Zhong Pan: Contrasting Xing Yi, Ba Gua and Tai Chi (2)

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  • @ashzhu3085
    @ashzhu3085 4 роки тому +2

    真是好东西!感谢分享!国术需要有更多的师傅愿意交流和分享知识。不过这在国内挺难的。愿意教的少,愿意练的也少,神棍又多,习拳又难。

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому +1

      Yes, you are right and I totally agree with you. Thank you.

  • @pgskills
    @pgskills 4 роки тому +6

    Truly appreciate the details here explaining the three terms, their historical roots, and their different meanings in the context of martial arts. Your explanation of the differences in Zhong Pan among the three internal styles brings much clarity to a hazy topic. This series of lectures is truly helping me better understand the differences between Xing Yi and Ba Gua, in particular. Your description of where the tension is focused and the invisible circle composed of the arms and upper back in Ba Gua training is very much in line with how my own body feels after many years of training and makes a lot of sense. I was wondering if, at some point, you might want to share your thoughts on the particular 'body types' that longtime training in each of the three arts seek to develop. My original teacher often spoke about the importance of developing the Ba Gua body with its particular balance of strength and flexibility. Having trained since your childhood in all three internal arts, do you feel that your own 'body' is more influenced by one art than the other? You are obviously very concerned with moving in distinct ways depending on which art you are performing, but do you believe that one of the three styles has played a more prominent role in your own body's musculature, flexibility, and/or the types of force in which you feel stronger? Any information from you on this topic of Xing Yi body vs. Ba Gua body vs. Tai Chi body would be much appreciated. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge so freely, Sifu. Hope that you and yours are well.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому +3

      Some good questions. I think I will talk about it in a video format in the future. Thanks,

  • @LordReginaldMeowmont
    @LordReginaldMeowmont Рік тому +1

    Can you explain the differences between Cheng and Yin styles of Baguazhang? I'm learning Yin style and it's hard to find videos on it as informative as yours.

  • @mariosdiy91
    @mariosdiy91 4 роки тому +3

    Sifu I really appreciate the richness of your videos in terms of historical and cultural background. Thank you for sharing the knowledge that you have, your videos a very helpful for my practice.

  • @dravera2284
    @dravera2284 4 роки тому +1

    Every video of yours I come across makes me want to make flash cards about this information. It feels like the most structured and logical presentation of knowledge, not just about martial arts, I have ever seen. It feels like a college course and I am so happy it’s free! Information truly is priceless, and I think it’s very honorable that you put this information out publicly.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому +1

      Hello, thank you for your comment. I think it is a good idea to share the information with others in a structured way, and it is especially important to a long video. Thank you again for your encouragement.

  • @一樵-p5l
    @一樵-p5l 4 роки тому +1

    感謝老師的分享,龍折身,中盤需緊,好是關鍵。解答了我好多的疑惑 真的很感謝 老師的分享

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому

      不客气,大家一起交流,很好的事情。

  • @sadicossyisasi7022
    @sadicossyisasi7022 4 роки тому +6

    Excellent. An explanation that many instructors of the west ignore and mix with some extravagant esoteric things. These concepts were clear and really have the power to bring true meaning to my practice of Ba Gua Chang and Chen Tai Chi Chuan, but I find it hard to introduce on Yang Tai Chi Chuan practice. Thanks

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you, I hope more and more people will know this information.

  • @rogeliocasero5908
    @rogeliocasero5908 4 роки тому +2

    I am very interested in all these videos that concern the knowledge
    aspect (as you mentioned in your previous video); but I cannot deny that
    I am waiting impatiently for future videos concerning the technical or
    skill aspect. On the other hand, I have to express my deepest gratitude
    for the information that you are sharing publicly, because this deep
    knowledge is not easy to find in many western instructors. Thank you
    very much, master.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому

      Hello, thank you for your comments. I am working on the series of video lectures in order to present a much richer contents so that more and more people will understand the traditional Chinese internal practice. It is a systematical way of doing things, which will offer more benefits to the community.

  • @DaiAndrews
    @DaiAndrews 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you again for another excellent and informative video.
    I have been familiar with the idea of San Pan for some time but have never heard the concept explained with as much detail as you have provided today. I especially enjoyed the background and context information.

  • @gregbarnsdale4293
    @gregbarnsdale4293 4 роки тому +1

    Fantastic. Excellent video, your description of the 3 arts different emphasis on zhong pans is gold

  • @KlausBeckEwerhardy
    @KlausBeckEwerhardy 4 роки тому +1

    Another great video. The hip-circling I have encountered in Chen-style and in Wudang-style and I actually like to use it sometimes when going up the stairs in slowmo. I think it would be a prime exercise to train the elderly when they start to become worried about falling.
    Xiexie Nin for another informative and thought-provoking 22 minutes.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому

      Thank you. Yes, I think it is a good idea to let seniors to practice this kind of exercises.

  • @blazink50
    @blazink50 4 роки тому +2

    The information that you share is truly gems to those who have a interest in internal styles thank you sir.. if you can answer this do Bagua practitioners practice standing before doing circle walk or do they jump into circle walk from day one

    • @KlausBeckEwerhardy
      @KlausBeckEwerhardy 4 роки тому +2

      If I may: In our practice we often do stances in the warm up - and sometimes some linear or zikzak-forms. Quite often this is followed by bufa (linear in the beginning, circular later) before we work on the circular forms. Other times we do some more stances. But I think it is generally a good idea to walk straight (going from stance to stance) before try to walk in a circle.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому

      I see. i am very happy to know that we share the same opinion. Thanks.

