The New HARDEST Pokemon Battle - Nemona Postgame Superboss Guide

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  • @kingoftropes922
    @kingoftropes922 Рік тому +1588

    What if you
    Wanted to beat the strongest trainer in the region
    But god said
    *Revival Blessing + Focus Sash*
    Always happy to do some artwork for ya, Cheese!

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +100

      Thank you for the terrifying (and very accurate) Nemona art!!

    • @xander.357
      @xander.357 Рік тому +10

      @ImportedCheese cheese where is the gen 6 Tier list??!!!!????!!??!!

    • @celesteguy4782
      @celesteguy4782 Рік тому +12

      @@xander.357 I have a feeling he's a little tired of being asked this question (probably soon^tm maybe)

    • @heavywalrus1443
      @heavywalrus1443 Рік тому +6

      Im a fan of leading with Iron Bundle with booster energy, sweeping until I eventually miss hydro pump.
      Then Pawmots next.
      I revive Iron Bundle and tank a hit with focus sash, and then set up electric terrain. After Pawmnot is knocked out,Iron Bundle comes back in and activates Quark drive again thanks to the terrain, allowing it a second chance at hitting Hydro Pump!
      Then he misses again anyway and makes me sad for the rest of the match.😢

    • @flyingstonemon3564
      @flyingstonemon3564 Рік тому +1

      Nemona Supplex Champion

  • @SuperNicktendoEntertainment
    @SuperNicktendoEntertainment Рік тому +890

    On one hand, this was a great troll
    On the other hand, you got me SO EXCITED for a battle that DOESN'T EVEN EXIST!

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +175

      Gamefreak pls

    • @Null82085
      @Null82085 Рік тому +20

      DLC?

    • @As-ep8bx
      @As-ep8bx Рік тому +8

      NOOOOOOOOOO

    • @BadFriend145
      @BadFriend145 Рік тому +3

      💀 😭 😊

    • @aegisScale
      @aegisScale Рік тому +28

      I was already thinking "Okay so she has no hazard removal, that's my key to breaking Pawmot without being a switch mode loser" and "Looks like my best bet for Ape is Fairgiraf since it can hurt the thing without worrying about rage fist, maybe burn it first" before the video was over💀

  • @dzigayu4944
    @dzigayu4944 Рік тому +2289

    Namona is definitely my favorite rival at this point, she literally spends the entire game grooming you just so she can have a good fight because everyone else is literally scared of her.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +309

      Glad they gave her a real team!

    • @finnvaneekelen4966
      @finnvaneekelen4966 Рік тому +106

      @@ImportedCheese i understand this is probably joking about the whole cut to black thing but her actual final battle is still pretty good and probably the strongest a rivals team has ever been. I was playing with no switching after ko’s and no items in battle and i almost lost

    • @thecursed_1lordofcats738
      @thecursed_1lordofcats738 Рік тому +97

      So what you are saying is Nemona is basically just Pokemon's version of Hunter×Hunter Hisoka.

    • @kylekennedy2527
      @kylekennedy2527 Рік тому +76

      Can you really blame them for being afraid of her? She literally wears a brace on the arm she throws pokeballs with. Pain means nothing to Nemona, the only language she understands is battle.

    • @mikehawk6823
      @mikehawk6823 Рік тому

      @@kylekennedy2527let’s see if that’s true after I murder her in her sleep

  • @Raybayize
    @Raybayize Рік тому +930

    This team of her explains the two hour time window. Countless tries, hard decision making and thinking about strategies takes effort.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +132

      Exactly! The game just respects your IRL time and gives you the summary!

    • @Dr._Styx34
      @Dr._Styx34 Рік тому +14

      Me wth a level 100 Appleton: Pathetic

    • @shyers3667
      @shyers3667 Рік тому +4

      @@victorvalencia1547 That not impressive..?

    • @guffthebir72
      @guffthebir72 Рік тому +1

      @@victorvalencia1547 so you did the same as everyone else?

    • @shyers3667
      @shyers3667 Рік тому +2

      @@guffthebir72 Not even, I feel like most people just did it underleveled lol

  • @TheoJay615
    @TheoJay615 Рік тому +139

    The battle was so brutal, they wouldn't let us players do it.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +24

      They cut to black to spare us the trauma, #thankyougamefreak

    • @danielaburger9380
      @danielaburger9380 4 місяці тому

      ​@@ImportedCheeseLevel 100 Pokemons:....

  • @joeschof_95
    @joeschof_95 Рік тому +1117

    Dude what the hell I was so excited to go fight her after watching the first part of this video 😂

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +188

      What are you waiting for? Go fight her!

    • @himboghost629
      @himboghost629 Рік тому +52

      @@ImportedCheese jokes on you I'll just make this my team instead

    • @Mewtwo573
      @Mewtwo573 Рік тому +18

      @@himboghost629 jokes on you I will make ur team her team

    • @never-zero5517
      @never-zero5517 Рік тому +5

      @@Mewtwo573 joke on you I will make ur team her team my team

    • @U.N._Owen.
      @U.N._Owen. Рік тому +4

      @@never-zero5517 jokes on you, I will make ur team her team my team her team

  • @svansiian2050
    @svansiian2050 Рік тому +407

    You forgot to say than Nemona has a very specific AI in this battle, that is deep-learning from every fight on Pokemon Showdown and so getting way stronger with each update of the game !

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +85

      Wow! AI in a final battle? They should do something like that!

    • @soberclover1233
      @soberclover1233 Рік тому +1

      @@ImportedCheese lmao

    • @Spiceitwithred
      @Spiceitwithred Рік тому

      @@ImportedCheese creating a new tag #bringbackcynthiaAI

    • @cuitkul
      @cuitkul Рік тому

      @@Spiceitwithred but cynthia had bad ai?

