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My favourite relative was 95 when she died. She was a bad tempered battleaxe, during WWII she made tanks and lost an eye from a welding accident. She was a hard women but a faithful one. During her final week on earth, she was bedridden and did not speak or eat or do anything except repeatedly make the sign of the cross, slowly and reverently over her body. Her final battle, glory to God!
Ah, yes, all things are Serbian. 😄 Just like St. Nicholas of Zhicha (Velimirović), every Saint was Serbian, even Bulgarian and Greek Saints, they were really Serbian too! 😉
I have to do the sign of the cross with my left hand because it's the only one I have. I have had a few tell me not to because you can only use a right hand. They recieve a prompt eyeroll from me. Once I asked a woman if she would be my permanant caregiver and follow me around to bless me with the cross at my need since she forbade me to do so, and she quickly, stuttered walked backwards and got a fear stricken look on her face. Ahhhhh.... good times. If you're ever persecuted for being handicapped, offer your persecuter a job taking care of you. They will quickly vanish into thin air.
Chronic migraine here - exacerbated dramatically by incense (among other things). I have been known to intimate to critics of my at-home church observances that I'd rather watch the livestream than throw up on the icons.... Good for you! 🙏🕯☦
Granny is my favorite character in this lore... she reminder me of some of the babushkas you see in Greek small community churches. When I was in Greece there were almost only grannies in the church. When they found out I wanted to convert they became so happy and I was on great terms with them the whole vacation. Can't wait to see them again
If I had a dollar for every time I've triggered a wave of people making the sign of the cross in church, when I was just adjusting my eyeglasses, I could sponsor infinite more videos.
I live in a rural small town in the American South. Most people in my area don't know the Orthodox Church exists and all they know about Catholics is that their preacher told them Catholics are evil. When my family and I make the sign of the cross in public, we will often receive some very dirty looks. I actually love this. It feels to me like a signpost that I am on the right track. These looks are especially bad when praying before a meal with beer in front of me. Lol
"We are called to witness Christ, but that does not mean that our faith has to be in your face" Great advice for the Orthodox *online* and offline. Great advice for all Christians really, but extremely good advice for us Orthodox.
I want to thank you for your videos. I'm a Southern Baptist but the Lord has been guiding me me to the deeper truth found in Orthodoxy. I went to my first Divine Liturgy this past Sunday and it was amazing. Hopefully this time next year I'll be an Orthodox Christian.
Jesus Christ is God incarnate who came to earth to be born and live a perfect life, a sinless life. (He is one person of the Trinity, consisting of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; one God in three persons not three Gods.) Jesus then gave Himself up to be crucified and died to pay for the sins of the whole world. My sin, your sin, the sins of everybody. 3 days later He was resurrected. He now offers salvation to all who will turn from their sin and trust Him to save them from eternity in hell. He paid our debts because we couldn't, but we have to trust Him to do it. I cannot add anything to what He has done (not even baptism). I cannot do enough good to take even a year off of my death sentence in hell. The sentence is a never ending one, because I have sinned against an eternal God. But Jesus took my punishment, He saved me, and offers that same salvation to you. I am praying for you.
My two favorite cross making techniques: 1) the Greek Bouzouki player: such a rapid and small movement of the hand, making the sign three times in succession, to appear you are playing an invisible musical instrument. 2) the Russian Cosmonaut: the very methodical and extremely curvy arm motion, as if you are trying to simultaneously control your arm in zero gravity while having to navigate around your body's bulky space suit.
I remember once I was carried off by a large demon. He said the sentence of death given to all people was to come upon me. I resigned myself to the mercy of God and made the sign of the cross. You never saw anything so big run away from something so small..
I’ve heard of people imprisoned making the sign in secret with their tongues in their mouth when doing so normally would cause the guards to beat them.
Not Orthodox myself, but your vids always bless, educate, and help me appreciate my siblings in Christ---and this one especially today. Don't really know how to put it into words, but it blessed me more than usual. I learned an appreciation for the sign of the cross at my yia-yia's funeral. She was protestant, but my grandfather returned to his Greek Orthodox roots and found a community when she got dementia. A
Apparently my priest recently made the sign of the cross WITH a newly illumined baby in hand. So you could add blessing folks with babies to your list, maybe🤣
Always enjoy watching your videos, glad you managed to reference some Catholicism in your images as we also bless ourselves, albeit in the opposite direction to the E. Orthodox.
