Hafthor Doesn’t Seem Ready for This
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- Опубліковано 2 бер 2023
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Dan is the man. Nicest guy IRL too.
first reply :D currently on your program too
Possibly has the greatest laugh in powerlifting aswell
He is, I have competed with him. a great guy
A couple of years ago I told you about Dan candito, I got a bunch of shit on your comment section for saying Dan was the best squatter. We had a mild mannered debate on Ray vs Dan if you recall.
Great channel btw Johnny, you’ve had a positive impact on the powerlifting community for sure 🤙🏻
Ya walked right past him at gym a few months ago . Didn't know who he was til after
Holy shit that's the most insane squat I've ever seen. I can't imagine beating that, crazy
Konstantin Pozdeev squatted 400kg+ under 100kg bodyweight.
agree with that bro, fkn epic
Watching that squat gave me a semi
sort your life out
Squatting 500kgs! damn unbelievable
Thor squatted 460 easy lol last time
Hafthor won't be breaking Daniel Bell's record this year.
He would need a 475S/270B/440D to barely chip the record by 2.5Kg (1185 Total is needed).
Let me remind everyone that his best numbers are 440S/250B/410D.
His most recent numbers are 400S/210B/380D.
He was unjustly red lighted on Depth for 460Kg on Squat, so we can assume that's his best. So he needs to get back to peak performance and add another 15Kg in less than 10 months? So 75Kg on his Squat from the current point (last competition).
Best Bench is 250Kg, so he needs to add another 20Kg on his best Bench, and 60Kg from his current starting point.
As for the Deadlift, I understand that his potential is higher now than in 2018 because he improved his Deadlift in 2019, but he was already waaaaayyy over the 430Kg he failed in 2018. We have no reason to assume his grip will magically improve beyond his best grip ever (ie when he was in Strongman). He would have to eclipse his best Deadlift by 30Kg to reach 440, and by 60Kg from his current starting point.
Overall, it will be very difficult for him. He doesn't have any lift where he can get a massive boost over Daniel Bell, because Daniel has no weaknesses. Thor has to pull off a very big improvement on both Squat and Deadlift simply to make up for Daniel's massive Squat advantage.
great statement, but we must never count Thor out, I believe in his powers!
OR he can squat 500, bench 250 and Deadlift 500 again. EZ
@@czemaniacs 500kg deadlift no straps and suit? 😂😂😂😂😂🤡 Bro you are talk serius?
to give him the benefit of the doubt, progress will probably be very fast because of muscle memory. I don't think he'll get the atwr, but he will almost certainly set a total pr by the end of the year.
Just sit and grab your popcorn🍿 and watch history be made 😎
that squat my GAWD
There is a reason you don't see many 6'5+PLers breaking records, the same way you don't see many guys under 6'2 winning NBA MVPs
The levers of Thor are insane
What you mean? There’s not that many tall powerlifters. Most do strongman. It is definitely an advantage to be tall as fuck for the open division. Being that tall allows to just be a monster. The strongest overall people are usually at least 6’3.
Sarychev
True, but hafthor has the 13th highest raw+wrap total already at 6'9" at 11th place, is Dylan Hellreigel at 6'7", Vlad at 6th is around 6'3" and Dan Bell is 6'2"
Height is only a disadvantage when you're weight class restricted or natty 🤷♂️ hafthor can do it but it won't be healthy, he will be hard gaining on crazy gear doses up to the date.
@@loungeroomlifting2223 dude he doesn’t need crazy drugs for a while. He’s probably on a reg dose of test rn.
I am glad he is coming back. He has a big name and will bring more attention to the sport. All publicity is good publicity.
Usually I'm all for someone doing the impossible bit this time thor beating the record seems really unlikely
But its thor. He’s the freakiest strength athlete to date so do not doubt that he cant. Lol
@@lmdoinraysmom he definitely isn’t the freakiest strength athlete but ok….. yes he pulled 501kg on deadlift but other than that he’s been beaten multiple times in both powerlifting and strongman
@@MatumboBigOunceWilliams you don’t know enough about him. He’s never actually tried powerlifting. That was for fun for 6 weeks. In strongman he got on the podium like 9 times against prime brian shaw and prime big z while he was in his 20s not prime. He started winning armold classic every year which is the heaviest competition. Sadly he retired originally in his prime which is crazy to say but yeah. When he retired he was getting to his peak. Also taking all his strongman lifts across the board. He is overall the strongest. Telling you will see but he is the strongest human to live in the modern era. Fucking 6’9 viking so not surprising i guess. So yeah he’s probably gonna break the record.
@@MatumboBigOunceWilliams also his 501 was easy and he legit had more in him. No else is able to touch it for years desperately trying and eddie got all fucked up doing it while thor did it sub maximum
@@lmdoinraysmom he's strong but that's just it.. neither the greatest, nor the strongest or most consistent
imagine someone would lift a 500kg deadlift and 500kg squat in the same session
Thor was unbelievably good at strongman. I wish he chose to return to that!
