In the Mouth of Madness Review: Do You Read Sutter Cane?
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2023
- It's time to talk about the Apocalypse Trilogy by the great John Carpenter. This time, we're talking about the beloved Lovecraftian thriller In the Mouth of Madness.
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The furries have taken John Carpenter too…
THEY CAN’T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
@@shortbushero nooo
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AVENGE ME BROTHER
gross
This movie does what so many wannabe-Lovecraft writers wish they could do. They break down the world in front of the main character, and let him know that once the credits roll, he’ll cease to exist.
But do they know the name of HP Lovecraft's cat 🤔
@@melgibsonafter5beers329
Blankman?
‘Time is a flat circle. ‘ Everything we’ve ever done or will do, we’re gonna do over and over and over again. -True Detective
Even better because there isn't any scary squid face
@@fnot804 sounds like something dr manhattan would do
This movie proves that John Carpenter can make a better Metallica song than Metallica.
Man their last album was so boring, i actually almost fall asleep listening to it😭
@@mycity7590 What's it called? "12 Tingle Triggers Guaranteed to Put You to Sleep"? Maybe it's serving its purpose...
Damn, I forgot that this dude did all of his OSTs as well, what a talent.
I thought that WAS Metallica at first
I was never really a fan of Sutter, I always found it weird how he made a 20-page long orgy scene with the underage cast, I mean, would that really kill a monster?
Jokes aside, this is a pretty fun movie.
For those who don't get the joke, Steven King's IT. In some ways, his brain was fried even before he caught TDS.
I'll take the elder-god worshipping l0 0n, over the self important, non c3y com mi3, any day of the week ^^
I haven't read IT in a while. Was it really 20 pages long?
Iirc it was not 20 pages long, but still uncomfortably long. I have no interest in re-reading it since Stephen King gives me extreme pedo vibes.@@g.g.moquete
"WHO YOU TRYIN'A GET CRAZY WITH, ESE...? DON'TCHU KNOW I'M LOCO???"
Chat, would you pet the Shoggoth?
I'll do you one better - I'd smooch the King in Yellow.
I'd recommend checking out "Sucker for Love" ^^
how are we Chat outside of chat
That's a good Shoggy Doggy. Good boy.
I'd breed with a shoggoth.
Sam Neil: (breaks down crying after going crazy)
Guts: "first time dealing with soul crushing cosmic horror?"
*_"A good mystery always trumps a lousy answer."_*
*_I do not remember where I read that, but it fits Cosmic Horror to a tee. It also explains why effective film adaptations of Lovecraft are so few and far between. Thanks, Loli, for bringing a few more eyeballs to one of those few._*
I wish Frictional Games understood this. The first Amnesia game gave us just enough hints about other worlds to be interesting. Then the later games starts to show and explain the world. I feel like that level of familiarity and understanding of a Lovecraftian universe is doubly bad.
@@frankfrankerson782 What's more, further familiarity and understanding of the Cosmos is supposed to serve to further damn a mere human, at least. Where, in new installments, the protagonist that you play (new or old) should start out a deranged lunatic, where death is truly one of the better outcomes.
Ah well, Sequel Syndrome can affect any type of entertainment, games especially.
@@frankfrankerson782 Eh, I felt Alexander was already human enough that his alien origin never really felt Lovecraftian, so exploring more of his world just seemed like worldbuilding to me. The Lovecraftian aspects came from The Shadow and the Orbs it guards, which are still completely unexplained, while the Other World that Alexander came from was an incredibly advanced civilization that tapped into these Lovecraftian powers.
Regardless, the Bunker seems to imply the series will be going back to keeping the Other World stuff in the background while telling each game's individual story, so they probably won't delve much deeper into the Other World anyway.
This is one of the few movies that actually manages to get the feel of a Lovecraft story
In spirit
Ive always felt like in the mouth of madness really showed off how good of a creative John carpenter is. I dont really think any other director could pull off something like it.
The only name that comes to mind is Michael Bay, obviously.
(I kid, maybe Robert Eggers or Ari Aster)
The bus scene is such a dark yet almost comedic thing.
An elder god shows off it’s powers, not by destroying the earth with a marvel sky laser™️, just making everything B L U E.
