Division 3 Tennis Player with Two-Handed Forehand (Atlanta)
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2020
- Tennis player in yellow shirt recently played Division 3 college tennis. He was ranked #13 in the NCAA Southeast Regional in doubles for Division 3. He was also named Conference Player of the Week after going 6-0 in singles and doubles competition. Yellow shirt hits with a two-handed forehand and backhand and can hit left and right-handed serves and overheads. In juniors, yellow shirt was coached by Kenny Hirsch and in college he was coached by Rob Johnson.
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When someone starts serving from both sides, I pack up and head for the car lol
KW Tennis Nation that’s a good idea : ]
This kid has skills, he was just playing around.
He's awesome. I like his 'free' approach to tennis.
This could be one of the most beautiful court locations I've ever seen.
Must be a joy to play there.
It's super nice - no complaints.
Facts
You need to get out more.
Two handed slice, two handed drop shots, two handed jumping forehands and backhands, two handed volleys, impressive ! He just needs to work on his two handed serve and two handed tweener in order to take him to NCAA division 2 next year.
2 handed serve - that would be awesome : ] Maybe he does have one. I would put nothing past yellow shirt and his tennis tool box.
DJ DJ Two handed smash?
Wey Man he hits a left and right handed overheard. Have it on the raw video during warmups. Unfortunately the sun’s glare ruined it. Maybe we’ll show in future video.
hit to his middle and he will be confused...haha
william yeh that’s funny : ]
When I read “Serve with both hands” I thought you meant he somehow tosses the ball up then get both hands on the racket. Turns out he can serve both right-handed and left-handed. Haha 😂
funny! : ] Didn't think about that. You know...anything is possible for yellow shirt.
Me too. My mind was blown. Haha. Then once the match started half the time I'm thinking about whether that would be possible XD.
Well believe it or not. In my club, someone actually serves with both hands. He also smashes with 2 hands, does a forehand with 2 hands, a volley with 2 hands it's actually crazy haha 😳😂
@@ludovic0412 you should ask to film him for analysis.
Ludovic Smets need to get that person on video!
I know him too. Dangerous player. Very cheerful fellow and a happy spirit. You did very well to come back to 3-3 in the first and 5-5 in the 2nd.
Krishnendu Kes thank you. Almost...it’s all good. He’s awesome as you said.
This guy has the best two-handed forehand crosscourt return of serve I've ever seen.
no doubt. i agree. which one is his forehand? : ]
@@TennisTrollChannel he's obviously right handed. Guy in the orange served to his forehand every time but 2. Low tennis iq
Neal McCormick actually he’s left handed.
@@TennisTrollChannel no he's not, he naturally hits every overhead righty. Good try
This is yellow shirt. I'm ambidextrous. I'm naturally right-handed, but I hit with my left on the bottom of the racquet like a left-handed player. My right side is better for flat shots, and my left side is a little more consistent and better for drop shots
Dude’s got more angles than my high school geometry teacher.
I like this comment.
Your high school geometry teacher played tennis?
@@Apanblod My high school tennis coach was the geometry teacher!
His opponents: I'll use my serve and forehand to attack the backhand... Oh wait
funny : ] That's how I felt.
This is one of the reasons it's helpful to think of it as "strong side" and "weak side" instead of "forehand" and "backhand".
John Dunlap that’s a really good point.
He has a fluid, versatile and intelligent game
That's an excellent way to describe yellow shirt.
Coach: hit in his forehand!!!
Me: what forehand?!
This guy is very unique that’s for sure
so agree : ] Is he lefty or righty? We should take a survey.
@@TennisTrollChannel Looks lefty to me. His left hand is the lower hand on both forehand and backhand.
joe mitchell I believe you is right if I remember correctly. Nice observation.
He's so nonchalant with his shots. Feels like I'm watching a show where the goofy character shows up to fight and everyone underestimates them, but it turns out they're a badass. 😂😂😂
Richard Fincher [Tennis] that’s a good comment.
