Just spent a few hours on the Air 2023, awesome scooter! I have the Max G2 as well but the Apollo is way more enjoyable to ride. Even without the rear suspension.
Thanks for the review. Rider Guide has become a trusted source on all things e-scooters and rider gear. I am currently leasing the Unagi Voyager going into month 3. The 2023 Apollo Air is high on my list for all the reasons Rider Guide has tested. I ride BART daily so this would be a great upgrade getting me to my destinations in the City. More importantly, weight and ride comfort is major factor for my needs. One more thing. The visual and local landmarks are awesome! Thanks for repin' The Bay!
That is one smooth and sleek looking ride. I would not mind attaching a wheelchair to that. FYI I use a wheelchair. At the moment I attached one of my old wheelchairs to a Evercross H5 with four ubolts and a forearm crutch. I will be emailing yall a picture just incase anyone who is always in a manual wheelchair wants to ride.
I like the easier left break for smoothly adjusting speed as well as the handle grips that won't move. Seems like they are baking a lot of nice stuff into the scooter without raising the price.
This was one of the scooters that I was considering when buying my first scooter. Sadly I didn't choose this one wnd ended up regreting it. I want this one now!
@@aidanscracked831mine only lasted 16 miles on full throttle. I wish I had known that scooter companies over rate their range dramatically. Brand new gota return it and just go with the emove cruiser
Seems like a nice commuter option. You want a smooth ride and braking - nothing worse than being around cars and having a scooter that jumps at starts or stops
I appreciate you putting the £ equivalent on your reviews. However, in the UK, the price turns out to be the same as Dollars. Example : Kaabo Mantis King GT is priced at around $2200, (a scooter I really like) and in the UK, it's about the same as a dollar price : £2200. ($2670)
Hi you are one off the best professional scooter connoisseur 👍🏽 I would love to buy the scooter only thing is missing option to change your handlebars to be smaller and the option the speed up to 28 MPH. As an option put in a code and you get that speed it would be a win-win
Thank you all for not just reviewing any and every new scooter on the market. Love that you vette the cheap brands. So when’s the new Mantis King coming out???
I bet you guys are super pumped to check out the new model "rover" that slots between the air and the city for power and weight. I'm sure you will have a pre production model by March. It will be a dual 350W motor with a top speed around 27-28mph and only 5-8lbs heavier than the Air 23.
Thx for the great info. I went by purely customer reviews buying a scooter for my son last year and regret it. In literally weeks, my son’s hiboy seemed to have issues. Flat spots on tires, throttle sporadically changed what top speed was possible depending on the day, cheap plastic parts falling off, just a poor choice. This one looks like my choice to replace for him for Christmas. Thanks again.
Hi thanks for taking the time out for us. 🎉 With all of the scooters 🙌🏽 I like the Apollo but top speed needs to be 25 mph price is good handlebars too long for committing need more lights 🚥
I like the inclusion of bar end signals, you don't really see that on ebikes or scooters even though they should, I'm wondering though is the one included commercially available?
omg the reliability is finally added to the review section!!!! I believe some new brands will be really bad on this part, like NIU, have seen so many posts on reddit say that no customer service at all in U.S. 😂
Seeing what they're doing with the city and the air, I think the new phantom is gonna be interesting to see. I suspect the phantom will get the tubeless self healing tires as well. My guess is the 2024 phantom will get these upgrades.
When the Uk finally legalise these I have a dilemma, Segway g2 max, Apollo air/city, or pure advance (be great if RG could get hold of pure). My one gripe with most of the commuter scooters is the lack of folding handlebars making them as wide as a bike so not as portable. Perhaps the folding handlebars from the navee n65 could be implemented! Other than that really like Apollo design and fact they go for ip66!
Is this a worthwhile upgrade to the ninebot max g30? I love mine but there's a lot to love about this new air. The range is a pause for thought, but I like the lighter weight(20kg is my limit), speed, tires andlove impressions from any who have ridden both?
I just ordered this scooter tonight. I had a bad experience with the roadrunner RS5 and just want something simple to ride around the neighborhood on. It’s a downgrade from roadrunner but it will suffice for the simple paved riding I want to do.
