7 Ways Sequels Explained Why You Suck Now
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Many a videogame ends with you having become powerful enough to technically qualify as a doomsday device. The direct sequels therefore need to bust you back down to scrub status to keep the game fun. How? In these ingenious, arbitrary and convoluted ways. Subscribe for a video like this every Thursday from Outside Xbox.
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Mass Effect 2, they killed you and had you dead for two years in order to set you back to square one.
Kinda surprised they didn't pick that, "You literally died" is a very catchy reason. Otoh, it'd be the third "You got exploded", so maybe better to save it for the inevitable comment edition.
Then in Mass Effect 3, you get released from jail right before the reapers hit and have to rush off planet in your ship.
@@carlsiouxfalls 3 is a bit of a mixed bag. Yeah, you lose most of your gear but you keep your skills and they raise the level cap instead.
Pretty similar story in Gothic 2.
good point
It’s never explained in game, but I remember reading somewhere that when asked why Dante from Devil May Cry never has his weapons from previous games, the director said that because Dante is always in debt, he sells them to pay the rent for his shop. Imagine the person running around with all those devil arms
yeah... who buys that kind of hardware? O_o'
@@marhawkman303 frightening thought
@@marhawkman303 Pawn shops.
@@marhawkman303 Me
@@GhostW1thTheMost I mean your average anime protagonist would want them, but..... most shop keeeps, hmm.....
One of my favorite ones is DMC. Before the start of each game, Dante has to sell almost all of his incredibly destructive weapons because he's constantly broke.
In which one does this happen?
I played all games except the fifth.
FrankyStein IIRC, it happens in the novels
@@Franky_Sthein it comes up in a audio drama from japan and the DMC 5 novel has Dante breaking Cerberus to beat the demon that became the Balrog gauntlets in 5.
@@TheRedMage01 I see thanks, now where can I get this novel?
@@Franky_Sthein It's called Devil May Cry 5: Before the Nightmare but it only came out in Japan it might translated somewhere online.
Meanwhile in the Yakuza series "You've been in prison/living a life that doesn't involve hitting people with motorcycles so long that your body has forgotten all it's moves"
Thankfully, Goro Mishima is here to help you remember in the most helpful way possible. Surprise street fights, and disguises. Which is how my third grade teacher taught me long division.
@@ems6706 >Mishima
wtf
Nishiki explains Kiryu's decline eloquently and perfectly from Yakuza 0 to 1:
"Ten years in the joint made you a fuckin' pussy!"
@@rPk0hu pretty sure that was Majima
@@SoraR123 nope, that was Nishiki in the english dub.
Majima said he was rusty and would make it his goal to get KIRYU-CHAN stronger in Kiwami.
South Park: The Fractured But Whole: "we're not playing that anymore, we're super heroes now."
LOL & how many Star Wars games used "we used the Force to make you level 1 again", KOTOR used it and it wasn't even a sequel to anything, then KOTOR 2 did it again
@@Dorian-_-Gray KOTOR unlike lesser games gets its Ex Machinas established before you knew they were a plot point.
I didn't mind KoToR as the protagonists actually had reasonable excuses for not being able to use their full strength force powers.
This one actually makes sense though for the game
@@mattkennedy9308 yeah in 2 it that your a wound in the force that was cut off from it at the end of the mandolorin wars and in 1 it was you where mind wiped so you can't remember how ( and all force powers take training to learn how to use) thou it explains how you power up so fast when in the lore it takes years of training
Mass Effect: You died, but you got better.
God of War: You died, but you got better.
The Force Unleashed II: You died, and you mostly didn't get better.
Gothic: You died, but you got better.
God of War: You died, but god better
One glorious day there will be a video game sequel where you were turned into a newt but you got better.
Dark Souls: You died.
I'm going to have to start using the phrase "hard reset on your Jensen" more often
Sounds dirty
@@Kount_Kronic somehow though "soft reboot on your Jensen" sounds more dirty in my mind lol
Special mention needs to be given to Link: the Faces of Evil, where the reason Link doesn't have all his gear is just because Gwonam is way too impatient to give Link a moment to gather his things before heading to Koridai.
To be fair, Link wouldn't have been able to pick up the most IMPORTANT thing he needed in Koridai - 100 snowballs.
Squaddah-lah.
...Good games, those were. Really good games.
What about God of War 2? All that time spent slicing through the untold demonic horde only to have Kratos stupidly funnel all his power into his sword, then get crushed by a giant stone head
Or god of war 3 where you fall into the river in hell and river styx rip all of your powers before you can swin out of it
This happens in all God of War
Chains of lympus: By the end, the gods take the gauntlet and shield, and it's implied that way Kratos loses his powers by the first one
Ghost of Sparta: Your swords are new after Ares takes your's at the end of the first one
2: We will just call it "The statue incident"
3: You fall to river styx and the souls take all you powers.