3:20 LOL what a cheeky bugger
AC Tennis well said : ]
Easily one of the most creative players I've seen, even on tour. I really hope this guy goes pro - I wanna see his style compete with the very best.
Wish there was more variety on the pro circuit.
This guy would never get an ATP point doubt he would even win a match in future qualies
@@jeffdas4502 Totally agree, he really has no weapons. Would get crushed easily.
Dude there’s 0 chance this guy goes pro. He’s a good player but come on. And there’s a reason vast majority of the pros all play the same style: cuz its the best. Two handed forehand is not practical and restricts the amount of power you can create
@@Gustavo-xz8os tell that to the great Fabrice Santoro. He's won against Federer, Safin, Haas, Ferrero, etc.
Hey dude. I just came across your channel and subbed for the content - love the variety of player levels across the channel. I noticed that in this match that your opponent (yellow) took most of his shots early, which is why he crushed so many balls. I think the way to counter this is to play with more topspin and keep the ball low to the net to stop him from getting his body over the ball (if that makes sense). Really enjoyed the video - can't wait to see more in the future :)
Thank you for the compliment and viewing. Feel free to share your opinion as well. Yellow crushes the ball early as you said - good observation as he is excellent at taking the ball early. I'll give your suggestion a try next time we play.
Wow he's very talented and has great hands! I'd love to see more players like him on the ATP 🤩 thanks for the video! 😊
that's an excellent point - need more variety in the pros. Hopefully there will be another Seles/Santoro one day soon.
At the beginning he hit a two handed forehand at his knees for a winner..... respect
Very enjoyable match to watch. Talk about variety and unorthodox shots!!! Very tough player, but you held your own and were mentally tough throughout the match. Your game is definitely improving by playing against different types of players!! Keep grinding Tennis Troll!! 👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏🎾🎾🎾🎾
Thank you for the compliment and feedback. It's nice to receive a compliment once in a while : ] Yellow shirt is fun to watch, but not easy to play against as you mentioned. Variety is yellow shirt's strength. Always guessing what is he going to do next as I have no idea.
You really find the most interesting players, that’s so awesome!!!
Most of your rally balls landed pretty short and made it easy for him to hit. Love his drop shots.
Agree - I need to drive the ball more or get more lift to reduce the short ball. Thank you for pointing that out. Yellow shirt is a unique player. His game is awesome to watch. Saw him play in a tournament - he plays the same way. It works.
TennisTroll Channel maybe you can suggest a yellow shirt vs green shirt match 😃
@@Tennisbull-match-statistics If there is interest and the players are willing, I'm all for it. Downside is they live on the opposite of the city, but maybe we can find a way to make it happen if there is interest. Thank you for the suggestion.
That would be a really interesting matchup.
Not sure if anyone noticed but this dude can serve both LEFT AND RIGHT HANDED!!! THAT'S AMAZING!!!
Exactly. Video title says he has a two-handed forehand, but actually he has TWO FOREHANDS.
or is it two backhands? : ] I think he has 2 of everything.
@@TennisTrollChannel Agreed! Kid can play no doubt.
wow...mad skills, great hand and so much variety!
Now THAT's a slice serve (amazing skills overall)
agree : ]
this was my college doubles partner :) we played well together. was always fun to be at the net while he returned serve. Hes good at stepping in and hitting on the rise. always set me up at the net.
glad to see he's still playing
Congrats on your success together - it's awesome what you two accomplished in college. Impressive stats.
. Very deceptive 2 handed shots and serves with two hands oh God, that is rare.
I like his style of play, mixing it up.. He should be playing on pro tour. Thank you for this.
agree - what side to hit it too? I want to see he is also left handed and plays right handed or vice versa. I don't know - I'm confused thinking about it : ]
@@TennisTrollChannel He is more of right-hander He serves often with his righthand on the ad court and some overheads I think.
The Stuff you got me. I tried to figure it out as well...gave up : ]
I am 49, and about to switch to double-handed strokes on both sides. Always keen to see if players like this are hitting cross handed on the forehand, or have two backhands like I intend to a la Hsieh Su Wei
The Yellow shirt player is playing with two (2) two handed backhands.
