I'm An Idiot - Lets Buy The Same Guitar I Sent Back - Gibson 335
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- Опубліковано 20 бер 2024
- In today's video, Paul and James from The Studio Rats look at Paul's new guitar a Gibson Murphy Lab 1964 335.
I recently bought, and after a few days took back the exact same model to a guitar shop as it was'nt the right one. Gibson guitars are not known for their consistency and here is another example of that, It's funny how 2 exact guitars can play and sound so different.
The Studio Rats are core band members Paul Drew on guitar/production/mixing, drummer James Ivey and Dan Hawkins on bass. They collaborate with singers and musicians to produce radio-ready songs.
335's are a tough guitar to buy. Each one has a personality of its own. They're my favorite Gibson as well as Epiphone. That said, finding the one that you bond with is really a lot of work.
Just like most Gibson's I suppose. Just got done with a disappointing attempt with the new DG335 (Epiphone Dave Grohl signature). Just so far from the PRS Hollowbody II wood library with maple neck and fretboard that has spoiled me for years. Think I might skip the frustrations and just chase a 594 Hollowbody even though I would love to find a way to make a 335 work for nostalgia reasons.
@Tiger1016. If you’re in the UK I’m selling the PRS 594 hollowbody.
@TheStudioRats I'd be down if I was. In the US though. I'm sure it will be easy to move though. GLWS
Happy birthday and congrats on the 335. Nothing better than finding a real keeper
Happy Birthday Paul. Enjoy that guitar. 🎸 be careful because the 20’s are tough.
I remember them first time round.
Sounds incredible! 😎👌
Many happy ""Returns" mate 😜
Paul - Happy Birthday. I did the exact same thing for my "Big" Birthday. ES-345 and no regrets.. What I got out of this video is that ---- Drew can friggin play! 10:00 Cheers!
Thanks fella, enjoy the 345!
Happy Birthday . Awesome guitar
Cheers Guillet.
Happy "21st" Paul!
Congrats on finding "a big birthday" guitar - it's a great day when that all aligns like that.
James - you're one of the best drummer guitar players I've ever heard!!! Well done, sir!
I'll have my big birthday in about 3 years. I think buying a "once in a lifetime" guitar is just the thing to do for this occasion, for reasons not necessary to mention for those of us who are in this stage of our lives. Rock on brothers!
Happy 21st and a bit, Paul! That guitar looks and sounds superb. Enjoy it!
I always enjoy and/or learn something from your videos. Thanks for being you.
Cheers Rusty
Hey Paul, happy Fif.. Ah, 21st! Great video as always from you gentlemen. Beautiful Gibson. Great playing as always. Much appreciated.
Cheers!
You guys are so funny, this channel is becoming super entertaining other than informative 😂 Love u guys!
My opinion: you are very, very, very well equipped with your beautiful "PRS McCarty 594 Hollowbody 11". You can't accuse her of being uncontrollable (as a hollowbody guitar). It's not the right guitar for the job, but that's down to you and not the guitar.
So I would like to take up the cudgels for PRS here...
My first encounter I remember was in the 90s, when I saw an PRS advertisement with Santana. PRS? Never heard of it. Then I played one (it was a Classic Electric made specially for the Musikmesse in Frankfurt) in my local Music Store and immediately bought it. I was flashed by the feeling, the balance, the resonance, the scale lenght was VERY attractive to me, the neck was (and still is after 30 Years!!!). One day the 3-way switch broke and had to be replaced. I took the guitar to a large music store and had it "repaired". After that, the guitar sounded completely different. Extremely thin, the humbuckers no longer had any punch at all. I complained about it, but they said everything was correct. I couldn't stand that sound, and I thought it was my fault, maybe my ears have changed or whatever... That's why it just sat in its case for years (...so here´s the point why I am an total Idiot...) When I moved, I took it to another dealer (...that was a smart idea...), who discovered that the electrics had not been properly soldered = hence the bad sound. Since then I've been extremely happy with the guitar. I really can only say the very best about PRS. Over the years I've played a few here and there and they've all been wonderful to play. No dead spots on the fretboard, no strange string action... I am not offending Gibson in any way, but from my own experience I have no doubts about which brand I would spend my money on... Best greetings from Germany. Michael.
Ah Beautiful playing!! Happy Birthday. Have a great Day. 🎉
Cheers Timo
Sounds great and fab playing Paul, I even didn't notice the flub on 1st play through. Needed a 2nd take 😊
hey Paul, congrats on the 50th birthday. I’m a little bit ahead of you! I have a Collings I 35 gold top an unusual color for them that I love it’s not relicd- I do have a Murphy lab 54 gold top that I love, I put the music city replacement, compensated wraptail on it and it changed the world for that guitar
One thing I recommend you might want to take a look at is get some aged knobs and other plastic parts maybe the scratchplate from 59 parts I think it’s a Polish company. The guy does amazing stuff because if you look closely at your knobs and the little metal pointers, they’re not aged at all I don’t understand why Gibson doesn’t do that especially now with the Murphy lab fenders able to age everything on their guitars, but anyhow, I replace the knobs on my 54 Murphy lab and it looks amazing. Take a look at 59 parts. The owners a a great guy.
