My grandfather was one of these men who fought for Beersheba. He was in the 3rd/9th Light Horse Division. I was only just born when I met him. When I was a bit older he was living in a Nursing home for returned soldiers. I saw many soldiers from WW2 with their legs bandaged up. He died when I was about 5 yrs old. I'm his only grand daughter who is still proud of him.
Within 12 hours 60.000 allied men failed to take Beersheba. 800 Australian lighthouse took it less than an hour. Not bad considering they was under heavy artillery guns, machine guns and aircraft and was outnumber 10 to 1
I am from NZ and we were in the Anzac fight but the English commander was stubborn even though we literally had around 6 platoons and 3 platoons wiped out and no Turks wiped out but no he had to continue anyways I think the Australian horses and men should always be honored for there victorious victory at the battle of Beersheba.
This is a tale that needs telling to a wider audience. What people need to realise is the Light Horse weren't cavalry, they were mounted infantry i.e. they would ride to the frontline, dismount and fight as regular infantry, NOT charge the enemy on horseback. They weren't trained nor properly equipted as cavalry, and at Beersheeba relied on courage to get the job done, and what they achieved cannot be underestimated. Lest we forget. FYI my grandfather was 2nd Light Horse, first fighting at Anzac Cove, and had to shoot his beloved mount at the war's end.
@Caesar Australis Australians did it for many reasons and not just for their mother country. Plus, Australians didn't want Beersheba for themselves and gave it back to the people. So by taking it from the Turks and gave it back to what is now Israel. The people couldn't believe that Australian Soldiers gave their country back to them. It was in an interview a few years ago. Back in those days whoever won the country kept it, eg as Turkey did, and so on.
@@Mav_F " and gave it back to what is now Israel" We captured Palestine and gave it back to the motherland (the UK) who had the mandate at the time. Israel didn't exist. We were protecting Palestine, and by extension, the Empire. Historical revisionism be damned.
@@Mav_F The commonwealth didn't "give it back", Britain was deluged by terrorism from the four major jewish paramilitaries for years, including a bombing on their central command (the King David Hotel) - all up nearly 900 British soldiers and subjects lost their lives. The settlers broke every single term of the Balfour Agreement, including flooded in 100K illegal migrants (leaving Britain financially responsible for them). The settlers breaking the terms of the agreement inflamed the tension with the Arabs even further, at which point muslims started to commit terrorism as well. The US congress threatened Britain that if they did not retreat they would withhold vital reconstruction loans, this was 1948 and Britain was badly in debt post war so they didn't have a choice but to retreat. Retreating meant Britain broke their 1915 promise to the Arabs for their own state (McMahon-Hussein agreement). This is why Britain and the Commonwealth didn't recognise the state of Israel for over 12 months, wheres America recognised them on their first day. No British PM visited Israel for over 40 years. It was never the commonwealth's intention for the jewish settlers to establish their own ethno-state, they were intended to be a jewish minority living in a muslim state - exactly as they has been during the Ottoman Empires occupation.
@@Booyaka9000 Correct, but it was captured in order to establish the 1920 mandate, which had League of Nations approval and the consent of the Arabs via the McMahon-Hussein agreement. British Mandate was the last legitimate and consensus government in the region.
In Israel we have national ceremonies to honor these Australian hero soldiers as well as many others. Most are buried here. We owe so much to what they did and as they sacrificed we do the same in every generation.Myself in 2 wars and my son also.
You don't owe Australia anything since the Israelites were barely about 11% of the population of Palestine when this occurred. Britain didn't begin to encourage immigration or repatriate Jewish peoples until the mid 20s. The people Australian soldiers sacrificed themselves for, the residents of the British mandate of Palestine - Palestinians, were mostly driven out of Palestine during the Arab-Israeli war in '48.
@@Booyaka9000 Ma'am, YOU are sadly misinformed. In the years before World war 1 and during there were 20,000 Jews living in Safed, 57,000 Jews in Jerusalem, jews lived then in Jaffa,Hebron Tiberius, ashkelon and Acre. Look here: the Arabs were rioting against the british and killing thousands of Jews. YOU think history started the year you had your first hard-on? Dumb head.
