USTA 5.0 vs College Division 3 Tennis Highlights HD | Tim vs Andrew
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2020
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Two sets vs Andrew, who is currently a sophomore at UC Santa Cruz and plays for the team there. Tim - dark blue, Andrew - yellow.
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1:43 nice to see honesty still alive.
At first I thought the dialogues were switched lol then I realized from the mic strength
Really good sportsmanship tbh, wish more players were like that these days
@Senuka Abeysinghe well, caring about the result of the point kinda negates the intention yeah
@Senuka Abeysinghe yea was way wide though, still early, i wouldnt want that point
Andrew's return of serve. Wow!
agreed, that's what I noticed on multiple points, blitz returns!
With a guy like that you have to serve to his backhand. Tim couldn't serve to the backhand consistently enough (easier said than done, I know).
He seems like the Djokovic of the public courts.
Personally I’d just run home and cry instead of even trying to return Andrew’s forehand, well played
LOOL
SAME😂😭
The amount of praise you gave him is amazing. When talent recognizes talent, there is no greater respect and understanding of the game. Kudos to you both on a match well played.
Entertaining match. The Div. 3 guy has a reliable monster in that forehand. He can control points almost instantly. His all-around game is impressive. Tim is a legit 5.0, unlike some others who claim they’re 5.0 but upon inspection, not so much. Tim did well to make it so close in 2nd set.
Andrew is tough for a D3 player. I assume you could play D2 or D1, although at D1 he would not likely be a top seed. There is quite a ranking variant between USTA and the German system. I play with guys at this level and they would be considered maybe 4.5 here. One of the club players I know was a D1 #1 players for 4 years and he is a 5.0 maybe 5.5, and his tools are greater than Andrews. Enjoyable watch; always interesting to see lots of variations of players at different levels.
@@timothygoss3987 That kind of assessment through a vid is problematic. Maybe, but probably not
I’d say Tim is more of a 4.5 at best, he has a lot of flaws in his serve, forehand and backhand form.
@@derrickchung5988 technique doesnt matter, as long as he wins matches. You can be a slicing pusher with no real forehand or backhand and be a 4.0
@@derrickchung5988 Id say hes more 4.0 he has no court coverage.
Andrew is teleporting around the court, so fast...geez
hahaha
Don't even have to watch. You can hear the level of play from the footwork,. Bravo!
Really love the content Tim. Super chill and growth focused without being too serious
Thanks! I really appreciate that
Something worth working on is developing a good reliable slice. From the points you highlighted, it looks like you only go to a slice to put up a defensive lob or to attempt a dropshot. Having a decent penetrating slice and a nice floating slice would compliment your game pretty well. You seem to have more of a counter punching style with occasional sharp forehand angles. Since you don't hit with a ton of power, having a changeup slice will add a lot more options to your baseline play. Especially on those crushing returns. Don't get me wrong, they're very cleanly struck, but most are landing near the middle of the court on your backhand side. From there you tend to either bunt back a soft sitting two hander, or pop up a lob which he would take advantage of.
I'd recommend getting some practice with chipping and charging, even if you don't particularly want to be at the net or if you don't have a short ball to take advantage of. It'll give you a feel for executing a quick and clean slice at varying heights and speeds which you could translate into more defensive and aggressive options. Rather than popping up a soft topspin backhand which will sit up for your opponent, a slow floating slice is much more difficult to attack off of since they'll have to provide almost all of the pace. It'll take some getting used to because the difference between a sharp knifing slice and a slow floater can be a few degrees of racquet angle or even a mildly different swing path/speed... but I think it'll help a lot in the long run.
I commented basically the same on slice elsewhere, people tend to not think it an effective offensive shot GO BACK and check some steffi graf videos!
the other thingi notice a lot is players having poor footwork as in no anticipation or movement prior to shot. damn when i was 50 I think I could outrun everyone I see on these channels. you guys get your butts in shape and let the freaking video games rest!
This is one of the most analytical/thoughtful comment I’ve seen on youtube. So informative 👍
Manic knows tennis...
more like having a forhand.
Watch the ATP Finals, Thiem used his slice to make his opponent generate his own power and was effective.
dude has an amazing serve mechanic! he uses his legs and torso so well to get explosive power. plus his hip rotation is perfect. kinda reminds me of a nick kyrigos type serve
Excellent video. Well worth watching and the technical info on your camera setup is really a nice addition. The intro and post-match breakdowns are also really worthwhile.
Really like all of your videos, Tim. Great tennis, great angle view, great video quality, great sportmanship from you as well
I think your post match assessment was spot on. Great playing guys!! Thank you for posting.
