Simple Bolt On Ford Model A Hydraulic Brake Conversion
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2022
- In the last few videos Matt got the engine installed, and the steering sorted. Next on the list is to install a hydraulic brake system. One of the large obstacles when installing hydraulic or "juice" brakes in a Model A frame is having a location to mount the pedals. Originally the pedals mounted to the transmission of the stock transmission, and the later v8 cars had pedals mounted to the frame. There are a few different ways to add the hydraulic brakes, but today we are going to be using Old Yankee Speeds bolt in kit. The kit includes all the brackets to mount the pedals to the transmission similar to a stock Model A. Matt and Steve knocked out this install in no time and the Roadster Pickup Shop Truck is on its way to being road worthy this summer!!
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Can't wait to see it drive.
This is such a cool project! That kit worked great! I really enjoy this type of video.
Moon is a beautiful Puppers who loves his Dad and that is a wonderful fact. Thanks for the great information Matt.
Take care
Donnie
It is good that a company like Yankee is producing parts to make building a hot rod of this era less challenging. Another good video!
I like these videos showing you advanced regular guys installing aftermarket gear. When the makers do videos, it's often with pristine stuff under ideal environments. Old Yankee is pretty smart to be allowing you guys to install and promote their gear - it also holds their feet to the fire to make a product that works as advertised! I can't wait to see the shop truck go and stop under it's own power! Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Never expected this build to come along so quickly! Having the extra help around saves you time and labor.
Once you get old enough for bifocals, you will start doing all your underneath work on jacks or the lift! You cannot get your head far enough away to use the distance part, and you can't tilt your head back enough to see through the reading part. The human skull simply cannot dent the concrete enough to position the eyes to see!
Oh I know all about that I'm still going under cars at 77 years old but its the under dash stuff that really upsets me ...I even asked my eye Dr. to Rx me some glasses that I can see shit 6 inches from my nose!
Coming from just finishing the old Vern way of going with the 32K and pedals, this kit solves all the problems I had to deal with. The clutch fork arm in particular. The factory arm is too short and requires heavy foot pressure. The kit I see addressed that with a longer arm. It's nice to see the other way of doing things. Wish I had known about the kit.
Thanks Matt!!!!!!!!
Another great tutorial and walk thru of the build process! Go Iron Trap! Keep moving forward! Can't wait to see the shop truck on the road!
Great little project video, I sure wish I was putting one together.
Morning Matt, Steve & Moon, the shop truck will be up & running soon...great video!! Be safe!!! God Bless!!!
Not much for kits usually. Sooner make it my self. But for that application a good thing. Your car is much modified that caused the problem.
For linishing that shaft you have a lathe!
And the job seems to be Moon approved!
That’s a really nice bolt on kit. Thanks for showing how it goes together.
I heard that comment and... you're never too old. 😏 Enjoying watching this come together. 👍
Nice kit and looks like easy install. The OCD in me would make me trim off the clutch pedal to match the brake pedal in appearance, but then, that's probably why it takes me forever to finish a build. In any event, a very cool project and you're doing a great job with it.
I've got to agree with you, it made me cringe when the pedal pad was cut off like that. With the length of arm on that pedal it would have been so easy to just tweak it to miss the steering column.
You dont have OCD...
Like this truck more every time I see it. Good to see you take your time and do it right.
You could have also used a brake cylinder hone on the fork side, would have been faster + dead round vs sanding the shaft
Lot of people bitching about you choosing to lay on the ground.. Sometimes it's better than reaching over your head. Glad you're using a dual master cylinder
It’s the downside of having 18 cars and shooting videos for UA-cam.. sometimes stuff needs to stay on the lift while waiting on parts or time to finish a project.
I use an old garden chaise cushion as a floor mat. It's made weatherproof and shaped to fit a human head and torso. They work great and you recycle the working part of something headed for the garbage otherwise! Plus it folds for easy storage in a small trunk! Great video, I was a little doubtful when you dragged that thing out of its resting place, but now I'm a believer!
If you run into a problem like that clutch fork, again, use an old 3-stone brake hone - they're perfect for jobs like that.
