aslında sevmiyor. phillippa gregory’nin kitabında henry’le sevdiği için değil sadece kişisel kraliçe olma arzusu için evleniyor yalan söyleyerek. çok ilginç ve güçlü bir kadını aşk üzerinden tanımlamak bence ona haksızlık
@@hightwr71 Henry onu boşadıktan sonra bir mektubunda ölmeden önce ki son dileğinin onu son bir kez daha görmek istediği olduğunu söylüyordu. (Bunu kitabı baz alarak değil gerçek tarihi belgeleri baz alarak söylüyorum) Bence kraliçe olma arzusunu taşıyan Anne Boleyn’di.
@@zeynepkorkmaz208 Bu çok normal bir şey, dönemin bağlamında düşünmek gerekiyor. Senin yaklaşımınla her dışavurumun gerçek olduğunu düşünecek olursak, Anne Boleyn de ölmeden önce Henry’ye olan sevgisinden bahsedip onu övüyor. Çok normal bu. Katherine’in yaptığı da bu. Tamamen mevcut koşullara göre krala saygı göstermek. Hatta Tsp’in final bölümünde de önünde reverans yaparak ayrılmıştı daha kolay anlaşılması için örnek veriyorum yoksa dizi çok da accurate değil. Ayrıca, Henry-Anne arasında aşk olduğuna dair yüzlerce delilden söz edebilecekken, Catherine ve Henry için bu yok. Zaten aralarınla “6” yaş var. Yani 20 yaşındayken 14 yaşında olan birine aşık olmak olası değil çok. Burada daha çok Henry’nin ilgisinden söz etmek mümkün. Philippa Gregory’nin The Constant Princess kitabından alıntılama zaten dizi. Ama kitapta da aralarında bir aşk yok. Philippa Gregory dönemi çok iyi okuyan bir tarihçi-yazar.
@@hightwr71 sadece biraz düşünsen ve araştırsan bile henry'nin neredeyse kath'e taptığını anlayabilirsin. ama insan inanmak istediğine inanır sonuçta. sana taraflı düşüncenle hayatında başarılar diliyorum 🤡
Henry was a great king during his first 25 years In his youth he was very VERY much beloved. It wasn't until the Boylen family entered the picture that his rule started to get bad. Plus his head trauma, and open leg wound. His desperation for a son. The family trait of paranoia. People wanna be so desperate to think he was a horrible king all his life. But studies have shown otherwise. He was not always a tyrant that came when he broke from Rome. Which was the fault of a very ambitious Anne Boylen who did not want to be just a kings mistress. Even though she would have been able to marry a Duke.
He didn’t deserve her at all !!! She was one true beautiful Queen strong and dedicated to her duties faithful outstanding human being she was RIP Catherine of Aragon 🦋 May your beautiful soul rest in paradise ❤️
I really loved Catherine, Henry doesnt appriciate nothing that shes done she practically saved England from the scots with common men and women while he was waiting for the French to show. Btw great video loved it 🙃😁
correct me if im wrong but didnt his mom and her mother lay curse on anyone who harm the son of york that that persons family will never have a boy child
Elizabeth Woodville (Henry’s grandmother) and Elizabeth of York (mother) did curse the bloodline of the murderer of the York boys yes you’re right. This happened before Richard III was killed in battle and no one knew who killed the boys in the tower. Then Henry VII’s (Henry’s father) mother (grandmother) admitted to having them killed and Elizabeth realised she had cursed her own bloodline.
I hated the fact yhat she battles in the fight during the show. I was on Henrys side when he said "you admit losing our son trying to be a man" i felt his pain there. Cause historically she never put her or her babies life in danger like that. She was never at the actual battle. She did command the army but never at the front.
Maybe just me but i hate her for lying about laying with Authur and the fact she wanted to be a queen so badly. She was willing to build a mariage on a lie. Feel like she dug a hole for herself. 🤨🤨🤨 i love her in the history but not this show.
I feel sorry for her. She was such a good queen in history. And she really loved him.
aslında sevmiyor. phillippa gregory’nin kitabında henry’le sevdiği için değil sadece kişisel kraliçe olma arzusu için evleniyor yalan söyleyerek. çok ilginç ve güçlü bir kadını aşk üzerinden tanımlamak bence ona haksızlık
@@hightwr71 Henry onu boşadıktan sonra bir mektubunda ölmeden önce ki son dileğinin onu son bir kez daha görmek istediği olduğunu söylüyordu. (Bunu kitabı baz alarak değil gerçek tarihi belgeleri baz alarak söylüyorum) Bence kraliçe olma arzusunu taşıyan Anne Boleyn’di.
