New Evidence Emerges in Donna Adelson’s Case

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  • @jbrimble1957
    @jbrimble1957 2 місяці тому +38

    Hello Donna & husband are extremely upset by the death sentence given to her son , life without parole, it’s a pity they didn’t have the same concerns about the actual death sentence given to their ex son in law ❤️

  • @angelalandgrebe6930
    @angelalandgrebe6930 2 місяці тому +23

    You have no idea how much I wish someone in my life was equivalently as obsessed with this case as I am

  • @jacquieconklin3543
    @jacquieconklin3543 2 місяці тому +37

    It says a lot that the older brother has nothing to do with his toxic family!!😮😮

  • @mariadzihan119
    @mariadzihan119 2 місяці тому +58

    Praying that arrogant "they aren't going to arrest me", Wendy gets what's coming to her
    She is the reason all of this happened. She's an actress and doesn't fool anyone.

    • @Katrina-qs2rl
      @Katrina-qs2rl 2 місяці тому +7

      I agree completely. Donna is the common thread throughout all of this. She instigated the whole thing.

    • @amills9261
      @amills9261 2 місяці тому +11

      Wendi has spent 10 years enjoying freedom.

    • @gingerwoo5589
      @gingerwoo5589 2 місяці тому +2

      SO FAR SHE IS.......

    • @christinecraze
      @christinecraze 2 місяці тому +3

      She should have house arrest until the last child turns 18, then jail for life

    • @FeliciaPastore
      @FeliciaPastore Місяць тому

      She's a very bad actress

  • @eileenvacheresse361
    @eileenvacheresse361 2 місяці тому +7

    It is wonderful that you are keeping this story up front and center. Praying for the repose of the beautiful soul of Dan Markel.

    • @mortalclown3812
      @mortalclown3812 2 місяці тому +2

      His sons will be 18 in the next few years, at which point they can get their name back, too.
      By then, they won't be in such a vacuum re: the truth of their father's murder. How terrible for them, regardless of what they hear or what other charges/convictions occur. They will always wonder about their mother's complicity in Dan's death.
      Rest in peace, Dan.

  • @janekreisman7051
    @janekreisman7051 2 місяці тому +111

    Donna signed and handed checks to Katherine Magbanua right there at the Adelson Institute, not at some coffee shop on the down-low. Harvey knew and Harvey needs to be prosecuted. He already has a contempt of court charge pending. He was aiding and abetting Donna's escape attempt.

    • @NancyDrew1
      @NancyDrew1 2 місяці тому +15

      Yep. Karm is right! He’s next!

    • @lh98
      @lh98 2 місяці тому +12

      How is it aiding and abetting if Donna was under no restrictions of leaving the country? Just as Rashbaum was able to discuss Donna leaving wasn’t a crime either because she had no indictment, arrest, or legal restrictions prior to her trying to fly to Vietnam. She was arrested at the airport after they decided to charge her to avoid her leaving but up until that point she had no lawful restrictions.

    • @MauriSky2437
      @MauriSky2437 2 місяці тому +9

      All the "dots" and evidence trails connect neatly, pointing to conspiracy and guilt.

    • @dowaliby1
      @dowaliby1 2 місяці тому +4

      @@NancyDrew1 If you're referring to the comment Karm posted during the show, she wasn't referring to Harvey being next; Karm was verifying that Harvey was pounding on the floor crying after his son got convicted of murder.

    • @janekreisman7051
      @janekreisman7051 2 місяці тому +5

      @@lh98 They were both named as co-conspirators and both caught contempt of court charged for skipping out on testifying at Charlie's trial.

  • @Susieq0408
    @Susieq0408 2 місяці тому +107

    With regard to Wendi’s limited immunity, Georgia has been skillfully selective in her questioning of Wendi to preserve the good stuff for her trial.

    • @tiahbawa5771
      @tiahbawa5771 2 місяці тому +20

      Of course, of course. Saving 'the best' for the last.

    • @Nonna0228
      @Nonna0228 2 місяці тому +10

      Agreed

    • @pauldalnoky6055
      @pauldalnoky6055 2 місяці тому +4

      No she hasn't, she's all over the Prescott dr trip

    • @mitchrc3
      @mitchrc3 2 місяці тому

      Wendi is a witness for the state mostly to introduce the emails about the divorce between her and Donna. These emails establish motive. How will they be introduced against Wendi?

    • @Susieq0408
      @Susieq0408 2 місяці тому +9

      @@pauldalnoky6055 the key word is “selective” and that would be Trescott. Also, my opinion.

  • @aalegalfocus
    @aalegalfocus 2 місяці тому +136

    Thank you for the shout out! Watching from the start on replay now. 🎉

    • @Sara_0137
      @Sara_0137 2 місяці тому +23

      Love you Judy❤

    • @urmysunshine030
      @urmysunshine030 2 місяці тому +23

      Judy is the best! So genuine! Love her!

    • @dbeazrn3934
      @dbeazrn3934 2 місяці тому +17

      Judy’s channel is incredible and she is such a beautiful & intelligent resource that I follow to support Justice for Dan Markel. Blessings to @aalegalfocus and to all of you. ❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️ MimiRN.

    • @norlavine
      @norlavine 2 місяці тому +12

      Love you too! Especially when you 'do Donna'. ♥♥♥

    • @RobinHood_62
      @RobinHood_62 2 місяці тому +9

      Asian american = the AA! I just hot that. I just thought you wantedto be first in the yellow pages listing! Doh!

  • @chicagocubsnorton9988
    @chicagocubsnorton9988 2 місяці тому +110

    This whole thing is horrific. Rest in Peace, Dan Markel.

