BMW M4 CSL v Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA: DRAG RACE

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  • Опубліковано 18 лис 2022
  • It’s time for a Germany vs Italy head-to-head!
    We’ve got Mat lining up in the all-new BMW M4 CSL, and he’s going up against Yianni in the Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA! Both of these cars are super rare, with only 10 of each being sold in the UK! The question is, which is quickest over the quarter-mile?
    Starting with the BMW, it’s powered by a 3-litre twin-turbo straight-six which is good for 550hp and 650Nm of torque. It drives the rear wheels only, and tips the scales at 1,625kg - 100kg less than the standard M4! It’ll set you back a fair bit, though, costing £126,000!
    Then we have the Alfa. It’s housing a 2.9-litre twin-turbo V6 under the bonnet which can produce 540hp and 600Nm. It’s lighter than the BMW, at 1,540kg, but it’s also more expensive, coming in at £150,000! Just like the BMW, it also drives the rear wheels only.
    So the Alfa is down on power, but it’s also lighter! Will that prove decisive? There’s only one way to find out - LET’S RACE!
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  • @carwow
    @carwow  Рік тому +803

    Which would you choose? VOTE BELOW!

  • @rohansharma3223
    @rohansharma3223 Рік тому +1686

    Finally seeing the iconic duo after a long time.

    • @AFollower0416
      @AFollower0416 Рік тому +21

      Iconic duo? The giulia ist just a bad copy of the bmw lol

    • @cristianmihai1744
      @cristianmihai1744 Рік тому +81

      @@AFollower0416 you have no idea what alfa means, isn‘t it? Giulia is a 2016 which beat on nurburgring the m4 back then. Gta/m is just a qv tuned ;)

    • @MD-uu5nt
      @MD-uu5nt Рік тому +61

      @@AFollower0416 bad....that must be why the Giulia won pretty much every comparison with the M3 when it came out...that M4 is hideous.
      BMW have to lie about their horsepower figures to win. Look up videos of the M4 CSL on a Dyno. It makes 605hp and 740nm of torque....it's got way more power than the Giulia. Of course it's going to win.

    • @rohansharma3223
      @rohansharma3223 Рік тому +72

      @@AFollower0416 i was talking about mat and yanny😂

    • @chamaldealwis9
      @chamaldealwis9 Рік тому +18

      @@AFollower0416 he's on about matt and yanni, the only iconic car in this race is the CSL

  • @manveerghuman5276
    @manveerghuman5276 Рік тому +764

    Two extremely rare cars like this is amazing for a drag race!

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +3

      Do a drag race between Mia Taylor's Bentley Speed 8 vs Honoka Kousaka's GTR LM NISMO 2015 LMP1, Carwow!

    • @rickybobby7549
      @rickybobby7549 Рік тому +6

      Rare? My Honda civic is rare too then

    • @yan7911
      @yan7911 Рік тому +50

      @@rickybobby7549 m4 csl : 1000 cars produced, giulia gta : 500 cars produced, yes these are rare

    • @sensational6111
      @sensational6111 Рік тому +2

      they are rare but there is nothing amazing about these two cars

    • @dreadpirate6469
      @dreadpirate6469 Рік тому +1

      @@yan7911 because even if they produce a million of them, only few numbers will sell

  • @JesusRodriguez-tm8go
    @JesusRodriguez-tm8go Рік тому +1539

    Alfa, no doubt.
    It'd be interesting seeing a fast lap of them around a track

    • @alexcepile1420
      @alexcepile1420 Рік тому +94

      pretty sure the lighter + more downforce alfa would win

    • @Franc39A6DD
      @Franc39A6DD Рік тому +60

      @@alexcepile1420 It already has difficulty beating an M3 competition, so an M4 gts, no chance. The Alfa has an older architecture, competing with the BMW F8X. G80 is another world.

    • @alexcepile1420
      @alexcepile1420 Рік тому +22

      @@Franc39A6DD any video to back that up?

    • @Franc39A6DD
      @Franc39A6DD Рік тому

      @@alexcepile1420 ua-cam.com/video/LsNWBqAaOHM/v-deo.html

    • @alexcepile1420
      @alexcepile1420 Рік тому +3

      @@Franc39A6DD yep. guess you got q point there.

  • @marinusikke886
    @marinusikke886 Рік тому +117

    I've had different fast cars in my younger days..gti and gte and turbo's...and then i got my first fast tuned Alfa and then i felt something you can't explain!!!! it was a real CarWow💪💪

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 6 місяців тому +2

      U felt the less power then BMW?

    • @carlosalonso2991
      @carlosalonso2991 2 місяці тому

      No he visto en el alfa el DNA más rabioso marcado!!!
      No creo que le saque esa diferencia.