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🐍 no step on Snek!🇭🇰🇺🇸
The old lady and her husband also provides a little dark comedy.
Blue like him, inside and outside.
Funnily enough, this video (along with the Bloodborne soundtrack backing it throughout) actually made me completely rethink what my favorite ending of Bloodborne the game itself is. Previously it was the ending where the hunter you play as becomes an elder god himself.
But now? The ending where you simply wake up out of the nightmare seems so much more fitting for the Lovecraftian setting. You don't master the mysteries and become an eldritch being to reshape the world and possibly make everything better through your newfound power. Instead, you just BARELY survive it and live to make things only slightly better, as the rest of the world still ultimately remains under degradation and manipulation of things far, far beyond humanity. All you truly did to effect it all was just survive long enough to slowly realize just a glimpse of how things really are. But maybe with that knowledge, you can make enough difference to change things in the "real" waking world enough to lessen the influence these cosmic beings have over humanity, or at the very least prepare others to better survive it all.
Nerd rant aside, great vid.
Pretty sure Yharnam is only affected by the hunt and the rest of the world is ignorant of the truth and just sees Yharnam as a bunch of crazy people. Also in the escape the dream ending everyone in Yharnam is insane or dead and you’re the only survivor and the hunt is doomed to happen again probably elsewhere in the world.
@@Vac302 even better. 🤣
You know how your forget the dream you just had a few minutes ago? Since it was experienced as a dream, the hunter will soon forget it too. This can either be a blessing, as the hunter remain ignorant of the cosmic horror around him, or a curse, as the hunter will be forever stuck on a loop of entering the dream and forgetting it.
Given the similarities between the plot of this film and Alan Wake, this is a refreshing trip down memory lane to wash out the bad taste I got after finishing Alan Wake II.
Oh crap is it bad? Alan Wake 2?
@@theOriginalRudeDude I would say so. My verdict on the DLC remains to be seen, but the base game was just a massive letdown. It was off to a bad start when I learned Remedy sought the consultation services of Sweet Baby Inc. to make their story and characters more in line with woke values, despite already spending money hard-earned across different projects to buy the IP rights to Alan Wake from Microsoft. They could have retained complete creative control, but this demonstrated a loss of integrity that I didn't see coming. Regardless, as for the game itself, the storytelling, character, pacing, and combat are a world apart from its prequel: the story is told in a very dragged out and convoluted fashion, much of the characters have diminished personality from their initial appearances or are just there, with Saga Anderson faring the worst, being a shallow, girlboss template with next to no emotional range, suffering much the same fate as Jesse Faden from Remedy's previous outing, Control. The graphical fidelity and atmosphere at least pull their weight impressively, even without hardware ray-tracing, though performance issues on PC left much to be desired. The mechanics themselves are a lot less precise than the first game or American Nightmare, leaning more into deliberately clunky movement to facilitate detailed animations and/or intensifying the horror, neither of which I believe benefits the fun factor, especially when the dodge mechanic doesn't work out more than half the time. The choice to separate Saga and Alan's campaigns with the option to switch between was neat in theory, but it results in a less cohesive progression in an already frustratingly fragmented narrative. The atmosphere and sound design can induce great tension, but the game relies far too heavily on jumpscares to the point where it becomes annoying to play. Finally, the ending just blows and is a blatant setup for a sequel that doesn't resolve much of anything that occurred beforehand. I will give credit to the one showcase sequence in Alan's campaign (you'll know it when you see it), and one particular video entry of Alice Wake's project that was particularly disturbing. Ultimately, I wouldn't want to play through it all again, as it took me nearly 30 hours to finish on normal difficulty without going out of my way to 100% it, and the game doesn't need to be that long.
@@kodybuffettwilson my estimations of Alan Wake 2 as a great sequel just frikken plummeted.
The first one felt like such an experience, I loved the arcady gameplay and the story and the characters. I named one of my dogs Barry bro.
And I was looking forward to the Sam Lake detective dude.
Oh, and thanks for not spoiling btw.
@@theOriginalRudeDude No problem, dude.