Awesome match, your videos are fire! I ran into a two handed forehand player at my local park where I live not too long ago. Interesting to watch technically, he was really good, but told me he wishes he would have learned 1 handed forehand has it offers more range.
Thank you for the feedback. One handed and two handed probably have advantages and disadvantages. however, the way yellow plays, I'm guessing he enjoys his two-handed forehand. He is quick too, so the range may not be as much of an issue for him as it would be for others.
Guy in yellow shirt - it must be so much fun to play tennis with all your skills! I'd rather watch you play than a pro match on tv lol ❤️
That was fun to watch. He initially reminded me of Seles, then more like Santoro with the crafty shotmaking. Also Hsieh Su-wei on the women’s side who has an unconventional game and is really entertaining to watch. I’m not a fan of the serve/drop shot like Kyrgios but I imagine with time this will also be considered a completely legitimate shot (but I’m not there yet).
Hseih is amazing to watch. I agree with you - He's like a combo of Seles and Santoro/Hsieh. So confusing to play against.
thors blot he almost got me with it.
thors blot I’m going to try. If anything it looks cool in UA-cam : ]
thors blot Right, it is a “legitimate” shot. Wrong word choice. My point was that it kind of goes against tennis etiquette. Similar idea as when you have the whole court open but you hit a volley right at your opponent and they get pegged. Legitimate way to win a point but not viewed so favorably.
2hfh drop shot return of serve is a thing of beauty and has to be so frustrating especially since he steps into perfect positions to crush that 2 hand forehand cross court in kinda the same look.
agree - that's what makes his difficult to play against - he disguises his shots.
Can we take a moment to appreciate this beautiful court?
Well said and thank you for the feedback. We'll try to video at this location again.
He is creative, has variety and a lot of guile. At times, it felt it he was toying with his opponent. Shows that you don't have to hit hard but have to outsmart the other guy.
I was so confused. Still not sure what to do next time : ] Which one is his backhand? I still don't know.
His two handed forehand landed low and fast. Your high topspin shots were ideal for his style of play
I agree. His forehand shots were tough for me to counter. Good observation.
I find using double handed drop shot puts more spin on the shot therefore ending up in more winners but not the easiest thing to do. A unique style hes got but super effective.
I used to play with a two handed forehand and this video was very refreshing. I use such an extreme forehand grip now with a one handed that I’m having more and more wrist problems. I’m considering swapping back now
ZAY if 2 handed prevents pain, that’s worth considering. 2 handed fh is very effective in my book.
@@TennisTrollChannel if it works it works
You did very well TTC! Your opponent here reminds me exactly of Fabrice Santoro. He doesn’t appear to be a tall player but boy he has a lot of power on his forehand, he really stepped into it, and hit multiple flat out winners, as well as a beautiful drop shot that he executed beautifully. A very entertaining match, one I hope you enjoyed, and I am sure a lot different tactical match than the one you just had against Mr. green shirt recently. Honestly, I just think he was a little better than you, but heck there is always someone better than us, or we would all be pros. You played very well and had a very respectable score in 6-4, 7-5. Your thoughts of the match? Keep the videos coming, you are doing a great job!
thank you for the compliment and feedback. Nice to get a compliment once in a while that doesn't start with "you is a -2.5 player" : ] My thoughts of match? One word - confusion. Do I hit it to his backhand? Which one is his backhand. Is he left handed or right handed. Is he going to serve left handed to start the match or right handed (he warmed up both). He can hit overheads with both hands...where do I lob? Wait, did he try to hit a drop shot serve? Why is he standing on the ally to hit a serve? What else can he do? Big point...what do I plan for? I dunno. : ]
Well, that was fun to watch.
: ] Thanks for the feedback.
“Does he play chess left handed” -BP Greatest Line ever
Crushing that return
Yes - I like his cross court return. Would not want to play him in doubles.