    • @Spiceitwithred
      @Spiceitwithred Рік тому

      @@cuitkul I could have sworn her ai predicted attacks/ knew at least not to stay in on type disadvantages

  • @reval8515
    @reval8515 Рік тому +1744

    Me who has never played the game: what the hell, how did Gamefreak come up with this battle, it seems insanely hard compared to the elite 4 + champion fights, I'm glad they did their job!
    Me at the end of the video: *disappointment kicks in*

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +465

      The battle is in the game, they just cut to black for the 2 hours!

    • @kingofthejungle5338
      @kingofthejungle5338 Рік тому +192

      if i played this game and got hyped to battle nemona's post game squad only for THAT to happen, i would've flipped my table

    • @patfitch6660
      @patfitch6660 Рік тому +92

      @@ImportedCheese yeah, you can actually mod out the black screen and play the fight normally. Little known fact.

    • @unf3z4nt
      @unf3z4nt Рік тому +11

      Red Cherry Wiplump: What a great game!

    • @SirThroy
      @SirThroy Рік тому +50

      @@patfitch6660 why would they cut content like this?
      Like it genuinely interests me...its in the game files right? Its branched/connected with the story of her and there is seemingly no reason for it to be NOT there

  • @Aflay1
    @Aflay1 Рік тому +614

    ....I got really excited for a moment there. This team actually looks fun to battle.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +149

      Don't ever believe anything fun about this game

    • @positivedud4961
      @positivedud4961 Рік тому +4

      😭

    • @yaboifriskygon
      @yaboifriskygon Рік тому +3

      @@ImportedCheeseoh for christs sake

    • @gugol1
      @gugol1 Рік тому +13

      If you think you're disappointed just know that I stopped video halfway through, evolved my bisharp, opened rooms of Arven, Penny and Nemona, did school tournament 2nd time and only then looked at the comments

    • @ethanrose9682
      @ethanrose9682 Рік тому

      @@gugol1 I did the same thing, lol. Just farmed 50 Fairy and Bug Tera Shards to get the right types on my Altaria and Clodsire and then looked at the comments.

  • @Danomega
    @Danomega Рік тому +214

    I have a confession to make... I saw this video, watched the first chapter and left it at that for DAYS to avoid spoilers. I for some reason wanted to believe so badly that Nemona would have a postgame superboss fight to dwarf BDSP Cynthia's that I agonized over not having it unlocked for "some reason", going as far as completing all the classes, and doing all the teacher side quests except two of them. The only reason I didn't finish those two is because at that point it was 4 AM, I caved and decided to accept the spoilers, and actually watched the video... My day was ruined but at least the video was pretty good

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +62

      All part of my scheme to get people to complete the game!!!!!!!
      ...Sorry bro

  • @andrewpaolini5612
    @andrewpaolini5612 Рік тому +23

    "You spent two whole hours battling Pokemon with Nemona!"
    This cannot be real, can it? I cannot imagine the look on that programmer's face when they added that text box instead of an actual battle. It can't be real. It just can't be.

  • @samueldegrey7718
    @samueldegrey7718 8 місяців тому +18

    Considering she beats Kieran, who has a MUCH better team than anything Nemona does in game, I think this is canon

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  8 місяців тому +5

      Kieran didn't exist when this video was made! He'd lose, anyway!!!

  • @jerbear8884
    @jerbear8884 Рік тому +541

    I am disappointed we never got to see what Nemona's original team is like. Would've made for a really sweet post game fight if she switched up her mons often save for Pawmot and the starter.
    But I still really like her and her story- it just resonated with me a bit personally as someone who knows a bit too much about Pokemon and likes it way too much.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +58

      Huh? What do you mean, this IS her original team!

    • @jerbear8884
      @jerbear8884 Рік тому +31

      @@ImportedCheese oh right how quick I am to forget. I think I might've sequence broke my game and the assets didn't load

    • @screechingtoad2683
      @screechingtoad2683 Рік тому +6

      One member was in the opening. Paldean Tauros

    • @screechingtoad2683
      @screechingtoad2683 Рік тому +6

      @@ImportedCheese no it's not. She was using Paldean Tauros combat breed in the opening

    • @saltyralts
      @saltyralts Рік тому +1

      @@screechingtoad2683 you missed the joke

  • @CrayonJackie
    @CrayonJackie Рік тому +304

    Jokes aside, this would honestly be a cool boos fight if someone was to mod this team into the game. It would be a really great post game challenge in a game lacking post-game content aside from DLC

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +70

      Mod into the game? What do you mean, this fight is in the base game...

    • @FlocAud4914
      @FlocAud4914 Рік тому +6

      @@ImportedCheese No spoil

    • @BraydenDoes_Stuff
      @BraydenDoes_Stuff Рік тому

      @@FlocAud4914 no it isnt

    • @clashlabs8580
      @clashlabs8580 Рік тому +13

      It definitely isnt :( The scene he showed just cuts to black and it says „you battled her for 2 hours“

    • @guffthebir72
      @guffthebir72 Рік тому +3

      @@clashlabs8580 its a skill issue, i could battle her and so xould all my freinds

  • @joshtheryuk
    @joshtheryuk Рік тому +12

    "Masuda-san, why didn't you add any postgame battles? And what about the Battle Frontier?"
    "Players today are too busy playing mobile games and having ADHD! That's why we no longer need a postgame!"

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +4

      can't respond, too busy playing mobile games

  • @heriknogueiracezar8945
    @heriknogueiracezar8945 Рік тому +204

    They should hire you for making such a good post-game battle concept, I was very convinced by your video, since I didn't play the game yet, and didn't watch anyone do this part of the post-game

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +34

      You should be convinced, it's a real battle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @dayshonsmith1485
      @dayshonsmith1485 Рік тому +2

      It DEFINITELY isn’t …. lol there is no official way of getting this battle and your the ONLY one that just happens to have any info on it? With no directions on how to face her… it’s a cool concept and I feel they should really put a SUPER strong trainer in game with mons at level 85 to 100… holding items, IV & EV trained…. It may suck for a casual player because they won’t put that much effort into trying to beat them… but it’s something for a competitive player or someone a little more hard-core to focus on.