    • @AI-qd4vb
      @AI-qd4vb 17 днів тому +1

      @@user-my4xu4gf1z No, he actually felt something, unlike the numb new era BMWs

  • @lewissykes99
    @lewissykes99 Рік тому +730

    Imagine they started testing cars around a track too 👀 I can see car wow turning into a new top gear/grand tour and I’m here for it

    • @bbkingwasthegreatest711
      @bbkingwasthegreatest711 Рік тому +51

      Mat and Yanni have the chemistry for it to work

    • @francisbawasanta6310
      @francisbawasanta6310 Рік тому +28

      I imagine the lighter car and better braking might even out on a course instead of just a straight away... but we may never get that video. 🤨

    • @lewissykes99
      @lewissykes99 Рік тому +1

      @@francisbawasanta6310 we can always hope 🤞🏻

    • @lewissykes99
      @lewissykes99 Рік тому +1

      @@bbkingwasthegreatest711 I know ,I could watch them race around all day

    • @bbkingwasthegreatest711
      @bbkingwasthegreatest711 Рік тому +13

      @@lewissykes99 They need a third person, like a James May maybe that German presenter would be ok, but yes they really should try it, imagine a road trip with them.

  • @jackahorey2354
    @jackahorey2354 Рік тому +571

    You could argue Matt would have won even if he'd plowed through the bunny, but that would be splitting hares.

  • @MrHenk588
    @MrHenk588 Рік тому +672

    The Alfa generates way more downforce than the M4, it's a track build spec, not a drag build one

    • @bmwn62
      @bmwn62 Рік тому +71

      Lmao m4 isn’t drag car

    • @uThuthukani
      @uThuthukani Рік тому +35

      If you were talking about the Rolling Race then yess you’re right. But the drag race??
      They both aren’t for drag racing but lap times i think the Alfa would smash the Beemer

    • @Jonas-hh9fu
      @Jonas-hh9fu Рік тому +32

      @@uThuthukani i dont think so, i think that the bmw would still be faster around a Track. The current 3/4 Series Platform is just incredibly potent in the regular m3/4 Wehre as the Alfa is slowly aging. I hagelt Drive the csl yet but From what i experienced With the m3 competition i dont believe that the Alfa would Beat the csl on Track. Especially in you Consider that the csl is the fastest bmw ever on the nordschleife. I would still take the Alfa though 😂 just to beautiful

    • @kaimelis
      @kaimelis Рік тому

      @@Jonas-hh9fu only a complete dumbass thinks an alfa would be faster around a track than an m bmw, prove me that an ill eat my own chocolate hat.

    • @defqon3193
      @defqon3193 Рік тому +35

      @@uThuthukani M4 csl 7.15 min nurbr and alfa did 7.32 min

  • @Konszky
    @Konszky Рік тому +189

    I´d still have the Alfa, any day of the week, in any circumstance. Trackday, daily, C&C, cruising, touring... ANY circumstance.

    • @deimantasbutkus1219
      @deimantasbutkus1219 Рік тому +6

      take it to the mechanics

    • @Konszky
      @Konszky Рік тому +8

      @@deimantasbutkus1219 my Alfa came with 7 years full warranty. Make what you want out of that.

    • @MrMikeyj81
      @MrMikeyj81 Рік тому

      @@Konszky Yeah cause you dam well need it! They are unreliable 80% of the time lol

    • @Konszky
      @Konszky Рік тому +7

      @@MrMikeyj81 you know you're not making sense. A manufacturer of anything wouldn't offer 7 years warranty if they didn't have confidence in their product. How many Alfas have you owned?

    • @kristoffer816
      @kristoffer816 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Konszky Er så mange kålhuer som overhode ikke veit hva de prater om. Moderne biler generelt er like holdbare uansett merke:P

  • @propm
    @propm Рік тому +1576

    That Alfa just looks sooooo good, I don't really care if it's slower when it looks and sounds so much better.

    • @kamovmil5843
      @kamovmil5843 Рік тому +142

      They used the lower specs GTA, they didn't play fair. They were dirty. They should have tested the M4 with the Giulia GTAm which has setup and specs for track like the csl.

    • @jakegargiulo5101
      @jakegargiulo5101 Рік тому +26

      @@kamovmil5843 Yeah it was so weird how much the Alfa lost by. Doesn't make sense.

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 Рік тому +52

      This M4 looks way better, sexier, and more unique and aggressive.

    • @kamovmil5843
      @kamovmil5843 Рік тому +1

      @@hassanger8128 bmw is an ugly German box.

    • @eddy_6502
      @eddy_6502 Рік тому +105

      @@hassanger8128 bs

  • @palefaced1
    @palefaced1 Рік тому +2267

    I'd still have the Alfa Romeo all day long. It's just beautiful

    • @giuseppe-xd8ty
      @giuseppe-xd8ty Рік тому +49

      So true man

    • @braincorruptor5315
      @braincorruptor5315 Рік тому +130

      But that wouldn't change the fact that m4 is still a better car.

    • @h4c1k07
      @h4c1k07 Рік тому +160

      @@braincorruptor5315 XD BMW fanboy

    • @braincorruptor5315
      @braincorruptor5315 Рік тому +10

      @@h4c1k07 😹👍

    • @mr.o9679
      @mr.o9679 Рік тому +64

      @@braincorruptor5315i wouldnt buy the best car in the world if its that ugly like the m4

  • @MGZRJackass
    @MGZRJackass Рік тому +197

    Both stunning cars!! But I think I’d pick the Alfa if I had the money, such a stunning car