Very Kool Kit Matt
He ha all looking good truck is coming along grate job guys love it see you on the next one from steve c from state Oregon
Great video Matt!!! Great products as well!!!! Thanks for sharing!!!! I LOVE THIS PROJECT!!! THANKS FOR SHARING!!!
Laughed over the naming of your "Slim Eastwood" grinder, until I realised, what you meant. X-D
Very cool,, moon wanted to be the only one on camera this time it seemed great video ty Steve
Looking good Matt!
Nice work! It’s fun hanging out in your shop! RWB
Love this project
Nice work!
Cool kit, looks like we could use it for 32-38 cars with a little torching to the pedals, I like it!
Very Nice
Looks good 👍
😁 "The little piece that goes through the pedal" is called a 'clevis'. Nice work!
Not scripted. Sometimes it’s hard to do this stuff off the cuff!
Can’t wait to do this to my hotrod ❤
Sweet ! I like that you installed it first to check fit , before modifying it for finish . As with the new shaft & original fork for the throw out bearing , not all are the same exact thing . Well done ! Some lines & fluid parts , it will have brakes . Nice build , guys ! Can't wait to see it rolling down the road !
This is great
Like somebody else said I would have used a brake cylinder hone then i would know there would no be any flat spots like you could get just sanding the shaft , but everybody has their own way that works for them .
Awesome content....
I like this project ....👌👌
Reckon you could do with some sort of car lift so you don’t have to be crawling around on the floor…🙂
Have a good weekend guys.
Except there’s other cars on the lifts already with things being done to them..
Is that sanding going to change the way it fits in the bell maybe should of use a brake hone on the fork
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Adding a 1/2"npt "inspection hole" might allow that rivet to be removed in the car. Put the cross shaft in the freezer for a few hours.
Inspection/assembly hole is a good idea but a pipe plug is tapered to a point it could split the housing if a stainless or cast plug is over tightened. A regular thread would serve the purpose.
Great work, coming along, you need some LED lights I have some fold out ones that fit on an old camera tripod cost me $29 AUD
We have some. Sometimes hard to get everything jammed in when working.
Neat kit from Old Yankee. One question how do you access the m/c reservoir to fill it with brake fluid?
Can cut an access hole in the floor under the seat or fill from underneath.
Vern Tardel makes a 32 crossmember kit with a fabricated replica for A's and Bs
Do they make one for 35 to 40 Ford frame??!?
Anyone want to estimate how many times that clutch pedal has been pressed to get worn that smooth?!?!
You could have used a simple homemade inside sanding tool with a rod that has a slit sawed in one end, into which you put a piece of emery cloth. Chuck it up in a drill and ream out the clutch arm and bell housing until the rod fits.
Multiple ways to achieve this but the time it would take to prepare that I was able to sand it by hand and fit perfect.
You guys need a couple of creepers! Laying on the floor (even on cardboard) will make an old man out of you fast! My dad (Chief Mechanic/Service Manager) made sure every mechanic in the Ford shop had a Ford logo creeper to use.
Creepers sit too high and then you have to jack the vehicle way up in the air. Or it always catches on pebbles on the floor and you can’t slide. More of a pain in the ass than good in my experience.
@@IronTrapGarage I have a creeper that raises only requires 1.5 additional inches to get me under the car. The cones off of old tapered wheel bearings, placed big side up around the creeper wheels and just sliding on the floor will push away rust chips, pebbles, tools and air hoses.
If the throwout shaft fits in the bellhousing bosses, why not use a brake cylinder hone in the fork to get it to fit the shaft better? That way it would not affect the shaft to bellhousing bearing fit....
The amount it needed was very minor everything still fit tight.
8:02 Why didn't you hone out the fork ? To me that would have been the easier route to go.
Love the kit but not seeing it on old yankee's web site. Is there a part number?
The kit goes live on www.millworkshotrod.com this week
Open Drive? With the pedal set up like that would you still need the anti judder rods from the chassis to the trans?
Closed drive
Gas pedal's gonna be tight in the old T.