@@Booyaka9000 Ma'am JEWS were returning to israel ever since the first conquest of israel 2750 years ago when BABYLON conquered israel and exiled the jews. 70 Years later half the exiled Jews were given permission by Cyrus the PERSIAN King to return to Israel. The Romans exiled and conquered israel 1950 years ago. The fact that YOU don't know that many thousands of jews returned to Israel in every era since.
@@RasMajnouni If you want to be taken seriously, maybe don't ugly cry and rant when someone says something you disagree with. I mean... yikes, talk about unhinged freak out!
And yet it was Lawrence of Ariba that took the official surrender. Im proud to have served my country just as those Aussie heros did. Thank you for your services
My great great grandfather was in the 4th light horse Regiment who fought against the Turks at besheeba and he was an otoole an Irishman and there's no mention of Irishmen
Accolades to our Aussie cousins. The Wuhan virus pandemic and China's unmasked aggressive military posturing is calling for the Western allies to counter Chinese industrial and territorial ambitions. I see the spirit of the Australians here, a spirit the West will need in the post-pandemic world. You all have many friends in the U.S.
As an old 2/14 LH QMI trooper I would have liked to been part of this journey to Beersheba. The movie was good but to have actually been on the ground would have been mind blowing. Be wishes to all diggers and exdiggers.
One of the best ww1 historical events 🥇👍 i read up & watched so many old films on this light horsemen charge unknown to many 2 lost in the city found themselves outside the Town hall rode inside it & was handed the city of arabia b4 Sir Lawrence arrived days l8tr the British Media had to reenact the hand over for the newspapers :) 😜true chit what aussies read in 1917 was crap 🦘🥱the most feared army by germans and turks in there day
@@infidel202 That's obvious. I don't know what I wrote, maybe wrote a 2 instead of a 11, BUT.This nugget of history had a gigantic effect on the history of where I live in Israel. To me its not JUST a minor episode, I did combat army patrols by foot in the same areas you see in this video many times over many years.
@@RasMajnouni the story is on the Light Horse, you mentioned the Polish cavalry being disrespected as not one of the best calvary charges, the Light Horse is not a calvary battalion it is a mobile infantry unit, without splitting hairs there's a huge difference between the two, yes they both rode horses and made history, I as most Australians and New Zealanders grew up knowing some of these men and what they accomplished it's also part of our history, it's good to know that as in France and Israel/Palestinian they are still remembered for what they did
I am 82 y/o my fathe married late and had extensive experience treating men on the battlefield at Beersheba on that day. He says it did not happen. This story although I have heard it for 75 years, my father said the Army PR boys invented this story as Australians often got stories from the Army PR all about gallantry. He was an enlisted man in the 8th Light Horse Regiment and often became an ambulance officer in the 3rd Light Horse which was a medical regiment... He was at Bethsheba on that day after going around behind the Turks. He was in the ambulance unit then...sorry.
This you tube clip from the film, with music by Thomas Bergersen and Nick Phoenix will send shivers down your spine. ua-cam.com/video/_udGcKMhbtc/v-deo.html
We also had local arbs who played both side of war stole from the aussies and New Zealand’s and got there ass handed to them but cost both sides medals
.....something was mentioned on radio about a very restrained dishing out of medals to the men due to some war crime which government didn't want to attract publicity to .
What you say is true I know the event you are referring too, but Jews were not much better, some were in cahoots with Britain (which got 18,000 of them expelled by the Ottomans) and others were spy's against Britain. The jews actually declared support for the Ottomans at the beginning of the war - it's why even of those expelled barely any of them took up Britain's call to establish a jewish legion. 11,000 of the expelled were in an allied refugee camp in Egypt for all of WWI, they were asked to fight, only 580 actually got to the war, and they were the Zion mule corps transporting ammunition. Of those who did join the jewish legion they were trained, equipped and paid by Britain - after the mandate was establish they used these skills to establish their own paramilitaries which ended up attacking Britain with terrorism.
@@Booyaka9000 It's true, unfortunately. Retaliation for the botched robbery and murder of a NZ soldier , a group of mostly Australians order out to the bedouin camp and murder a bunch of men and boys - they were pretty drunk at the time and Australia did pay alot of compensation to the women and children.