Do you have a phone mount on that side. I ran into a problem where the phone mount was moving over and contacting the lever. Definitely reach out to Apollo and see what they say. -Paul
Im having trouble going faster than 22mph on my apollo air 2023, i tryied to change my max speed in the setting to 28mph but it didn't work. Am i just misunderstanding what it means?
This an odd question when they gonna start using new battery technology? Or in other words when is the e-scooter undustry gonna start doing that because as a owner of alot of e-scooters that worries me of lithium ion explosion. The common explosions is when charging the scooter not necessarily because of the type of charger they can blow up just simply from just charging it.
I'm not sure we'll ever get to the single motor version. We have one, but have never fully tested it. The one criticism I have of the single motor version, is that because it only has one regen brake instead of two like the dual motor version, the over all braking feel isn't as good as the dual motor version. The single motor Apollo City we have is a very early model though, so the drum brakes may have gotten stronger since then. -Paul
If you had a choice as a new scooter owner would you recommend the G2 max or this scooter? I have the option to buy either as they are around the same price atm. Thanks in advance.
Do you know how steep the hills are? During the range test, most of my hills were 4 to 6% grade (6ft of elevation gain per 100 ft forward) and it kept its speed pretty well with me (165lb rider) on board. The test hill you see it on is 10% grade and it slowed down to about 8mph up that one. -Paul
I'd have to ask Mitchell, I haven't ridden the NIU Air yet, since he tested that one in Germany. My guess is that ride quality is better on the Apollo and of course, weight is better on the NIU. Style points are high for both. -Paul
ninebot g2 max is better 👌🏻 have lil more range lil better acceleration and suspsenion at rear not only at front its only heavier and maybe have weaker steam mechnaism and yea is less portable but like for me i take g2 max 👍🏻
They're pretty close. The Air 2023 is a little faster and goes a little further, and feels a little nicer in terms of the over all finish, but they're both great scooters. The one performance difference that stands out is the F2 Pro has a fairly long stopping distance from 15mph at 17 ft. -Paul
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Have you done a review of the navee v50
Not working 😢
Ended up ordering the City Pro for myself and next the Air for my wife. Great channel to help me through all the choices guys. Thanks!
Thank you so much for your support! -Paul
How is the range on it after having it for a little while?
Just spent a few hours on the Air 2023, awesome scooter! I have the Max G2 as well but the Apollo is way more enjoyable to ride. Even without the rear suspension.
Right on!
Have you ridden inmotion S1?
I get 32mls range at 15.5mph including some hills I'm 15st 9lbs
@winniepeg2020 I'm only 10lbs same as my 🐈. 😂😅
Thanks for the review. Rider Guide has become a trusted source on all things e-scooters and rider gear. I am currently leasing the Unagi Voyager going into month 3. The 2023 Apollo Air is high on my list for all the reasons Rider Guide has tested. I ride BART daily so this would be a great upgrade getting me to my destinations in the City. More importantly, weight and ride comfort is major factor for my needs. One more thing. The visual and local landmarks are awesome! Thanks for repin' The Bay!
Thank you for your support! -Paul
I bought this scooter a month or so ago and am loving it so far, this review really helped me decide so thanks
That is one smooth and sleek looking ride. I would not mind attaching a wheelchair to that. FYI I use a wheelchair. At the moment I attached one of my old wheelchairs to a Evercross H5 with four ubolts and a forearm crutch. I will be emailing yall a picture just incase anyone who is always in a manual wheelchair wants to ride.
That's awesome! -Paul
Awesome review im glad i came to rider fest. The crew at Apollo were awesome!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I like scooters with handle bar turn signals 🎉
I like the easier left break for smoothly adjusting speed as well as the handle grips that won't move. Seems like they are baking a lot of nice stuff into the scooter without raising the price.
This was one of the scooters that I was considering when buying my first scooter. Sadly I didn't choose this one wnd ended up regreting it. I want this one now!
It’s a very good scooter for sure!
Great review, thanks for all the info.
Thanks so much! -Paul
Great to see bar-end turn signals making a default appearance on a scooter
Yes, with rubber tips.These break off very easily!!!! Terrible finishing. 😮
I like the end turn signals!