I understand you. My favourite guitar is my cheapest guitar. My mexican strat fat deluxe special edition... I have never seen a strat like that... Weights the double of normal strat but when you play it can feel vibrations of all the woods even the neck... It's a strange strat guitar... Sounds like heaven. I tried to buy another of the same model but it's completely different... Opps and happy birthday!!!!
Happy Birthday and that's one hell of a Bday gift you got for yourself. I own the ES-345 and you would need to shoot me to grab mine lol. Whether it's the 335, 345, or 355 they are fantastic guitars that can really get all
sounds out of. They are so versatile. I love how the notes resonate and their tone for days. I also love to play it unplugged and it's always nearby. Sure it sounds great in a good amp but sometimes you just want to play
it either way.
Great guitar...congrats!
Beautiful purchase 🤩 happy 21st birthday!! 🎁
Thank you! 🤗
Happy birthday Paul!
Happy birthday! Glad you finally found a 335 that you connect with. I'm still looking.
Thanks 👍
Check out the Collings i35lc vintage. Tremendous guitar.
Happy birthday! Such a beautiful 335, I especially liked how it rings when you pick more lightly. My dream 335 is a Rusty Anderson signature. Not the best build quality but it feels great. Soundwise it left a lot to be desired so I swapped pickups four times until I found Monty's PAFs. Best pickups in this guitar by a mile. Buying second hand is great advice for two reasons: one, as you mentioned, you don't lose money. Two, the first ding ist not from you ;-)
Gonna go ahead and comment after just 40 seconds. The opening you layed down is the definition of tasteful. Im gonna steal it after I try n learn it. Just for private use of course. Now let's see what the rest of the video has to offer. After all the help from you a while back with the Katana, I already know. Pretty much get something from all The Studio Rats episodes. Keep it up gents.
cheers fella.
@@TheStudioRatsdidn't edit fast enough. I changed friend at the end to gents, cause some times its just Paul. Didn't wanna leave James out of my appreciation. Carry-on.
Happy 21st! Nice one and congrats! I bought a new Epiphone Rivera (=Sheraton with plainer headstock) on St. Valentrine's Day 1968 and loved those mini-humbuckers. It was a lovely guitar and way lighter than anything like it, that I've played in the last 30 years. Oh well....... just another "I shoulda kept that one"
Very nice!
Happy birthday. May the universe keep blessing you with the greatest guitar tone on UA-cam by far. A question what do you think about the high end Eastman guitar? the 335 style.
Cheers!!
Happy Birthday Paul ! You're not an idiot . When Gibson changed ownership in November 2018 then new owner James Curleigh and interim CEO Cesar Gueikian were really wanting to correct the Gibson ship . I knew they were going to really want to impress us with better quality Gibson's than in years past . The factory line stuff under Henry's ownership was more miss than hit . The QC was horrible and Gibson's attempts to revamp the line was becoming a joke . So when the new owners released the factory line guitars under their watch , I knew this would be the best time to buy . I actually bought 3 . Flying V , Explorer and the 60th anniversary 59 . I was right . The V and the Explorers are great and the 59 is amazing . I did swap out the bridge and tailpiece hardware on the V & Explorer with Corsa/Faber hardware . Sadly Gibson don't source out great hardware for their factory line . But the sound/tone/feel on early 2019 Flying V & Explorer IMO put the Henry Era models to shame . I have a 2012 Gibson Les Paul Traditional and it is a dud . It feels like Epiphone Les Paul quality . I had to get fret work done and it is noisy when clean . I'm eventually going to have it all redone . IMO the Henry ERA factory line was okay up until 2008 . IDK if the economic crash made Gibson cut corners . I remember playing a 2014 Red wine Gibson Les Paul and a 2014 Gibson Custom Black Beauty at a guitar shop around that time and they were AWFUL . They sounded awful , felt awful and the attention to detail was horrible . I know some found good ones during this era but I didn't . I think Gibson is making some of their best stuff today BUT I think that is about to change . Gibson has been known to underpay and overwork their employees . Being owned by shareholders looking for a quick return and treating employees like shit will eventually show in the product . TBH I've seen some recent videos of bad QC on Gibson factory line stuff . Only time will tell .
What a fantastic video have a wonderful day also happy birthday ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Thank you sir.
Hi Paul
Happy birthday and what a guitar. Just wanted to share a similar story after watching your video.
