The “synthesized big watermelon” translation given by Google Translate is not wrong. 合成 means both synthesize and synthesized, and without the context it’s impossible to tell; in this case the correct translation would be “synthesizing big watermelons”. Rendering 合成 as “merge” is fine but not a literal translation; the word 合成 is a chemical term not in everyday use, so “synthesize” is appropriate.
Your channel feels like one that should be big and old, if that makes sense? Like this is the quality I'd expect from an experienced, popular person not a new guy with 10 videos.
This game is about some *extremely* deep mathematics: epidemiology and dynamical systems. Just because you didn’t throw PDEs on the screen doesn’t mean they weren’t there in the background.
It's just that it's not about the game itself but about the community around it. This is the part of the comment that would get deeper into the social sciences and humanities... if I knew enough about the matter.
I remember, several years before Suika Game was a thing, I played a game with the same general concept...that was called "Couch 2048" and used the 2048 numbers on the circles instead of fruits. (It wasn't exactly the same; the walls were much shallower, which changed the gameplay significantly, but it still makes the whole situation much more complicated...)
Oh man, I remember playing a lot of mindless 2048 back in the day. I discovered the corner strat pretty early on. It does inevitably get tricky with the very large numbers... although I guess it's heavily luck-based by that point. I think a lot of people just didn't play the game long enough or get invested enough to find out about the corner strat. It was easy to pick up and seemed difficult to master, and that was enough.
one benefit of 2048 is that it's simple enough that it's easy to create variants. like there's ones with fibonacci numbers, you making the tiles to make the ai lose, tetris 2048, hexagonal 2048, four-dimensional 2048, and 2048 where merged tiles create holes. source: some years ago i played too many 2048 variants
as someone who speaks chinese, it made me happy to see your proficiency in chinese! Your pronunciation was quite good, and you corrected google translate and wikipedia very well!
My go to corner for 2048 was the bottom right one. Suika game I found first via a clone where you could upload images for the different balls instead of using fruit. 2048 too had clones where you could replace the numbers with images. So I usually played those clones with images from my fandoms/favourite characters lol.
yeah basically exactly the video i was thinking about wanting to exist, comparison to 2048, what the heck threes is, if suika game is a clone of something (i thought surely it was), and what that all means
I first encountered specifically the wesan version of this game, as a minigame inside of a web comic app. I am not sure if they were affiliated, but the graphics and jank were distinctive.
1024 is actually the first game of this kind I played many years ago! Only some time later I played 2048 and thought about it as "1024's clone" (the number is bigger, so I assumed 1024 to be the first and more natural, as 2^10 is a "round" number!), while... I never, ever heard about Threes until now! 🤣🤣 edit: ohhh... looks like I had to play some clone of 1024 or something.. I don't remember the name, but it was on Kongregate in flash player, many many years ago :D
12:10 the words he cheng means 'merge' but can also be 'synthesise'. you're right that Google translate ignored the word 'big', but that's a sort of exaggerating feature of Chinese that can often be ignored in daily speech. for example to say a hill is flat in English, you would say 'that hill IS flat'. however no native Chinese speaker goes around saying 'that hill IS flat' (那山是平的) unless they're a primary school teacher or something, they would say, directly translated, 'that hill very flat' (那山很平). children sometimes are taught to add an adjective to words as they learn, for example green grass vs just grass, big watermelon vs just watermelon. not to say that google translate is correct because it literally called the watermelons synthetic, but I would personally translate the game as 'Watermelon Merger', and leave out the part about them being big.
2048 absolutely isnt an easy game after 8192. At that point you dont have a lot of available space to make 2 of 8192 and combine them. It gets quite tricky quite fast. Also fixing the structure if you accidentally mess it up badly isnt easy.
9:08 see for anyone "online app you need to pay hosting if you want more than 2 people to play the game " and also the ui and elements use frameworks which are not paid, adverts are a good way to keep the game running as long the adverts dont ruin the experiance
My sister plays that original suika game on a flash archive and we take great pleasure in the jank. Kiwi physics, kiwi gear, and kiwi car are all our names for common glitches that we get excited about since the kiwis seem to be the jankiest fruit
frankly, this is the first i've heard of 2048, I've only played 2248, which is.... not really a math's game but masquerading as one, I think? You match as many tiles as you can, starting with at least two of one kind, and then the next in the series and the next and the next and they all add together. It's pretty great in my opinion. There's a 2048 knock off I've seen that's a mix of tetris and 2248, and I'm not a huge fan.... idk I feel like I'm missing something. Maybe it's because I'm on Android.
did you fix that thing where a fruit touches multiple things at once that it makes many more clones? code bullet had that problem and it made his fruits explode
So it seems you can compare apples and oranges after all. This is useful information.
