The location has nothing to do with making fun of Mexicans. It's a joke within the car community to say you are in Mexico when you speed. The saying goes like "you can't get in trouble if you are speeding in another country. " It's just a way to legally protect yourself and in no way makes fun of Mexicans. I apologize if it offended you
I remember always having starting issues like that with my 289. Then once we fixed the wiring on the coil and attached all the wires properly to the alternator she started up an again like the day she rolled off the showroom floor! It’s always the little things!
Big thing for me on my 82 and my 66, was the factory coil location was a POS, Got way to hot right by intake. Relocated to shock tower and it kept it nice and cool
I've got the 70 Grande...NO POWER STEERING....love it....and no ac, no radio...just the sound of the 351w under the hood and the wind rolling over the top...LOVE IT>>>>>
Yesss. Manual steering is the way to go. Still have to adjust my steering box but I love the simplicity of it. It really isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be
Glad it happen close too home,saved u another tow bill,,I usually use heat shrink also,but that's my preference.on the road again,tks for sharing again young man..allways learning ,
Dropping that P/S pump is a good thing. My car ATE those pumps...after two I just took it out. The only 'proper' manual steering part is a different tie rod center.....which you do not need to change.....plus then you may as well do the whole tie rod as it will need an alignment. I can change the oil filter from the top and that's a plus. See you use the same NAPA fuel filter....I buy them 3 - 4 at a time! Running two right now with the new fuel tank. On the steering check your rag joint too.....once soft it will allow steering to become 'lazy'. Good stuff!
Dave & @fourspeedfilms - how much heavier is the steering leaving the original box in there and just removing the power system? Heavy enough at slow speeds that you'd ultimately want to go do a different ratio box? Thinking of doing the same to my car, but just a little leary of how heavy it's going to feel around parking lots & such
@@dannymcgirr On the first Gen Mustangs until the end of 68 the P/S was almost a add on. In fact a dealer could add it if customer wanted it. For me the car drives fine and I like the response and feedback. Only when stopped does it become tough and then even though I am north of 60 not bad. What you have to consider is if the P/S is integrated into the steering box and linkage. Then it becomes a whole different conversion. If it's a first Gen Mustang you can unbolt the power cylinder from the tie rod center member, leaving all other parts in place, and test it out to see if you like it. If not, just hook it back up......you will not even loose fluid! Good Luck.
Man I love the look of your mustang and the sound of it! Just a badass car! I’m restoring my 66 mustang and your videos keep me inspired to keep at it. Keep the videos coming 🤟🏼
I ordered a Rod & Custom Rack And Pinion/Disc Brake Conversion Kit With Tubular A-Arm System And Coilover Kit for my 1967. Had to ship in to The Netherlands. Should improve the (poor steering box) handling : ) But now I have to start cutting and welding : )
Both my three pedal 65 and 67 Mustangs were manual steering. The 67 had REALLY wide low profile 50 series tires. To turn, it had to be moving. You could not steer the tires standing still. As you progress with more power stuff, you might consider an electric fuel pump. It will help eliminate many fuel starvation problems. Keep banging those gears! Not many three pedal guys around anymore.
Years ago I got rid of the P/S on my '68 fastback, pulled the pump and it's hoses and just looped the little hose on the ram back to the other port on the ram, it steers easier than yours looks, still turns with one hand with a 15" wheel. Really dig the channel man, keep it up.
Hey Ben- great content. Hang on to that power steering unit ( rebuild it & put it in a bag on a shelf, labeled). Trust me. Oh- my mom drives a '69 GMC long wheel base with no power steering- but it does have headers. She's 89.
I just replaced everything on my 65 mustang and put all modern parts 5.4 2v with a vmp blower and a built 4r100 transmission. Electric power steering and ifs with a1 coilovers.
You mentioned you're interested in a new/rebuilt steering box. Not sure where you're located, but Chockostang does amazing work. I sent my box to him and got it back rebuilt to specs, cleaned up, and powder coated the original color. Made a HUGE difference and I would say it's worth shipping your stuff out to him regardless of where you're at. He's great to work with, too--I'm sure he'd be happy to trade out your power steering parts (pump, centerlink, etc.) for a manual setup!
