You're missing the point and their approach to exploring rock music. They mentioned it multiple times in many videos. One: they are going for a deeper dive. This is just to skim the surface. Karl's Picks aren't based off of his favorite or the most popular or any specific item. They're picked because they represent a point that he wants to make about the era and the evolution.
@@steveh7108 You skim by doing major moments during the decade, not minor stuff. If I was forced to pick what represented the 70s evolution it would be David Bowie for Glam Rock and The Ramones or The Sex Pistols for Punk. Amy has already done Led Zeppelin and Queen, so there's no reason to retread them.
The comments are hilarious. What a bunch of precious people all over a classical musician listening to 2 songs. They can pick whatever and analyse. She is enjoying her journey
When rock became heavy metal in the 70s that was a very interesting time for music indeed.I can’t stress how important Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple were to that genre of music.
Yep, it's not for nothing that Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple are - and for quite a while now have been - often referred to as the "Unholy Trinity of British Hard Rock and Heavy Metal".
Hi Amy, thanks for all your hard work. I hope you are well and your pregnancy being kind. I am concerned about this programme and have some suggestions. This analysis centred on the Americas. That area is vital and should be considered. But it ignored the UK and Europe. In the 1960s / early 70s many UK bands were greatly influenced by the USA - blues, tock-and-roll, etc. But the bands of which you talked in this episode had little impact here. There were heard of, sometimes respected but, perhaps, too overtly southern-US to make a big impact either in themselves or by influence. The big-hitters here before punk were The Beatles (because their influence continues to this day), The Rolling Stones still had much mileage, David Bowie, Elton John, Black Sabbeth, Led Zep, Yes (in terms of Prog), The Who continued, Deep Purple, Jeff Beck, Queen emerged (and are still very important and influential, of course), Pink Floyd continued their ascent to greatness. The German scene (Kraut-Rock) took-off - especially with Tangerine Dream and Kraftwerk. Holland's Focus became influential, too. I am sure I have missed some important acts but that's a sample. When Punk (1970s) and then the New Wave (1980s) emerged rock was re-invigorated. But this look at the 1970s omits far more than it includes. I think I heard you say you would add to this view of the 1970s. I hope so. Your drummer seems a very decent chap but I do think you should talk to Rick Beato (he's on You Tube) or even Doug from the Daily Doug (again on YT) - they would offer different perspectives. All the best. Take care. Cheerio.
Karl, Since you're introducing Amy to Southern Rock, may I suggest the band that "Southern Rock" was coined after. The Allman Brothers Band. In March 1971, they recorded their live album, "at Fillmore East". Among the great songs on the double album (actually triple counting the carryover to their next album, "Eat A Peach"), is the eternal blues classic, "Whipping Post". 22+ minutes of blues that takes you (mostly instrumentally) through the pain of heartbreak. The dual lead/rhythm guitars of Duane Allman and Dickey Betts plus Gregg Allman's soulful voice takes you through a variety of emotions from rage to exhaustion. I think Amy will enjoy their mix of blues, rock and jazz.
I'd love to be with Amy when she's stopped in her tracks in the aisle at Walgreens as she recognizes the first notes of Sweet Home Alabama or My Sharona 😊
I've never ever considered Sharona as being New Wave. I'd associate bands like Cars or Joy Division with that. Sharona for me was always rather something like schoolboys rock. Bit similar vibe like Sweet Home Alabama. Could be played very well after each other in a pub.
So, the short '45 radio version was established in the '60s. Songs like Light My Fire, In a Gadda de Vida, Sunshine of your love or any song that I actually liked that came on the car radio. In my memory, it marked the legitimizing of what we called underground music, coming from obscure FM stations to the mainstream.
...as an instrument repair guy at a large music store near St. Louis years ago, no matter what instrument I repaired (guitar, bass, synth, brass, woodwind, violin, etc.), the first thing I played on it, and to bug the other employees, was My Sharona...🍻
The drummer is the foundation, but the bass is the one that holds everything together (Rhythm, Harmony & Melody). Thats why Ella Fitzgerald's advise to singers was "Listen to the Bass". She even married one, haha.
The teacher seems to know his stuff, but the discussion of 45s vs 33s was odd given that the discussion was the early 70's. This was perhaps the only time in rock history in which 33s supplanted the 45 as the more important medium of rock. In fact one gets the development of a new type of radio station, AOR for album oriented rock, without which a band like Led Zeppellin could never have been the band of the 70s. As seemed likely from the choices of songs for the 70's, this history skirts this major development in rock. We get that My Sharona is calling back to the sixties, but no suggestion of what it is skipping in the 70s. There was a promise that progressive rock will be filled in in the future. But that seems to get backwards what was driving things in the 70s and what was also there. On a different note, the Iron Maiden t-shirt reminded me of how odd it is that she has listened to so much heavy metal, and yet has not heard Iron Maiden yet. I guess that is a sign that her rock teacher is not picking her heavy metal entries. And it is stills strange that, (unless I missed it in which case there is nothing strange) that there has not been a Rolling Stones song on the channel yet. It is such an obvious reference in rock that the teacher throws it out as if everyone knows who they are and their importance. But as far as I can tell the Rolling Stones haven't come up yet.
You see folks, Karl did have a point to why he chooses the songs that he does. Not necessarily his favorite or the biggest hits, they are to represent the points he is trying to make. I think he's doing a great job.
@@dr.alimpije511 it's his point that he wanted to make. You are ridiculous😄 It was his point he wanted to make and his choice in order to make that point. What are you part of the thought police? Did he have an inappropriate thought in your opinion?😂
@@dr.alimpije511 Hook and groove. Are there better songs? Absolutely. Are there clearer examples where you won't get excessively distracted from those ideas? Maybe. Maybe not. Am I glad he's picking these so we can possibly get longforms of the really impressive stuff? Oh yes.
i can't understand that why no one mention the king crimson. they really have a heavy effect on most 70s rock genres, actually most of genres after the 70s. their song "21st century schizoid man" is a something else that you can absolutely see the progression which rock to metal. besides it's the one of the first song of the metal history even before the black sabbath.
I totally agree, they opened the road to virtuosity also. They were much more metal then Black Sabbath ever was, and they were followed by Yes, genesis, Van der Graaf, Gentle Giant and so many others.
I am *really* enjoying watching your journey, Amy. I am very perplexed by Karl's choices, but that doesn't take away from how great this series is. I just don't know that you're really getting a good picture of what those of us listening to it at the time would have called rock. I'm the exact age as Karl, so perhaps in Canada things were different. As an example, although *technically* it can be labeled "folk-rock" I don't know anyone who would call Simon & Garfunkel rock. It certainly wasn't played on rock radio (pop radio, yes, not rock). My Sharona made absolutely no impact on the rock scene - it was a one-hit-wonder. Meanwhile, groups like Van Halen were tearing up the 70s. Doing the 60s without at least The Rolling Stones or Jimi Hendrix or Led Zeppelin to go along with the Beatles, and no Van Halen in the 70s is quite peculiar. Again though, I love watching you discover new music and eagerly await each new video. If he does the 90s without "Smells Like Teen Spirit" - which hit the music world like a bomb and dramatically changed rock music for generations - I'm going to be scratching my head even more.
I don't understand Carl's choices either. Absolute head scratcher. And yet as someone who has no formal training or music education at all I still appreciate his discussion with Amy. He seems nice and since its all so subjective I am just happy for the excellent thoughtful content on UA-cam. This sight is kind of like a musical book club. I love it.
OMG how do you sum up the 70s in 5 or 10 songs. So many 100s of classic artists, bands, styles and albums from Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Bob Marley, Neil Young, The Eagles, Santana, Steely Dan, Sex Pistols, ZZ Top, Deep Purple etc etc etc
He only picks his favorites, in case you haven't guessed. He hasn't even had her listen to the Shaggs yet. Nirvana was heavily influenced by them and one of the rock founding fathers Frank Zappa loved them. They should spend at least a month discussing how the Wrecking Crew was the most important group that most people have never heard of but listen to them play all the time. I could take her down so many rabbit holes. She did 1 Sgt Pepper song, don't think that one had bass but McCartney was desperately(in vain)trying to imitate Carol Kaye's sound with his broken bass(he never had someone swap out the nut for a left handed version until at least past Let It Be). He said his fingers bled. The Wrecking Crew had more hits than all the groups she's reviewed so far ha!
Singer song writers were also very popular in the early seventies. Really can't pick two songs that fairly summarize any decade, let alone the seventies.
@@susanaltman5134 I remember watching an interview or musical discussion with the Clancy Brothers who Dylan idolized among other Greenwich Village type like Jack Elliot but Liam was like when they were 1st signed they thought Columbia wanted them. They later found out that Columbia was just collecting and marketing all manner of ethnicity. So there's a whole dirty business aspect to it too. Some of those singer songwriter types are pretty curious. Many of them are connected. For example Carol King was one of the greatest R&B(Rhythm and Black(blue)songwriters ha! She of course was good friends with James Taylor who aurally heard John Lennon assassinated and even bumped into his killer earlier, mk-ultra written all over it. So I agree there was quite a lot of variety in the 70's. Should be real interesting when she listens to Parliament Funkadelic or even Boston. If I'm not mistaken Tom Shultz grew up with a classical background before he moved onto cocaine and rock. Solo to More than a Feeling is classical.
Bullshit. "The Beatles" opened the door for all that followed. The 1970s was decadent self-indulgence and failed effort to reach the high bar set by "The Beatles".
I agree. All kinds of greatness there from Ozzy, Alice Cooper, Lynyrd Skynryd, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Eagles, ACDC and many, many more. Bands like Bad Company, Kansas etc. If they are looking for some greatness to appear after the 70's, they've missed the boat already. Obviously there are fire bands later and even now, today. But it was peek in the 70's like you said. Late 60's too (The Doors etc). Classical folks seem to need to wrap their head into a different expectation than approaching Classical. Sweet Home Alabama repetitive? Well, sure I guess. But the piano parts, the guitar solo which she looks at the camera and speaks 'I guess it's guitar time', the backing vocals. Repetitive wouldn't have occurred to me because it all sounds so perfect. But technically, sure. It's repetitive I guess.