TennisTroll Channel deceptively consistent and accurate. Good player
So early and so stable cus of his two-hand grip the angles are murderous . But he can also choose to slice. Brilliant.
He's awesome and so confusing to play against. You is correct with the angles. He can generate some amazing angles.
great players both, two handed forhand player is even greater on a hard court than on clay! what a return of serve he has!
agree - he's tougher on hard in my opinion. Clay slows his shots down.
Mr. Yellow shirt is something else. He didn't play many rally balls. Probably 85% of his shots had a purpose and put you under pressure in some way, either side to side or up and back. And taking the ball early cut down on your time to respond.
Dude, you need to cover your forehand on his service returns. It seems like every shot he returned went hard to your forehand and you were rarely even close to it. If you take a big step to the right to cover it maybe he could be just as effective returning to your backhand, but you've got to cover and make him prove it!!
He has an awesome serve +1 game, too. I don't have a clue how to deal with that. And his nasty drop shots and spinning serves are tough, too...
Based on the points you showed, I don't know how you hung in there as well as you did.
He does remind me of Hsieh Su-wei, as another person commented, except he hits with topspin a lot more often... I like his game a lot!
Agree - looking back at the video - I should have taken a step to the right - or at least anticipated crosscourt early on. I did sense that in the second set and I think I did better (less out right crosscourt winners). I would not want to play against him in doubles. That's a solid observation. Unfortunately the sun's glare ruined some of the video's points. Maybe those were my highlight points : ]
@@TennisTrollChannel Based on the fact that you only lost by one break each set you must have had quite a few good points!
would love to play the guy in yellow shirt. In spite of his double handed shots, not a typical baseline bot. Has nice all-round game and seems calm, creative and imaginative on court and takes the ball early. Beautiful facility btw
It's cool to play someone as unique as yellow shirt. It's difficult mentally, but exciting as you don't know what's next. Nothing is routine with yellow. I think his variety is one of his strengths and he executes it well.
It’s like he’s playing chess when everyone is still on tic tac toe.
Biren Patel I wonder if he may have joined a chess club in high school or college.
Great match and I love the content you put out on your channel. In this match, I don't understand why you guys didn't play on the shaded court. It gets between 90-106 degrees F from 9am-6:50pm at our club, cause we have no trees that provide shade.
We would have loved to play in shade, but it doesn't work as well with camera. If the court is completely shaded, it's fine. When it's partial, it doesn't look as good on camera.
@@TennisTrollChannel Ah I understand. You guys were working up a sweat. Keep up the good work and I always enjoy watching you play against your variety of opponent's.
This guy has incredible game. Haven't seen anything like that before I don't think.
The only person I've seen similar to this on TV is Santoro. It's cool to see a similar style do well on the pro level. Hsieh is current player that comes to mind. Good luck with your new channel!
@@TennisTrollChannel Haven't watched them too much - gonna have to check that out. And thanks a lot Troll! May have to make an appearance one day :)
How do you keep stats on this guy? Forehand/Backhand? Is it forehand1 and backhand 1 or Normal forehand and normal backhand? Inquiring minds need to know! lol. Reminds me of that MLB pitcher who could throw right and left handed. But in all seriousness, this was a fun match to watch and like someone else mentioned what a beautiful location. I just came across your channel and you have a new sub. Great content.
Thank you for the compliment and funny comment. I agree - which one is his forehand? Which side do I hit it too? Is he left handed or right handed? So confusing.
GG all-round well played both guys, Mr two hands had so much variety and at times hit some filthy winners and winning shots. His opponent did very well to keep a grip on his game mentally and if Mr two hands was serving second the score could have been reversed.
Thanks for the compliments. Yellow is awesome. His variety is his strength. Never felt comfortable cause I never knew what else he could do and when he would do it. I wonder if I really saw everything he can do. He may have more crafty shots available that I didn't see.
@@TennisTrollChannel that thought is legit scary
Yellow shirt is the best player Ive seen in this channel lol
He's exciting to watch and can crush the ball with is forehand...or is it a backhand?