Love that GTA intro 😎 I’ve been subscribed for a whole and love your stang. Im 24 in the UK and own a 66 289 mustang. Would love to install a gt350 bumper to mine. Love all your content! 🤙🏼
@@FourSpeedFilms any plans for a repaint Ben. She looks rough and ready but could be so much more. I hope you paint it before serious rust sets in. Love the videos and especially like the ones of you and your Dad.
yes to the steering mod. did the same thing on my '70 mach so that I could fit headers around the cleveland and clutch zbar. its a little sweaty driving it, but man do you feel 'engaged'. fun to keep planning and modifying.
Not sure about the stang but most old steering boxes have an adjustment bolt/nut/screw to take up any play in the steering wheel. Worth looking into if you haven't already
The same thing happened to me with my 54 Oldsmobile! We were bringing it back from a friends hot rod shop and it died. Turns out our wire was also shot..as soon as we replaced it it fired right up 💪🏼
If you upgrade to aftermarket upper control arms with more positive caster you will want the power steering back. It will increase the steering effort.
Electrical tip. Dont use the cheapie insulated connectors. Use NON insulated connectors with a GOOD crimper with heat shrink tubing. It will make your connections 10 times stronger.
Its always something and forever will always be something with these old cars. Glad to see it on the road. Only mustang I like. You should drive it out to Tucson AZ for the duct tape drags October 1st!
I switched out the wires on my coil in my 67 and was having problems of it cutting off at weird times and it took me a while to figure out the wires were just a little too loose. Don’t feel ashamed.
You inspired me to do the shelby drop on my 65 and I upgraded to QA1 coil overs thanks to you as well but my old girl was manual from factory and I got tired of fighting the steering wheel for almost 10 years. I Installed the Borgenson power steering kit last year and I'm enjoying my car more than ever. You are still young now but in a few years manual will get tiresome.
I remember back in the day being in your shoes with my own 65 Stang yes I was under it just as much as the time I spent driving it. Gotta Love it. Plus it is nice to see someone your age keeping the hobby going! I am 59 years old and still working on them today, But 72-73 Ford Ranchero GT's 429 BBF cars and yes going 4 speed if not a TKO or better. Need to order your 4 speed shirts - where can I find them. Thank you, and keep on building!
Loved that intro!!! You should keep doing funny ones similar to that, keep posting! Whenever I watch your videos it makes me wanna rip my 66 around town!
Did this in my 71 Torino. I needed the clearance for headers so I found a manual steering adapter. No more power undercoater. I was told to keep the ps steering box because that's what they did in the Shelby's to have quicker steering.
Always something is not necessarily a bad thing. Ain't no better feeling than when your car runs well after a "fix". BTW, I can always tell when someone doesn't work on cars much - they'll ask me "Why do jiggle wires so much?" Those of us who do work on them know that maybe 90% of the time you find or fix the problem that way. Not just engines, either.
You need a steering valve eliminator... the ball joint going to the steering valve is held in place with pressure from the pump. Its a death trap without it.
You will still have a big play in your steering cause the steering control valve has atleast 1/2 of movement. There is a conversion kit for that. You have to change that soon or the ball arm inside the control valve may break off cause it cannot take all that heavy work. Remember that ball arm acts like a switch it is not meant to carry all that weight and effort as a manual steering..
I have been contemplating doing manual steering on my c10 for a while. 1960's power steering just has no feel and is all about the assist. Once I rebuilt my power steering unit and it no longer leaked, it moved a little lower down the priority list, though. Manual brakes are amazing, though. I would never go power assist.
@@FourSpeedFilms Can’t disagree with that 🤣. It’s a shame LA is such a beautiful place in a beautiful part of the country but like in other cities poor government screws it up for everyone.
Have you thought about doing a electric power assisted steering (EPAS) swap? Grab a loose Pruis steering system, weld the shafts to the steering shaft, mount the system to the engine bay, and hook up the system to the battery. It gives you power steering with no parasitic power loss. I'm putting it on my '70 Fastback and '73 Bronco.
Man, you got to Sinaloa super quick with that upgrade. Lmao ….good luck on parallel parking, that’s going to suck. You will put it back on when you get a bit older. Lol
Do research on castor angle on manual steering alignment, my 68 Chevelle had negative castor which would be unstable in power steering aplications made manual steering feel lighter when moving I don't know if that would apply on mustangs
Really like your videos keep up the great work. Love your enthusiasm…reminds me of myself when I was your age. A quick tip…before you condemn that steering box get an eliminator kit for that control valve or change the drag link to manual. That remaining piece of the power steering system will give you unwanted slop in the steering feel.
