LL COOL J vs CANIBUS from the BEEF II DVD

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  • Check out our clips on the HISTORY OF HIP HOP. Watch the classic battle between LL Cool J and Canibus? Who really won? You decide...
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  • @ELMOZEE
    @ELMOZEE 9 років тому +645

    both Meth and Red basically said that LL overreacted

    • @MFSGamePlay
      @MFSGamePlay 6 років тому +38

      Absolutely

    • @lamafia3041
      @lamafia3041 5 років тому +8

      @@kennedymrshall9641 I didn't hear them take no sides Wachu talkin bout ?

    • @controversialsolutions3410
      @controversialsolutions3410 5 років тому +5

      @@kennedymrshall9641 plus they all on the same label

    • @controversialsolutions3410
      @controversialsolutions3410 5 років тому +41

      I'm trippin off Meth saying LL always takes it out of context. Personally I don't think He ever challenged, or battled, anyone of the same financial backup. Both Cannabus AND Kool Moe D are lyrically BETTER. (My opinion)
      And who was Hammer, and Ice-T to battle?
      L is the man, but if it weren't for his songs to the ladies, (his largest fan support) he would have most likely faded away like many artist who were better than him. Def Jam+Sex selling+decent lyrics = longevity

    • @controversialsolutions3410
      @controversialsolutions3410 5 років тому +26

      Last of all, LL admitted he got emotional, in his feelings about it........

  • @arthurleon1387
    @arthurleon1387 13 років тому +207

    I love how Method man is randomly getting a haircut during the interview lol

  • @timmartin1547
    @timmartin1547 10 років тому +262

    I came just to see KRS-One reaction that shit is hilarious lol "you don't come out ya face asking to borrow nothing! You lucky to be on the recorrdddd" haha classic part on this DVD

  • @NikCarterNYC
    @NikCarterNYC 9 років тому +265

    " you lucky to be on the REKKKID" LMAO always my favorite part of BEEF

    • @nc69chicano
      @nc69chicano 4 роки тому +12

      Trying to make that GIF right now lol

    • @NikCarterNYC
      @NikCarterNYC 4 роки тому +5

      @@nc69chicano ROFL get it fam!

    • @NikCarterNYC
      @NikCarterNYC 3 роки тому +2

      @Humble 9300 ROFL 100, B!

    • @NikCarterNYC
      @NikCarterNYC 2 роки тому

      @Nev Reid That is so false lol. Uncle L DID HIM DIRTY THOUGH, not changing his verse after Canibus changed HIS? that's foul lol

    • @valjeanlee7060
      @valjeanlee7060 Рік тому +1

      But its true...lol

  • @franktalk5037
    @franktalk5037 9 років тому +304

    The look on KRS ONE's face and his reaction is _priceless_! LMBAO!

    • @mishylove
      @mishylove 9 років тому +5

      +El Toquinho AND that laugh! Lol.

    • @cali67918
      @cali67918 9 років тому +52

      +El Toquinho Yeah KRS pissed me off he still not understanding that even if LL felt it was a shot he came to Canibus and asked him to rewrite the verse and he did and LL dissed him anyway?? Thats bullshit.

    • @franktalk5037
      @franktalk5037 9 років тому +5

      cali67918
      *STFU*, Can-I-Bus fanboy.

    • @dutchieboy22
      @dutchieboy22 8 років тому +14

      +cali67918 Krs is right and it's ll cool j song and album he can do whatever he wants and he did.

    • @cali67918
      @cali67918 8 років тому +41

      +dutchieboy22 What does have to do with the fact the Canibus changed his verse and LL Still dissed him? Thats a bitch move plain and simple.

  • @jonathanamalidosan5476
    @jonathanamalidosan5476 5 років тому +327

    Canibus deserved better than this, he literally changed the verse out of respect and LL STILL dissed him.

    • @rafaelhill
      @rafaelhill Рік тому +31

      LL a Beast🙌 but Canibus 2nd round knockout diss is probably one of the hardest tracks of all time🔥🔥🔥

    • @KingsdaleNorth
      @KingsdaleNorth Рік тому +8

      I am older than hip hop. With that said, LL is from the old school and battling is something he did day one. LL had what we called braggadocios back then. Talking smack and backing it up. I need a beat, I'm bad
      Momma said knock you out. LL has no respect for anybody in the rap game talking about borrowing, of all things his mic. Rules of the game rule says I'm about to land on your head Bis. That's exactly what LL did. Landed in his head. Changing the verse was a demand, not a choice Old school rules dictate
      Meaning the damage was already done. LL's response is to the original verse. LL ain't letting that slide.

    • @lamontwalls8888
      @lamontwalls8888 Рік тому +15

      LL..lost this battle

    • @davidk7k693
      @davidk7k693 Рік тому +11

      There's a funny story to it...
      LL was a b!tch asking Canibus to rewrite his verse and LL's verse was clearly attacking Canibus.
      At that time LL cool J was on the front cover of the Source magazine with a crown on his head and five mic's.
      Canabis rewrote his verse : ,, I'm gonna snatch your crown with your head still attached to it..."
      And: ,, I fight for mic's..."
      In my opinion both verse's are dope!!!

    • @DefSquadFan
      @DefSquadFan Рік тому +6

      So would you say that LL's diss was something that a homo rapper would do?

  • @DavidMoore12345
    @DavidMoore12345 12 років тому +70

    The irony behind the fact that Canibus was the illest MC's in the 90's
    " Man when canibus use to spit, we had to go back for a minute and re write our shit" -Nas

    • @daywalker48603
      @daywalker48603 Місяць тому +1

      They said the same thing about Pun. You know you are top tier when they do.

    • @Tonsirton
      @Tonsirton 22 дні тому +1

      Without A single Doubt!!!💯👑🎼🎵🎶

  • @andrewbryce2707
    @andrewbryce2707 8 років тому +205

    even after KRS was corrected and told Bis said let me borrow that he still acting like Bis was taking liberties. Bis did no wrong, LL heard Bis verse and saw it was flames. man just didn't want to be outshined on his own record.