It’s a model a. And it has the same room as a model a has from stock..
What year Transmission are you using? Craig from Melbourne Florida
You could have put your shaft in the freezer for a few hours and when you were ready to put it together heat the fork up in an oven, the shaft will Schrenk in the freezer and the fork would expand in the heat of the oven which would allow it to slide together without sanding the shaft. After they would return to normal temperature you would have a super tight fit.
Right but then the shaft wouldn’t rotate in the bushings like it’s supposed to do…
I have a seminar set up but my transmission is f1 pickup open drive shaft. Would this kit work with it ?
Regards
Lem
Yes it works with 35-39 transmissions both car & light truck
With that kit, are the pedals going to rock side to side with engine torque or is the engine & trans bolted "hard" to the chassis?
Even with a little side movement, would the pedal hit the steering column? I could not see the clearance in the video so just asking.
All in all, a nice tidy package!
Cheers,
The small side to side movement wouldn’t cause an issue. Stock model a pedals are mounted the same way.
@@IronTrapGarage i was wondering too. thanks for explaining.
Quick question are the stock model A pedals cast iron or steel? Need to know if I can weld mine to a steel aftermarket bracket
Steel. I relocated the small lever on mine room the the top to the bottom. So I don't need all that linkage on a brake system
@@essentialjudge2279 thanks this is good news now I can weld my original pedals to my aftermarket pedal assembly I’m working with wich will not only look better they will actually clear the back of my engine
Hey Matt,
A subject came up last evening. Any update on the Ardun V8?
Nope. Waiting my turn.
@@IronTrapGarage I was enlightening a young man about the Ardun heads. He was familiar with the flathead V8 and is now very interested in these engines.
Mike, on your trip out to Oregon, I saw you using your phone flashlight while picking. Don’t you have a good small flashlight that laminates bright ? I meant Matt not Mike
I always lose it, forget it, or the batteries are dead. Never fails.
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I beleave the peddles come up pass the floor to much
They are in the same place as stock Model A.
The fork should be heated to go on…it’s a pain in the A..
Gave me internal pain to see you cut that pedal. I expected a more refined solution from someone like you.
What’s more refined? Cut the pedal edge off and will round the edges next time it’s off. Sometimes simple is the best solution.
@@IronTrapGarage I was more expecting you to heat and bend the pedal arm to clear the column or some other neat solution that wouldn't even have crossed my mind. Yep, cutting works, but just didn't seem like the kind of thing I'd expect from you. You finished it neatly so it doesn't look bad.
You guy's make life difficult for yourselves, why not just us the car lift, it doesn't need to be that authentic as if your working in your back yard we can us our imagination
Because the other cars are being worked on at the same time and need to stay on the lift.
Too much work for a senior citizen
If you’re getting to old for this shit it’s time to invest in a car hoist don’t ya think
What's wrong with this picture 2 hoist in the building and let's work on the floor because it more comfortable!!!!!! Come on guys use your equipment to your best efforts.
Because the time it takes to swap those vehicles around this job could be done.
Don't cut the pedal pad. To go through all the trouble to convert and then to do that? That's a hack move.Too late.
I agree. Could have spent the time to move the pad location over. Yes it looks like animal dung now.
@@RichieCat4223 With all the parts Matt has around he likely has another pedal setup around so he could still swap out pedals and modify it right..
@@kennethstaszak9990 You are correct. But will he ?
Grind a small radius to the top and bottom corners while retaining the clearance flat?
Or this winter rebuild any bezel bead with weld.
@@waynespyker5731 Too late. He already hacked it up. There's no going back from the original hack job. Unless it's by replacing the pedal pad and moving it to the right. To me it doesn't negate the fact he was willing to hack the pedal pad up in the first place. There were options but he seemed in too much of a hurry to look at them.
Sorry, but the cut-off brake pedal looks like crap.
Very Kool Kit Matt
Vern Tardel makes a 32 crossmember kit with a fabricated replica for A's and Bs
Sure does. Lots of options. All have their own shortcomings and upsides.