@@theOriginalRudeDude Max Derrat's game of the year, which gives more credence to passing on it.
Alan Moore in 2015: I shall make a graphic novel about HP Lovecraft bringing the Elder Gods into our universe
John Carpenter in 1994: That's cute.
I love how much of a parodial jab this movie is towards the Stephen King craze while also being an honest to goodness exceptional lovecraftian nightmare, only John Carpenter everybody
"Hobb's End" is un undoubted reference to "Hob's Lane", which was featured in Quatermass and the Pit by Nigel Kneale. Neale's works are heavily Lovecraft-inspired, albeit with a sci-fi bent.
Despite what people say about John Carpenter's work in the 90s, there were still some good hits that he made despite his supposed decline in filmmaking.
90s Carpenter still had some amount of talent within him, but after seeing "The Ward", I knew he had nothing left (on the filmmaking side) - that was truly a terrible experience ^^
"THIS IS NOT REALITY, THIS IS NOT REALITY!" A great movie, not the most amazing out there, but pretty great none-the-less.
Sam Neill, going from a 'Doubting Thomas' character to losing his mind and eventually giving up, is wonderful.
One of the best Lovecraft-inspired movies out there. Really fits that style of cosmic horror.
Did I ever tell you that my favourite was Blue? - James Cameron.
the sutter cane actor was in the original dune, das boot and... the house of the dead lol
Jürgen Prochnow is a great actor.
The bloodborne ost was a perfect touch
In the Mouth of Madness is another classic from Carpenter, but I would've liked to have seen what he could've done with a bigger budget.
I discovered this movie through the intro to Mr. Metokour series internet insanity watched it and now it’s one of my favorite horror movies.(just got further into the video and you brought it up )
This movie was his biopic when you think about it. Once an average dude that made a rantsona because everyone was doing it, managed to bump uglies with some of the wickedest people thanks to Gamergate, and before he got to the bottom of it he's dying/died of a mysterious illness that not even doctors can figure out.
RIP, may the powers that be never scrub us of his memory.
Cool personal fact, I cut the hair of the guy who did all of the special effects for the monsters in the darkness. His name is Sean Sansom and he's a rad guy.
I think scenes were bigger part of monsters than monsters themselves. Like in the driving scene, when at some point he drives over endless void.
>best Lovecraft story is when you given just enough.
I disagree. While he himself said that fear is the most important, the curiosity almost always is the main driver of the story. Stories are interesting, and you want to know more, which is exactly what a lot of Lovecraft protagonists feel.
But in case of this movie, I totally agree, it revealed just as much as it needed, and monstrous creatures were never the main point.
Bloodborne playing through the whole video, right on!
Hey guys, in the time I'm writing this comment you can watch In the Mouth of Madness for free on UA-cam. So, if you haven't seen it and don't want it spoiled, you can watch the movie first and then watch this well-made review.
Because of your berserk content I will literally watch anything you upload forevermore
4:02 RIP King ⭐⭐⭐⭐
Just realised that the garment with all the black crosses is akin to the garments worn by those about to be burnt alive during the Spanish inquisition.
God this movie is such a classic film, it really captures the true terror of cosmic horror.😺
Ooohh the openning with Bloodborne music was just perfect for a lovecraftian movie. Just a perfect tone is set
Gotta say this was long awaited, I love this movie and your reviews particularly. Keep up the good work man.
I watched it shortly after you announced youd be covering it so i could properly go in blind and goddamn its great. I think the only way carpenter could have improved the ending is to actually end it with Trent laughing at himself laughing on the movie screen, with him facing himself breaking down. But regardless, still a wonderfully unnerving movie.
I recognized Ms Bay immediatly as the legandary Grandma Gilmore. Idk what you were talking about.
I just love how unsettling and how otherworldly the tone of In The Mouth of Madness is.
Anyone else feel like uploads have been slow? Like I know he made the berserk video a couple days ago but… I don’t know.
I did my homework this week and watched in the mouth of madness and i absolutely loved it thanks for letting me know about it
Another youtuber made an adequate assessment of the "feel" these 3 movies in order (thing; prince; madness;).
essentially: A sliding scale of the kind of horror and scope you're looking for, - 1: a purely physical threat from space, that could pose a danger if not isolated and destroyed;
2: Science & faith on the nature of an evil that may already be right under our noses (execution not withstanding); 3: Pure existential crisis - It's THE END. No sense, no hope. Only thing left to ask..
