The best part about this film is that his son says he wants to go into the family business, implying that when he's older he plans on killing his father and stealing his job.
YES! I totally thought that too. Like this kid knows the truth, and he's got it alllll planned out. :P That's why his dad implemented so many more safety backups, he knows what his son is capable of. :P
if the elfs were watching him beforehand, and they decided on Tim Allen as the new Santa. does this imply that the elfs did a coup against the original Santa? was he assassinated?
@@quitequaintq5830 look up the Pixar theory and also the analysis made by mat pat. Cars takes place after Wall-E. Humans die off slowly but before cars it was the movie A Bug's life where Mat Pat proves how the cars aren't really cars but evolved insects. You can look it up.
This is probably the most loose caravan of garbage ever no real plot synopsis, breakdowns of specific scenes or anything, Just some Egg trivia and 2 men theorizing that Santa is a spirit hopping vessel to vessel. 10/10
That's literally every episode... They just ramble on about nothing at all and barely talk about the actual film. It's why I put them on to go to sleep.
@Sean Lewis that makes sense,I thought in this universe that after the OG Santa die his son with help from the other Holiday characters and I forgot what they’re called anyway the justice of holidays people made The Santa Claus as a way to keep Santa around in case of the Santa Claus who is currently in charge dies without an air or someone
@Sean Lewis pretty sure that’s more just done as part of the contract as the “you wear the suit you become him” thing is on the business card that you’re meant to pick up and read
Okay, here's an idea: A The Santa Clause prequel starring Harrison Ford as the Santa that Scott Calvin kills. He'll be fed up with being Santa, which is why he just gives a nice little wave before fading away (he doesn't care about death), and the elves are fed up with him, which is why they don't care that a close friend was just murdered by the Home Improvement guy.
agreed. I like the show, obviously. I listen every week, but its clearly criticism from people who never wrote or created any fiction. It's an issue with a lot of UA-cam reviewers. There will be some logical issues with a fantasy narrative - because its not an adaptation of truth. It didn't really happen and couldn't really happen. Anyway, frustrating rant over. Also, I understand they are doing it for comedic effect.
@@seangalvin3196 I think it's solely for comedic effect. I just think they do it so often that I can almost predict everything they're going to say. It may also be a product of the fact that I've been listening to these guys talk at movies for 7 years, so eventually I'm going to catch on to their schtick.
@@calebmurphy9406 I know what you mean. I too have been listening since late 2014 and I remember it being very fun and refreshing. In the last year or two ive soured on the pod a bit and thought it changed. Thats probably not the case though. I, more likely, have become tired of the same bits and jokes after 5 years. I know its not popular to criticize the show, especially not in the FB group, but i dont know anyone in my real life that listens to it to share my thoughts.
@@spg7480 I'm glad I'm not the only one. I actually unsubscribed for a few months. I got tired of the "Can't remember the title of a thing so you just describe one specific detail of it" joke. I got tired of the "James just starts saying some nonsense in a slightly high-pitched voice for no reason" joke. I got tired of the "Asking irrelevant logical questions about fictional media" joke. I got tired of Mason trying to force every joke into a running gag throughout every video/podcast/commentary. I just feel like they've really stagnated creatively. There's also the whole streaming service scam but that's a different conversation.
@@calebmurphy9406the lads themselves aren’t too bad. But my. God. The fans. The fans suck so hard lmao. Always forcing pathetic attempts at jokes, like blue harvest. And I get it. I get drawing it out is the ‘joke’. Just not funny. Please don’t tell me you’re one of those absolute morons who post that bs
If Denny's were willing to pay Tim Allen for that scene in the movie, then they probably paid James also for this horrible story he told, so congrats James and Maso for your hundred thousand dollars!
I think this is the movie that cemented my fascination with body horror. I never thought I would find a direct line between Tim Allen and Junji Ito but here we are.
I am so happy you covered this, but I think you gave me therapy here. I never realized that I loved movies where theres a dead beat dad trying to do better. It really speaks to my childhood.
