Shin Megami Tensei V Vengeance | Cut PLAYABLE Goddess of Chaos 1st Form
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Avoid this video if you haven't completed the game yet and do not want to get spoiled:
As some may know, in the original game they cut Taos Goddess of Creation form as a playable demon from the game. And she still remains in data to this day. In a interview from the games director he mentions that they cut Yoko Hiromine from the original version of the game during development. And behold: Inside the files of the original switch version we can find the following in the devil asset table literally proving this is the case:
"366_尋峯ヨーコ（カオスの女神_第一形態）※未使用？",
"367_尋峯ヨーコ（カオスの女神_第二形態）※未使用？",
Translation:
“366_Yoko Hiromine (Goddess of Chaos_First Form) *Unused?” ,.
“367_Yoko Hiromine (Goddess of chaos_second form)*Unused?” ,
In Vengeance they added all those assets back in. The only thing the switch version still contains besides some of this ID stuff is the sound cue sheets. Yokos first form slot has been overwritten with her second form. Leaving the second form slot abandonded/in dummy state in this version. From this we can gather that they possibly never intended to have Yokos 1st form playable in Vengeance but rather this data was part of the original game before they cut Taos & Yokos first form as playable demons.
They very likley had Yoko in some form already implemented on the original switch version as the debug party setups include both Yokos and Taos for testing.
For this video I made the game load what they made for Yokos 1st form over the one we get (NPC data + UI graphics). Data wasn‘t replaced so this showcases the assets as they are.
HUGE UPDATE:
Rewrote the entire description with major new info, please read it again.
I also made the mod I made for this video available here:
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Kind of funny they said they cut Yoko Hiromine from the original game, kind of like how she was cut out of the universe by god supposedly during the canon of creation.
never thought about this, amazing parallel haha
The goddess form was the weirdest thing in the original SMT V and felt super underutilized.
I figured they'd actually revisit the concept for Vengeance but nope, even less utilized. They introduced a whole new form for Yoko that gets like a minute of screentime. At least Tao's was part of an overly long exposition dump in the original.
I'm glad they designed/made this form because it looks pretty cool imo but yeah its a shame both of those goddess forms went so underutilized. Especially given how much detail and care and put into these designs.
@@LuthuxNoxYT They do look neat but they literally serve no purpose other than to further dehumanize Tao as a character.
And Yoko has the same form despite keeping her will and memories in tact because... Uhh... The Kool-Aid man is red.
It's just one of those things you know was a late minute add that didn't have time to get fleshed out (the animations prove that fact... And Goddess-Yoko even has some unique animation going on when she uses Primordial Chaos, notice her wings?) so they just feel so bizarre given how late they show up. Just, appears and then does basically nothing.
@@DMSwordsmaster I just found out some huge info, re-read the description again please. This explains a lot
I think all we know about Tao form 1 is that it's supposedly Astarte but ofc she's never called this and the implication is only legible when looking at old unused demon unit data and seeing that Tao form 1 has wings and horns. Which is part of Astarte's depictions in mythology.
I've heard that Amaterasu is compared to Astarte in VV's script now too? (Would make sense if my hunch is right here since red Tao does have motifs of Amaterasu, mainly the magatama and sun headpiece) Presumably somewhere in the orochi sidequest in daat 3 but I honestly wasn't paying attention to that part so whoopsiedaisy!!
@@ils4844 Yeah if Tao is in your party when you initiate the Orochi quest, when Koshimizu is talking about how Amaterasu couldn't be revived due to her knowledge suddenly being forced into a unique being which essentially erased Amaterasu from existence, and the camera pans over to Tao who remains suspiciously quiet while Koshimizu looks straight at her. Tao was likely supposed to be Amaterasu's knowledge but then lol Mandala system and goddess of creation nonsense.
I adore their goddesses form
Also, thinking over it, maybe they just cut it because there wasn't a decent way to incorporate it? It probably wasn't intended to be a power-up and seems more like a cosmetic difference when the throne system activates to do something... and removing the human faces would be kind of annoying.
Do you have the interview where they mentioned Yoko was cut? Also, why didn't anyone find her data beforehand in the OG SMTV?
Why didn't anyone find it before? Well its easier to find something if you know what you should look for, my guess. Heres the interview: personacentral.com/smtvv-developer-interview-full/