I had just changed my oil to Valvoline advanced full synthetic and put a frame ultra synthetic on but after starting car could hear engine lifters for first time since owned car over ten years, switched to a Mann filter and noise quiieted down but now am switching to a Purolator boss and Pennzoil ultra platinum to hopefully save the engine long term
I'm a machinist almost 40 years one third of that was Automotive building stock and high performance motors and doing all the machine work and racing motorcycles and building them and the engines the rest was Aerospace as a prototype Machinist I've been watching these things and watching wear patterns for many years Fram in the 70s was pretty decent have the best-selling quote as you said selling but not the best filter especially anymore kind of like Champion spark plugs I would not use a Fram or a champion plug-in anything the only thing a Champions good for it's a lawn mower. But Wicks seems to be top-of-the-line or at least one of a couple I Wix XP with synthetic oil on my Nissan Xterra 320000 Mi still going strong thank you for the video
I use wix xp for many yrs. already. My 01 Suburban has 320k miles and doesn't use a drop of oil - changes every 7K miles and the engine remains tight using Castrol Synthetic.
Only use AC and Motorcraft filters, tried a Purolator one time and it came apart internally but was lucky my gf heard a noise and shut it off, checked oil pressure and was barely able to move the manual gauge. Pulled the filter, turned the motor over and sprayed oil everywhere so put a Motorcraft on it oil pressure up and still running today….that was 8yrs/140k miles ago….322k miles now
Used a fram filter on a fresh 355 chevy as a break in filter! Filter came apart starved the engine for oil ended my engine! Tore engine down found filter material plugging the oil pickup in the pan!
I used to use fram back before i knew better, then i switched to Purolator filters. Ive tried those K&N filters before and it seemed way over priced for what it was. Wix has always been a quality filter in my opinion.
Bro a couple of bucks six is trash you need k and n the best and the ogs fram is on the wix category I dc what anyone says . All these wix users where did they come from ? It don’t make sense . They want everyone to use those filters . Absolute trash don’t harm your engine
The fitting on the end of K & N filters is so that one can use a wrench or socket on them to remove them without using any extra tools. It is not to keep it from blowing off a motorcycle.
The nut on the K&N Oil Filter has TWO (2) purposes -- Nut to remove filter -- Hole in the nut for safety wire. K&N Oil Filters are used by pro racers -- the safety requirements call for a "safety wire" that keeps the filter from coming loose and blowing oil on the track. You won't need a safety wire to get to the Piggly-Wiggly.
When he said bow off a motor cycle i was like huh ?!!! But i read the other replies and learned something new today !! Ty ! I thought it only had one purpose I would’ve never imagined wiring down your filter, so it don’t blow off while you’re racing. Your crotch rocket lol.
NATES INTERACTIVE AUTO Hey Nate! Very informative video. Would you say that Royal Purples Extended Life Premium Oil Filter (which is supposedly the same as Amsoils Ea Oil filter) is superior to all the these filters?
Nate, it has well known for years that Fram oil filter are very cheaply made. At one time years ago it was a quality brand product. You want something even cheaper look a Purolator oil filters. A good oil filter brand use AC Delco . Another. Thing is to do if if you don't known what brand to.purchase is get the OEM oil filter which was designed for that usage. Examples AC Delco is GM, Motorcraft is Ford. Besides looking construction of the filter you need to check what micron filter paper was used. Also look at the backflow valve is Purolator is the worst if I remember correctly.
Back in the '80's I stopped using the regular fram. I cut 2 used filters open ; on one I peeled the cardboard disc off the filter paper very easily, actually I saw gap and it peeled off from there. On the other filter where the filter pleats mate up with a steel crimp , it was not crimped on the entire length of the pleats! So that had a gap that I was able to insert a pencil into. ( thats a lot of unfiltered oil!)
I've always used Mobile 1 full syn and Motocraft filters on my Ford car I've owned February will be 17 years and 350000.0miles I've never had valve covers off the engine But the way oil fill is made U can look rite in on cam lobes and followers it even surprised me how clean she is even on Pcv side!!!
@@Roostertailin I see your point but why would they put out a totally crappy product possibly damaging a motor and be ok with that and have their name on it, that's what I don't understand and with that being said, maybe start using low end product in other filters to save money and we would not know about it until someone cuts one open, just saying motor on.
@@williamschuman4951 My dad has been using Fram since he started driving, atleast that's what hes told me, and hes never had a problem. Yes, he uses the orange ones, still to this day.
Ive only used wix, I build engines in a machine shop and I can tell you that fram oil filters break the cardboard down and atip up oil gallies in the engine creating oil starvation issues
For the record, I'm going to point out that the Fram is of a different tier of quality versus the competition here. If you wanted an apples to apples comparison, it should've been the Fram Ultra, I use that filter of sound mind, the orange can is still fine for the specified OCI. They've been proven to be durable to a 6k OCI. I wouldn't run it on a GDI motor. But still. But I use the WIX XP if they make one for my application. K&N is a stout filter, but its just too expensive per the competition.
I agree, the Fram ultra is the proper filter to compare to these two other filters. I would never use a Fram filter with the exception of the Ultra which is my preferred filter. The Wix xp and K&N are in the same price range as the Ultra. The orange can Fram is their lowest priced filter, even at Frams top end (ultra) I have never paid more the $8 and some change for one.
@@Roostertailin i used to use fram extra guard all the time till i took one off and the oil was just as clean as it was wheni filled it up prior to installation...had no filtration of the vehicle oil at all...went to Napa gold (wix) and have never had a problem since
Have been using the k&n filter for the quality and honestly the convenience of having the nut at the end Nothing better than having your arm fully extended and trying to spin a filter off by hand With the k&n not a problem
I took a brand new FRAM filter apart because it was sitting on the shelf and I had no use for it. It had rust in it. I tried a FRAM Regular with a dodge 3.9 V6 and when I started the engine, the lifters would make noise at first, I also tried a FRAM XG filter and same noise. With the WIX it made no lifter sound at all. Thanks for the Video. Same Exact Oil BTW
I drive a 1ton diesel truck pulling hot shot.Been using Mobil 1 full syn and WIX XP filters.I easily put 10k miles a month on this truck,and change oil then.After seeing this,will surely keep on with current parts.
Andddd I was complaining because of my coffee filter style changing system in my car. Prefer that than water in my engine. Wix for me. Never a problem great price.
I ran rotella t5 in my Jeep switched to pennzoil platinum and the engine runs smoother and i get better fuel economy 2mpg I’d guess in the summer and when I changed my oil pan out it was clean.
Nice video. I personally use either a Bosch or a Wix. Used to use Fram Tough Guard but switched to Bosch. Which works fantastic. One filter I will never ever use again. STP. I don’t care if they give it to me. Whether it is the blue or the ultra STP filter. A blue STP cost my a 75.00 tow bill. I was changing my own oil as I do. I had already drained all of my oil out. Started taking the blue STP filter off it literally crushed in my hand trying to remove it. Tried the screwdriver hammer through it. That filter would not budge. Why I had it towed. If I put oil in it it would all be lost in seconds through the crappy tore up blue STP that was shredded.