    • @blazink50
      @blazink50 4 роки тому +1

      Hai Yang sir I’d appreciate it if you can answer this but when you said keep the upper back tight should the chest area in the front be right also or loose like the waist

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому

      @@blazink50 The upper back is tight but the chest is relaxed. Thanks,

    • @blazink50
      @blazink50 4 роки тому +1

      Hai Yang thank you soo much I’m working on standing training at the point so I’m applying this and man can I feel the difference good night and thank you

  • @wesleylammay4295
    @wesleylammay4295 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this content I practice Chen Pan Ling martial arts and your posts and this format in particular is extremely helpful.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому

      Great to hear! and thank you.

    • @wesleylammay4295
      @wesleylammay4295 4 роки тому +1

      Hai Yang I love the internal arts your help is assisting me in practicing these great arts more authentically.

  • @GFD472
    @GFD472 4 роки тому

    Excellent video! The materials you produce are very helpful and clear up so many questions! Thank you very much!!

  • @Aklukva
    @Aklukva 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks! Could you in the next topic explain the meanings of qi, zuan, luo, fan?

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому +2

      yes, an excellent topic. Will do it when I go back to the prior format in introducing for each style. Thanks.

    • @brunonunez1436
      @brunonunez1436 4 роки тому

      @@HaiYangChannel thanks, very interesting topic

  • @GodinFrederic
    @GodinFrederic 4 роки тому +2

    Hi Master Yang,
    a quick thought about the Taiji subtle circle movements you mentioned in the video. Would it be correct to say that some particular movements in Xing Yi also make use of these? For instance in the beng element I recalled at some point focusing on not only the horizontal plane rotation, but also adding a slight vertical plane circle to initiate the movement. Are these similar, are there conceptual differences between the subtle hips circles in taiji and the aforementioned one?
    Thanks again for all this knowledge sharing!
    Best,
    Fred

  • @ZalMoxis
    @ZalMoxis 4 роки тому +3

    Really appreciate this analysis....

  • @ry3002
    @ry3002 4 роки тому +1

    Shifu Yang, thank you for the informative videos. I understand that you are working with direct translations of Chinese terms into English where English words do not quite explain the intended meaning. May I suggest the word taut for tight where the word tight implied tension in the body and the connective tissues (referenced in the Bagua portion of the upper body). The upper back is rounded, opened, and lengthened from finger tips to finger tips of both hands. Thanks.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому

      Hello, Thank you for your advice. I will talk about your advice with my student. I have a student whose major is English literature, and I hope he can give me some advice too.
      Actually, I used this word before but some people say that if I describe a feeling, tight might be a better choice...
      No matter what, thank you a lot.

  • @colinchtsang
    @colinchtsang 4 роки тому

    Another video with valuable information and principles, a couple of which I have never heard of or explained to me during my 9 years of learning and I picked them up here in less than 30 min. Thank you Master Yang. I have one question and wonder if it can be briefly explained. If not then it's OK. I understand that some principles cannot be easily explained in 1 or 2 sentences. My question is: What is the main purpose of doing the vertical hip circle in Chen's style taichi? I thank you again Master Yang.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому +1

      Hello, thank you for your comment. Regarding your question: it is to practice the silk reeling at the lower dantian area so that force will be stronger.

    • @colinchtsang
      @colinchtsang 4 роки тому

      Thank you very much for answering my question Master Yang. I really appreciate that.

  • @yudisthiralistya745
    @yudisthiralistya745 4 роки тому

    This information is gold! Thank you.

  • @MountHarmonyFarm_Stories
    @MountHarmonyFarm_Stories 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you-pausing video as suggested and I see what you mean...thank you.

  • @Johnworksdaily
    @Johnworksdaily 4 роки тому +1

    Xiexie nin Jiaoshou! Very enlightening. Thank you for sharing your knowledge of martial arts.

  • @yellostallion
    @yellostallion 4 роки тому

    Thank you and howdy from Texas 😁

  • @onedirection3510
    @onedirection3510 4 роки тому

    Excellent content! 👏👏👏

  • @I-QUAN
    @I-QUAN 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this very clear and understandable video. I tried your suggestion of tightening the middle area with upper body relaxed in the ba gua stance and yes, could see how little power is transmitted through the arms and hands.
    As a curiosity I would ask , is there a fundamental link between the astrological and the martial terminology or did the martial artists simply borrow the language of the astrologers for some other reason? Thank you

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому

      Hello, thank you for your comments.
      Just borrow the terms to express the martial art concept. Thanks,

  • @shantinath1000
    @shantinath1000 4 роки тому +1

    thank you

  • @googlerfan7325
    @googlerfan7325 4 роки тому +1

    解說鉅細無遺 真明師啊

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 роки тому

      哪裡哪裡。視頻講解還是有許多的極限。

  • @taigongpisa
    @taigongpisa 4 роки тому

    ❤️

  • @Kungfu1
    @Kungfu1 4 роки тому +1

    松中有紧 紧中有松

  • @TheManofsorrows
    @TheManofsorrows 4 роки тому +1

    sorry I am not into fortune telling.