Spyderco Native 5 LW VS Benchmade Bugout

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  • @krazykat64
    @krazykat64 5 років тому +21

    Own both, like both, but given the slight weight difference the N5 gets more pocket time mainly because it feels more robust to me. Just feel more confident holding it than I do the Bugout.

  • @Sumatra123
    @Sumatra123 3 роки тому +12

    The Native all day long.

  • @cocabandi
    @cocabandi 4 роки тому +8

    These are two light, attractive and competitive knives, and which knife to chose depends on personal preference. As for myself, I'll take the Spyderco Native 5.

  • @cbrstar7145
    @cbrstar7145 6 років тому +14

    I chose the Native 5 over the Bugout. The main reason is I just found the lack of liners makes the handle on the bugout feel too bendable. IMHO I actually felt like the Bugout doesn't feel as nice as the Griptillian for deployment and is way over priced.

    • @Hallo81398
      @Hallo81398 10 місяців тому

      I have the Griptillian, i like the deployment of it but feel like it's too thick and heavy for an edc

  • @deanalbertson7203
    @deanalbertson7203 4 роки тому +6

    I prefer the Spyderco thumb hole vs the Benchmade thumb stud.

    • @HamBone86
      @HamBone86 8 місяців тому

      I love that hole

  • @BenKickert
    @BenKickert 5 років тому +2

    I have had my eye on the Bugout for a while as a hiking/backpacking knife. It is light weight and the blue color stands out if dropped. Now that Spyderco has a Salt version of the Native 5 with LC200N steel and in bright yellow, I am convinced that must be a near perfect outdoor sports knife. Thanks for the review... knowing the LW Native 5 edged the Bugout in your comparison makes it easier to commit, especially with the new color and blade steel of the Salt Native 5.

    • @vsauce6940
      @vsauce6940 5 років тому

      We have the same problem my dude

    • @BenKickert
      @BenKickert 5 років тому

      @@vsauce6940 I ended up with the Native 5 Salt and couldn't be happier. It isn't as fun to fiddle with as an axis lock, but it is excellent.

  • @spmac101
    @spmac101 6 років тому +4

    Got a “and that’s what she said” line in there... instant like on the vid.

  • @Lazarus745
    @Lazarus745 6 років тому +18

    The Native 5 is soon to be out in LC200N. That's gonna be great.

    • @bp-hx9ts
      @bp-hx9ts 6 років тому +2

      Lazarus745 9 years later you’ll be saying the same thing

    • @bp-hx9ts
      @bp-hx9ts 5 років тому +3

      Lazarus745 lol just saw my comment snagged one

    • @jeremys8360
      @jeremys8360 5 років тому +1

      bp69 mine was on preorder for 80,000,000 years lmao. Mines awesome. Crazy sharp

    • @bp-hx9ts
      @bp-hx9ts 5 років тому +1

      Jeremy S sharpened mine and it could whittle the whittles on hair lol

    • @chrismiscellaneous
      @chrismiscellaneous 4 роки тому +1

      Have it and love my native 5 salt

  • @56silvershine
    @56silvershine 3 роки тому +1

    Native5 now available in SPY27

  • @aray9628
    @aray9628 6 років тому +2

    This is crazy I can't believe u made this review! For the past 2 weeks everyday I've been thinking about which one of these knives I should buy I'm torn between the two. I really love the Native 5 but I'm freaking crazy about the bug out so I'm pretty sure that's what I'm going to get! Probably end up getting the Native later on too. Thanks for all the info really love the channel you ROCK brother!👍🤘👊✌

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому

      You can’t really go wrong with either. Enjoy!

    • @MrGeerbear
      @MrGeerbear 6 років тому

      Hi Adam!

    • @aray9628
      @aray9628 6 років тому

      MrGeerbear 👊✌

  • @listenup455
    @listenup455 6 років тому +4

    I have a lot of love for my Native 5 LW but rarely carry it because damn does it carry shallow in the pocket.

  • @richardkev3077
    @richardkev3077 17 днів тому

    Very good comparison. I’ll only disagree on one point:
    To me, the Bugout is the most expensive, cheap-feeling knife I’ve ever had in my hands. It works fine. It’s easy to carry. But it feels like an overgrown, Gerber LST. The Native 5 -especially the compression lock version - feels much more solid. It’s still plastic, but at least the scales don’t flex like a toy knife.

  • @jcb6713
    @jcb6713 6 років тому +1

    ...nice comparison ...been looking at the Native5 for awhile ...like to see the Bugout in a few colors; maybe later...have a great week....