    • @cathrionaaffleck2638
      @cathrionaaffleck2638 2 місяці тому +4

      Justice might be slow but it is coming. I hope all involved in this senseless murder are held to account. So sad for Dan, his boys and family, and friends.

    • @Quest4it
      @Quest4it 2 місяці тому +2

      Well Said!

    • @TeresaRobertson-yw8le
      @TeresaRobertson-yw8le 2 місяці тому

      I can't wait to see Wendi arrested. She was in on it from the very beginning!

  • @KatieCreek71
    @KatieCreek71 2 місяці тому +38

    The Judge is one of your best guests. His perspective is very different from the lawyer guests. You can tell he’s “ruling” on evidentiary issues instead of just telling viewers what the legal arguments would be or what they would say. It’s a refreshing point of view.

    • @tomdallas3690
      @tomdallas3690 2 місяці тому +6

      He has a great way of speaking, and even acknowledged another's take and said....good point, in a very classy and intelligent way, even though the judge's point was likely more correct. He is a solid guy all around. No arrogance at all, and he provides valuable info and insights.

  • @JillLovinger
    @JillLovinger 2 місяці тому +21

    Just seems like Wendi has had the most to gain from all this. She got rid of her oppressive mother, the dipshit brother, the husband she no longer wanted, the in laws she despises, AND got to keep the kids. Detectives love to ask, "Who had the most to gain?" Woooooow Wendi. Just wow. How your chip fell was impressive. I just gotta have faith that Georgia is saving that one last ace up her sleeve.

  • @lifepathnumbernine6607
    @lifepathnumbernine6607 2 місяці тому +130

    Donna seems to be blaming Wendi so to me that makes Wendi look even more guilty.

    • @thebeasters
      @thebeasters 2 місяці тому +31

      Wendi is guilty it's just getting the evidence.
      Her family doesn't randomly decide to murder her husband

    • @iveliserojas612
      @iveliserojas612 2 місяці тому +20

      Of course she was the one showing mom her divorce about Dan saying her mom talking down to him with he’s kids then she lies say she didn’t tell but send it to 12 ppl it ridiculous for ppl to take her side how would the killer know where he lives or going to the gym not only she went to father with her first attempt they took pic for alibi just like the tv and alibi to see ppl defend her it ridiculous she the only who got what she wanted

    • @LinaGenX
      @LinaGenX 2 місяці тому +11

      I see it more as Donna being mad Wendi is'nt happy about the great sacrifice Donna thinks she and her son made for Donna

    • @tiahbawa5771
      @tiahbawa5771 2 місяці тому +11

      It's Donna's words (and probably Charlie's too), that will sink Wendi.

    • @LinaGenX
      @LinaGenX 2 місяці тому +15

      @@lifepathnumbernine6607 I think Donna is mad Wendi don't appreciate what she and Charlie did

  • @zachsawyer-si4wt
    @zachsawyer-si4wt 2 місяці тому +23

    I was very shocked at the end when the judge said that he'd only give it a 50/50 chance that Wendi will be arrested. I am sure that I am not the only one that feels this way

    • @MyLinda1983
      @MyLinda1983 Місяць тому +1

      I thanks se wont because there is jo enough evidence.
      probably se Knew it but se did not insolvencia too much so Police does not fi d her suspicious but for sure she knew it

  • @Jacelyn-tn6mq
    @Jacelyn-tn6mq 2 місяці тому +33

    I totally agree with Jared regarding the "Now you're not guilty' line. The word 'now' is so important, and yeah, to me it was a dig claiming Wendi is, was, will always be guilty for taking part in planning Danny's death. I don't see Donna flipping on Wendi but when Donna is convicted, Charlie the mama's boy, will flip, hopefully, on Wendi. Donna's conviction will tear Charlie's heart to pieces and he will be pissed off and put some of the ownership on Wendi. Fingers crossed.

    • @caroliamurri3872
      @caroliamurri3872 2 місяці тому +10

      I agree! The "now" in that comment is very telling. I can't wait until Wendi is arrested and convicted!!

    • @Jacelyn-tn6mq
      @Jacelyn-tn6mq 2 місяці тому +7

      @@caroliamurri3872 Me too. I just hope they have enough evidence to arrest and convict her. We know she's guilty but Georgia has to prove it to a jury.

    • @sleepyjavanlangur
      @sleepyjavanlangur 2 місяці тому +7

      @@caroliamurri3872same. Hope they get the evidence needed to get her because we all know that her non-mafia family wasn’t going to unalive the father of her children w/o her consent. Her texts and emails to them aren’t “how could you do this” it’s “well I didn’t do anything wrong”

    • @iveliserojas612
      @iveliserojas612 2 місяці тому +2

      Yup he didn’t know about the book of her ex husband and the town she hated and to top she told Jeff of the joke and she told police about the joke he has to be mad because she set him up

    • @YIKESMF
      @YIKESMF 2 місяці тому +1

      I don't think any of them like thier mother.

  • @GlamGam1964
    @GlamGam1964 2 місяці тому +32

    I like this show. Great guests. Humor. Intelligence. Common sense.

  • @darrellhicks360
    @darrellhicks360 2 місяці тому +54

    If you have more than one person involved in a crime, you’re at risk of being caught.

  • @PH_1964
    @PH_1964 2 місяці тому +19

    Thank you all. I laughed out loud when you asked "how stupid can she/you be?"😂😂😂 Prison suits her very well. Wendy needs arresting 🤞🇦🇺 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @janekreisman7051
    @janekreisman7051 2 місяці тому +68

    'Charlie took the rap for you and now you're not guilty.' 'He's still protecting you." My interpretation.