In ‘75 when I owned my 71 Z/28 I had manual steering and it was difficult parallel parking with Firestone Wide Oval F60-15 bias tires. A fast back kit would do wonders on that car.
My first truck was a pos 95 f150 300 6 and while I loved it, it was someone else’s crappy project. The ignition coil was loose and bad ended up making it randomly shut off snd on every time I went over a bump. Eventually it wouldn’t start. One blown up muffler later, we found out it was the ignition coil. 25 dollar part, but always made it stall and die. Wires suck :/
Reading your title just made me think about my 1966 AMC Marlin 😅🙄 it seems like there if it's not one thing it's another. I just went through fixing or having someone help fix fuel issues, I even replaced the fuel pump and now I'm having some other issue with the carb 😅
Recall Nuisance!! i suggest extra cooling and retro a/c. then a roll bar with back and headrest support. really bad car to hit from behind. neckbreaker..
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You are a piece of shit for insulting a Mexican place watch your back ! apologies or take down this video !
The location has nothing to do with making fun of Mexicans. It's a joke within the car community to say you are in Mexico when you speed. The saying goes like "you can't get in trouble if you are speeding in another country. " It's just a way to legally protect yourself and in no way makes fun of Mexicans. I apologize if it offended you
Young, sunshine, California, vintage Mustang - you're living the dream, young man!
I guess the always something is what really makes our old cars special.
Yes!
Yes sir 👍
So true
After driving and owning both, manual brakes and steering is by far the most fun and visceral experience.
Hell yeah
I remember always having starting issues like that with my 289. Then once we fixed the wiring on the coil and attached all the wires properly to the alternator she started up an again like the day she rolled off the showroom floor! It’s always the little things!
Exactly👌
Big thing for me on my 82 and my 66, was the factory coil location was a POS, Got way to hot right by intake. Relocated to shock tower and it kept it nice and cool
For critical wire connections and to avoid the sheer inconvenience of the wire coming out I always solder the buggers on - its well worth your time.
True!
Currently working on restoring my 67 coupe and every time I need motivation I always come back and check 4 speed films. Keep it up Ben!
Hell yeah
I've got the 70 Grande...NO POWER STEERING....love it....and no ac, no radio...just the sound of the 351w under the hood and the wind rolling over the top...LOVE IT>>>>>
You live and you learn, it's great your dad and grandfather are teaching you!!
Yes 👌
Yesss. Manual steering is the way to go. Still have to adjust my steering box but I love the simplicity of it. It really isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be
I agree! All that pump did was leak
Nothing like manual steering, manual brakes, and a manual trans to give you a true classic mustang experience! Awesome!
That’s the only way!
I NEVER get tired of your car !!!!
Much appreciated
Glad it happen close too home,saved u another tow bill,,I usually use heat shrink also,but that's my preference.on the road again,tks for sharing again young man..allways learning ,
Yes only 3 houses away😂
I have a 68 with PS and factory AC - changing the fuel pump was a beating without a lift or jacks, lol. Keep up the good work.
Yeah it’s awful lol
HAHA that GTA intro! That was awesome. Thanks for sharing as always Ben.
Some one got it haha! Yeah I saw people were doing it online, so I thought I would contribute to the trend
Haha I was literally wondering is that from GTA?? So I went to the comments to verify
First thing I noticed lol I love it!
Dropping that P/S pump is a good thing. My car ATE those pumps...after two I just took it out. The only 'proper' manual steering part is a different tie rod center.....which you do not need to change.....plus then you may as well do the whole tie rod as it will need an alignment. I can change the oil filter from the top and that's a plus. See you use the same NAPA fuel filter....I buy them 3 - 4 at a time! Running two right now with the new fuel tank.
On the steering check your rag joint too.....once soft it will allow steering to become 'lazy'.
Good stuff!
Thanks for your help!