    • @LoncusZhao
      @LoncusZhao Рік тому +22

      @@dayshonsmith1485 *Breathes out*
      Buddy. Pal...
      This entire video has been a joke. His replies are overblown for a reason.
      You are the _only_ person in this comment section who didn't get that.

    • @dayshonsmith1485
      @dayshonsmith1485 Рік тому +5

      @@LoncusZhao nah there was a few if u go looking through the comments Lmaoo… I was super excited at first. I though I missed something. 🤷🏾‍♂️ it happens! 😂😅

    • @MariokibmibYT
      @MariokibmibYT Рік тому +5

      @@LoncusZhao I'm pretty sure most people who haven't played the game yet (like me lol) fell for this.

  • @Sentient-potato
    @Sentient-potato Рік тому +125

    My favourite part of the Nemona battle is when Nemona said it’s Nemon’n time and proceeded to nemon on screen

  • @piuy849
    @piuy849 Рік тому +98

    This was so difficult it took me 2 whole hours to see the end!

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +16

      Took me two days to come up with this guide!

  • @AniGaAG
    @AniGaAG Рік тому +309

    ... I actually fell for it. Good job. I actually didn't see this coming - for how stupid these games have gotten, I didn't see something _this_ stupid coming. I just... wow.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +52

      Fell for it? As in, lost the battle? I lost, too

    • @AniGaAG
      @AniGaAG Рік тому +17

      @@ImportedCheese Joke's on you, I didn't buy this garbage, so I won without even playing. Easiest boss of my life.

    • @hugosoto913
      @hugosoto913 Рік тому +12

      Its a good game

    • @AniGaAG
      @AniGaAG Рік тому +2

      @@hugosoto913 Sure, mate.

    • @alejandro20271
      @alejandro20271 Рік тому +12

      @@AniGaAGt is, If you didn’t play it, you can’t really judge it. So play it. Or don’t. Idrc

  • @ProAxeru
    @ProAxeru Рік тому +70

    You have really trick me haha, tho I was thinking the entire video I didn't know until now there were an extra battle with her and it was surprising that the team were that good. I've been a fool, game freak could never do that

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +14

      A real battle that really takes two hours!!

  • @jellywillreturn
    @jellywillreturn Рік тому +447

    Sixty seconds into the video: Wow, it sounds like for all its faults, they did something genuinely right with Scarlet and Violet!
    Ninety seconds in: …there is no postgame fight, is there?

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +155

      What makes you think that? The battle took me two hours, personally.

    • @alonk1060
      @alonk1060 Рік тому +35

      I read this, and all the blood drained from my body. Say it isn't so! Say we can have this tremendous battle i can't win! Please!!

    • @greengreninja5725
      @greengreninja5725 Рік тому +25

      @@alonk1060 Same reaction. I didn’t finish the video because I wanted to experience it firsthand, but after Ev training some of my favorite mons… I was devastated. 🎉

    • @michaelwilson9241
      @michaelwilson9241 Рік тому +8

      @@greengreninja5725 i did the same thing i wasted so many candies lol

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +30

      Well uh...at least you have a team ready now!
      Try using it in Wi-Fi!
      .........................with the mandatory 20 minute timer

  • @MiguelitoJimz
    @MiguelitoJimz Рік тому +208

    My favorite part is that she actually leads with a Glimmora since she catched one while in Area Zero.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +81

      Yeah, really great way to show that she DOES have Top champion strats.
      Makes Geeta having Glimmora last actually make sense, it's to contrast with Nemona.
      It's like poetry, it rhymes.

    • @kdub_a2s368
      @kdub_a2s368 Рік тому +6

      @@ImportedCheese so does she lead with garchomp or glimmora?

    • @Janders797
      @Janders797 Рік тому +3

      @@kdub_a2s368 yes

    • @nightmare3642
      @nightmare3642 Рік тому +1

      @@kdub_a2s368 Garmmora

    • @ArdillaAlemana
      @ArdillaAlemana Рік тому

      @@kdub_a2s368 glimchomp

  • @nickfra
    @nickfra Рік тому +35

    Lmao you got me good. I was like wtf did I do something wrong??

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +18

      What's the joke? You battle her for two hours!

  • @Trash_Goblin115
    @Trash_Goblin115 Рік тому +28

    I'm not going to lie you had me going there I was legitimately thinking of team comps to run for this now I feel disappointed. Mission accomplished, great work boss 10 out of 10 meme

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +4

      I held nothing back

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 Рік тому +1

      Legit, 2 or 3 Fake Outs on your team would push it to doable.
      The main problem, hypothetically, is the reverse snowball if she correctly Teras the right pokemon, so using Fake Out to bait the teras is a way of reducing their impact. Additionally, it's worth remembering that Revival Blessing only restores with 1/2 hp, so, just planning to have a pokemon faster than Annihilape in reserve essentially just lets you take Pawmwhatever and Annihilape 2 for free.
      The dangerous ones are Duck Boy and just Garchomp. If you can stop the Moxie Step sweep, and get good value taking down Garchomp, the rest aren't TOO hard to brute force down. Additionally, her team is mostly very aggressive, not really reactive, so a bike-paradox core can honestly just shred most of it, especially if you deploy your own hazards on Garchomp.
      Spidops top tier after all?!?

