STOP Building Acheron WRONG - Complete Build Guide
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- A complete Acheron guide with everything you need to know. Best Relics, Lightcones, Teams, Stats to Build, plus tips and tricks to get the most out of her.
00:00 Intro
00:08 Relics
02:05 Why Quantum and Blizzard Relics can be fine
05:23 Main & Substats - Who Much Crit Rate do you need?
05:48 Are Speed or ATK% better for Boots?
06:24 Sphere Lighting Damage vs Attack%
06:38 Substats
06:45 LightCones
06:52 Do you really NEED the Signature Lightcone?
10:53 Teams
16:03 Traces
22:05 Eidolons
23:32 Vertical Investment & Pull Value
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well if she used google maps she would be spied on by evil elite overlords, so yea cant blame her lol.
Acheron will make anyone who crosses her a memory, and then forget them.
its like others hold her memories and not her...
“I will never be a memory”
-sephiroth
Why..is that such a cold line
@@AvianZone because in the empty seas of the Hippocampus, devoid of any memories. Coldness, cannot be avoided. IX will not tolerate anything, but emptiness.
@@spartantraveler7251 Bars 😭
Only acheron havers can complain bout 100 or 200k dmg💀
Yeah the power creep is real
I'm hitting 500K when before Acheron my Kafka + Black Swan hit somewhere 50K...
Yeh you're damage is weak check your build
@@Juice-chan nah, I frankly disagree, Acheron is pretty balanced. This is just the first time the casuals have bothered building their characters right.
Because you see others doing fucking 2 Million DMG
POV: You’re black swan thinking you’re memory reading would be easy.
Acheron: Allow me to introduce myself.
WATCH OUT BLACK SWAN!!!
funny thing is acheron didnt do it to swan deliberately, swan was just witnessing everything tht acheron suffered from in her past and swan couldnt handle it. to acheron all tht happened was a hot mama just asked her out to dance and she had fun, she doesnt recollect swan doing anything beside having an intimate dance
@@hawksage5272 not only everything she suffered,but every murder she commited
@@braken63 i mean i didnt mention tht cuz u cant exactly feel how ur victims die, i mean swan coulda felt how sad or happy it made acheron but thts litterally nothing compared the feeling of ur limbs being slowly torn off ofnur body and any other physical form of pain tht exists beyond even our comprehension. Remember swan knows every type of physical pain humans endured and has grown to be unphased by it, what swan endured from acherons memories is new ways of being tortured tht even she was unable to handle
@@hawksage5272 I doubt she was tortured per se,do take a look at her short about Izumo to see what murders I speak of
Acheron is a river in hell that Charon ferries souls across it.
awesome, i mostly added that in there since i learned about it in english, it was in macbeth
i thought that was the Styx
@@trashketchum9782 there seems to be quite a few rivers in the Underworld
@@trashketchum9782 Styx seems to be the main one.
that’s the Styx lol, same mythos different river
A welt sustain with ruan mei and pela is pretty funny too, rm is so busted she makes acheron melt ANY break bar
every petal will end your life dodo do do do...
i have this team but i have no clue how to make my welt sustain work
@@reap310 effect hit rate and speed dude lol
And break effect to make enemies move so slow you go again.
@@Krugmatik i just mess up my timing all the time
I have a very weird Combo. I got Archeron, Guinaifen, Sampo and Loucha. I dont know how well it go in the end game, but I'm going full throttle
I’ve been using her in my Kafka swan team and I had a lot of prisoner pieces with double Crit/speed/attack and currently with lc and new planar ornaments sitting at 70 rate and 180 damage without effects/calculations. I’ll eventually farm the new set but I’m already hitting such high numbers I’m not gonna be farming soon. But prisoner is definitely slept on and I would recommend only if you are or have farmed for dot teams.
For SU, I just pet BS, Kafka, Ruan mei with Acheron, no healer needed, but otherwise I put HuaHua in the team just for the survival.