I think it's important to understand the filtering capability per the type of filter media and not necessarily just the media's thickness or length. As even the Wix is shorter than the Fram but we know that the media type is much more durable and capable from the WIX. It would be interesting to understand and compare the filtration capability of the cellulose media from the K&N vs the synthetic of the WIX
I use a large plumbers-type pipe (tubing) cutter to cut filters open. The cutter wheel goes right through the sheet metal of the filter. It also doesn't spray material all over. Otherwise, it can be difficult to tell if the debris in the filter is from the engine or the cutting process.
I was a technician at 4 different Ford Dealerships for a total of about 22 years experience and I saw with my own eyes a Fram oil filter destroy the crankshaft and bearings in a 5.0 Liter V8 that had less than 15,000 miles on it. When our regional Ford technical Rep. came and looked at the engine,he told us that this had been found to be a common problem when using a Fram filter instead of a Motorcraft filter. Motorcraft filters are made by Purolator to Ford's specifications. We had a TSB come out a short while later instructing all techs that using Fram filters would void the warranty on the engines from that point forward.
@@paulhunter9613 yeah I'd buy Napa filters because their cheeper then Wix I think. The Napa gold filter I get is only $8.00 and the one that says Wix is like $10.00 or more it's a no brainier LOL
Fram/Castrol Full Synth user since 1999 never had any oil related issues. Changed every 3-6 months base on how much driving was done spiritedly. Mileage for my cars 120k 170k 204k all Honda/Acura
I use wix xp and pennzoil ultra platinum oil. My 03 chevy blazer with 4.3 is still running strong. I change the oil every 5 to 6k miles. The oil still has a translucent honey color when i drain it.
That Wix media is actually denser/thicker , and can trap more and smaller particles, as the oil makes a continual circulation through the filter, when the engine is operating of course. .. And can last a long service life without falling apart... I saw a video, and it is tough material with a screen-like inner backing. The cheaper filters use filter-paper made from cellulose (wood) fibers, some reinforced with synthetic fibers, some all synthetic. The K&N, is said to be treated with a resin to augment the filter media. The K&N cartridge for a Tundra looks like it will function as stated by K&N. They appear to me to be a well made product, and I can recommend them as I have used them multiple times. I avoid Fram because the 'economy' filters appear low quality. I know they market some top-end filters that are similar to other premium brands.
I even use motorcraft on my old Chevy. For the $0.50-$1.00 extra why not? They are the best, they may not make them but they hold whoever does to a high standard.
I was running Motorcraft oil and filters on my F-150 until I found out they supported the Communist BLM organization. My next truck will be a Totoya and filters will be Wix. Still deciding on which oil to buy. I was planning on Supertech, but I'm sure Walmart supports the communist too; hell, I know they do.
I’ve used Wix in all my cars with zero problems. Most of my cars are a bit older (think 79, 89, and 92) so I’m very particular about what I use with them due to their age.
I had always heard that Fram made terrible filters. Now you show us the proof, Nate. Don’t think I’ll ever use a Fram ever again. I think the Wix is. quality filter at a good price.
Mobil 1 is the best balance between price and quality for screw on oil filter. Made by champion labs like Amsoil, KN. However much cheaper and using cellulose media. Also an extended interval type filter
I use this k&n filter on my truck, it's a tough filter and filtrates particles as small as 10 microns. I get it for around 10 to 12 bucks on amazon or walmart
@@tmaq9726 No, they also sell K&N, Bosch, Mobil 1, among others, and the higher end Fram filters are not bad, its the orange Frams that are bottom of the barrel.
Dont use the Supertech (Walmart brand) ones on a fsb. I wouldn't use a k&n if you allready have low oil pressure tho. Wix is good. K&n seems to need a good pressure
People saying they've never had an issue with this brand or that, but if you did have an issue, how would you know? I used the cheapest Fram and AC Delco for years and didn't have an issue that I knew of, but switched to Wix within the last year or so when I started learning more about filters.
I’ve used all these brands and others like Bosch and Purolator. Other than on an old riding mower, I have never used an orange Fram....they are cheap for a reason! I have used the Fram Ultra and believe it is a top quality. I generally use an Wix or other name brand or the auto manufacturer’s filter and always spend extra for their top tier filter. Synthetic oil. 6000 mile change interval. Never experienced a filter failure.
I have used Fram filters (TG) Tough Guard on/off for over 30 years. I have known of their filter media and had heard of their build quality problems for about 5 years or so. In the time that I was a consistent user of Fram. Not once had I ever encountered a problem. Every once in a great while I would open a box and tge rubber gasket would be loose or dangling inside the box but that was very rare in my experience. I NEVER EVER have had a FRAM oil filter NOT DO EVERYTHING AS EXPECTED. I don't have the anxiety if the FRAM NOT DOING ITS INTENDED JOB and FAILING. WHY? Its because I drive a lot and change my oil well before the 8K- 10k or longer oil change intervals the car and filter industry are conning us into believing. I still change my oil even with useibg FULL SYNTHETIC OIL every 3-5,000 miles or about 50% on my oil monitoring computer on my car. Oil and filters are cheap, engines aren't.
I always try to buy American Made.... That being said I use AMSOIL Lubricants and Switched to Amsoil Filters... Several years ago, after I saw the Fram filter inside construction I stopped using them totally.... AMSOIL on all of my vehicles.....
Thanks for watching and i don't promote any brand but criticize them all the same constructive criticism. Maybe a little over the top sometimes and i Don't purposely mean to upset brand fans even my choice of brand is criticized if i see something.
@Wayne I have never used Fram filters, I just used the color reference to show how marketing departments use bold colors and designs to sell their products. Another good example is a lot of people buy oil based on graphics and bold colors of the container.
I run a Spec Miata in race group. I only use Wix. I also have a 2004 Ford Lightning. I have only used Ford Racing filters but thinking about going to Wix Racing filters. K&N doesn't seem to be a bad choice either. I do like that it's individually sealed.
K&N filters have the lowest micron filtration... but the problem with using them, is people don't change them as often as they should. Better filtration means they lose flow faster.... meaning most people will often run them too long in high mileage applications.
I used the Wix XP on my Honda Civic since the oil light didn’t come on until roughly 10K miles. They seemed to perform pretty well. I’ve used Fram before but I don’t anymore. My dad used a Fram one time and had used them many times before until the next time he changed his oil and the filter was completely dry.
I have been using fram filters on all of my vehicles for 25 years. I have never had a failure. I have a 2005 Pontiac Montana SV6 that has run fram filters from 130000km in 2009 to current day where it has 431000km and a bunch of the oil changes were run for well over 10000km with the standard fram filter and standard oil. The engine doesn't burn any oil. It will only burn 1 liter over 10000km. I have run other engines that way as well. You can't tell anything about those filters from opening them up in that manner. The moisture in the filter is likley from condensation that would happen to anything steel that was taken fr a colder environment to a warm one in a short period of time where the humidity was higher in the warmer environment. That's physics. Proof is in performance over time on many different vehicles.
Many years ago, among other things I was changing the oil on my friend's dad's 1989 Lincoln Town car 5.0. He was old school and insisted I use a fram filter. I removed a Motorcraft filter. After changing the oil and starting the car, I got a waterfall of oil everywhere. It was spraying out from the Dram oil filter and I could not understand why. It was tight and I did not double seal it. I removed it and was comparing it to the Motorcraft filter. Something didn't look right. I stuck my left pinky into the Motorcraft filter and it went all the way in. I stuck my left pinky into the Fram filter and it stopped at the mid knuckle. It was not threaded properly so it looked like the filter was tightened properly sealed against the filter pick up, but it was not. Have not touched a Fram filter since that day.