I'm a Catholic and have always made the sign of the cross left too right but I never knew about the three fingers and the two down that was never explained so Thankyou very much.
@@BibleIllustrated Bojan, I was reading genesis a few days ago and remembered chapter 18, is it a reference to the trinity? since Abraham called the three men "LORD", or are the three visitors just angels?
@@James-en1ob They are seen as a reference to the Trinity by the Church. In fact, the icon of the three angels is called 'the Old Testament Trinity' and is considered a rare canonical depiction of the Trinity Itself.
My family is very devoted to their protestant church (CCB christian congregation in Brazil), but i have been watching a lot of videos about christianity, and the history of the church, i discovered eastern orthodoxy and i was fascinated, i dove deeper and im planning to convert when i get older, i told my cousin (who is a musician in the CCB) about my plans and he had the usual objections (saints are idolatry and other stuff), and he said the cross is bad because it killed Christ, i tried to explain it symbolizes his ressurection but he didnt agree, this video has helped me to understand more about the sign of the cross, and i will use the information here to, maybe, convert him :) TL:DR: thanks for the video i will use it to debate my protestant cousin 🙏☦️
Your channel is entertaining and educating at the same time. Maybe nowadays with forklifts, Organs will be allowed back in the Church, provided their is a forklift on hand.
Okay but what about putting your hand over your heart when you finish doing the sign of the cross? It's just a custom, but is there any opinion on it either way? When should we cross ourselves three times over and when should we just do it once? And how was Thessalonica?
1) Never heard of putting your hand over your heart in these 17 years of being a practicing Orthodox, curious to know more 2) This is something some people do but is generally done for prayers done in threes (such as the Trisagion) 3) Podcast episode on this coming soon! :-)
@@BibleIllustrated 1. Maybe I expressed it wrong, or maybe it's just a Greek thing, but at the end of the cross people seem to put a palm over their heart: ua-cam.com/video/dUXNHzjWL68/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TrisagionFilms 2. And nice it looks I've been overcrossing myself, thanks for helping this fat man do less movement :D
I attended a Greek church for a while, and they always laid their hand over their heart afterwards. Edited to add; they always signed 3 times. I never once saw anyone make the sign only once during service.
your priest probably doesn't have time to object (there's a line behind you, and at that moment if his wife didn't say her name he'd probably not remember it) or the inclination to stop an act of piety by people who have so few (nothing personal! ) or even see you. remember! he is holding Christ in his hands! frankly, it's a miracle of grace that we don't just burst into flame.
@@thedreadtyger In one of the orders of preparation for Communion (I'm kinda new; I think that's how to describe it!?), my favorite phrase is something like, "I, being grass, partake of fire; strange wonder, I am not consumed" ... (I'd look it up to quote it exactly, but I'm traveling, and it's 1200 miles away...!) 🥴
In my school one girl brought a box with prayer robes and Orthodox Icons and she placed them on a table and the girls gathered to have a prayer circle because we had a test from pshysics,and its pretty common to see people crossing entering the class when we have a test,btw im serbian
As far as I have researched, it was originally right to left, but then it was changed in the West for some reason. And I have also heard this from the mouth of a Catholic priest, so I will believe this theory holds water
This might be a silly question, I am planning to go to a Orthodox church soon and wanted to make sure i had this right. In all Orthodox churches is it right shoulder then left, I am going to a Serbian Orthodox Church named after a saint.
Not a silly question! Yes all eastern orthodox (greece, russia, OCA, Serbia, ukraine, antioch, jerusalem, Bulgaria, etc) Christians do right shoulder to left. You may encounter some "oriental orthodox" (coptic, armenian, ethiopian) Christians doing the opposite, but keep in mind they are not orthodox. Also, did you end up going? God bless
@@BibleIllustrated too bad the Greek Orthodox in the states have Protestantized themselves and brought in the use of organs. It’s such a distraction during worship.