  • @TioUngaro
    @TioUngaro Рік тому +488

    I'd go with Alfa and go with style

    • @crazyshotzz1287
      @crazyshotzz1287 Рік тому +19

      Go then bmw wins again

    • @Hef20000
      @Hef20000 Рік тому +2

      And better stopping power

    • @therockmillenary5985
      @therockmillenary5985 Рік тому +2

      Lo stile NON FA' UNA SUPER SPORTIVA..Alfa estrema..dura adatta in pista..un poco come la quadrifoglio verde..lo stesso marchionni lo disse appena uscita..BMW uguale più affidabilità TOTALE..potenza e comodità al topo poi se è x drive fantastica..un auto bella la BMW e anche per tutti i giorni..i tedeschi sanno come essere SEMPRE al TOP qui'in BMW..motori sportivi

    • @stachecki6227
      @stachecki6227 Рік тому +1

      Yeah mechanic style, where is my engine😂

    • @RyeRyeL
      @RyeRyeL Рік тому +2

      and breakdowns and poor build quality in the Alfa

  • @combativesquire4234
    @combativesquire4234 Рік тому +255

    I saw the gulia the other day, it looked and sounded amazing

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +7

      Giulia sounded better than Life L190 F1 Car. That car sounded like a genset.

    • @drstevej2527
      @drstevej2527 Рік тому +2

      It’s sound it’s it’s only redeeming factor.

    • @poseidonguy3940
      @poseidonguy3940 Рік тому +3

      It looks goofy with that nachos grill, no wonder it was a sales disaster.

    • @bocko159
      @bocko159 Рік тому

      @@poseidonguy3940 Yeah that's why ze germans copied everything to M4, from diffusers to color and rear spoiler. Just check how M changed in 5-6 years after QV and GTA arrived.

    • @poseidonguy3940
      @poseidonguy3940 Рік тому +2

      @@bocko159 That's coming from someone with a 159 in his username. JFL those fanboys

  • @mbulelogumede6903
    @mbulelogumede6903 Рік тому +896

    I'd take that Gullia any day of the week. The looks are just a take away

  • @TheTruelakersfan
    @TheTruelakersfan Рік тому +4

    This the race I wanted to see! And I’m surprised of the outcome. Great video guys👏👌👍

  • @Brandon090
    @Brandon090 Рік тому +1

    Your channel is the best

  • @yvesmakunga4739
    @yvesmakunga4739 Рік тому +278

    These 2 are my favourites hands down 🙌🏾
    And next race: 1000hp evolve M5 competition vs Ferrari SF90 pls

    • @JahoSelamaj
      @JahoSelamaj Рік тому +13

      Nope that BMW is gonna blow up 🤣🤣

    • @mr.onlooker
      @mr.onlooker Рік тому +1

      🔥❤️

    • @Catalinddm
      @Catalinddm Рік тому +3

      Was thinking exactly the same thing. 👍

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +1

      @@Catalinddm what about a drag between Ferrari 412T2 vs Sauber C11 vs Rimac Nevera?

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому

      @@JahoSelamaj BMW always did.

  • @octanography5685
    @octanography5685 Рік тому +163

    There is a video on UA-cam where M4 CSL without any tune shows 605 HP and 720NM on the dyno. And in this video, you can see that difference in power.

    • @MD-uu5nt
      @MD-uu5nt Рік тому +71

      Yeah, it's ridiculous how BMW always lie about their power figures. That's almost 10% more than they claim which is enormous.

    • @kacperadamski5104
      @kacperadamski5104 Рік тому +3

      Gnata cheating…

    • @Timoastra
      @Timoastra Рік тому +35

      No question about it. The power figures BMW claims for the M-cars is more like wheel horsepower than crank horsepower.

    • @chamaldealwis9
      @chamaldealwis9 Рік тому +35

      @@MD-uu5nt it's not about lying lol it's just a 10% margin they use becos not every engine will perform the same, plus German hp is always stronger than Italian hp

    • @Omie01
      @Omie01 Рік тому +31

      @@MD-uu5nt you think thats a bad thing or what? oh no my sports car has more power than stated! lol least they dont over exaggerate like italian and american makes.

  • @mehuldharap
    @mehuldharap Рік тому +7

    The editor is fire😂😂😂

  • @DylanBrown1977
    @DylanBrown1977 11 місяців тому

    Great video😊

  • @Presto_001
    @Presto_001 Рік тому +700

    Great to see Yanni back in these drag races. Please can you get his Lamborghini back on the channel to do some awesome drag races like this one. It would be interesting seeing a base model Porsche 911 Carrera or a Carrera GTS go up against the BMW M4 CSL in a future drag race.

    • @Y14nny
      @Y14nny Рік тому +37

      🙏🏼🙌🏼

    • @mikhailmazur7
      @mikhailmazur7 Рік тому +4

      M4 Competition AWD did 10.9 in 1/4! I see in locate show as 11.2 for stock M3 RWD auto from drag!

    • @hornet99923
      @hornet99923 Рік тому +2

      how arrogant and rude Matt has become ..

    • @martinortiz575
      @martinortiz575 Рік тому +2

      A 911 GTS would beat the CSL. Porsche are the best in the business in launch control, Porsche made the best DCT by today standards (the famous PDK). My guess is that in a drag race the 911 GTS would beat the CSL, but i can't say the same for the roll race.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому

      @@Y14nny Yianni, hope in the next drag race, you do a drag between Ayumu Uehara's LM55 Mazda vs Red Bull X2019 Competition.