Do read Sutter Kane?
Deusdaecon Reviews?
@@ActivistBatonVI you get a cookie, sir🍪
@@puffythedestroyer8878 He really deserves way more views, critics should learn a thing or two from Daecon.
The one movie I've always wanted to see but never got around
Love Eldrich horror, and The Thing is my favorite movie of all times
I actually had no idea John Carpenter made it, that was the final push! Definitely will watch it now!
One of my favorite John Carpenter's movies hands down! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Fun fact: "Hobbs' End" is likely a reference to another Lovecraftian film, QUATERMASS AND THE PIT.
Saw your review right before bedtime
Proceeded to have horrible, HORRIBLE nightmares
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Thank you!
Man I've dipped into more horror in the last week than in my entire life. First your Fear and Hunger stream sends me down that rabbit hole, then you drop this fourth-wall fuckery
The ending should have been the nations of the world nuking elder gods back home
Liked & subscribed. It may not be what Carpenter intended, but I think a valid alternate plot is that everything between Trent being admitted to the asylum & him being back in it near the end simply reflects the fever dream delusions of a mentally disturbed man.
I hope you make a video talking about James O’Barr comic The Crow
Came across this one a while back on UA-cam free movies. In my opinion, the best Lovecraftian style movie out there
The concept is like a demonic Neverending Story. Hobbs End is Fantasia and Sutter Cane is the librarian.
I have officially begun reading In the Mountains of Madness. My journey into the world of H.P. Lovecraft has begun...
...wait, is that where R.L. Stine got HIS pen name? Was Goosebumps a Lovecraft series for kids this whole time???
🗡️ Sed Tantum Dic Verbo! ✝️ 🇺🇸
I’m a big fan of John Carpenter movies and I was surprised this movie never got mentioned. I only found out through Mr Metokur. One of his best in my opinion.
God, I love the concept of this movie. The effects have aged but it is a Goldie in my books. I remember the first time seeing the spider walk as a boy and has always stuck with me.
This sounds like an interesting movie I'd like to check out.
Commenting to appease our eldritch go Alģor Ithəm. Good tidying to you, Almighty
THIS IS NOT REALITY. NOT REALITY. NOT REALITY.
This is reality.
~Insane in the membrane. INSANE IN THE BRAIN!~
[Internet Insanity]
AlmightyLoli: It's one of the scariest movies since "Halloween"
The thing (1982): OI!
Damn bro i didnt know you make you good videos too!
It is truly cold cosmic irony that TAL:s comment "The Prince of Darkness didn't really scare me, it had cool ideas but it didn't live up to other trilogies movies" is exactly reverse for me. The Prince of Darkness got succesfully under my skin and gave me nice existential shutters. It had plenty personal horror by placing normal people against (kinda) unknown cosmic horror in a chaotic and claustrophobic place, with a good sense of rising tension and stakes. Especially those messages from the future were very memoarable for me. Sure it's not perfect but it's easily my second favourite Carpenter (or maybe I like the Esc from Ny better, can't really say).
But the ItMoM just doesn't really have the same effect for me. The is just an underline of pulpy cheesiness that I can't get over with. Sure there is thematical point in it, as our main character is experiencing such novel play out in front of his eyes and there is much more going on under the surface level of horrors. But with out counting quite few exelent scenes, the movies just doesn't get a grip and molest my fragile psyche, but left me untouched and disapointed. With is shame beacause I still like it quite a lot. It has enormous potential which it couldn't fullfill, atleast not in my eyes.
i remember watching this as a 5 year old kid, then having an intense nightmare that night. i dreamt running through that same tunnel being chased by those monsters and woke up sweating profusely. i just remembered this movie through some short nap time and had so much trouble looking for the title, just remembering the part where i had a nightmare. super great movie. greatly appreciated my mom for being a horror fan and making me watch shit scary movies like this.