  • @hylemxylem6756
    @hylemxylem6756 Рік тому +16

    What a great vid. It takes you for a wild ride, pumping you up and making you grind, train and carefully choose items to fight this scary team, and then at the end you realize it was all just a prank bro. Subscribed.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +2

      I wish my experience was as positive....GameFreak pranked me

  • @AJPG64
    @AJPG64 Рік тому +91

    This game seriously needed like 2 more years of development, its a shame that they had so little time to make the game since they have very small and immovable deadlines due to the anime and tcg and merchandise

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +27

      Can we get level scaling pls....at least for gym leaders, come on...

    • @AJPG64
      @AJPG64 Рік тому +8

      @@ImportedCheese yeah thats super lame rom hacks can do that since like 2017

    • @petrie911
      @petrie911 Рік тому +5

      One year would probably be sufficient. The fundamentals are all there; it just needs polish and playtesting.

  • @SagittariusAyy
    @SagittariusAyy Рік тому +19

    I was like “Wait, I never fought Nemona in the postgame”…Then I realized it was a troll. Well played, sir.

  • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
    @shytendeakatamanoir9740 Рік тому +29

    Something I realized is that trainers don't use Healing Items anymore.
    ...So I just PP stalled her using all my Revives (and then soloed with my own Annihilape.
    It still took me 2 hours, but not having any Normal Type makes her way too easy to revenge kill.
    Silicobra + Last Respects Houndstone is also particularly potent.
    All because she didn't keep her ultimate Pokemon, Dudunsparce!

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +7

      Great strategy!!
      Interesting to hear that it also took you two hours!

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 Рік тому +2

      You don't get to be pokemon league champion without knowing how to spam full restores!
      - Bird Keeper Lance

  • @ogjalena
    @ogjalena Рік тому +34

    The trailer and preview image are perfection!

  • @lavaeater5
    @lavaeater5 Рік тому +32

    The happiness I felt hearing that GF finally put in some effort into a battle in pokemon was beautiful.
    And then I watched the end and was brought back to crushing reality.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +6

      Don't ever believe anything positive about this mess

  • @rumiyano
    @rumiyano Рік тому +20

    It took a while to unlock(had to defeat some Divine Beasts, had to beat Ganon) but it was worth it. SV is truly one of the games ever!

  • @canaldecasta
    @canaldecasta Рік тому +24

    >Brags about wanting you to become stronger so she can use her top team.
    >Uses the same team she has been using the whole playthrough.
    Bruh.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +7

      She was going easy on you!!

    • @desdar100
      @desdar100 Рік тому +1

      I was under the assumption the whole point was that she was basically restarting she could fight you on your level similar to Goku or something.

    • @canaldecasta
      @canaldecasta Рік тому

      ​@@desdar100 we all did but Gf gotta GF.
      Nobody proof reads their scripts at that company.

  • @lolzant397
    @lolzant397 Рік тому +21

    Wow I can't believe they actually did this battle so hard it's almost unbelievable

  • @sarasaland4709
    @sarasaland4709 Рік тому +10

    At this point, SV should’ve just been a text box that says
    “You spent $60 and about 15 hours on this unfinished mess!”

  • @SeffScugg
    @SeffScugg Рік тому +16

    I was so scared to have to look forward to the fight, all of my fear has been replaced with an unnatural relief

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +6

      They might add this fight!
      If you pay for the DLC ofc

  • @wJermell0
    @wJermell0 Рік тому +9

    Finally a worthy opponent, our battle will- not be televised...

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +6

      The simple battle graphics allow it to be viewed on even low-performance hardware!

  • @Pufl-tj3yn
    @Pufl-tj3yn Рік тому +7

    Thanks a bunch for this video! Very well made and edited! After watching it I actually recreated it on my game pretty closely to give my friends a fun endgame challenge! The team is very fun to use, and the twists and turns with the unusual Tera types, the protean and the pawmot are all great additions to make the battle dynamic!

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +3

      That sounds like fun! Did they beat you in less than two hours?!

    • @Smash78
      @Smash78 Рік тому

      @@ImportedCheese I did in fact beat him in less than two hours, not after losing first though :D

  • @ImportedCheese
    @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +54

    How many tries did it take YOU to beat postgame Nemona? Which of her pokemon gave you the most trouble?
    Let me know in the comments below! Let's! Traumatized!

    • @canaldecasta
      @canaldecasta Рік тому +5

      First try.
      Lycanroc because I was using only Skeledirge.

    • @extrakrispy81
      @extrakrispy81 Рік тому +3

      I didn't even know about this battle until this video because everyone just keeps saying "no postgame content lol"

    • @randomplayer900k6
      @randomplayer900k6 Рік тому +6

      As much as i hate to admit it,it took me exactly 16 resets to finally find the perfect strategy to beat nemona at an equal or lower level,it required me to use great tusk, a pokemon with legendary stats,equipped with leftovers ,i would first use rapid spin,taking damage from rocky helmet and rough skin at the benefit of boosting speed ,all the while chomp sets up rocks,i would then proceed to spam bulk up ,as garchomp's moves won't deal much damage due to tusk's great physical bulk and the bulk up boosts,then it would be all over as none of her pokemon can outspeed my great tusk after those boosts,and even skeledirge can't tank neither an unboosted earthquake nor a close combat if it decides to tera into ice,which it will to avoid getting oneshotted by earthquake.Overall,it was truly one of the most difficult fight the series has to offer and i'd appreciate if gamefreak keeps up on pumping these difficult fights and even implement a "challenge" mode that's easily accessible to us veteran players from the get go in their next games

    • @EverGreenTaiga
      @EverGreenTaiga Рік тому +9

      bruh I had to manually bring back Mega Evolution to take down this behemoth of a superboss. Some weird-ass punk in a back alley of Levincia gave me a strange bracelet in exchange for the Violet Book, 2 Chaos Emeralds, and Jesus Christ's autograph.
      Oh, and ¥50,000,000 in cash

    • @Metaflossy
      @Metaflossy Рік тому +5

      took me 237 hours and 47 revives on my first try with 6 lvl 100 technician mausholds that all know nothing but bullet seed and population bomb. one wide lens all 24 mices get to share

  • @shopnil4
    @shopnil4 Рік тому +10

    Dang, I thought there was an actual battle, I already did her post game story and thought I missed something and got really excited...