A while back, I purchased a non running 2005 F250 with a wiped out valve train. Found filter media in oil passages in cylinder heads that choked off oil flow wiping out the valve train. Engine had the orange oil filter of death on it - a Fram.
Our Pinty's NASCAR engine builder warned us OFF of Fram, especially the one with "Teflon" in it. Use "Mobile 1" or Wix filters, stay away from the additives, use Mobile 1 full synthetic oil.
This means nothing to me. Take the same used oil and divide it into three equally parts then run one third of the oil through the individual filters using the same method on each one. Finally through oil analysis of the used oil compare the contaminants in each of the three samples. The filter producing the cleanest oil wins regardless of any other chacteristics of how the filters are made. I currently use K & N or Toyota OEM.
I used to deal with the S.E. sales rep for WIX filters and they make alot of filters for other people. Of course they have different quality specifications for different brands. I believe he stated that there's only 3 filter manufacturing plants can't remember if that was in the U.S. or worldwide either way alot of brands on the market made by the same people. Something to check into. Maybe those cheaper ones are WIX rejects.
My oil got dirtier quicker with fram. Wix was the best I've got so far. I don't think i could ever go back to fram or the cheap crap. I didn't have any problems with fram per say but noticing the difference in the cleanliness of the oil sold me on the wix.
I have used K&N for over 10 yrs. And not even one bad filter ever. My Tahoe has 250k miles and running strong I always run full synthetic Mobil 1 oil. What I have noticed engines that failed well under 200,000 miles and spending the extra money on a quality oil filter and oil, Maybe a good choice if you want your engine to last longer. I don't cheap out on my oil and oil filter I also do it myself. I know I'll get 300K out of my engine. It don't use oil or leak for that matter. I run to Florida with it once a year and back to Michigan also pull trees that have fell mostly ash trees since the ash bores killed them off, i pull a all steel car trailer when I need to.and everything else with it, put that into perspective. My Tahoe is a 99 2 Door Sport.
I bought a new Chevy pick up in 1991 with the 4.3 V6 and used Fram filters the whole time I owned it. I got 326,000 miles on it and still was running great when I sold it.
Early 90s 4.3 engines we're almost indestructible. At least that was my observation. Like the old Dodge slant 6 and Ford 5 L straight 6. I wouldn't be surprised if one went 350000 miles with a decent OCI and no filter at all.
I have always known Fram was poorly made, have never used it and not planning to use it. K&N has been ok and I have used Bosch premium one without issues. Motorcraft is not that good either maybe you should cut one open to see. GREAT VIDEO BY THE WAY.
Most teams in NASCAR, NHRA and IHRA among other sanctioned motorsports, use WIX oil filters. A NASCAR engine cost about 65k. I know I prefer to use a filter not made with cardboard and glue. My whole car is worth only about 1,600...
Just so you know they put rubber seals in some filters and they need to keep them from drying out during shipping so they add a slight bit of moisture so they don't dry and crack before installation.
FYI It make more sense 2 use lil bit of oil with rubber seal n gaskets then moisture Da moisture will eventually dry n rust where is oil doesn't It not rocket science jus common sense
I’ve been using Mobil 1 filters as of late. The moisture inside could result from coming out of an airconditioned environment into the heat, much like my glasses fog up when getting out of my airconditioned car on a hot, humid day. Of the filters you have, the Fram is junk. The Wix appears to be the better buy. The K&N had longer media, but the Wix was thicker. They have different filtration media, so without knowing what they are made of, how long each might last, or how well they filter and hold particles, I can’t say which is better. As many filters as you cut open, I would recommend to get a filter cutter. That will prevent unwanted contamination from your grinding wheel. The rust you saw could possibly have been from fine bits of metal from the cut reacting with condensation inside the filter. Good work!
I bought a acdelco oil filter, and was at walmart and decided to check out the supertech, i was surprised that it was 100% identical inside and out, so i bought 2 supertech filters for price of 1 acdelco.
Check out the warranties on oil filters also. Some of the warranties on oil filtersare only 3 months. I do a lot of driving so i change the oil my daily truck frequently but my wife only does about 7k a year. I use K&N on my Lexus and have used K&N and mostly Mobil 1 on my '12GS Vette. A good filter is really important on that car because of the high pressure in it from it being a dry sump motor built for high G forces. In my previous 7.3 powerstroke i used K&N and Mobil 1 filters always. My new 6.7 powerstroke i use Mobil 1 filters. Doesn't make sense to take a chance with a cheap filter. I would rather spend a little extra for more piece if mind and a better chance for a longer lasting motor. My Vette motor is 20k for the motor and my truck is about the same. No brainer plus the hassle. My brother in law had a work truck and the filter crapped out on his Ram and he was SOL. It can happen to anyone with anything but there are some that are more prone to failure.
I stock up on Napa Gold's or Platinums when they do their annual filter sale. Last time I picked up 5 Platinums at $5 each. Never had an issue with either. I cut them open after each oil change to check.
So he was just making this shit up? Proof in front of your face and still you guys can't admit you have been slowly killing your vehicles for years using fram crap. This is not the only video on UA-cam proving this. Baaa Baaa sheepys.
Never had a problem when I did use fram but heard horror stories and went to wix as a recommendation and never looked back. I did notice a difference in what I found in the oil when I switched from fram to wix. Not as many metal particles and the oil stayed a golden color longer by a matter of days. This was on a failing 351w. IMO the k&n is the best construction but wix is my preferred because of the price vs benefit. Though I have recently managed to clog a wix filter but gotta admit there was a ton of sludge and carbon inside the engine and switched straight to full synthetic from the gas station special oil
when it comes to filters you want to see yout protection level you look at the micron level and the amount of force sealing your bypass springs your standard quality wix filter is the exact same protection as the house brands the store tell you that wix makes they come off the line in black, white and yellow and who ever orders 20,000 filters then they got to the labeling line to have house brand names such as micro guard, napa, at one time Big A, carquest , pro-tec so on and so forth
Dishonest comparison. FRAM also makes a higher quality oil filter with the same type of steel backing. It's an extended life filter recommended for full synthetic oil changes. Ironically it didn't make it to this test.
If I had to guess, rust inside will occur if they sit in humid environments. Check them all after they have been in a really high humidity climate for a while
@@23727bgk also he found a bunch of glue residue all over the place that can possibly affect the filtration and possibly get into the motor that wasn't on any of the other filters. I suggest you watch the video. Just admitting you've been misled about your Fram filters. There's video after video on UA-cam about how they are the worst filters
My 1960s Volkswagen didn't even have an oil filter. Just a screen above the drain plug. It was about 80 mm in diameter. You had to remove about six or eight nuts with a 10 mm socket to get the screen out to wash it. Now that I think about It, you could almost rebuild the whole engine with 10 and 13 mm sockets. The flywheel bolt required a very large socket. To remove engine from car: undo throttle cable, remove 4 engine bolts, put old tire under engine, remove fuel line , pull on exhaust pipes, Presto! Just like magic!