You drop it & breaks very easily!!!😮.
Needs rubber tips,like an other scooter company has done it.
Apollo always misses something!!!Sadly 😮
I love how much range you get!
I was surprised how much further it went. I think part of it is due to the tubeless tires. -Paul
How much range do you get on full throttle?
@@aidanscracked831mine only lasted 16 miles on full throttle. I wish I had known that scooter companies over rate their range dramatically. Brand new gota return it and just go with the emove cruiser
Its gotta tear y'all up to ,be forced to ride and play with all those scooter options! 😢 To quote "Annie" its a hard knock life for us🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’ve lost count but I think we have more than 150 on hand right now. -Paul
This looks like smooth riding!
It is! -Paul
Another option to consider in my search for a scooter.
Nice! Happy hunting! -Paul
Seems like a nice commuter option. You want a smooth ride and braking - nothing worse than being around cars and having a scooter that jumps at starts or stops
Scooter with all the bells and whistles
I love the bar end lights! I always feel like I'm invisible to cars on my scooter
BREAKS OFF EASILY.😮.
Looks like a very comfortable ride
Thank you for the detailed review. I like how it can handle the city streets
No problem!
10" wheels 🎉❤😊.
This for providing the very informative review.
Thanks so much
I appreciate you putting the £ equivalent on your reviews. However, in the UK, the price turns out to be the same as Dollars. Example : Kaabo Mantis King GT is priced at around $2200, (a scooter I really like) and in the UK, it's about the same as a dollar price : £2200. ($2670)
Sorry about that. We intentionally deleted it in the previous review, but it seems to have crept back in. -Paul
Nice! Has good speed.
Hi you are one off the best professional scooter connoisseur 👍🏽 I would love to buy the scooter only thing is missing option to change your handlebars to be smaller and the option the speed up to 28 MPH. As an option put in a code and you get that speed it would be a win-win
Thank you so much! -Paul
Thank you all for not just reviewing any and every new scooter on the market. Love that you vette the cheap brands.
So when’s the new Mantis King coming out???
No plans on that yet!
I bet you guys are super pumped to check out the new model "rover" that slots between the air and the city for power and weight. I'm sure you will have a pre production model by March. It will be a dual 350W motor with a top speed around 27-28mph and only 5-8lbs heavier than the Air 23.
Looking forward for sure!
Yeah the air weights 38 lb and the rover or now call the "GO" weights 50 lb. That's not so portable,
Thx for the great info. I went by purely customer reviews buying a scooter for my son last year and regret it. In literally weeks, my son’s hiboy seemed to have issues. Flat spots on tires, throttle sporadically changed what top speed was possible depending on the day, cheap plastic parts falling off, just a poor choice. This one looks like my choice to replace for him for Christmas. Thanks again.
Glad I could help!
Hi thanks for taking the time out for us. 🎉 With all of the scooters 🙌🏽 I like the Apollo but top speed needs to be 25 mph price is good handlebars too long for committing need more lights 🚥
Hmm tempting!
This will be great for my daughter who wants to experience Escooter culture
For sure. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide and she will be attending the RiderFest 2023 with me to watch and possible assist with track officiating.
Great review I watch all your videos these reviews are so on point and cover every detail
Glad you like them! Thanks for stopping by.
Great looking scooter - I kind of dig the throwback BMX-style handlebars!
Some really exciting upgrades! Looks like a great scooter
The Buzze F450 desperatedly needs a review somewhere on UA-cam, btw.
We will check it out!
I like the inclusion of bar end signals, you don't really see that on ebikes or scooters even though they should, I'm wondering though is the one included commercially available?
Yes
omg the reliability is finally added to the review section!!!! I believe some new brands will be really bad on this part, like NIU, have seen so many posts on reddit say that no customer service at all in U.S. 😂
Very nice review!
Thanks so much! -Paul
Bar end style turn signals 🙌🏾
Wondering what it would look like if u dropped the scooter on its handles
Seeing what they're doing with the city and the air, I think the new phantom is gonna be interesting to see. I suspect the phantom will get the tubeless self healing tires as well. My guess is the 2024 phantom will get these upgrades.