2018: At the end of 3, Zeus takes away all you magic and powers
It is more due to your father killing you
And God of war 4 where he jumps to another mythology
You need to realise this is Outside Xbox, not Outside Xtra.
I'll give an honorable mention to Risen 2: Dark Waters
You got REALLY piss drunk
So thats why they switched the protagonist for Risen 3. The nameless hero just didn't want to get blackout drunk for the reset again.
@@j.ackermann9110 Which makes it even funnier that the one time you run into him in Risen 3 you both get piss drunk and he's gone when you wake up
That's one of the more realistic scenarios that games have given us.
Love to see how Andy explains the Red Dead Redemption prequel problem. In 1907 our good John Marston has a brand new home, an inherited arsenal of guns and kit from Arthur Morgan, and a whole load of leftover money. Four years later he has nothing but a cattleman revolver, his home is all but abandoned, and he hasn't even the fifteen dollars needed to pay off the MacFarlanes' when they cured an acute case of lead poisoning.
Oh, and he has to try explaining this without blaming Uncle.
Looking at this makes me think that John Marston is an addict or the Fed's in that time we're very ruthless and cruel.
Based on Morgan Monday’s, It’s clear that in Andy’s cannon, John Marston will have spent it all on outfits and a special outbuilding to store everything in, which uncle burnt down by accident as he was trying to make his own moonshine on the side, which is how the feds tracked John back to Beachers hope.
Damn *LUMBAGO*!
@@razvandragomir7403 nice of you to use the past tense. Very polite.
Its kind of a reference to Spaghetti Western movies with he protag being rich in the end of the movie and then in the sequel his money dissapearing is never explained and just lost, it happened in "The Good The Bad and The Ugly" to "A Fistful Of Dollars" or "Sabata" to "Return Of Sabata"
what about in sonic 3 where knuckles basically hit sonic so hard that the chaos emeralds just fell out
And Sonic just stood there and let him... because he wanted a challenge?
@@davidmcgill1000 to be fair, it could be more a "wait, how the heck did you just one punch an invincible being?" moment of shock, seeing as Sonic was super at the time...
@@michaelmann7816 given how Knuckles is canonically keeper of the master emerald or some such, I always figured some power inherent from that was how he managed to knock the chaos emeralds loose from sonic in the first place, and I figured the shock of getting involuntarily knocked out of super sonic mode probably stunned him for a minute
of course I didn't play the games when they were new, so the lore already existed by the time I went back to play them
@@SyfyRules in later 3d games string boss attacks cause your ring count to drop faster, so yeah your not invincible it all depends on your ring count acting as a buffer, throw in the master emerald connection and it tracks
In most games Sonic just doesn't have the emeralds anymore because reasons. In Unleashed you still have them but they've been drained of all their power and you need to restore them.
When I develop a video game the answer will be “Forgot how to do all the cool stuff Bc you spent 6 months in quarantine Jesus Christ it’s been so long.”
I mean isnt this kind of that Kingdom Hearts did - ... uh.. you were... um asleep for a year and forgot everything okay
Um, I’m betting the mis-en-scène begins by explaining what happened, those six months prior, and the setting is Earth, September 2020.
Just a feeling. I hate it when people say, “spoiler alert,” afterwards.
Spoiler alert!
Yakuza Kiwami: you prisoned for 10 years behaving nicely so you're now rusty
Now go and fight this crazy one eyed guy so you can be badass again
@@primaroxas that's kiwami
@@fictionarch oops my bad, i just starts kiwami after 0 and 0 just stuck on my head lol
Rise of the Tomb Raider: Lara just didn't bring any weapons to Siberia, even when she knew Trinity would be there.
That sounds....incredibly forced and stupid
Well, to be fair she did end up in the middle of the snow with no gear, so even if she DID bring weapons, they would have been lost.
@@TimedRevolver yeah I was thinking "didn't the vehicle she came in blow up before she unpacked her stuff?" I may be thinking of a different game.
Couldn't get them past customs?
@@Janoha17 Believe it or not, that's very likely. Transporting guns cross borders isn't an easy thing... unless you're a milliona---
I love Guacamelee 2's decision. You got married, had kids, got a dad bod. Getting fat is what lost all your super powers. Nice.
I always thought the Prince throwing away the medallion meant 2 things 1. He didn't need the sands anymore and 2 he was saying goodbye to Farah. Its her medallion and he's returning home with kaileena and basicislly saying goodbye to Farah expecting to never see again.
Also, the powers are fueled by sand, which he didn't expect to encounter again, since he wasn't planning on letting Kaileena die. So he assumed he wouldn't be able to use its powers anymore anyway.