You do realize the only thing you get for over engineering is a higher price. That particular FRAM filter is perfect for 5k miles of stock street performance and its 99% efficiency compared to those 95%.
Bradford Ramm Another thing to consider on the efficiency of a filter is the micron count. Many filters will say 99% for 30 microns, others will say slightly less BUT at 20 microns. It can be a play on words with some.
ksamos I know,frams is 20 (tough guard)check out their testing and manufacturing videos. They make three types of filters the xtra guard is the cheapest and lowest performance but the toughgaurds are very good values for mileage stated.
That wasnt water in the Fram, I believe the Fram has some sort of light oil in it to help prevent rusting. If you look into alot of the oil filters with pop-it style bypass valves, you will see that wet look on them as well. I usually like your cleaner videos because of there practical use but you have to do some research on oil filters before making judgment on quality. If Frams fell apart that easily they would be out of business by now.
I am not a Fram guy. But it will always sell, it's accessible anywhere to buy at good price. Fram endurance is the most expensive and is a twin of the Amsoil filter. I love WIX filters and will stick with that. I will use Fram filters for engine flushes and drain flush pretty much it.
I sell auto parts and a lot of people are very strong about busing Fram, but anyone with decent knowledge knows to never use Fram. Even the micro guard (cheapest filter at O’Reilly stores) are better
I haven't had a problem with fram at all, and I have been a fram man my whole life (for my personal vehicles) but after seeing this, I'm definitely going to take a second thought about purchasing one..... Let me add though I haven't really kept a car long enough (3 years tops) to see if it really does major damage to my engine I also used wix on all my work equipment for years 10 to be exact and it hasn't been NO issue to me at all!!
Trust me, if Fram was going to cause issues it would have done it with in 3 years. That being said I tend to use the Ultra because it is 99+% filtration at about $8
I also used fram all my life cuz my autoshop teacher in high school said so. Then I ran into u tube about a year and half ago about fram and all negative with proof. Now I mostly use Napa gold. Also I took my fram filter apart off my Cummins, no cardboard on that one. Must be the small filters only.
Thanks for the video. Please mention, in future cut open tests, the country of origin. I quit using K&N when they moved production out of the US. They are now made in numerous other countries and I suspect by sweatshop children. I'm currently using Mobil1 filters. Decent reputation and made in the US.
I used a frame 1 time when the part store didn’t have my wix filter size in stock. It collapsed and wrecked my engine! Spun 1 crank bearing, 1 rod bearing, all but 1 cam bearing and busted 2 lifters in less than a minute! Ac Delco is built like a frame as well! Wix all the way here!!!! It was on a 99 trans am WS6 Ls1 motor. Stay away from frame and ac Delco oil filters!!!!
Interestingly, approx. 1977-1991, I used FRAM ON EVERYTHING :filters( 1977 TA SPECIAL ED 6.6 Hurst Hatch),,, seemed to be great filters,no Problems,etc. ...... do not remember using much ACDELCO..........
Thank you and i have used filters, oils and they didn't show a immediate problem always. Example you could use a oil brand and get 200,000 miles from your car but use another and hit 400,000 miles. So it may not destroy a engine instantly.
@@phillipthomas5133 Yeah i know lol, i even watched that part 3 times to make sure he said what i thought he said. How in the hell did he come to that conclusion?? 😆
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I haven't bought any Fram oil filters in around 2 yrs or more. I have no immediate plans to go back to them.
I had just changed my oil to Valvoline advanced full synthetic and put a frame ultra synthetic on but after starting car could hear engine lifters for first time since owned car over ten years, switched to a Mann filter and noise quiieted down but now am switching to a Purolator boss and Pennzoil ultra platinum to hopefully save the engine long term
I'm a machinist almost 40 years one third of that was Automotive building stock and high performance motors and doing all the machine work and racing motorcycles and building them and the engines the rest was Aerospace as a prototype Machinist I've been watching these things and watching wear patterns for many years Fram in the 70s was pretty decent have the best-selling quote as you said selling but not the best filter especially anymore kind of like Champion spark plugs I would not use a Fram or a champion plug-in anything the only thing a Champions good for it's a lawn mower. But Wicks seems to be top-of-the-line or at least one of a couple I Wix XP with synthetic oil on my Nissan Xterra 320000 Mi still going strong thank you for the video
I use wix xp for many yrs. already. My 01 Suburban has 320k miles and doesn't use a drop of oil - changes every 7K miles and the engine remains tight using Castrol Synthetic.
Only use AC and Motorcraft filters, tried a Purolator one time and it came apart internally but was lucky my gf heard a noise and shut it off, checked oil pressure and was barely able to move the manual gauge. Pulled the filter, turned the motor over and sprayed oil everywhere so put a Motorcraft on it oil pressure up and still running today….that was 8yrs/140k miles ago….322k miles now
Used a fram filter on a fresh 355 chevy as a break in filter! Filter came apart starved the engine for oil ended my engine! Tore engine down found filter material plugging the oil pickup in the pan!
I used to use fram back before i knew better, then i switched to Purolator filters. Ive tried those K&N filters before and it seemed way over priced for what it was. Wix has always been a quality filter in my opinion.
The Fram Ultras are so much better inside.
I do have to say that the FRAM ULTRA SYNTHETIC is made really well & the filter is clean inside with NO SLOPPY GLUE
Bro a couple of bucks six is trash you need k and n the best and the ogs fram is on the wix category I dc what anyone says . All these wix users where did they come from ? It don’t make sense . They want everyone to use those filters . Absolute trash don’t harm your engine
The fitting on the end of K & N filters is so that one can use a wrench or socket on them to remove them without using any extra tools. It is not to keep it from blowing off a motorcycle.
The nut on the K&N Oil Filter has TWO (2) purposes -- Nut to remove filter -- Hole in the nut for safety wire.
K&N Oil Filters are used by pro racers -- the safety requirements call for a "safety wire" that keeps the filter from coming loose and blowing oil on the track.
You won't need a safety wire to get to the Piggly-Wiggly.
came here to say this
@@SlikLizrd lmfao 😂
It is though.
When he said bow off a motor cycle i was like huh ?!!! But i read the other replies and learned something new today !! Ty ! I thought it only had one purpose I would’ve never imagined wiring down your filter, so it don’t blow off while you’re racing. Your crotch rocket lol.
I use pennzoil ultra platinum with a wix xp filter and I am at 204,300 miles, bought new in 2016
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Hey Nate! Very informative video. Would you say that Royal Purples Extended Life Premium Oil Filter (which is supposedly the same as Amsoils Ea Oil filter) is superior to all the these filters?
@@stevenpetaki2738 i can check out those filters.
@@rolandlorenzo1780 they give oil specifications.
Nate, it has well known for years that Fram oil filter are very cheaply made. At one time years ago it was a quality brand product. You want something even cheaper look a Purolator oil filters. A good oil filter brand use AC Delco . Another. Thing is to do if if you don't known what brand to.purchase is get the OEM oil filter which was designed for that usage. Examples AC Delco is GM, Motorcraft is Ford.
Besides looking construction of the filter you need to check what micron filter paper was used. Also look at the backflow valve is Purolator is the worst if I remember correctly.