@@stanleymyrick4068 Of course it's repetitive. Rock music is "democratic". That means that much of it is temporary, throw-away. Junk. And the audience, being mostly uneducated in music, call anything they LIKE "classic," or "legendary," or "greatness," or even "genius". Few of them have bothered to look at where their "great" music came from, so they lack any knowledge or sense of the history. "The Doors" are depressing; but I guess that's what some believe is actually "great". And Jim Morrison musta been a "tortured genius poet" because he drank himself to death. The 1970s are known mostly for bombast -- play really loud in place of quality -- eliminate all dynamics. And "My Sharona" is somehow a standout?
What! They don't want to hear it on the harp?? I'd love to hear the beginning of Roundabout by YES on the harp. Would you do that please on the next 70's round?
I would also point out that, not only the ‘45, but the portable record player, had a HUGE impact on teenagers. We could go to the privacy of our bedrooms and listen to rock music, without our parents supervision. Good times roll!!
And don't forget the tapes. I don't know how they were called in English, but in France we said Mini-cassettes. And it allowed us to exchange music, record songs on radios, etc.
If you listen to the original power trio -- Cream -- you'll see that Ginger Baker often doesn't have a snare at 2 & 4 (in Sunshine of Your Love, there's no snare at all for much of the verses). And, of course, White Room throws some 5/4 in as well as 4/4. And Baker (like Keith Moon) went with a two bass drum kit.
Speaking of New Wave, and I know you've mentioned having never been to a rock concert before, a happy medium might be watching Stop Making Sense, a concert movie from 1984 which consists of a full concert by the Talking Heads, one of the seminal New Wave bands.
Absolutely! Best live concert movie ever made. Was reluctantly dragged to see it in the theater when it came out - and then gleefully went back two more times.
"Punk" and "New Wave" occurred at the same time. The difference was that "New Wave" tended to be sophisticated as compared with three-chord basic "Punk".
The part at 35:20 talking about the audience clapping on 1 and 3 cracked me up. It reminded me of a great video of the amazing guitarist Tommy Emmanuel called "AMAZING BLUES GUITAR!!! MUST SEE!!" H starts out the song joking to the audience: "It's a 12 bar blues in the key of E and if you want to sing along please don't, you'll ruin the whole thing." 😁
this is exactly why I am a patreon, is simply wonderful, and I grew up with this music, is such great fun to watch someone discover what many take for granted
Or Deep purple, or even punk music. I know they are going to go more in depth in a future episode but even this surface look of the 70s missed out on everything essential that happened.
Well, I guess she did already listen to some Led Zeppelin, and some Black Sabbath. I'm guessing that they're going in a different direction for now, and will come back to it later. Rock and Roll is so vast!
@@mikek0135 I don't understand their selection process. Neither the GOGO's or Motely Crew were long term chart toppers and the trend in the 80's was mostly Stadium rock like Boston, Foreigner,and U2
@Paul Harris: Yeah, I can only guess why he chose the Go Gos, but Motley Crue seemed like a good choice. Motley Crue exemplified the hair bands of the 80's, which were extremely popular in the '80's. I agree with her learning about the Glam Rock of the time - it was HUGE! Obviously, we'd choose other bands to highlight, but she chose Carl (Karl?), and I guess we let him do his thing. I'M not gonna get upset about it - everyone gets their own journey.
According to Paul McCartney, The Beatles' 'Good Day Sunshine' baffles some of the world's best classical composers. I would like to see if Amy agrees with Paul's statement.
@@markrinehart8813 I don't think she's acting like most reaction channels. She really has absolutely no perspective. She's got tons of listening to do and movies to watch. She also has to explore the history of technologies related to music. It's really a boat load. Daunting really....
@@BILLYMORGAN1971 I know she isn't doing a "reaction" channel, but it would be interesting to see if, being a classical musician, is baffled as Paul (the perfect) claims. Also, it would be interesting to see her analyze of the song. My guess is she wouldn't be "baffled" by it, and would have trouble analyzing it.
@@markrinehart8813 Would it be too much to ask her to watch Masque of the Red Death and then be told at the conclusion the red headed girl is Paul's Good Day Sunshine and for her to then listen to the song? :D One of the problems I would see is recording techniques that are foreign to classical recording artists. I just read through wikipedia's summary of the recording process. To me that's essential to understand the song or any pop song that was trying to be unique. The tape machine, various outboard gear like ADT(Automatic double track)and the layering are all part of the performance. I can picture her squinting too , wondering what a certain sound is or how something is being done by only a few people(5 I think).
This is a very odd intro to rock music. Two songs per decade and quite quirky choices at that. The doors, the stones, Jefferson airplane, pink Floyd, Dylan, Clapton, Hendrix,led zeppelin - all more important.
@@jcparker500 1) So he can talk about specific things: the hook and the groove with good, clear examples of both. 2) so those can be longform episodes 3) Any of those and you'd spend three hours breaking those apart 4) He's a drummer.
A lot of history to learn. When you get to a point of wanting to learn more about the Metal side of rock. There is a documentary called Metal Evolution. Well worth watching.
I though of a really gifted musician while listening to you guys talk about musical structure, Derek Paravicini and you may have heard of him. He is a musical savant who was born blind and with many severe mental and physical disabilities who cannot function in society without assistance but he is the most talented piano player I ever seen and heard. He can listen to for the first time any piece of music and and play that piece after only one listen - flawlessly! He can even play two pianos at once.
70s in rock music are a great experiment and birth of genres, the most interesting and important period of rock music. And there was one artist who was one of the most important in the 70's, the one who defined the beginning of the era by glam rock, influenced punk rock, art rock, post-punk and new wave - Bowie was that artist. In the retrospective of the 70's his name should be heard, without him it is impossible to imagine that era.
"And there was one artist who was one of the most important in the 70's, the one who defined the beginning of the era by glam rock, influenced punk rock, art rock, post-punk and new wave - Bowie was that artist." You have weird way of writing Bolan :D
Once more Karl is wrong. The Cars debuted a year earlier as a New Wave band. Blondie’s “Heart of Glass” was released in 1978 while “My Sharona” was released almost a year later. “Heart of Glass” was significant for future New Wave because it combined punk & disco into one thing- New Wave. But the real origin of the style has to go to an early CBGB band that was part of the punk scene but definitely didn’t quite fit into punk as it had elements of Art Rock too. The Talking Heads first charted in 1977 with “Psycho Killer.” Let’s not forget another charting early New Wave band whose first single was no. 1 in Canada in 1978… the B-52s with “Rock Lobster.” Some commentators are saying the Knack originated the New Wave style of narrow ties, coiffed hair, black suits, etc. No. They just copied what was already happening. Elvis Costello did all that in 1977 when “Allison” was released. He followed that with “Pump It Up” in 1978. The Knack were a flash in the pan act who copied earlier New Wave bands who not only preceded them but whose pre-Knack songs have the legs “My Sharona” didn’t and who had longer, more successful and influential careers in the 1980s. “My Sharona” was a catchy pop song in the New Wave style, I admit that. But what Karl is confusing as importance is actually the hype of the record companies attempt to cash in on new music by trying to make us think they were the new Beatles. But they weren’t and a lot of us slightly older rockers knew it was just hype at the time. (I was 24.) That became even more obvious later in 1979 when one of the first UK punk bands, now New Wave, the Clash, released “London Calling,” which evaporated the hype as it was the real thing. I don’t get this elevation of the Knack into significance. I’d have selected “Psycho Killer,” “Rock Lobster,” “Allison,” “Just What I Needed,” “Heart of Glass,” or “London Calling” if I had wanted a song representing New Wave, mentioning the others I just listed and “My Sharona” while discussing the one I chose. Maybe the significance of the Knack is they got the attention of the pre-teen bubble gum crowd?
I found this conversation worth listening to, even those two particular songs are not high on my list. Karl is a professor of rock and I always learn something new. White audiences always clap on the one and the three, black audiences clap on the two and the four. I say this as a white guy Who has attended concerts of both kinds of audiences. The legendary Duke Ellington said that clapping on the one and the three was considered aggressive.
My Sharona has a more stylistic link to 1950's which is why he chose it as i understand his discussion. And its commercial success adds to significance.
@@Hartlor_Tayley I always get a bit of a chuckle when reaction channels get concerned that they have already covered all the great songs and bands of the 60s and 70s. I then think, no, you have barely scratched the surface. And that's on channels that have done several songs per week over multiple years. Very hard to run out of great songs and bands from this period.
The early 70s were mind blowing but I felt like it stagnated in 74-75 then exploded with creativity 76-79. Lynyrd Skynyrd was really great at first but after a few months of constantly hearing Free Bird on the radio, I was about to turn the radio off. My Sharona was a novelty song that I liked for a few listens.
I would say the 2020s are the most prolific, because today almost anyone can produce a song at their own studio for less than $1,000. I know lots and lots of bands today making recordings, back in the 70s I knew far fewer, but maybe that is because I am older and know a lot more people.
@@Hartlor_Tayley Also, when you look at the ordered list of certified record sales, this period (60s and 70s) dominates in terms of record sales. Granted, the longer you have been around the more you will sell more in total, but it shows these bands are still selling. Some reports have shown it is still the best selling period today (particularly when you extend the range into the 80s). Although, sorting these things out becomes more challenging with the predominance of music streaming and much of music being free (or very cheap) to listen to.
@@karlsloman5320 During my teenage years of the 70s everybody was listening to music, and many were playing music. There was no internet, UA-cam, video games or cell phones. People hung out and listened to music, or in many cases played music. Today people, if they even do physically hang out, are far more likely to be playing video games or be involved in other activities. I have also discovered in learning to play several different instruments, that the other folks (many young folks) I am learning with are most focused on leaning to play the songs from this period of the 60s through early 80s.
Even being born at 1998, one of my early introductions into music, especially rock, was through vinil. One of the vinils my father had was a compilation of famous songs, it had "Stay" by Oingo Boingo, "You gotta love someone" by Elton John, among others, but my favorite was "Still Loving You" by the Scorpions. But it had a catch: that version DIDN'T HAD THE GUITAR SOLO, it had a fade out on the chorus repeat, and still I used to love that song! Can you imagine my mind-blowing experience years later when I heard the complete version of the song???