That slice serve is wild
I agree. Cool to see too.
That guy's backhand. Short back swing but so effective. Also, what do you use to attach your camera to the fence to record these matches?
Jason B duct tape and selfie stick
I played a kid back in high-school during state, 05. It was weird bc he played like that. Was a good challenge and change of pace.
The style is rare, but once in a while we'll see one or two. We are so trilled yellow shirt was willing to video. He's style is rare.
Yellow shirt, very crafty player! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
He's so fun to watch. Not so fun to play against : ]
Thats a clinic on ball control and versatility. I thought i was the only person playing a two handed forehand. Remember Monica seles? Both sides were two hands
Seles was amazing. Maybe the best 2 handed player ever regarding tennis achievements. Sounds like we may need to feature you on video one day. Two handed fh are awesome : ]
@@TennisTrollChannel I suck. It would be about what not to do. But thanks for the thought.
Great hand skills. Just... 🤯.
He's awesome. And very crafty. Fun to watch. Less fun to play against : ]
The guy in the orange shirt was never taught proper recovery positioning. He's always trying to get back to the middle. Proper recovery positions you so that you are bisecting your opponent's possible angles of return. It would make his court coverage significantly more efficient. This combined with a properly timed split step would allow him to get back shots he currently thinks are "too good".
Bill Cook that’s a good suggestion. I’ll try to make a better effort at recovering properly. Thanks you for sharing.
That’s an excellent suggestion. He’s not in the proper position to return these shots. You should always mirror your opponent’s position so you can cover the angle. Now to be fair the kid in the yellow shirt is pretty tough. His game is very awkward and his shots are extremely flat. He also takes the ball very early. I think to beat him you need to play high percentage tennis. A lot deep cross court shots with topspin to drive him back. Mr Yellow wants a short ball to smash a winner. The best way to beat an opponent like this is to make him beat himself. This guy wants to hit winners quickly. He doesn’t want long rallies. If you keep the ball deep and consistent he I think he will try to hit a low percentage shot for a winner and you can force some unforced errors. Also you have to mix up your serve. Every single serve is right down the middle right in his strike zone and Mr Yellow is teeing off on it. You got to push this guy back with a kick serve imho. Of course it is much easier to say this from behind a keyboard. But I think you could have a much closer match with him if you change you tactics. Good luck!!!!
Great match. Super tricky and talented player.
A Z thank you for the feedback. We have more matches of yellow shirt on the way.
i am here for the two handed super powers
They are cool to watch. Unique style.
Thank you for all this fun content!
One thing I would say here is that you could have taken far more advantage of his second serve. You were returning those from too far back in the court.
Good point - I need to take another step or two in. Thanks for pointing that out.
its so interesting to see different types of forehand and backhand techniques, they all seem to have success in as well. my guy in yellow does not belong in div 3 , if anything his skill is on par with most div 1 players imo.
D1, 2, 3, NAIA, and any college tennis are so competitive now. Yes, the top tier D1 players tend to be the strongest, but after the tier 1 group, the difference between the divisions is minimal in my opinion.
Excellent skills, very talented and smart. Felt like watching ping pong
alfprieto funny analogy, but I get it : ]
He is a very good player. Fabrice Santoro type. He is eating your lunch on returns but only when they where at the right speed and waist high or a little higher. To beat this guy next time IMO you will have to generate more pace and angles no groundstrokes and serve ... to stretch him out this may stop some of the drop shots as well ... I would also try some severe low slices to his forehand and approach behind them. Overall great entertaining match. Thanks for posting.
CEB thank you for the suggestions. I needed to move my serve more- he was definitely crushing returns in first set. That makes it harder for me to serve because I know if I miss the first serve, I’m under pressure with the second serve. More variety such as slices as you mentioned would help. I should consider adding some variety to my game. Thank you for letting me know.
Love the diverse game he has. Go Stormy Petrels!