  • @lowemichael03
    @lowemichael03 Рік тому +3

    I wonder how much does the drag from the Is Alfa Romero affected race results?

  • @itaholic902
    @itaholic902 10 місяців тому +8

    it doesn't come as a surprise that the CSL outperforms the GTAm because
    1. on the dyno the CSL shows 605 HP, where the normal M3/M4 already has 550 HP
    2. the announced weight for the Giulia is the dry weight, so without any fluids. My Q with carbon seats and CCM breaks weights 1.755 kg, which is much more than the official weight of 1.620 kg. So both cars will weigh almost the same ... and then there is a weight difference between Mat and Yanni ... lol

    • @hogwild5844
      @hogwild5844 Місяць тому

      This is the very important detail missed. The reason the M4 walked away is it had around 70BHP more than the Giulia.
      BMW told very large porky pies about the power output of their car whereas Alfa Romeo didn't. In fairness if someone owned a GTA they could gamble and have it tuned which is less than £1000 and it would have 605bhp as well but it would void the warranty on your 150k Alfa Romeo.

    • @luffararnesugerkuk
      @luffararnesugerkuk 14 годин тому

      Weight difference between the drivers is not a big deal, considering the German have got almost a full tank and the Italian even got the light on at the dash so that is kind of out the window imho.
      But yes them Germans lie about their power, is that not a good thing though?

  • @Darkie015
    @Darkie015 Рік тому +419

    Yanni's excitement was short lived on the first race🤣😂

  • @Y14nny
    @Y14nny Рік тому +18

    Here we go again! 😊

  • @KristianKG
    @KristianKG Рік тому +6

    I think that at high speed and with high air resistance, frontal air resistance and aerodynamics play a key role in achieving speed.
    With the Alfa having more wings and spoilers, a bigger silhouette and 50Nm less than the M4 CSL, I'm not surprised the BMW is faster.

  • @justinleuropa
    @justinleuropa 2 місяці тому +2

    That down force on the Alfa doesn’t help but around a track that Alfa must be a dream. And it’s gorgeous

  • @marwanhussien1748
    @marwanhussien1748 Рік тому +120

    I knew that alfa will win the brake test .. its really a track focused machine

  • @shaktown5456
    @shaktown5456 Рік тому +476

    Always love when Yanni is there. His face expressions are always epic when he loses 🤣😂👍👍👍

    • @dreadpirate6469
      @dreadpirate6469 Рік тому +3

      Daniel is also gives a great energy

    • @user-mm2bz5pf9y
      @user-mm2bz5pf9y Рік тому +2

      Too much expression , he should be focusing on racing, it’s seems like he lost most of the time.

  • @marcinsz6817
    @marcinsz6817 Рік тому +3

    Questions what CSL will show on dyno? They usually have more in real life than in papers

  • @1nfiniteloop
    @1nfiniteloop Рік тому +2

    Would go for the Alpha as need a family car right now :) M4 would be fun though!

  • @justmax3095
    @justmax3095 Рік тому +255

    Holy shit how spectacular does the Giulia look

    • @MK-wx5vu
      @MK-wx5vu Рік тому +38

      It really is a work of art. One of the most beautiful cars produced in the last decade in my opinion

    • @stevem2323
      @stevem2323 Рік тому +25

      It really is, BMW is like some impressive brute, but that Giulia is drop dead gorgeous.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +7

      @@stevem2323 BMW and Alfa both equally gorgeous in my opinion.

    • @shizereg1595
      @shizereg1595 Рік тому +13

      @@purwantiallan5089 in my opinion bmw design is very bad

    • @apostolostvable
      @apostolostvable Рік тому +8

      Love the Montreal green. I own a red Veloce and its amazing.

  • @cheneubiseulttv8684
    @cheneubiseulttv8684 Рік тому

    Both are just wow!!!

  • @mattwiks
    @mattwiks Рік тому

    2dr vs. 4dr... way to go, as always 👏 👍 🙌

  • @boka.ng_
    @boka.ng_ Рік тому +26

    This Is The Race I Been Waiting For❕Thank You Matt

  • @yiannimize
    @yiannimize Рік тому +40

    Race race race!

  • @stephendeklerk2479
    @stephendeklerk2479 2 місяці тому +3

    The Alfa looks like it has more down aero, which will increase drag and rolling resistance.

  • @AlbertSpice
    @AlbertSpice Рік тому +101

    I would prbably still go for the Giulia. The sound alone is worth it

    • @velevmma
      @velevmma Рік тому +1

      сам не си повярва

    • @lilelf1075
      @lilelf1075 Рік тому +1

      Same and if it was the M3 in the video instead of the M4, the Giulia would have won, because the M4 is lighter than a M3

    • @wtfhumour2750
      @wtfhumour2750 Рік тому

      And you can launch it over and over and over again

    • @junyaiwase
      @junyaiwase 10 місяців тому

      @@lilelf1075it cant even beat an M3 LOL

    • @sneakybandera8894
      @sneakybandera8894 4 місяці тому

      it beats the m3 100 times over in launch and top speed@@junyaiwase

  • @77rebz
    @77rebz Рік тому +69

    Great race @carwow ! Always look forward to the uploads! Would take the Alfa all day errday!