I found this conversation worth listening to, even though those two particular songs are not very high on my list. Karl is a "professor of rock" and I always learn something new. And by the way Karl, I've got ten years age on you so I was in my teen years when Rock Around The Clock, et al came out. White audiences always clap on the one and the three, black audiences clap on the two and the four. I say this as a white guy who has attended concerts with both kinds of audiences. The legendary Duke Ellington once said that clapping on the one and the three was considered aggressive. BTW, is this going to continue when Amy becomes a mom? Reply
"Can you imagine going to a dance if it was only a drummer ..." - well, not exactly a *dance*, but I've been to Terry Bozzio's solo tours twice, and I'd go again (and again, and again)! However, Terry is a master of his craft, and a very personable and entertaining fellow - and I'm less interested in "average" music than in heightened creativity and boundary-pushing. To the point, though - as a bass & guitar player, I completely agree with Carl - the drummer is foundational to rock music from the simplest forms of blues-rock to the wildly creative excursions of prog and fusion!
The 45 vs album on the radio skips the whole album oriented radio -- so you're not listening to a 4 minute song on the radio, but you might be listening to the Allmans Mountain Jam, at over 33 minutes. It's probably an FM station, not AM -- but you'll find it in most major cities during the 70s.
To understand the main strands of rock music in the 1970s, the evolution of The Beatles in the 1960s is a good starting point: They moved from simple rock'n'roll emulations via more complex harmonisations to adding more of an orchestral approach and incorporating experimentation with (recording) technology, foreign traditions and psychedelic/trance-inducing sounds as well as heavier amplification/distortion. Most of the first half of the seventies' rock music AFTER The Beatles (some even up to the late seventies) would continue in the vein of becoming more virtuosic and using more technology (either to become more heavy and/or psychedelic, or to become more polished and sophisticated), with "long tracks" becoming more and more popular. Good examples from the late 60s to the late 70s would be on the heavy psychedelic side Iron Butterfly with "In a Gadda-da-vida" or Hawkwind with "The Psychedelic Warlords (Disappear in Smoke)" and on the progressive orchestral side The Alan Parsons Project with "The Fall of the House of Usher" or "I Robot". Some aspects of that Progressive Rock era Amy has been exposed to by listening to Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody". In the second half of the seventies, however, a lot of rock music either rediscovered its rawer roots or at least returned to a more immediate and visceral sound. Much of that early The Beatles' rawness from the early '60s would reappear in rock music during the punk era. Punk rock is the most important subgenre of rock that Amy has not been exposed to yet - it was a reaction to the (some would say: overly) polished sound, compositions and arrangements of many of the late sixties and early seventies rock bands (Psychedelic, Progressive, Hard 'n Heavy Rock), but this return to a more amateurish sound was also ushered in by musical instruments, amplifiers, effect pedals and recording equipment becoming cheaper and more widely available. What punk rock lacked in virtuosity, it made up by energetic performance and tonal as well as verbal attitude. A good starting point to understand the difference between early rock'n'roll and punk rock would be comparing the Elvis Presley version of "Viva Las Vegas" (rock'n'roll) with the Dead Kennedys version of the same song (punk rock). Good examples of a more naive, jamlike, innocently rough punk-rock charm would be the song "Sweet Suburbia" by the Skids, or the teenage / generational gap hymn "If the kids are united" by Sham 69. These were British bands. In the U. S. A., the Ramones were a crucial band. "Beat on the brat" and "I wanna be sedated" showcase their acidic, edgy, provocative and sarcastic attitude, while "I wanna be your boyfriend" and "Rockaway Beach" are a bit tamer than most of their oeuvre, but still very energetic and raw. Another strand of 70s Rock music that stayed true to or went back to the more immediate Rock'n'roll rawness, even already in the first half of the 70s, was Glam Rock: Good examples would be "Cum On Feel The Noize" by Slade, "Ballroom Blitz" by The Sweet, "20th Century Boy" by T. Rex, and "Suffragette City" by David Bowie.
I was lucky enough to see Lynard Skynard On their 1st tour in a small venue. They introduced this song as a song they just wrote. This was before they released it.
Amy, when you get to The Eagles you should listen to their «Wasted Time» song with «Wasted Time (Reprise)». But, if you wouldn't have enough time to listen to both, you must hear «Wasted Time (Reprise)» alone. It's just 1 minute 22 seconds.
Hi Amy . In the 70's Progressive rock was huge, You are covering some of it. Some lesser known but original groups were String Driven Thing and Rare Bird. If you get a chance have a listen. Love your show. Congratulations to you and V on your expectation. I hope all goes well.
I remember albums only costing $5 in the 70's. I thought it was outrageous when the prices went up to $7 later. My first was "A Hard Days Night". I was with my mom at a department store, a couple of years after that came out. I strayed away from her when the record rack caught my eye. She caught up with me, and said I could pick one out. I wasn't really into music yet. I was just 6. But I recognized their faces on the cover, after seeing them on TV, and I knew they were a big deal. That one was probably only $3 back then. The first album I bought with my own money, by myself, was Hawaii Five-O by The Ventures. THAT song from the TV show was the first to really trigger my love of music. That one really excited me. I became an avid music fan from that point on, and began to appreciate that Beatles album more after that. In the early 60's, I only had the 45 rpm types. Those were audio versions of my favorite cartoons. Like "Felix the Cat", and "Woody Woodpecker". They would play the theme song, then do a narrated version of the cartoon stories. Complete with sound effects, and the voices of the characters from the cartoons.
I would not have picked these two songs to represent the 1970's. So many better tunes to choose from. I'll list a few: Stairway To Heaven, Smoke On The Water , Carry On Wayward Son, War Pigs, Roundabout... Many More
This would have been the time to have Amy listen to David Bowie. I don't know what songs are going to be used for the 80s, because I'm just as confused as Amy when it comes to how all of this is suppose to mesh together and I know these decades. The song choices chosen so far for representing the decades should be apart of the deep dive section, because they don't represent the main stream. It was Punk that brought forth New Wave. All New Wave was was refined Punk under a new name so record companies could market it easier. I'm guessing the 80s choices will skip over the second British Invasion and Synth Rock.
I have given up on Amy ever listening to Bowie. Bowie defined the 70s. Instead we get crap like The Knack. Seriously? Feh. The most influential rocker in history (look it up) and they give us (yawn) southern rock and The Knack.
@@mirandak3273 I'm guessing they will be "Video Killed The Radio Star" by The Buggles, so Karl can talk about MTV, and RUN DMC's cover of Aerosmith's "Walk This Way" to introduce rap. There is a great video of The Buggles playing the song live after 20+ years of it's release everybody should check out.
Yeah, the 70's was all about experimenting. I'm hoping that Carl recognises the 80's were more compositional ... with synthesisers in the mix, you could layer tracks and build up the song. It's so much more than a reverb'd snare drum.
I’ve been involved in music my entire life, and I’ve never thought about clapping on the downbeat being a problem…. I mean, if everybody did it, it wouldn’t be, because that would be the norm! 🤷🏼♂️
I'm a bit lost of what the purpose of this episode? What were you trying to tell us about 70s rock? I don't see the connection of the "Boxer" and "Sweet Home Alabama" contextually. In my opinion Sweet Home is more connected to the Blues vs The Boxer which would be more connected with Louis Prima. As far as political issues in music of course that's all throughout music way before the 70s. Once you get into the music theory I have to turn you off. I'm not here for that class.
I'm a musician but have never played in an orchestral environment. I was wondering about the importance of the conductor. You were saying the conductor holds the musicians performance together. Doesn't the sheet music direct the players performance? I've always noticed when I've watched a classical performance that the musicians are always looking at their score and rarely at the conductor. I know it may seem like a stupid question but I'm curious.
If you're playing under a coductor, you learn to glance up from your part regularly or keep one eye on the conductor to keep you in time and in your place.
I believe it was Courtney Pine, the jazz clarinetist, who advised budding musicians to “Imitate to innovate.” Learn to play your favourite songs by your favourite players, and once you’ve mastered them, you can start twisting them, bending them and making your own things from them.
Too small a musical sample to ask Amy to say if patterns are shown. Thank you Karl, for explaining the Neil Young/Lynyrd Skynyrd background and alternate interpretations of 'Sweet Home Alabama'.
Basically, the 70s can be summarized in the following musical genres: Progressive rock, jazz rock (or fusion), hard rock, glam rock, electronic music, dance music (including soul, funk and disco), punk rock and what followed: post-punk and new- wave and finally soft rock which can include folk rock and country rock. Put the artists you like for each defined genre.
I may have to skip a few episodes so I don't have to listen to "southern" rock or its history from Karl. He's gone over the deep end waddling in inconsequential history that had nothing to do with real rock music. Rock was surely affected by the "South" but it was more of blues from Memphis an jazz from New Orleans. Those strains mixed in a spicy jamabalaya in Chicago, St. Louis, Kansas City, and other cities to flourish commerically. Even to this day, nobody thinks Leonard Skynyrd as anything like top 100 bands, much less have an impact worthy of this much time talking nonsense about Alabama, the song references. Putting aside the tragedy and sympathy, their music itself is boring, repetitive, and, as Amy said on first listen, simple.
78s were being made as late as 1958, alongside 45s; see, as example, Patti Page, Brenda Lee, Elvis Presley. My brother-in-law had a Sun Records 78 of Carl Perkins' "Blue Suede Shoes".
The 70's produced an explosion of creativity and produced some of the best rock music. The shear quantity that is still remembered and well known some 50 years later is testament to that. Will the music of today be remembered in the same way in 2073? I very much doubt it. Please listen to Karn Evil 9 by Emerson Lake and Palmer. It's rock, it's jaz, it's very complex but so very good. It maybe a bit long but I am sure a clasical musision like yourself will appeciate it. Probably the pinacle of prog rock and the musicianship is unbelievable.
Ok, I guess I understand where this is going. He's a drummer and focuses on rhythm. That's what drummers do. Hopefully a guitarist steps in and adds their part of the formula to the equation.
remember the star wars albums, one of them had a tie fighter, flash a light at it and it projects it in pseudo 3d above the surface. i've only ever seen it on youtube, but that was quite a trick.