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I absolutely hate the click bait shit on the thumbnail of the video. Makes me want to just avoid it all together
But ya didn't
Agreed
Back in the '80's I stopped using the regular fram. I cut 2 used filters open ; on one I peeled the cardboard disc off the filter paper very easily, actually I saw gap and it peeled off from there. On the other filter where the filter pleats mate up with a steel crimp , it was not crimped on the entire length of the pleats! So that had a gap that I was able to insert a pencil into. ( thats a lot of unfiltered oil!)
Love wix xp Filters. Been using them for years. No Issues
I've always used Mobile 1 full syn and Motocraft filters on my Ford car I've owned February will be 17 years and 350000.0miles I've never had valve covers off the engine But the way oil fill is made U can look rite in on cam lobes and followers it even surprised me how clean she is even on Pcv side!!!
Never tried WIX, but I generally use Amsoil, or K&N, or Mobil 1, with no issues, so far
I have been using the Wix XP on my Toyota. So far, so good.
fram spends their money on advertising, not the filters.
Very true
Or strip clubs, lol.
Cut open a Fram Ultra. It's a whole different story.
@@Roostertailin I see your point but why would they put out a totally crappy product possibly damaging a motor and be ok with that and have their name on it, that's what I don't understand and with that being said, maybe start using low end product in other filters to save money and we would not know about it until someone cuts one open, just saying motor on.
@@williamschuman4951 My dad has been using Fram since he started driving, atleast that's what hes told me, and hes never had a problem. Yes, he uses the orange ones, still to this day.
Ive only used wix, I build engines in a machine shop and I can tell you that fram oil filters break the cardboard down and atip up oil gallies in the engine creating oil starvation issues
For the record, I'm going to point out that the Fram is of a different tier of quality versus the competition here. If you wanted an apples to apples comparison, it should've been the Fram Ultra, I use that filter of sound mind, the orange can is still fine for the specified OCI. They've been proven to be durable to a 6k OCI. I wouldn't run it on a GDI motor. But still. But I use the WIX XP if they make one for my application. K&N is a stout filter, but its just too expensive per the competition.
Yes we are looking at the high mid and lower price range.
I agree, the Fram ultra is the proper filter to compare to these two other filters. I would never use a Fram filter with the exception of the Ultra which is my preferred filter. The Wix xp and K&N are in the same price range as the Ultra. The orange can Fram is their lowest priced filter, even at Frams top end (ultra) I have never paid more the $8 and some change for one.
Agreed. People try to make Fram look bad. Well, my dad has been using Fram Extra Guards forever and he's never had a problem.
@@Roostertailin i used to use fram extra guard all the time till i took one off and the oil was just as clean as it was wheni filled it up prior to installation...had no filtration of the vehicle oil at all...went to Napa gold (wix) and have never had a problem since
Have been using the k&n filter for the quality and honestly the convenience of having the nut at the end
Nothing better than having your arm fully extended and trying to spin a filter off by hand
With the k&n not a problem
I agree 💯% with u K & N
No arguing that. Putting the K&N Gold on mine before my drive to Texas from CA. Very confident on the quality, and easy to remove when time.
Been using fram for years, never had problems. Will continue to use grams
I took a brand new FRAM filter apart because it was sitting on the shelf and I had no use for it. It had rust in it. I tried a FRAM Regular with a dodge 3.9 V6 and when I started the engine, the lifters would make noise at first, I also tried a FRAM XG filter and same noise. With the WIX it made no lifter sound at all. Thanks for the Video. Same Exact Oil BTW
I drive a 1ton diesel truck pulling hot shot.Been using Mobil 1 full syn and WIX XP filters.I easily put 10k miles a month on this truck,and change oil then.After seeing this,will surely keep on with current parts.
That royal purple one in last video should have blown all away it’s not a cheap filter!
I've used wix xp on my old 97 eclipse gs and now with my 2003 Mitsubishi lancer and I've not had any issues at all with them.
Andddd I was complaining because of my coffee filter style changing system in my car. Prefer that than water in my engine.
Wix for me. Never a problem great price.
You get water ie condensation in you car every day that's why short trip driving is severe service
Yes im noticing moisture in most filters some not noticable except rust.
Pennzoil conventional high mileage 5w-20 and wix spin on oil filter and wix air filter as well. Thats all the old civic needs
That's what I'm talking about. I just used Amazons 5w20 oil for my last oil change
@@hankschrader149 basics ranked high in project farms oil championships check out his channel he does alot of good things
I ran rotella t5 in my Jeep switched to pennzoil platinum and the engine runs smoother and i get better fuel economy 2mpg I’d guess in the summer and when I changed my oil pan out it was clean.
@@Floreypottery ...wow. same weight? Nice job keeping track and reporting it here! - thanks!
Nice video.
I personally use either a Bosch or a Wix. Used to use Fram Tough Guard but switched to Bosch. Which works fantastic.
One filter I will never ever use again. STP. I don’t care if they give it to me. Whether it is the blue or the ultra STP filter. A blue STP cost my a 75.00 tow bill. I was changing my own oil as I do. I had already drained all of my oil out. Started taking the blue STP filter off it literally crushed in my hand trying to remove it. Tried the screwdriver hammer through it. That filter would not budge. Why I had it towed. If I put oil in it it would all be lost in seconds through the crappy tore up blue STP that was shredded.
Same thing happened to my bmw x5 F stp
I think it's important to understand the filtering capability per the type of filter media and not necessarily just the media's thickness or length. As even the Wix is shorter than the Fram but we know that the media type is much more durable and capable from the WIX. It would be interesting to understand and compare the filtration capability of the cellulose media from the K&N vs the synthetic of the WIX
I use a large plumbers-type pipe (tubing) cutter to cut filters open. The cutter wheel goes right through the sheet metal of the filter. It also doesn't spray material all over. Otherwise, it can be difficult to tell if the debris in the filter is from the engine or the cutting process.
You're comparing it to a low tier Fram to WIX XP and K&N. You should've compare it to Fram Ultra Synthetic at least
They aren't much better
@@devindrewery4772 Yes they are
I agree use the same grade for a test. On the other hand cardboard and moisture shouldn’t even be in the lowest quality FRAM. Glad I’m a wix guy.
I was a technician at 4 different Ford Dealerships for a total of about 22 years experience and I saw with my own eyes a Fram oil filter destroy the crankshaft and bearings in a 5.0 Liter V8 that had less than 15,000 miles on it. When our regional Ford technical Rep. came and looked at the engine,he told us that this had been found to be a common problem when using a Fram filter instead of a Motorcraft filter. Motorcraft filters are made by Purolator to Ford's specifications. We had a TSB come out a short while later instructing all techs that using Fram filters would void the warranty on the engines from that point forward.
I always use wix.
Great quality
I use and sell Wix (O'Reilly auto parts)
So do I. Have for years.
Jason
NAPA gold filters are made by wix also
@@paulhunter9613 yeah I'd buy Napa filters because their cheeper then Wix I think. The Napa gold filter I get is only $8.00 and the one that says Wix is like $10.00 or more it's a no brainier LOL
I once used a Fram oil filter that I had laying around. I used it as a wheel chock and it even failed at that. 🤨
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Now that is haha funny!