I am soo glad that you treated this topic, especially for patristic refferences. But...on which works St. Basil and Blessed Theodoret mentioned those informations? Could you give the title/sermon number, or a refference towards them? I'd really love to find the prime sources.
Hi bojan I have a question. I heard a little while ago that orthodox don’t believe in original sin, at least not in the way people think you do(I know y’all believe that the snake made Adam and Eve sin of course). Can you or someone explain to me this? Thanks lol sorry I’m not to familiar when it comes to orthodox and original sin
Original sin is a Western theology. It is credited to St. Augustine and expounded about in his work, "The City of God". The gist is that original sin is an inherited flaw of the flesh; because we are born flesh we are born in sin. This is why baptism is so deeply stressed about in both Roman and Protestant circles; the Methodist founder himself believed babies went to hell for want of baptism. In the East, sin is not something that is inherent but something that you do carelessly; a passion that mutates with a little self-nurturing into the crippling sins we know all to well. Since our fallen natures make sinning so easy, to an Eastern mind there was no point in forcing some logistical, materialistic reasoning for sin being an endemic thing for humanity. It is a fantastic example of Roman literalness and litigation for all things, solving a problem that did not exist. Orthodoxy does believe that the first man dies in baptism and a new creation in Christ is born out of the baptismal waters, but unlike a lot of Protestant traditions, there is no ironclad guarantee that baptism means you are saved; your salvation in the East is a daily walk, not a once-and-done affair, again rendering the entire debate about Original Sin moot. Jesus took care of all sin with his victory, so why quibble over the how or why? Let Christ carry that burden for you and let yourself worry about other things.
Hey there, when I pray, I first perform ablution and then make the sign of the Cross and pray, but I also make the sign of the Cross when I am worried or afraid. Is there any requirement to be clean (such as performing ablution, washing hands and feet) before making the sign of the cross? Thank you!
I think it’s in Lactantius’ “On the Manner in Which the Persecutors Died,” or maybe Eusebius’ “Life of Constantine,” but it’s mentioned that Christians in Emperor Galerius’ court crossed themselves during a pagan ritual and “ruined” it, which basically started the Great Persecution when Galerius, as the crybaby he is, whined about it to Diocletian.
This may be an ad hoc explanation, but I've thought that's because Christ talks in the Last Judgment first to those who are at His right hand, and then to those who are at His left.
I'm catholic too, but I was raised by Mexican parents and grandparents. We were taught to cross our index finger and thumb to make a cross. The middle finged, ring finger and pinky stand for the trinity. After we cross ourselves we kiss the crossed fingers.
But Bojan arent we equal before the lord? Then why can't we bless others with higher ranks or elders? They should consider themselves infront of the holy lord, not before a younger person
Do the people on the hunt for Christian blood HAVE to be Islamists? -- A voice from across the ocean, amid the collapse of the U.S. into godless fascist tyranny....🙏🕯☦
True they can also be communists , atheists , pagans , even some so called "christian" "groups" (islamic and communist "incidents" are just the most violent and most recent)
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My favourite relative was 95 when she died. She was a bad tempered battleaxe, during WWII she made tanks and lost an eye from a welding accident. She was a hard women but a faithful one. During her final week on earth, she was bedridden and did not speak or eat or do anything except repeatedly make the sign of the cross, slowly and reverently over her body. Her final battle, glory to God!
Wow, God bless her, sounds like a hard woman. Those often have the strongest faith in the end
@Lupa Nova I was with her as she died. And I am curious as to why you want to think it isn't a true tale
@Gillian May her memory be eternal.
@Lupa Nova so smug, rational and self-assured....... wait until it is your turn
This is beautiful
>"Greek, the most Serbian of all languages"
>doesn't elaborate futher
>moves on
Sigma as hecc.
John 19:22
@@BibleIllustrated Што писах, писах - sometimes Bojan, you take the biscuit
Ah, yes, all things are Serbian. 😄 Just like St. Nicholas of Zhicha (Velimirović), every Saint was Serbian, even Bulgarian and Greek Saints, they were really Serbian too! 😉
If Jesus Christ had value, then why are the Jews not buying it for 2000 years?