    • @MiaWallace137
      @MiaWallace137 2 місяці тому +14

      💯

    • @salomehart8833
      @salomehart8833 2 місяці тому +29

      Yes, Charlie took the fall for his guilty AF sister and she doesn't even ask about him. No way this whole thing happened without Wendi knowing exactly what was about to happen.

    • @janekreisman7051
      @janekreisman7051 2 місяці тому +10

      @@salomehart8833 Without her "knowing?" Or without her crying and lying and getting Donna and Charlie worked up every day and setting up sweet Jeffrey Lacasse? Oh, and writing a book about it.

    • @m_christine1070
      @m_christine1070 2 місяці тому +4

      💯💯🎯

    • @Kelleigh88
      @Kelleigh88 2 місяці тому +3

      Exactly. It wasn't a question but a sarcastic statement.

  • @kristinakane7673
    @kristinakane7673 2 місяці тому +66

    I took a break from STS because I didn't watch the Karen Reed trial. However I see the Donna Adelson trial is ramping up so I am back. I saw STS on Vinnie/ Court TV.....WTG! 🎉😊

    • @Globelle
      @Globelle 2 місяці тому +7

      Same here! I truly only care about this case. I pray for complete Justice!

    • @shawnagunn9054
      @shawnagunn9054 2 місяці тому +6

      You missed a good one KR.

    • @MaTTheWish
      @MaTTheWish 2 місяці тому

      The Karen Read case is the only case that surpassed the Markel case. Karen Read is innocent and the answers are out there. But you have to patiently go through the evidence, lack of evidence and the trial and the truth slowly reveals itself like a blooming flower. I was extremely skeptical of a conspiracy and then slowly and methodically the truth blooms. Fascinating , can't unsee it now.

    • @dreita27
      @dreita27 2 місяці тому +5

      @@shawnagunn9054i didn’t know that trial was going to be so insane, so glad I started watching it blindly on trial day 1!

    • @shawnagunn9054
      @shawnagunn9054 2 місяці тому

      @dreita27 I know! I thought N.G. that whole P.D. etc. Corrupt!

  • @mufasasdaughter4831
    @mufasasdaughter4831 2 місяці тому +12

    I think they ALL knew Dan was gonna get killed and each one of them could have stopped it. So ALL four need locking up. GUILTY of the same crime.

  • @Shorkiemomfurever
    @Shorkiemomfurever 2 місяці тому +12

    These comments by Donna won’t be viewed alone. They’ll be viewed alongside her hateful emails where she clearly hates Dan and encourages her daughter to make his life miserable. It’s not just one thing that points to Donna,it’s a puzzle and the pieces all fit to spell guilty as hell.

  • @tiahbawa5771
    @tiahbawa5771 2 місяці тому +35

    If Wendi wasn’t involved, and if Harvey didn’t know, why did Harvey tell Donna not to report the bump to the police because that would scare Wendi and she would become distraught and on and on and on. Again in these same conversations between Donna and Charlie during the bump, Donna sings the usual refrain ‘we must protect Wendi’. Danny had been dead for 2 years at the time of the bump so what exactly were they protecting her from again at that point in time? Well, Charlie did ask Donna whether anybody had bothered Wendi yet. That was also during the bump.

    • @shirl974
      @shirl974 2 місяці тому +1

      What is the bump?

    • @Taylor_Redd16
      @Taylor_Redd16 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@shirl974 I've always wondered that too.

    • @johncumiskey672
      @johncumiskey672 2 місяці тому

      ​@@shirl974
      If you want to know !
      Look up Donna Adelson , The Bump ..

    • @johncumiskey672
      @johncumiskey672 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Taylor_Redd16
      Look up Donna Adelson , The Bump ..😮

    • @marylynch91
      @marylynch91 2 місяці тому

      @@Taylor_Redd16the bump was when the feds posed as a family member of one of Dans killers and handed Donna a note on the street and told her they needed money. They were trying to get them to reveal themselves after the bump on wiretaps

  • @tiahbawa5771
    @tiahbawa5771 2 місяці тому +31

    I think all that the statement means is that it’s because your brother covered up for you all these years that you are free now, and he is guilty. And you are ignoring us… etc. That is the context, people. Donna simply cannot accept the fact that Wendi is not around her, crying with her and talking to Charlie and blaming herself etc. As much as I hate Wendi, Donna deserves everything that comes to her.

    • @DirtyDiana01
      @DirtyDiana01 2 місяці тому +2

      That is the interpretation that you get. Not everyone else does. 🙄🤨

    • @tiahbawa5771
      @tiahbawa5771 2 місяці тому +6

      @@DirtyDiana01 I was going to respond and say next time, I will add 'I think'. Then I looked at my statement and sure enough it says "I think". Yes. That's my opinion. At least 7 people have agreed with me. That makes 8 of us.

    • @dimitrabouzalas3090
      @dimitrabouzalas3090 2 місяці тому +1

      I feel the same. Donna’s influence on the family has been enormous. Charlie saw what happened to his brother and realised the safest way is to use girls, never marry them. Wendi wasn’t free to find her own guy, she had to have Donna like a drone, steering the way. Wendi married a guy that had her mother’s approval, it was bound to collapse. The outfall of Donna is vast and deep.

    • @Lucysmama-vq4sx
      @Lucysmama-vq4sx Місяць тому

      ​@dimitrabouzalas3090 still wondering why wendlie married him and why Danny didn't back out when the adelsons disrespected Danny's religious requests at their wedding?? ( not Kocher) beginning of the end...so SAD

  • @smith899
    @smith899 2 місяці тому +25

    46:25 😳Holy 🐄!! What man would date a woman whose family has been convicted of killing the last husband??

    • @tupacalypse88
      @tupacalypse88 2 місяці тому +7

      some one who's suicidal

    • @smith899
      @smith899 2 місяці тому +6

      @@tupacalypse88 I was thinking someone who was so full of himself he thought they would never so that to him.