Dave & @fourspeedfilms - how much heavier is the steering leaving the original box in there and just removing the power system? Heavy enough at slow speeds that you'd ultimately want to go do a different ratio box? Thinking of doing the same to my car, but just a little leary of how heavy it's going to feel around parking lots & such
@@dannymcgirr On the first Gen Mustangs until the end of 68 the P/S was almost a add on. In fact a dealer could add it if customer wanted it. For me the car drives fine and I like the response and feedback. Only when stopped does it become tough and then even though I am north of 60 not bad. What you have to consider is if the P/S is integrated into the steering box and linkage. Then it becomes a whole different conversion. If it's a first Gen Mustang you can unbolt the power cylinder from the tie rod center member, leaving all other parts in place, and test it out to see if you like it. If not, just hook it back up......you will not even loose fluid! Good Luck.
I like the runner style driveway.
I've dug down between those to make inspection pits.
Man I love the look of your mustang and the sound of it! Just a badass car! I’m restoring my 66 mustang and your videos keep me inspired to keep at it. Keep the videos coming 🤟🏼
Thanks! I appreciate it
I ordered a Rod & Custom Rack And Pinion/Disc Brake Conversion Kit With Tubular A-Arm System And Coilover Kit for my 1967. Had to ship in to The Netherlands. Should improve the (poor steering box) handling : ) But now I have to start cutting and welding : )
Cool! Good luck
its sounds so HEALTHY!
The Stang is actually pretty happy rn😂
Both my three pedal 65 and 67 Mustangs were manual steering.
The 67 had REALLY wide low profile 50 series tires. To turn, it had to be moving. You could not steer the tires standing still.
As you progress with more power stuff, you might consider an electric fuel pump. It will help eliminate many fuel starvation problems.
Keep banging those gears! Not many three pedal guys around anymore.
5:37 Your exhaust setup is something else mam keep up the good work 🙌🏾
Ben, leave the power cylinder on. Your steering will feel tighter/more responsive with it on. Plug the threaded holes with plastic caps.
Get the 16:1 steering box which came in the gt350s etc when you do your upgrade. I just got mine from summit.
This channel deserves more subs
Thanks!
In an early mustang manual steering is definitely the way to go since the car itself isn’t that heavy.
Yeah it’s not that bad👌
That engine sounds GREAT
Your oil catch pan didn’t have the little yellow relief plug opened up, that’s why your oil wasn’t draining into the hole.
You can see it out on the edge of pan👍
Years ago I got rid of the P/S on my '68 fastback, pulled the pump and it's hoses and just looped the little hose on the ram back to the other port on the ram, it steers easier than yours looks, still turns with one hand with a 15" wheel. Really dig the channel man, keep it up.
Hey Ben- great content. Hang on to that power steering unit ( rebuild it & put it in a bag on a shelf, labeled). Trust me. Oh- my mom drives a '69 GMC long wheel base with no power steering- but it does have headers. She's 89.
Frikin awesome...¡ Starlight bowl, Castaways, De Bell golf course has been duplicated in Mehico...¡ My ol stomping grounds...☆☆☆
I just replaced everything on my 65 mustang and put all modern parts 5.4 2v with a vmp blower and a built 4r100 transmission. Electric power steering and ifs with a1 coilovers.
You mentioned you're interested in a new/rebuilt steering box. Not sure where you're located, but Chockostang does amazing work. I sent my box to him and got it back rebuilt to specs, cleaned up, and powder coated the original color. Made a HUGE difference and I would say it's worth shipping your stuff out to him regardless of where you're at. He's great to work with, too--I'm sure he'd be happy to trade out your power steering parts (pump, centerlink, etc.) for a manual setup!
Thanks!
Love that GTA intro 😎 I’ve been subscribed for a whole and love your stang. Im 24 in the UK and own a 66 289 mustang. Would love to install a gt350 bumper to mine. Love all your content! 🤙🏼
I said it before and I will say it again, that is one sweet sounding lil 'stang !
Thanks!
@@FourSpeedFilms any plans for a repaint Ben. She looks rough and ready but could be so much more. I hope you paint it before serious rust sets in. Love the videos and especially like the ones of you and your Dad.
Nice car. Great car. I like your videos. Fun to watch. Very enthusiastic in videos. Nice job man.
yes to the steering mod. did the same thing on my '70 mach so that I could fit headers around the cleveland and clutch zbar. its a little sweaty driving it, but man do you feel 'engaged'. fun to keep planning and modifying.