I have to do the sign of the cross with my left hand because it's the only one I have. I have had a few tell me not to because you can only use a right hand.
They recieve a prompt eyeroll from me.
Once I asked a woman if she would be my permanant caregiver and follow me around to bless me with the cross at my need since she forbade me to do so, and she quickly, stuttered walked backwards and got a fear stricken look on her face.
Ahhhhh.... good times.
If you're ever persecuted for being handicapped, offer your persecuter a job taking care of you. They will quickly vanish into thin air.
Chronic migraine here - exacerbated dramatically by incense (among other things). I have been known to intimate to critics of my at-home church observances that I'd rather watch the livestream than throw up on the icons.... Good for you! 🙏🕯☦
Granny is my favorite character in this lore... she reminder me of some of the babushkas you see in Greek small community churches. When I was in Greece there were almost only grannies in the church. When they found out I wanted to convert they became so happy and I was on great terms with them the whole vacation. Can't wait to see them again
If I had a dollar for every time I've triggered a wave of people making the sign of the cross in church, when I was just adjusting my eyeglasses, I could sponsor infinite more videos.
I wish I referenced that in the video!
Omg I totally know what you mean!
Hahaha! I'm sure I have done that when someone adjusted their glasses during liturgy. 🤦😜
@@BibleIllustrated
If Jesus Christ had value, then why are the Jews not buying it for 2000 years?
I think it would be best to ask in a more recent video@@Stupidityindex
I live in a rural small town in the American South. Most people in my area don't know the Orthodox Church exists and all they know about Catholics is that their preacher told them Catholics are evil. When my family and I make the sign of the cross in public, we will often receive some very dirty looks. I actually love this. It feels to me like a signpost that I am on the right track. These looks are especially bad when praying before a meal with beer in front of me. Lol
I am as well. For God's sake, there is no Catholic or Orthodox or Protestant, no male or female, neither Jew or Greek for all are one in Christ
"We are called to witness Christ, but that does not mean that our faith has to be in your face"
Great advice for the Orthodox *online* and offline. Great advice for all Christians really, but extremely good advice for us Orthodox.
"If it's Holy and not bolted to the floor" Love it!
I’ve heard that, during times of persecution, some Armenians would make the sign with their tongue, closed in their mouth.
Really?
I want to thank you for your videos. I'm a Southern Baptist but the Lord has been guiding me me to the deeper truth found in Orthodoxy. I went to my first Divine Liturgy this past Sunday and it was amazing. Hopefully this time next year I'll be an Orthodox Christian.
So glad to hear this, it's terrific news! Move upwards! :)
Home beckons.☦️
Jesus Christ is God incarnate who came to earth to be born and live a perfect life, a sinless life. (He is one person of the Trinity, consisting of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; one God in three persons not three Gods.) Jesus then gave Himself up to be crucified and died to pay for the sins of the whole world. My sin, your sin, the sins of everybody. 3 days later He was resurrected. He now offers salvation to all who will turn from their sin and trust Him to save them from eternity in hell. He paid our debts because we couldn't, but we have to trust Him to do it. I cannot add anything to what He has done (not even baptism). I cannot do enough good to take even a year off of my death sentence in hell. The sentence is a never ending one, because I have sinned against an eternal God. But Jesus took my punishment, He saved me, and offers that same salvation to you. I am praying for you.
Seth?!!!
I’ve been Orthodox for like 2 years at this point and didn’t know you were suppose to go left to right when blessing something! Thanks!
My two favorite cross making techniques: 1) the Greek Bouzouki player: such a rapid and small movement of the hand, making the sign three times in succession, to appear you are playing an invisible musical instrument. 2) the Russian Cosmonaut: the very methodical and extremely curvy arm motion, as if you are trying to simultaneously control your arm in zero gravity while having to navigate around your body's bulky space suit.
Hahahaha God bless Brother
😅😅😅🙏🕯☦
Too accurate haha
I love your sense of humor.