    • @jamieldn
      @jamieldn 8 років тому +11

      no, not really. Bis was very cheeky and got burned.

    • @bigjon7143
      @bigjon7143 8 років тому +10

      Bro, Bis either did 1 of 2 things. He either misunderstood L's verse, OR he dissed L after L put him on a song just to get a little notoriety. Either way its on Bis 100%. That's the undisputed facts son, and everybody in the industry and all the fans that were checking the shit at the time knows it. period.

    • @SpectreRyder
      @SpectreRyder 5 років тому +2

      The thing is: Bis was a newcomer. I understand you star struck. But if you wanna say a line about LL good or bad you should run it by him to see how he would react. Because you're a newcomer. It's different if Method Man would've said it. LL would've went to him like a man. But because Bis was young and up and coming LL saw it as a threat.

    • @kinglift5611
      @kinglift5611 4 роки тому +4

      I agree, LL literally had the weakest verse even with the whole diss; some may argue master p had the worst verse, but I fucked with master p verse personally.

    • @ForzaBlucerchiati
      @ForzaBlucerchiati 3 роки тому +9

      this is the correct answer. how dare this newcomer come on my song and spit that fire .Canibus verse was far better than everyones elses. it wasnt just slightly better or even debatable and that was the problem.

  • @MCILLDISSNEELAND
    @MCILLDISSNEELAND 3 роки тому +29

    Bis did fix the lyrics when he know LL was not happy with it. And LL still pulled a bitch move by dissing him. That's it. Yall glorify "being real" but tolerate a bitch move just because he is a legend. No wonder why many "fake rappers" are making money, yall complain about it but still let it go on

    • @guilhermebastos7049
      @guilhermebastos7049 2 роки тому +1

      Bicth move indeed! That's why he got knocked the fuck out in the second round!

  • @jonjon6534
    @jonjon6534 2 роки тому +14

    I listen to this just to hear KRS say..."You lucky to be on the recciiiid!"😅

  • @thirdeyeindoctrine
    @thirdeyeindoctrine 12 років тому +28

    "he took something out of context and ran with it, he's always been that way, you heard Break of Dawn."
    LMAOOOOOOO my nigga method man summing it up real quick

    • @teevee5923
      @teevee5923 3 місяці тому

      How he laughs at the end😂

  • @CrackaJakRAP
    @CrackaJakRAP 8 років тому +57

    LOL Mr. Meth is high off his rocker here

    • @j-r-m7775
      @j-r-m7775 4 роки тому +2

      That’s Redman

    • @rickyray2794
      @rickyray2794 4 роки тому +4

      @@j-r-m7775 No, thats Meth he's talking about.

    • @j-r-m7775
      @j-r-m7775 4 роки тому +2

      @@rickyray2794 Yeah I saw what he meant later

    • @CBright7831
      @CBright7831 4 роки тому +8

      Let's be honest: Both Red & Meth are **BOTH** in another stratosphere during their interviews.

  • @hiephoi058
    @hiephoi058 8 років тому +284

    99% of his fans wear high heels

    • @InfiniteUmbra
      @InfiniteUmbra 8 років тому +77

      99% of Canibus fans don't exist tho lol

    • @L1am21
      @L1am21 8 років тому +29

      +Raphael Nelson you know that don't make sense tho lol

    • @InfiniteUmbra
      @InfiniteUmbra 8 років тому +12

      lol It made sense to me. It doesn't have to be exactly factual, it's moreso that Canibus has very, very little fans in this world and LL is correct in that.

    • @InfiniteUmbra
      @InfiniteUmbra 8 років тому +2

      +hiephoi058 But we all know that isn't true

    • @hiephoi058
      @hiephoi058 8 років тому

      Raphael Nelson /watch?v=TAcT90Kv9uM

  • @replacementkillah
    @replacementkillah 4 роки тому +23

    Artists who were really on the record: "LL misunderstood what was being said and reacted."
    KRS 1: "I don't really know what Canibus did, but whatever it was, he shouldn't have done it. He should have just been respectful and grateful to be on the track."
    Interviewer: But he was
    KRS 1: "yeah but he shouldn't have even done that"

  • @rickyray2794
    @rickyray2794 9 років тому +116

    I'm actually surprised KRS was so biased here, especially considering he didn't even know what the actual lyric was that started this whole thing.. 2:32

    • @williamnook8081
      @williamnook8081 9 років тому +29

      Ricky Ray I feel the exact same way... Seeing as how KRS and Canibus stand for the exact same thing Real Hip hop.

    • @rickyray2794
      @rickyray2794 8 років тому +18

      Daniel Haze Then he defends a child molester..

    • @walterwaterz3872
      @walterwaterz3872 5 років тому +1

      While floured, you do have to understand his bias. He is one of the greatest ever, bit also, especially, one of the greatest of his generation,time,era, etc. He, and LL, along with Kane, Ra', & Kool G, where the exact same, just in their style/way. They where piers and even frienemiez . Its like Drake and Kendrick, the have a complicated and frienemieish relationship, but if Drake where ever in the situation/ ever hat to, he would probably diss for him. Don't know how that would come about, would have to be huge, but still ( or and for the record, no I'm not competing Drake & Kendrick w/ LL' & KRS. I'm mean I am literally, but only literary.)
      So like I stated, its floured , but empath-iable.

    • @charliehill6438
      @charliehill6438 5 років тому +3

      It dosen't matter perception it everything.

    • @mojowasabi8823
      @mojowasabi8823 5 років тому +22

      Krs is always biased towards something, dude never cares about the facts. He said bambata gets a pass to molest boys. Cant take dudes opinions seriously

  • @youngkey252
    @youngkey252 9 років тому +90

    LL won off name alone... If no one had ever heard of either one of em, LL woulda been slaughtered... 2nd Round KO is one of the best diss tracks EVER!!!!

    • @carltonthompson2149
      @carltonthompson2149 8 років тому +4

      +Kian Davis Really, if LL was a nobody, none of Canibus's lines would have made any sense. Come on dude. Even in a boxing match...a draw goes to the champion. Canibus never stood a chance. The King recognized him and got off the throne to battle him. Kudos to the King...it gave him more years in the game.