Aaron Whitworth May feature two more Stormy Petrels soon : ]
If he could improve his forehand slice, it would be one of the most dangerous players in their league. It's so unpredictable and so beauty to see this kind of game
Brayan Pardo Perez he’s fascinating to watch. Not knowing what he’s going to do next makes him an exciting player to see in my opinion.
Wow his crosscourt forehand is like Bank!
spartyutube I agree- probably one of the best in channel in my opinion.
7:10 funny serve and effective.
Belajar Internet and annoying to return : ]
@@TennisTrollChannel but that's what you needed against that green shirt guy last week.
he's got sick touch
One of the best touch/feels on the channel in my opinion.
Two-handed forehand seemed to be playing around 50% intensity, at least from the way it's edited. Seemed he could've focused and won 2 and 2 if he wanted to. Love how early he was returning serves and the angles he was hitting. Not much you can do about that, except serve harder and closer to the lines lol.
Agree - we do have videos of him play more challenging opponents. They are in edit.
His thumbnail is dope!
Thanks : ] He does have a nice trophy position on his serve too. Makes for a good photo.
Are you ever in Central California? I think it would be fun to record a game with you 🙂
Occasionally. I am on the road a lot (prior to COVID). Send me an email if interested and if in future I'm in your area, I'll let you know. TennisTrollChannel@gmail.com
@@TennisTrollChannel ill send you an email.
Damn he is a good returner. I wonder if the double handed forehand helps with the return. Seems like it gives him better stability
I wonder that too. He crushes the returns. My sever isn't 140mph, but it isn't a lollipop either in my opinion. However, in the first set, my serve must have looked like a lollipop to yellow shirt as he crushed them.
awesome
Does yellow shirt play as a switch hitter in baseball?
Maybe he could be a switch hitter and a lefty/righty pitcher.
At first it looks like the guy in orange isn't moving around the court as efficiently as he could, but I think it's due to the fact that the guy in yellow is taking the ball so early, piling on the pressure and taking so much time away from the orange guy. I like the yellow guy's unorthodox style and aggression. Tough to play against for sure.
Well said - I felt like I was a step behind. Thank you for pointing that out. Makes more sense now.
Two hand forehand..you expect Santoro, you get Marat Safin
That's a good way to put it. Yellow shirt has power.
What a beautiful location to play. Yellow shirt has so much variety in his game. The good...Great disguise on those two handers and he works the angles like Seles... wide shots using the short court, etc....The bad.... so many shots to choose from that he's almost his own worst enemy out there. A lot of the points he lost were due to poor shot selection. The lefty serve wasn't much to speak of at all. The greasy serves on the deuce court from the doubles alley he was very lucky to get away with. I'd be so pissed playing doubles with him... you'd get hammered at the net. You cannot spin in these 40-50 mph serves and expect to get away with it against anyone who knows how to return. I bet after orange shirt watches this video he will play him totally different next time. Returns should be from inside the service line against someone who can't, or chooses not to serve more than 70-80 mph. You have to move that guy side to side with two hands all over the place. When you see him drop the second hand off the racquet, then move in. Every shot was either a drop or landed in the short court. Take advantage of that. Practice that backhand slice a lot more. Yellow shirt was not nearly as effective when he had to hit up instead of through the ball. He absolutely dictated on all of the waist high balls.
Yellow is a beast in doubles. That's his strength. Actually, he got to the finals in $$$ tournament recently in doubles. He was also ranked in college for doubles. Doubles fits his style more.
@@TennisTrollChannel With those angles on his shots and variety, I'm sure he is a great doubles player. I was only referring to that wide serve with no pace. As the net man, no way. I've been drilled too many times at the net because of my partner's weak serve.
J M I understand now. Thanks for clarifying. Also, no one wants to be pegged : ]
Dispite the fact that he holds both sides with both hands, the guy in yellow is clearly righty.. almost all attacks from him are coming from the right side, his left side is clearly a lot weaker.. so i would treat him as an "unusual" righty player, focusing on cross court strikes (i'm lefty).. his lefty regular serve is weak as well but i liked all his unusual serves, nice side spin.. i like how he gets the ball almost every time on the rise! cool stuff
Hitting on the rise like he does is impressive. Only other person I can think of that does it as often as him in Agassi.