Aww thank you! :)
9:06 “Saudi Mosque of Salafi Al-Kablooey.”
Yeah. Perhaps not the place to do a big ol’ cross to show off.
I love how everyone agrees on making the sign of the cross whenever we spot an emergency vehicle
I remember once I was carried off by a large demon. He said the sentence of death given to all people was to come upon me.
I resigned myself to the mercy of God and made the sign of the cross. You never saw anything so big run away from something so small..
I’ve heard of people imprisoned making the sign in secret with their tongues in their mouth when doing so normally would cause the guards to beat them.
Not Orthodox myself, but your vids always bless, educate, and help me appreciate my siblings in Christ---and this one especially today. Don't really know how to put it into words, but it blessed me more than usual. I learned an appreciation for the sign of the cross at my yia-yia's funeral. She was protestant, but my grandfather returned to his Greek Orthodox roots and found a community when she got dementia. A
This is one of your best videos so far. The quality of jokes and funny references, the drawings and the information presented... Perfection!
Thank you so much! :)
Thanks for clearing up my queries about pipe organs.
2:36 my sides ache out of laughing so hard.
Apparently my priest recently made the sign of the cross WITH a newly illumined baby in hand. So you could add blessing folks with babies to your list, maybe🤣
Always enjoy watching your videos, glad you managed to reference some Catholicism in your images as we also bless ourselves, albeit in the opposite direction to the E. Orthodox.
I'm a Catholic and have always made the sign of the cross left too right but I never knew about the three fingers and the two down that was never explained so Thankyou very much.
Eyy Bojan's back!
Yuppp
@@BibleIllustrated Bojan, I was reading genesis a few days ago and remembered chapter 18, is it a reference to the trinity? since Abraham called the three men "LORD", or are the three visitors just angels?
@@James-en1ob They are seen as a reference to the Trinity by the Church. In fact, the icon of the three angels is called 'the Old Testament Trinity' and is considered a rare canonical depiction of the Trinity Itself.
I cross myself also before going on a road trip or taking off during a flight
You are hilarious! You always brighten my day in every video. May God bless your soul.❤❤❤
I love this channel and still learning so much hopefully I'll feel comfortable becoming Orthodox
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My family is very devoted to their protestant church (CCB christian congregation in Brazil), but i have been watching a lot of videos about christianity, and the history of the church, i discovered eastern orthodoxy and i was fascinated, i dove deeper and im planning to convert when i get older, i told my cousin (who is a musician in the CCB) about my plans and he had the usual objections (saints are idolatry and other stuff), and he said the cross is bad because it killed Christ, i tried to explain it symbolizes his ressurection but he didnt agree, this video has helped me to understand more about the sign of the cross, and i will use the information here to, maybe, convert him :)
TL:DR: thanks for the video i will use it to debate my protestant cousin 🙏☦️
Sofi Al Kablooey and the pipe organ story were really funny. Thank you for the video brother
Very informative. Thank you!
Wonderful video to wake up to!
Outstanding
You didn't mention the super duper ultimate secret Romanian technique of doing the sign of the cross with your tongue.
One African Orthodox priest was doing that to the baptized kids. There is a video on UA-cam.
I'm always making the sign of the cross. I always tap my heart or ķiss my hand as if to send a kiss to Our Lord. That's just me.
Amen ☦️☦️☦️
Thank you for sharing this lovely explanation of this!
Always! Glad you liked it!
@@BibleIllustrated wow I got a reply from the creator of this video thank you so much! The Orthodox Christian faith truly is a beautiful faith!
@@SoniaSephia It truly is! I try to get to most of the comments, but there's a lot! :D
good to see that you are back
Your channel is entertaining and educating at the same time. Maybe nowadays with forklifts, Organs will be allowed back in the Church, provided their is a forklift on hand.
Very nice video :) God bless you!
Whenever = all the time lol. I love my Lord Christ
2:36 in b4 Lipovian comes screeching
Thankyou, very well explained.
Sufi el Khablooi? Nice.
Okay but what about putting your hand over your heart when you finish doing the sign of the cross? It's just a custom, but is there any opinion on it either way?