I also was thinking of the prisoner set...that def - is very attractive
I'm running the exact same team and they absolutely destroy everything. Same set also, because the team benefits way more in general, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you were running a DoT team. And if you run into a sustainability issue, I promise you, Gallagher's got your back, replace Ruan Mei for him. You'll lose damage, but you'll be completely fine with survivability.
I messed up some where around 6:28 and my balls do lighting damage now
Interesting. I wonder though if it is a bug or a feature ...
@@Juice-chan god has to drop a new patch now
@@Juice-chan I will be expecting 300 dollars
@@arandommartain69420 for what?
@@Juice-chan compensation for my balls doing lightning damage now
Been watching your guides off and on and I wanted to say your energy and fluidity is amazing and your voice is so nice to listen to. Keep up the amazing work :)
I can't for the life of me build just one character. I just focus, get distracted, and then suddenly grind relics for a different character, and then repeat that process. All 41 of my characters are lvl80, but only 12 are build for grinding 36 stars or other shenanigans lmao
bro how did you get 41 characters to lvl 80 💀
@@Agasped Having the wrong priorities 💀
I feel you. I was building a character then I randomly started building Serval and she was level one now she’s level 59
Ngl, you should get an adhd test done, not even memeing
@@caxe7Lmao my friends said the same thing. I might do that if I get something to tone it down a little, otherwise I wouldn’t see the necessity in knowing that I have it or not knowing besides giving my friends ammunition for roasting me
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3:33 damn acheron slamming the juices out of the memokeeper lol got me xD was not ready for that
Watchmaker is good for Boothill and any character you want to build for breaking. So it's worth grinding for diver set.
3:34 has me dead! lmao subbed for the Acheron/Black swan backshots LMAOOO, came out of no where
I use Acheron with black swans artifact set because I haven’t started farming the crit set and she still slaps as long as you apply dots.
I got Good Night Sleep well to S5 on her LC banner and stopped. She’s steamrolling content as is, her LC would be great but as f2p i have to be very stingy with wishes. This is the first time ive wished on the LC banner.
10:30
according to siderum's video on welt sustain acheron, he managed to deal 1.2 million damage with s5 loop, this was with 5 enemies and i am not aware if this damage is consistent especially because there was no dedicated sustain (welt was used instead of a sustain)
Acheron comes from Greek mythology. Acheron is most often referred to as the principal river that flows through Hades, acting as a tributary for Cocytus and Tartarus, names for other rivers / lakes in the Greek underworld. Fun fact, there's an actual river in Greece named Acheron which may have been the inspiration for the mythological version.
Got my First 36 Star MoC Clear thx to Acheron. Clearing itself never was hard for me but my 2nd Team was Mono Quantum with Seele and it was lacking AoE dmg.
My Acheron Team was:
-E2S1 Acheron
-E6 Pela + Silverwolf Signature
-E1S1 Sparkle
-E6 Gallagher + Gallaghers Signature (the MoC Shop one at S5)
The Team blasted trough MoC.
2nd Team was
E0S1 Jingliu
E1S1 Silverwolf (was a Replacement since i usually run Pela in Jinglius Team)
E1S1 Ruan Mei
E0S1 Gepard (Still a freaking good Sustain till these Day if build well)
Also yes i have Silverwolf LC 2 Times. Got 2 in the same Multi and since im Still Pearless i use one on Pela and one on SW....and yes i would love to use Bronya in Jinglius Team but im also Bronyaless even i got her LC already 2 Times -.- (Freaking 15 Pulls to go till i get my free Bronya)
I'm really happy with my Acheron and her team. I'm now focusing on building a team for jingliu.
I love the Zinna theme in the background!