Hi Paul, good to see your videos. One quick question: Segway or Apollo: For durability, reliability, maintenance and after sales service? Thanks
Would go with the Apollo! Great value here
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thanks for the reply. Then why there is so much bad rummors of Apollo specially on reddit?
U are the best review expert my friend
Wow, thanks
Great review, thanks guys - hey which rides better on bricks and cobbles, the 2023 Air or the new Segway Max G2?
Can’t go wrong with either honestly! We love the Air!
When the Uk finally legalise these I have a dilemma, Segway g2 max, Apollo air/city, or pure advance (be great if RG could get hold of pure). My one gripe with most of the commuter scooters is the lack of folding handlebars making them as wide as a bike so not as portable. Perhaps the folding handlebars from the navee n65 could be implemented! Other than that really like Apollo design and fact they go for ip66!
Avoid apollo.
@@JSythe how come mate?
Damn. Very nice
Thanks for watching and commenting John. -Paul
Looks like a smooth ride!
It sure is.
I would love to ride this every where it’s sweet
I cant wait to hear about the inmotion rs with pmt tires... The question isnt should I buy it but when?
I'll let you know. Hopefully I won't crash again. It's been 1.5 weeks and my shoulder still isn't working well. -Paul
I'm excited for the Pro but this seems perfect for my wife 😀
It really does feel like a mini-Pro in terms of the fit and finish and the awesome-feeling grips. -Paul
I’m looking at this scooter for my kid in college. How would this handle hill grades in Berkeley?
For hills we would recommend the Apollo Go it’s slightly more expensive but twice the scooter. geni.us/ApolloGo Use Code RIDERGUIDE for $50 off
Thank you for the great information.
Thank you so much for your support! -Paul
I was on my way home from buying the segway f2pro when one of these came gliding past me in the parking lot it looked awsome
Both great scooters, but I agree, the Air is exceptionally good looking and they really took the cockpit to the next level on this version. -Paul
Is this a worthwhile upgrade to the ninebot max g30? I love mine but there's a lot to love about this new air. The range is a pause for thought, but I like the lighter weight(20kg is my limit), speed, tires andlove impressions from any who have ridden both?
Yes it’s an upgrade , but check out the Apollo Go it’s even better geni.us/ApolloGo use code RIDERGUIDE to get $50 off either the air or the go
Seems like a great addition!
We agree! Thanks for stopping by.
Looks like a comfortable ride.
It really is!
Looks like a lot of fun!
It sure is!
This might be my next scooter.
I"'m confused between NIU Kqi 300p vs Apollo Air 2023. Which one would you suggest?
Both are great options but we would go for the air. Get $50 off with code RIDERGUIDE
Cool scoot. Hopefully, I can win the drawing.
I just ordered this scooter tonight. I had a bad experience with the roadrunner RS5 and just want something simple to ride around the neighborhood on. It’s a downgrade from roadrunner but it will suffice for the simple paved riding I want to do.
Hope you enjoy it!
This is awesome
Thanks for watching and commenting! -Paul
Did ya test the 2024 version?
Yes it has minor upgrades! Recommended
Love to try this
My scooters regenerate brake lever stays down when I press it and the scooter some times it does a thing and it starts shaking
Do you have a phone mount on that side. I ran into a problem where the phone mount was moving over and contacting the lever. Definitely reach out to Apollo and see what they say. -Paul
that's awesome!
Thanks for watching and for your support! -Paul
For 2024, ghost needs all the upgrades they're putting on the new scooters, without having to buy a kit.
Interesting idea!
I'm 6'10". Is this thing too small for me, or can it handle bigger riders?
Thus one would be too big! Try the new Emove cruiser is has expandable stem
geni.us/CruiserV2 use code RIDERGUIDE for max discount
wow what great scooter
Thanks!
Wow! Thank you so much! You rock! -Paul
On the website it says 55km range is this true? Or is the 33km test as much as you’ll get?
The tested range is real life range!
Im having trouble going faster than 22mph on my apollo air 2023, i tryied to change my max speed in the setting to 28mph but it didn't work. Am i just misunderstanding what it means?