When should we cross ourselves three times over and when should we just do it once?
And how was Thessalonica?
1) Never heard of putting your hand over your heart in these 17 years of being a practicing Orthodox, curious to know more
2) This is something some people do but is generally done for prayers done in threes (such as the Trisagion)
3) Podcast episode on this coming soon! :-)
@@BibleIllustrated
1. Maybe I expressed it wrong, or maybe it's just a Greek thing, but at the end of the cross people seem to put a palm over their heart:
ua-cam.com/video/dUXNHzjWL68/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TrisagionFilms
2. And nice it looks I've been overcrossing myself, thanks for helping this fat man do less movement :D
@@petrosdorizas6814 I’ve been asking around. It seems only to be a Greek thing.
Among many Spanish speaking countries after they make the sign of the cross they make a small cross with their thumb and index finger and kiss it.
I attended a Greek church for a while, and they always laid their hand over their heart afterwards.
Edited to add; they always signed 3 times. I never once saw anyone make the sign only once during service.
6:54 Jesus OHW to lift a church in the sign of the cross
Is it okay for me to step back and cross myself in front of the Chalice after receiving The Eucharist? My Priest doesn't seem to mind.
your priest probably doesn't have time to object (there's a line behind you, and at that moment if his wife didn't say her name he'd probably not remember it) or the inclination to stop an act of piety by people who have so few (nothing personal! ) or even see you. remember! he is holding Christ in his hands!
frankly, it's a miracle of grace that we don't just burst into flame.
@@thedreadtyger I see, thank you!
@@thedreadtyger In one of the orders of preparation for Communion (I'm kinda new; I think that's how to describe it!?), my favorite phrase is something like, "I, being grass, partake of fire; strange wonder, I am not consumed" ... (I'd look it up to quote it exactly, but I'm traveling, and it's 1200 miles away...!) 🥴
@@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098 💛
"Effects do not stack" is very funny game reference , but then , why people repeat the sign 3 or more times during the service?
In my school one girl brought a box with prayer robes and Orthodox Icons and she placed them on a table and the girls gathered to have a prayer circle because we had a test from pshysics,and its pretty common to see people crossing entering the class when we have a test,btw im serbian
I wonder if it started right to left, or left to right.
As far as I have researched, it was originally right to left, but then it was changed in the West for some reason. And I have also heard this from the mouth of a Catholic priest, so I will believe this theory holds water
This might be a silly question, I am planning to go to a Orthodox church soon and wanted to make sure i had this right. In all Orthodox churches is it right shoulder then left, I am going to a Serbian Orthodox Church named after a saint.
Not a silly question!
Yes all eastern orthodox (greece, russia, OCA, Serbia, ukraine, antioch, jerusalem, Bulgaria, etc) Christians do right shoulder to left. You may encounter some "oriental orthodox" (coptic, armenian, ethiopian) Christians doing the opposite, but keep in mind they are not orthodox.
Also, did you end up going? God bless
Thank you very much for your posts. Are you a priest or a deacon?
Your organ comment was comedic gold!
Haha thanks! :-)
@@BibleIllustrated too bad the Greek Orthodox in the states have Protestantized themselves and brought in the use of organs. It’s such a distraction during worship.
@@michaelcaza6766 they're still comparatively rare from what I have noticed
0:44 I though the two symbolized Adam and Eve who sinned
I go to an Old Rite Russian Orthodox Church that uses the two finger version of the sign of the cross.
Why did I identify the guy at 5:50 with Zakir Naik?
I am soo glad that you treated this topic, especially for patristic refferences. But...on which works St. Basil and Blessed Theodoret mentioned those informations? Could you give the title/sermon number, or a refference towards them? I'd really love to find the prime sources.