If Santa cant shave his beard, maybe he cant kill/hurt himself, like deadpool Just waiting for someone to confuse him for a muggler and blasting his brain to kingdom come
So if whoever puts on the suit becomes Santa, if Santa kills himself, the suit either lies there until someone else puts it on or maybe the suit presents itself to the best candidate.
I wanna know what happens to the previous Santa's widow? And the previous-previous Widow Claus?!? And so on. Really hoping this is addressed in the next episode.
I think the thing about who becomes Santa is that it is their destiny to be Santa. It doesn't all happen by chance but rather fate picks someone who needs to be Santa. For example, in this case Santa was someone who needed to spend more time with their son. It also made Scott become a better man.
Yeah but then Scott essentially abandoned his son for 9 years because he focused too much on being Santa, and then Scott continued that mistake and neglected his wife whilst she was pregnant
Turns out the Disney+ series revealed this was kinda spot on. Scott Calvin was picked out to become santa and the "clauses" were just made up/contrived as tests to prove his worth.
12:42 Did not think that the Swansea Denny's (from Old South Wales) would make it into a Mr Sunday Movies retrospective, but there you. Incredible. Da iawn.
This might actually be the greatest Caravan of Garbage I've ever seen. Fantastic editing from Ben, these two just digging way too deep into a children's movie's lore, and his Denny story.
5:07 The words "Maybe he's getting shot every year" sounding like a revelation James has only just now considered just cracks my shit up. These videos are now traditional Christmastime viewing for me.
Harrison Ford as Santa: "Get off my sleigh!" Denny's had a scandal in the early 1990s where they had been making black people pay for their meals before receiving them, when normally they don't make you pay until you're done eating.
I remember watching "another bloomin' christmas" as a small British child, where Santa hates his job and decides to go on holiday for the year and goes around the world in a red reindeer drawn campervan. I feel this is what harrison ford would do as santa.
This is my favourite Christmas movie, I watch it every year without fail. As corny as it is, I always get chills at the end. Also, I can't believe this movie actually KILLED Santa. It's a little dark for a children's movie and I love it.
Yes, Jingle All The Way also had that "father doesn't spend enough time with his son" plot. That's why Arnie goes on a journey to battle Sinbad and get the elusive Turbo Man action figure for young Anakin Skywalker. Being a cyborg from the future, he sees his kid is gonna become Darth Vader because his dad missed too many of his karate school practices, and that Turbo Man doll is the only thing preventing the rise of both Skynet and the Galactic Empire.
"You know in some variations of Sherlock Holmes?" (Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century pops up) Right in the nostalgic feels. I thought I was the only person who remembered that show.
This is one of my favorite deep theory videos. Ever. And one i never thought i needed. I love that you implied that the elves had plotted for years to murder the current Santa when a better replacement was found.
I actually have always loved this movie. Big Christmas tradition is to watch this and a couple others films during Christmas. This movie has a lot of magical moments. The whole North pole feels very warm and magical too. Thats what I love about it.
I never knew about the elves just hanging out throughout the world!! I definitely think they were eyeing him out for the job. Maybe they set old Santa up! 😱
"This was presumably about his time in jail for cocaine trafficking" As a matter of fact, I have read the book and yes, indeed it is (along with the rest of his life up to that point -- it's basically an anecdotal biography).
So I'm just MINDING MY OWN BUSINESS, watching a UA-cam video about The Santa Clause of all things, and out of NOWHERE at 3:01 I see my favorite anime of all time pop up on screen with Lelouch wearing a Santa hat. Thank you Ben or whoever did that. It made my whole week.
If l remember correctly in the 2nd movie we learn santa can't stay santa without getting married. So that means the santa that died in the beginning of this movies was married. So what happened to Mrs Claus? Did the elves hate her too?
There's a scene in the novelisation, accompanied by a still from the movie so it was presumably filmed but cut - Scott sees a gallery of photos of past Santas and asks why there were so many. Bernard admits most Santas don't last long as it's so hazardous, in fact many/most Santas don't survive their first year. Charlie tells him that if that's the case, he doesn't want his Dad to do it. This then leads into the scene with the new safety features. So basically the elves aren't sad about the last Santa because they barely knew him and are used to new Santas showing up each year. This makes sense with the line in the second movie about how much happier kids are since Scott became Santa and why the elves have forgotten about "The Mrs Clause" - no Santa for the last century or so has lasted more than a couple of years so it's never really come up before!