God love the ABC!... no other channel would give voice to such things... not... without, some form of financial gain... i admire poor Rupert to no end though... dont watch fox but, completely admire him but!, his business ethic, moral and vision!!!!... a MM or DSC for Harry Harbord Morant would be nice though!, convicted murderer or not...
What a load of crap. Trump tried to screw Australia from the get go and reneged on immigration, defence (the marine detachment in Darwin alone cost both the Australian and US governments about $3.5 billion of wastage alone)and trade deals written in stone from 2016-2019. He was about as much of a friend to Australia as Putin is.
What 60,000 allied troops could NOT DO in 12 hours of attacks , 800 Australian light-horsemen managed to do in 1 hour . LEST WE FORGET
michael worsley. Never mess Aussies.
Amen!
I have just watched the 'Lighthorsemen' movie....Incredible bravery by both men and their magnificent horses.
The horses were called WHALERS , finest horses ever bred of the 156,000 horses sent over seas from Australia only 1 returned :(
you're forgetting so many things.......
My grandfather was one of these men who fought for Beersheba. He was in the 3rd/9th Light Horse Division. I was only just born when I met him. When I was a bit older he was living in a Nursing home for returned soldiers. I saw many soldiers from WW2 with their legs bandaged up. He died when I was about 5 yrs old. I'm his only grand daughter who is still proud of him.
My great grandfather was too. They may had known each other
1 Weltkrieg und ihr wart feige
@@Nathan-ry3yu 🍺♥
Well done . They were truly brave and heroic men. The world needs more men like them today. Salute from the USA 🇺🇸.
Within 12 hours 60.000 allied men failed to take Beersheba. 800 Australian lighthouse took it less than an hour. Not bad considering they was under heavy artillery guns, machine guns and aircraft and was outnumber 10 to 1
My beloved Australia, my Heroes.
Lest we forget mate lest we forget
@@MrDoggword Least we forget
These guys were the best.
Especially the beautiful horses that were left behind.
🇦🇺💯
that saddens me we left our horses..to be killed or...
@@trevordonohoe3712
Yes I agree.
Very sad.
I cannot imagine how our soldiers felt leaving their companions behind.
I am from NZ and we were in the Anzac fight but the English commander was stubborn even though we literally had around 6 platoons and 3 platoons wiped out and no Turks wiped out but no he had to continue anyways I think the Australian horses and men should always be honored for there victorious victory at the battle of Beersheba.
♥ cuz
This is a tale that needs telling to a wider audience. What people need to realise is the Light Horse weren't cavalry, they were mounted infantry i.e. they would ride to the frontline, dismount and fight as regular infantry, NOT charge the enemy on horseback. They weren't trained nor properly equipted as cavalry, and at Beersheeba relied on courage to get the job done, and what they achieved cannot be underestimated. Lest we forget.
FYI my grandfather was 2nd Light Horse, first fighting at Anzac Cove, and had to shoot his beloved mount at the war's end.
big appreciations from Israel.. well done
@Caesar Australis Australians did it for many reasons and not just for their mother country. Plus, Australians didn't want Beersheba for themselves and gave it back to the people. So by taking it from the Turks and gave it back to what is now Israel. The people couldn't believe that Australian Soldiers gave their country back to them. It was in an interview a few years ago. Back in those days whoever won the country kept it, eg as Turkey did, and so on.
@@Mav_F " and gave it back to what is now Israel"
We captured Palestine and gave it back to the motherland (the UK) who had the mandate at the time. Israel didn't exist. We were protecting Palestine, and by extension, the Empire. Historical revisionism be damned.
@@Mav_F The commonwealth didn't "give it back", Britain was deluged by terrorism from the four major jewish paramilitaries for years, including a bombing on their central command (the King David Hotel) - all up nearly 900 British soldiers and subjects lost their lives. The settlers broke every single term of the Balfour Agreement, including flooded in 100K illegal migrants (leaving Britain financially responsible for them). The settlers breaking the terms of the agreement inflamed the tension with the Arabs even further, at which point muslims started to commit terrorism as well. The US congress threatened Britain that if they did not retreat they would withhold vital reconstruction loans, this was 1948 and Britain was badly in debt post war so they didn't have a choice but to retreat. Retreating meant Britain broke their 1915 promise to the Arabs for their own state (McMahon-Hussein agreement). This is why Britain and the Commonwealth didn't recognise the state of Israel for over 12 months, wheres America recognised them on their first day. No British PM visited Israel for over 40 years. It was never the commonwealth's intention for the jewish settlers to establish their own ethno-state, they were intended to be a jewish minority living in a muslim state - exactly as they has been during the Ottoman Empires occupation.
