I got mine last week. I've used it... it's amazing. It's cool putting it down range next to your target and seeing your impact speed. Worth the money for sure
Everything about it but the price tag is amazing. Even the price is understandable when you use it across all of its platforms. Garmin just works, period.
@@Fite234 I've had a lot of issues with my instinct sadly. But yeah, the price is steep but fair, given it's capabilities. Even on the rifle range it seems smart enough to only measure your own rounds.
@Rikcey sorry to hear that and hope they took care of you. The screen on my S62 got punctured. They had a new one out as soon as I sent mine in. I'm super curious to see this used down range. Down range speeds would be awesome to see.
@@Fite234 there's definitely merit to knowing. I'm curious what the difference in energy loss is between heavy and light-ish arrows at about 50 meters is. Which is kinda risky with the old chronographs.
For a direct comparison of every shot would it work to place the Garmin directly in front of and just below the other shoot-through chronograph? Then you might be able to have two readings of every single shot in comparing results between the two units?
Seems like a guy could mount it to the end of a stabilizer for a very consistent distance from arrow with each shot. I think there was an old chrono that could do that back in the day, but it was inconsistent due to tech. Thanks for the content!
Nice video for the Xero C1 Pro using a Bow and arrow. Just one of the many options that can be used with this chronograph. I have been reloading for over 50 years, mostly pistol calibers and few rifle for deer hunting. I had been intrigued about using a chronograph instead of relying on the reloading manual for velocity of my reloads for many years. However, many just seemed to be somewhat of a hassle in setup and the potential of shooting the Chronograph. Newer technology made them look interesting like Lab Radar and another one (cannot remember the name but similar to LR). Then this came out and which will be a game changer because 1) Size 2) portability 3) ease of setup. Been looking at them since the first article back in October or November 2023 with many stores going out of stock as soon as they received their allotment. I finally pulled the plug earlier this week Jan 03, 2024 and received it yesterday ( 4 day shipping from Scheels). I will get out in a few days to put it through its paces for my pistol reloads and maybe take a rifle as well. Amazing product, wonder if others were caught asleep on this newer form of tech, but it does cost. Good luck!
Good to see THE BOW CHANNEL on UA-cam doing a review on this , It has blown up the shooting world , pretty much ending the Labradar , Im a long range shooter , pistol and PRS guy and its phenomenal , but I am also a bow guy , several Mathews , and this thing works great , no clamp needed like for the LR , they cant make these fast enough
The size and how it is always actively reading is a nice feature. But the Labradar can measure at your current location and down range up to 100 yards. I've used it with my bow to track the velocity from 0-100 yards. Could be something to use to compare the effect of fletchings or broadheads downrange on speed. The problem with the labradar is you have to buy a separate tool to trigger it to detect the shot. I use the JKL recoil trigger. It has a magnet I attach to the weights on my stabilizer.
I’ve never thought about using the trigger on the bow, just on my rifles… do you get good results using it? I always thought I might have to use the LabRadar bow add-on device/attachment.
I definitely like it but just being somebody that's at home. I don't know how soon I'll be getting one. I definitely would like to have one, but we'll see. Thanks for the video. Definitely like that as always
This would be killer for a guy like me that wants to use a chrono for bows, modern firearms, traditional muzzleloaders (buddy of mine lives em) and I even have a pump pellet gun I rebuilt the internals of specifically for power I’m curious about just for s&g’s If I buy a chrono.
Could you clarify/confirm that it actually displays downrange velocities like a LabRadar? Most of the marketing material and reviews I've seen on gun channels just show point blank velocities so they can read their ES and SD measurements across a group. Being able to actually read the downrange speeds (vs physically having to set it up downrange like you can do with any light-based chrono) would be pretty important for a doppler device.
@Juliang61 Yea, I could see how reliability and simplicity is huge for guys doing load development on a bench. The Hornady crew did a deep dive showing how actuals vary from posted BC based on how different a bullet profile is from the standard curves, but that's a bit out of my wheelhouse. As an archer, it seems like a prochrono could give me the same info, albeit less efficiently and worse form factor, lighting issues etc. But $599 vs ~$130... Garmin mentioned needing more free space before the target, but clearly here MFJJ showed it works in a small shop. With labadar you could go straight to long range and quickly evaluate velocity decay of different vane profiles, arrow weights etc vs moving it around and building a data grid. I have to imagine Garmin will implement that in their app down the road, seeing as the device should be collecting the data already.