ZINNIA IS THE GOAT! THE GOOOAAAAAAT
here are some pretty common crit rate bonuses in game that are not shown at the character select screen : 4%(4pc bonus), 12%(fu xuan), 18%(e1), 12%(2pc) = 46%. My acheron is currently e1s1 and paired with fu xuan. This means I only need 54% to crit rate cap, easily manageable with some energy investment. Also, because acheron e1 can get so much crit rate from basically nothing, e1+ let's you transition to crit dmg chest eventually. You will need like 50% crit rate from sub stats tho so lol. imo similar to jingliu is very worth to hit crit rate cap with acheron as her dmg is very lumpy. Only her ult is doing any real damage so you don't wanna be constantly having to reset moc because your acheron had a freak accident and didn't crit with like 90cr. My current stat like : 4.1k atk, 55/211 crit ratio (stat screen page), base spd pretty much lol (rolling for e2 so will be using bronya eventually)
14:50 you know about the leaks dont you 😂
Btw i love the background music choices in this video good taste
But yeah iam very hyped for that charakter
Herta
Wait...that could be...MARCH!
@@aelouxarchaisno
Funny thing is that I had Acheron and black swan on the Same team before watching the video where they dance, btw they have voice lines abt the dance
WHY DOES BLACK SWAN WANT TO DANCE AGAIN IS SHE OK
@@Juice-chan trauma can do things to a person
Maybe the watch maker set will be good for the new MC it's the only reason I can think of for that to even be there since Gallagher also doesn't use it
You can use 2pc that rolls into your desired stats on gallagher or any break character that doesn't particularly need the extra energy from thief set.
As someone who's running Ruan Mei, Kafka, Black Swan, and Acheron, I can tell you they absolutely destroy everything. And if you wanna sacrifice a bit of DPS for Sustain, I just replace Ruan Mei with Gallagher. They're absolutely insane together.
And I gave Acheron the prisoner set as it boosts the DoT and makes her super powerful. Which wasn't mentioned here.
I have SG lc and 66 CR along with 198 CD in battle with buffs, is that good or fine to clear MOC?
It took 2 hours but I got Acheron with 38% Crit rate, I have e1 so add 18% vs debuffed enemies makes it 56% plus the relic set is 64-68% Crit rate and plus the planar gives another 12% making it 80%, and 250% Crit damage since I got her LC too :3
Hey nice Video i dont know what team i will build i have e4 acheron already (got her lightcone and e4 in 200 pulls wth) i have black swarm e2 so i will maybe go Acheron, Black Swarn, Pela and Gellagher? Is this the best Team? Or would it be better instead of Gella to use Fu xuan? I have sparkle and welt (e3) too i cant choose what i want to build xD What do you think will be the best Team for doing the most dmg and surviving
Archeron, Sparkle, Black Swan, Fu Xuan will be very strong. If you have Kafka lightcone you can put it on Black Swan so you can make use of Black Swan E1.
Instead Black Swan you can also play Pela. Especially when you want to play Black Swan on the other half with Kafka.
@@Juice-chan Okay Thank you! :) I will Play Archeron/Sparkle/Pela/Fu Xuan then and in the other half kafka/black swarn/guinaifen/ and uhm well i need someone to replace fu xuan there xd
me everytime i see a guide: close UA-cam and open hsr to check my build and open UA-cam again.
the 3 star lightcone Void increases effect hit rate by 40% for the first three turns of battle, which aids in quickly getting low level battles done
I have farmed 2 years for Eula set lacking on that one helmet till now. Now I am gonna spend years for the right sets and stats
You didn't talk about glamoth set, there is another content creator who compare set and weapon and I have seen showing glomoth set + Speed boots doing much dammage than Izumo set, what do you think ?
Juice Chan, when we play Acheron. We don't add a healer in a team right?
Speaking of 5* Nihility Pela that can heal, allow me to introduce you to Jiaoqiu
8:09 I recognized the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Dialga battle soundtrack 😭😭😭 you just triggered my nostalgia
Wasn’t even sure if I wanted Acheron, but gave in since I had 26 tickets saved. Ended up getting her, her LC… and Luocha 😅
Probably used all of my luck for the year lol
At 6:35 what do the numbers with the light cones mean?
what which debuff gives speed or resistances? i never seen anything that is a debuff that gives speed or resistances im confused 00:33
they meant debuff on speed like slow from welt for example
For resistance she prolly mean resistance lower (pela = ice res lower), and for speed you got some spd lowers in SU or above mentioned welt slo.