35:13 / 35:42 - if you find it, I'd love to watch it, too! This also somehow reminds me of marching band, where we learned how to do what basically amounted to two steps in a row with the same foot, in order to reverse us (from RLRL to LRLR or whatever) if we had somehow gotten onto the wrong step.
A uni drumline near me had a piece called something like 'Screw the cheerleaders' - very simple 4/4, great groove, and then as soon as you've got the cheerleaders clapping along, 5/4, Then back to 4/4, then 6/8
@@MuriKakari I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly.... However, I'm reading this as sounding a bit mean-spirited, which seems... well, mean, I guess. I'm not a big fan of being mean.
@@DavidLindes Yeah, it probably was a bit mean. I was just thinking of it as a piece where time signatures changed to adjust / prevent clapping, but you're probably right. I do remember at the same game that I heard that the cheerleaders started multiple chants over the pep band, but I also don't know who started that hits.
When thinking about bands not yet mentioned... *Aerosmith* (1970- ) and *AC/DC* (1973- ) are obvious names, when I think huge, influencal and still widely known rock bands. Both in USA & internationally. Both have sold tens of millions of albums in USA alone. Introduction to *Nightwish* (1996- ) was kind of derailed... That metal-Mozart -thing was a major misunderstanding. Nobody from the band has ever claimed that song having anything to do with Mozart. For some fans, anything kind-of-classical-like is immediately Mozart. Some other fan else might say Beethoven, without ever listening Beethoven etc. Eventually, some name sticks, like metal-Mozart. Nightwish has had influences from several genres (folk, metal, pop, classical, opera/musical theater, movie scores...). They've had three very different vocalists, of which two have had also classical training.
Amy I'm a little confused, however I'm a member of the over sixties old geezer club. I think your only Analysing 2 prolific bands from each decade with your forensic Analysis. A bit minimalist. You may need to back track, at some stage, other wise I think you're only skating the surface of the popular pool of genius and talent that were! Its a shame you aren’t able to analyse another three per decade. I know there's only so much you can do, but like me there are probably quite a few in your audience who are disappointed. May I suggestion Altravox Vienna, released in the eighties, when you get there, I hope your audience agrees.
I tell everyone every week, that we are doing 2 from each decade, and then we go back to do a deep dive. For example I have 10 songs from just the Surf Rock period that we will look at. Right now I have just over 300 songs on the list, so three per decade is still not even scratching the scratching on the surface! LOL I could come up with 100 songs just from the Progressive Rock Genre, let alone all the other genres within the Rock Sphere. So yes, we will be getting into a lot more in the future, but one step at a time.
@@karlsloman5320 How about doing a parallel “Classical Virgin”. Maybe one ditty per millennium. Joking aside, I feel for you Karl. Maybe get Amy to do 100 tracks a day ??
@@ChristianRThomas yes a shame, he was a bit if a one hit wondelr but was good. Anyway stil worh Amy doing her thing, on this bsnd I would like to hear 10 cc I'm mandy fly me , Im not in love, dont hang up, wont feel the beifit, all briliant works of art that nees a great talent that is Elizabeth 🥂
@@tonytroiani6599 I'm not in Love is a cracking song, but would you pick it over Harry Nilsson doing Without You? That's a toss-up for me. I listened to 10cc's How Dare You quite recently and none of it was quite as good as I remembered from the time, including Mandy (which just about made the cut) and Art for Art's Sake. All a bit of a disappointment, rather, though Deceptive Bends held up better. I tended to think they were all a bit too easy and, dare I say it, trite. I really didn't think they were actually trying very hard.
Picking TWO songs from a decade and calling this "The History of Rock Music" goes light years beyond absurd. Please get back to individual song tracks...and PLEASE learn how to hold an album!
Well, I've listened to the video, but still no further forward on why those 2 tunes were picked for the 70s, apart from the riff repetition, which certainly wasn't the standard in the 70's. The Allman Brothers - Whipping Post would have been a better introduction to Southern Rock and My Sharona is the musical equivalent of a fishbone stuck in your throat. There's no innovation - it's recycling techniques that the Beach Boys and The Who did in the 60's. Picking these to represent the 70's is like choosing Frantisek Kotzwara as the classical music standard bearer - a composer, more known for his unusual death, then any of his works. Even his most known musical piece, The Battle of Prague, is so bad, it inflicts more pain on the listener than the real event did on the participants. Perhaps I've missed the point you were aiming for, or it's just not conveyed itself clearly...
@tele_gram_Virgin_Rock Wow really?? Unfortunately, at the moment, I'm in Nigeria, trying to meet the Prince ... maybe you know him ... Prince Fullakakka??
I don't need to use my Spidey senses to know that Blues Traveler Hook is coming up in the 80s or 90s. Not just because he kept talking about the hook, but also because he mentioned nonsensical words. There is no better demonstration to that then The Hook.
I've never bought a 45 ever. And when I bought albums in the 70s I've never even seen anyone buy one in a record store. I do remember listening booths though.
Conversational opinions may be interesting, but don't qualify as historical account. You mentioned Neal Young as a Canadian perspective, so apply that to Karl as well. Both opinions but not an accredited history. All who experienced this period have opinions of what occured.Find a qualified historian on par with Amy's brilliant musical analysis. Another opinion about The Who studdering was that it was a parody of excessive amphetamine use( popular in Liverpool at the time). See, everyone has opinions.
So who are the gatekeepers of accredited history. Does history also include interpretations of it such the the endlessly debated causes of WW1. Does history get revised as new facts are discovered or is it set in stone.
There should be a part of episode 4 - the 70´s. Listen to The Clash London calling, Straight to hell or Roch the casbah. Roger Daltrey studderd because he WAS nervause doing that song
The Who were the band of choice of Mods whose drug of choice was speed that could result in stuttering. So it was intentional to put it in, signaling to Mods the Who’s generation was Mods strung out on speed. It also happened that “Why don't you all f-f-f-fade away,” sounded like it was going to be “Why don't you all f-f-f-fuck off” before it resolved to “fade away.”
She definitely needs to listen to some punk. I'd say Clash for sure, but also Dead Kennedys and Ramones so she can see there's so much variety, even within sub-genres. As far as I understood the purpose of the stuttering in "My Generation," Roger Daltrey was singing as if he were a mod on speed (amphetamine).
I am waiting for when she is introduced to Bob Seger and his music style. Especially his live version of Turn The Page. One of the greatest lives songs of all time. But the 70s was one of the greatest times in music when you had a lot of great groups like the Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, and so many more.
This two songs choices i don't think is very representative of the 70s. The 70s was more revolutionary than that
Agree
You're missing the point and their approach to exploring rock music.
They mentioned it multiple times in many videos.
One: they are going for a deeper dive. This is just to skim the surface.
Karl's Picks aren't based off of his favorite or the most popular or any specific item. They're picked because they represent a point that he wants to make about the era and the evolution.
@@steveh7108 they’re doing a fine job. I just have a different perspective.
@@steveh7108 You skim by doing major moments during the decade, not minor stuff. If I was forced to pick what represented the 70s evolution it would be David Bowie for Glam Rock and The Ramones or The Sex Pistols for Punk. Amy has already done Led Zeppelin and Queen, so there's no reason to retread them.
The comments are hilarious. What a bunch of precious people all over a classical musician listening to 2 songs. They can pick whatever and analyse. She is enjoying her journey
When rock became heavy metal in the 70s that was a very interesting time for music indeed.I can’t stress how important Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple were to that genre of music.
Yep, it's not for nothing that Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple are - and for quite a while now have been - often referred to as the "Unholy Trinity of British Hard Rock and Heavy Metal".
@@Taylor.Dude. More like Link Wray. Jimmy Page loves Link Wray. Add a little bit of the Sonics to that mixed with Blues. There you go.
@user-uy4eo6ur3l Metal is a submission of hard rock and because it has so many subgenres of its own it became so genre
At some point heavy metal lost that blues-based aspect. That's how I differentiate rock from metal essentially.
PF also
Hi Amy, thanks for all your hard work. I hope you are well and your pregnancy being kind.
I am concerned about this programme and have some suggestions.
This analysis centred on the Americas. That area is vital and should be considered. But it ignored the UK and Europe. In the 1960s / early 70s many UK bands were greatly influenced by the USA - blues, tock-and-roll, etc. But the bands of which you talked in this episode had little impact here. There were heard of, sometimes respected but, perhaps, too overtly southern-US to make a big impact either in themselves or by influence. The big-hitters here before punk were The Beatles (because their influence continues to this day), The Rolling Stones still had much mileage, David Bowie, Elton John, Black Sabbeth, Led Zep, Yes (in terms of Prog), The Who continued, Deep Purple, Jeff Beck, Queen emerged (and are still very important and influential, of course), Pink Floyd continued their ascent to greatness. The German scene (Kraut-Rock) took-off - especially with Tangerine Dream and Kraftwerk. Holland's Focus became influential, too. I am sure I have missed some important acts but that's a sample. When Punk (1970s) and then the New Wave (1980s) emerged rock was re-invigorated. But this look at the 1970s omits far more than it includes. I think I heard you say you would add to this view of the 1970s. I hope so. Your drummer seems a very decent chap but I do think you should talk to Rick Beato (he's on You Tube) or even Doug from the Daily Doug (again on YT) - they would offer different perspectives.
All the best. Take care. Cheerio.
Another factor with 45s is the jukebox. Instead of buying for a dollar, you could play a song for a nickel, dime or quarter.
Three songs for a quarter. I used to do Deodata’s “2001,” Carly Simon’s “You’re So Vain,” and Alice Coopers’ “School’s Out” in 1973.
Handling the playing surface of vinyl records is stupid. The oils from one's fingers attracts and holds dust and grit.
Windex will fix it. Then put on the white gloves and pretend that its a Faberge egg.
@@lupcokotevski2907 One doesn't need to attempt to clean it if one doesn't mishandle it in the first place.
Karl,
Since you're introducing Amy to Southern Rock, may I suggest the band that "Southern Rock" was coined after. The Allman Brothers Band.
In March 1971, they recorded their live album, "at Fillmore East".
Among the great songs on the double album (actually triple counting the carryover to their next album, "Eat A Peach"), is the eternal blues classic, "Whipping Post". 22+ minutes of blues that takes you (mostly instrumentally) through the pain of heartbreak.