Yeah to me it was that he thought he could finally leave all the bullshit behind and go home. The Sands of Time have given him nothing but misery so I'd fully understand him tossing the medallion when he thought it was finally over.
@@TheAphexTim But what makes it so funny is that he throws away the medallion LITERALLY 5 minutes right before he turns a corner and realizes he has to fight another army... whoops LMAO
@@TheAphexTim I mean. Even if you think the bullshit is done, you don't just throw away a magic time medallion that if someone else found could literally end the world.
@@manaskyes9081 Yeah this. I'd do the "keep it secret, keep it safe" routine. and just hide the medallion.
Warcraft iii: The Frozen Throne. Arthas actually levels backwards in the undead campaign because the Lich King is losing his power
Notable in that instance is that Arthas is the ONLY returning hero unit in TFT that’s weakened. When Malfurion and Tyrande show up in the Night Elf Campaign, they’re still level ten and have all of their abilities maxed out as you would expect.
I think they didn't mention that one because arthas lost power step by step and in the final level he regains it anyway but yea would be nice to have pop qnd wc3 in the same video
If you wanna mention WC3, you could mention going from Level 10 Paladin down to Level 1 Death Knight. Because, you know, he grabbed a cursed sword and became undead. It's still a player shock, as a Level 10 Paladin was nigh-invincible and the Level 1 Death Knight will die to pretty much _anything_ in the first level without some minions, and it's more of a stealth mission than anything.
I love how Kingdom Hearts has to constantly come up with reasons why Sora is reset to level 1 every game, and the funniest part is that the reason always makes sense in the plot. Chain of Memories? his memories were reprogrammed, plus Castle Oblivion is weird anyway. KH2? his memories had to be restored which apparently didn't work perfectly. (Coded? he's in the data world, things work differently here.) (scratch that, I was a dummy and forgot that technically Coded!Sora is not the same Sora as in the rest of the series, though Data-Sora is based on... kh2 Sora? I think? I forget how Coded works) DDD? he's in the dream world, things work differently here. KH3? he nearly fell to Darkness in the previous game and lost all his powers as a result.
took a surprisingly long time for them to burn the "fell to darkness" excuse
in case of DDD I would rather say complicated time mess that actually made the whole story of KH an unrecognizable mess. seriously, I played the game 3 times now and I still have no idea what was going on.
What I love most about Kingdom hearts is shown in your comment. Because I 100% believe you when you say that it makes sense in the plot, but the plot is so bonkers it doesn't matter xD.
None of it makes sense
@@N94able It pretty much made sense for the most part until DDD. Like okay, the skeeping worlds, totally okay... but the whole Xehanorth plan... nope, pretty much destroyed the whole thing
9:30 You know the entire reason Babylon got attacked was because the Prince reversed time to prevent things from happening. The main point of the story is that the Prince's time manipulation keeps making things worse. That's why he threw that medallion away.
Actually, he doesn't reach that realisation until later in the game, after Kaileena's death. And it's not until near the end of the game when he finds his father's body that he is forced to accept that everything bad that has happened is the result of his meddling with time.
At the start, he lets it go, because he assumes everything will be okay. He's expecting a hero's welcome with his new bride - who herself can control time anyway.
If you can count it as a sequel, with Yakuza 0 made one year prior, you could also say Kiryus 10 year jail sentence at the start of Yakuza Kiwami would count 🤷♂️
That's pretty reasonable, all things considered. 10 years in the slammer with nothing but mooks to plow through? Not that anyone would want to fight him after seeing him floor a group of 6, 7 guys sent in as assassins.
If anything, I'm more impressed by that police officer who took him out in one hit with a baton.
Well, I’m Yakuza 6 he got sent to prison again, and you’re actually pretty strong at the beginning of that game
@@jinhunterslay1638 kiiiiiryuuuuu...🙄😂 Learned how to retain abilities
@@finalninju6021 is Yakuza 6 not released in the west? It seems very few ppl know about it for some reason
@@jinhunterslay1638 I haven't played it yet. I'm on 4 😑
13:37 something that’s an interesting thing they did in the sequel was that not just a throwaway line, it’s actually a point of contention that the pirates attempt to use to try and convince MegaMan to join them.
As a counterpoint, Banjo-Tooie had you start with all the moves that you learned in the first game, then had you learn a bunch more.
The Metroid series could fill up this list alone.
Off the top of my head:
Prime 1: in exploding space station
Prime 2: eaten by ing
Prime 3: phazon corruption
Other M: Mr. Adam said "no"
Fusion: X infection
I can't remember/not sure about Return and Super.
My hubby *LOUDLY* seconds this
I was about to comment this but it seems I’ve been beaten to the punch! LOL
Also at the end of prime 1 she also lost an upgrade, which is my explanation as to why she doesnt have certain stuff from prime 1 that she should have at the beginning of 2
@@dxjxc91 one of those seems a bit different than the other. Not sure which one, though.