@@adamgreenwood9785 at least The Santa Clauses Disney+ series seems to be finally answering the questions we’ve all been having. It is disturbing to think though that almost every Santa before Scott died in their first year
That Denny's was in Ontario Canada Ben should recognize if he's from Ontario that there's a beer store sign in the back, which is only in Ontario, of the establishing shot for Denny's
I put this video on thinking "Yeah sure why not" and I'm delighted that it's just been James ranting about the existential horror of The Santa Clause for over ten minutes. Brilliant.
Nah, Denny’s was accurately depicted. Every American city and town has excellent diners you should visit, instead. It would be like going to Italy and visiting Olive Garden.
The reason that the Elves don't care is because the Santa spirit (Klaus) takes over the host and the host becomes Santa which is the reason the Elves don't care because it's still their master's mind, body, and soul.
I'm not the biggest fan of denny's but it's not as if there is only 1 in America. Some locations are better than others,which I'm sure is the case wherever you live
*just wanted to drop a quick line to say: the visual references (Legal Eagle, Synecdoche New York, &c.) are things of true beauty. props to Editor Ben. ...
You won’t be surprised to know Tim Allen himself (off of this) wants to address these plot holes specifically - especially when the Elves hated old Santa.
So... did that new Disney+ series get made because of this episode? I might respect it a little more if that's true. I still probably won't watch it, but I like that idea.
@@ASpooneyBard thing is the questions they bring up in this video are all questions people have been asking for decades about this universe. Honestly it’s good of Tim Allen to return to the franchise and endure the makeup process again, gotta commend him for that
Can every Caravan of Garbage from now on feature Mr Sunday and Mason trying and failing to keep the video child friendly? It was another layer of humour I didn't know I needed in these videos.
With the third movie in mind. I always thought that the original Santa that Tim Allen replaced went back to the time he became Santa and lived out his life peacefully with his family.
My Denny's story was that this older dude was serving us. By the time he served our last dish, we saw his thumb and it was dead (the entire top half of the last digit). Then we saw an imprint on our friends pancake. We all let out a collective sigh as we began to eat our breakfast
This is like one of the least toxic channels on UA-cam. U can kind of tell cuz of how little dislikes u have u literally got twelve and almost 3 thousand likes atm and that’s the biggest difference ratio I’ve ever seen. It’s crazy how u say your opinions and don’t offend.
I never noticed the elves in the classroom or watching him from the street at the beginning before. You just blew my mind. I gotta look for that next time I see the movie on tv.
@@spacemanstanly Multiple “garbages”? Lol. No, but I suppose the argument could be made that the formal title is “Caravan of Garbage,” so to pluralize, you’d make the whole thing multiple. But I still think “Caravans of Garbage” sounds better. Like “attorneys general.” 😂
@@expensivesuit7286 yeah, garbage is not a count noun so you don't use a plural...actually i agree with your whole summation but i have to ask do you really prefer 'Attorneys general' or was that a joke? Coz that sounds possessive to me 🤔
@@GGMCUKAGAIN I definitely approve “attorneys general,” because it’s correct. Like “sisters-in-law” (not “sister-in-laws”). I would never joke about such things. :) EDIT: I’ve just learned, after checking my grammar guides, that in the UK, “attorney-generals” is preferred. But “attorneys general” is correct in the US.
@MrSundayMovies I’m convinced people watched this video before writing the new “The Santa Clauses” series on Disney+ bc they address all of the things mentioned her and attempt to explain the lore.
Excited for next week... for some reason as a kid we had The Santa Clause 2 and ONLY The Santa Clause 2 on DVD. I didn't even realise there was a first one for the longest time. But I do remember loving the second one a lot!
The best part about this film is that his son says he wants to go into the family business, implying that when he's older he plans on killing his father and stealing his job.