    • @youngkey252
      @youngkey252 8 років тому +13

      +Carlton Thompson I said if "you'd never heard of either of them"... meaning listening with unbiased ears... Canibus shit was flat out better!

    • @jouster909
      @jouster909 5 років тому +5

      💯💪foreal..Canibus was naaasty on the mic..I think that was a dickhead move on LLs part,chopping him down when he was just getting started.

    • @UFOsAreRealArea51
      @UFOsAreRealArea51 4 роки тому

      Yeah, that no one heard of. You got to be a avid hip hop listener to know that cannibus track otherwise majority of America hasn't heard of it. Weak production.

    • @kan50805
      @kan50805 3 роки тому +2

      Eminem won off his name too

  • @judahmaccabee9148
    @judahmaccabee9148 4 роки тому +19

    I always thought that was dirty what LL did, still do.

  • @MrNeonKnights
    @MrNeonKnights 9 років тому +57

    Mef is high as fk lol

    • @smartyhardy8924
      @smartyhardy8924 7 років тому +8

      MrNeonKnights Back in the days, he always was 😃

    • @NaDadiga
      @NaDadiga Місяць тому

      *Meth*od Man.

    • @thugnme
      @thugnme Місяць тому

      So Red

  • @DerrickthePinecone
    @DerrickthePinecone 10 років тому +246

    LL LOST to Canibus, period. Canibus destroyed LL lyrically. KRS-One and anyone else that acts like LL can't be bodied just because he's a "cultural icon" is stupid. KRS should know better.

    • @DerrickthePinecone
      @DerrickthePinecone 10 років тому +24

      bee boo YES! It's people like you that definitely know what true hip-hop is, and what true lyricism is, and that's great. Most of these mainstream rappers are corporate bitches, without lyrical skill (not all--but many). I had a debate recently with a kid that was saying that Lil Wayne is the "greatest" and all of this garbage. I told him to go to listen to (as an example of true, classic hip-hop) Binary Star's "Masters of The Universe" album, and he still didn't get it. Probably didn't listen. I think that a lot of people are brainwashed, including a lot of the mainstreamers. I mean, imagine a beef between Lil Wayne and Canibus, or against Mos Def or Immortal Technique, or Tech Nine or even MF DOOM. Lil Wayne would get destroyed and it wouldn't even be close. Money, fame, accolades get thrown out the window; they have nothing to do with lyrical ability. Most true poets end up dying penniless anyway. Hell, even Mozart died penniless! It's about the love of art, and skill and talent goes far beyond the money, as you know.

    • @mauricerobinson3184
      @mauricerobinson3184 10 років тому +2

      Agreed but yet not because alot of ppl never heard da track L.L DONT LOOSE. It was bout two tracks after ripper strikes back. He killed canibus but it was almost overkill cause the battle had been over. On the other hand LL had been got raped, fucked and molested by kool mo dee with LETS GO. Mannn, how ppl forgot dat slaughter!!!

    • @skillkraft
      @skillkraft 10 років тому

      You have to see the whole thing, because later Kris is applauding Canibus for his Second round K.O. diss and basically go get yours and against nobody better than LL

    • @skillkraft
      @skillkraft 10 років тому +13

      bee boo
      Yea, I know Canibus lyrically killled LL, Unfortunately the masses don't look at lyricism but money and status. Even Kool Moe Dee says that in the whole version of this that Canibus was better lyrically during the battle.

    • @skillkraft
      @skillkraft 10 років тому +14

      ***** If you think KRS is wack your crazy. Some people don't like Kris, at times he get's preachy but to say he's wack is out landish.

  • @moonshine9964
    @moonshine9964 5 років тому +12

    LL exposed his ego and his insecurity. He's a fool for misunderstanding what was clearly someone showing love and respect. Maybe that's why everyone hates him.

  • @ddmonteiro
    @ddmonteiro 15 років тому +7

    LL is a MC Veteran in this game!
    24 years...and running!

  • @hilltop530
    @hilltop530 14 років тому +10

    Man... LL got owned in this battle. He was simply outclassed. BiS got em. All there is to it.

  • @byrdman82
    @byrdman82 7 років тому +51

    KRS One's reaction to this was priceless and I can understand his point. However I think LL was just being arrogant

    • @Nilz-ie8li
      @Nilz-ie8li 2 роки тому +5

      Every great MC is arrogant. It comes with the sport

    • @Nilz-ie8li
      @Nilz-ie8li 2 роки тому

      @Nev Reid of course they are. You'll find examples in many verses

    • @younglove3362
      @younglove3362 Рік тому

      KRS1 says Ll is the goat 🐐. Of course he's going to be bias 🙄

  • @dokddog
    @dokddog 10 років тому +36

    Wow. I never knew how this beef started. That was the dumbest thing ever. Borrowing the mike should have been a compliment. I guess LL felt he was at the end of the career and wasnt ready to pass the torch. LOL

  • @RikoRey92
    @RikoRey92 2 роки тому +152

    Canibus absolutely FLAMED LL so bad that the industry had to blackball him to keep LL safe 😂😂

    • @rahshaddawson4659
      @rahshaddawson4659 Рік тому +39

      You must not have heard the ripper is back LOL. LL went super sayian

    • @queennefertiti35
      @queennefertiti35 Рік тому +5

      You're a dulu

    • @Canadian-hm4xm
      @Canadian-hm4xm Рік тому +16

      Ripper Strikes Back answered Canibus

    • @tmedocianis
      @tmedocianis Рік тому +7

      Look at Cornypus, he can't walk down his own street! LOL!

    • @tmedocianis
      @tmedocianis Рік тому +10

      It was NO blackball. When you get roasted like LL roasted him, it's over. Think Eminem and MGK only deadlier.

  • @BSrhaadw
    @BSrhaadw 14 років тому +6

    canibus is a lyrical madman

  • @coolwaterz
    @coolwaterz 10 років тому +47

    the curse of the battle rapper. canibus was quite possibly the best lyricist to ever get a taste of the mainstream. but that just couldn't translate into an actual album. the guy murdered freestyles over awesome beats but struggled when it came to an actual full length album of content and good production. wyclef's production was garbage which didn't help. always wonder what could have been with canibus if he had the right production. oh yeah, he destroyed LL Cool J and LL made sure NYC radio blacklisted him.