Got to love those Oldschool trans am race cars. Yours is looking killer and sounds great
Much appreciated!
Not sure about the stang but most old steering boxes have an adjustment bolt/nut/screw to take up any play in the steering wheel. Worth looking into if you haven't already
The same thing happened to me with my 54 Oldsmobile! We were bringing it back from a friends hot rod shop and it died. Turns out our wire was also shot..as soon as we replaced it it fired right up 💪🏼
If you upgrade to aftermarket upper control arms with more positive caster you will want the power steering back. It will increase the steering effort.
I guess my biceps will grow😂
Woot woot! New classic mustang video!
Thanks!
Seriously underrated channel. Needs a few hunfred thousand extra views. Wish the videos were a bit longer tho!
Much appreciated
Nice video, just helped my brother convert his 66 mustang to a V8. But yeah it's always something.
Awesome!
@@FourSpeedFilms Thanks, by the way do you know what headers you have ?
You do need a drag link adapter or MS drag link to get the play out and recommend a close ration borgenson steering box
Electrical tip. Dont use the cheapie insulated connectors. Use NON insulated connectors with a GOOD crimper with heat shrink tubing. It will make your connections 10 times stronger.
Its always something and forever will always be something with these old cars. Glad to see it on the road. Only mustang I like. You should drive it out to Tucson AZ for the duct tape drags October 1st!
Great videos, thank you. Try hellamen sleeving when you terminate your wires it helps to prevent the wire breaking where it goes into the terminal
I love that lil Mustang!
Thanks!
Open Tracker sells some really nice roller bearing idler arms. I added 1 to my 64 1/2.
I switched out the wires on my coil in my 67 and was having problems of it cutting off at weird times and it took me a while to figure out the wires were just a little too loose. Don’t feel ashamed.
You inspired me to do the shelby drop on my 65 and I upgraded to QA1 coil overs thanks to you as well but my old girl was manual from factory and I got tired of fighting the steering wheel for almost 10 years. I Installed the Borgenson power steering kit last year and I'm enjoying my car more than ever. You are still young now but in a few years manual will get tiresome.
Very cool - keep getting your hands dirty! And when you’re ready to replace your old steering box Drake makes a new box with the correct GT ratio 😉
For sure!
I love your mustang don't ever sell Ben it's a gem that won't be made any more
I won’t!
@@FourSpeedFilms Don't know why I wrote your Dad's name! Haha sorry about that Ben
The clutch dump at the end was rad!
Thanks! I need a tire sponsor 😂
Bad ass
Thanks!
I agree John!
That car sounds awesome! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks!
I remember back in the day being in your shoes with my own 65 Stang yes I was under it just as much as the time I spent driving it. Gotta Love it. Plus it is nice to see someone your age keeping the hobby going! I am 59 years old and still working on them today, But 72-73 Ford Ranchero GT's 429 BBF cars and yes going 4 speed if not a TKO or better. Need to order your 4 speed shirts - where can I find them. Thank you, and keep on building!
simply simply lovely
Exactly the direction I am going
Cool.................... 👍👍👍
Thanks!
@@FourSpeedFilms 👍🙂
i watch all your mustang videos to hopefully one day i could have my own keep up the good work !!
Get rid of that steering box and do the bolt in rack an pinion steering , you'll LOVE it !
Keep the power steering and run a heap of positive castor-that will make the steering heavier, and give more feel, and give better handling...
Loved that intro!!! You should keep doing funny ones similar to that, keep posting! Whenever I watch your videos it makes me wanna rip my 66 around town!
Thanks!
Did this in my 71 Torino. I needed the clearance for headers so I found a manual steering adapter. No more power undercoater. I was told to keep the ps steering box because that's what they did in the Shelby's to have quicker steering.
Try the EPAS... Electric steering assist. send your gear box in so they can rebuild it and have the proper shaft
Always something is not necessarily a bad thing. Ain't no better feeling than when your car runs well after a "fix". BTW, I can always tell when someone doesn't work on cars much - they'll ask me "Why do jiggle wires so much?" Those of us who do work on them know that maybe 90% of the time you find or fix the problem that way. Not just engines, either.
Smart haha!
You need a steering valve eliminator... the ball joint going to the steering valve is held in place with pressure from the pump. Its a death trap without it.