    • @ChiquitaBanana-si5qq
      @ChiquitaBanana-si5qq 2 місяці тому +8

      One that’s been conned and lived-bombed by a manipulative narcissist?

  • @Missyrocks53
    @Missyrocks53 2 місяці тому +22

    Great show. Amazing job getting those documents & making them easy to read and follow. 👍

  • @jeannielson7356
    @jeannielson7356 2 місяці тому +28

    All this shows is how narcissistic controlling and manipulative Donna is...She absolutely destroyed her children, except for the first who got out. Donna's just desserts is absolutely no communication to them, except there is no sign of guilt or grief...she's actually blooming in jail...psycopath.

    • @janekreisman7051
      @janekreisman7051 2 місяці тому +5

      Naw, she's just putting on a brave face, doing her best acting for the judge, and practicing her defense: "Oh God, that was a few years ago, I can't tell you, oh God, I don't remember." Mark her words.

    • @janekreisman7051
      @janekreisman7051 2 місяці тому

      @jeannielson7356 yeah, big rich fish, small pond. She'll get her @$$ kicked in prison.

  • @donhagerman4868
    @donhagerman4868 2 місяці тому +19

    "Best Show In Town" as always!!! Love the Judge he's so cool. Amazing to have him on the Show!! All the Best to you, COE and the Fam!! 🎉 🎊 🎉 🎊 💖👏

  • @VandyMas
    @VandyMas 2 місяці тому +11

    Watching the replay ❤ Appreciate @STS Nation, best guests, COE and chat🎉

  • @tiahbawa5771
    @tiahbawa5771 2 місяці тому +26

    If Wendi wasn’t involved, why is Charlie saying Wendi was scared from day one? Day one could be the day she was born or the day the crime was COOKED!

    • @JuliaK-H
      @JuliaK-H 2 місяці тому +1

      Oh😮 that's interesting... And looks terrible for them! can you point to when he said that?

    • @tiahbawa5771
      @tiahbawa5771 2 місяці тому

      @@JuliaK-H These were in phone conversations between Charlie and Donna during the FBI bump in 2016. The prosecution has all of these so it's nothing new. If you go back to Charlie's trial and watch the testimonies of the 2 detectives (laughing at myself, I've forgotten their names), there were so many slides shown in the courtroom - mostly phone conversations. Some were played in the courtroom. For others, you could only get the details if you go slide by slide and do your own transcript. It's a lot of work. I was on some of them for about 3 weeks and I gave up. I may have some patches of them in my email. Will dig it out and post it here. I posted them a number of times late last year or beginning this year. To give you a head's up, you can check Lawyer Lee's youtube page where she had a daily night show during Charlie's trial. She brought up a bit of this particular transcript on her show titled Day 5 (if I remember correctly). She did good summaries of each day's accounts.

    • @tiahbawa5771
      @tiahbawa5771 2 місяці тому +2

      @@JuliaK-H During the bump.

    • @JuliaK-H
      @JuliaK-H 2 місяці тому +3

      @@tiahbawa5771 thank you! Will have to go back and listen to the wire taps again. What a good catch, it's indeed very telling!

  • @raineydaygirl5970
    @raineydaygirl5970 2 місяці тому +4

    Remember; during the hot mic call…friend Susan was in the room…(husband in other room helping Harvey with paperwork)- Donna didn’t know where to turn for “extradition info./advice”…Susan asked Donna…”Would Wendi tell?” 😵‍💫

  • @kazzkizznz
    @kazzkizznz 2 місяці тому +27

    New Zealand here also. Love STS it's my daily fix!!!!

  • @tiahbawa5771
    @tiahbawa5771 2 місяці тому +12

    You know, in the weirdest way, that famous statement again, your brother protected you for years - now you are not guilty - almost comes across as if Donna was acknowledging that Charlie was indeed guilty and had he not covered up for Wendi, Wendi would have been in the same situation.

  • @Melanie_1224
    @Melanie_1224 Місяць тому +2

    Wendi is acting totally out of self preservation. Limiting her contact with her family is the smart move. Their inability to keep quiet is a big part of why they were both arrested. Wendi doesn't trust their judgment.

  • @illa5543
    @illa5543 2 місяці тому +15

    It’s a now,…you’re not guilt….. because Charlie has taken the fall and did not give up Wendi or say it was Wendi’s idea, plotting and planning for the murder

  • @kdash7
    @kdash7 2 місяці тому +8

    Too cheap to buy the round trip ticket! Cheapness will be the demise!😂

  • @mmorgan7918
    @mmorgan7918 2 місяці тому +28

    When you put the timeline out like that, it really shows how Georgia's been very strategic. With no statute of limitation on murder...maybe she's just waiting for the boys to turn 18 before she goes for Wendy.

    • @sarahdrummond6424
      @sarahdrummond6424 2 місяці тому +14

      That is too many years away!

    • @dbeazrn3934
      @dbeazrn3934 2 місяці тому

      @mmorgan7918 Respectfully - That would be another 5-7 years, I think, before Wendi would be held accountable. While the statute of limitations will never run out, IMHO, that would be way too long to wait to go after her. Also, Georgia Cappelman would lose any and all momentum that has been building up since Charlie Adelson was finally found guilty.
      I watched a fairly recent video (within the past 3-4 weeks) that attorney Carl Steinbeck shared in which he is fully convinced that Wendy will be arrested by the end of the year. Thus far, according to the opinions & observations from other attorneys, Carl Steinbeck has been absolutely spot on with each step that Georgia Cappelman & State Attorney Jack Campbell has made. I also recommend another video that Carl Steinbeck shared in which he shared his 100 reasons proving that Wendi Adelson was absolutely involved and will be found guilty. He also appeared on this channel, shared his list and received input from other attorneys, individuals. Many blessing to you and to you all!! ❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️

    • @janekreisman7051
      @janekreisman7051 2 місяці тому +8

      It's not up to her, but it is exquisite to watch Wendi lose her enmeshed co-conspirators, I mean her sociopathic family members, one by one, knowing it was all for her.