He could just wait until Scott no longer wants to be Santa, have him initiate The Escape Clause and get the coat before Scott can
There are serious Highlander mythological undertones to the premise.
@@frambojan it’s more of a demonic possession thing where the demon switches hosts
YES! I totally thought that too. Like this kid knows the truth, and he's got it alllll planned out. :P That's why his dad implemented so many more safety backups, he knows what his son is capable of. :P
@@frambojan it think the Santa is almost like the green lantern ring but lazier
if the elfs were watching him beforehand, and they decided on Tim Allen as the new Santa. does this imply that the elfs did a coup against the original Santa? was he assassinated?
The Santa Coup(e)
Would explain why Santa was being so loud despite having years of experience, the elves framed him
the elfs were cia psyops
The elves are in charge, Santa is just a figurehead.
Santa didn't die by hitting the ground. An elite elf sniper shot him as he was falling
"The mother who has a name" is the best character in the Santa Claus movies.
The Santa Clause is like the Bee Movie or Cars. The more you unravel it, the more insane it becomes.
Let me guess.... ever thought about cars make babies?
@@goopy95 or what happened to all the humans in that universe. 🤔
What's insane about that two movies?
@@quitequaintq5830 look up the Pixar theory and also the analysis made by mat pat. Cars takes place after Wall-E. Humans die off slowly but before cars it was the movie A Bug's life where Mat Pat proves how the cars aren't really cars but evolved insects. You can look it up.
@@goopy95 do baby cars have pre assigned societal roles or do they get to choose; ergo are all the military vehicles basically child soldiers?
This is probably the most loose caravan of garbage ever no real plot synopsis, breakdowns of specific scenes or anything, Just some Egg trivia and 2 men theorizing that Santa is a spirit hopping vessel to vessel. 10/10
Also The Dennys’ anecdote
Theorising*
That's literally every episode... They just ramble on about nothing at all and barely talk about the actual film.
It's why I put them on to go to sleep.
Editing James into a protest scene when he was "visiting America" is one of the funniest edits I have ever seen.
Chef's. Kiss.
Ben really out did himself with editing this video! Well done sir!
He also likes anime jugging by the Code Gessas Clip and FMA clip he sicked in. xD
He always does
I always appreciate a Bus Jackson clip!
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The Santa Clause movies are crystal clear: all Santas, except maybe the first, have killed at least one person
The first probably made a sacrifice to some demon for the powers
First is worst
Not to be the no fun guy but Santa could just die accidentally. And then whoever happens to be nearby becomes Santa. Doesn’t have to be murder
@Sean Lewis that makes sense,I thought in this universe that after the OG Santa die his son with help from the other Holiday characters and I forgot what they’re called anyway the justice of holidays people made The Santa Claus as a way to keep Santa around in case of the Santa Claus who is currently in charge dies without an air or someone
@Sean Lewis pretty sure that’s more just done as part of the contract as the “you wear the suit you become him” thing is on the business card that you’re meant to pick up and read
Okay, here's an idea: A The Santa Clause prequel starring Harrison Ford as the Santa that Scott Calvin kills. He'll be fed up with being Santa, which is why he just gives a nice little wave before fading away (he doesn't care about death), and the elves are fed up with him, which is why they don't care that a close friend was just murdered by the Home Improvement guy.
@Chandler Burse more like a film about Christmas at Harrison Fords house am I right?
Honestly, that's a great idea
AKA: Two grown Australian men get way too invested in this Tim Allen Christmas movie for children. And we love every second of it.
I loved how into the bag he got 😂
James & Mason go on another adventure to find Pepe Silvia.
Honestly curious why you specified that they’re Australian?
@@akashajones6079 🤷♂️
@@akashajones6079 if you’re not American, then Americans will disregard your entire personality except for where you’re from
I need the next two films to be covered, the sinister twist you’ve spun on these films that I have fond memories of are simply delightful.
I think you'll like that bit
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If a Tim Allen Santa dies in a forest, and no one is there to see it.... then who becomes Santa?