@@TennisTrollChannel nice catch, Agassi does it a lot!
4 and 5 is a good scoreline against this guy!. Its important to keep the ball as deep as you can against someone who always looking to attack.
EZ e agree as he applies a lot of pressure. It’s constant. Thank you for the suggestion.
Tricky opponent. One tip. When he stands really wide on a serve then alter your start position. Stand in the middle of the trams. That will make that weird slice serve easy to get and he will know you have worked him out.
Good point - thank you : ] I'll try next time.
One question. He can serve with both hands so he is both handed. Why don't use each arm to hit single handed forehand for more flexibility?
That's a good question. I'm not sure his background on why he choose to hit with 2 hands on both sides but it works for him.
This match looks so one sided but you did manage to win some games
Agree - my style of play tends to not generate many highlight points and I'm ok with that as the purpose of the video is to feature the players and tell their story.
TennisTroll Channel yea I understand, my game is the same way !
I once watched a guy who could hit one handed forehands on both sides. I'm so jealous of ambidextrous people. It's not even fair! My tactic #1 is hit to the backhand and these guys are like "sure!"
Funny : ] There's a pro player with two one handed forehand. Think there's a few videos of him on UA-cam.
ngl i understand it, I've done it before just for fun and its unnatural for sure, but not uncontrollably weird. Its fun to do every once and a while
Very hard to play. He has a brilliant game!
Ian Lai I like his style. So unique.
Fabrice Santoro's son maybe?
Alex Sherwood I agree.
@@TennisTrollChannel He hits the return of serve right at the top of the bounce apex and comes down on it taking the server by surprise.
surfjabroni sounds right- I was surprised. I felt I didn’t finish my serve and the ball is already coming back.
This was my first thought as well. His game is clever like Santoro. His two handed ground strokes are left handed ... maybe from baseball? His dominate hand appears to be the right hand when pressured he seems to naturally go the right verse the left. Nadal is right handed by nature but taught to play tennis left handed. I watch this and think Seles with the two hands but he strikes the ball so different from her. Seles struck the ball so early at all times it insane she did it so well.
Very entertaining, but I would like to see some lower level matches. Seeing former college players or folks who can play in an open is almost like watching the pros.
Thanks for letting us know. Planning to show more variety of players so this is good to know.
No problem, I’m gonna get on video soon
josh w funny : ]
play with a guy who hit angles and it will be diferent... hitting only center court balls will not affect him... i want to see if he can hit crosscourt balls from side to side using two hands..
the orange shirt guy had such weird positioning after he hit the ball and opponent had to return. Because yellow shirt guy mostly played cross court and orange was ready to get a ball down the line everytime
That's a valid point. Should've prepared for more crosscourt.
@@TennisTrollChannel The split step is also pretty late, and that made you wrong footed
Very interesting. Must be confusing playing against him not knowing whether he's going to hit a BH or FH or whatever.
SV Lagonda confusing tennis match for me. That’s a good description. So much variety. Not sure what to plan for with next point.
His serves are good. They either push you back or push you away from the center of the court. I watched so many points where he just pushes u with a good serve out of the court and then throws an angle or a drop shot and the point just goes from there. I think you gotta play closer to the baseline and position yourself a lil better to avoid being played around the court by the yellow shirt guy. Tough opponent tho good job still!
Thank you for the suggestions. Need to somehow counter his angles/dropshot as they are good. I like the idea of playing closer.
He’s (yellow shirt) fun to watch..
I agree- it’s exciting to see a different style.
What the heck?! I thought I’ve seen it all!
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His style reminds me of Hsieh Su Wei, number one female double in the world.
She's an awesome player - and probably one of the most watched players too. Good analogy.