  • @larry0465
    @larry0465 Місяць тому +5

    Alfa turns heads all day , couldn't care less if the BMW is slightly faster

  • @XanderMMV
    @XanderMMV Рік тому

    The "oh ok" after 3:40, hilarious

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 Рік тому +156

    Mat’s German impersonation still cracks me up 😂

  • @InCoGn1t0
    @InCoGn1t0 Рік тому +159

    No one believe that the M4 has the power announced…

    • @MD-uu5nt
      @MD-uu5nt Рік тому +118

      Look up videos of the M4 CSL on a Dyno. It makes 605hp and 740nm of torque....it's got way more power than the Giulia. Of course it's going to win.

    • @Lamarotante
      @Lamarotante Рік тому +4

      Difficile da accettare 🤣🤣 povera Giulia 🤣🤣

    • @South4153
      @South4153 Рік тому +36

      @@Lamarotante l'unica cosa triste e la brutta faccia della bmw

    • @Lamarotante
      @Lamarotante Рік тому +9

      @@South4153 neanche a me fa impazzire ma sono gusti. La Giulia comunque è stata bastonata qui. Sarebbe da vedere in circuito comunque

    • @mayc4543
      @mayc4543 Рік тому +2

      Maybe it is called efficiency....

  • @ms8742
    @ms8742 Рік тому +1

    I had a '23 M4 Comp xDrive for a couple months before I flipped it. M4s are supercar fast.

  • @user-sz3pn5nx5b
    @user-sz3pn5nx5b 9 місяців тому

    Can we do a Trivia episode with Matt rattling off the HP/NM figures across a slew of cars? He has to be a nutter for stats.

  • @Baukevandijk
    @Baukevandijk Рік тому +197

    The italians are pretty correct and optimistic about their HP numbers, where the Germans underrate it so massively that you can almost call it lying. Usually you can count another 20HP on top of the official number. The 2021 Supra for example with the BMW B58 has 382HP on paper but close to 400 HP on the dyno. I suspect that CSL is putting out around 570 580HP
    -edit: I just read that on a Dyno the CSL puts out 605hp..

    • @HectorMartinez-nf9vf
      @HectorMartinez-nf9vf Рік тому +11

      Holy shit, more than 50hp in the Dyno

    • @JesusRodriguez-tm8go
      @JesusRodriguez-tm8go Рік тому +20

      The alfa wasn't doing that bad then

    • @30hours51
      @30hours51 Рік тому +34

      Ok….. GTAm still would destroy it in corners and it’s 200lb lighter than a CSL lol

    • @unrealeck
      @unrealeck Рік тому +19

      @@30hours51 M4 CSL does the ring in 7:15.
      I doubt the GTAm is faster. Alfa have never given any times for it for some reason.

    • @ayanrahman9371
      @ayanrahman9371 Рік тому +1

      dam that’s crazy

  • @BengNinja
    @BengNinja Рік тому +28

    Both cars are absolutely stunning

    • @matteod750
      @matteod750 Рік тому +6

      Yeah but BMW Is another level

    • @shizereg1595
      @shizereg1595 Рік тому +2

      @@matteod750 bmw is on another level in bad car design, this m4 looks so weird

    • @shawnstpierre3689
      @shawnstpierre3689 Рік тому

      @@matteod750another level of ugly!

    • @binflydushy
      @binflydushy Рік тому +2

      @@shizereg1595 Your trippin rn, BMW has just more confidence and the interior of the Alfa is just a 1 of 10

    • @shizereg1595
      @shizereg1595 Рік тому +2

      @@binflydushy are you blind? this BMW is so weird looking, when Alfa is the best looking sedan in the world...

  • @Astar23
    @Astar23 9 місяців тому

    The Yianni tune adds an extra 20% power and doesn’t void your warranty 🚀🚀🚀

  • @On3d3R_Lvst1nG
    @On3d3R_Lvst1nG Рік тому +9

    I wonder if it would have been a closer race if the Giulia was driven in manual mode. The paddle shifters are awesome on this car. These cars like to be revvvved.

    • @mcdstefano2546
      @mcdstefano2546 10 місяців тому +1

      You had to enter the race mode on the Alfa and it ate the Bmw

  • @listener0019
    @listener0019 Рік тому +15

    That "oh okay " by Yianni at 3:44 is golden 😂

  • @HarshiLLmusic
    @HarshiLLmusic Рік тому +26

    M4 CSL looking 😍

  • @brunogajdos1175
    @brunogajdos1175 Місяць тому

    I want them both

  • @maxwellmasekoameng198
    @maxwellmasekoameng198 Рік тому +27

    I like it when Yanni celebrate too early and gets disappointed 🤣🤣🤣
    His face expression is killing me🤣🤣🤣

  • @olih.
    @olih. Рік тому +124

    That Alfa looks 💯 💚

  • @carlivandenis
    @carlivandenis 2 місяці тому

    Why didn't you try to start from first gear with the traction control on?

  • @nawafa4307
    @nawafa4307 Рік тому

    Yani makes it that match better. Gold.

  • @okithdesilva129
    @okithdesilva129 Рік тому +37

    Carwow drag races are the funniest drag races ever with Mat and Yianni!