The dual lead/rhythm guitars of Duane Allman and Dickey Betts plus Gregg Allman's soulful voice takes you through a variety of emotions from rage to exhaustion.
I think Amy will enjoy their mix of blues, rock and jazz.
I'd love to be with Amy when she's stopped in her tracks in the aisle at Walgreens as she recognizes the first notes of Sweet Home Alabama or My Sharona 😊
,,,,Turn it up !!!! 🤪🤪🤪👍
I've never ever considered Sharona as being New Wave. I'd associate bands like Cars or Joy Division with that. Sharona for me was always rather something like schoolboys rock. Bit similar vibe like Sweet Home Alabama. Could be played very well after each other in a pub.
It wasn't, it was closer ( not the same ) to early Beatles. Simple pop.
Harry Connick Jr did the bar of 5/4 to get the hand claps on the 2 and 4.
So, the short '45 radio version was established in the '60s. Songs like Light My Fire, In a Gadda de Vida, Sunshine of your love or any song that I actually liked that came on the car radio. In my memory, it marked the legitimizing of what we called underground music, coming from obscure FM stations to the mainstream.
Weren't there shorter "radio" versions / 45's, of all those songs?
...as an instrument repair guy at a large music store near St. Louis years ago, no matter what instrument I repaired (guitar, bass, synth, brass, woodwind, violin, etc.), the first thing I played on it, and to bug the other employees, was My Sharona...🍻
The drummer is the foundation, but the bass is the one that holds everything together (Rhythm, Harmony & Melody). Thats why Ella Fitzgerald's advise to singers was "Listen to the Bass". She even married one, haha.
Yes Ray Brown
The teacher seems to know his stuff, but the discussion of 45s vs 33s was odd given that the discussion was the early 70's. This was perhaps the only time in rock history in which 33s supplanted the 45 as the more important medium of rock. In fact one gets the development of a new type of radio station, AOR for album oriented rock, without which a band like Led Zeppellin could never have been the band of the 70s.
As seemed likely from the choices of songs for the 70's, this history skirts this major development in rock. We get that My Sharona is calling back to the sixties, but no suggestion of what it is skipping in the 70s. There was a promise that progressive rock will be filled in in the future. But that seems to get backwards what was driving things in the 70s and what was also there.
On a different note, the Iron Maiden t-shirt reminded me of how odd it is that she has listened to so much heavy metal, and yet has not heard Iron Maiden yet. I guess that is a sign that her rock teacher is not picking her heavy metal entries. And it is stills strange that, (unless I missed it in which case there is nothing strange) that there has not been a Rolling Stones song on the channel yet. It is such an obvious reference in rock that the teacher throws it out as if everyone knows who they are and their importance. But as far as I can tell the Rolling Stones haven't come up yet.
Karl only picks the two songs a week for his teaching. Most of Amy’s picks are by her husband, Vlad (?), and her Patreon subscribers.
You see folks, Karl did have a point to why he chooses the songs that he does. Not necessarily his favorite or the biggest hits, they are to represent the points he is trying to make.
I think he's doing a great job.
He is. I’m enjoying it. A daunting task no less.
you can make a point on anything you choose ,that doesn't mean it is the most appropriate point
@@dr.alimpije511 it's his point that he wanted to make.
You are ridiculous😄
It was his point he wanted to make and his choice in order to make that point. What are you part of the thought police? Did he have an inappropriate thought in your opinion?😂
@@steveh7108 and what would be the point?😀
@@dr.alimpije511 Hook and groove. Are there better songs? Absolutely. Are there clearer examples where you won't get excessively distracted from those ideas? Maybe. Maybe not. Am I glad he's picking these so we can possibly get longforms of the really impressive stuff? Oh yes.
i can't understand that why no one mention the king crimson. they really have a heavy effect on most 70s rock genres, actually most of genres after the 70s.
their song "21st century schizoid man" is a something else that you can absolutely see the progression which rock to metal. besides it's the one of the first song of the metal history even before the black sabbath.
I totally agree, they opened the road to virtuosity also. They were much more metal then Black Sabbath ever was, and they were followed by Yes, genesis, Van der Graaf, Gentle Giant and so many others.
Minus the word the.
I am *really* enjoying watching your journey, Amy. I am very perplexed by Karl's choices, but that doesn't take away from how great this series is. I just don't know that you're really getting a good picture of what those of us listening to it at the time would have called rock. I'm the exact age as Karl, so perhaps in Canada things were different. As an example, although *technically* it can be labeled "folk-rock" I don't know anyone who would call Simon & Garfunkel rock. It certainly wasn't played on rock radio (pop radio, yes, not rock). My Sharona made absolutely no impact on the rock scene - it was a one-hit-wonder. Meanwhile, groups like Van Halen were tearing up the 70s. Doing the 60s without at least The Rolling Stones or Jimi Hendrix or Led Zeppelin to go along with the Beatles, and no Van Halen in the 70s is quite peculiar. Again though, I love watching you discover new music and eagerly await each new video. If he does the 90s without "Smells Like Teen Spirit" - which hit the music world like a bomb and dramatically changed rock music for generations - I'm going to be scratching my head even more.
I don't understand Carl's choices either. Absolute head scratcher.
And yet as someone who has no formal training or music education at all I still appreciate his discussion with Amy. He seems nice and since its all so subjective I am just happy for the excellent thoughtful content on UA-cam. This sight is kind of like a musical book club. I love it.
@@bruceschmidt8752 That is a good way of putting it - musical book club!
OMG how do you sum up the 70s in 5 or 10 songs. So many 100s of classic artists, bands, styles and albums from Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Bob Marley, Neil Young, The Eagles, Santana, Steely Dan, Sex Pistols, ZZ Top, Deep Purple etc etc etc
He only picks his favorites, in case you haven't guessed. He hasn't even had her listen to the Shaggs yet. Nirvana was heavily influenced by them and one of the rock founding fathers Frank Zappa loved them. They should spend at least a month discussing how the Wrecking Crew was the most important group that most people have never heard of but listen to them play all the time. I could take her down so many rabbit holes. She did 1 Sgt Pepper song, don't think that one had bass but McCartney was desperately(in vain)trying to imitate Carol Kaye's sound with his broken bass(he never had someone swap out the nut for a left handed version until at least past Let It Be). He said his fingers bled. The Wrecking Crew had more hits than all the groups she's reviewed so far ha!
@@BILLYMORGAN1971 Don't forget the Funk Brothers.
@@nellgwenn Could do a whole hour or two discussing the effect of pickled pig's feet on What's Going On.
Singer song writers were also very popular in the early seventies. Really can't pick two songs that fairly summarize any decade, let alone the seventies.
@@susanaltman5134 I remember watching an interview or musical discussion with the Clancy Brothers who Dylan idolized among other Greenwich Village type like Jack Elliot but Liam was like when they were 1st signed they thought Columbia wanted them. They later found out that Columbia was just collecting and marketing all manner of ethnicity. So there's a whole dirty business aspect to it too. Some of those singer songwriter types are pretty curious. Many of them are connected. For example Carol King was one of the greatest R&B(Rhythm and Black(blue)songwriters ha! She of course was good friends with James Taylor who aurally heard John Lennon assassinated and even bumped into his killer earlier, mk-ultra written all over it. So I agree there was quite a lot of variety in the 70's. Should be real interesting when she listens to Parliament Funkadelic or even Boston. If I'm not mistaken Tom Shultz grew up with a classical background before he moved onto cocaine and rock. Solo to More than a Feeling is classical.
The early 70s was the best music period in popular music. Rock and creativity at it's peak
Bullshit. "The Beatles" opened the door for all that followed. The 1970s was decadent self-indulgence and failed effort to reach the high bar set by "The Beatles".
I agree. All kinds of greatness there from Ozzy, Alice Cooper, Lynyrd Skynryd, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Eagles, ACDC and many, many more. Bands like Bad Company, Kansas etc. If they are looking for some greatness to appear after the 70's, they've missed the boat already. Obviously there are fire bands later and even now, today. But it was peek in the 70's like you said. Late 60's too (The Doors etc). Classical folks seem to need to wrap their head into a different expectation than approaching Classical. Sweet Home Alabama repetitive? Well, sure I guess. But the piano parts, the guitar solo which she looks at the camera and speaks 'I guess it's guitar time', the backing vocals. Repetitive wouldn't have occurred to me because it all sounds so perfect. But technically, sure. It's repetitive I guess.
@@stanleymyrick4068 Of course it's repetitive.
Rock music is "democratic". That means that much of it is temporary, throw-away. Junk.
And the audience, being mostly uneducated in music, call anything they LIKE "classic," or "legendary," or "greatness," or even "genius". Few of them have bothered to look at where their "great" music came from, so they lack any knowledge or sense of the history.
"The Doors" are depressing; but I guess that's what some believe is actually "great". And Jim Morrison musta been a "tortured genius poet" because he drank himself to death.
The 1970s are known mostly for bombast -- play really loud in place of quality -- eliminate all dynamics.
And "My Sharona" is somehow a standout?
What! They don't want to hear it on the harp?? I'd love to hear the beginning of Roundabout by YES on the harp. Would you do that please on the next 70's round?
I'll take the late 60's. Hendrix, Cream, The Airplane etc.
I would also point out that, not only the ‘45, but the portable record player, had a HUGE impact on teenagers. We could go to the privacy of our bedrooms and listen to rock music, without our parents supervision. Good times roll!!
Those suitcase record players were great. One of those and a transistor radio.
And don't forget the tapes. I don't know how they were called in English, but in France we said Mini-cassettes. And it allowed us to exchange music, record songs on radios, etc.
@@Rowenband yes and record concerts.
And the transistor radio.
Congrats on surpassing 70k subscribers!
If you listen to the original power trio -- Cream -- you'll see that Ginger Baker often doesn't have a snare at 2 & 4 (in Sunshine of Your Love, there's no snare at all for much of the verses). And, of course, White Room throws some 5/4 in as well as 4/4. And Baker (like Keith Moon) went with a two bass drum kit.