Would you spend it if it was just for your own Bow (meaning just the home bow shop), or get the less expensive Chronograph - the difference is between building a complete set of RIP SS V1 with some to spare.
@@chrisfranke1759 You can use the included barrel mount. But it's totally sufficient to place it beneath your bow on a gorilla pod. Most of the time i'll just ask some one to hold it. The results change for 1-2 fps at max with 1m distance to your axis. Detectionrate with 100grs tips is >99%. Problem is rather that it detects not only your arrows. FX stopped including the floorplate with 1/4" tripod thread, but there are STL on thingiverse and it is a 10 minute print. I did use a magic arm blog.falkduebbert.com/images/510.jpg but it was totally unnecessary.
I got mine last week. I've used it... it's amazing. It's cool putting it down range next to your target and seeing your impact speed. Worth the money for sure
This will be the undisputed chrono champion of the foreseeable future.
I think you're right, seems accurate and is super convenient.
Everything about it but the price tag is amazing. Even the price is understandable when you use it across all of its platforms. Garmin just works, period.
@@Fite234 I've had a lot of issues with my instinct sadly. But yeah, the price is steep but fair, given it's capabilities. Even on the rifle range it seems smart enough to only measure your own rounds.
@Rikcey sorry to hear that and hope they took care of you. The screen on my S62 got punctured. They had a new one out as soon as I sent mine in. I'm super curious to see this used down range. Down range speeds would be awesome to see.
@@Fite234 there's definitely merit to knowing. I'm curious what the difference in energy loss is between heavy and light-ish arrows at about 50 meters is. Which is kinda risky with the old chronographs.
Garmin definitely has outdoor electronics figured out. This looks like a solid addition to their other offerings.
Love it.
Any reason why the Lift 29 Video got taken down?
For a direct comparison of every shot would it work to place the Garmin directly in front of and just below the other shoot-through chronograph? Then you might be able to have two readings of every single shot in comparing results between the two units?
Seems like a guy could mount it to the end of a stabilizer for a very consistent distance from arrow with each shot. I think there was an old chrono that could do that back in the day, but it was inconsistent due to tech. Thanks for the content!
I've been waiting for your review. Can't wait to see what other down range testing you do.
Nice video for the Xero C1 Pro using a Bow and arrow. Just one of the many options that can be used with this chronograph. I have been reloading for over 50 years, mostly pistol calibers and few rifle for deer hunting. I had been intrigued about using a chronograph instead of relying on the reloading manual for velocity of my reloads for many years. However, many just seemed to be somewhat of a hassle in setup and the potential of shooting the Chronograph. Newer technology made them look interesting like Lab Radar and another one (cannot remember the name but similar to LR). Then this came out and which will be a game changer because 1) Size 2) portability 3) ease of setup. Been looking at them since the first article back in October or November 2023 with many stores going out of stock as soon as they received their allotment. I finally pulled the plug earlier this week Jan 03, 2024 and received it yesterday ( 4 day shipping from Scheels). I will get out in a few days to put it through its paces for my pistol reloads and maybe take a rifle as well. Amazing product, wonder if others were caught asleep on this newer form of tech, but it does cost. Good luck!
I just bought that same new bow. I don't blame you for loving on it!💙🎯
Great info! Thanks
A bit pricey for the regular guy, but it is nice.
What happened to the lift build video?
It had no audio. Hopefully he still has a copy with audio
@@bigz5262 ahhh ty sir 👍
It would be cool if that could connect to the garmin xero, so you input arrow weight etc and it figures out your pins automatically.
man, gotta hope that's in the works.
I may be late, but something like this has been used in paintballing for a long time. It's called a virtue clock and costs about a third
Garmin simply works. I know that because I have used the A1i bow sight for 6 years. Flawless.
Good to see THE BOW CHANNEL on UA-cam doing a review on this , It has blown up the shooting world , pretty much ending the Labradar , Im a long range shooter , pistol and PRS guy and its phenomenal , but I am also a bow guy , several Mathews , and this thing works great , no clamp needed like for the LR , they cant make these fast enough
Would’ve been interesting to see if you set the garmin in front of the other chronograph and compared speeds on the same shot
The size and how it is always actively reading is a nice feature. But the Labradar can measure at your current location and down range up to 100 yards. I've used it with my bow to track the velocity from 0-100 yards. Could be something to use to compare the effect of fletchings or broadheads downrange on speed. The problem with the labradar is you have to buy a separate tool to trigger it to detect the shot. I use the JKL recoil trigger. It has a magnet I attach to the weights on my stabilizer.