  • @greatgatsby4898
    @greatgatsby4898 Рік тому +3

    Great video. My one suggestion is that you show the speeds side by side as comparison of acceleration

  • @jaydenrichards8815
    @jaydenrichards8815 Рік тому

    Why isn't there a video with the m4 csl going up against the m5 cs

  • @Racoon1008
    @Racoon1008 Рік тому +11

    CSL dynos at 600hp stock

    • @rns6889
      @rns6889 4 місяці тому +1

      I knew they lied about power numbers again lmao. But that's impressive that bmw made a 3 liter that makes that much power. Must be a lot of boost and a high end engine.

  • @robertomelis8203
    @robertomelis8203 Рік тому +75

    It should be great adding a stability test in CarWow videos. That will make a complete view of car performances and liability

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому

      Yep. Add also the engine reliability test.

    • @plamenpenev5987
      @plamenpenev5987 Рік тому +1

      @@purwantiallan5089 they are testing only brand new cars with warranty. Engine reliability is till the end of guarantee. Nobody cares about reliability. Performance is more important for these type of cars.

    • @jacopofrancescon2324
      @jacopofrancescon2324 Рік тому

      In order to have another BMW victory 😂

    • @aralfa
      @aralfa Рік тому +3

      @@jacopofrancescon2324 S58 engines had a major recall due to the main bearing shell in 2021, so this engine had problems. But unfortunately it is its design which would offer problems in the recing ambient. First of all it is a 6 inline engine: its crankshaft and camshaft are very long and therefore they lack the stiffness of a v6 engine. It is common experience, if we try to twist 2 bars of the same material and diametre applying the same torque the longer bar will twist more. For the S58, compared to the Alfa v6 90 deg, this translates into being less capable to be tuned to reach high RPM and become lighter. In DTM or in Formula 1, v6 90 degrees engines can be tuned to weigh less than 100kg and run at 14000 or more RPM. This is simply not feasible for a straight 6 cylinder engine. Furthermore S58 has a bore of 84mm and a stroke of 90mm. It is a so called "undersquare engine ". On the contrary, Alfa Quadrifoglio has a bore of 86.5mm and a stroke of 82mm. It is what is called "oversquare" engine, like racing cars. How does it translate? If we calculate the piston average velocity, this is given by the formula Vm=2Cn/60, where Vm is the average velocity in m/s, C is the stroke in m (so divide the value in mm by 1000) and n is RPM. Let's see what does it mean for S58 and Alfa Quadrifoglio engines at, say, 7000RPM. With the formula above at 7000RPM, the average piston speed of S58 is 21m/s while for the Alfa v6 90 deg engibe the value is 19,1m/s. As you can easily see, S58 pistons have higher average speeds (roughly 10% more than the Giulia, because their stroke is roughly 10% bigger) and at 7000RPM S58 passes the border of 20m/s, while Giulia's engine is still below 20m/s. This is the reason why Giulia Quadrfoglio is better designed and more reliable for races. Furthermore, while M4csl has a "chipped" version of the base S58 engine, the Giulia Gtam has hardware changes: pistons are new design and the cooling jets increase from 2 in the normal Quadrifoglio to 4 in the Gta and Gtam. In other words, while the M4Csl is nothing more than a "marketing showcar" unsuitable for racing, the Giulia Gtam is a proper race car, with race cars characteristics and big margins for tuning. A mechanical engineer, professional pilot or any enthusiast with a sound technical background would have no doubt in choosing the Giulia

    • @jacopofrancescon2324
      @jacopofrancescon2324 Рік тому

      @@aralfa Luckily I'm a structural engineer and so I can try to understand what you're talking about, unfortunately I'm not a mechanical engineer so I can't answer you with the same technical language lol 😅 ​​However, the first comment refers to the stability of the car. Since you've commented, I take the opportunity to ask you how much influence has the engine geometry on the car's torsional stiffness. Honestly I expect it could be an effect on that, but not 100%.
      Anyway, does the V6 is an "Alfa" project or a V(8-2) Ferrari?

  • @ApothecaryTerry
    @ApothecaryTerry Рік тому +148

    Yianni's "oh ok" was hilarious. Still, picking the Alfa would be an easy choice for me out of these 2, it's plenty quick enough while looking and sounding so much better.

    • @t-r-k7534
      @t-r-k7534 Рік тому +16

      and handling is much better too

    • @nickmaxfracasso8376
      @nickmaxfracasso8376 Рік тому +8

      And it being more usable in the real world being a 4 door sedan

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +1

      @@nickmaxfracasso8376 wish we could see a test between this M4 CSL vs TVR CERBERA SPEED 12.

    • @Squilliam-Fancyson
      @Squilliam-Fancyson Рік тому +7

      @@t-r-k7534 nope. then it would be faster around Nordschleife, but it isn't. In fact even the normal M4 Comp. is faster than the Alfa GTA

    • @t-r-k7534
      @t-r-k7534 Рік тому

      @@Squilliam-Fancyson same driver?