Nobody
I guess maybe the elves go to pick up the suit and hand it over to whoever they think should be Santa
Logan Paul
He respawns in the naughtiest kid's fireplace
A bear?😂
Mr. Sunday Movies: Asking logical questions about silly entertainment made for children since 2013.
agreed. I like the show, obviously. I listen every week, but its clearly criticism from people who never wrote or created any fiction. It's an issue with a lot of UA-cam reviewers. There will be some logical issues with a fantasy narrative - because its not an adaptation of truth. It didn't really happen and couldn't really happen. Anyway, frustrating rant over. Also, I understand they are doing it for comedic effect.
@@seangalvin3196 I think it's solely for comedic effect. I just think they do it so often that I can almost predict everything they're going to say. It may also be a product of the fact that I've been listening to these guys talk at movies for 7 years, so eventually I'm going to catch on to their schtick.
@@calebmurphy9406 I know what you mean. I too have been listening since late 2014 and I remember it being very fun and refreshing. In the last year or two ive soured on the pod a bit and thought it changed. Thats probably not the case though. I, more likely, have become tired of the same bits and jokes after 5 years. I know its not popular to criticize the show, especially not in the FB group, but i dont know anyone in my real life that listens to it to share my thoughts.
@@spg7480 I'm glad I'm not the only one. I actually unsubscribed for a few months. I got tired of the "Can't remember the title of a thing so you just describe one specific detail of it" joke. I got tired of the "James just starts saying some nonsense in a slightly high-pitched voice for no reason" joke. I got tired of the "Asking irrelevant logical questions about fictional media" joke. I got tired of Mason trying to force every joke into a running gag throughout every video/podcast/commentary. I just feel like they've really stagnated creatively.
There's also the whole streaming service scam but that's a different conversation.
@@calebmurphy9406the lads themselves aren’t too bad. But my. God. The fans. The fans suck so hard lmao.
Always forcing pathetic attempts at jokes, like blue harvest. And I get it. I get drawing it out is the ‘joke’. Just not funny.
Please don’t tell me you’re one of those absolute morons who post that bs
"It also might be that they're not purchasing gifts, and there's some kind of spell where they think they are."
(SHOWS CODE GEASS FOOTAGE)
Also the FMAB footage.
Can’t watch any clip from that show without thinking “I’M AT SOUP!”
@@shinkaiatsuya950 Especially one of the saddest moments in it. The saddest is well...the sad “dog”
If Denny's were willing to pay Tim Allen for that scene in the movie, then they probably paid James also for this horrible story he told, so congrats James and Maso for your hundred thousand dollars!
"Denny's - We Simply Don't Give a Fuck"
I find it very wholesome that Mason is going out of his way and genuinely reminding the kids watching that Santa is real
The previous Santa's death was 100% an inside job
"he's not santa he's a vessel" omfg i'm dying XD
I think this is the movie that cemented my fascination with body horror. I never thought I would find a direct line between Tim Allen and Junji Ito but here we are.
I am so happy you covered this, but I think you gave me therapy here. I never realized that I loved movies where theres a dead beat dad trying to do better. It really speaks to my childhood.
Its so weird that there are so many Vulcans helping Santa Claus in this movie...
Wow dude.
Highly illogical.
> who’s surviving 2020?
Midget vulcans
@@ratbat1072 child vulcans slavary.
I loved the third movie
*Santa Claus: the flashpoint paradox.*
Question for James and Maso: what happens in this universe if Santa kills himself?
Zombie Santa, obviously.
If Santa cant shave his beard, maybe he cant kill/hurt himself, like deadpool
Just waiting for someone to confuse him for a muggler and blasting his brain to kingdom come
Santa Immortal
So if whoever puts on the suit becomes Santa, if Santa kills himself, the suit either lies there until someone else puts it on or maybe the suit presents itself to the best candidate.
I wanna know what happens to the previous Santa's widow? And the previous-previous Widow Claus?!? And so on.
Really hoping this is addressed in the next episode.
This is just a 20 min James rant and I love it.
I unironically love all three of these moves AND Polar Express.
I love the first one, but I dislike the rest.