I had to watch the teams section twice because once I heard the Final Fantasy X battle music, I just started jamming.
Finally, a guide from Juice 🗣🗣🗣
I'm very dedicated to Acheron and I want to do the best I can to make the perfect build for her but I'm not sure which team I want to included with her. For now I'm using Acheron with Kafka light cone and her teammate are Guinaifen, Robin and Bailu E1. I have other Nihility like Kafka, Pela and Sampo, I have only Natasha and Bailu as Healer and I like using Harmony for boosting like my 100 hours of Tingyun or sometime Bronya. Robin is recent and max build for now with her light cone, I'm not a fan of Shield builder but I'm using March 7th (E6 max build) when needed
I like my team but I'm not very confident of the Optimisation
I dont know what you think about it but If someone else read this comment and want to give their opinion, you are more then welcome :)
So can I go with Acheron Pela Gui and Lynx? At least until I build gallagher? Or should I use someone else (i have welt and his sig and i do plan on pulling for Fu Xuan when she reruns)
With all the CR boosting sets, fu xuan and e2, i have passive plus 50% cr and a cdmg body is a must
Why atk boots on s1? Counter intuitive. The more you move the more you stack with acheron?
This persons video is GOATED
you really pulled the ff fight song there, damn
Is welt's lc better than good night sleep well at s2 for acheron though??
I have a wired case I got acheron than lucha so the team I have now
Is acheron
Welt
Pela
Lucha
Does it work ?
Me who has had my home in that cavern since ratio came out:
Which LC is recommended for BlackSwan in acheron time besides her signature or other limited sign. I mean for f2p.
Do you think that my Acheron team would be better with sparkle instead of Gwen?
a quick question, if i already got her eidolon 1, how much crit rate is good?
both
Salsotto with elation path. When you get the 3 star all ults are follow up.
I just pulled 800k damage with her. Got decent relics so I’m happy
should I use s2 gnsw or s1 welt sig? I have both but not sure which one is better
GNSW :)
@@Juice-chan ty!
Can I run black swan and silver wolf with her?
Question. You cant activate the second effect( the 2x cr and cd) on diver set with the GNSW lightcone right?
you can through the ultimate debuff she has built into her kit. works out to roughly 66% uptime instead of the 100% S1 provides.
@@brentwalker3397 Oh I see, thanks for clarifying, brother.
Acheron used to be in greek mythology and was later replaced by Styx (yes they where both rivers)
I'm still trudging through the slog that is Luofu, but I'll keep this in mind for when I can access the stuff 👀
the luofu is so balls good luck man
penacony is peak in comparison (aventurine my beloved)
Couple questions if anyone sees them, just based on things I've seen other TC's mention
- I've seen people suggesting to specifically use speed boots with her Signature so you can get an extra turn of her dropping her own debuffs. Boots are the one piece I'm missing and it feels like there's a bunch of conflicting information.
- In line with that, if you run her slow, should you be aiming to get her supports as fast as possible and just pull her forward with debuff stacks?
- Silver Wolf. I've seen SW + Sweaty Pela thrown out as her best supports a BUNCH of places, but SW wasn't mentioned here at all. If I'm using Swan with a Kafka team, am I better using Gui or SW as Acheron's second support?
Speed boots won't give you extra bursts that easily on her sig. If at all. On her signature you get whole 4 extra stacks in a 5 cycle period. In that same amount of time you get 5 bursts - 6 bursts in total. We are talking about 45 to 54 stacks in total you need go get those. 4 stacks compared to that is an 7% increase in stack generation. For that you will trade about 20% of your total attack. It is a damage loss through and through.
@@Juice-chan Not mad at that, saves me going hunting for speed boots hahaha
@@maevethefox5912 Silver wolf isn't the best choice unless you are doing single boss fight, I am using BS, Kafka, RM with Acheron, and when farming flowers for mats the enemy hardly gets any turn, Pela is also better than SW in most situations unless the enemy doesn't have ice weakness.