Speaking of New Wave, and I know you've mentioned having never been to a rock concert before, a happy medium might be watching Stop Making Sense, a concert movie from 1984 which consists of a full concert by the Talking Heads, one of the seminal New Wave bands.
Absolutely!
Best live concert movie ever made. Was reluctantly dragged to see it in the theater when it came out - and then gleefully went back two more times.
"Punk" and "New Wave" occurred at the same time. The difference was that "New Wave" tended to be sophisticated as compared with three-chord basic "Punk".
Idk what uppers the Talking Heads took before concerts, but my god did they take a lot of them.
The Last Waltz is vastly superior. Better band, better songs.
I want to see Amy listen to Yes and it would have to be a super long video if she were to listen to Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield 😂
Oldfield, yes. But Ommadawn or even Incantations. And Yes of course. She'll come to them eventually. Also Genesis, obviously.
Nooooo!!
@@paulk9603 🤪
The part at 35:20 talking about the audience clapping on 1 and 3 cracked me up. It reminded me of a great video of the amazing guitarist Tommy Emmanuel called "AMAZING BLUES GUITAR!!! MUST SEE!!"
H starts out the song joking to the audience: "It's a 12 bar blues in the key of E and if you want to sing along please don't, you'll ruin the whole thing." 😁
this is exactly why I am a patreon, is simply wonderful, and I grew up with this music, is such great fun to watch someone discover what many take for granted
How can you talk abount 70' rock and not talk about Led Zeppelin. They laid the groundwork for Metal music.
Or Deep purple, or even punk music.
I know they are going to go more in depth in a future episode but even this surface look of the 70s missed out on everything essential that happened.
Well, I guess she did already listen to some Led Zeppelin, and some Black Sabbath. I'm guessing that they're going in a different direction for now, and will come back to it later. Rock and Roll is so vast!
@@mikek0135 I don't understand their selection process. Neither the GOGO's or Motely Crew were long term chart toppers and the trend in the 80's was mostly Stadium rock like Boston, Foreigner,and U2
@Paul Harris: Yeah, I can only guess why he chose the Go Gos, but Motley Crue seemed like a good choice. Motley Crue exemplified the hair bands of the 80's, which were extremely popular in the '80's. I agree with her learning about the Glam Rock of the time - it was HUGE!
Obviously, we'd choose other bands to highlight, but she chose Carl (Karl?), and I guess we let him do his thing. I'M not gonna get upset about it - everyone gets their own journey.
According to Paul McCartney, The Beatles' 'Good Day Sunshine' baffles some of the world's best classical composers. I would like to see if Amy agrees with Paul's statement.
Paul's ego baffles even more ha!
@@BILLYMORGAN1971 I agree, that's why I'd like to see what Amy thinks.
@@markrinehart8813 I don't think she's acting like most reaction channels. She really has absolutely no perspective. She's got tons of listening to do and movies to watch. She also has to explore the history of technologies related to music. It's really a boat load. Daunting really....
@@BILLYMORGAN1971 I know she isn't doing a "reaction" channel, but it would be interesting to see if, being a classical musician, is baffled as Paul (the perfect) claims. Also, it would be interesting to see her analyze of the song. My guess is she wouldn't be "baffled" by it, and would have trouble analyzing it.
@@markrinehart8813 Would it be too much to ask her to watch Masque of the Red Death and then be told at the conclusion the red headed girl is Paul's Good Day Sunshine and for her to then listen to the song? :D One of the problems I would see is recording techniques that are foreign to classical recording artists. I just read through wikipedia's summary of the recording process. To me that's essential to understand the song or any pop song that was trying to be unique. The tape machine, various outboard gear like ADT(Automatic double track)and the layering are all part of the performance. I can picture her squinting too , wondering what a certain sound is or how something is being done by only a few people(5 I think).
"My Sharona" was a one-hit wonder.
This is a very odd intro to rock music. Two songs per decade and quite quirky choices at that. The doors, the stones, Jefferson airplane, pink Floyd, Dylan, Clapton, Hendrix,led zeppelin - all more important.
I think he's intentionally avoiding bands like them. As well as The Grateful Dead.
@@jimd7260 Yeah - but why?
@@jcparker500 1) So he can talk about specific things: the hook and the groove with good, clear examples of both. 2) so those can be longform episodes 3) Any of those and you'd spend three hours breaking those apart 4) He's a drummer.
Thankfully the future will not be looking at his version of the decades for historic info.
70’s the most interesting decade in music at all. Many styles of rock and electronic music
A lot of history to learn. When you get to a point of wanting to learn more about the Metal side of rock. There is a documentary called Metal Evolution. Well worth watching.
I though of a really gifted musician while listening to you guys talk about musical structure, Derek Paravicini and you may have heard of him. He is a musical savant who was born blind and with many severe mental and physical disabilities who cannot function in society without assistance but he is the most talented piano player I ever seen and heard. He can listen to for the first time any piece of music and and play that piece after only one listen - flawlessly! He can even play two pianos at once.
Great chat. I enjoyed it very much thank you.
"Lynryd Skynard" had one hit and that makes them "Legend" to the uncritical.
@@emtallmoose9436 people that doesn't have them on their top 10 list probably only know one song. Especially if you don't live in US.
70s in rock music are a great experiment and birth of genres, the most interesting and important period of rock music. And there was one artist who was one of the most important in the 70's, the one who defined the beginning of the era by glam rock, influenced punk rock, art rock, post-punk and new wave - Bowie was that artist. In the retrospective of the 70's his name should be heard, without him it is impossible to imagine that era.
"And there was one artist who was one of the most important in the 70's, the one who defined the beginning of the era by glam rock, influenced punk rock, art rock, post-punk and new wave - Bowie was that artist."
You have weird way of writing Bolan :D
@@mmestari yes, Elton John
Can't wait for what's coming ... Great stuff!!! Thanks!
Once more Karl is wrong. The Cars debuted a year earlier as a New Wave band.
Blondie’s “Heart of Glass” was released in 1978 while “My Sharona” was released almost a year later. “Heart of Glass” was significant for future New Wave because it combined punk & disco into one thing- New Wave.
But the real origin of the style has to go to an early CBGB band that was part of the punk scene but definitely didn’t quite fit into punk as it had elements of Art Rock too. The Talking Heads first charted in 1977 with “Psycho Killer.”
Let’s not forget another charting early New Wave band whose first single was no. 1 in Canada in 1978… the B-52s with “Rock Lobster.”
Some commentators are saying the Knack originated the New Wave style of narrow ties, coiffed hair, black suits, etc. No. They just copied what was already happening. Elvis Costello did all that in 1977 when “Allison” was released. He followed that with “Pump It Up” in 1978.
The Knack were a flash in the pan act who copied earlier New Wave bands who not only preceded them but whose pre-Knack songs have the legs “My Sharona” didn’t and who had longer, more successful and influential careers in the 1980s.
“My Sharona” was a catchy pop song in the New Wave style, I admit that. But what Karl is confusing as importance is actually the hype of the record companies attempt to cash in on new music by trying to make us think they were the new Beatles. But they weren’t and a lot of us slightly older rockers knew it was just hype at the time. (I was 24.)
That became even more obvious later in 1979 when one of the first UK punk bands, now New Wave, the Clash, released “London Calling,” which evaporated the hype as it was the real thing.
I don’t get this elevation of the Knack into significance.
I’d have selected “Psycho Killer,” “Rock Lobster,” “Allison,” “Just What I Needed,” “Heart of Glass,” or “London Calling” if I had wanted a song representing New Wave, mentioning the others I just listed and “My Sharona” while discussing the one I chose.
Maybe the significance of the Knack is they got the attention of the pre-teen bubble gum crowd?
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I found this conversation worth listening to, even those two particular songs are not high on my list. Karl is a professor of rock and I always learn something new. White audiences always clap on the one and the three, black audiences clap on the two and the four. I say this as a white guy Who has attended concerts of both kinds of audiences. The legendary Duke Ellington said that clapping on the one and the three was considered aggressive.
@@shiva1742does Karl have a professor position at a university?
My Sharona has a more stylistic link to 1950's which is why he chose it as i understand his discussion. And its commercial success adds to significance.
@@mirandak3273 no, I did not mean that in the literal sense.
Ah, Southern rock. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise: R.E.M. carried that tradition forward in the '80s and '90s.
Shinedown
My favorite decade of rock, Pink Floyd and The Eagles!
There were more great records than there is time to listen to them all.
@@Hartlor_Tayley I always get a bit of a chuckle when reaction channels get concerned that they have already covered all the great songs and bands of the 60s and 70s. I then think, no, you have barely scratched the surface. And that's on channels that have done several songs per week over multiple years. Very hard to run out of great songs and bands from this period.
The 70s also birthed Klaatu, one of favorite bands of all time, though they never became popular.
@@LeeKennison the radio missed all the good stuff. You gotta poke around. It’s a bottomless sea of joy.
@@darthraiden8740 calling occupants of interplanetary crafts
The early 70s were mind blowing but I felt like it stagnated in 74-75 then exploded with creativity 76-79. Lynyrd Skynyrd was really great at first but after a few months of constantly hearing Free Bird on the radio, I was about to turn the radio off. My Sharona was a novelty song that I liked for a few listens.
Nice job. So many more styles and genres in all those decades. I can't wait to hear what's coming.
The most prolific decade in а rock history! 👍
I would say the 2020s are the most prolific, because today almost anyone can produce a song at their own studio for less than $1,000. I know lots and lots of bands today making recordings, back in the 70s I knew far fewer, but maybe that is because I am older and know a lot more people.
@@karlsloman5320 considering the barrier to studios the 60s 70s were pretty prolific, especially if you count demos, home or live recordings.
@@Hartlor_Tayley Also, when you look at the ordered list of certified record sales, this period (60s and 70s) dominates in terms of record sales. Granted, the longer you have been around the more you will sell more in total, but it shows these bands are still selling. Some reports have shown it is still the best selling period today (particularly when you extend the range into the 80s). Although, sorting these things out becomes more challenging with the predominance of music streaming and much of music being free (or very cheap) to listen to.
@@LeeKennison people paid real money for albums they’ve never heard before. It’s amazing they sold any but they sold millions.