Funny things these guitars. I searched for a while playing different r9 guitars each one was different. I eventually found the best one from maybe 10 different r9 guitars and spent a small fortune on it. Then one day i played a strat that was pretty much identical to a white strat i already owned. Long story short i traded the r9 for the white strat. I remember driving back home having a nervous breakdown thinking what have i done "i now have 2 pretty much identical strats" and i loved that les paul. The strat was the same model same pickups ect same colour....
I just connected with that strat more so than any other guitar.
Sometimes you just got to do what feels right even though at times it can defy logic.
Great story!
On my 5th 335. Just couldn’t gel with the others. This one is a keeper.
I must have played 20 335's before I found the right one for me. I ended up selling a Custom Shop 59 reissue for a Nashville 63 reissue that just played the best of all the 335s I have played. Finding an amazing 335 is a guitar quest.
Very nice!
Sounds great. I have the USA one, not Murphy. It's great as well, just feel like it needs more sustain.
I bought a cherry 335 for my "21st" birthday last year. Needed some work by a luthier but now plays well.
Nice one!
Paul, the 335 sounds amazing! What effects and amp are you using with it? Cheers and Happy Birthday (soon)!
I did the same on my Les Paul quest. 'knew' i had to have a wide flamed lemon burst R9, ended up with an R7. When it's the one, you know!
Gosh, I want one of these so badly. I thought my next guitar was going to be a telecaster, but I may go for one of these instead. I also said that about my last guitar purchase (Jazzmaster CS59) and the guitar purchase before that (VOS 56 Gold Top). The poor telecaster keeps getting put off. I'll have a tele one day.
Happy 21st 😅 beautiful 335 if you decide to sell it give James first refusal he looked like he was enjoying that guitar an awful lot 😂.
1. Happy Birthday Paul! 2. Regarding the PRS hollow body; Ted Nugent made a good living playing rock on hollow body guitars (i.e. Gibson Byrdland) ;) 3. BEAUTIFUL 335 Congrats!!
I forgot about The Nugent! Cheers
Ritchie Blackmore: cherry red too. Play full blast, treble booster into a AC30 for Wring that Neck or Child in Time 😋
Happy birthday! Amazing sound, what amp did you use in these clips and did you use The OX box also?
I used an Amplified National ODR
when are you sending it back?
I don't know how historically correct it is, but seeing an es style guitar without binding on the f holes just messes with my head. I have a lovely original 60s Baldwin with the binding, sire do it nowadays for no money at all. Can anyone tell me why? Genuine question.
No f hole binding on Gibson ES series guitars.
Ever…..
Sorry Paul did I hear that right, did you say this is your 3rd 35th Birthday? Happy Birthday and a lovely guitar!😊
Love the 335! Can I ask what string guage you use on yours?
Always 10s
Hi Paul. Are you willing to tell us objectively what differences you have experienced between these two identical guitar models?
I think it would help others when shopping for guitars and when we start to question/feel a same, same but different experience.
You know weight, balance, muted vs open sounding, resonates more or less, PuP’s more textured in one vs the other etc…
What was it that was so different between these two guitars? Thanks
Yes sure, it’s brighter and resonates more
I can't get on with 335s AT ALL...🥺
They SOUND...great...but...
They always make my right shoulder ACHE...because of that wide body, holding my shoulder/arm too high.
I'll stick with my Les Paul's and Strats.
Though...that DOES sound EPIC!
That's how it is with guitars. Different guitars of the same model can sound and feel completely different to each other.... Except for PRS, who seemed to have solved this variance between models :)
Absolutely 100% agree.
From your opening chords it's easy to hear that the guitar has huge dynamics. No offense to the PRS but it sounded very one dimensional compared to this 335. It also looks stunning which makes you want to pick it up.
Gorgeous. But those are super expensive even 2nd hand. They don’t depreciate quickly like other new guitars.
Had a Luke 3. Does any sound. Almost too perfect - small fretboard dimensions though.
This is why I can’t see buying guitars on line. Gotta play em and make a bond. And even then, what might seem like the start of a meaningful relationship after a few hours or days in the shop might still end in a messy breakup. Online buying is like getting a mail order bride out of a magazine
Gibson guitars are pretty inconsistent in general but this seems to be worse with the 335s (and I imagine other semi hollows as well). Never played one I liked the sound of, last time I left the store with a 594 McCarty Hollowbody which was far superior in tone and playability. Would love to find a great 335 though
are those the stock pickups? they sound great
They are
Hang on I remember you saying you’re not a guitar snob anymore when you played that epiphone 335 dot you got for your friend 😂
Joking, anyway….
Have you tried a 339 and if so how does it compare to the 335 please as I’m really close to pulling the trigger on a 339
Thanks buddy
The 339 is most definitely not like a 335. It’s more like the ES-LP’s that Gibson made for a while around 2015. If you want the shape and style in a small package then go for it, but don’t expect it to perform/sound like a 335. It’s just too small for that.