  • @HamBone86
    @HamBone86 8 місяців тому

    I have both and it’s really tough to say which I like better. I like the axis lock better because of my ADHD since it’s very fidgety, but I love the Spydie hole. Funny thing is that my go to edc is my Cold Steel Code 4 tanto lol.

  • @danokitemanotoo1791
    @danokitemanotoo1791 3 роки тому +1

    I have 1 Bugout & 3 N5LW's + a Native 4 FRN, so you can guess my favorite of the two!

  • @areuaware6842
    @areuaware6842 6 років тому +14

    I've alway felt that Benchmade products are way overpriced.

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому +3

      A lot of them definitely are. I don’t think this one is. It’s on the high end but acceptable to me after having it for awhile. The Native V is just a bargain for S35 and it’s rare I call a Spyderco a bargain.

    • @bp-hx9ts
      @bp-hx9ts 6 років тому

      areUaware there not as overpriced as people say but I think some of them definitely are some are really good deals

  • @ElonaldTrusk
    @ElonaldTrusk 6 місяців тому

    After having both, i would recommend the native 5.

  • @adamtimmins3035
    @adamtimmins3035 6 років тому +16

    Sometimes I feel like the only knife guy who doesn't like forward choils. I would rather have as long of a cutting edge as can fit in the handle. For that reason most sypdercos are out for me.

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому +2

      Naah... You're not the only one. I MOSTLY like them but sometimes I don't.

    • @bp-hx9ts
      @bp-hx9ts 6 років тому +5

      For a lock back you need it to close 1 handed

    • @1ohtaf1
      @1ohtaf1 4 роки тому

      @@bp-hx9ts No you don't, look at the endura or delica...

    • @bp-hx9ts
      @bp-hx9ts 4 роки тому +2

      1ohtaf1 the endura and delica have a ricaso that functions like a less effective finger choil

    • @1ohtaf1
      @1ohtaf1 4 роки тому

      ​@@bp-hx9ts Nah man I'd say a ricasso is the opposite of having a choil, let alone a _finger_ choil. I was just pointing out a few lock back knives without finger choils that can be closed one handed, the Al Mar Eagle and Falcons are other examples.

  • @frkshw_edc9887
    @frkshw_edc9887 6 років тому +15

    I would have to give the win to the bugout for the simple fact that I hate back locks. I know that is just my opinion but that is also the reason I'll never own a delica

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому +2

      I can totally get that. They weren’t my thing for a long time but now I’ve grown to love my Manix 2 Back Lock and the Cold Steel American Lawman. And this Native 5 obviously... But almost any other lock system is more fun.

    • @frkshw_edc9887
      @frkshw_edc9887 6 років тому +1

      I had an American Lawman for 2 days. I sent it back. My hands have been abused too much to use a triad lock comfortably. My girlfriend couldn't even unlock it with both her hands, so it wasn't a safe knife in this household

    • @MrGeerbear
      @MrGeerbear 6 років тому +1

      Cold Steel fans say they break-in. What happens first, break-in or broken thumb? Apostle P modded a portion of the triad to loosen up the spring w/o losing strength. Cold Steel should do that in production.

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому +1

      I only have one but it did break in after a week or two. And my thumb surgery was surprisingly cheap and painless. ;)

    • @MrGeerbear
      @MrGeerbear 6 років тому

      Slicey- Too funny. I hope you have healed.

  • @alexmarchica5264
    @alexmarchica5264 2 роки тому

    Subscribed because you dropped the "thats what she said." Content was great too!

  • @BPF80MCar-vi1pg
    @BPF80MCar-vi1pg Рік тому +2

    That native 5 is gar superior to the benchmade .I have the carbon fiber one

  • @MrGeerbear
    @MrGeerbear 6 років тому +2

    Sliceman- Great comparison. I think people hate on the Bugout due to the name. That would be my last choice if SHTF. I hear they flex a lot w/o liners. It is overpriced like you said. I agree with your conclusion.

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому +1

      You'll see when I do the full review. The "flex" is a total non-issue.

  • @grumpyoldwizard
    @grumpyoldwizard 4 роки тому +1

    People seem to love the Bugout but I have had terrible luck with mine. I got the special “Battlewash” edition from Knife Center. I took it out to show my wife and I was very excited. That is, until I found the Axis lock to to be incredibly gritty. The second time I used the lock, it jammed sideways! I have owned a lot of Benchmade Axis locks before and never run into this problem. I think my jaw literally dropped with surprise. My wife liked the knife, so I gave it to her. I kept thinking about the knife and ordered another for myself. I was certain the first was just a anomaly. I was wrong. The second knife was just as gritty and prone to jamming sideways as the first was. This edition cost around $154 too! The Bugout is literally the last knife I would “Bugout” with. I think I would probably take a RAT 1 in D2 over the Bugout any day. I am not a hater and I am glad most people have better experiences. I miss the look of the original Native. I got one when they first came out and the blade looked a lot different. It had a swedge on the blade which gave it a much more aggressive look than the newer model Native. It is still one of my favorite knives. For me, the Native would win because I don’t like the Axis lock.