I think that’s the max speed but that model!
I'm stuck deceding between the Apollo Air and the Segway Ninebot MAX G2. Which would you recommend between these two?
Both are awesome! Can’t go wrong with either.
This may be a silly question, but are there aftermarket seats that can be added to this model? I have seen other commuter scooters that offer them
We have not seen the aftermarket seats!
looks great hope to win
Getting one
You might have just helped sell me one of these!
Cool! Use Code RIDERGUIDE for $50 off
This an odd question when they gonna start using new battery technology? Or in other words when is the e-scooter undustry gonna start doing that because as a owner of alot of e-scooters that worries me of lithium ion explosion. The common explosions is when charging the scooter not necessarily because of the type of charger they can blow up just simply from just charging it.
Hopefully soon! Would be awesome
god i love these upgrades
In the video, the speed limiter is set to 62mph. Can the scooter go that fast?
The single motor scooters dont go that fast!
Great info
Glad it was helpful!
thats pretty sweet!!
Sure is!
may i have your opinions for nanrobot brand? or specificly d6+2.0?
We have not done any full reviews on that brand!
How is the suspension? And will you make a Apollo City 23 single motor reviews
I'm not sure we'll ever get to the single motor version. We have one, but have never fully tested it. The one criticism I have of the single motor version, is that because it only has one regen brake instead of two like the dual motor version, the over all braking feel isn't as good as the dual motor version. The single motor Apollo City we have is a very early model though, so the drum brakes may have gotten stronger since then. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I live in Oakland! Is there any chance I could come buy and try the Apollo City
If you had a choice as a new scooter owner would you recommend the G2 max or this scooter? I have the option to buy either as they are around the same price atm. Thanks in advance.
Never mind just realised the Air has a 100KG rider limit, i am just over that :'(
We would pick the air! The weight limit is not a problem. You can use code RIDERGUIDE for $50 off
is there way possible you guys review a yume hawk?
No plans currently!
Nice
Thanks
Their lightest, but still very heavy in it's class
Lighter options are available
Awesome
I live in Burnaby with lots of hill how would it do for my brother?
Do you know how steep the hills are? During the range test, most of my hills were 4 to 6% grade (6ft of elevation gain per 100 ft forward) and it kept its speed pretty well with me (165lb rider) on board. The test hill you see it on is 10% grade and it slowed down to about 8mph up that one. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide most of the hills here are 15-20% hill
nice
Thanks! -Paul
Stay frosty?????? Hahahaha 🗣️
Nice.
I have both. MAx G2 a LOT better with the double hydraulique back suspension
You have the 2023 Air? The ride is noticeably better for 2023 than 2022x but it’s true it doesn’t have rear suspension. -Paul
That's why i will receive my new City Pro on tuesday in Quebec. Hope riding a bit before winter here :)
How do I get 1 to buy. I'm in New york
geni.us/ApolloAir2023
Use code RIDERGUIDE for $50 off
Niu Air vs Apollo Air?
I'd have to ask Mitchell, I haven't ridden the NIU Air yet, since he tested that one in Germany. My guess is that ride quality is better on the Apollo and of course, weight is better on the NIU. Style points are high for both. -Paul
ninebot g2 max is better 👌🏻 have lil more range lil better acceleration and suspsenion at rear not only at front its only heavier and maybe have weaker steam mechnaism and yea is less portable but like for me i take g2 max 👍🏻
Agree
Both are excellent options
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide depend on needs its better than g1 but worse than g2 except portsbility 👍🏻
Why do you never mention or review Hiboy?
We have reviewed it a few times!
Apollo Air 2023 or the Segway F2 PRO?
They're pretty close. The Air 2023 is a little faster and goes a little further, and feels a little nicer in terms of the over all finish, but they're both great scooters. The one performance difference that stands out is the F2 Pro has a fairly long stopping distance from 15mph at 17 ft. -Paul
Just for the Regen throttle alone, I think the Air is superior!
Is this water proof
IP66 Water resistance :-) (which means highly water resistant, and one of the highest on the scooter market)
Resistant