I was interested in a 339 for a long time because 335 style guitars are so big. Too big I thought. Then when I tried playing these models and comparing them, I realised the 339 was pointless for me. Firstly I actually found the 339 too small in a practical sense. When I play higher up the neck the gap between body and horn is uncomfortably small because my knuckles knock the horn. I also found the larger 335 style body more comfortable because my arm would kind of rest over the body in a comfortable manner. I really wanted to like a 339 conceptually but rather disliked it in my hands. The semi hollow aspect seemed slight to me on the 339 whereas, oh yes, there it is on the original 335 size body. I actually have the Murphy Lab Watermelon 355 now which I got upgraded from a cheaper guitar as a result of a Gibson customer service mess (involving a lost guitar). Do try the both the full size 335 styles and 339 before you buy to avoid any surprise disappointment. Always keep in mind the subject of this video. You can try a row of identical guitars and often there’ll be ones you think are bad and only one or two speak to you. Same, same and yet different 🤗
@@djt6546 superb reply Thankyou and I had suspected that about the smaller size. Appreciate your time. It’s very helpful thanks
I buy myself a guitar every birthday, life’s too short
I remember 5 years or so ago when I realised that I'd prob have to buy a custom shop for any chance of quality. And now years later, even Murphy labs are knocking out sub par guitars. So no matter how much you spend, you still might buy a melon. That ain't right whatsoever. Those guitars should be meticulously crafted and set up to the nth degree. I can't believe 5 to 10 grand can buy you shite. When you can spend 500 and get decent. Sire Larry Charlton for the win.
*carlton 😂
I think the bottom line is that cost has no bearing on the finished article from a function and tone point of view. It’s like if you got the most expensive HiFi components and they’re all 5* products with amazing cables, sometimes all the bits come together in a way that hasn’t worked in harmony.
I see guitars like this. There are only good and bad guitars, but they’re at EVERY price point. Now if you spend £10,000 on an independent luthier hand made guitar I expect they will try and try again until it’s perfect. You’ll most likely get a wonderful instrument. But all the big brands are making expensive guitars on production lines. Even the high end with more attention to detail, won’t get the same level of attention as the independent luthier who will not stop working until all
the ingredients work together to produce something greater than the sum of its parts. Is it right that there are so many guitars over £1000 that are sub par. I think we can all agree No. But hey ho. Keep in mind for every 5* review of a product there are always lemmings waiting to annoy someone’s turn to get a bad egg. To make matters worse one persons great guitar is another persons worst and vice versa 🙄
The fun and sheer frustration of guitar hunting the model we are after. Ce la vie 😊
Gibson Murphy Lab Guitars get bagged all the time, which l don’t understand, “This review is proof” They feel great, they sound awesome and they have Soul, no disrespect “BUT “ if you can’t afford one just keep playing your SE PRS’s and your Epiphony’s and LETS NOT FORGET the Myriads of Gibson Copies out there as well, Really l won’t hold that against you … “REALLY 😂” Great video well done ……
Gorgeous guitar but I can't afford to watch when lee isn't on the show 😂
When I picked out my own Gibsons, I usually go through a LOT of the same ones before finding the right one.
Only a moron would assume the 5 black ebony LP Classics in front of you are exactly the same (if you've been a guitar player for a long time, you know there are better or worse in the same batch and no-one person has the same definition or better or worse, everyone is different)
When I bought my R8 in 2009 I went into the shop with a money no object mindset I was just going to buy the best Les Paul they had. I tried 8 altogether R7's R8's and R9's and came away with my R8 which was not the most expensive didn't have a monster flame top (although it is far from a normal plain top) but it felt, played, sounded, even smelt better than all the others. I still have it and play it every day and have since sold my other 4 Les Paul's as they just couldn't compete.
@@billywagadaggerandthelongg6830 nice, My fave of all my guitars is the 23 Modern Supreme (Massive Red Wine Quilt-top that is almost Black, the light brings out the quilt like the 'Eye of Sauron') that plays like an old thin late 80's superstrat neck. (Reminds me of my 91 US Peavey Destiny)
Very Jealous muchly, 🎸🔥
Great find for your upcoming fiftieth BD, sounds awesome MY 60th was yesterday so I'm treating myself with a trip to the pyramids of Egypt. Enjoy this beautiful 335 and make it feedback to the sky ❤🎉❤🎉
Happy birthday Nabbs
@@TheStudioRats same to yoU Mr. D
The same or the same model?
same model exactly just different guitars
Want one! Notice you still have the Nik Huber. Got one second hand earlier this week but with the less powerful 59 in the bridge. It's almost perfect and will be a keeper, the balance between the two pups is just right and, it can pretty much do anything. Love stripped down guitars, fancy ones always look more like a piece of art rather than a workhorse.