Fram/Castrol Full Synth user since 1999 never had any oil related issues. Changed every 3-6 months base on how much driving was done spiritedly. Mileage for my cars 120k 170k 204k all Honda/Acura
I've been using the Wix 57502XP for years. Really like them.
I’ve only ever used K&N filters with Red Line oil and I have never had a problem. I change the oil at 3,500 - 4,000 and my Jeep has over 240,000 miles
I use wix xp and pennzoil ultra platinum oil. My 03 chevy blazer with 4.3 is still running strong. I change the oil every 5 to 6k miles. The oil still has a translucent honey color when i drain it.
I think I’ll try the Mobil 1 filter with the extended performance oil. I’ve seen wix filters and they’re great quality.
That Wix media is actually denser/thicker , and can trap more and smaller particles, as the oil makes a continual circulation through the filter, when the engine is operating of course. .. And can last a long service life without falling apart... I saw a video, and it is tough material with a screen-like inner backing. The cheaper filters use filter-paper made from cellulose (wood) fibers, some reinforced with synthetic fibers, some all synthetic. The K&N, is said to be treated with a resin to augment the filter media. The K&N cartridge for a Tundra looks like it will function as stated by K&N. They appear to me to be a well made product, and I can recommend them as I have used them multiple times. I avoid Fram because the 'economy' filters appear low quality. I know they market some top-end filters that are similar to other premium brands.
Length of filter material don't mean much. Would have to do a filtration test on it. Wix looks good to me.
I have only used Ford Motorcraft filter or WIX on my Ford's. Have never had a issue with WIX or the Ford Motorcraft oil filters. Nice video. 😊👍
Motorcraft is much better than FRAM but not as good as K&N, Bosch or others. If your OCI is not very long the Motorcraft would be more than enough.
@@robertogomez8100 for the price though they are very good I think they cost the same as the fram
I always used Motorcraft, until one time my store was sold out. I decided to give Wix a try, and I have to say I'm impressed with it.
I even use motorcraft on my old Chevy.
For the $0.50-$1.00 extra why not?
They are the best, they may not make them but they hold whoever does to a high standard.
I was running Motorcraft oil and filters on my F-150 until I found out they supported the Communist BLM organization. My next truck will be a Totoya and filters will be Wix. Still deciding on which oil to buy. I was planning on Supertech, but I'm sure Walmart supports the communist too; hell, I know they do.
I’ve used Wix in all my cars with zero problems. Most of my cars are a bit older (think 79, 89, and 92) so I’m very particular about what I use with them due to their age.
Yes i have used wix for some time because they are high quality. What would you like to see next?
I had always heard that Fram made terrible filters. Now you show us the proof, Nate. Don’t think I’ll ever use a Fram ever again. I think the Wix is. quality filter at a good price.
Wix is overall the better filter
That's sad you fell for this! Hopefully you are really young and just sadly gullible!
Edward Thayer fell for what?
Mobil 1 is the best balance between price and quality for screw on oil filter. Made by champion labs like Amsoil, KN. However much cheaper and using cellulose media. Also an extended interval type filter
While I use mobile 1, I was told they were made by farm to their specs. Like to verify that
K&N Oil Filter, Amsoil Signature Series, and Motorkote is an excellent combination!!!!
Walmart is the reason why Fram is the #1 selling filter
Ikr, it's all they have on the shelves.
I use this k&n filter on my truck, it's a tough filter and filtrates particles as small as 10 microns. I get it for around 10 to 12 bucks on amazon or walmart
@@tmaq9726 No, they also sell K&N, Bosch, Mobil 1, among others, and the higher end Fram filters are not bad, its the orange Frams that are bottom of the barrel.
Dont use the Supertech (Walmart brand) ones on a fsb. I wouldn't use a k&n if you allready have low oil pressure tho. Wix is good. K&n seems to need a good pressure
@@chrissanders2562 what? haha
I always use Napa Gold oil filters. They are the best as far as design, functionality, and durability.
Napa is made by Wix
Ya... Cuz it's a WIX lmao
People saying they've never had an issue with this brand or that, but if you did have an issue, how would you know? I used the cheapest Fram and AC Delco for years and didn't have an issue that I knew of, but switched to Wix within the last year or so when I started learning more about filters.
I’ve used all these brands and others like Bosch and Purolator. Other than on an old riding mower, I have never used an orange Fram....they are cheap for a reason! I have used the Fram Ultra and believe it is a top quality. I generally use an Wix or other name brand or the auto manufacturer’s filter and always spend extra for their top tier filter. Synthetic oil. 6000 mile change interval. Never experienced a filter failure.
I have used Fram filters (TG) Tough Guard on/off for over 30 years. I have known of their filter media and had heard of their build quality problems for about 5 years or so. In the time that I was a consistent user of Fram. Not once had I ever encountered a problem. Every once in a great while I would open a box and tge rubber gasket would be loose or dangling inside the box but that was very rare in my experience. I NEVER EVER have had a FRAM oil filter NOT DO EVERYTHING AS EXPECTED. I don't have the anxiety if the FRAM NOT DOING ITS INTENDED JOB and FAILING. WHY? Its because I drive a lot and change my oil well before the 8K- 10k or longer oil change intervals the car and filter industry are conning us into believing. I still change my oil even with useibg FULL SYNTHETIC OIL every 3-5,000 miles or about 50% on my oil monitoring computer on my car. Oil and filters are cheap, engines aren't.
I always try to buy American Made.... That being said I use AMSOIL Lubricants and Switched to Amsoil Filters... Several years ago, after I saw the Fram filter inside construction I stopped using them totally.... AMSOIL on all of my vehicles.....
One never knows how much wear is happening due to the quality of the filter. We are just trusting the brand we choose.
WARNING....I can't believe what was inside this video 🤣😂
Thanks for watching and i don't promote any brand but criticize them all the same constructive criticism. Maybe a little over the top sometimes and i Don't purposely mean to upset brand fans even my choice of brand is criticized if i see something.
Good one but i didn't mean to offend the fanboys or fram fan boy's
I wish I would have read your warning first.
I use Fram because orange is my favorite color.
@Wayne I have never used Fram filters, I just used the color reference to show how marketing departments use bold colors and designs to sell their products. Another good example is a lot of people buy oil based on graphics and bold colors of the container.
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I run a Spec Miata in race group. I only use Wix. I also have a 2004 Ford Lightning. I have only used Ford Racing filters but thinking about going to Wix Racing filters. K&N doesn't seem to be a bad choice either. I do like that it's individually sealed.
I used Fram for years and then I watched these videos and switched to Wix about 10 years ago, never a problem,,,,,,,
K&N filters have the lowest micron filtration... but the problem with using them, is people don't change them as often as they should. Better filtration means they lose flow faster.... meaning most people will often run them too long in high mileage applications.
Great information!
I used the Wix XP on my Honda Civic since the oil light didn’t come on until roughly 10K miles. They seemed to perform pretty well. I’ve used Fram before but I don’t anymore. My dad used a Fram one time and had used them many times before until the next time he changed his oil and the filter was completely dry.