@@karlsloman5320 During my teenage years of the 70s everybody was listening to music, and many were playing music. There was no internet, UA-cam, video games or cell phones. People hung out and listened to music, or in many cases played music. Today people, if they even do physically hang out, are far more likely to be playing video games or be involved in other activities. I have also discovered in learning to play several different instruments, that the other folks (many young folks) I am learning with are most focused on leaning to play the songs from this period of the 60s through early 80s.
When I was in junior high in the early 1960s, the music teacher brought in current popular hits that were excerpted melodies from classical music.
Even being born at 1998, one of my early introductions into music, especially rock, was through vinil. One of the vinils my father had was a compilation of famous songs, it had "Stay" by Oingo Boingo, "You gotta love someone" by Elton John, among others, but my favorite was "Still Loving You" by the Scorpions. But it had a catch: that version DIDN'T HAD THE GUITAR SOLO, it had a fade out on the chorus repeat, and still I used to love that song! Can you imagine my mind-blowing experience years later when I heard the complete version of the song???
I found this conversation worth listening to, even though those two particular songs are not very high on my list. Karl is a "professor of rock" and I always learn something new. And by the way Karl, I've got ten years age on you so I was in my teen years when Rock Around The Clock, et al came out. White audiences always clap on the one and the three, black audiences clap on the two and the four. I say this as a white guy who has attended concerts with both kinds of audiences. The legendary Duke Ellington once said that clapping on the one and the three was considered aggressive. BTW, is this going to continue when Amy becomes a mom?
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"Can you imagine going to a dance if it was only a drummer ..." - well, not exactly a *dance*, but I've been to Terry Bozzio's solo tours twice, and I'd go again (and again, and again)! However, Terry is a master of his craft, and a very personable and entertaining fellow - and I'm less interested in "average" music than in heightened creativity and boundary-pushing.
To the point, though - as a bass & guitar player, I completely agree with Carl - the drummer is foundational to rock music from the simplest forms of blues-rock to the wildly creative excursions of prog and fusion!
Why does it touch the vynil with his fingers? Never do that!
The 45 vs album on the radio skips the whole album oriented radio -- so you're not listening to a 4 minute song on the radio, but you might be listening to the Allmans Mountain Jam, at over 33 minutes. It's probably an FM station, not AM -- but you'll find it in most major cities during the 70s.
To understand the main strands of rock music in the 1970s, the evolution of The Beatles in the 1960s is a good starting point:
They moved from simple rock'n'roll emulations via more complex harmonisations to adding more of an orchestral approach and incorporating experimentation with (recording) technology, foreign traditions and psychedelic/trance-inducing sounds as well as heavier amplification/distortion.
Most of the first half of the seventies' rock music AFTER The Beatles (some even up to the late seventies) would continue in the vein of becoming more virtuosic and using more technology (either to become more heavy and/or psychedelic, or to become more polished and sophisticated), with "long tracks" becoming more and more popular.
Good examples from the late 60s to the late 70s would be on the heavy psychedelic side Iron Butterfly with "In a Gadda-da-vida" or Hawkwind with "The Psychedelic Warlords (Disappear in Smoke)" and on the progressive orchestral side The Alan Parsons Project with "The Fall of the House of Usher" or "I Robot".
Some aspects of that Progressive Rock era Amy has been exposed to by listening to Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody".
In the second half of the seventies, however, a lot of rock music either rediscovered its rawer roots or at least returned to a more immediate and visceral sound.
Much of that early The Beatles' rawness from the early '60s would reappear in rock music during the punk era.
Punk rock is the most important subgenre of rock that Amy has not been exposed to yet - it was a reaction to the (some would say: overly) polished sound, compositions and arrangements of many of the late sixties and early seventies rock bands (Psychedelic, Progressive, Hard 'n Heavy Rock), but this return to a more amateurish sound was also ushered in by musical instruments, amplifiers, effect pedals and recording equipment becoming cheaper and more widely available.
What punk rock lacked in virtuosity, it made up by energetic performance and tonal as well as verbal attitude.
A good starting point to understand the difference between early rock'n'roll and punk rock would be comparing the Elvis Presley version of "Viva Las Vegas" (rock'n'roll) with the Dead Kennedys version of the same song (punk rock).
Good examples of a more naive, jamlike, innocently rough punk-rock charm would be the song "Sweet Suburbia" by the Skids, or the teenage / generational gap hymn "If the kids are united" by Sham 69. These were British bands.
In the U. S. A., the Ramones were a crucial band. "Beat on the brat" and "I wanna be sedated" showcase their acidic, edgy, provocative and sarcastic attitude, while "I wanna be your boyfriend" and "Rockaway Beach" are a bit tamer than most of their oeuvre, but still very energetic and raw.
Another strand of 70s Rock music that stayed true to or went back to the more immediate Rock'n'roll rawness, even already in the first half of the 70s, was Glam Rock: Good examples would be "Cum On Feel The Noize" by Slade, "Ballroom Blitz" by The Sweet, "20th Century Boy" by T. Rex, and "Suffragette City" by David Bowie.
Thank you Carl! This was excellent. You put words and concepts to my instincts 😊
Can't believe you put your greasy fingers all over those records.
I was lucky enough to see Lynard Skynard
On their 1st tour in a small venue.
They introduced this song as a song they just wrote.
This was before they released it.
Lynyrd Skynyrd*
Amy, when you get to The Eagles you should listen to their «Wasted Time» song with «Wasted Time (Reprise)». But, if you wouldn't have enough time to listen to both, you must hear «Wasted Time (Reprise)» alone. It's just 1 minute 22 seconds.
Ouch Carl, how you handle the vinyl.
I think 1st New Wave groups were Cockney Rebel and The Modern Lovers in 1972-1973.
I was a teenager in the '70's,,,so I'm biased. The BEST music is from the '70's. 💥💥💥👍😎
I really hope you get to introduce her to 70's Yes... Very interested to hear her take on that band!
Hi Amy . In the 70's Progressive rock was huge, You are covering some of it. Some lesser known but original groups were String Driven Thing and Rare Bird. If you get a chance have a listen. Love your show. Congratulations to you and V on your expectation. I hope all goes well.
I remember albums only costing $5 in the 70's. I thought it was outrageous when the prices went up to $7 later. My first was "A Hard Days Night". I was with my mom at a department store, a couple of years after that came out. I strayed away from her when the record rack caught my eye. She caught up with me, and said I could pick one out. I wasn't really into music yet. I was just 6. But I recognized their faces on the cover, after seeing them on TV, and I knew they were a big deal. That one was probably only $3 back then. The first album I bought with my own money, by myself, was Hawaii Five-O by The Ventures. THAT song from the TV show was the first to really trigger my love of music. That one really excited me. I became an avid music fan from that point on, and began to appreciate that Beatles album more after that. In the early 60's, I only had the 45 rpm types. Those were audio versions of my favorite cartoons. Like "Felix the Cat", and "Woody Woodpecker". They would play the theme song, then do a narrated version of the cartoon stories. Complete with sound effects, and the voices of the characters from the cartoons.
I would not have picked these two songs to represent the 1970's. So many better tunes to choose from. I'll list a few: Stairway To Heaven, Smoke On The Water , Carry On Wayward Son, War Pigs, Roundabout... Many More
This would have been the time to have Amy listen to David Bowie.
I don't know what songs are going to be used for the 80s, because I'm just as confused as Amy when it comes to how all of this is suppose to mesh together and I know these decades. The song choices chosen so far for representing the decades should be apart of the deep dive section, because they don't represent the main stream.
It was Punk that brought forth New Wave. All New Wave was was refined Punk under a new name so record companies could market it easier.
I'm guessing the 80s choices will skip over the second British Invasion and Synth Rock.
I have given up on Amy ever listening to Bowie. Bowie defined the 70s. Instead we get crap like The Knack. Seriously? Feh. The most influential rocker in history (look it up) and they give us (yawn) southern rock and The Knack.
Should be “Billie Jean” and “Welcome to the Jungle” for the 80s.
Probably will be “Freeze Frame” and “We Didn’t Start The Fire.”
@@mirandak3273 I'm guessing they will be "Video Killed The Radio Star" by The Buggles, so Karl can talk about MTV, and RUN DMC's cover of Aerosmith's "Walk This Way" to introduce rap.
There is a great video of The Buggles playing the song live after 20+ years of it's release everybody should check out.
@@vonVile Buggles song was a 70’s hit.
Yeah, the 70's was all about experimenting. I'm hoping that Carl recognises the 80's were more compositional ... with synthesisers in the mix, you could layer tracks and build up the song. It's so much more than a reverb'd snare drum.
I’ve been involved in music my entire life, and I’ve never thought about clapping on the downbeat being a problem…. I mean, if everybody did it, it wouldn’t be, because that would be the norm! 🤷🏼♂️
Couldn't focus on any of the discussion after seeing vinyl handled in that way.
I shouted "NOooooooooo" at my screen.
I'm a bit lost of what the purpose of this episode? What were you trying to tell us about 70s rock? I don't see the connection of the "Boxer" and "Sweet Home Alabama" contextually. In my opinion Sweet Home is more connected to the Blues vs The Boxer which would be more connected with Louis Prima. As far as political issues in music of course that's all throughout music way before the 70s. Once you get into the music theory I have to turn you off. I'm not here for that class.
I'm a musician but have never played in an orchestral environment. I was wondering about the importance of the conductor. You were saying the conductor holds the musicians performance together. Doesn't the sheet music direct the players performance? I've always noticed when I've watched a classical performance that the musicians are always looking at their score and rarely at the conductor. I know it may seem like a stupid question but I'm curious.
If you're playing under a coductor, you learn to glance up from your part regularly or keep one eye on the conductor to keep you in time and in your place.
I believe it was Courtney Pine, the jazz clarinetist, who advised budding musicians to “Imitate to innovate.” Learn to play your favourite songs by your favourite players, and once you’ve mastered them, you can start twisting them, bending them and making your own things from them.
Too small a musical sample to ask Amy to say if patterns are shown.
Thank you Karl, for explaining the Neil Young/Lynyrd Skynyrd background and alternate interpretations of 'Sweet Home Alabama'.
