Kiss Album Ranking Discussion Part 2 - Destroyer, Rock and Roll Over, and Love Gun

Brent and Brian discuss and rank the studio albums Kiss released in 1976 and 1977, Destroyer, Rock and Roll Over, and Love Gun.
0:52 Our rating system
2:14 Destroyer
28:08 Rock and Roll Over
44:55 Love Gun
1:05:33 Ranking Destroyer, Rock and Roll Over, and Love Gun
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[@daveycretin664]

I thought l watched part two and didn’t comment, but l guess I didn’t. So, here we go lads…
As a (former) singer and a guy who really doesn’t play any instrument well, I’ve never been a huge fan of production and producers. That is something l don’t have in common with a lot other UA-camrs like you and your crew, Big Poppa Pardo, Professor Popoff, most of The Contrarians, etc. Since you gentlemen are instrumentalists, you hear things that l don’t and are more familiar with all the technical jargon than l am. That being said, l do notice certain things - AKA different, or “bad” productions - that strike me as unusual. Two perfect examples: Born Again by Sabbath and Imaginos by BÖC. The Sab’s slab o’ wax always sounded muddy to me and the Blue Öyster Cult album sounded harsh and trebly to me. I guess l do kind of “get stuff right,” but can’t articulate myself in technical terms like “real” musicians do.
All of the previous paragraph was just a preamble to discuss my thoughts on Bob Ezrin. Probably, about twenty years ago, l realized that he produced a lot of albums that I loved. The Wall, his records with Alice Cooper, the three KISS albums he worked on, In the Spirit of Things by Kansas, etc. In fact, this will make an excellent future show for my channel. At any rate, the reason that I love Destroyer IS the aid that Ezrin gave to my fellow Noo Yawkas ova heyah! 😉 His bells, whistles, sound effects, production tricks and songwriting skills helped the band to learn and grow. You even said that Peter later begrudgingly gave Bob props for helping to push him. This is similar - to me anyway - to Phil Spector helping the Ramones on their Edge of the Century album, especially Joey Ramone with his vocals. Bobby baby gave KISS a studio sheen that they didn’t have before, which absolutely helped the band in the long run. That’s why they brought him back later to help with some other records. The next one he did with them, he was kind of “in a bad place,” and to many, it shows. I really dig that release, as a Prog rock fan. The last one they did together truly rocks. But more on all this in the future.
The followup albums to Destroyer are quite good too, perhaps I’ll give the edge to Love Gun. I’ve spent so much time talking about Ezrin that I’m not going to go on forever. ♾️ It seems that my ranking of these three albums may differ from yours. Here’s my little list:
3. Rock and Roll Over
2. Love Gun
1. Destroyer
Their first six albums are all really good. Production quibbles aside. The cracks start to show after this. Ego, money, lifestyle, different personalities, etc. The same old rock and roll cliches.
Another cool show, y’all.
Cheers from The Big Apple.
Rock Out, Prog On and Pogo!
Your clone and mine,
~ The Dynamic, Divine Doppelgänger of Davey Cretin, from CRETIN CLASSICS.
PS: I hope l explained my thoughts on production well enough, speaking “as a non-musician.”

[@underlordsuniverse7823]

Yeah, I'd say there's no right or wrong way to hear or listen to music - it's so personal and individual. That said, I agree completely with your assessment of Ezrin and his influence on Destroyer. It's funny, as a kid I didn't quite appreciate just how different that album is compared to the ones that came before and immediately after. It's weird to think, how would, say, Rock and Roll Over have sounded - and how would the songs have been arranged - if Bob produced it? We'll never know, of course.