Destiny Two is probably my FAVORITE version of this I've ever played. Watching a place they'd taught you would always be safe burn as you see npcs you love try to protect civilians (meanwhile, freaking out about favorite npcs that you hadn't come across yet and wondering if they're okay). Then, you lose your last bit of hope as all your powers are stripped away and your weapons and armor and smashed and/or lost and you have to stealth-limp out of the city (trying to avoid enemies you would have eaten for breakfast previously).
Especially before the Shadowkeep expansion, when you always started with the campaign and were depowered for more than maybe 10 minutes.
I dunno, I didn't like the idea that my character, a literal godslayer, would leave the city with just a basic pistol in shitty armour.
My hunter was a Trials champion, that dude wouldn't have left his Eyasluna behind for anything.
I just head cannoned it that I had left my gear with banshee as he was going a custom paint job for me so I wasn’t using the same shader as everyone XD
"Because the plot required me to"
BECAUSE HE TOLD ME TOOOOOO
The plot can force anyone to do anything
You back
Hey Justin.
Jesus you are everything and everywhere Justin Y.
After the first two, I was expecting them all to be "because explosions."
I was waiting for "Mass Effect 2: your ship got exploded", as well.
I miss the "lost in the Outsider's eyes" jar
That’s for Ellen... and i think Jane has her tied up in Jane’s underground facility when Jane was talking about the Outsider... since we know Ellen couldn’t resist the eyes... oooh... so shiny...
@@John-Ng * shakes jar *
@@rubyamateurtactician4354 sigh... * clink *
@@John-Ng luckily Ellen's trusty cat comes along and uses its magic kitty power to break her free
Trav Stein I refused to believe that’s her cat and not Merilwen’s cat form...
Halo 2: New Armour.
"eXtReMeLy ReSiLiEnT"
Master Chief would not have accepted the Mark VI Armour if he'd had more than half a brain cell. The Mark IV he'd taken through the first game had suited him just fine - even the Mark V (worn by Noble Team) would have served him better than the Mark VI!
@@digitaldeathsquid3448 I'm fairly certain he was wearing mark V in Halo CE. It just looks fairly similer.
@@digitaldeathsquid3448 Chief's armor armor in CE was the mk V. Reach's default armor is the mk V(B).
But you don't lose anything that could've helped you gameplay wise
@@Gamer88334 the Combat Evolved Pistol?
I wonder how Jedi: Fallen Order's sequel gonna fare with this in mind.
Perhaps the same reason as the exile in kotor 2
You are now a wound in the force
Even at full power, Cal is pretty average for a Jedi, and if Merrin is playable, then you have a new character to learn abilities with. And Cal did end the game with a pretty nasty gut wound, so he's probably on the mend.
You get cut off from the force.
@@ddsjgvk You play as Merrin, so you have an entirely different playstyle to get used to.
Hmm, good assumptions.
At the start of Gothic 2, you get told at the start that when you defeated the final boss of G1, the entire temple dropped on your head leaving you trapped for too long.
At the start of Gothic 3, you land after a long sea voyage that left you without training and someone stealing all your stuff.
What about Saints Row? That pre-empted the conversation by blowing you up at the end of the first game, so in the sequel you had no money, the city had been taken out of your control and you could even change gender which was an interesting starter upgrade!
When I played SR1, I would always recruit one of the random blonde female gang members at every opportunity. Which meant she was always tagging along behind everything I did. That last drive to the dock? I brought her along...
...so my headcanon retcon for Saints Row 2 is the character from the first game (Player) died in the blast. The female character I created for SR2 (Boss) was that random scrub homie who accompanied him. She didn't get a gender transition-- she got a promotion.
I don't know why I love that headcanon retcon so much, but I love it so much.
@@BogeyTheBear its like MGS5, but without all the confusing nonsense.
Guacamelee 2 does that brilliantly. At the begining of the game Juan remembers his final battle with Calaca where Juan had all luchador skills, but it turns out that after 7 years of happy family life he has to start from square one when the Mexiverce is in danger
The metroid prime trilogy (And practically all the games in the entire franchise) is the prime example of games where in each sequel you loose all your awesome powers at the start of each game
in fact its literally called "Pulling a Metroid"
Lots of explosions seem to be involved in this list.
Erm, was Mike involved in coming up with these ideas for the Devs of these games?🤔
I'd also add Shadow Hearts II: The Covenant. By the end of Shadow Hearts, Yuri can essentially transform into literal gods. But at the start of Shadow Hearts II, he gets jabbed by a sanctified piece of mistletoe and suddenly can't perform any of his fusions. He has to relearn all of them all while looking at a creepy version of himself poking out of a tree trunk in his own soul graveyard... it makes more sense in the context of the video game.