    • @m_christine1070
      @m_christine1070 2 місяці тому +7

      But didnt care about Katies children, or Charlies 5 yr old son?

    • @nicolaxoxo1
      @nicolaxoxo1 2 місяці тому +8

      And why let the kids continue to live with their father’s murderer?? Dan didn’t get to enjoy raising them and Wendi certainly shouldn’t, not raising her kids should be part of the punishment for her involvement in the murder

  • @Graciela.Feb28th
    @Graciela.Feb28th 2 місяці тому +3

    ❤❤ New here just found your channel! Loved the great presentation, intelligent and funny 😂 G'day from Melbourne Australia 😊

  • @avaleakeough8236
    @avaleakeough8236 2 місяці тому +7

    great great panel tonite thanks Sts

  • @susandickson8939
    @susandickson8939 2 місяці тому +10

    Please more of this deep dive into the documents x

    • @SurvivingTheSurvivor
      @SurvivingTheSurvivor  2 місяці тому +5

      We have another 30 graphics we’re building. Another show coming soon! ❤

  • @harolddull-jz5nx
    @harolddull-jz5nx 2 місяці тому +11

    Great show. I hope to see you in Tallahassee and get my copy of the book signed.

  • @Sandra-xf1dy
    @Sandra-xf1dy 2 місяці тому +5

    Happy birthday Joel. Greetings from down under (Australia) RIP Dan. Love to Ruth and family.

  • @Jsh465
    @Jsh465 2 місяці тому +3

    I think there is a lot because her mother intimates that Wendi has a lot to think about. What does she have to think about?? Her role ?

  • @MAArch-ec7se
    @MAArch-ec7se 2 місяці тому +4

    I’m impressed with the judge’s opinion and prospective. Great attorney; the judge is.

  • @elindemier
    @elindemier 2 місяці тому +28

    Notice how they never complain that Katie lied on the witness stand.

    • @JRoss1010
      @JRoss1010 2 місяці тому +16

      Not only is it an issue that she lied on the stand, she was dumb for doing it. They offered her immunity and the fact she didn’t take it is unbelievable. She’s where she belongs.

    • @elindemier
      @elindemier 2 місяці тому +2

      @@JRoss1010 so you’re saying she lied that Charlie is guilty and that Donna delivered money to Charlie. I’m surprised you’re defending the Adelsons.

    • @JRoss1010
      @JRoss1010 2 місяці тому +5

      @@elindemier NO. I’m saying she lied on the stand in her own trials. I am NOT defending the Adelsons. Don’t put words in my mouth.

    • @elindemier
      @elindemier 2 місяці тому +5

      @@JRoss1010 the content in tbe podcast was new evidence about donno’s messaging that included her messages complaining about all the factors that led to Charlie’s guilt. Donna and Charlie never complained that Katie lied on the witness stand about Charlie’s involvement. When I make that point you challenged it saying Katie was lying. The misunderstanding is all on your part. And it’s true they never said Katie was lying about Charlie’s involvement in all their complaints about the conviction. That’s a major factor because Katie is the only witness that puts Donna in the conspiracy prior to Charlie supposedly telling his mom it was double extortion. Her testimony that Donna and Harvey dropped off the money to Charlie puts both Donna and Harvey right in the middle.

    • @JRoss1010
      @JRoss1010 2 місяці тому +5

      @@elindemier Well I apologize for misunderstanding your vague comment. We agree that Katie connects Donna and Charlie, but I also think there's more evidence that connects them. Like "probably involves the two of us," on the wiretap. And "this TV costs $5K," etc. There's much more than just Katie, but yes, it's quite obvious that they are grasping at straws with their complaints.

  • @MAArch-ec7se
    @MAArch-ec7se 2 місяці тому +5

    👏Luv the Judge OBJECTIVITY!! 💯I appreciate his FRESH take on the info presented, instead of mimicking the rest of the panels opinion. Perhaps because he’s from Massachusetts, where objectivity is appreciated. I couldn’t believe Jarrod, the other atty attacked him, saying implying he said Tallahassee jurors are bad people. Jarod appears insecure, cuz the judge made the most COGENT LEGAL ARGUMENT. 💯

  • @MiaWallace137
    @MiaWallace137 2 місяці тому +9

    Thank you for this informative show.

  • @chadlynch6992
    @chadlynch6992 2 місяці тому +15

    Wendy has thrown the whole family Out !!!! Wendy doesn't care,,, self preservation !!!

    • @Katrina-qs2rl
      @Katrina-qs2rl 2 місяці тому +4

      Wendi is very self-centered. It's all about her. Everything else is secondary, including her parents and brother.😢

  • @RobinHood_62
    @RobinHood_62 2 місяці тому +14

    I get sick thinking about the boys being exclusively exposed to dispicable Adelson influence.
    Some day theboys will tragically understand what their mother and her family has done and I trust their markel dna will prevail

  • @dimitrabouzalas3090
    @dimitrabouzalas3090 2 місяці тому +5

    The level of arrogance and entitlement of Donna Adelson and her attorney is frightening.

  • @Katrina-qs2rl
    @Katrina-qs2rl 2 місяці тому +4

    I'd just like to remind everyone that Donna may have instigated this. Donna pressured Wendi to marry Danny, later changing her mind and agitating for a divorce. Donna was incredibly possessive of the grandkids and actively agitated for banning the Markel's from seeing them. It's been years since the Markels have seen them. Donna may have gone to Charlie for help.