  • @Coolbeans1492
    @Coolbeans1492 7 місяців тому

    For those who are unsure what the difference between these cars is it will mostly be transmission. The power is more or less the same and the alfa is even lighter. The bmw climbs ahead bc it has taller gearing and holds onto gears longer meaning it sits in its power band longer. The alfa is faster off the line because its gearing is meant for early acceleration. Had the gearing been the same between both cars the alfa would most likely win due to the difference in weight. Or the alfa puts more gears in the trans and programs it to keep the car in its ideal power band always with the shorter gearing

  • @JH-ue2bo
    @JH-ue2bo Рік тому +1

    Dyno would have been interesting.
    I'm wondering if the BMW had 20 bhp more than claimed and the Alfa 20 less maybe

  • @camerondowning7523
    @camerondowning7523 Рік тому +14

    Saw one of those M4 CSLs in Leominster about a month ago. Didn't realise there was only 10 coming to the UK

    • @KandiMan
      @KandiMan Рік тому

      It’s actually 100

  • @chriskost7291
    @chriskost7291 Рік тому +10

    Yesssssss!! Finally a drag race we were waiting for!!

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +1

      Me too waited for this drag race. Junna Hoshimi drove this M4 at 2022 Nurburgring. Her lap was 7:00.988

  • @deadstreet1675
    @deadstreet1675 Рік тому +165

    Not even seen the race yet but I'd take that alfa all day every day! Stunning!

    • @fabriceopeta
      @fabriceopeta Рік тому +11

      nahh the M4 all day lol

    • @ShevaFC
      @ShevaFC Рік тому +5

      I'd rather have an m340i than that alfa

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому

      @@ShevaFC for me i prefer BMW M1 and M3 GTR.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому

      @@fabriceopeta M3 GTR still smokes the M4.

    • @fabriceopeta
      @fabriceopeta Рік тому +3

      @@purwantiallan5089 regardless can't see anyone with a good car knowledge go for an alfa over M sport 😂. Can't get more unreliable than an Alfa

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers Рік тому +2

    As a BMW fan, I always want the BMW to win, but man that Alfa is beautiful.

  • @liamhorn1150
    @liamhorn1150 11 місяців тому

    There’s a Alfa Romeo guilia QF gtam on sale at the moment on auto trader for £200k 😞

  • @Datguyze
    @Datguyze Рік тому +74

    I’d still get an Alfa Romeo tbh . Has been my dream car for a while

    • @user-rf9ee1nt2g
      @user-rf9ee1nt2g 9 місяців тому +2

      Alfa would beat on a track

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 6 місяців тому

      ​@@user-rf9ee1nt2gur insane BMW has amazing handling

  • @blazesmooth5573
    @blazesmooth5573 Рік тому +5

    matt colour looks so nice on that csl

  • @sitozg1
    @sitozg1 Рік тому +1

    There is no competition for BMW.
    They are making such great cars

  • @rjac001
    @rjac001 Рік тому

    "I'm sat" never gets old

  • @jacobrev6567
    @jacobrev6567 Рік тому +4

    the Alfa romeo giulia gta looks amazing already and BMW M4 CSL as well

  • @henzo7087
    @henzo7087 Рік тому +9

    Thanks Mat and Yianni, BMW anyday everyday. Best engines !

  • @elvisndreu4769
    @elvisndreu4769 Рік тому

    If you can please try Alfa Giulia GTAm Zagato 😅

  • @stephenthomas9956
    @stephenthomas9956 Рік тому +2

    Odd request I know, but anyone know the name of the music at 7:22. Thanks

  • @opinionista.
    @opinionista. Рік тому +60

    Alfa for me, thanks.
    You guys are great, look forward to the next race.

  • @jesperlehmann4336
    @jesperlehmann4336 Рік тому +11

    Yianni is back 👍👍👍 Nice dragrace! I would take the Alfa Romeo GTA 👌💪 and in 12-14 years time when you cant buy a NEW petrol or diesel car from car dealers anymore, I would love to open my garage and take a long ride in that Alfa Romeo GTA.. just because its an alfa 💪😅

  • @Ybshy
    @Ybshy Місяць тому

    Would the outcome be different if they both had even hp and tq?

    • @RICHYSUNCLE
      @RICHYSUNCLE Місяць тому

      Diffrent cars and engineering

  • @MrBrianeye82
    @MrBrianeye82 Рік тому +1

    If the M4 CSL was an xdrive, it would be hella fast!!

  • @fillefilander
    @fillefilander Рік тому +64

    The Alfa every day. So much more special and very good looks. It's absolutely fast enough!

    • @024resu
      @024resu Рік тому +2

      Money pit...

    • @RickSanchez__642
      @RickSanchez__642 Рік тому +3

      Looks so dated and too expensive for what it is. M4 csl is just better in every way.

    • @robertjanspoor5296
      @robertjanspoor5296 Рік тому +4

      Alfa may be slower but wins in the looks , sound and feel department… the BMW ‘s seem to get more ugly with every new version..

    • @RickSanchez__642
      @RickSanchez__642 Рік тому +1

      @@robertjanspoor5296 looks are subjective. BMW wins where it matters! Faster and better around the track. Why pay more for less

    • @aksharpatel3293
      @aksharpatel3293 Рік тому +5

      @@RickSanchez__642 it’s about love for the car, the way you love the bmw the same way i and the other guy love Alfa. We don’t buy the car for better looks and better interior as everyone says, it because of the legacy it holds. Alfa all day for me bro.

  • @Bloom0to9
    @Bloom0to9 Рік тому +4

    you two make me smile again haha :D and thank you to your editing team :)

    • @telegrammeonofficialcarwow5838
      @telegrammeonofficialcarwow5838 Рік тому

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  • @mattaustin4209
    @mattaustin4209 2 місяці тому +5

    Silly question. Alfa.