One apple is exactly two oranges!
2048 being compared to tinder made me lol
the first time i have ever seen someone use lol correctly in a sentence
@@yonathanraviv1063LOL
@@yonathanraviv1063 maybe that's because lol's meaning has changed
@@yonathanraviv1063depends if ur using it as *laughing* out loud or *laugh* out loud.
The “synthesized big watermelon” translation given by Google Translate is not wrong. 合成 means both synthesize and synthesized, and without the context it’s impossible to tell; in this case the correct translation would be “synthesizing big watermelons”. Rendering 合成 as “merge” is fine but not a literal translation; the word 合成 is a chemical term not in everyday use, so “synthesize” is appropriate.
合成营
@@alexwang982 "synthesis camp"
Yeah, @@andresmartinezramos7513😂😂
Your channel feels like one that should be big and old, if that makes sense? Like this is the quality I'd expect from an experienced, popular person not a new guy with 10 videos.
it has jan Misali energy if that makes sense
@@goodguyamr6996this makes 100% sense and is also incomprehensible to anyone who doesn't know jan Misali
You should make more video essays, this was a lot of fun!
The ads on 2048 might just be there to offset the cost of hosting a website
This game is about some *extremely* deep mathematics: epidemiology and dynamical systems. Just because you didn’t throw PDEs on the screen doesn’t mean they weren’t there in the background.
It's just that it's not about the game itself but about the community around it.
This is the part of the comment that would get deeper into the social sciences and humanities... if I knew enough about the matter.
Came here to learn about math and now have extensive knowledge of tile matching game drama lore
Always good to see Threes getting some love online
I remember, several years before Suika Game was a thing, I played a game with the same general concept...that was called "Couch 2048" and used the 2048 numbers on the circles instead of fruits. (It wasn't exactly the same; the walls were much shallower, which changed the gameplay significantly, but it still makes the whole situation much more complicated...)
YEAH I loved couch 2048
Never actually played the original lol I was a bit too young for its heyday
Oh man, I remember playing a lot of mindless 2048 back in the day. I discovered the corner strat pretty early on. It does inevitably get tricky with the very large numbers... although I guess it's heavily luck-based by that point.
I think a lot of people just didn't play the game long enough or get invested enough to find out about the corner strat. It was easy to pick up and seemed difficult to master, and that was enough.
one benefit of 2048 is that it's simple enough that it's easy to create variants. like there's ones with fibonacci numbers, you making the tiles to make the ai lose, tetris 2048, hexagonal 2048, four-dimensional 2048, and 2048 where merged tiles create holes.
source: some years ago i played too many 2048 variants
I love these kinds of games but they put me to sleep like some kind of digital tranquilizer. It's scary, like electronically induced narcolepsy.
Glad to see Threes getting its due here... seen too many descriptions of Suika Game that trace the idea back to 2048 and don't go any further...
10:36 Woah, I've never realised that. You just opened my third eye
That caught me off guard as well XD
as someone who speaks chinese, it made me happy to see your proficiency in chinese! Your pronunciation was quite good, and you corrected google translate and wikipedia very well!
Never knew threes was the original, good thing you brought to my attention. I love that game but I suck at it
Didn't expect this game to be covered here lol. Also, TIL threes and I'm one of those that got addicted to 2048 and the clones.
yo this was a very cool combination of game analysis and math! you should do more stuff like this because it is neat.
My go to corner for 2048 was the bottom right one. Suika game I found first via a clone where you could upload images for the different balls instead of using fruit. 2048 too had clones where you could replace the numbers with images. So I usually played those clones with images from my fandoms/favourite characters lol.
Yeah so Suika Game WAS overthrown by a clone. I’m looking at you, Watermelon game.
Merge Fellas is totally original though lmao I love it so much
Fascinating video about binary counting. And nothing else at all.
yeah basically exactly the video i was thinking about wanting to exist, comparison to 2048, what the heck threes is, if suika game is a clone of something (i thought surely it was), and what that all means
11:47 your Chinese pronunciation is spot-on, vrry good job
I accidentally found this channel through cursed units and from watching this as a second vid I can tell ur other vids are great
When I saw Suika, I immediately thought of Couch 2048, which is 2048 but with physics, on a couch.