I'm a quantum set farmer I farm it for everyone, for DOT dps I save atk% and SPD piece, for crit, I save the crit and atk% piece, for support I save break effect/SPD/EHR/ Eff Res piece. I farm hackerspace too of course.
Edit: Also where's the post Furina tier list?
U just didn't not give black swan backshot moment with da sound effects 😂😂
Currently trying to build an acheron team.
But i still main qingque, my gambling gremlin ever since i got sparkle in the last banner.
I didn't get a single Pela on her banner, instead E3 Gallagher and E4 Dan Heng 😭😭😭
just got Acheron gave her Dr. Ratio's set and Jin Yuan salsoto yep she's cracked,lvl 70 don't have the books yet
I use spd boots on her and i have the lc. I can pretty much get her ult often ❤
My Seele has 200% Crit Dmg tho, and that’s only because I have her sig LC at S2 and fill in the missing Crit rate with Fu Xuan. Still trying to farm for a good substats for my orbs.
Pela, black swan and ruan mei Is probably better than welt and sparkle. And fu xuan gives acheron crit rate and with the trend of the universal market lc she can apply burn.
Idk why am watching this when my Acheron can deal 500k like another thursday
u forgot about sw pela, u showed it but didnt verbally say it. it was the two nihil i was using because its her best in slot at e0 because of how much they impair. not eveeryone has swan but most people have sw because of rerun. if u dont like running sampo or goon, self ult tingyun is a thing to action forward ur team twice, first lt on her and second ult on acheron
Bro how you said farm it w your mid seele 😂😂! You described me 😅
seele the ultrabrick
Do u like atk balls or lightning dmg balls
can you explain how the 4pc diver set will double the effect? im really confused
It has 2 parts. Part 1 is: 4% crit chanse and 8/12% crit damage.
Second part is: if you applay debuff increase the aforementioned affects(part 1) by 100%(wich just means double the original ammount).
And since acheron always debuffs on attk that effect has basicly constant up time.
Highly disagree on Fu Xuan being her weakest sustain option. Her best? Wouldn't say that, but another free 12%cr is a boon for relic needs. On top of that, it's her comfiest since it makes everyone a billion times tankier, gives free CC nulls, and she's still able to run Trend (just not as effectively as Fire MC and Geppy)
I can't recall calling her the weakest. A weaker yes since in contrast to Gepard or Fire MC she has no ways of raising her aggro level and therefore making enemies attack her. In pure sustain metrics she is of course absolute S Tier. I do use her as my favourite choice all the time for the mentioned reasons.
seeing 147k as a bad number makes me extremely depressed
also what the hell is Inert Salsotto what world of SUni do you farm that on
i've never seen that in game only in guides
Im running acheron pela galhagher and bronya and tbh it works really great too i have her e2 with her cône so i dont need much nihility
Thinking why my acherons dmg was so low. Then realized i was thinking with genshin logic lmao
I nearly give up building her. I hate that def substats all the time 😭
is acheron good with welt's signature light cone?
Not the best option, but it's playable
I got E0S1 Acheron with 4k attack, and 57% Cr, the downside is that she has 149% cd, which I mean isn't that bad but not good either, I've been struggling to get a torso with crit rate as substat and for the rope.
With aventurine coming soon do you think it'll be better if I replace my gallagher with him because of hit ult and buffs?
Aventurine is better sustain, but it won't make you get stacks for acheron ult faster, so.. if you doing fine with gallaher, then there is no need for aventurine ( but if you like the char, then pull him )
@@nahujtegnul Thanks
Bro i dont have silverwolf😭
What characters should i use fire mc or some other characters?
Yeah you can use fire mc, sampoo, welt also you can use other quantum characters because because their relics apply debuffs and ignore defences.
Bro get your fact straith, Acheron is not hell, Acheron is one of the rivers in Hades that Charon ferries dead souls across, and Hades is not hell, Hades is litteraly the afterlife
i learned about this in english. in the context of macbeth, it was 'the underworld'
i just say hell since usually the underworld is hell
Dude, chill. It's not a big deal
Bro get your fact straight it's straight not straith
Is pela needed to be E6 for this team to work? Mine's E3 but I dont have anymore pulls to E6 her
Pela E6 isn't very useful because her damage isn't substantial. You could run E0 Pela and it would be fine. Having Resolution LC is the important part.