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I have been using fram filters on all of my vehicles for 25 years. I have never had a failure. I have a 2005 Pontiac Montana SV6 that has run fram filters from 130000km in 2009 to current day where it has 431000km and a bunch of the oil changes were run for well over 10000km with the standard fram filter and standard oil. The engine doesn't burn any oil. It will only burn 1 liter over 10000km. I have run other engines that way as well. You can't tell anything about those filters from opening them up in that manner. The moisture in the filter is likley from condensation that would happen to anything steel that was taken fr a colder environment to a warm one in a short period of time where the humidity was higher in the warmer environment. That's physics. Proof is in performance over time on many different vehicles.
Many years ago, among other things I was changing the oil on my friend's dad's 1989 Lincoln Town car 5.0. He was old school and insisted I use a fram filter. I removed a Motorcraft filter. After changing the oil and starting the car, I got a waterfall of oil everywhere. It was spraying out from the Dram oil filter and I could not understand why. It was tight and I did not double seal it. I removed it and was comparing it to the Motorcraft filter. Something didn't look right. I stuck my left pinky into the Motorcraft filter and it went all the way in. I stuck my left pinky into the Fram filter and it stopped at the mid knuckle. It was not threaded properly so it looked like the filter was tightened properly sealed against the filter pick up, but it was not. Have not touched a Fram filter since that day.
A while back, I purchased a non running 2005 F250 with a wiped out valve train.
Found filter media in oil passages in cylinder heads that choked off oil flow wiping out the valve train.
Engine had the orange oil filter of death on it - a Fram.
Thanks for sharing with the NIA community
Our Pinty's NASCAR engine builder warned us OFF of Fram, especially the one with "Teflon" in it. Use "Mobile 1" or Wix filters, stay away from the additives, use Mobile 1 full synthetic oil.
This means nothing to me. Take the same used oil and divide it into three equally parts then run one third of the oil through the individual filters using the same method on each one. Finally through oil analysis of the used oil compare the contaminants in each of the three samples. The filter producing the cleanest oil wins regardless of any other chacteristics of how the filters are made.
I currently use K & N or Toyota OEM.
I like Hastings they also make filters for large industrial engines. I like how there filter always stays the same good old school quality.
I used to deal with the S.E. sales rep for WIX filters and they make alot of filters for other people. Of course they have different quality specifications for different brands. I believe he stated that there's only 3 filter manufacturing plants can't remember if that was in the U.S. or worldwide either way alot of brands on the market made by the same people. Something to check into. Maybe those cheaper ones are WIX rejects.
My oil got dirtier quicker with fram. Wix was the best I've got so far. I don't think i could ever go back to fram or the cheap crap. I didn't have any problems with fram per say but noticing the difference in the cleanliness of the oil sold me on the wix.
I have used K&N for over 10 yrs. And not even one bad filter ever. My Tahoe has 250k miles and running strong I always run full synthetic Mobil 1 oil. What I have noticed engines that failed well under 200,000 miles and spending the extra money on a quality oil filter and oil, Maybe a good choice if you want your engine to last longer. I don't cheap out on my oil and oil filter I also do it myself. I know I'll get 300K out of my engine. It don't use oil or leak for that matter. I run to Florida with it once a year and back to Michigan also pull trees that have fell mostly ash trees since the ash bores killed them off, i pull a all steel car trailer when I need to.and everything else with it, put that into perspective. My Tahoe is a 99 2 Door Sport.
K&N seams the best.. with filter details...
I bought a new Chevy pick up in 1991 with the 4.3 V6 and used Fram filters the whole time I owned it. I got 326,000 miles on it and still was running great when I sold it.
Early 90s 4.3 engines we're almost indestructible. At least that was my observation. Like the old Dodge slant 6 and Ford 5 L straight 6.
I wouldn't be surprised if one went 350000 miles with a decent OCI and no filter at all.
My 302 Ford had 375k on Fram pH filters and Super Tech oil and was still running fine as it drove away.
@@hotrodray6802 I guess we shouldn't buy those Fram filters lol
I have always known Fram was poorly made, have never used it and not planning to use it. K&N has been ok and I have used Bosch premium one without issues.
Motorcraft is not that good either maybe you should cut one open to see.
GREAT VIDEO BY THE WAY.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with the NIA community. You are GREATLY appreciated.
If you have a Ford use Motorcraft filter and never gonna have a problem.
Most teams in NASCAR, NHRA and IHRA among other sanctioned motorsports, use WIX oil filters.
A NASCAR engine cost about 65k.
I know I prefer to use a filter not made with cardboard and glue. My whole car is worth only about 1,600...
Just so you know they put rubber seals in some filters and they need to keep them from drying out during shipping so they add a slight bit of moisture so they don't dry and crack before installation.
FYI It make more sense 2 use lil bit of oil with rubber seal n gaskets then moisture
Da moisture will eventually dry n rust where is oil doesn't
It not rocket science jus common sense
All I use is WIX on my 07 G35 coupe.
Wix Xp use to be great but since Mann bought them they are even better
I’ve been using Mobil 1 filters as of late. The moisture inside could result from coming out of an airconditioned environment into the heat, much like my glasses fog up when getting out of my airconditioned car on a hot, humid day. Of the filters you have, the Fram is junk. The Wix appears to be the better buy. The K&N had longer media, but the Wix was thicker. They have different filtration media, so without knowing what they are made of, how long each might last, or how well they filter and hold particles, I can’t say which is better. As many filters as you cut open, I would recommend to get a filter cutter. That will prevent unwanted contamination from your grinding wheel. The rust you saw could possibly have been from fine bits of metal from the cut reacting with condensation inside the filter. Good work!
I would like to see you take apart and look inside of other oil filters as well. Like the Fram ultra synthetic Supertech and mobile one
I bought a acdelco oil filter, and was at walmart and decided to check out the supertech, i was surprised that it was 100% identical inside and out, so i bought 2 supertech filters for price of 1 acdelco.
Yes im trying acdelco and super tech currently
WIX 3 generations of use zero issues
I use the Fram Ultra synthetic oil filters and it works great 👍
K and N looks good. Can you please RIP into a AC Delco? You provide a great service sir!
Fram is the #1 selling because it’s cheap and they’re advertised all over tv and internet. I use mobile 1 extended life filter or motorcraft.
Check out the warranties on oil filters also. Some of the warranties on oil filtersare only 3 months. I do a lot of driving so i change the oil my daily truck frequently but my wife only does about 7k a year.
I use K&N on my Lexus and have used K&N and mostly Mobil 1 on my '12GS Vette. A good filter is really important on that car because of the high pressure in it from it being a dry sump motor built for high G forces. In my previous 7.3 powerstroke i used K&N and Mobil 1 filters always. My new 6.7 powerstroke i use Mobil 1 filters.
Doesn't make sense to take a chance with a cheap filter. I would rather spend a little extra for more piece if mind and a better chance for a longer lasting motor. My Vette motor is 20k for the motor and my truck is about the same. No brainer plus the hassle. My brother in law had a work truck and the filter crapped out on his Ram and he was SOL. It can happen to anyone with anything but there are some that are more prone to failure.
I stock up on Napa Gold's or Platinums when they do their annual filter sale. Last time I picked up 5 Platinums at $5 each. Never had an issue with either. I cut them open after each oil change to check.
When do they usually do their annual filter sale?
@@spritemoney For 2021, it was in March. It varies a bit year to year. I've seen it in October before as well.