@@Booyaka9000 Correct, but it was captured in order to establish the 1920 mandate, which had League of Nations approval and the consent of the Arabs via the McMahon-Hussein agreement. British Mandate was the last legitimate and consensus government in the region.
May those who fought in this conflict forever Rest In Peace, with the never ending love and remembrance for all of them
be proud for i am proud for you and the adf. RIP my fallen brothers
In Israel we have national ceremonies to honor these Australian hero soldiers as well as many others. Most are buried here. We owe so much to what they did and as they sacrificed we do the same in every generation.Myself in 2 wars and my son also.
You don't owe Australia anything since the Israelites were barely about 11% of the population of Palestine when this occurred. Britain didn't begin to encourage immigration or repatriate Jewish peoples until the mid 20s. The people Australian soldiers sacrificed themselves for, the residents of the British mandate of Palestine - Palestinians, were mostly driven out of Palestine during the Arab-Israeli war in '48.
@@Booyaka9000 Ma'am, YOU are sadly misinformed. In the years before World war 1 and during there were 20,000 Jews living in Safed, 57,000 Jews in Jerusalem, jews lived then in Jaffa,Hebron Tiberius, ashkelon and Acre. Look here: the Arabs were rioting against the british and killing thousands of Jews. YOU think history started the year you had your first hard-on? Dumb head.
@@Booyaka9000 Ma'am JEWS were returning to israel ever since the first conquest of israel 2750 years ago when BABYLON conquered israel and exiled the jews. 70 Years later half the exiled Jews were given permission by Cyrus the PERSIAN King to return to Israel. The Romans exiled and conquered israel 1950 years ago. The fact that YOU don't know that many thousands of jews returned to Israel in every era since.
Such a dicless loser you are.JEWS own your life
@@RasMajnouni If you want to be taken seriously, maybe don't ugly cry and rant when someone says something you disagree with. I mean... yikes, talk about unhinged freak out!
And yet it was Lawrence of Ariba that took the official surrender. Im proud to have served my country just as those Aussie heros did. Thank you for your services
My great great grandfather was in the 4th light horse Regiment who fought against the Turks at besheeba and he was an otoole an Irishman and there's no mention of Irishmen
cause the irish are under the adf. we were a band of brothers.
My great great grandad was in the camel corps and then later the 14th light horse regiment during the war
someone offered me some antique from this battle, so reading on it
Salute from the UK, go Australia 🖒
Glad to hear that this legend is from mudgee
Ogromny Szacunek !!!!
Accolades to our Aussie cousins. The Wuhan virus pandemic and China's unmasked aggressive military posturing is calling for the Western allies to counter Chinese industrial and territorial ambitions. I see the spirit of the Australians here, a spirit the West will need in the post-pandemic world. You all have many friends in the U.S.
I would have given anything to be there when the re-enactment happened
my great grand father was also percy george farmer
As an old 2/14 LH QMI trooper I would have liked to been part of this journey to Beersheba. The movie was good but to have actually been on the ground would have been mind blowing. Be wishes to all diggers and exdiggers.
I still have some dust from the Negev hiding in my Tuba.
Does it cause you a 2 day fever also?
One of the best ww1 historical events 🥇👍 i read up & watched so many old films on this light horsemen charge
unknown to many 2 lost in the city found themselves outside the Town hall rode inside it & was handed the city of arabia
b4 Sir Lawrence arrived days l8tr the British Media had to reenact the hand over for the newspapers :) 😜true chit
what aussies read in 1917 was crap 🦘🥱the most feared army by germans and turks in there day
ARE you dissing the Polish Lancers on Horse who charged the German Tank Corp, Pray Tell in 1938? Imagine if they had won also?