I have a whole new center link coming! Thanks tho👌
You will still have a big play in your steering cause the steering control valve has atleast 1/2 of movement. There is a conversion kit for that. You have to change that soon or the ball arm inside the control valve may break off cause it cannot take all that heavy work. Remember that ball arm acts like a switch it is not meant to carry all that weight and effort as a manual steering..
I have been contemplating doing manual steering on my c10 for a while. 1960's power steering just has no feel and is all about the assist. Once I rebuilt my power steering unit and it no longer leaked, it moved a little lower down the priority list, though. Manual brakes are amazing, though. I would never go power assist.
Cool!
Nice work Ben looking good 👌🏼
Thanks bro
I pulled the power steering of my 72 maverick and changed the steering box out for a quicker ratio a year ago. Best change I've made to the car imo.
Cool!
Yes it does.
Haha
what did you do to get the paint on your car to look like that i love that look?
Again? Well hot rods are, hot rods! Always fun!
Ofc!
such a killer car
Thanks! I
00:01 Ahhhh beautiful LA
Very scenic
@@FourSpeedFilms Can’t disagree with that 🤣. It’s a shame LA is such a beautiful place in a beautiful part of the country but like in other cities poor government screws it up for everyone.
Have you thought about doing a electric power assisted steering (EPAS) swap? Grab a loose Pruis steering system, weld the shafts to the steering shaft, mount the system to the engine bay, and hook up the system to the battery. It gives you power steering with no parasitic power loss. I'm putting it on my '70 Fastback and '73 Bronco.
Dude I love your car so freaking much!!
Thanks!
Another fantastic video my guy 👍👍
Thanks!
Man, you got to Sinaloa super quick with that upgrade. Lmao ….good luck on parallel parking, that’s going to suck. You will put it back on when you get a bit older. Lol
Nothing like a border crossing😂
@@FourSpeedFilms Interesting that Sinaloa accepts use of California plates on all the resident vehicles there. Verrrry interesting. hehe.
Do research on castor angle on manual steering alignment, my 68 Chevelle had negative castor which would be unstable in power steering aplications made manual steering feel lighter when moving
I don't know if that would apply on mustangs
Love your mustang! looking to get one for a project car
Thanks!
Really like your videos keep up the great work. Love your enthusiasm…reminds me of myself when I was your age. A quick tip…before you condemn that steering box get an eliminator kit for that control valve or change the drag link to manual. That remaining piece of the power steering system will give you unwanted slop in the steering feel.
Thanks! It’s already ordered
Man your videos really inspire me to work harder on making videos too
You can do it!
I did a borgeson conversion car drives like a dream now
Nice!
In ‘75 when I owned my 71 Z/28 I had manual steering and it was difficult parallel parking with Firestone Wide Oval F60-15 bias tires. A fast back kit would do wonders on that car.
Cool!
Another good video 👌🏻👌🏻💚
Thanks!
Thats Why I NEVER Use Crimp Connectors!!!!!!
My first truck was a pos 95 f150 300 6 and while I loved it, it was someone else’s crappy project. The ignition coil was loose and bad ended up making it randomly shut off snd on every time I went over a bump. Eventually it wouldn’t start. One blown up muffler later, we found out it was the ignition coil. 25 dollar part, but always made it stall and die.
Wires suck :/
Reading your title just made me think about my 1966 AMC Marlin 😅🙄 it seems like there if it's not one thing it's another. I just went through fixing or having someone help fix fuel issues, I even replaced the fuel pump and now I'm having some other issue with the carb 😅
Stay positive haha!
@@FourSpeedFilms I'll try to use your content as motivation to keep trying 😆 I'm glad your beautiful Stang is back again!
I would love to drive my C10 without power steering. Thanks for another video Ben
It's all good till you need to park..
GTA intro 🔥🔥🔥
Nice!
Thanks!
Love stick shifts
If you end up greasing and adjusting the steering box please make a video about it
Recall Nuisance!! i suggest extra cooling and retro a/c. then a roll bar with back and headrest support. really bad car to hit from behind. neckbreaker..
For sure!
Finally bro, been waiting for more content
Thanks!
Definitely try and get a steering box with close ratio
If it's leaking you know it's running. LOL
😂😂