    • @publicenemynumberone8297
      @publicenemynumberone8297 9 років тому +7

      Mic club the curriculum and Rip the Jacker had great production.

    • @anthonyanderson9303
      @anthonyanderson9303 9 років тому +1

      coolwaterz Agreed. He was great in group settings tho, like the Horsemen projects.

    • @hiddenking4840
      @hiddenking4840 5 років тому +1

      coolwaterz he was out of this world in lyrical assault ...but wasn't tops in making songs and concepts ....think his career could have been more successful still ...his first album was pretty good....

    • @Ghostfacekillah1
      @Ghostfacekillah1 3 роки тому +1

      Yea idk how wyclef went from producing fugees albums to the canibus album. At least he got stoupe on jack the ripper

    • @tc98826
      @tc98826 5 місяців тому

      Rip the Jacker is very underrated

  • @raiderscorpio5629
    @raiderscorpio5629 4 роки тому +20

    KRS reaction always has me dying lmao

  • @Guhnz_N_Butter
    @Guhnz_N_Butter 3 роки тому +5

    3:25. The best kind of haircuts making your ass wanna go to sleep. 😴

  • @Rromantiq
    @Rromantiq 9 років тому +132

    LL only won the war due to it being a popularity contest. Can-I-Bus wasn't bad but it doesn't compare to how hard Bis went in on him in 2nd Round KO. To be honest, LL could have came out with a much worse diss than Can-I-Bus and still would have won because people just wanted to hear him respond. Bis was one of best in the game lyrically, producers he had were shit but the guy was on another level about science, math, history ect. and mixing all of that into his songs, never talked about bitches and cars and shit and just went under the radar especially after his beef with Eminem. Bis still has a lot of great songs

    • @Lemon_Oppy
      @Lemon_Oppy 6 років тому +5

      RomanceHD I mean you’re right, but Ripper Strikes Back went pretty hard though

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 6 років тому +9

      Yet nobody bought or supported Canubus albums/career.. Where are all the "street" cats that support canibus?.. Guess all they can do is post negative comments about LL on the internet instead of supporting canibus as a fan. As lyrical as Canibus was, he destroyed his own career and if anything he should thank LL for putting Canibus in the spotlight like that.. Canibus couldn't hold on to that 15 min of fame lol

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 6 років тому +1

      LOL says the guy picking fights over the internet.. Remember, YOU insulted me first because YOU couldn't handle a comment i made about Canibus.. So YOU felt YOU had to defend Canibus from ME.. and then YOU did EXACTLY what I said you would do.. resort to insults because YOU have not facts to back YOU up.. and once again your response will be nothing but insults because you Lack the ability and knowledge to do otherwise.. Cuz in real life your to afraid to talk to ppl like that.. Insecure ppl insult others over the net.. please, continue to show your cowardice and insecurities..

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 6 років тому

      LOL thats all you can say? crying and a nerd? I guess thats just how it goes being a canibus fan.. Nothing factual to do on.. While LL fans are intellectual.. Please prove me right, by giving me MORE insults ;).. and what does that say about you? insulting a NERD over the internet? lol

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 6 років тому

      lol who is everybody? I dont know you or the multiple you's there are.. But here is something for sure.. I"ve exposed you as the troll that you are.. see facts do that.. So now that I have won, and proven my point, I can sail in the sunset lol.. Cuz thats what I do.. I prove internet trolls wrong with facts.. I've taught you something these last couple of days and any ignorant also reading, wether you accept it or not.. I win because you learned form me.. cuz I dont speak bunk.. lol and now that I have won, I'm out, never to respond to your pointless gibberish ever again.. Any body else want to have an adult conversation based on facts and intelligent opinions, i'm all ears though..

  • @TheLegacy125
    @TheLegacy125 10 років тому +36

    LL got killed by Canibus period

    • @MusicKur3
      @MusicKur3 10 років тому +4

      are u fuckin serious....

    • @TheLegacy125
      @TheLegacy125 10 років тому +5

      ***** are you seriously questioning that

    • @MusicKur3
      @MusicKur3 10 років тому +1

      TheLegacy125 Yes i am, no one can toch ll cool j. specially not a nigga named canibus...

    • @TheLegacy125
      @TheLegacy125 10 років тому +2

      ***** you dont know hip hop then

    • @MusicKur3
      @MusicKur3 10 років тому +2

      pretty sure i do

  • @markhill4366
    @markhill4366 8 років тому +11

    Man LL took an L om this shit real talk

  • @colinbiz
    @colinbiz 8 років тому +23

    Canibus beat LL fair and square.

    • @lexxdiamondz
      @lexxdiamondz 4 роки тому +4

      Only bummy people believe this..

    • @YaoEspirito
      @YaoEspirito 4 роки тому +1

      Facts.

    • @thnzxc
      @thnzxc 3 роки тому +1

      @@lexxdiamondz for real, I don't know one person I came up with that even remembers Canibus.

    • @alohaalt3543
      @alohaalt3543 2 роки тому

      @@thnzxc i do listen to him just rn. Hes illest mc i heards. Better than k rhino better than MF DOOM and defo better than LL cool l. Canibus was never been about fame over his shit so fame simply isnt an argument.

  • @ether6136
    @ether6136 10 років тому +9

    Redman was so high in this clip lol

  • @chilled99
    @chilled99 6 років тому +4

    Small man LL - spent his whole verse doing a rebuttal to a young MC who changed his lyrics on request in the first place

  • @Shenaniganator101
    @Shenaniganator101 4 роки тому +14

    The entire beef was LL overreacting
    Then canibus destroying LL
    Even thou Canibus did nothing wrong initially

  • @song4night
    @song4night 10 років тому +44

    if any1nose,Krs1nose

    • @Pingaheimer
      @Pingaheimer 9 років тому +9

      yeah, biggest fucking nose in history.