  • @johnalessi6004
    @johnalessi6004 5 років тому +3

    So native 5 lightweight s110v or Chaparrel noble in XHP...??????

  • @frkshw_edc9887
    @frkshw_edc9887 6 років тому +2

    I can't say s35vn holds an edge longer because I haven't dulled either of my pm2s in these steels. I can say the s35vn is easier to sharpen than s30v and I haven't had any s35vn blades chip. My pm2 in s30v and my griptillian in s30v have both chipped on me

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому +1

      I haven’t had one chip yet but I’ve heard enough to know it’s coming some day.

    • @desertrainfrog1691
      @desertrainfrog1691 5 років тому

      Cedric & Ada steel testing shows s30v holds slightly longer. Pretty negligible tho it seemed

  • @nintendontbutdo5507
    @nintendontbutdo5507 4 роки тому +1

    I am a benchmade fan and a spyderco fan all the way. But i feel as time goes on spyderco somehow gets you more bang for your buck. Love benchmade still but i just see them loosing ground and sticking to pricey knives instead of trying to make their knives more value. I mean take the 940 i love it but its like 200 or more for s30v. I can get a manix 2 for 200 in maxamet and 175 for maxamet in a native 5 for two much more worth it knives imo. I just see benchmade needs to do something to narrow the gap there and give you what you pay for :)

  • @NDeemz
    @NDeemz 5 років тому

    My bugout came with terrible centering and after taking it apart and lubing it still has gritty action and I've been trying to break it in to no avail. Then I bought another one and centering was fine but in order to get no blade play I had to tighten the pivot to where I could barely deploy the knife. I'm kinda done with benchmade at this point

  • @CAborn1112
    @CAborn1112 2 роки тому

    The BM Bugout is my new go-to edc

  • @mr.shellcracker9161
    @mr.shellcracker9161 4 роки тому

    How is the axis lock compared to a lock back? I've always carried a lock back vs a liner lock because he knife has a tendency to stay closed if the knife is "bumped out" a little bit in the pocket. Great review. I really like seeing these together.

  • @DobermansRock
    @DobermansRock 6 років тому +3

    They could sell the 535 for $65.00. Costs $24 to make.

    • @frederickj.7136
      @frederickj.7136 5 років тому

      Ohhhh, you've seen the *books* at Spyderco's accountants' offices, have you??! Ah, yes, what a nursery full of whiners does your class of tedious, ludicrously presumptuous, and perpetually disappointed *fake* prospects to buy consist! I'm sure they can better accommodate your requirements at WalMart, so why waste time watching (or not really watching) videos like this one?
      The pertinent illiteracy and lack of meaningful knowledge behind your absurd conjectures concerning consumer product manufacturing and marketing are self evident and unmistakable.
      See UA-cam -- David Dunning: "Why Incompetent People Think They Are Amazing". [The 'Dunning-Kruger' effect]

  • @mharbour86
    @mharbour86 6 років тому +2

    Quality would be a tie IMHO considering spyderco is always top notch and glad to see Benchmade does now to

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому

      I gave it to the Benchmade because it seems finished more like a $115 knife than the Native 5 felt finished like a $95 knife.

  • @kofkiller
    @kofkiller 6 років тому +1

    Lovely comparison, very well done. Any plans for a comparison between the Native 5 LW vs the Para 3?

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому

      My Para 3 is S110V so not a really good comparison. If I wind up with a regular Para 3 or an S110V Native 5, I will.

    • @kofkiller
      @kofkiller 6 років тому +1

      Slicey Dicey BladeHQ is getting the brown S35VN Para 3 soon, if you get one of those you have no choice but to make said video 😁 Keep up the good work!

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому

      I can't really argue with that logic.

    • @twallison1
      @twallison1 5 років тому +1

      Maybe a comparison between native 5 lightweight and new para 3 lightweight when it comes out soon?

  • @kerryrwac
    @kerryrwac 6 років тому +1

    You can tune the action on any Axis Lock so that it's a free dropper with no side to side play . Of course , since it's an Axis lock , it's already weak detent will be nonexistent . roguebladeworks on Instagram will sell you G10 or Carbon Fiber scales for the Bugout . I'd go with the Native as well and it's coming out as part of the Salt Series with LC200N steel for 116.97 .

