high torque. The most efficient engine.
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i love that old put-put tractor from 1958-Gavin
Johnny Poppin right along!
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that seedbed looked perfect. Did he moldboard and disc it?