The first two are must watches for me come Christmas season
I think the thing about who becomes Santa is that it is their destiny to be Santa. It doesn't all happen by chance but rather fate picks someone who needs to be Santa. For example, in this case Santa was someone who needed to spend more time with their son. It also made Scott become a better man.
Yeah but then Scott essentially abandoned his son for 9 years because he focused too much on being Santa, and then Scott continued that mistake and neglected his wife whilst she was pregnant
Turns out the Disney+ series revealed this was kinda spot on. Scott Calvin was picked out to become santa and the "clauses" were just made up/contrived as tests to prove his worth.
“Here are the other actors they considered: *lists every actor in existence*“
12:42 Did not think that the Swansea Denny's (from Old South Wales) would make it into a Mr Sunday Movies retrospective, but there you. Incredible. Da iawn.
You should cover the Jim Carrey Grinch
Childhood classic.
I hope they do
Hey, there's at least three movies so they could do another trilogy of Christmas movies
They should cover every Grinch film
This might actually be the greatest Caravan of Garbage I've ever seen.
Fantastic editing from Ben, these two just digging way too deep into a children's movie's lore, and his Denny story.
This is maybe THE christmas movie of my childhood it gives me so much nostalgia
For me its Muppet Christmas Carol
My family still watches the first one together every as we put up the tree, it’s a tradition.
5:07 The words "Maybe he's getting shot every year" sounding like a revelation James has only just now considered just cracks my shit up.
These videos are now traditional Christmastime viewing for me.
Harrison Ford as Santa: "Get off my sleigh!"
Denny's had a scandal in the early 1990s where they had been making black people pay for their meals before receiving them, when normally they don't make you pay until you're done eating.
Ohhhhh! That’s where that dennies is racist thing comes from! Thanks lol
This Santa curse is basically being Davy Jones from Pirates of the Caribbean..just with better living conditions 😂😂
Danny Gonzalez made a funny song about this movie, “I wanna kill Santa Claus”
Hey Greg
came here to say this! Think they'd appreciate it
I'm not ashamed to admit that at almost 40 years old I still enjoy these movies.
But you should be! (60)
The Denny’s tangent was amazing, also, props to Ben for this editing!!
I love how serious this was handled. Editing was perfect too.
Last time I was this early to a Weekly Planet video Maso had an Iron Man goate.
I remember watching "another bloomin' christmas" as a small British child, where Santa hates his job and decides to go on holiday for the year and goes around the world in a red reindeer drawn campervan. I feel this is what harrison ford would do as santa.
Is that "Father Christmas", based on the book by the guy who wrote and drew "The Snowman"?
@@DomoftheDoctor yeah probably
This is my favourite Christmas movie, I watch it every year without fail.
As corny as it is, I always get chills at the end. Also, I can't believe this movie actually KILLED Santa.
It's a little dark for a children's movie and I love it.
Yes, Jingle All The Way also had that "father doesn't spend enough time with his son" plot. That's why Arnie goes on a journey to battle Sinbad and get the elusive Turbo Man action figure for young Anakin Skywalker. Being a cyborg from the future, he sees his kid is gonna become Darth Vader because his dad missed too many of his karate school practices, and that Turbo Man doll is the only thing preventing the rise of both Skynet and the Galactic Empire.
This.
James having a mental breakdown over a mediocre Christmas movie starring Tim Allen is way more entertaining than the actual movie is.
"You know in some variations of Sherlock Holmes?" (Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century pops up) Right in the nostalgic feels. I thought I was the only person who remembered that show.
And at then Tim Allen asks “What am I some kind of Santa Claus?”
"this is Mrs. Clause, she has my back"
Imagine if Tim Allen was in Suicide Squad
Can you guys PLEASE do the Mike Myers cat in the hat for caravan of garbage??
One of the best Horror films ever
This is one of my favorite deep theory videos. Ever. And one i never thought i needed. I love that you implied that the elves had plotted for years to murder the current Santa when a better replacement was found.
I actually have always loved this movie. Big Christmas tradition is to watch this and a couple others films during Christmas. This movie has a lot of magical moments. The whole North pole feels very warm and magical too. Thats what I love about it.