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому

      Yeah the Salt Native is on my list for sure! My Bugout is working superbly now. Just had to break in.

    • @kerryrwac
      @kerryrwac 6 років тому +1

      And you can amuse yourself with the bugout by pressing the scales together when its open .

  • @mt_baldwin
    @mt_baldwin 6 років тому +1

    The kershaw injection 3.0 is bladehq's top selling knife overall(!?), the bear grylls survival knife was one of the top selling fixed blades ever and last jedi made 1.3 billion. Good sales say nothing about how good something actually is. A better knife for bugging out would be the boker patriot, super light, good steel, U.S. made and $50 less.

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому

      The Bugout name is kinda dumb but I didn't think it was worth making a thing out in a comparison. I'll mention it more in the full review. It's a good extra-light EDC.

  • @keystonedaytrip238
    @keystonedaytrip238 6 років тому

    I own the Spider , it's an excellent EDC.

  • @MrT6250
    @MrT6250 6 років тому

    I'm jonesing for a goddamn bug out must resist urge to buy!

  • @chrisjaskulski8613
    @chrisjaskulski8613 5 років тому +2

    Oh, but the Native 5 Salt!

  • @menacewithaknife4045
    @menacewithaknife4045 5 років тому

    When it comes to the better value bugout wins if you want deep carry 25 dollars for the after market clip puts cost over the bugout

  • @genoburgess6817
    @genoburgess6817 5 років тому +3

    I can't stand the handles it looks like a walmart knife to me because of that,but that's just me

  • @legendzfall
    @legendzfall 6 років тому +1

    Not a fan of the "value" designation... I'd rather just pit the knives against each other on their own merits.

  • @docsol22
    @docsol22 6 років тому

    Very nice. Any thoughts on native 5 lightweight compared to chaparral lightweight? Thanks.

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому +1

      I responded to your question on the Native V video thusly... Much larger but people keep asking for that comparison... THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN! I'll do a video sometime soon.

    • @docsol22
      @docsol22 6 років тому +1

      Slicey Dicey I never saw the first reply. Thanks for your efforts.

  • @puipaskorn1178
    @puipaskorn1178 2 роки тому

    Native​ 5​ : i​ look​ that​ it's​ beautyful​ than​ Benchmade..

  • @chaseperkins5487
    @chaseperkins5487 6 років тому +3

    Bug out is overpriced you can get a G10 Manix for 5 bucks less. Same steel and better materials, if it had S35VN it might be justified.

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому

      I have both. Never been a time when I considered carrying one over the other. Totally different knives. Manix is larger and heavier. Bugout is all about lightweight.

    • @chaseperkins5487
      @chaseperkins5487 6 років тому +3

      Slicey Dicey The bugout is definitely a different animal than the manix, and it is a beast in its class. Just stating an example in cost vs. materials. I think 90 would be reasonable. But still a great knife, at a decent price! Great comparison keep the unique vids coming 👍🏻

  • @thelonerider5644
    @thelonerider5644 5 років тому

    Wait... you only have ONE Native5?

  • @Thezedword12
    @Thezedword12 5 років тому +1

    For me the buyout wins aesthetically

    • @evshrug
      @evshrug 5 років тому +2

      Fair to say. Aesthetics are quite subjective, since both of these are functional. Help me see more what you see:
      I look at the bugout, and it looks like a quite traditional silhouette (which is handsome and masculine, in a way), and I like that blue on the scales and thumbstud - unique but not too loud. I like the swedge, adding some visual interest.But I don’t like the closed look, how the bottom of the blade squares off and leaves a gap up to the top of the handle. Take away the blue, and the traditional shape becomes boring because it’s basic, blocky, inorganic. Not wrong or bad, but not inspired.
      I look at the Native, and the first thing I see is the silhouette: the smooth line formed from the tip of the blade, continued through the handle, onto the base of the handle. It is a simple but beautiful thing, seeming to unify the parts. It’s one of the few Spyderco without a hump, and that to me signals that it’s easy to reach past in the pocket. Even closed, the choil on the handle hides the base of the blade. Speaking of that choil, it and the sculpting in the handle suggest that the tool will melt into the hand for a very positive grip, plenty of size without being really long deep down into the pocket. They spydie hole also adds an organic shape of interest, promising better purchase than a nail nick at any angle all through the path of deployment, flexibility with/without gloves, and not sticking out in the path of things cut at the base of the blade or sticking out when brushing past in the pocket.
      Native isn’t all sunshine and roses though. Hate the basic black... again, it’s handsomely boring and standard. Backlock is “practical” but not flick-fun, add to the fidget factor that the pivot isn’t even on bronze washers. How can Spyderco do a lightweight without the wire clip?
      My ideal would be the native 5 shape, with a foliage green or British racing green handle scales (like they do ZDP knives, heck I’d even take orange or blue, but those two greens are subtle), compression lock or axis lock/ball lock, deep carry clip (wire or otherwise), and while we’re at it maybe the TaiChung style FRN like on the Chaparral LW? I’d also take a Benchmade Mini Grip with the hole, but cover the gap at the base of the blade and maybe a little more sculpting on the handle in general, blue handle scales like the Bugout. I’d take both knives with Micarta scales instead of nylon!