    • @song4night
      @song4night 9 років тому +2

      Juanito Alimaña you don't have to insult krs1

    • @Pingaheimer
      @Pingaheimer 9 років тому +3

      song4night
      how is that an insult? Look at the damn thing, looks like a mattress. Just pointing out a fact.

    • @song4night
      @song4night 9 років тому

      Juanito Alimaña a matress? so sleep on it.He breathe,you sneeze on it.weeze on it with asthma,then the pump,maybe dump on it,jump on it,get messy like shit,he legit,who you with?

    • @Pingaheimer
      @Pingaheimer 9 років тому +2

      i'm with canibus. KRS ain't shit to me.

  • @Pingaheimer
    @Pingaheimer 11 років тому +135

    Regardless of how much money ll has, he'll never be on canibus' level, lyrically or intellectually.

    • @MobKnowledge
      @MobKnowledge 10 років тому +23

      Doesn't matter. LL Cool J did more for the hip hop culture with his first album (released when he was a teenager, mind you) than Canibus did in his entire career. Skills and intellect are useless if you can't use them to do anything.

    • @westy229
      @westy229 10 років тому +4

      ***** I strongly disagree with what you said but at least you didn't call him feminem or slim anus or anything retarded like that.

    • @sowtpaw734
      @sowtpaw734 10 років тому

      MobKnowledge exactly

    • @waynenee1
      @waynenee1 6 років тому

      Thats right !

    • @ArdiGashilifts
      @ArdiGashilifts 6 років тому

      Music Taste Good 4 y latter but if ur saying eminem isn't a lord lyrcist you dumb asf

  • @Mr9x19mm
    @Mr9x19mm 10 років тому +27

    @2:56"You lucky to be on the recurrrrrrrrrrrrd." -KRS ONE

  • @SEEtheREPLAY
    @SEEtheREPLAY 4 роки тому +1

    Sucks that no one stood up for cannabis he still one of my top favorite rappers from the 90s.

  • @anthonyanderson9303
    @anthonyanderson9303 9 років тому +41

    How is this even a debate? Everybody knows LL was wrong for this whole incident and Canibus killed him with 2nd round KO. But of course, this was the first beef that made me realize that it really isn't about who won what, it's about who's the most popular. Nobody how bad Canibus dusted him off on record, it didn't matter cuz it's not as if it was gonna stop LL from selling records. That's why rap beef is pointless anymore. If you're a mainstream artist, your fans are still gonna rock with you anyway. Look Jay. Even after Nas "won" the beef, Jay was still as popular as ever so it's not like it hurt him in any kind of way.

    • @trizzmatic413
      @trizzmatic413 9 років тому

      Exactly! I peeped the game too. Glad I ain't the only one!

    • @yugang08
      @yugang08 8 років тому +1

      +Anthony Anderson the nelly vs krs one battle is an example of what you're talking about as well

    • @yugang08
      @yugang08 8 років тому +10

      +TAUREAN AMMONS the only good line ll made was the 99% of your fans don't exist. thats literally it. 1 dope line doesn't mean the whole diss was dope lol

    • @makavelithelegend5738
      @makavelithelegend5738 8 років тому +4

      it did make jay z loose a bit of credibility as a lyricist. but just a bit.

    • @protectedsouls415
      @protectedsouls415 7 років тому +4

      LL's whole diss was tight. Canibus has better flow, perhaps more technical rhymes etc. but that isn't be-all,end-all. some of yall love to exaggerate

  • @RebelThoughts82
    @RebelThoughts82 8 років тому +11

    U lucky to be on the record!!!

  • @dabaryammalak2193
    @dabaryammalak2193 8 років тому +10

    I don't care what krs say LL took the mike on your on your arm line too personal. but then again, he probably needed a beef to keep his status as a battle emcee. he should've changed the lyrics when canibus agreed, that was a bitch move! damn! I wouldn't wanna do a colab with LL if me idolizing him is an offense.

  • @MacLethal
    @MacLethal 4 місяці тому +2

    Let's keep it 100. LL is a diva for this. It's a damn tattoo, calm down.

  • @MontUHURU_Mimia777
    @MontUHURU_Mimia777 11 років тому +4

    "YOU LUCKY TO BE ON THE RECORRRD!"

  • @advancedtheories1332
    @advancedtheories1332 7 років тому +37

    Is it just me or does KRS 1 look kinda like whoppie Goldberg? I Respect the legend tho

    • @darrylbrumfield7659
      @darrylbrumfield7659 7 років тому +1

      Lol I guarantee your white. Only you guys worry about black guys looks and say slick racist shit on the slide

    • @advancedtheories1332
      @advancedtheories1332 7 років тому +2

      Darryl Brumfield I've been trolled before nice try. But ya I'm white and how's that racist?

    • @nduclet351
      @nduclet351 7 років тому +2

      Darryl Brumfield who the fuck u kidding black dudes get on people's looks before anything if u ain't on point they'll roast u

    • @advancedtheories1332
      @advancedtheories1332 7 років тому +1

      N Diddy89 just saw this post. Have fun at the next party you go to sensitive drag queen. You trying to roast me and represent your gated community that will never get on the map I guess. Keep reppin' you badass keyboard warrior you!