I sometimes practice with a better right handed player whose main sport is hockey. He hits two handed forehands and one handed backhands. Although I normally hit one handed forehands and two handed backhands, when I hit with this guy I mirror his ground strokes (left handed). In the lab is my cross-hand two handed serve. My notion is to hit a short serve with so much backspin that it returns to me without my opponent hitting it. If I can do that I'll get the on court love I've always deserved.
Hsieh Su-Wei has the grip part of her rackets extended. She puts her right hand in the middle of the grip and shifts the left hand top or bottom according to which side of her body she's hitting from. I think she also moves her right hand up a bit on the grip for some shots.
That is interesting. A viewer was asking if 2 handed forehands and 1 handed bh exists. Looks like the answer is yes. Hsieh is awesome. I didn't realize her grip was extended. How she hits some of her shots is unreal. It's as if physics doesn't apply to her : ]
@@TennisTrollChannel Hsieh doesn't have a racket or clothing contract - Mainland China does not approve. Fairly recently, her brother bought a Yonex frame but didn't like it. She said, give it to me. She liked it, bought a few more examples, and shipped them to her frame shop, which extended them from 27 inches to 29.
Stephen Lehr that’s interesting. Did not in on that. That’s a lot of endorsement $ that she can’t obtain. Bummer.
Whoa! Was that a left handed serve at the start of the second? And an underhand michael Chang towards end of the first?! Who does that?!
I wonder if yellow shirt grabbed a basket one day and said, hmm, I'm going to experiment with my serve today and then he found something that worked.
TennisTroll Channel yes. I think he is using his head a lot. His tactics are frowned on by many and virtually nonexistent in the pro ranks.... but why not try underhand serves.... and more drop shots - even on serve returns .... if u can pull them off.... your opponent will just have to get over it.
CEB if the tactic is fair, it’s fine in my book. Maybe I should try to learn a lefty serve tomorrow : ] if I can avoid the sun doing so, it would big a big help for me.
Next time you play him guard a little bit more on any cross court side either fore/back that he will naturally swing to. He seems to hit most of his shots cross court whether forehand or backhand. Don't center yourself in the middle of the court, keep him honest by recovering to the side where he will hit a cross court a bit more. guard both cross court wings depending on where the ball lands on his side. And I'm sure you will beat him next time. You can also try to serve to a direction that will force him to hit an inside out shot or a down the line shot. Also, you might want to slice some low short balls when he's on the run. His slice return looks very rudimentary. Try to make him uncomfortable.
I agree - I should take one step to my right. Make him go up the line. If he can consistently go up the line - he's too good.
This is pretty unique but I still have not met someone who does what I do. I serve left handed and have right handed groundstrokes. This is fairly similar except my backhand is one handed and forehand is two handed.
Sounds like we need to get you on video! We recently video a person with a right handed serve and left handed forehand. Similar, but not exact as he has two handed bh.
TennisTroll Channel sounds very similar. Can’t wait to see that video!
That Ben with the 2 hands?
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i don't know. he is one of those players that probably wasn't trained properly from an young age but have find a way to win nontheless. his forms are not that great. but he has very good understanding of the game. I think you could try to hit more on the rise against him you know take time away from your opponent not necessarily hitting it harder.
I think he was trained excellently. His 2 handed technique is great. Nice coil, hits the ball on the rise and has a nice trophy position with his serve. I do agree that I need to hit more on the rise - that is a good point.
It almost seems as though he is using two backhands. It looks like he is switching hand positions for each side he turns to. Not sure if that's far off or not haha.
I think you is correct - it looks like he switches hand positions.
@@TennisTrollChannel Good to know I'm not alone, I wasn't 100% sure if I was just seeing things or not. Other than that he played very well.
The kid in yellow is a really good tennis player. But what the hell kind of motion was that at 3:20?
Chris Rehr I think that’s a drop shot serve (not sure what it’s called).
TennisTroll Channel How many hours do you play a week. You've got game
@@TennisTrollChannel Hey were comments disabled on your channel? I was gonna mention that the 4.5 player against you had a lot of foot faults, but the comment section was nowhere to be seen?
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