  • @MrBigTexFyre
    @MrBigTexFyre 4 роки тому +1

    Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me BUT when you talk about the Benchmade having perfect blade centering that blade is almost touching the side. What gives?

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  4 роки тому +1

      It's your eyes or the camera angle. My son still carries that one and it's still centered.

  • @JediJunkie247
    @JediJunkie247 5 років тому

    Spyderco Native 5 LW in S35VN or Spyderco Manix 2 LW in BD-1?

    • @frederickj.7136
      @frederickj.7136 5 років тому

      Get *both* (!)... including the Manix 2 LW in BD1N.

  • @taylorcornell5924
    @taylorcornell5924 10 місяців тому

    After cutting myself three times with the native I will still take it over the bugout

  • @kirkmillerBO84
    @kirkmillerBO84 6 років тому +1

    Nice

  • @ShortcutReviews
    @ShortcutReviews 6 років тому

    I hate the occluded spydie-hole on the native.

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  6 років тому

      WOW! That's a word! My pretentiousness is rubbing off, I see!

  • @bigkyle7395
    @bigkyle7395 5 років тому +2

    I hate the colored scales, makes them look like cheap toys. Native just needs the deep carry clip.

  • @ge-8135
    @ge-8135 6 років тому +3

    Spyder Hole. /next...

  • @mkaz411
    @mkaz411 4 роки тому

    Bugout for me, and have 3 of them. Never cared for the looks of Spyderco knives.

  • @bombingbloke
    @bombingbloke 6 років тому

    Thats what she sad lol

  • @peterpuleo2904
    @peterpuleo2904 6 років тому

    Those doughnut holes on Spydercos are annoying to me, just my personal taste.

  • @Old_School69
    @Old_School69 3 роки тому

    I know this is an old video at this point, but what a joke. I'd carry my esse 4 in my front pocket before I'd carry the frn version of a spyderco. Isn't it odd that there was no category of customization. When one of the knives is pinned to a mudflap material for a handle and the other has thousands of options to customize it. It just seems like that is a subject you neglected because it would change the outcome. And you would think I was a bugout fanboy. I'm not, I hate my bugout because I wasted my money on it when I got a mini freek with the jade scales. The mini freek showed me what a cheap piece of crap the bugout is. But even being a cheap piece of crap, it isn't pinned to a mudflap. If you got any spyderco with g10 handles I'd agree with the spyderco winning, but not one of these things

    • @SliceyDicey
      @SliceyDicey  3 роки тому

      Look at the date. There weren't "thousands of options" for customization back then.

    • @Old_School69
      @Old_School69 3 роки тому

      @@SliceyDicey I get that, but it doesn't make the frn version any better. The fact that they are pinned together unable to be customized should have eliminated them from winning. Bugout is vastly overrated, but you can at least customize one to where it is at least visually appealing. I picked up an frn spiderco at a gun show and there is no way I would own that thing with no way of improving it. Yuck, it's not even like it's in the same bloodline as my manix 2. I hated the g10 grips that came on it, but 60 bucks later it is one of my favorite edc knives. I just feel like you vastly underestimated the customization ability in this review. I'm not trying to troll you or anything, I love your content, I just disagree with your results on this one.

  • @rustytygart405
    @rustytygart405 4 роки тому

    I have to admit I do admire a lot of benchmades designs they do make a premium knife ..... unfortunately I value my second amendment rights and more than their brand and with Spyderco in the world I really don’t need anything benchmade makes so I will never be giving benchmade a single dollar knowing that they will be passing a percentage of that money on to anti 2a politicians that will use this dollars to try an strip me and my countrymen of our god given rights

  • @BossMan_Jerm
    @BossMan_Jerm 4 роки тому

    Back lock 🤮🤮

  • @jediflip3239
    @jediflip3239 Рік тому

    Benchmades qc has gone so far downhill I will NEVER buy another. I'd rather carry an Ozark.