    • @whayes8084
      @whayes8084 7 років тому

      Cade Kennedy worse

  • @ethanike
    @ethanike 12 років тому +7

    2:38 Does someone see a new KRS-One meme? "You lucky to be on the reckaaaaaaad"

  • @trizzmatic413
    @trizzmatic413 9 років тому +82

    Lyrically, LL wasn't as potent as Canibus. 2nd Round Knock Out was harder than any of LL's diss tracks, real talk. Not dissing, cause L one of the reasons I got into Hiphop at like 5 or 6 yrs old 86- '87. But Canibus came for the jugular like Nas did on Ether. 'Bus was more on that Wu, Nas vibe at the time (in his own way), so I was rockin more with his style, lyricism & sound, than LL's. Personally, I felt that L lyrically tried to slap 'Bus around, but didn't realize he was lyrically shot already. just my point of view of this rap beef. Peace, #KeepRealHipHopAlive

    • @trizzmatic413
      @trizzmatic413 9 років тому +3

      Excuse the typos, you get the point. One,

    • @zsivaz
      @zsivaz 9 років тому +5

      +Trizzmatic LLCOOLJ is a better lyricist than Canibus. Rock the bells is a more outstanding performance than Canibus's whole discography. Nvm I need Love, I'm Bad etc. Canibus is highly overrated. And for the record I rate "to the break of dawn" as a slightly better diss track than 2nd round ko

    • @prentisdavis9781
      @prentisdavis9781 8 років тому +11

      +zsivaz Sir, lets not confuse sells with skills. Truth is that LL had to stay relevant. But... thats rap. I see nothing wrong with LL being a bully. That shit was great for rap at the time. But for the record... Bis snatched the mic off LL's arm and handed it to him PERIOD

    • @zsivaz
      @zsivaz 8 років тому +1

      Rock the bells >>>>> Canibus Career

    • @prentisdavis9781
      @prentisdavis9781 8 років тому +2

      zsivaz True. Bis didn't have a chance or a fair shake against Uncle L.

  • @oohok9179
    @oohok9179 Рік тому +1

    K.R.S One said it Best. The mic on LL arm isnt even duplicated in rap history

  • @kozmeetorez
    @kozmeetorez 10 років тому +14

    Meth was so blowed

  • @Chris-ts8ih
    @Chris-ts8ih 8 років тому +70

    Cananbis won to me.

    • @donnelladams6284
      @donnelladams6284 6 років тому +2

      where is his career at Cannibus lost get over it

    • @emmanuelmckoy5899
      @emmanuelmckoy5899 5 років тому +7

      @@donnelladams6284 it's about lyrics not career dumbass

    • @brandonmatthews4934
      @brandonmatthews4934 3 роки тому

      @@emmanuelmckoy5899 when Ll said “look over your shoulder that’s where you’re headed” 😂😂😂 He told no lie

    • @MrLionelg33
      @MrLionelg33 2 місяці тому

      ​@@donnelladams6284 but canibus ain't acting coonery and WHITE like ll cool j is.

  • @jacquesdelyons3516
    @jacquesdelyons3516 4 роки тому +3

    Canibus is the true genius.

  • @dlxinfinite7098
    @dlxinfinite7098 5 років тому +5

    LL is a legendary beast, but Canibus laid down one of the Top 5 diss records of all time...2nd Round is up there with Either, No Vaseline, the Takeover and south Bronx

  • @skepchica
    @skepchica 3 роки тому +2

    "You don't come outyo face. You dont borrow nothin..." 🤣🤣💀

    • @gatzu8599
      @gatzu8599 3 роки тому

      Dumb

    • @gatzu8599
      @gatzu8599 3 роки тому

      @@skepchica no. Can you enlighten me

    • @skepchica
      @skepchica 3 роки тому

      @@gatzu8599 In any part of the entertainment business the #1 rule is you respect the vet. You're there to learn and hopefully learn something. Cannibus needed his audience. You know how many vets never bother to bring anyone up? Everyone in entertainment is basically out for themselves-- so here is LL, who like him or not, personally I dont) putting this kid on, and he's "borrowing" something?? Gtfo 🤣🤣 He might have made a rookie mistake, but he kilt his career. That's why KRS face popped like that, if you know, you know.

    • @gatzu8599
      @gatzu8599 3 роки тому

      @@skepchica wth happend to my reply?

    • @skepchica
      @skepchica 3 роки тому

      @@gatzu8599 I dunno. 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @arexyouxepicxenough
    @arexyouxepicxenough 12 років тому +5

    Canibus, chino xl, k-rino and slaughterhouse are the most lyrical cats out there now.

  • @SurgeCess
    @SurgeCess 2 роки тому +7

    Canibus won the battle, LL won the war.

  • @danieldevito6380
    @danieldevito6380 Рік тому +8

    It's CRAZY how a simple question about a tattoo completely destroyed Canibus' career before it even started lol

  • @2guub7
    @2guub7 11 років тому +4

    "Aayoo I wanna spit my barz!" - Canibus just wanted to spit his bars since the beginning.

  • @highestpoint945
    @highestpoint945 9 років тому +2

    Lmaoooo @ the Redman and Methodman interviews. They're both so fucking high.

  • @Maal7432
    @Maal7432 8 років тому +46

    Canibus won the battle, IMO.

    • @ThumbsUpMike
      @ThumbsUpMike 8 років тому +2

      Yeah Canibus won a lyrical "on the street" level
      But LL Cool J won the battle overall within the industry cuz he made all the right moves, with his iconic status, he more so used the battle more as a marketing strategy
      Canibus didn't make any moves at all with this battle, he just made an amazing diss record as a response and then nothing after that, his career plateaued while LL kept his moving

    • @Maal7432
      @Maal7432 8 років тому +2

      +Mike DeSimone Very true. I guess LL won the war then.

    • @MaadAzzGang
      @MaadAzzGang 7 років тому

      +Mike Illmatic
      True. LL obviously had Def Jam behind him too. Even had Def Jam doin a contest at the time of the song on Hot 97 and they shut down anybody who voted Canibus won. Even Angie Martinez admited this.
      If they did that with a petty thing like that then they obviously did for bigger things.
      Thats the thing when you have a corporation behind you.
      I love & respect LL too, but he was foul in that situation.

    • @averyt6521
      @averyt6521 7 років тому

      jmaal2345 LL to me

    • @hiddenking4840
      @hiddenking4840 5 років тому

      Canibus was a different caliber of battle rapper...L is a legend but bis was super sharp...he took a L on that one

  • @kl33tus
    @kl33tus 13 років тому +4

    "YOU LUCKY TO BE ON THE RECKIDDDDD" lmao

  • @gmn545
    @gmn545 13 років тому +4

    When I think back to "Bronx keeps creatin' it, and Queens keeps on fakin' it", it shocks me that KRS-One is calling LL (a Queens rapper) an icon of Hip Hop culture.