He is….
@Brian you watched his announcement at the Arnold?
@@jpolson43 no
@Brian at the Arnold on Friday night he said he would be competing at the Arnold next year.
@@jpolson43 yeah he said he was competing next year like months ago
The one thing people don't understand about strongmen is that they don't ever go for max weight unless a competition calls for it. Hafthor doesn't know his best bench press cos he's never tested himself in that lift. I know you'll say his bench bress in 2018 power lifting meet but that was done with only 6 weeks prep. This is one whole year.
I saw hafthor squat 750pounds for 13 reps in 2017, imagine what his one rep max would be in squats.
Strongman doesn't do deadlift without straps, again... No way to know his max deadlift without straps. All I'm trying to say is, no one including hafthor knows how strong he will become December
Hafthor is gonna have Tren so hard to beat Dan's total.
And juice up
They said Hafthor would never beat Eddie Hall's dead lift record ;)
Surprise Daniel could never deadlift 500 kg or more, since he can squat 505 kg
Bro looks like a smithing npc from an RPG.
Average Blacksmith in RPG and Anime.
Can’t see Thor doing it this year , thors max bench is at 210 at the moment Daniel just benched 256 for 3
It's also a matter of willing to risking his health IMO
Honestly i think hafthor is the better deadlifter but not the better squater......but we will see ......I enjoy this "Battle" between this two Gentleman so far...💪💪
If he gets 440kg on deadlift 460kg on squat and 260kg on bench
@@haventhebeast2671 that's still 22.5 kg short
@@haventhebeast2671 He already did 460kg squat and 250kg bench with 1 month prep when he wasn't even in his peak yet, you can add 20kg on those numbers, he will smash this record like always, people just forget that he barely did any flat barbell bench before that competition so he has a huge room to improve there
Dan bell is a beast....but why don't he go deeper on the squat dept....our does his FED only go parallel height.
i wonder what eddie at his peak couldve done if he did powerlifting, especially squatting with wraps...
the main problem for thor getting close to daniel, in my view, is his grip. if he improves it, to the point of reaching 1000lb in deadlift, he can get this record. if not (very probably, very few people can lift 1000lb without straps - and most of them are hook grippers), there's simply no way he gets this record.
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I was thor i'd try to get the bench up and let the other two follow along naturally, i think he has potential to hit much more than 250kg and this is the guy that deadlifted 501 with a lil bit more on the tank. No reason to quit believing
Wait, is Hafthor going for the raw or wrapped total world record?
Yes
Wraps with no suit
@@LiftersClub LOL
funny thing is lifters club probably didnt even say that ironically lol
if thor gets back to his peak he will easily squat and deadlift 1000lbs
It's taking over a year
Thor needs to rely on his deadlift, bench since we know he is a great presser, and just his sheer size
Dave Hoff?
Hafthor has already hit 440/250/410 with a shit prep, he has an entire year to work on his weaknesses/put on juicy mass and add 82.5kg to his best total, and his deadlift is MUCH stronger than it was at his PL meet. I could see something very close to 472.5/267.5/445 to take the record with 1185kg
You make that sound like a cakewalk.
There's no such thing as adding an easy 82.5Kg to your Total in 3-4 months (which is all that he'll have by the time he's back to his previous numbers) at the World record level, regardless of drugs or extra mass.
@@popcornto6032dyel that doesn't know about muscle memory, especially in the most impressive strength athlete in the world, lol
@@GrizzlyPanda347 🙄
@@GrizzlyPanda347 muscle memory only works to bring you back to where you were before, it won't take you beyond that. He definitely has the potential, but one year is probably not enough
@Haven we're not talking about Brian Shaw
Sixth.
If thor would’ve tried in his prime, maybe. He’s squatted over 1,000 and deadlifted over 1,000(I know his deadlift record isn’t raw but he could pull a little over 1,000 without a suit) and his bench is his prime I think was somewhere mid 500s. So focusing souly on powerlifting, maybe…
He will beat it
Wow… a 1,111 lbs back squat… I’m about to do 315 lbs 😂
If Thor took 40 kg on Bell s deadlift, still possible to take the atwr i think
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His squat looks high, is that just cause he’s so big?
Yeah. Big dudes like Dan (and myself lol) make it really hard to tell sometimes. Add in the iffy lighting and angle and you get an iffy looking squat. The fact he got 505kg to that depth and lived is insane, let alone him actually getting it back up
so many big guys . jesus olivares and dan face off. who else ray?thor?
If he fails he has to box Eddie Hall again
Do you think poor Eddie will have to embarrass himself again?