  • @JENN7238
    @JENN7238 2 місяці тому +15

    I took it the text as Charlie took the wrap so you can be not guilty.

  • @patriciaseybold7396
    @patriciaseybold7396 2 місяці тому +1

    DAMN! Why am recently not getting live notifications?? You guys are my favs. Watching replay now.

  • @SS11660
    @SS11660 2 місяці тому +2

    "Now you are not guilty" because your brother and lawyer protected you.

  • @mdesm2005
    @mdesm2005 2 місяці тому +3

    keep sending pictures of the sister having a good time as a free person to the brother in jail. Sooner or later ...

  • @DL-cs6fz
    @DL-cs6fz 2 місяці тому +5

    Don’t you guys listen to the jailhouse calls. Donna wanted to give Wendi the info and power over their properties, finances,wills, trusts set up for the children. Of course, they thought Wendi would be the one to take over when they left. I’m sure their heads were spinning when Wendi couldn’t give them a hug, comfort, support, or help with finances. They sacrificed for years to take care of Wendi and she turned her back on them completely.

  • @Tami-l3d
    @Tami-l3d 2 місяці тому +13

    The bigger problem is that Dan Rashbaum represented Charlie and is now representing Donna. I’m surprised the judge allowed this.

  • @janetteradtke9010
    @janetteradtke9010 2 місяці тому +13

    Great info

  • @joannaellingson9403
    @joannaellingson9403 2 місяці тому +1

    I was also born on my parents' anniversary, which also happens to be Valentine's Day!❤️

  • @HerbieCassidy
    @HerbieCassidy 2 місяці тому +8

    as long as they didn't tell others they could have flown out of the country on a private flight without risk

  • @T.Hang11
    @T.Hang11 2 місяці тому +3

    Only 34 minutes in..great panel as always!!! Thank you!!! 😊
    I think if Wendi’s text messages to her mom were presented..hypothetically at Wendi trial..jurors will probably question why she doesn’t want to talk about it if she’s not guilty..that will raise possibly some questions in jurors mind..just trying to think like a potential juror..

  • @whatareuthinking1
    @whatareuthinking1 2 місяці тому +12

    Really good show Joel

  • @BestAntiq
    @BestAntiq 2 місяці тому +3

    Awesome & honorable speaker & guests!!!
    Thank you!

  • @Tami-l3d
    @Tami-l3d 2 місяці тому +7

    I’m betting they ALL used burner phones that were destroyed at some point.

    • @Katrina-qs2rl
      @Katrina-qs2rl 2 місяці тому

      I agree, though I think some of them were recovered.

  • @Saltygirl29
    @Saltygirl29 2 місяці тому +6

    What a great panel and great discussion. ❤

  • @surgedeb
    @surgedeb 2 місяці тому +3

    Watched the replay. Good show!

  • @janicescott6569
    @janicescott6569 2 місяці тому +3

    Excellent show! Joel, you are sooo funny. Your wife has never yelled at you! Lol

  • @andreaskurt5757
    @andreaskurt5757 2 місяці тому +4

    arrest wendi & harvey now

  • @DL-cs6fz
    @DL-cs6fz 2 місяці тому +1

    You can see the love and excitement in their faces, their eyes, in the early photos at the beginning of their marriage. When the “glow” wears off, and your differences come out, they didn’t survive.

  • @judesjubees
    @judesjubees 2 місяці тому +7

    This is not ‘new’ information; it came out previously.

  • @amills9261
    @amills9261 2 місяці тому +6

    There is no believable argument for Donna’s text to Wendi. Your attorney took good care of you. Your brother has been convicted, now you are not guilty. Everyone is suffering because of you.

  • @goldielion-s7f
    @goldielion-s7f 2 місяці тому +4

    Judge Jay Blitzman! At last, a guest whose bookcase looks like mine 😉📚 He's great! Please have him on again.

  • @MrsJackson-tc6io
    @MrsJackson-tc6io 2 місяці тому +1

    “Truth revealed” is AMAZING. I highly recommend his channel

  • @WriterProfessor
    @WriterProfessor 2 місяці тому +3

    Wendi’s text message to Donna (the “I’m not responsible” narcissistic one) also seems to suggest that her mom is disappointed that Wendi didn’t better accommodate Charlie’s story somehow on the witness stand. Thoughts?

  • @aprilbrooks7114
    @aprilbrooks7114 2 місяці тому +3

    Who wouldn’t think that a parent wouldn’t absolutely lose it when their son got that guilty verdict? Yes, Donna tried to illicit some humanity from her daughter but of course Harvey probably lost it.

  • @matthewnewton8812
    @matthewnewton8812 2 місяці тому +12

    I’m so sick of less than bright people saying Charlie is going to “flip on” Wendi. Or Wendi is going to “flip on” Donna.
    There’s no such thing as “flipping on” a single individual. That’s not how it works. If you want to make a deal the first thing you do is proffer a statement to the state. If you have useful and pertinent information- and they think you’re credibly telling the truth- then they may offer you a deal in exchange for your COOPERATION. That means cooperation in all things, during every trial, against everyone.
    You don’t get to pick and choose who you’re willing to testify against. You can’t say, “well, I’ll testify against my brother but not against my mother.” EH. NOPE. Not gonna work. Your agreement with the state will compel your testimony against mom, and dad, and Charlie, and Santa Claus for good measure. If you don’t show up for trial, or your trial testimony differs meaningfully from your proffer, the state will reneg on the agreement faster than you can say “krausverweitzenarbeitsberung”.