I agree with your points about return of serve. You mentioned his weapons though which was the difference in the match. He puts a lot on any forehand you give him the opportunity on and puts you on defense fast. Hard to combat that. Targeting his backhand with your serve helped loads. Good match Tim.
His forehand is so intoxicating! Love it
thanks for sharing. very talented, both and humble!
Andrew is a great player who hits with a lot of pace! I thought you played him well though
It needs even more pace though,you should be able to crush some shots once if not twice every few points
Could Andrew go pro? Is he good enough? I'm new to tennis
This guy reminded me of the matrix, when they start moving ultrafast. The headspeed is insane! However you made good adjustments and battled head to head on second set. I love your videos, keepem coming!
Thank you for the video. This is my favorite camera angle !
Enjoyed that! great editing. Thank for sharing.
Dang Tim, favorite video from your channel so far. Respect for you keeps growing
the match was very close... div 3 players are no joke... i agree with almost everyone’s comments... just keep playing these guys... i played div3 too when i was young... being a shorter player is harder against guys with big weapons.. u have to be better at everything.. just to make up the difference.. but i think u can get there!
is a divison 3 player usta rated?
GREAT match my dudes! Also great sportsmanship. A+
This was such a good match to watch! Andrew didn’t seem like he had a clear weakness. Thanks for the upload!
Interesting post, thanks for sharing. I played D3, 20 years ago. Wow what a difference vs now.
All sports have made monster steps up. I played D1 hockey in college. Graduated '90. Todays D1 guys all would have made the pro's in the 80's. Fairly true for all sports. Crazy stuff
High quality match. Both of you guys are excellent players!
Good match. I like how relaxed you are and you have good economy of movement. You can tell you really like that backhand down the line....nice weapon
Your overhead at 1:23 looks like my first serve 70% of the time😂. Great match, fun and competitive! 👍🏿
I (a 4.0) botch overheads like that regularly. 'course, if your strategy is to hit me those all the time, I'll warm up and start hitting them well. Need to practice more! Nice to know that even a 5.0 occasionally botches one :)
You played great! Awesome match and great challenge.
Thx for sharing! You put up a great fight against an absolute baller - Andrew is a beast!
great video! had fun watching it.
Yellow shirt gets the ball through the court quickly. Great service return, a few he waits and simply tees off. Great highlights!
Andrew is so aggressive on returns, forehand/backhands, volley, serves, well played. Also good job on ur part for hanging on, definitely a good challenge for you.
Loved the video Tim! You have a wicked slice serve on the deuce court! It seemed like you went for that a lot in the first set, so Andrew was able to anticipate it. But you started serving to his backhand more in the 2nd, which was a good call. Against a guy of that caliber you need to find a way to change up the pace and keep him guessing, whether its with more slice shots or rushing the net. Keep the videos coming!
Our high-school #1 played #1 for Harvard.. Harold Solomon came over after winning the "Orange Bowl" and played him;
Love & 5. I realized how many levels to the game there were. Watching your match with Andrew brings it home anew.
Great match, Tim. Despite Andrew was technicaly and physically superior, it was a tight score, thanks to your consistency, I believe.
Solid play guys, great pace, control and consistency, actual 5.0 play.
Andrew is a beast, when he's feeling it, he can really decimate the ball and dictate. Way to hang in there and use your athleticism especially in that 2nd set, making him an extra ball to come up with the goods or cough up an error.
Thank you for sharing 😊
Great video man!
this is more enjoyable than watching pros. so good, surprisingly good quality,
if I train hard, in my next life I may play like this -)
I am really impressed with the evolution of your game in the last two years. I would agree with what others have said about your defense. There were a few times where you could have redirected Andrew's crazy pace (with either slice or topspin) and get more depth on your shots. That's what I do to deal with hammer heads that I play with.
Wow, Andrew has a wonderful game! Fantastic groundies, and love to see him cutting off your patented slice serve on the deuce court by taking it early and giving it a ride with his great forehand. Overhead technique is a bit ... interesting though.
Wow very impressed with your performance👍
Great match play and congrats on the new 5.0 NTRP boost! I really enjoyed this vid...possibly more than any other one you've posted. I've seen you steadily improve from even a year or two ago. This guy Andrew looks like more of a solid 5.5/UTR 12 to me when he is fully rejuvenated at 100% lol. He's a definite offensive, athletic beast.
You really played him tightly, especially in that 2nd set. Looking forward to more of your content 👊
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed the content and appreciate you following the journey
You guys are crazy, andrew is more 4.5+ and Tim is 4.0-4.0+
nice hitting guys. I think both of you showed a great level. And given Andrew's level, you surprised me ! I thought you were gonna take the 2nd set, but nevermind. Great match!
Hey
Thank you for the nice video, you're a talented player. I have a question regarding the filming: What camera and what tripod are you using? I was considering filming myself playing to see my mistakes and to improve.