Eddie is good enough to make Thor scared of a rematch he ran away from boxing Eddie again
I’ve got a pretty good bench
Thor will never beat this guy
Doesn't matter.. it belongs to a white beast - and that's all that matters👍🏻
No lift
Thors pressing power lacks. His bench is poor for his size and all the gear he's blasting. He's got a mountain to climb to surpass Dan the man.
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Halfthor isnt coming close. Sorry.
Strongman is wayyy to random and over the place. If only the Strongmen could focus more on static strength they'd more easily shift to powerlifting
This guy has so Short legs. I guess he has same hight sitting and standing. 😂
There is no beating numero uno. To me, Dan has 100%'ed powerlifting, and has set a record which will stand for a very very long time. I just don't see someone who isn't one in like, 20 billion, coming along and beating Dan. The numbers are just too high
But its thor
I think his record will be beaten in the next 5 years, but it's a high chance he just beats his own record. 510S/280B/425D for a 1205Kg Total isn't inconceivable for him.
@popcornto6032 I also expect this to happen, which I why I didn't say beating the record, I said beating Dan. The only guy who can conceivably beat Dan is himself at this point. Maybe if Thor went straight to powerlifting after the 501 he would've had a chance, but the boxing weight cut and age are to great a factor here
@@squibblez2517 I think he can be beaten for sure, but not by a lifter we know of today.
Perhaps Jesus Olivares if he stays injury free and switches to untested, might beat him.
Peter Petras is too old and doesn't have more potential for improvement. Outside of that, no current competition.
It's just really hard to find someone who can Total 1200+Kg on a good day. No matter how you slice the lifts, we're talking about near World record level for at least 1 lift, and the other 2 still outdoing the best of the best SHW athletes.
500/272.5/410 for an 1182.5Kf Total is the current record. Imagine taking out the 500Kg Squat for a more "reasonable" 465Kg Squat.
To beat the record barely, you'd need 465/290/430. Nobody in the World is capable of that today.
This is just an attention getter by Thor to increase his money and popularity, while staying relevant. He knows he can't beat Bell, but if he talks and trains like he is, he will get a following.
Daniel Bell is NOT the strongest powerlifter now. Now it is without a doubt Jesus Oliveria. He just recently squatted in training 465KG(1025 pounds) raw without wraps and about 2 months ago deadlifted 910 pounds ridiculously easy. He has a meet in Sheffield coming up very soon and he just might be the first person to total raw without wraps over 2500 pounds. He is only 24 years of age too.
X Doubt
Nobody cares about training numbers. It's about what you can do in competition, with all 3 lifts on the same day.
Daniel Bell is easily stronger than Jesus Olivares.
Jesus had been lifting 400Kg on Deadlift easily in training for over 18 months now, only for that to be pretty much his Max on competition day. Training to impress Instagram, unlike Daniel Bell who is his best on competition day.
@@popcornto6032
No he hasn't been deadlifting 400KG easily for 18 months. Seriously what a bonehead comment to claim "Daniel Bell is easily stronger than Jesus Olivares. ". Olivaries lifts in a tougher powerlifting competition and I'm not just talking about drug testing. His last competition which he had to travel all the way to South Africa(lets see Bell Travel that far out of the US and see how much his lifts drop) and got totally robbed in both the squat and deadlift from lifts that looked totally legit to me(probably the strictest judging I've ever seen). Anyone who compares USAPL/IPF to the other orgs as if they are comparable doesn't WTF they are talking about. Oh and he is only like something like 24.
@@thewestfaceofdhaulagiri6697 doesn't matter, until he lifts more than Daniel, he's not stronger.
This is a World record we're talking about, it doesn't matter the potential, it doesn't matter that he had to travel, it doesn't matter that he's only 24, nobody cares.
The Peña guy also has insane potential, and Jackson Powell squatted 400Kg in sleeves at 18, that was 2 years ago, since then he hasn't improved at all. Same could happen to Olivares, same could happen to anybody for any reason.
This idea that potential should be valued more than established world record holders, simply because the guy has the POTENTIAL to one day break the world record, is absolute nonsense, it's absurd.
You can appreciate their potential, but don't ever imply they're stronger than world record holders because of "potential", that's not how the sport works.
I don't go take the best rookie in the NBA and say he's better than Giannis or better than LeBron. Don't do the same in Powerlifting.
@@popcornto6032
Hey Guess what. Jesus just totaled 1152.5 KG (2540 pounds) via a squat of 470 KG (1036 pounds), 272.5 KG bench(601 pounds) and a deadlift of 410KG( 904 pounds. That final deadlift on his 3rd attempt of 410 KG was ridiculously easy to. Hell he looked like he could have deadlifted 430 KG or higher.
Remember this was in the IPF raw in England. Yes so he is without a doubt stronger than Daniel.