@@RasMajnouni not at ,but you are talking about ww2
The Light Horse was ww1
@@infidel202 That's obvious. I don't know what I wrote, maybe wrote a 2 instead of a 11, BUT.This nugget of history had a gigantic effect on the history of where I live in Israel. To me its not JUST a minor episode, I did combat army patrols by foot in the same areas you see in this video many times over many years.
@@RasMajnouni the story is on the Light Horse, you mentioned the Polish cavalry being disrespected as not one of the best calvary charges, the Light Horse is not a calvary battalion it is a mobile infantry unit, without splitting hairs there's a huge difference between the two, yes they both rode horses and made history, I as most Australians and New Zealanders grew up knowing some of these men and what they accomplished it's also part of our history, it's good to know that as in France and Israel/Palestinian they are still remembered for what they did
I am 82 y/o my fathe married late and had extensive experience treating men on the battlefield at Beersheba on that day. He says it did not happen. This story although I have heard it for 75 years, my father said the Army PR boys invented this story as Australians often got stories from the Army PR all about gallantry. He was an enlisted man in the 8th Light Horse Regiment and often became an ambulance officer in the 3rd Light Horse which was a medical regiment... He was at Bethsheba on that day after going around behind the Turks. He was in the ambulance unit then...sorry.
hi sorry just wondering if there was any connections with Cossacks in that time?
Wot?
It WASN'T A CAVALRY CHARGE! The men were Light Horse - not cavalry
This you tube clip from the film, with music by Thomas Bergersen and Nick Phoenix will send shivers down your spine. ua-cam.com/video/_udGcKMhbtc/v-deo.html
I know how to go down those secret pathes under the place
The best
We also had local arbs who played both side of war stole from the aussies and New Zealand’s and got there ass handed to them but cost both sides medals
.....something was mentioned on radio about a very restrained dishing out of medals to the men due to some war crime which government didn't want to attract publicity to .
I'll take revisionist history from Sky News about shit that didn't happen for $200, Matt.
What you say is true I know the event you are referring too, but Jews were not much better, some were in cahoots with Britain (which got 18,000 of them expelled by the Ottomans) and others were spy's against Britain. The jews actually declared support for the Ottomans at the beginning of the war - it's why even of those expelled barely any of them took up Britain's call to establish a jewish legion. 11,000 of the expelled were in an allied refugee camp in Egypt for all of WWI, they were asked to fight, only 580 actually got to the war, and they were the Zion mule corps transporting ammunition. Of those who did join the jewish legion they were trained, equipped and paid by Britain - after the mandate was establish they used these skills to establish their own paramilitaries which ended up attacking Britain with terrorism.
@@Booyaka9000 It's true, unfortunately. Retaliation for the botched robbery and murder of a NZ soldier , a group of mostly Australians order out to the bedouin camp and murder a bunch of men and boys - they were pretty drunk at the time and Australia did pay alot of compensation to the women and children.
God love the ABC!... no other channel would give voice to such things... not... without, some form of financial gain... i admire poor Rupert to no end though... dont watch fox but, completely admire him but!, his business ethic, moral and vision!!!!... a MM or DSC for Harry Harbord Morant would be nice though!, convicted murderer or not...
Beersheba, Palestine.
israel
@@dovishapero5601 I mean, Israel didn't exist when this battle happened, so... **shrugs**
I love Australian military there where the best. That why trump always called on them to help them in wars no one else
What a load of crap. Trump tried to screw Australia from the get go and reneged on immigration, defence (the marine detachment in Darwin alone cost both the Australian and US governments about $3.5 billion of wastage alone)and trade deals written in stone from 2016-2019. He was about as much of a friend to Australia as Putin is.
Matias Lind Steenholdt
You dont dress up like that on some else would be there I know I was in the 10th light horse
Australians against Arabs in a battle with horses?? they had no chance, they would have done better to ride kangaroos!
🤣But they did, and won!
The Lighthorse were mostly all the farmers kids, some brought their own horses over.
Looks better , maybe they are not horses you ride, maybe just desert snails 🐌
@@PoliticsFan-fr4pkThey couldn’t enlist without their own horse.
I am toilet trained