Basically, the 70s can be summarized in the following musical genres: Progressive rock, jazz rock (or fusion), hard rock, glam rock, electronic music, dance music (including soul, funk and disco), punk rock and what followed: post-punk and new- wave and finally soft rock which can include folk rock and country rock. Put the artists you like for each defined genre.
I may have to skip a few episodes so I don't have to listen to "southern" rock or its history from Karl. He's gone over the deep end waddling in inconsequential history that had nothing to do with real rock music.
Rock was surely affected by the "South" but it was more of blues from Memphis an jazz from New Orleans. Those strains mixed in a spicy jamabalaya in Chicago, St. Louis, Kansas City, and other cities to flourish commerically. Even to this day, nobody thinks Leonard Skynyrd as anything like top 100 bands, much less have an impact worthy of this much time talking nonsense about Alabama, the song references.
Putting aside the tragedy and sympathy, their music itself is boring, repetitive, and, as Amy said on first listen, simple.
78s were being made as late as 1958, alongside 45s; see, as example, Patti Page, Brenda Lee, Elvis Presley.
My brother-in-law had a Sun Records 78 of Carl Perkins' "Blue Suede Shoes".
KARL! You're killing me! Get those fingers off that album side! LOL
This video and all the series is becoming a pure gold !! Many thanks for your time to make this happen ..Greetings Amy and Carl ..
33:30 yap! that is why all amazing rock groups must have had great instrumentalists, on drums, guitars, organs etc.
The 70's produced an explosion of creativity and produced some of the best rock music. The shear quantity that is still remembered and well known some 50 years later is testament to that. Will the music of today be remembered in the same way in 2073? I very much doubt it.
Please listen to Karn Evil 9 by Emerson Lake and Palmer. It's rock, it's jaz, it's very complex but so very good. It maybe a bit long but I am sure a clasical musision like yourself will appeciate it. Probably the pinacle of prog rock and the musicianship is unbelievable.
Ok, I guess I understand where this is going. He's a drummer and focuses on rhythm. That's what drummers do. Hopefully a guitarist steps in and adds their part of the formula to the equation.
You should watch Howard Goodall's analysis of the Beatles music on UA-cam, brilliant.
Would be super interested to hear a reaction to Peter Gabriel's "Solsbury Hill"
New Wave also comes from the "new wave" of British bands with a different sound. Alot of synths .
'Down' is a great sultry southern-fried metal group, with members from Crowbar, Corrosion of Conformity & Pantera. 🍻
I would love to hear what Amy makes of Public Image. Such a discordant yet hypnotic band. Would make for a great video.
remember the star wars albums, one of them had a tie fighter, flash a light at it and it projects it in pseudo 3d above the surface. i've only ever seen it on youtube, but that was quite a trick.
35:13 / 35:42 - if you find it, I'd love to watch it, too!
This also somehow reminds me of marching band, where we learned how to do what basically amounted to two steps in a row with the same foot, in order to reverse us (from RLRL to LRLR or whatever) if we had somehow gotten onto the wrong step.
A uni drumline near me had a piece called something like 'Screw the cheerleaders' - very simple 4/4, great groove, and then as soon as you've got the cheerleaders clapping along, 5/4, Then back to 4/4, then 6/8
@@MuriKakari I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly.... However, I'm reading this as sounding a bit mean-spirited, which seems... well, mean, I guess. I'm not a big fan of being mean.
@@DavidLindes Yeah, it probably was a bit mean. I was just thinking of it as a piece where time signatures changed to adjust / prevent clapping, but you're probably right. I do remember at the same game that I heard that the cheerleaders started multiple chants over the pep band, but I also don't know who started that hits.
In the military we called what you are describing as "change step".
"Jimi Hendrix Experience" and "Cream" were power trios. But let's pretend that the 1970s weren't an effort to avoid regurgitating the 1960s.
I hope you find a place to include psychedelia. A much bigger sub genre than most realize.
When thinking about bands not yet mentioned... *Aerosmith* (1970- ) and *AC/DC* (1973- ) are obvious names, when I think huge, influencal and still widely known rock bands. Both in USA & internationally. Both have sold tens of millions of albums in USA alone.
Introduction to *Nightwish* (1996- ) was kind of derailed... That metal-Mozart -thing was a major misunderstanding. Nobody from the band has ever claimed that song having anything to do with Mozart.
For some fans, anything kind-of-classical-like is immediately Mozart. Some other fan else might say Beethoven, without ever listening Beethoven etc. Eventually, some name sticks, like metal-Mozart.
Nightwish has had influences from several genres (folk, metal, pop, classical, opera/musical theater, movie scores...). They've had three very different vocalists, of which two have had also classical training.
Amy I'm a little confused, however I'm a member of the over sixties old geezer club. I think your only Analysing 2 prolific bands from each decade with your forensic Analysis. A bit minimalist.
You may need to back track, at some stage, other wise I think you're only skating the surface of the popular pool of genius and talent that were! Its a shame you aren’t able to analyse another three per decade. I know there's only so much you can do, but like me there are probably quite a few in your audience who are disappointed.
May I suggestion Altravox Vienna, released in the eighties, when you get there, I hope your audience agrees.
Ultravox? I'm sure Midge wouldn't agree but he's essentially a one hit wonder.
I tell everyone every week, that we are doing 2 from each decade, and then we go back to do a deep dive. For example I have 10 songs from just the Surf Rock period that we will look at. Right now I have just over 300 songs on the list, so three per decade is still not even scratching the scratching on the surface! LOL I could come up with 100 songs just from the Progressive Rock Genre, let alone all the other genres within the Rock Sphere. So yes, we will be getting into a lot more in the future, but one step at a time.
@@karlsloman5320 How about doing a parallel “Classical Virgin”. Maybe one ditty per millennium. Joking aside, I feel for you Karl. Maybe get Amy to do 100 tracks a day ??
@@ChristianRThomas yes a shame, he was a bit if a one hit wondelr but was good. Anyway stil worh Amy doing her thing, on this bsnd
I would like to hear 10 cc I'm mandy fly me , Im not in love, dont hang up, wont feel the beifit, all briliant works of art that nees a great talent that is Elizabeth 🥂
@@tonytroiani6599 I'm not in Love is a cracking song, but would you pick it over Harry Nilsson doing Without You? That's a toss-up for me. I listened to 10cc's How Dare You quite recently and none of it was quite as good as I remembered from the time, including Mandy (which just about made the cut) and Art for Art's Sake. All a bit of a disappointment, rather, though Deceptive Bends held up better. I tended to think they were all a bit too easy and, dare I say it, trite. I really didn't think they were actually trying very hard.
Picking TWO songs from a decade and calling this "The History of Rock Music" goes light years beyond absurd. Please get back to individual song tracks...and PLEASE learn how to hold an album!
nice chat guys but i think its emotionable that's the difference in every song the way the chords get played
Well, I've listened to the video, but still no further forward on why those 2 tunes were picked for the 70s, apart from the riff repetition, which certainly wasn't the standard in the 70's.
The Allman Brothers - Whipping Post would have been a better introduction to Southern Rock and My Sharona is the musical equivalent of a fishbone stuck in your throat. There's no innovation - it's recycling techniques that the Beach Boys and The Who did in the 60's.
Picking these to represent the 70's is like choosing Frantisek Kotzwara as the classical music standard bearer - a composer, more known for his unusual death, then any of his works. Even his most known musical piece, The Battle of Prague, is so bad, it inflicts more pain on the listener than the real event did on the participants.
Perhaps I've missed the point you were aiming for, or it's just not conveyed itself clearly...
@tele_gram_Virgin_Rock Wow really?? Unfortunately, at the moment, I'm in Nigeria, trying to meet the Prince ... maybe you know him ... Prince Fullakakka??
I don't need to use my Spidey senses to know that Blues Traveler Hook is coming up in the 80s or 90s.
Not just because he kept talking about the hook, but also because he mentioned nonsensical words.
There is no better demonstration to that then The Hook.
I wonder if Amy would identify the chord progression of "Hook" as being the same as "Canon in D." I'm guessing she probably would.
Brian Eno's - Here Come Comes the Warm Jets is Worth a listen... And see where that leads.... Lots of threads to follow from 1973 to 2023 :-)
I've never bought a 45 ever. And when I bought albums in the 70s I've never even seen anyone buy one in a record store. I do remember listening booths though.
Southern rock is started by the Allman Brothers it's almost country blues jam with a little jazz. Southern rockers Molly Hatchet were so great.
What do you think, is she ready for a live version of Freebird?
Conversational opinions may be interesting, but don't qualify as historical account. You mentioned Neal Young as a Canadian perspective, so apply that to Karl as well. Both opinions but not an accredited history. All who experienced this period have opinions of what occured.Find a qualified historian on par with Amy's brilliant musical analysis. Another opinion about The Who studdering was that it was a parody of excessive amphetamine use( popular in Liverpool at the time). See, everyone has opinions.
So who are the gatekeepers of accredited history. Does history also include interpretations of it such the the endlessly debated causes of WW1. Does history get revised as new facts are discovered or is it set in stone.
The most I ever paid for a 45 was 78 cents. Now many of those I bought are sold at second hand for upwards of $75.00.
There should be a part of episode 4 - the 70´s. Listen to The Clash London calling, Straight to hell or Roch the casbah.
Roger Daltrey studderd because he WAS nervause doing that song
The Who were the band of choice of Mods whose drug of choice was speed that could result in stuttering.
So it was intentional to put it in, signaling to Mods the Who’s generation was Mods strung out on speed.
It also happened that “Why don't you all f-f-f-fade away,” sounded like it was going to be “Why don't you all f-f-f-fuck off” before it resolved to “fade away.”
She definitely needs to listen to some punk. I'd say Clash for sure, but also Dead Kennedys and Ramones so she can see there's so much variety, even within sub-genres.
As far as I understood the purpose of the stuttering in "My Generation," Roger Daltrey was singing as if he were a mod on speed (amphetamine).
The 45 version of SHA is the same length as the album version. They are one and the same version.
When exacly was the 70s mentioned in this video? They literally only talk about alabama and my sharone and how important drums are
I am waiting for when she is introduced to Bob Seger and his music style. Especially his live version of Turn The Page. One of the greatest lives songs of all time. But the 70s was one of the greatest times in music when you had a lot of great groups like the Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, and so many more.