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +1

      I thought there would be a battle, too
      There always is.
      ...Not this time, though.
      $60 pls

  • @patrykszewczuk8741
    @patrykszewczuk8741 Рік тому +2

    "Did you know [...] gets a signature move? It's called [...] and it's pretty good" - best part of the video

  • @misheil7322
    @misheil7322 Рік тому +7

    You made me grab my switch like "how did I miss this battle it sounds so rad"
    I'm mad now 🥺

  • @reillycurran8508
    @reillycurran8508 Рік тому +4

    Ok what if it was even worse though,
    Lead with Palafin, have it swap out for Glimmora ASAP, let it do it's thing until it drops, send Palafin, Annihalape, or filler of your choice, I'd go with a tanky boi like apple pie dragon or Bestsire that can pull some health recogery shickanery for maximum enemy raging, but absent that, Skeledirge's torch song ramping up is a pretty solid grab, once your three bruisers are down, send in pawmot for the revival blessing to bring back Annihalape, and then, after all that, unleash hell with a Kingambit now fueled by the anguish of 6 allied faints, give it the metronome and start dropping that cowtow cleave like you're the miltank of everyone's nightmares spamming rollout.

  • @pikafanone
    @pikafanone Рік тому +3

    I thought this was real and had level 100s just so I could prepare to fight Nemona only to get disappointed that it wasn’t real and it was just a fade to black cutscene.

  • @svansiian2050
    @svansiian2050 Рік тому +7

    gamefreak is a smoll indie company, they don't have the ressources to research such an advanced team as you did

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +4

      MASSIVE 160 lb youtuber BULLIES smol indie company GameFreak

  • @soupccangameclub
    @soupccangameclub Рік тому +12

    I haven't played the game, and based on similar competitive-like postgame fights in recent games, I totally believed you. When you revealed what they actually put in the game I was amazed. Of all the laziness and unfinished jank I've heard about, that black screen might be the funniest. Great video

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +3

      Maybe there will be a postgame superboss!
      If you pay 15 bucks for the DLC (per version, ofc!)

    • @sptflcrw8583
      @sptflcrw8583 Рік тому

      The Battle is so hard you have to do it without looking!

    • @insertnamehere1398
      @insertnamehere1398 Рік тому

      @@ImportedCheese better be penny because the game did not show us how good an eveelution team could be

  • @feleslucis-emanueldearaujo6237

    Finally we see in this Thumbnail that Nemona is a true Paldean woman: extremely buff Giga-Chadress.

  • @Daan_Knobbout
    @Daan_Knobbout Рік тому +10

    Any TRUE completionist knows the actual superboss is a show 6 bring 4 double battle where Nemona gets to pick after you.

  • @AnandTripathi-dd8go
    @AnandTripathi-dd8go Рік тому +7

    If we're going to allow ourselves to look up Nemona's team beforehand like we do with Red/Cynthia to call them "easy" then Nemona isn't too hard to beat. She always leads with Tera Steel Jolly Chomp , so we can lead with Jolly Multiscale Dragonite with DD, Roost, Dragon Claw , EQ and a Fire Tera Type , with Weakness Policy as its item . Multiscale allows it to live Garchomp Outrage (even with a crit) to get up Weakness Policy and Dragon Dance in one turn , and if the stupid AI sets up SR first , you can get in 2 Dragon Dances . Even in the worst case we get +3 Atk and +1 Spe. The fastest Pokemon on Nemona's team is Skeledirge at 324 speed, so we need only invest 148 EV's in Speed to outspeed at +1, none in Attack (+3 anyways) and 252 HP/108 Def allows Dragonite to even tank Garchomp Outrages with Roost (47-56 % damage) . But wait, there's more .
    Since Garchomp is now locked into Outrage , we can go Tera Fire and since GChomp can't use EQ , its dealing a pitiful 47-56 % WITHOUT Multiscale , and its slower so we can roost back up to full if it hits itself in confusion , 40% chance . That's a 40 % chance to get even more Dragon Dances in , since EQ is weaker on a Fire type than Outrage on a Dragon type . But lets say 60% of the time we were forced to kill Garchomp with Dragon Claw/EQ (depending on whether it tera'd or not) .
    The next pokemon out should be Quaqaval with Water moves on DNite's Fire type , but it gets OHKO'd by Dragon Claw, since tera keeps your old STAB bonus.
    The next Pokemon out is probably Annihilape , since it gets only 2HKO'D by DNite. But Annihilape can't deal more than 50% damage without critting , and Dragon Claw is a guaranteed 2HKO even with Bulk Up and Leftovers. The only way you could possibly lose is if DNite has less than 50% health → Drain Punch Crit or Bulk Up into Rage Fist Crit. If DNite has 67 % health or more , you can roost as Annihilape wails in frustration even after death. Either way, DNite has very solid odds to get past Annihilape , especially since if it teras, EQ is super effective.
    Skeledirge comes out next (since its original type is weak to EQ and resisted by Fire it should be sent out by the AI after Annihilape), and is a 2HKO , but sadly , DNite's journey probably ends here. It can go Tera Ice to avoid the OHKO with EQ , and KO Tera Fire DNite with Earth Power. HOWEVER , if Dragonite has Multiscale up by Roosting on Annihilape or is at 90% + health , it avoids being KO'd by Earth Power. In that case:
    Meowscarada is an absolute joke. None of its moves deal over 35% if DNite is a fire type, not even Flower Trick crit. At this point you can set up all over this cat to +6 and OHKO the last 2 pokemon with EQ.
    IF DRAGONITE doesn't survive Skeledirge , even if Skeledirge was the third pokemon , you now have a 5-3 advantage, and you can use any flying/levitating Pokemon to deal with Skeledirge locked into Earth Power. Kilowattrel is a good choice since it matches up favourably against all of Annihilape , Meowscarada and Pawmot, even Quaqaval if it is revived . Generally good Pokemon like your starter , Scizor , Kingambit , the Pardox Pokemon , Gholdengo , Palafin , Tinkaton , Maushold etc etc that you normally used during playthroughs should be able to finish off the rest of Nemona's team since she has absolutely used her Tera at this point , and the game gives you too many good items like Band, Scarf, Life Orb , Assault Vest for her 3 remaining Pokemon to be a threat. Heck , bring another Dragonite to set up on Earth Power and you're good.
    EDIT : I know this battle is a made up joke , but it was fun to analyze regardless. Just in general ,having access to early breeding via picnics, the ease of teaching Egg moves, Hidden ability pokemon from Tera Raids, Mints and Bottle Caps for perfect IVs, EVs ,Natures and so many good Pokemon , items and TM's , along with the broken Terastallization mechanic just completely turns any "superboss" battle into a joke if you're prepared , only playing blind can give you some challenge. I haven't even mentioned here that you can get DNite to level 100 easily with EXP candy and other training methods , which would probably mean a 6-0 sweep . Moral of the story : Multiscale is broken, and Dragonite is awesome.