@@zeynepkorkmaz208 Bu çok normal bir şey, dönemin bağlamında düşünmek gerekiyor. Senin yaklaşımınla her dışavurumun gerçek olduğunu düşünecek olursak, Anne Boleyn de ölmeden önce Henry’ye olan sevgisinden bahsedip onu övüyor. Çok normal bu. Katherine’in yaptığı da bu. Tamamen mevcut koşullara göre krala saygı göstermek. Hatta Tsp’in final bölümünde de önünde reverans yaparak ayrılmıştı daha kolay anlaşılması için örnek veriyorum yoksa dizi çok da accurate değil.
Ayrıca, Henry-Anne arasında aşk olduğuna dair yüzlerce delilden söz edebilecekken, Catherine ve Henry için bu yok. Zaten aralarınla “6” yaş var. Yani 20 yaşındayken 14 yaşında olan birine aşık olmak olası değil çok. Burada daha çok Henry’nin ilgisinden söz etmek mümkün.
Philippa Gregory’nin The Constant Princess kitabından alıntılama zaten dizi. Ama kitapta da aralarında bir aşk yok. Philippa Gregory dönemi çok iyi okuyan bir tarihçi-yazar.
@@hightwr71 Philippa Gregory den tarih öğrendiğini sanıyor bir de asdfgasda neremle güleceğimi bilemedim kusura bakma
@@hightwr71 sadece biraz düşünsen ve araştırsan bile henry'nin neredeyse kath'e taptığını anlayabilirsin. ama insan inanmak istediğine inanır sonuçta. sana taraflı düşüncenle hayatında başarılar diliyorum 🤡
God, if only she had a good king by her side.
Amen to that it would have been nice had Arthur survived
Henry was a great king during his first 25 years
In his youth he was very VERY much beloved.
It wasn't until the Boylen family entered the picture that his rule started to get bad. Plus his head trauma, and open leg wound. His desperation for a son. The family trait of paranoia.
People wanna be so desperate to think he was a horrible king all his life. But studies have shown otherwise.
He was not always a tyrant that came when he broke from Rome. Which was the fault of a very ambitious Anne Boylen who did not want to be just a kings mistress. Even though she would have been able to marry a Duke.
@@ladyofnoxus6733 I know all of these. It is clear what I was talking about.
He didn’t deserve her at all !!! She was one true beautiful Queen strong and dedicated to her duties faithful outstanding human being she was RIP Catherine of Aragon 🦋 May your beautiful soul rest in paradise ❤️
exactly! She was wonderful and perfect and he was trash. Love her
The darkness gathers as the light of day fades.
Hail to your majesty the one true queen!
Arthur would’ve been so much better for Catherine
If Arthur lived he and Catherine would have had a happy ending
@@HBOMAXtvmoviesyoutube true
Can you imagine it all would have been so different if Arthur was alive
I really loved Catherine, Henry doesnt appriciate nothing that shes done she practically saved England from the scots with common men and women while he was waiting for the French to show.
Btw great video loved it 🙃😁
also i love catherine because even at her weakess she shows strength
love ur edit also
If only Prince Henry survived but my god is she the true queen of England
she definitely is!
The best Queen Consort England ever had
Beautiful really beautiful I respact your work really good
i love her sm :((
Catalina de Aragón una gran reina para un pésimo rey cómo fue Enrique
My only Queen 😍💖
correct me if im wrong but didnt his mom and her mother lay curse on anyone who harm the son of york that that persons family will never have a boy child
Elizabeth Woodville (Henry’s grandmother) and Elizabeth of York (mother) did curse the bloodline of the murderer of the York boys yes you’re right. This happened before Richard III was killed in battle and no one knew who killed the boys in the tower. Then Henry VII’s (Henry’s father) mother (grandmother) admitted to having them killed and Elizabeth realised she had cursed her own bloodline.
@@ph0enixx553 thx
I LOVED IT !
My poor girl Cath;(
my queen
The most queen mazing of inglaterra the legend catherine of aragon
Great video
I hated the fact yhat she battles in the fight during the show.
I was on Henrys side when he said "you admit losing our son trying to be a man" i felt his pain there.
Cause historically she never put her or her babies life in danger like that. She was never at the actual battle. She did command the army but never at the front.
you tribute her beautifully with this video 😭♥️
ps where did u get or download the scenes?
Maybe just me but i hate her for lying about laying with Authur and the fact she wanted to be a queen so badly. She was willing to build a mariage on a lie. Feel like she dug a hole for herself. 🤨🤨🤨 i love her in the history but not this show.
Ugh , this os why I hate Emma Frost so bad
She lied because she was in love with henry
The show did Catherine dirty. The real one was much more dignified.
Well this was only in the show I think asap far I have researched about it.
Only in the show , real Catalina didn't.