  • @outandabout4812
    @outandabout4812 2 місяці тому +6

    Rashbaun is below any standard for a lawyer. He should have advised charlie to take a plea.

  • @Gingerthoughts
    @Gingerthoughts 2 місяці тому +3

    As a non-lawyer, I find this judge’s opinion about the value of the text messages from Donna and Wendi very interesting. How are they not of any use when there were a lot of much less incriminating text messages used in the Charlie Adelson trial? they would in mho still create a lot of context…

  • @CharlesTheOpinionatedPug
    @CharlesTheOpinionatedPug 2 місяці тому +4

    Oh I’ve been waiting for this

  • @veterinarymarketing
    @veterinarymarketing 2 місяці тому +4

    I cant believe that horrible woman Wendy still has total custody of the kids. I hope there is a way to make her pay for what she did to Dan and then his parents and the kids.

  • @Dan_RashBum
    @Dan_RashBum 2 місяці тому +1

    All because two narcissists couldn’t keep their mouths shut!
    Donna is a narcissistic mother and Wendi was the golden child and followed Mom. If Wendi was unhappy, Donna could not stand it. These two narcissists are co-dependent and bring out the worst in each other.
    Older brother Rob recognized the danger of Donna and Wendi and pulled away. In spite of being the best member of his family they considered him the “black sheep” because he was the most difficult to manipulate. He traded his birth families support for pursuing becoming a good person and creating a happy family for his wife and children.
    Charlie was the family clown. He was not despised like Rob by his malevolent mother and sister, but he was not respected a wannabe Fredo .Charlie’s narcissism presented itself as a spoiled frat boy who does not believe consequences are real. He lives in a delusional world. He was able to pursue a life of hedonism pedo lifestyle due to the success of the family business. He had desperate friends who he fed cocaine to and took on pedo vacations.
    While Donna and Wendi took pride in their superficial facade of judgmental perfection, charlie used his narcissism to be “a bad boy” and “above the law”. He was a playboy who enjoyed sex tourism and conspicuous consumption and pretended to be a smart insider trader. He was a low quality dentist who introduced himself as an “oral surgeon”. Calling himself a regular dentist was not enough. He had a huge but fragile ego. His family considered him an undisciplined man child, but a funny bad boy. They enjoyed that he could do and say the things they could not, because he did not have a fake image of virtue to protect.
    When Wendi’s marriage inevitably failed, she and Donna blamed Dan for all of their unhappiness. Once Donna and Wendi lost the ability to manipulate Dan, they hated him. Wendi and Donna loved to antagonize Dan and the boys were pawns they could use to aggravate him. Dan was the opposite of the Addelson’s. He was genuine, smart, hard working, and he was a capable defender of his boys from their grandmother and mother.
    When Donna and Wendi could not manipulate and destroy Dan’s life, they decided Dan needed to die.
    Charlie suddenly found himself in a position where he could gain the respect and approval of his mother and sister by solving their “Dan problem”. He could make himself useful and do something they could not. He could play the part of a rich and ruthless crime boss.
    Charlie was never competent. As a dentist he lost a massive law suit for his malpractice (185k) and was sanctioned by the dental board. He had coasted on his families corrupt connections and help. Now he had the opportunity to be the family hero.
    Fortunately Charlie is as arrogant and conceited as he is inept and incompetent. He planned a bungling and amateurish crime that has uncovered the evil of his family. That he will spend the rest of his life in prison is well deserved. That Donna is currently sitting in jail is delightful.
    Harvey is the next shoe to drop followed by Wendi . They just need her one last time to lie and bury herself deeper. Harvey and her will be found guilty of accessory to murder.
    Wendi’s lawyers are already prepping her for her arrest. They know it’s not an IF but WHEN.
    Wendi has a team of people, probably some on her defense team, that are deliberately spreading misinformation. Things like "the prosecution doesn't believe they have enough evidence to convict Wendi", or "Wendi's arrest is unlikely and she may not have known about Charlie and Donna's actions".
    Another lie that's being spread is that Wendi's derivative use immunity will prevent her from prosecution. The prosecution will charge her with perjury, and I would be shocked if they didn't, and this would effectively make all her testimony admissable against her.
    One thing I can guarantee is she watches every Fanci Fiction video that comes out to help her prep her defense.

  • @DL-cs6fz
    @DL-cs6fz 2 місяці тому +2

    Donna normally would have expected her daughter to be there for them emotionally. She and Harvey would have expected comfort and support.

  • @marshalldove8762
    @marshalldove8762 2 місяці тому +3

    Great show 😊

  • @jackiefelts8396
    @jackiefelts8396 2 місяці тому +2

    If I had nothing to do with the conspiracy I would not want anything to do with my family if they planned and killed someone. Sick people

  • @cindariley7315
    @cindariley7315 2 місяці тому +5

    What about the two boys??? They have to be sick over the family killing their Dad?? Theses boys are older and they can put 2 and 2 together on their sick Mother also. Those poor kids !!! May Wendi get her Karma.

  • @HerbieCassidy
    @HerbieCassidy 2 місяці тому +5

    #34 call, phone call from jail possibly Donna thought she hung up, she is reading a text W sent her, Donna responded "yes you were "

  • @janedixon8491
    @janedixon8491 2 місяці тому +3

    I’m back now that Karen Reed trial has left the building. Thank goodness. I missed y’all.

  • @Gotursix
    @Gotursix 2 місяці тому +16

    They said Charlie saved what’s up stuff in his cloud

    • @tiahbawa5771
      @tiahbawa5771 2 місяці тому

      Yes. Not everything. Georgia had some previously. Hopefully, she found some more.