Samus Aran from the Metroid series ends each game with numerous beam and missle upgrades and a fully upgraded power suit in addition to the countless missle and energy tanks she picks up during her adventures yet at the start of each new game all her weapons and equipment are gone some of the ways she's lost her upgrades include being slammed into a elevator by an explosion at the start of Metroid Prime, being attacked by the Ing and Dark Samus at the beginning of Metroid Prime 2 Echoes and Metroid Prime 3 Corruption and being infected by the X parasites in Metroid Fusion. In Metroid Other M however she still possesses all her weapons and equipment but can't use them unless she's authorized to by her former commanding officer Adam Malkovich a gameplay mechanic which wasn't received very well.
I really expected that line to be "instead of being a delicious ice cream treat, he's a delicious beefcake treat."
👀
“Healing now apparently” he says as a lead in to a game that had force healing. Come on, son
Yeah, it might have been a first for the live-action movies, but I'm pretty sure there was at least one instance of Jedi healing in the Clone Wars series, so even in Disney-canon it's still established already. Granted, he's not wrong about the Force doing whatever they want it to, but as I recall that's literally an tenet of both Jedi and Sith philosophies: a skilled enough user can do pretty much anything.
@@willieoelkers5568 And that is just the TV shows and movies. Try the novels and comics.
Star Wars RPGs (whether TT or VG) would not have been nearly as successful without various healing powers.
Friend of mine pointed out that depending on how you see Darth Vader's I'm Getting In A Big Egg Now scene in Empire Strikes Back, we not only had healing in the movies, but DARK SIDE healing.
@@willieoelkers5568 Also in the Mandalorian.
Wait what?!, I got an ad from you guys?!, Is this supposed to happen?!?!?!...even though I guess it's the first ad I watch all the way through.
I mentioned this in the comments of another video but its more appropriate here:
In the third Neptunia game, the reason why the protagonist and her sister are low level, even if they were extremely powerful by the end of the previous game, is because there has been very little conflict in the world since then and there was little need to keep honing their skills. This is why her sister is level 10, she does some work clearing out low-level monsters outside the city, but that's mostly the only action she gets.
Your character is level 1 because she's exceedingly lazy and hasn't done anything since the end of the second game to keep her skills sharp.
Remember when you went to jail for 10 years in Yakuza, erasing the tens, possibly hundreds of billion yen you spent getting all those upgrades in Yakuza 0? Good times.
One of my favorite excuses, partly because the cutscene is so impossibly badass, is Pillars of Eternity 2, Deadfire. The excuse is that the magic soul rock statue beneath your castle, was possed by a god, who tore himself out of the ground in his new statue-bod, and decided to tear out part of your soul to fill his rock-hard abs with more soul juice.
"My name is Desmond Miles, and this is my story."
Okay Desmond, whatever you say.
Wow i wouldnt have noticed the thing he said if you didnt repeat it as a comment. Thanks very funny guy
Jane: “Hard reset on your Jensen” quote
Me: *nearly spits out my coffee*
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass. As this is one of two games that's actually a direct sequel to a previous entry, it would normally feel jarring for Link to not have his hearts and tools. However, the game justifies this by having Link board the ghost ship without prepping any of his equipment, and promptly cast overboard, where nearly drowning has had the longterm effect of setting him back to 3 hearts.
Yeah, MM didn’t do such a good job explaining why young Link was suddenly back to so few hearts when he entered Termina. Zelda II is also a direct sequel from the first game, but it doesn’t explain anything either.
There is no time. His sword will have to do. Squadda-lah.
@@Dark_Mishra probably a side effect from Skull Kid cursing him into the form of a dead plant-kid after mugging him for the Ocarina.
Ys Lacrimosa of Dana did it better. Adol was working as a sailor to pay for his adventuring expenses and then the ship sinks and all his stuff is lost.
He doesnt use money in the island anyways due nobody has any use for money in a deserted island.
Was expecting number 3 to be "The Force got exploded"...
Well... in a metaphorical sense... yes.
I always liked how Bioshock 2 explained why you were playing as the best monster in the original game, but still had a challenge rescuing your daughter. You’ve been dead for ten years and everything had upgraded in the meantime!🤠
Infamous 2 is the one I remember best. (spoilers ahead) Cole was an absolute powerhouse by his own future-self's design, getting nuke-drained by what turns out to be an accomplice was wild, especially when you consider the possible reversal that can happen at the end.
I also remember that moment, when The Beast takes huge chunk of your Power at The start of the game. But I also think, that it was done right way, if we look examples of this video.