  • @TheGasMan666
    @TheGasMan666 Рік тому +3

    You broke my heart...
    I HAD THIS VIDEO SAVED SINCE LAST WEEK THINKING IT WAS A REAL TEAM ONLY TO CHECK IT TODAY AND REALISE IT WASN'T! HOW COULD YOU HURT ME LIKE THIS!?

    • @TheGasMan666
      @TheGasMan666 Рік тому +1

      Jokes aside, I really did think there was an ex nemona battle and didn't want to spoil myself so I didn't watch the full video. Needless to say you got me...
      😄
      😭

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +4

      GameFreak hurt me first, now I must use pain split

  • @pinoblack1136
    @pinoblack1136 Рік тому +12

    Wow, thank you for making this Video! I didn't even know that there was a final battle because I didn't bother to do the friend missions. Will definitly go back and spend time on those instead of catching shinies!

  • @xaropevic7918
    @xaropevic7918 Рік тому +6

    I was trolled so hard that I needed to think around 5 minutes, search her post game team just to figure it out it was really a pun

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +2

      I think some people actually trained teams for her
      Which you should, of course! She's tough!

  • @khaychi
    @khaychi Рік тому +6

    Nemonas simp level sure is over 9000 any time you run into her. Still, my most favorite rival so far.

  • @H-Zorua-Enjoyer
    @H-Zorua-Enjoyer Рік тому +7

    My favourite part of her battle is when she suddenly gets 6 omni boosts in a row because of ancient power because i was very irritated and created a competitive murkrow for that reason

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +1

      I was considering having Annihilape's Defiant having special synergy with being revived and granting an omniboost, but I thought that was...a bit much.

  • @wizmudkip
    @wizmudkip Рік тому +51

    Finally! A genuine challenge without using any sort of cheating mechanics in a pokemon game, and with such a well written character! Scarlet and Violet have to be the best games ever made, and definitely the best ever on switch! Thanks for the tutorial Cheese!

  • @mcrufflestuffles7726
    @mcrufflestuffles7726 Рік тому +2

    I was fooled... Tricked... Lied to.... Deceived... Stringed along... Full blown pranked... I hope you know I will have trust issues forever because of you!

  • @Certifiedpainuser2806
    @Certifiedpainuser2806 Рік тому +1

    “Why won’t you die?”
    “Tera types, son. They harden in response to fairy type attacks.”

  • @skindoormimiz
    @skindoormimiz Рік тому +8

    thanks for the info! Took me still around 2 hours but I finally won thanks to the power of friendship

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +1

      Two hours is the average time it takes most who reach the battle!

  • @capricorncapital4987
    @capricorncapital4987 Рік тому +5

    I was literally crying hearing the first half like I was thinking to myself. "I'm about to get my ass kicked again for the 3rd time this year playing Pokemon are you kidding me." 🤣🤣

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +1

      If you somehow lost to a regular pokemon battle you have no shot here

  • @j2398
    @j2398 Рік тому +1

    Shes like toguro watching yusuke go through the dark tournament and getting stronger as their battle nears

  • @weaselywhitman-tx7wz
    @weaselywhitman-tx7wz Рік тому +2

    Bamboozled 280,000 people, played all of us like a fiddle. Masterful in the art of trickery, not a feat to belittle. How does one come up with such a masterful prank? For the good fun and many a laugh I give you my thanks.

  • @maxwellwilliams1802
    @maxwellwilliams1802 Рік тому +5

    I was like wow, gotta go back and do Nemona then! Then immediately was crushed when the ending happened

  • @Vixcitement
    @Vixcitement Рік тому +12

    truly the boss of all time

  • @mattdeluccia153
    @mattdeluccia153 Рік тому +2

    I watched this whole video like “Damn I’m so impressed that game freak made a legitimately difficult super boss fight.” 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @steelph7006
    @steelph7006 Рік тому +1

    "This is too good to be true" kept repeating in my head while I was watching this.
    Turns out it WAS too good to be true. Thanks Game Freak.

  • @zepia7201
    @zepia7201 Рік тому +4

    Dog I spent like an hour searching for Nemona trying to trigger this fight LOL

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +2

      An hour? Only half the length of the actual battle!