It was an amazing match. I like it!
I agree with your points. I would also add, and don't take this the wrong way, but his footwork and anticipation (understanding offensive and defensive zones) was very impressive as well. All around awesome player. I'm also impressed on how you managed to turn the second set into a nail biter.
That was fun to watch. If you are ever in Jacksonville, FL let's play!
If this is 5.0, then I am a 0.5. INSANE PACE!!! Good match!!
Yikes.
Was a strong 4.25 but haven't played in 6 years. Got back into it recently, 2 months now. Started at 3.75ish and way out of shape. My league started sept 21. It's Oct 16th now. Games up to a middling 4.0 now and the legs are finally coming back. Watching these guys movement, forget the hitting, just the moving is impossible to sustain.
I know if I really dedicated myself, along with fitness, I could hit 4.5 within a year. However 5.0? Watching this after playing a lot over the last 7 weeks, well that 5.0 dream may be a bit pie in the sky.
Interesting to watch vids like this when you are fully immerged playing. You really see things. And what I saw here.....5.0 is a monster step up.
Kool stuff
Good job in getting back into tennis and pursuing your goals! Cheers! Don
Dang, you got worked! This man was toying with you 😂 jk that was very entertaining to watch. High level play from both of you
Man - that was fun to watch! A couple of observations: [1] It also looks like Andrew consistently targeted your backhand on his serve, where you mixed it up (probably because his RoS is absurd and you wanted to try to keep him guessing?), and [2] Especially later in the highlights, it looks like you got caught inside the baseline on a few points - so your footwork (was noticeably rushed relative to 99% of your groundstrokes. First time watching your channel - subscribed and can't wait to watch more - thanks!!
These points are so intense!
High level! Good job!
more entertaining than some pro matches I've seen!
hell yea!
Tim, you were spot on with you assessment. He also moves really well to go with the big weapons. Good playing though. He likes rhythm, maybe junk him up and make him play different kinds of shots. Most people are good side to side, you are skilled enough to make him defend all four corners and make him play up and back, and junk him up ( slice, drop shots, drives,etc). Take you chances and make him beat you with the backhand, try and stay away from the forehand. Fun to watch.
That was a a more entertaining game than the French Open final this year. Well played both of you.
Hahaha thank you. Yeah it was a beatdown by Rafa except late in that 3rd set. Was happy to see him get his 13th RG and 20th overall
Hi Tim, Great Match...love your content. Just curious, what kind of camera do you use for shots like this?
In the video description :)
Great play from both of you. Go Slugs!
So nice play!!
This looks just like Rinconada Park in PA!
Awesome playing, btw!
Awesome match!
Wow you guys are really good!
I like TIm because he's a very good player and makes honest line calls too. That call he made against himself on his own serve ended up costing him the game. I hate cheaters who will do anything just to win.
Thanks! Being an honest person and showing good sportsmanship is bigger than winning a point and tennis at the end of the day
if you mean that serve from the AD court down the T, it was definitely wide. Those ones are easier for the server to see than the returner.
You should play on ucsc campus. It's breathtaking!
Andrew- massive power and pace. His backhand side was overall solid. A more aggressive and powerful player. You mixed up the shots well and tired him out. So close on the second set. Dang you can scrap up some shots. You did excellent.
His return of serve was killer. Good job though.. very entertaining match.
so close and hard to finish, his serve return and forehand are so tough, you did a good match with winners and solid game
I’ve been following your channel for a long time, and idk how I didn’t realize that you were in the Bay Area. Those are some of my home courts, maybe I’ll see you out there some time!
hard to even take a breath with a player as aggressive as Andrew. His foot work is impressive. Always on the move, always light and very athletic. Impressive
Andrew TJOA is such an athlete standing at 6'2". His UTR is 9. He was a 2-star recruit to UC Santa Cruz tennis team. Andrew was only 19 years old when you played him. Tim, you are doing so well!!!!
Loved the match! let me know if either of you guys ever visit Seoul, would love to set up a match between 4.5+ players here, should be very interesting ~ w love from Korea.
That would be super fun! Korea is definitely on my to-visit list. Really appreciate international followers
great match! div 3 guy is a monster, esp with return of serves. might be worth to work on the slice. also maybe if you stepped in to return his serves and take it early..it may have prevented the early serve and volleys, but then again i cant really tell how fast those serves were going. great match overall!
Andrew was absolutely phenomenal! Both of you fellas are really good. I believe Andrew came back from injuries rested and fresh. Obviously training every single day will wear your body out. It looked to me that Andrew has been resting well and you have been maybe not resting enough. Heck of a match though.