I use Wix XP filters and Pennzoil Ultra Full Synthetic
Solid combination
Same here and I am still putting miles on all of my GM vehicles from 1994, 1995 and 2002. Changed valve cover gaskets and they are all clean engines.
Be honest used fram for years an zero issues I'll keep useing it
Same here
I have no issues with FRAM
So he was just making this shit up? Proof in front of your face and still you guys can't admit you have been slowly killing your vehicles for years using fram crap. This is not the only video on UA-cam proving this. Baaa Baaa sheepys.
@@jaycarl1562 look people use what they want and or can afford get over it numb skull
Fram's synthetic filters are also a much higher quality than their conventional filters
Never had a problem when I did use fram but heard horror stories and went to wix as a recommendation and never looked back. I did notice a difference in what I found in the oil when I switched from fram to wix. Not as many metal particles and the oil stayed a golden color longer by a matter of days. This was on a failing 351w. IMO the k&n is the best construction but wix is my preferred because of the price vs benefit. Though I have recently managed to clog a wix filter but gotta admit there was a ton of sludge and carbon inside the engine and switched straight to full synthetic from the gas station special oil
when it comes to filters you want to see yout protection level you look at the micron level and the amount of force sealing your bypass springs your standard quality wix filter is the exact same protection as the house brands the store tell you that wix makes they come off the line in black, white and yellow and who ever orders 20,000 filters then they got to the labeling line to have house brand names such as micro guard, napa, at one time Big A, carquest , pro-tec so on and so forth
Dishonest comparison. FRAM also makes a higher quality oil filter with the same type of steel backing. It's an extended life filter recommended for full synthetic oil changes. Ironically it didn't make it to this test.
He already did a comparison video with the top Fram filter. And even the top-of-the-line had rust inside and lower quality than the others.
If I had to guess, rust inside will occur if they sit in humid environments. Check them all after they have been in a really high humidity climate for a while
@@23727bgk also he found a bunch of glue residue all over the place that can possibly affect the filtration and possibly get into the motor that wasn't on any of the other filters. I suggest you watch the video. Just admitting you've been misled about your Fram filters. There's video after video on UA-cam about how they are the worst filters
Wix failed on our heavy equipment, moved on to Baldwin ,samples came back fantastic, still using today.
I use k&n with ultra platinum Pennzoil
smart man
me too.
Standard wix with ultra platinum
My 1960s Volkswagen didn't even have an oil filter. Just a screen above the drain plug. It was about 80 mm in diameter. You had to remove about six or eight nuts with a 10 mm socket to get the screen out to wash it. Now that I think about It, you could almost rebuild the whole engine with 10 and 13 mm sockets. The flywheel bolt required a very large socket. To remove engine from car: undo throttle cable, remove 4 engine bolts, put old tire under engine, remove fuel line , pull on exhaust pipes, Presto! Just like magic!
You do realize the only thing you get for over engineering is a higher price. That particular FRAM filter is perfect for 5k miles of stock street performance and its 99% efficiency compared to those 95%.
Bradford Ramm 😂😂👌
Bradford Ramm Another thing to consider on the efficiency of a filter is the micron count. Many filters will say 99% for 30 microns, others will say slightly less BUT at 20 microns. It can be a play on words with some.
ksamos I know,frams is 20 (tough guard)check out their testing and manufacturing videos. They make three types of filters the xtra guard is the cheapest and lowest performance but the toughgaurds are very good values for mileage stated.
Bradford Ramm You can buy a Wix filter for less then the tough guard. And id still bet it’s a better quality filter.
If you are changing your oil regularly it really isn't worth spending double or triple the price. Just change your oil.
wow! thanks for posting! I'm off to buy the Wix-Xp
That wasnt water in the Fram, I believe the Fram has some sort of light oil in it to help prevent rusting.
If you look into alot of the oil filters with pop-it style bypass valves, you will see that wet look on them as well. I usually like your cleaner videos because of there practical use but you have to do some research on oil filters before making judgment on quality. If Frams fell apart that easily they would be out of business by now.
I've seen brand new frams cut open that were rusted. For that reason and the crappy cardboard filter I stopped using them.
No way I would put that fram filter on anything not even your car
I am not a Fram guy. But it will always sell, it's accessible anywhere to buy at good price. Fram endurance is the most expensive and is a twin of the Amsoil filter. I love WIX filters and will stick with that. I will use Fram filters for engine flushes and drain flush pretty much it.
I sell auto parts and a lot of people are very strong about busing Fram, but anyone with decent knowledge knows to never use Fram. Even the micro guard (cheapest filter at O’Reilly stores) are better
I haven't had a problem with fram at all, and I have been a fram man my whole life (for my personal vehicles) but after seeing this, I'm definitely going to take a second thought about purchasing one.....
Let me add though I haven't really kept a car long enough (3 years tops) to see if it really does major damage to my engine
I also used wix on all my work equipment for years 10 to be exact and it hasn't been NO issue to me at all!!
Yes i have used wix with no problems i have seen moisture get inside all filters.
Trust me, if Fram was going to cause issues it would have done it with in 3 years. That being said I tend to use the Ultra because it is 99+% filtration at about $8
Bandito Bigmac I have used Fram for 50 plus yrs. No problem at all with them.
Chris Robb I use Fram Ultra on my Malibu. It filters great.
I also used fram all my life cuz my autoshop teacher in high school said so. Then I ran into u tube about a year and half ago about fram and all negative with proof. Now I mostly use Napa gold. Also I took my fram filter apart off my Cummins, no cardboard on that one. Must be the small filters only.
Thanks for the video.
Please mention, in future cut open tests, the country of origin.
I quit using K&N when they moved production out of the US. They are now made in numerous other countries and I suspect by sweatshop children.
I'm currently using Mobil1 filters. Decent reputation and made in the US.
I no longer use fram as of a few years ago. I use a better and cheeper filter. Supertech.
I used a frame 1 time when the part store didn’t have my wix filter size in stock. It collapsed and wrecked my engine! Spun 1 crank bearing, 1 rod bearing, all but 1 cam bearing and busted 2 lifters in less than a minute! Ac Delco is built like a frame as well! Wix all the way here!!!! It was on a 99 trans am WS6 Ls1 motor. Stay away from frame and ac Delco oil filters!!!!
Thanks for sharing your experience good or bad it helps the NIA community make informative decisions.
Interestingly, approx. 1977-1991, I used FRAM ON EVERYTHING :filters( 1977 TA SPECIAL ED 6.6 Hurst Hatch),,, seemed to be great filters,no Problems,etc. ...... do not remember using much ACDELCO..........
Thank you and i have used filters, oils and they didn't show a immediate problem always. Example you could use a oil brand and get 200,000 miles from your car but use another and hit 400,000 miles. So it may not destroy a engine instantly.
Did you say the 1 inch nut on the K&N is to hook on to a motorcycle or to keep it from blowing off?
Waugy 370z yeah that nut is welded on the filter for easy removal I think it even says that on the box😅
The nut is for taking off the filter the hole is to tie it from blowing off
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@@phillipthomas5133 Yeah i know lol, i even watched that part 3 times to make sure he said what i thought he said. How in the hell did he come to that conclusion?? 😆
Aircraft safety wire.
Champion makes aircraft filters and KN.