  • @ThePod768
    @ThePod768 Рік тому +5

    i expected her last pokemon to be the mythical 5 segment dudududunsparce

    • @ThePod768
      @ThePod768 Рік тому +1

      oh right i can use channel emotes in comments

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +2

      She's not a cheater!

  • @KohdeeCA
    @KohdeeCA Рік тому +1

    When that "did you know" running joke came around again on Anhillape, the joke really landed for me. FANTASTIC video.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +2

      Did you know none of the mechanics for this battle were made up? Rage Fist really does persist through death!
      ...Battle itself is made up though

  • @etheriathedragon617
    @etheriathedragon617 Рік тому +1

    Me making the best counter to this team I could think of with my limited competitive knowledge in my head knowing full well that this isn't real:

  • @yoso378
    @yoso378 Рік тому +8

    Wow it's impressive that they managed to put together a legit super boss. That said, it kinda feels like the signature moves and hidden abilities of the starters were designed solely to make this fight tougher lol.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому

      Paldean starters being OPOP definitely made this battle WAY harder

    • @yoso378
      @yoso378 Рік тому

      @@ImportedCheese honestly I kinda like that since they will be the ones players are gonna get attached to. Making them all good is way better than their usual MO of making 2/3 or all of them terrible lol

    • @yoso378
      @yoso378 Рік тому +1

      Omg this is what I get for not watching until the literal end lmao. Damn it I had to take the dog out and stopped right before your "first attempt" 😭

  • @syntthia
    @syntthia Рік тому +3

    you got me lol, used all my candies to level up only to realize the battle wasn’t real

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +1

      Now you have a strong team! All ready for the DLC!!!

  • @gadget8637
    @gadget8637 Рік тому +1

    Me:
    "Oh fuck! Cool! I'll pause the video cuz i don't want spoilers, and really want to fight Nemona!"
    I fell for it hard

  • @CheshireVulpes
    @CheshireVulpes Рік тому +1

    I fought this team i was dissapointed with how quickly everything went down on her side didn’t even know it was the super boss lol

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +1

      I doubt you beat her in less than two hours!!

    • @CheshireVulpes
      @CheshireVulpes Рік тому

      @@ImportedCheese i had a lv90+ team when i got there and i cover my weaknesses im not a noob either

  • @FatherOfGray
    @FatherOfGray Рік тому +6

    I am the dumbest buffoon on the planet omg. I legit thought this was real because I hadn't done any of the post game friend storyline stuff. What's worse is that even after the very end of the video instead of realizing it was fake, I continued to be strung along for WAY longer than probably anyone else here.
    Me after watching the end: "Okay so he's keeping the fight a surprise or for a later video and to see it myself, I have to actually finish her storyline first."
    Me after doing that: "Okay well she mentioned the Ace Tournament so I guess I need to keep battling there until she shows up as an opponent and that will be her new team."
    Me after beating her then: "Alright same team in the tournament, but I bet I can fight her in the courtyard or something,

    • @FatherOfGray
      @FatherOfGray Рік тому

      Was on mobile and submitted the comment too early, but needless to say after checking the courtyard again AND talking to her in her room again, THAT was finally when I figured I had been had. I'm one gullible motherfucker practically any day besides April 1st. Maybe that's just how much I wanted this to be true and for SV to have more content.

    • @Silburific
      @Silburific Рік тому +1

      "It's just a little boring- it's still good, it's still good!!"
      "It's done, dad."
      "I know..."

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +4

      Don't worry, this whole video was set up to DECIEVE you.
      Just like I was decieved by GameFreak

  • @tomikokasaka624
    @tomikokasaka624 Рік тому +6

    Dude. I've been craving for a strong npc battle for 2 weeks and when I saw this, I was so excited that I went to school for the first time since I finished the tournament with was 3 weeks a go.
    Edit: I'm disappointed by the ending

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +2

      Did uh...did you finish the video ?

    • @tomikokasaka624
      @tomikokasaka624 Рік тому +1

      @@ImportedCheese yes I did. Sorry I didn't make my disappointment clear

  • @omarpineda57
    @omarpineda57 Рік тому +1

    I'm not just disappointed. I'm beyond that and I can't even think of the word.

  • @RezboaDog
    @RezboaDog Рік тому +2

    The "Did you know....and it's pretty good" takes me out every time. I'm subscribing!

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +1

      Let's! Subscribing!

    • @remcrimson2750
      @remcrimson2750 Рік тому

      @@ImportedCheese Did you know that Imported Cheese get's a signature move? It's called Click the Subscribe Button. And it's pretty good!

  • @rajg.p7584
    @rajg.p7584 Рік тому +3

    Wally walking up with his battle mason team being full competitive with good moveset and held items

  • @TheGBZard
    @TheGBZard Рік тому +8

    I had no idea that Nemona was so bonkers strong since I didn’t get the game. This battle makes Ultra Necrozma look like a Kalos Gym Leader in comparison

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +3

      Ofc she's stronger than Ultra Necrozma, she has a team of 6!
      Almost much more fair since it's a postgame optional battle.

  • @LeifMaelstrom
    @LeifMaelstrom Рік тому +2

    I think that Pokemon can afford to have a super hard post game. If you're a child you're not beating the champ anyways. If you're old enough to beat them, then it is time to learn how to play the game for real.

  • @Gw1tre
    @Gw1tre Рік тому +2

    I got trolled so badly, I spent 4 hours putting together a team SPECIFICALLY to be trolled by this man when it was a text box, LMAO

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +1

      Was it I who trolled you, or the largest franchise of all time who can't even be bothered to add a single postgame battle?

    • @Gw1tre
      @Gw1tre Рік тому

      Both if I’m being honest, I was really excited, and got a text box, I can’t even rematch gym leaders infinitely… game was far too rushed in my opinion.