I never knew about the elves just hanging out throughout the world!! I definitely think they were eyeing him out for the job. Maybe they set old Santa up! 😱
I love that you guys are tackling this franchise. I’ve always loved the first one but it definitely gets a heck of a lot weirder from there.
Jingle all the way with Arnold Schwarzenegger would be the best caravan of garbage episode ever
I loved this movie as a child. But now this video is my favourite thing that's come from this film. Please do all three.
"This was presumably about his time in jail for cocaine trafficking" As a matter of fact, I have read the book and yes, indeed it is (along with the rest of his life up to that point -- it's basically an anecdotal biography).
So I'm just MINDING MY OWN BUSINESS, watching a UA-cam video about The Santa Clause of all things, and out of NOWHERE at 3:01 I see my favorite anime of all time pop up on screen with Lelouch wearing a Santa hat.
Thank you Ben or whoever did that. It made my whole week.
If l remember correctly in the 2nd movie we learn santa can't stay santa without getting married. So that means the santa that died in the beginning of this movies was married. So what happened to Mrs Claus? Did the elves hate her too?
Either that or he was only into his first few years, it took Scott 9 years to finally start going through the desantafication process
I love the Legal Eagle references everytime Mason is explaining the law.😄
There's a scene in the novelisation, accompanied by a still from the movie so it was presumably filmed but cut - Scott sees a gallery of photos of past Santas and asks why there were so many. Bernard admits most Santas don't last long as it's so hazardous, in fact many/most Santas don't survive their first year. Charlie tells him that if that's the case, he doesn't want his Dad to do it. This then leads into the scene with the new safety features. So basically the elves aren't sad about the last Santa because they barely knew him and are used to new Santas showing up each year.
This makes sense with the line in the second movie about how much happier kids are since Scott became Santa and why the elves have forgotten about "The Mrs Clause" - no Santa for the last century or so has lasted more than a couple of years so it's never really come up before!
That should have been left in, would’ve helped stop a lot of disturbing implications
@@mrcritical6751 I agree, it solves a lot of alleged plot-holes people keep bringing up! I can only assume it was considered too dark.
@@adamgreenwood9785 at least The Santa Clauses Disney+ series seems to be finally answering the questions we’ve all been having. It is disturbing to think though that almost every Santa before Scott died in their first year
This is a holiday classic. I love this movie. I watch this, Jingle all the way, and Home Alone every Christmas.
"The Tick Loves Santa" features swarms of Santas.
I’m convinced that The Santa Clause is the Hollywood adaptation of Pierce Anthony’s Incarnation of Immortality - On a Pale Horse.
“You can’t start a Disney movie with you murdering Santa Claus” says the company who made Bambi…
That was a different time.
The Gus Johnson reference at 14:10 is much appreciated
Re-watching this has become a Christmas tradition
1:00 I used to think this theme was dumb, but now I’m this guy and I work so much. 😞
Did anyone notice that they discussed everything surrounding this movie, and almost never talked about the plot or what they liked about it?
Bruh.
They spent more time trying to understand how this universe works then talking about the movie...... and I loved every second of it!
After that Denny’s story I fully respect James business decisions
I saw those two Hack Frauds and I CLAAAPPED!
"Instead they're spending their money on booze." Cut to Mike and Jay
I don't think anyone has ever put this much thought into "The Santa Clause", not even the writers or director. Good on ya boys!
That Denny's was in Ontario Canada Ben should recognize if he's from Ontario that there's a beer store sign in the back, which is only in Ontario, of the establishing shot for Denny's
I think he's from BC but I dont know why I think that
Also, you're right, it's in Scarborough!
globalfilmlocations.net/2017/11/25/the-santa-clause-1994-film-locations/
Good spotting that
Of course, if he's from Ontario, he must know every Denny's there! I'll bet he knows my cousin Craig, too.
@@viddork I didnt mean he knows all the dennys just the fact that it's in Ontario lol
@@alphabettical1 cool you found out which one it was :)
I put this video on thinking "Yeah sure why not" and I'm delighted that it's just been James ranting about the existential horror of The Santa Clause for over ten minutes. Brilliant.