How about Legend of Zelda Phantom Hourglass? You have all these super cool weapons in your arsenal at the end of Wind Waker, but accidently leave them all on the ship when you go to save Tetra in Hourglass.
Shadow hearts covenant: the main character shows up in his most iconic demon form, but soon after gets stabbed by a cursed stake, which seals his powers and takes away most of his memories
I remember getting the platinum trophy for assassins creed brotherhood I’d actually randomly collected all the feathers except one! So i used a guide to try and find it, was a nightmare everywhere I went I’d already got the feather think I’d almost gone to all 100 locations again when i finally found it 😅
"To healing now apparently, you'd thought that woulda come in a bit earlier"
But...it did...it's been a thing for a loooong time, You know...Jedi Sages?
Kingdom Hearts into Kingdom Hearts 2. Sora starts having memory problems in the interim game Chain of Memories so he gets put to sleep for a whole year. I think I'd end up sucking too!
Memory problems is definitely the nicer way of saying Namine tore his mind apart like a cat tears through a sofa cushion.
I thought the reason in Metroid Fusion was really interesting. An evil parasite taking over all your stuff seems like a pretty good reason not to want to use them anymore.
For me it was in Gothic 2 where the way they do it is by throwing a landslide onto your hero in the first game after killing the final boss of the game, only for the necromancer buddy of yours to summon you back after a month of laying there under the rocks of the room... yes...a bloody month
Samus Aran:
Japanese only content from 1993: Samus fears being to powerful as she fears that she would lose control so she gives up her gear to the Federation for study. Basically the explanation why she doesn't have her gear obtained on SR388 when she returns to Zebes and later why they are able to send her gear when on the BSL Station. Also, she's claustrophobic.
Metroid Prime: Lost some of her gear she obtained during Zero Mission in an explosion when she let her guard down.
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: Some of her gear she obtained on Tallon IV were stolen by the Ing.
Metroid Other M: She deactivates her Gear from Zebes because Adam ordered her to while on the Bottle Ship.
Metroid Fusion: Some of her gear she kept for her mission for her return to SR388 had to be surgically removed.
Metroid EX: Her gear is stolen by a Space Pirate named Greed after he knocked out her with his tail as the sight of him caused Samus to freeze from PTSD, mistaking Greed for Ridley, the later who has been dead for a very long time. For the record, Greed and Ridley are the same species.
I’m not sure it *entirely* counts because you don’t lose weapons or powers, but Phoenix Wright: Justice for All - you get smacked on the head by a fire extinguisher, so have amnesia and completely forget how to be a lawyer, only minutes before you are due to defend your client in a murder trial. You thus have to take a crash course in law as the trial proceeds, which leads to some expectedly hilarious shenanigans.
You know, my other comment makes me wonder.
How many times are you screwed over in a build because "Plot Important Weapon" does not play nice with it.
IE - I have designed my character to be an absolute master of the scythe....I need to use a sword to win the game.
That's a good question TBH. I don't think I've run into that personally in most of the games I've played, though. I tend to run into the ol' "Your choice of weapon/spell school doesn't actually have the late game support and viability the other classes do, enjoy respeccing and replacing all your gear!" Or the ever popular "We'll let you shoot fireballs, but all the important bosses can ALSO shoot fireballs, so they know you can do it too, and have made themselves immune to fire". Because immunities definitely aren't a known bad idea in games, right? Everyone loves specializing in something cool and then finding that it's literally worthless against one specific enemy type/boss
"Everyone loves specializing in something cool and then finding that it's literally worthless against one specific enemy type/boss"
Or, in many cases, EVERY boss. Yes, thank you every negative status spell in the Final Fantasy series, we won't be needing you, trot along.
In Disgaea 2 Etna (one of the main supporting characters of the 1st game) is a super powered demon, but after the main character uses a demon nail to summon her. Because the nail was fake though, she is reduced to level one. Dumb and fitting with the game
Constant memory loss in the Kingdom Hearts series. Except in Dream Drop Distance and 3, where Yen Sid took away Sora and Riku's powers, and Sora got too messed up by almost being possessed by Xehanort, respectively.
I'm still holding a lot of resentment towards whoever decided on the voices of the characters in Mega man legends.
*coughs because of the otherwise great Mega Man X4*
PS1 era voice acting sucked pretty much universally.
MGSV; The Phantom Pain. The helicopter you were in got sacked and your entire military organization, including the weapons, armor, abilities, and personnel you had acquired and researched was completely sacked by some shadowy military organization even more shadowy than you.
Of course there are spoiler explanations as to what really happened with you, but mother base went up like the library of Alexandria.
Guacamelee 2. After spending much of the first game earning powerful fighting moves and abilities, you get married and have two kids. So by the time the second game happens, you went from rad bod to dad bod. Also your mask of power was destroyed bring your love back to life so that's gone too.