Despite the Apocalypse Trilogy not being narratively connected, I noticed elements from the previous films that were in In The Mouth Of Madness, tentacled monstrosities (The Thing), homicidal homeless people, an evil contained in a Church and a God opening a portal to unleash evil onto the world (Prince Of Darkness), In The Mouth Madness even used the same exact jumpscare from the end of Prince Of Darkness.
I watched this on Halloween last year. It’s really a great movie!
Ludwig the holy blade in the background, based
You definitely should review Jacob's Ladder! Pretty freaky like mouth of madness and directly inspired the original Silent Hill!
I like the Bloodborne music throughout.
From what I remember cain mentions the crawiling chaos at one point
Not much of a Carpenter fan, except Halloween. But In The Mouth Of Madness is really awesome. When they have Happy Gilmore's grandma as a crazy Lovecraftian monster was great
Didn't quite like this movie back when it first came out except for the great effects from those days that just has this timeless feel. But that's because it was hard to appreciate cosmic horror in a single title. As the horror genre had tons of cosmic horror titles in those days it didn't feel special at the time. Also wanst a fan of the strange horror dream randomness that some movies went into including In the Mouth of Madness. But reading and watching more Lovecraftian specific works, and more modern movies being watered down PG13 bs. It certainly aged well and I love the movie for what it is today.
The infant on Sutter Caine's back
A day after this vid dropped I was at my local nerd store and I saw a bluray of this, had to get it after watching this and randomly spotting it, why is this the thing the universe insists on lol?
The thing definitely beats this movie but I really like the effects this movie has
Didn't Cane write Trent into existence? And that's the twist
Found this movie for free on UA-cam and was surprised by the fact that it was actually really good
Legitimately my favorite horror movie
He shoulda requested Testing Groups!
I rewatched it yesterday
To me Carpenter made the best lovecraftian movies..
The void was also good stuff.
FUK YES!, I friggen love this movie.
Sam Neil’s crazy yelling is hysterical to me.
“The Thing” comics are awesome dude.
Sam Neil. Under-rated actor. He's Kiwi btw, not Aussie
Is Sutter Cain the eldritch god? I thought he was just a normal human helping them and is that Vigo the Carpathian!?
"I'M NOT INSANE!, I'M NOT INSAAAAANE!!!"
I always thought that Trent himself was a character chreated by Sutter Cane, which would add to the whole theme of existencialism horror
One of the best Lovecraft films that Lovecraft never wrote. Sam Neill carries this one and does it very well. Love this film.
Oh! You should review Possession with Sam Neill, if you never have. Complete bonkers film
Theres the full movie here in youtube. Its cool. But i view it as dark fantasy instead of horror. Im older now its hard to get scare
Whats the song at the end
All I can say is I'm sorry about the balls!
The mouth of madness is probably the best lovecraftian horror movies imo.
Just finished this film on the criterion channel last night; idk how I feel. Started out very well, but the Cane actor wasn’t doing it for me, maybe a Christopher Walken would have been better there. The zany energy would have mixed well, but what an actor as far as the protagonist, stayed with the film purely for that, with the rest of the film functioning as window dressing for the one character of worth there. Idk though overall, hard one to rate or quantify in any real way.
you should watch possession Sam Neil also stars in it. oh never mind lmao
good movie
I was given nightmare's by this at 20. Not kidding.
Dude i just watched this after watching Twin Peaks Fire Walk and platinuming Alan Wake 2 and let me tell you... I would have probably liked this movie alot more as a youth but yeah The Thing is waaaaaay better.. good times
This is my favorite horror movie ever.
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You excited for Hollywood to try and turn Lovecrafts work into the next MCU…. I know I am. Hollywood is pretty much a Lovecraft horror.
With all this Lovecraft talk, I'm anticipating the day a SubcribeStar requests Loli to talk about the Max Payne games.
I just finished og alan wake. Lol.
🎉
But in all seriousness did you like the book?
Now that i think off it.
This could have been a better end off for Alan Wake but in a more twisted and more liked not sucking too much dick of Twin Peaks,
Great movie and great review , I like my own theory that this whole movie is sam Neil's crazy ass insanity trip as he loses his fucking mind and everything in the movie is just him.