Solid fight! Andrew was more than a handful. You have a great slice serve- I'd use that more to the body (sliding toward the body) so Andrew is jammed and maybe even forced to step on this back foot. He's got bigger weapons, but I was interested to see what his conditioning was like (vs. yours) in a third set. Maybe you could have grinded him down... Maybe! Great video, thanks for sharing!
nice camera/video quality on the match!
Wow. Pretty nice match.
Interesting that you took away a point at your own serve at 1:45, while he gave you a point at 7:01. Both those decisions show respect to each other and pride on your own capability - each of you don’t want a point you don’t deserve, while at the same time you don’t want to rob your opponent.
Anyway, really impressive points- just watching it makes me want to go out and play as soon as restrictions are lifted here in Melbourne. You definitely raised your level! Even though the score in the first set seemed one sided, the games went really close. And the second set just got away from you - which shows his quality as a player. Probably one thing which may benefit you to improve is your return of serve, as you said, but continue playing high calibre players so you see which aspects you can improve. Keep pushing your game higher, Tim. All the best.
You played very well to keep the score that close.
excelent video
Jeebus, that forehand return is brutal.
Terrific match - really cool to see how the top tier of rec play matches up against college level tennis. Unsolicited feedback but it's super interesting to see at court level. Power off both wings and the serve is there but the big takeaway is D3 college tennis is just that 15% more efficient (movement, recovery, stroke etc).
Guess you just can't skip the hundreds of hours of repetition you get from taking on tennis competitively no matter how hard you work recreationally.
This dude doesnt get even an small improvement since my last 2 years watching this channel.
I played this dude when I was 15, his kick serve went over the fence and I almost cried after that. True story
His kick serve has only gotten better since too
@@tennistim you played great my guy, nullified his serve pretty well
Great match. Excellent tiebreak at the end very close.
You might try kicking your serve a little more so it’s higher and not in his strike zone. He’s taking it in his strike zone and using all of your pace to rocket it back. In the rallies you could try to execute patterns of play a little earlier in the rallies. Easier said than done against a big hitter like that.
Would gladly take a 6-0 beat down from Andrew for the sheer experience. 😂
Same hahahaha
Losing 6-0 is not gaining experience...its a beat down...it just tells u u need another 5,000 hrs of tennis training! 😂
@@minisurfbanana Got my 5000 hours in and ready to win 7-6....😆
@@sportscastercanada id like to see it
Andrew has a nice skill set, especially for someone coming off multiple injuries. With that said I would try these things to get into a 3rd set:
1. You control your serve, so try going to his backhand more. When he moves so far over like when you're serving in the ad court rocket it down the middle to keep him honest.
2. Approach the net more. See how he likes a target. Some people feel uncomfortable and rushed when they have a body right in front of them.
3. You wont win the ground stroke game with him, even if you always go to his backhand, especially when your hitting back court to backcourt, so I would work on hitting short topspin angles. It'll bring him out of position, he won't have time to set up, and it'll wear him down so if you do hit a 3rd set you might have more in the tank.
Thank you for sharing the video Tim. I want to tip my hat as your skills are solid too. Wishing you luck on the courts!
high-quality second set
where can you watch Andrew more on UA-cam?
very high quality forehand!
this is one of the best matches I've seen already.. I see you're still improving.. this guy is definitely better than all the ones I've seen before, but you pulled it of very well.. the impact of your shots are better and your first serve is very accurate too.. last set was very close.. What's the temperature over there actually.. it still looks nice
Thanks! Andrew is definitely a tough player and one of the best I've played against. I think it was high 80s, maybe close to 90 degrees F that day
@@tennistim so about 30 degr. C.. I live in Europe and it's about 12 degr. now.. 54 for you.. and I still play outside sometimes, brr
exciting tiebreak guys
I am by no means a good tennis player or expert and also since we are seeing highlights and not the whole match, I may be completely off. But what do you think of maybe having a better serve location? If you compare with your opponents serve, not only does he have a huge powerful serve, but was also deep in the service box. In the highlights, I felt that the returns your opponent hit for winners were to his forehand and not deep enough so gave him plenty of time to see it and hit really well and cleanly. Also what about trying to mix up your service since it's not as big as your opponents kind of like a baseball pitcher, mixing up locations, pace, and types of services? Curious about your thoughts on these suggestions. Thanks and really enjoy your videos.
Really entertaining match. Andrew is very good and you played quite well. I am wondering if hard hit , short angled balls would have helped you pull him wide a bit more often.
That was a really great match. Enjoyed.
Good match. Would suggest you go for more length on your serves and groundstrokes. A big FH will pick them off as happened in your match. Good luck and keep playing matches - the best way to improve.
Very entertaining match
Amazing racket head speed on Andrews forehand!