Why is it that when Jane said "Delilah has come to seize power and" my brain immediately filled in the rest of the sentence as "chew bubblegum"?
I think final fantasy 7 remake gonna be interesting to see how they handle the power problem lol
Fun Fact:- In Deus Ex Mankind Divided, during a side quest you find out that the experimental Test Augs were spliced into Jensen between the Panchea Explosion and Mankind Divided by some Russian scientist that Sarif fired for dangerous augs; he got access to Jensen when he was in a coma due to the Panchea incident. I believe what Jensen got is a Titan Aug that never got approved by the DOD.
I’m a huge fan and you guys make really cool videos and yes most characters do
You should do a list of best uses of songs in video games. I can think of “Jesus Built My Hotrod” in Watch_Dogs, “Don’t Sweat the Technique” in Watch_Dogs 2, “Hush” in Spec Ops: The Line, and “Long Tall Sally” in Mafia III.
That giving the ring to Shelob cutscene was one of the stupidist things ever for so many reasons.
Made me delete the game, haven't been back to it since!
At least they got it back
In the Prince of Persia universe, the artifacts of time kind of run on the Sands of Time, which are in some sense confined to Kaileena. The Sands of Time were released when Kaileena was killed at some point in history, and without her death at some point in the timeline, there are no Sands. The medallion worked on the Island of Time because Kaileena (had) lived there and was using it for random science experiments and to try her own hand at thwarting fate using time travel, but at the end of Warrior Within the Prince's meddling leads to her completely avoiding her death, and once they leave the island the medallion had no abilities and was just a piece of junk (well, at least that's what he decided) that his ex had given him.
NFS carbon has a pretty decent explanation for your need for a new car. After leaving rockport, you crash it, and given the circumstances under which you left rockport, it's quite understandably why you don't have backups.
Kingdom Hearts 2, in the start of the game you learn that the end of the inbetween spinoff made you and your friends, literally, frorget every single thing.
Why? becouse a memory-witch wanted to self insert herself into your hero story. talking about fans going to far.
No mass effect?
ME2: exploded
ME3: impounded
Yakuza Kiwami did it nicely too. You stayed 10 years in prison and got rusty for not fighting during that time.
At the end of Digital Devil Saga it's revealed that you were in fact just video game characters, and since the second game takes place in the 'real' world you're back to square one.
Every game in the Kingdom Hearts series in which you play as Sora. CoM had a new combat system for him to learn, KH2 had Sora's memories messed with and basically re-set his abilities, DDD had the Mark of Mastery Exam which then drained his powers when he failed to set up for his low level in KH3...
Metroid: Other M - Despite previous sequels like Super Metroid offering no explanation on why Samus loses her vast array of powers at the start, Other M offers an in-game explanation where she isn't allowed to use the powers she has at her disposal until Adam, the CO with jurisdiction over the mission, gives authorization. Except this authorization for some reason also applies to Samus's defensive upgrades, and she still needs to separately collect health and missile expansions because those didn't carry over for whatever reason.
My headcanon explanation for that, which is not even slightly explainy enough to explain things, is that Adam only intended Samus to keep away from using things like Power Bombs for fear they'd blow up most of the surrounding area, and didn't expect that she'd count the Varia Suit the same way.
ADAM: ...So you didn't turn on the suit because I hadn't told you you could?
SAMUS: Just like I didn't use Power Bombs because you hadn't told me I could, or I didn't use Super Missiles, or the Ice Beam, or...
ADAM: I thought you'd understand that those were different!
SAMUS: THIS IS WHY I DON'T WORK IN A CHAIN OF COMMAND!
...It still doesn't make any sense whatsoever, but I would have liked to have seen that scene.
I view it as a wierd way of her showing she respects him combined with mildly self-destructive stubbornness.
So many ways to make your character suck...
-Mass Effect 2 - you die and are brought back to life 2 years later
-South Park the Fractured but Whole - the other kids just decide they don't want to play a fantasy game anymore and switch to superheroes
-Lego Harry Potter Years 5-7 - Umbridge wipes your ability to cast the spells from years 1-4
-Kingdom Hearts - you could easily make a list just dedicated to Kingdom Hearts resets
Mass Effect 2:
You died.
Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories - You forgot everything the moment you stepped foot inside Castle Oblivion.
Metroid Prime - Ridley damaged your gear while escaping after disrupting a pirate operation.
Metroid Fusion - The old power suit was infected with an X parasite and had to be removed through surgery. The X parasite has taken over the old suit.
Metroid Prime 2: The Ing stole your stuff after you met Dark Samus. Your ship also needs repairs.
Sonic the Hedgehog 3: Knuckles managed to some how strike you at just the right time to swipe the chaos emeralds.