    • @Gw1tre
      @Gw1tre Рік тому

      I didn’t watch the end before, obviously, but I’d reckon if I saw that before I’d think there was some sort of lock, on it, I wanted to believe..

  • @206Zelda
    @206Zelda Рік тому +3

    Me, approaching Nemona after I've overpowered everything with just three 'serious' Pokémon: "Well this is awkward! ☕"

  • @DeltaDucko
    @DeltaDucko Рік тому +5

    When I watched this video I was shocked and excited that I missed a battle, especially since it looked like a really good fight! but then I to the end of the video and now my day is ruined, and now I can only dream of a battle like this.

  • @MothFable
    @MothFable Рік тому +1

    The moment her monkey revives is when I should hear vordt of the boreal valet phase two theme

  • @blehrg8638
    @blehrg8638 Рік тому +2

    Love the concept but at 6:39, that’s not how unaware works, unaware ignores every stat boost EXCEPT for speed, so a Pokémon with a speed boost will still likely outspeed him

  • @Idontknowwhattocallmyusername
    @Idontknowwhattocallmyusername Рік тому +5

    Flutter Mane is insane for this fight btw

  • @An_Entire_Lime
    @An_Entire_Lime Рік тому +4

    I know the fans have been begging for a tougher game but this is just excessive
    Nuzlockers are lucky this is the last fight in the game because they wont have many pokemon standing after its done.

  • @PikaPipa
    @PikaPipa Рік тому +1

    The real reason there wasn't an actual battle was because they knew we wouldn't stand a chance.

  • @jaxsonpiwek7537
    @jaxsonpiwek7537 Рік тому +4

    Wow, you got me, I was so ready to boot up my game and fight her ☠️☠️☠️

  • @bethany5882
    @bethany5882 Рік тому +18

    Thank you so much for making this guide! I've been really struggling with this fight, can't wait to try these tactics and see if I can *finally* win. I just want to beat the post-game 😭😭

  • @kisaragireion
    @kisaragireion Рік тому +3

    That was a hard fought first attempt. Pretty impressed you held out for so long against this beast of a trainer. Must have been a brutal 2 hours only to lose in a bitter defeat.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +3

      Thank you! It was a bit disappointing to still lose after two hours, but I have no regrets. I got her on the 5th attempt!

  • @Morris9476
    @Morris9476 Рік тому +2

    I may run this team on Showdown for shits and giggles, mainly to see what reactions I can get

  • @nevah1922
    @nevah1922 Рік тому +1

    I was so ready, I literally trained a new team of the shinies I hunted to level 85. Spent ALL of my money on vitamins since I don’t have time to EV train. Then and on THEN do I see the end of the video. Damn bro.

  • @kylegullotta7780
    @kylegullotta7780 Рік тому +5

    I fell for Sunflorest and now this

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +2

      Sunflourish was fake, but this is real! Two hour battle!

  • @blockeontheleafeon
    @blockeontheleafeon Рік тому +3

    I checked and her Ace Tournament Team isn't like this. At most her highest-levelled Pokémon is Level 72.
    If the Team you described was her Ace Tournament Team, now THAT would've been interesting. Instead we get her final battle but slightly higher-levelled to make it a bit harder than last time.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +3

      Are you sure? This battle took me two whole hours!!

    • @blockeontheleafeon
      @blockeontheleafeon Рік тому +1

      @@ImportedCheese Perhaps its an unreleased battle that will appear during the DLC. I'm keeping an eye out. The Arven fight in the base game looked promising already so we'll see what Nemona can do when the DLC arrives.

  • @CaptainRillaboom
    @CaptainRillaboom Рік тому +1

    0:09 "No one will ever steal Fake Nemona's crown"
    Me, with the Prankster trick: *AM I A JOKE TO YOU?*

  • @si54mon
    @si54mon Рік тому +2

    Great troll of yours

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому

      Troll? Try the battle for yourself, it's brutal!

  • @kobyma2
    @kobyma2 Рік тому +3

    Aww, I hoped it's a real thing.
    I mean, they did sort of try doing something like this with "smogon" Wally in ORAS

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +2

      Even the ORAS "The Battle Frontier Project has started!" slap in the face was better than what we got in this game

  • @avitraangelica9278
    @avitraangelica9278 Рік тому +10

    A battle against the team like you've described is the one thing I figured could make me play the game! Thank you for letting us know!
    Clearly it's worth waiting for Home to drop so I can use my serious long-time team and really enjoy this properly! Metagross will be thrilled!

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Рік тому +2

      Yeah, subscribe to Pokemon Home! And while you're at it, pick up the new Patreon eeveelution in the video description!

    • @avitraangelica9278
      @avitraangelica9278 Рік тому

      @@ImportedCheese While moving a team up would only need the one box you can have without subscription, let's be real: anyone still seriously excited to get S/V at this point would probably get the subscription for no useful reason. GTS might go from one segment at a time to three, but not worth it.
      Point is, Scarlet and Violet remain true to form with their ultimate post-game champion rematch. A brutal two-hour experience! Video was very worth watching. Also I appreciate your glitch compilations for making sure I don't buy these games in the first place.
      RIP anyone committed to that Living Dex Life though, even if they don't do gen 9.

  • @DrErikNefarious
    @DrErikNefarious Рік тому +1

    Even if this doesn't exist, you've given everyone a good idea for a team build now.

  • @Squishito
    @Squishito Рік тому +1

    I went in to this completely fooled, despite having many hours in this game doing all kinds of things and presuming I had found all the postgame content. I was like "wait, I thought it was just a black screen fakeout, there _is_ a big final fight somewhere!?". Then the ending hit me. That was some good shit, got me completely. I was hyped for something that never existed. Damn shame though lol.