  • @patriciaseybold7396
    @patriciaseybold7396 2 місяці тому +2

    Ya know what? I despise FB. Jared, I’m glad you don’t give a s**T abt princess Wendi following you on FB. Jared, you’re so, so much better than that, and I salute you.

  • @gkolluru
    @gkolluru 2 місяці тому +12

    Mentour Lawyer has great coverage of this material, which he procured.

    • @SurvivingTheSurvivor
      @SurvivingTheSurvivor  2 місяці тому

      We haven't watched any of his recent shows but if you haven't checked him out-- you definitely should! He knows this case really well and is local so I'm sure he has tons of depth and perspective. There are many channels covering the case and hoping for Justice for Dan. It's great that people all over the world are finally learning about the case and that we're all getting to know who Dan was and why telling this story is so important. Thanks for the comment. And check out the other channels, too. Xx COE

  • @demiloca
    @demiloca 2 місяці тому +1

    The most damning line is “your lawyer took very good care of you.” Even alone or with the prior sentence “now you are not guilty” is sarcastic. Sarcastic because she knows Wendy is guilty. Then again, “your brother protected you for years” is maybe even more damning.

    • @demiloca
      @demiloca 2 місяці тому

      Wendy’s response to Donna’s text tells you clearly what Donna meant. Even Wendy thought her mom was saying she was guilty such that she had to defend herself as “not guilty.”

  • @HerbieCassidy
    @HerbieCassidy 2 місяці тому +5

    Donna responds to W saying" her lawyer told her not to -----,,---, Donna says she herself talked to the lawyer, and he said I didn't tell her that,,, I left blank what W says her lawyer told her cause there are plenty people interested in this case who know and can fill it in

  • @lydialutz
    @lydialutz 2 місяці тому +3

    Anyone have a 30 second summary of the new evidence? I would love to watch this show but i dont have time.

  • @gingerwoo5589
    @gingerwoo5589 2 місяці тому +8

    Did the husband visit her?? Ever?? Hmmm

  • @stevenkarras3490
    @stevenkarras3490 2 місяці тому +4

    Now this is a bright group !

  • @joycesinclair9397
    @joycesinclair9397 Місяць тому +1

    I think Donna needed to do her research on visas to Vietnam before she decided to go there. I travel to Vietnam at least annually and so have looked at visas every which way. To buy a one way ticket was the most stupid thing I have ever heard.

    • @FeliciaPastore
      @FeliciaPastore 26 днів тому

      This is the same woman who 'washed" the money....
      Sigh

  • @Tami-l3d
    @Tami-l3d 2 місяці тому +2

    YES! Please continue with this Goya (May be misspelled).

  • @jannasmith3275
    @jannasmith3275 2 місяці тому +1

    I dont know why everyone always seems to think its out of the realm of possibility that donna would never flip on her precious spawn, Wendi. She's such a spiteful, control freak, who literally had ZERO ISSUES with having Danny off'd to make sure she had full control of having those boys... if Wendi pisses her off enough and she thinks that Wendi doesn't care about what they've done for her, I wouldn't put it past Donna to stick it to Wendi and try to get herself free and Wendi locked up and then once again she has the boys to herself again... all about control with her.

  • @lindamacey981
    @lindamacey981 2 місяці тому +7

    QUESTION Did Wendi receive the funds from Dan Markel's life insurance policy? If so does she have to return the funds since her family is/will be guilty of plotting his murder?

    • @anjanean
      @anjanean 2 місяці тому +3

      I might be wrong but it was to his mother.. for her to help support the boys

    • @astrialindah2773
      @astrialindah2773 2 місяці тому +1

      Since Wendy was the beneficiary, it's only if she is convicted of his murder that she won't get those funds or has to repay them..... She can't be penalized for what someone else does.....

  • @MarthaHannah3851
    @MarthaHannah3851 2 місяці тому +2

    Good show, great guests!

  • @charlieTexasgirl
    @charlieTexasgirl 2 місяці тому +21

    I'm coming in late. No disrespect. Is the judge kidding ?? Of course Georgia will absolutely use this stuff. Wendi's pathetic text is so scripted legally it's pitiful. .a crapload of BS.. jurors aren't stupid. They'll see right thru that. ....thankfully you don't have several guests saying Wendi won't be charged. That's infuriating to hear that. Thank God Handsome Joel said that this week.Thank you Joel!❤

    • @donnaemmi3003
      @donnaemmi3003 2 місяці тому +3

      Well said !!!

    • @JRoss1010
      @JRoss1010 2 місяці тому +8

      The judge was saying that the defense will work to keep it out as hearsay. Unless the prosecution can figure out a way to get around that it could be excluded. Of course…if Wendi testifies then she has the ability to be cross examined on it, so…😊

    • @tmhamer3086
      @tmhamer3086 2 місяці тому +1

      Tim Jenson has been saying the whole time he didn’t think that Wendi will be charged. It’s not an absolutely crazy thing to think. If the state doesn’t think they have enough to convict her they won’t. I am 50/50 but I really hope they find something and are able to arrest and convict her. She was pretty smart about the communication- remember she was in the legal field and has had an attorney for a while.

    • @charlieTexasgirl
      @charlieTexasgirl 2 місяці тому

      @tmhamer3086 look at carl stienbecks 100 reasons wendi will be charged... there's so my head circumstantial evidence against her it's ridiculous. If toy want her charged read it and listen to Carl a great atty ...He says she WILL BE CHARGED

    • @jukker95
      @jukker95 2 місяці тому +1

      I would be willing to bet that Wendy is not charged. The case against her will be entirely circumstantial, and the defense will have plausible explanations for the most of telling pieces of evidence. I believe she was definitely involved but she has been very clever to separate herself from the killing except for her impulsive drive by the crime scene.