  • @kamilandre
    @kamilandre 16 років тому +5

    The part that they left out was WHY LL was pissed that Canibus wanted to "borrow" the mic on his arm. When Canibus first met LL, he said he wanted a tattoo just like LL's. LL kept telling him that he should get his own original tattoo but Canibus insisted that he wanted one just like LL's. So when Canibus said that line in the song, LL was like "man, this kid is gettin on my nerves." That was corny on Canibus' part. He seemed like he was pretty groundbreaking, not one to byte anyone's style.

  • @NikCarterNYC
    @NikCarterNYC 13 років тому +2

    " YOU LUCKY TA BE ON DA REKIIIID"! One love KRS, I love that brother!

  • @HonestAdonis2
    @HonestAdonis2 14 днів тому +1

    "You lucky to be on the record". Classic

  • @klerktrent6226
    @klerktrent6226 3 роки тому +11

    I was 20-21. We were Pro Canibus, but had to admit that was a cold verse LL spit "You don't wanna borrow that/ you wanna idolize/ and you don't wanna make me mad nigga you wanna socialize" 🤣🤣
    Then followed it up with pure heat.
    "And I'm daring every MC in the game/ to play themselves outta position and mentioned my name/ LL". Damn! 🔥🔥

  • @jswiggle55
    @jswiggle55 8 років тому +38

    Canibus asked that man to borrow his mic. How else would you record without one? It seems like flattery to me as he is directly referring to LL as a keeper of the mic. Canibus on the track seemed like a mutual desire for both as it was LL album and he asked bus to be there and canibus obviously wanted to be there as he changed his verse to keep it that way(he did have a choice, even tho LL had leverage), which also displays the respect he had for him. I wonder tho what LL's original verse for that track was, bc the only one I heard is a blatant comeback to canibus verse, which wasn't a diss imo, LL just got butthurt for some reason. Why else would you even go about demanding another mc to change their verse, especially one that will add to your album? That's disrespectful in the first place and censorship at it's finest.

    • @jswiggle55
      @jswiggle55 8 років тому +9

      This also makes me wonder why you would get a mic tatted on your arm if you gonna be such a bitch about what other people say on one? You asked for canibus talent on it, and then get mad when you hear what canibus says on it. In the end it wasn't canibus freely expressing canibus, it was canibus being stifled and bullied by a "legend" in the rap game.

    • @joyandpeacefullaughter5307
      @joyandpeacefullaughter5307 3 роки тому +4

      He got hurt because he saw the lyrics and saw Canibus's own was better. Better to bully the newcomer into changing his lyrics and turn his own into a diss track to seem superior.
      People underestimate how older rappers can be jealous of the new ones. Recently Snoop Dogg tried to disguise his racism for Eminem but it was plain to see.
      Even KRS one spoke out of jealousy in this clip.

    • @edwinbetancourt3958
      @edwinbetancourt3958 3 роки тому +1

      It was a smart business move for LL. It made a buzz and generated a new popping situation for him that would resonate well with hip hop lovers of the moment. He got everything out of it that he could.

  • @gloriempaka9474
    @gloriempaka9474 10 років тому +13

    02:35 hahah that face

  • @goodvibestv707
    @goodvibestv707 Рік тому +2

    The Ripper strike back is still one of the Greatest HH Diss tracks of all times, even though people barley talking about that track at all, cause 2nd round Knockout Went in on LL Cool J in different levels. That track is a beast, but since LL Cool J got a Better career, and Canibus was just coming up in the game, He won the War. And Canibus Career wasn't the same after that.

  • @austinysla6331
    @austinysla6331 Рік тому +2

    KRS ONEs facial reaction always gets me. Lol

  • @4limits
    @4limits 15 років тому +9

    You can say what you want, but KRS-1 is one of the greatest rappers of all-time.

  • @mikeelp23
    @mikeelp23 9 років тому +3

    ".....and kids, this is how wars start"

  • @chester9435
    @chester9435 13 років тому +5

    LL COOL J IS THE DEFINITION OF THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!

    • @seankelly4594
      @seankelly4594 3 роки тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @hebrew26commandmentspower55
    @hebrew26commandmentspower55 7 років тому +2

    Canibus : " Tune into Channel notepad .... Tune into Channel notepad .... Tune into Channel notepaaaadddddd ! " - Channel Zero

  • @L1am21
    @L1am21 10 років тому +2

    Krs one so dope on the mic then in interviews always lets us down.

  • @kws2534
    @kws2534 11 років тому +3

    I love KRS' reaction.
    You lucky just to be on the record!!

  • @Eziokilla9595
    @Eziokilla9595 13 років тому +3

    In terms of beef---Canibus won.
    In terms of overall artistry and longevity---Ll Cool J

  • @DefSquadFan
    @DefSquadFan 8 років тому +20

    Second round knockout was all facts just like Takeover. Canibus breaks down the whole beef in the first twenty five words of the song. Reminds me jay breaking down nas album by album....so lyrically sound.

    • @colinbiz
      @colinbiz 8 років тому +3

      that's a fact

    • @davidjones6071
      @davidjones6071 8 років тому +9

      Still doesn't change the fact that ripper strikes back and ether are far superior.

    • @That_KidShady
      @That_KidShady 7 років тому +2

      Sea Pea it was like the takeover and ether together lol

    • @THEmajnik
      @THEmajnik 5 років тому +4

      @@davidjones6071 Haha what? Ripper strikes back is better than second round ko? Stop smoking crack man. RSB was just LL sreaming to make this sound fire. Bis killed him with 2nd round and burried with Rip the jacker.