The Ys game franchise is particularly funny in how they explain Adol's power loss. He literally just loses all his legendary armor and swords either through circumstance like a ship capsizing at the start of Ys 8, or in Ys 9 where he literally just misplaces everything, which is something his inquisitor when he gets arrested at the start of the game even points out as being completely ludicrous.😅
Kingdom Hearts does that every single game Sora is the protagonist of, in Chain Of Memories he's in a castle that's made him lose his memories and powers, in KH2 he's been asleep for a year and is super rusty, in Dream Drop Distance he and Riku are taking a trial and Sora almost gets his heart yoinked, and in Kingdom Hearts III he _just_ had his heart almost yoinked and lost most of his power because of it
one of the best i have seen is Overlord II
on the previous game the protag got laid
so on the sequel you play as his son that got taken from the fortress of his dad, then the mom just abandons him on a snow covered city
which means the son gets his dad's position since he ded, but also must be able to prove himself
Even more egregious are the times developers make a _prequel_ game in the middle of a series, make all kinds of cool upgrades and quality of gameplay improvements that aren't present in the supposed first game in the series.
In Ys franchise, Adol always lost his OP equipments because everytime he sailed with a ship, that ship will always be sink into the sea and he's always stranded unconscious
Going to need some kind of confirmation from Jane that she used the term "Double Hard Robot Bastard" in tribute to 90s British Sitcom "Game On".
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The entire Metroid Series. With each new entry you loos all your power. Like Metroid Prime where thanks to an explosion, you loose you Varia Suit, your Missiles, your Morphball and more.
Oh I don’t know...I think every guy with a hot sexy body should just loose his ability to put a shirt on oh and never gain that ability back.
"Don't make me reset your Jensen ! " Sounds like an awesome threat
You forgot Link's Awakening, where Links looses all his powerful items at the beginning in a shipwreck.
Well... also... maybe there's there "it's all a dream" angle. IE... nothing is real.
In the first Pillars of Eternity you become lord of a big old castle which just happens to have a mountain sized statue buried in the ground underneath it. At the start of PoE 2 the statue gets possessed by a god who decides to go for a walk, completely obliterating your castle and everything in it (you included). You then get a new life from the god of death which puts you right back to level 1 scrub. There's not much explanation of returning companions losing all of their levels and abilities though.
Old school example, but Monkey Island 3's dueling section. Your full set of dueling insults don't work, because sailors use different insults.
Being exactly one chapter away from finishing the Lord Of The Rings, my first thought was oh look. It's the dope who messed up everything the Fellowship just finished doing.
My eyes swelled up with tears when i heard the background music they put for megaman legends 2, its my all time favorite childhood game for the ps1, got emotional just remembering how the days were back when that game came out simpler times compared to how things are now in the usa
I'm having flashbacks to Symphony of the Night, which isn't really a sequel, I know, but where you have a bunch of kit, and then Death loots it all, and Metroid: Other M, where Samus basically starts the game with everything she had in Super Metroid, but then her daddy issues get her to turn them off until Adam gives her clearance to use them, like she's a team player, again, all of a sudden. Walking through your first volcanic chamber without turning on the Varia Suit, just so you can later find another one, and THEN Malkovich authorizes Varia, is so dumb I almost cried, and did swear. It was nice to not have them need to invent a reason to lose, and recollect them all, like Prime did, but it hurt. It's also my biggest fear of BotW2, when it comes out, because it already feels like it will invalidate BotW, and if nothing I did carries over...waited a long time for my Skyward Sword sequel with a BotW skin.
4:08......Kind of? There were really 3(i think)? endings to the original Deus Ex HR, and one of them was the 'burn it all down' ending. However, if I recall correctly, there was supplemental material basically stating "before Adam could decide, the place blew up". So yeah it WAS one of the endings but the difference being, you didn't get to choose it. I THINK it was going to tie in to the mysterious group that found Adam afterward and reset his gear, along with giving him all the new hidden upgrades in the sequel
Kingdom Hearts II : You forgot.
They even did a whole game about it.
There's a clever way they did this in Watch_Dogs 2. In the first game, all the hacks and skills you use were given to Aiden by a contact of his inside DedSec, so you _should_ be able to use them in the sequel since you're in the group, right?
Actually, no. An audio-log mentions that when Blume launched ctOS 2.0, they closed all the old backdoors that the group were using to mess around in their systems. When you're spending skill points in this game, you're actually diverting resources so members of DedSec can remake the old hacks using the new protocols. It also explains why you need to steal special tech or intel from rival gangs or security companies working for Blume as they have an exploit you can use to help development.
Metroid Fusion, in which Samus had her entire genetic code rewritten, making her prior upgrades wholly incompatible with her body, at least until the techies at the Federation develop new upgrades that won't kill her.