Hi bojan I have a question. I heard a little while ago that orthodox don’t believe in original sin, at least not in the way people think you do(I know y’all believe that the snake made Adam and Eve sin of course). Can you or someone explain to me this? Thanks lol sorry I’m not to familiar when it comes to orthodox and original sin
Just google ‘Orthodoxy and original sin’
Original sin is a Western theology. It is credited to St. Augustine and expounded about in his work, "The City of God". The gist is that original sin is an inherited flaw of the flesh; because we are born flesh we are born in sin. This is why baptism is so deeply stressed about in both Roman and Protestant circles; the Methodist founder himself believed babies went to hell for want of baptism. In the East, sin is not something that is inherent but something that you do carelessly; a passion that mutates with a little self-nurturing into the crippling sins we know all to well. Since our fallen natures make sinning so easy, to an Eastern mind there was no point in forcing some logistical, materialistic reasoning for sin being an endemic thing for humanity. It is a fantastic example of Roman literalness and litigation for all things, solving a problem that did not exist. Orthodoxy does believe that the first man dies in baptism and a new creation in Christ is born out of the baptismal waters, but unlike a lot of Protestant traditions, there is no ironclad guarantee that baptism means you are saved; your salvation in the East is a daily walk, not a once-and-done affair, again rendering the entire debate about Original Sin moot. Jesus took care of all sin with his victory, so why quibble over the how or why? Let Christ carry that burden for you and let yourself worry about other things.
Father panagiotis papageorgiou has a good answer to this on the channel trisagion. Search for his name and it should come up!
6:02 Wait, isn't it supposed to be right to left since we make the sign of the cross over OURSELVES from left to right.
Oops, yep, you're an Oriental. So am I, actually.
You mixed it up. I'm an Oriental too.
Hey there, when I pray, I first perform ablution and then make the sign of the Cross and pray, but I also make the sign of the Cross when I am worried or afraid. Is there any requirement to be clean (such as performing ablution, washing hands and feet) before making the sign of the cross? Thank you!
Umm... what?
ask an Orthodox priest. also no
Here from the cruelty of not praying video. Clearly, Saint Granny was the one whose prayers stopped those ten people from going on the Brazil flight.
Only at the Judgment we'll know the true power of grandmothers' prayers! :)
Wait...some say that it goes : forehead, CHEST, right, left shoulder. And some say :forehead, navel, right, left shoulder. Which one is correct?
I have a guy I stand next and he does it a lot so I do it a lot with him
So what is the right way, two fingers or three fingers?
Can I do the sign of the cross before a max lift pr?
Sure
You are subbed to Razor fist I see! That alone proves how devoted to the truth you are my sibling in Christ. I pray you become canonized haha :D
I thought many of the new martyrs DID seek out martyrdom with the blessing of their Fathers.
I think it’s in Lactantius’ “On the Manner in Which the Persecutors Died,” or maybe Eusebius’ “Life of Constantine,” but it’s mentioned that Christians in Emperor Galerius’ court crossed themselves during a pagan ritual and “ruined” it, which basically started the Great Persecution when Galerius, as the crybaby he is, whined about it to Diocletian.
why do you make the sign from right to left?
It was always done that way
This may be an ad hoc explanation, but I've thought that's because Christ talks in the Last Judgment first to those who are at His right hand, and then to those who are at His left.
Wait Theodoret is a saint?
Hello, I'm late 😅
Just a remark, Theodoret of Cyrus isn't a saint, his works were condemned in the 5th ecumenical council.
based and Trinity pilled
We Catholics believe power of the sign in the cross.but we use all fingers.
I'm catholic too, but I was raised by Mexican parents and grandparents. We were taught to cross our index finger and thumb to make a cross. The middle finged, ring finger and pinky stand for the trinity. After we cross ourselves we kiss the crossed fingers.
"whenever you feel a temptation come on"
-shows a dinosaur
Bojan my friend, what did you mean by this? 😂😂😂
It's how I draw Satan :D
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Oriental orthodox do it from the left to right
It was adopted without any issue... move along. 🤣
But Bojan arent we equal before the lord? Then why can't we bless others with higher ranks or elders? They should consider themselves infront of the holy lord, not before a younger person
Do the people on the hunt for Christian blood HAVE to be Islamists? -- A voice from across the ocean, amid the collapse of the U.S. into godless fascist tyranny....🙏🕯☦
True they can also be communists , atheists , pagans , even some so called "christian" "groups"
(islamic and communist "incidents" are just the most violent and most recent)