I’ve never thought about using the trigger on the bow, just on my rifles… do you get good results using it? I always thought I might have to use the LabRadar bow add-on device/attachment.
It works great. I just use the magnet but you could velcro it as well. I don't remember it ever dropping a shot.
I definitely like it but just being somebody that's at home. I don't know how soon I'll be getting one. I definitely would like to have one, but we'll see. Thanks for the video. Definitely like that as always
Without a doubt that is going to be handy as hell. It's up there on price but sweet for sure.
Pretty incredible piece of equipment
Sweet, going to have to order one
Good to know.
That looks like a cool piece of kit .
This would be killer for a guy like me that wants to use a chrono for bows, modern firearms, traditional muzzleloaders (buddy of mine lives em) and I even have a pump pellet gun I rebuilt the internals of specifically for power I’m curious about just for s&g’s If I buy a chrono.
I have not seen you to continue to use the Garmin going forward like you said. I been dying to see this thing work with all lengths.
Can't wait to see some "down range" speed tests
Could you clarify/confirm that it actually displays downrange velocities like a LabRadar? Most of the marketing material and reviews I've seen on gun channels just show point blank velocities so they can read their ES and SD measurements across a group. Being able to actually read the downrange speeds (vs physically having to set it up downrange like you can do with any light-based chrono) would be pretty important for a doppler device.
it doesn't do downrange. However, it's super reliable, small and perfect for most people in the gun world where BC is already known
@Juliang61 Yea, I could see how reliability and simplicity is huge for guys doing load development on a bench. The Hornady crew did a deep dive showing how actuals vary from posted BC based on how different a bullet profile is from the standard curves, but that's a bit out of my wheelhouse. As an archer, it seems like a prochrono could give me the same info, albeit less efficiently and worse form factor, lighting issues etc. But $599 vs ~$130... Garmin mentioned needing more free space before the target, but clearly here MFJJ showed it works in a small shop. With labadar you could go straight to long range and quickly evaluate velocity decay of different vane profiles, arrow weights etc vs moving it around and building a data grid. I have to imagine Garmin will implement that in their app down the road, seeing as the device should be collecting the data already.
I think I want one lol but will have to wait till after I get the new lift..thx for showing us
Garmin does such a great job with most of their products. I wish the price tag was a bit lower.
Will be getting one very soon
I like it Garmin make pretty good products
Really wish it would do downrange speed like the lab radar
Would you spend it if it was just for your own Bow (meaning just the home bow shop), or get the less expensive Chronograph - the difference is between building a complete set of RIP SS V1 with some to spare.
Interesting vid pretty cool 👍
We love ours!..
but what happened to that video premier the other day?…
Only chrono I will use now!!
Very cool!
Pretty slick
I definitely need one
Look at FX chrono. they have a 2-3 radar ones
How well does it work for measuring pistol bullet performance using pistols?
I've been looking at this but price tag had me a little gun shy on it.
Looks like it would be real handy. Are you gonna try and re upload the Mathews 29.5 build that didn’t upload the other day?
I wouldn’t think so. As just installing the loop/sight/rest. Not a big deal
@@davefisher5196 yeah it’s not a big deal but it’s more podium archer content I was looking forward to
Can you do a comparison test between Xero C1 Pro to Labrador
Really cool I might need one 😂
I neeeeeeeeed that..........
Whatever happened with the video of the bow build that premiered Monday?
The idea is to not gave to use a big triangle and have the correct lighting.
Thus endith the age of big honking chronographs.
That string angle is money for you, totally off topic. Given the size, what it does… no brainer to go garmin
I’d trust the radar over the chronograph. Chronographs are to fickle to completely trust them.
I want one
Definitely cool just wish was a little cheaper lol
I'll stick to my FX airguns chrono.
How well does the fx one work for archery? I was looking at it, I particularly like the stabilizer mount option
@@chrisfranke1759 You can use the included barrel mount. But it's totally sufficient to place it beneath your bow on a gorilla pod. Most of the time i'll just ask some one to hold it. The results change for 1-2 fps at max with 1m distance to your axis. Detectionrate with 100grs tips is >99%. Problem is rather that it detects not only your arrows. FX stopped including the floorplate with 1/4" tripod thread, but there are STL on thingiverse and it is a 10 minute print. I did use a magic arm blog.falkduebbert.com/images/510.jpg but it was totally unnecessary.
MFJJ make a bow mount for it
Just get a lab radar and be done with it. I have seen chrono's be as much as 12 fps off!
nice gear but $600 to high.
MFJJ could review dog poop and I woulld still watch it.