Its impressive you have that youtube cadence even if you just post mathematics and maths-adjacent concepts. Makes the whole thing much more engaging
I first encountered specifically the wesan version of this game, as a minigame inside of a web comic app. I am not sure if they were affiliated, but the graphics and jank were distinctive.
I made 2048 as practice too.
Suika game also shows packing efficiency.
合成 can mean "synthesis" (in the context of chemistry) but also "crafting" and "merging" (both in the context of games).
I played enough 2048 back in the day to immediately think, when I saw this game: "That looks like 2048 with fruits!"
ha the structure of this was fun, nice vid
the way you got distracted while making the video reminds me of me
Last time i downloaded 2048 i was like: "i need something mindless to occupy my time"
Fun video! Although a bit aimless, but still fun
1024 is actually the first game of this kind I played many years ago! Only some time later I played 2048 and thought about it as "1024's clone" (the number is bigger, so I assumed 1024 to be the first and more natural, as 2^10 is a "round" number!), while... I never, ever heard about Threes until now! 🤣🤣
edit: ohhh... looks like I had to play some clone of 1024 or something.. I don't remember the name, but it was on Kongregate in flash player, many many years ago :D
12:10 the words he cheng means 'merge' but can also be 'synthesise'. you're right that Google translate ignored the word 'big', but that's a sort of exaggerating feature of Chinese that can often be ignored in daily speech. for example to say a hill is flat in English, you would say 'that hill IS flat'. however no native Chinese speaker goes around saying 'that hill IS flat' (那山是平的) unless they're a primary school teacher or something, they would say, directly translated, 'that hill very flat' (那山很平). children sometimes are taught to add an adjective to words as they learn, for example green grass vs just grass, big watermelon vs just watermelon. not to say that google translate is correct because it literally called the watermelons synthetic, but I would personally translate the game as 'Watermelon Merger', and leave out the part about them being big.
Your Chinese pronunciation is surprisingly good!
to be fair to the browser version of 2048, they do need to run a website and that's not free.
so cute the little fruits , might have a go with this game
Glad threes is finally getting some recognition
It's easier to see the appeal of 2048 if you consider it an incremental instead of puzzle game. Numbers go up = fun
I remember flash games with the same gimmick as suika game
I thoroughly enjoyed this video, maths or not 😊
fire channel 🔥🔥🔥
Dude that Facebook boomer math meme is gold
2048 absolutely isnt an easy game after 8192.
At that point you dont have a lot of available space to make 2 of 8192 and combine them.
It gets quite tricky quite fast.
Also fixing the structure if you accidentally mess it up badly isnt easy.
How odd, I downloaded this just yesterday.
extremely amazing video pls make more like it
This made me laugh, thanks
2048 in the corner laughing
9:08 see for anyone "online app you need to pay hosting if you want more than 2 people to play the game " and also the ui and elements use frameworks which are not paid, adverts are a good way to keep the game running as long the adverts dont ruin the experiance
beautiful
Any video essay about a game can't be anything but video essay of a game.
First I've seen of this was the eshop. Looked like a trash mobile game, as so much in there is.
You've low key sold me on it. Looks fun! Thanks.
this is the, the suika game~
This channel is a gift to humanity
My sister plays that original suika game on a flash archive and we take great pleasure in the jank. Kiwi physics, kiwi gear, and kiwi car are all our names for common glitches that we get excited about since the kiwis seem to be the jankiest fruit
Man I love 2048 for its mindlessness
Hey hey hey Ketchapp does make some original games! And most of them are fun…
damn u r really underrated
I think 2048 is the only game that was that simple and made by brain go big number = better
I prefer touhou suika game, it's free and much more adorable!
it also has an interesting mechanic of merging 3 to skip a stage, no?
2048 is everywhere
genius
Are you code bullet
frankly, this is the first i've heard of 2048, I've only played 2248, which is.... not really a math's game but masquerading as one, I think? You match as many tiles as you can, starting with at least two of one kind, and then the next in the series and the next and the next and they all add together. It's pretty great in my opinion. There's a 2048 knock off I've seen that's a mix of tetris and 2248, and I'm not a huge fan.... idk I feel like I'm missing something. Maybe it's because I'm on Android.
Don't you hate it when online education is actually a trick to make you watch boring internet drama. Damn.
I found your channel via the curssed u its and I enjoy your videos.
i got bored and made my own clone of suika game in a few days lol it's a fun programming exercise
did you fix that thing where a fruit touches multiple things at once that it makes many more clones?
code bullet had that problem and it made his fruits explode
@@taureon_literally no idea how he would have done that. i had no issues making mine he's just an idiot