Why did she like- ignore silverwolf? Like she doesn’t stack debuffs and make Acheron a break merchant?
I definitely mentioned Silver Wolf. I don't like her that much to be honest. Only good for single target stuff. She is usable but I had way more success running Black Swan and Pela with Acheron.
@@Juice-chan I actually have black swan- I got her the same way I got swolf… a random single summon at 7 am 🫡😂 maybe I’ll build her up and give her a try see what the hype’s about!
Why would you want to focus on two characters with the same niche of ignoring weaknesses?
that voice crack at 00:03 was insane ngl
most have probably seen the leaks but i'm gonna put it on read more to avoid
jiaoqiu is a nihility character (element and rarity unknown) who can heal and apply def reduction, so he(?) is a pela that can heal, at least according to leaks
i thught acheron was anagram for archon, since shes the raidon shogun or that mai char form 3rd (havent played that) shes ALSO anagram of aeon, which i assume she if archon in genshin might be secretly an aeon in starrail.
hi! let me explain, in Shakespearean English, Acheron is an archaic (extremely ancient) way to describe the underworld. it doesn't stand for Archon in actual english :)
im watching this even tho im still pulling for her on 50/50 and already prefarmed jeez what got into me T_T
Me out here with a 41 rate 220 dmg acheron still hitting around 300k-500k with 4070 atk
I'm fairly new to the game and was wondering what to look for on the relics for Archeron? And should I keep farming those? My Archeron= 3k hp & 2k dmg
What you want to aim for is
60%+ crit chanse
180%+ crit damage
3.5k + attk
And those stats at base
So imo you should still farm as those stats are pretty hard to get (well is rng)
Also dont worry bout hp and deff too much for now
@@mihakolesa6688 Ohw okay, thanks man. I'll copy this and farm some more relics. Thanks again :D
Diver set can't be best in slot. Acheron already has around 550% crit damage when buffed, and adding another 24% is barely noticeable. While Quant set def reduction is universally good. Yes I am talking about Acheron best team with Sparkle, Fu and Wolf on eidolons, not f2p.
For those who have the Acheron E2, does only the Sparkle work with the Acheron or is there some other Harmony unit?
Like all other hyper carries, the Powerpuff Girls all work with her. Sparkle is just her best Harmony option due to big DMG/CD buffs, and action advancement. All while being SP positive. Bronya is the same, but is either SP negative or SP neutral depending on if you have her e1s1. Ruan Mei doesn't boost Acheron as much as the other 2, but is still cracked with her for the obvious reasons while staying SP neutral. Outside of those 3, Asta would be decent. Mainly for PF content though. That would be it for Harmony partners pretty much.
She gives me sm 😭anxiety ahhhhhh how she wants a team ahhh i have a team but still edit i think thunder calms my mind mine are great 😊nice video
good guide
my acheron has 230is cdmg and 38 crit rate atm. But i got e1, 4pc diver set, 2pc izumo so in total it becomes 76% crit rate. So do i need to still farm for better crit rate ? cause I've noticed the extra crit rates from e1 and the sets are hidden stats which only work when against debuffed enemies.
Definetely not, 76% is more than enough for her, i mean almost every hit in her ult will crit, exept for like 1-2, so..
is 160k dmg for acheron (without bronya or sparkle) good? (also is a team of acheron , natasha , pela , fire trailblazer any good? i also have acheron's signature lightcone with it so is it any good?)
if you dont have Acheron E2, you might want 2 nihility team members besides her
Yeah, if you only had Acheron E0 you should probably put 2 nihility units beside Acheron to maximize her kit
For some reason my acheron does more without the extra nihilty character. 1.6m that is. And is she suppose to be fast? Or slow? My Acheron's speed is like 136 I think
14:52 guess what they are gonna do exactly that!
Juicy guide
I surely thought this comment would get a heart attack