    • @THEmajnik
      @THEmajnik 4 роки тому +2

      @Patrick Thomas add more exclamation marks, maybe it will make your comment relevant

  • @evelynlester6884
    @evelynlester6884 Рік тому +2

    You lucky to be on the record.😂

  • @goodguyb
    @goodguyb 11 років тому +2

    ur completly underating LL, LL is a legend and one of the best technicial rappers and he got do great songs too

  • @randyh.7782
    @randyh.7782 8 років тому +41

    Now lets get back to this mic on my arm
    If it ever left my side it'll transform into a timebomb
    You don't wanna borrow that
    You wanna idolize
    And you don't wanna make me mad
    You wanna socialize

    • @deathrager2404
      @deathrager2404 5 років тому

      @Mike Aries randy is a braindead mainstream fan.
      i mean, ll cant even come up with something better that rhymes with idolize instead of socialize? and this is a cultural icon? lol

    • @darrylwilson9718
      @darrylwilson9718 4 роки тому +2

      Wtf yall talking about ?that rhyme is fire

    • @lonniesharpe9720
      @lonniesharpe9720 3 роки тому

      Exactly. Shit likely went over his head.

  • @glory2god4infinity63
    @glory2god4infinity63 2 роки тому +9

    Canibus is a far more superior mc than LL Cool j

  • @ceedee7647
    @ceedee7647 4 роки тому +3

    Can i bus 2nd Round Knockout 🥊 is hands down 1 of the Greatest Diss Records of All Time & he beat LL

  • @LT2AD
    @LT2AD 12 років тому +1

    What do these guys mean saying canibus' career is done? Everything do come to an end but as for his entiiiiire career as a LYRICIST... he's still the illest! Ain't nobody can take that from him! If not the illest, still one of the illest! He's a legend nad we gotta we gotta give what's long been due to him. RESPECT!

  • @tracifisher475
    @tracifisher475 5 місяців тому +2

    KRS’s reaction is crazy on this.

  • @thelovejones2008
    @thelovejones2008 10 років тому +4

    these youngins don't know hip hop like the old heads.

  • @AMSteez
    @AMSteez 7 років тому +3

    You lucky to be on the Recordddd - KRS One haha cx

  • @DaSkarekrow
    @DaSkarekrow 5 років тому +3

    Walking with a Panther was so legit.... But I'm thankful that LL dissed Canibus, because I remember looking into more of Canibus and now I enjoy Canibus and no way do I think LL won.... fk, I still think Kool Moe Dee won lol against LL

  • @Drea1239232
    @Drea1239232 3 місяці тому +1

    Every time I hear about this , it makes me look at LL different.

  • @increadible8tyfo
    @increadible8tyfo 12 років тому +2

    Meth lil laugh had me dyin

  • @theironhorse8227
    @theironhorse8227 8 років тому +40

    LL weak as fuck for that. Also Canibus is a far better lyricist than LL.

    • @theironhorse8227
      @theironhorse8227 8 років тому +10

      Sifiso Mahlangu WHAT!? This is Hip Hop. it's all about your lyrics. If Canibus didn't have lyrics, LL wouldn't put him on the track 4321.

    • @-Trauma.
      @-Trauma. 7 років тому

      Sifiso Mahlangu stop smoking crack, thats why the game is all fucked up now.

    • @johnjr578
      @johnjr578 6 років тому

      The IronHorse Bus wasn't even disrespecting him LL was just looking for beef and then made him change his verse

  • @sunrise242
    @sunrise242 10 років тому +3

    How do you take that as anything other than a compliment, LL?! Total bullshit beef here.

  • @advancedtheories1332
    @advancedtheories1332 7 років тому +7

    You lucky to be on the receeeeed!

    • @-Trauma.
      @-Trauma. 7 років тому +1

      Cade Kennedy man, but that still was some bitch ass shit to do lol

    • @advancedtheories1332
      @advancedtheories1332 7 років тому

      KageTrauma who cannibus

    • @-Trauma.
      @-Trauma. 7 років тому

      Cade Kennedy of course not nigga, LL. lol I mean damn if it bothered him so much he could have at least battled the nigga for real in the booth, and make it a hidden track on the album...thats what I wlda done.

    • @advancedtheories1332
      @advancedtheories1332 7 років тому

      KageTrauma u know what I was quoting. And I'm white and I'm cool with being called But ya. Anyway, I didn't hear anything. Was it on 4321?

    • @-Trauma.
      @-Trauma. 7 років тому

      Cade Kennedy I know you was quoting him lol this old as shit man. And I was saying LL was on some bitch shit lol.

  • @RockytheBear
    @RockytheBear 11 років тому +1

    That's what makes the KRS One clip so dope...it's like we're learning it as he's learning it, lol.

  • @fazecoomsock
    @fazecoomsock Рік тому +2

    Is Keith david doing the narrations?

  • @drEAmzZzza
    @drEAmzZzza 8 років тому +28

    canibus the goat lol he destroyed him. nobody can write wat bis can

    • @andyfarm6169
      @andyfarm6169 8 років тому +1

      +Immortal Technique can rock the MIC MY MAN

    • @edsoncontreras2806
      @edsoncontreras2806 8 років тому +1

      +mobb s i was bummed when dizaster beat cannib.

    • @chrisb5813
      @chrisb5813 8 років тому +1

      +andy farm technique isnt as lyrical tho

    • @andyfarm6169
      @andyfarm6169 8 років тому

      Chris B canibus win f LL FUNK JAM LOL

    • @xSlashx69
      @xSlashx69 8 років тому

      andy farm god forgive him

  • @StephenHandley
    @StephenHandley 10 років тому +3

    U LUCKY 2 B ON TEH REKKID

  • @song4night
    @song4night 10 років тому +12

    man Krs1 nose is huge!!! kinda like idi Amin nose

    • @song4night
      @song4night 10 років тому

      Danny Fernandez he nose?

    • @imblessedso
      @imblessedso 10 років тому +7

      " I don't compare to you. Look at my nose, I even take in more air than you.
      I'm more aware than you, I spit it, I built this hip-hop matrix then programmed you in it!" - Krs One

    • @song4night
      @song4night 10 років тому

      imblessedso exactly...that's why I say he knows

    • @song4night
      @song4night 10 років тому

      he knows a lot

    • @song4night
      @song4night 10 років тому

      yall gone get this work

  • @bigmete21
    @bigmete21 9 місяців тому +1

    Krs one had me weak 🤣

  • @captaintrechabomb982
    @captaintrechabomb982 3 роки тому +1

    "I never got a penny off that Beef DVD, you mean all that money went to QD3?"
    -Canibus 2010