  • @luisk5582
    @luisk5582 3 місяці тому

    Do a race, but using the gear flaps! Then we will see it!👌🤣

  • @theracingban
    @theracingban Рік тому +57

    The Sound of that Alfa though 😭

  • @3R45U5
    @3R45U5 Рік тому +11

    The Alfa wins in the looks department hands down. One of the most beautiful GTs ever, even with that weird sparkly goblin green paintjob and that rear spoiler.
    Beautiful cars just can't be made ugly.

  • @nagylevi3827
    @nagylevi3827 7 місяців тому

    Drag and lap times fade in the eyes of one who beholds an Alfa in its full beauty. I think there is no competition here. The winner was determined when we first looked at the title.

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 6 місяців тому

      Alfa is ugly curvy ass car terrible looking headlights. And it got SMOKED

  • @bpet6990
    @bpet6990 Рік тому

    Mat. Your vids always make a smile on my yankee face……keep it up dude !

  • @cliveturner4788
    @cliveturner4788 Рік тому

    Is it a difference in gearing?

  • @malaikes69
    @malaikes69 Рік тому +3

    the bmw gives 604 horsepower in a power bank, lying on the power of their cars is already a bmw classic. good video!!

  • @bmw_m_collector
    @bmw_m_collector Рік тому +63

    Love to drive the CSL, especially around the racetrack. Would be nice to see the Alfa there

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 Рік тому +8

      alfa drives and looks better though, sounds better too

    • @duffydon1741
      @duffydon1741 Рік тому +13

      @Robotic Venom, i can feel the hurt bro, relax, its only just cars and your whole claim is based on speculation, dont go in too deep, the BMW is better, thats what it has showed us, you haven’t driven either so don’t say anything about driving better!

    • @t8506
      @t8506 Рік тому +3

      @@roboticvenom1935 right im sure youve driven both

    • @mikeyyyy8726
      @mikeyyyy8726 Рік тому +8

      Nah it just sounds better, with an aftermarket exhaust and opf delete tho the csl would sound much better, even if the alfa had an aftermarket one. BMW definitely drives better and is better in performance wise, tuning capabilities, etc. Quit being butthurt, the m4 csl is a better car overall despite it being almost 100kg heavier.

    • @nikosstories
      @nikosstories Рік тому +1

      @@duffydon1741 Try M4 CSL vs Giulia GTAm not GTA. And it is a coupe vs a Sedan.
      Both cars are very good but this is not fair comparition.

  • @nunezwoe2949
    @nunezwoe2949 10 місяців тому

    9:00 I think you missed him by a hare🥁😂

  • @AnteFuerst
    @AnteFuerst Рік тому +35

    A German CSL owner had his car on the Dyno. He had 600hp.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +2

      Yep. Even it has 611bhp with 3 dyno tune tester.

    • @jordanharrison9170
      @jordanharrison9170 Рік тому +1

      Seems to be a theme with Germans cars lately 🤔 First the Golf R now this one, hmm...

    • @ionutsolovastru1686
      @ionutsolovastru1686 Рік тому

      Fake 550 💪💪💪

    • @razor_ramon_
      @razor_ramon_ Рік тому

      @@jordanharrison9170 Golf R has been detuned since then :(

  • @Robert-ru1hq
    @Robert-ru1hq Рік тому +4

    Thank you car wow for keeping the times and presentation of them detailed af nowadays.
    I cried about it years ago in the comments and nowadays no one does it better.

  • @raphaeme
    @raphaeme Рік тому +1

    Was the M4 launching in second gear?

  • @roythompson6137
    @roythompson6137 Рік тому +5

    Alfa all the way... Stunning!

  • @phongsong9879
    @phongsong9879 Рік тому +62

    This Alfa Romeo is a beast on the track.

    • @sylvaind.6786
      @sylvaind.6786 Рік тому +4

      Alfa

    • @phongsong9879
      @phongsong9879 Рік тому

      My Bad

    • @tommasocapuzzo5850
      @tommasocapuzzo5850 Рік тому +3

      bmw is to high hevier the alfa is more more better in any circuit better joob by alfa of chasiss deportation

    • @ti8864
      @ti8864 Рік тому +1

      Yes, but the BMW is even more of a beast. I expect it to be even more onesided than this.

    • @radiocontrolled9181
      @radiocontrolled9181 Рік тому +2

      @@ti8864 Around the track, not at all.

  • @Replayyx
    @Replayyx Рік тому +216

    it would be interesting to see the 0-60 times in these drag races…

    • @kibki5773
      @kibki5773 Рік тому +24

      60-120 for rolls would be great too. in metric and imperial units

    • @Tony11442
      @Tony11442 Рік тому +7

      Only amateurs care about 0 to 60 times...

    • @naturalbornhuman3450
      @naturalbornhuman3450 Рік тому

      Exactly

    • @Replayyx
      @Replayyx Рік тому

      @@Tony11442 no people who care about car performance do lol just like he highlights them in his normal car reviews

    • @emmanuelperrina6105
      @emmanuelperrina6105 Рік тому +3

      @@Tony11442 true. 0-100 is useless. 60-180 is what matter in real life, and even more the handling