Nah, Denny’s was accurately depicted. Every American city and town has excellent diners you should visit, instead. It would be like going to Italy and visiting Olive Garden.
“There’s an odd morph in the mirror” made me laugh really hard
Funny that you called him Jerry Claus when the actor who played the first Santa in the Disney plus series was jerry from parks and rec
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The reason that the Elves don't care is because the Santa spirit (Klaus) takes over the host and the host becomes Santa which is the reason the Elves don't care because it's still their master's mind, body, and soul.
Damn! Deep!
I cried laughing at that Denny's story.
As someone who also ate at Denny's in America - I agree, do not eat there!
I'm not the biggest fan of denny's but it's not as if there is only 1 in America. Some locations are better than others,which I'm sure is the case wherever you live
*just wanted to drop a quick line to say: the visual references (Legal Eagle, Synecdoche New York, &c.) are things of true beauty.
props to Editor Ben.
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You won’t be surprised to know Tim Allen himself (off of this) wants to address these plot holes specifically - especially when the Elves hated old Santa.
So... did that new Disney+ series get made because of this episode? I might respect it a little more if that's true. I still probably won't watch it, but I like that idea.
@@ASpooneyBard thing is the questions they bring up in this video are all questions people have been asking for decades about this universe. Honestly it’s good of Tim Allen to return to the franchise and endure the makeup process again, gotta commend him for that
Can every Caravan of Garbage from now on feature Mr Sunday and Mason trying and failing to keep the video child friendly? It was another layer of humour I didn't know I needed in these videos.
The best part about Santa, is how he doesn't give gifts to poor kids.
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With the third movie in mind. I always thought that the original Santa that Tim Allen replaced went back to the time he became Santa and lived out his life peacefully with his family.
It honestly feels like Ben was let off a leash for this one because the editing was just out of control.
Ben is the heart of the channel and James and Maso are the healthy strong lungs
15:12 introducing Santa Clause: Into the Santa-Verse
Its great that Ben gets so much credit for his work on this channel. I don't hear about the editor on any other UA-cam show I watch.
The animation of James walking away from Denny’s and Vegas kills me every time 😆 great job Ben
I think the elves are just immortal beings who've seen plenty of Santas come and go so they just don't get upset when one dies.
Maybe there is a "Santa Clause" on the star wars universe,
That would explain why after Kylo Ren died, Rey just took the skywalker family name
Now she'll grow a mullet and start wearing all black.
My Denny's story was that this older dude was serving us. By the time he served our last dish, we saw his thumb and it was dead (the entire top half of the last digit).
Then we saw an imprint on our friends pancake. We all let out a collective sigh as we began to eat our breakfast
This is like one of the least toxic channels on UA-cam.
U can kind of tell cuz of how little dislikes u have u literally got twelve and almost 3 thousand likes atm and that’s the biggest difference ratio I’ve ever seen.
It’s crazy how u say your opinions and don’t offend.
2:38 I’ve thought about this for so long you have no clue, it’s what I think about on a silent night
I really like the santa clause and think it's a bit underrated.
It's a sweet movie.
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Yes it is. It's very nostalgic to me as well.
You don't know what underrated means...
@@chand911
Yes I do.
I never noticed the elves in the classroom or watching him from the street at the beginning before. You just blew my mind. I gotta look for that next time I see the movie on tv.
"My name is Judge" a magazine told me that
that's a deep cut there mate
After its amount of use this year, I appreciate the start of this video having a tax time joke. Very festive.
Wait, wouldn’t the plural of “Caravan of Garbage” be “Caravans of Garbage,” rather than “Caravan of Garbages”? 🤔
Depends, do you have multiple caravans of garbage or do you have a single caravan with multiple garbages in it?
@@spacemanstanly Multiple “garbages”? Lol. No, but I suppose the argument could be made that the formal title is “Caravan of Garbage,” so to pluralize, you’d make the whole thing multiple.
But I still think “Caravans of Garbage” sounds better. Like “attorneys general.” 😂
@@expensivesuit7286 yeah, garbage is not a count noun so you don't use a plural...actually i agree with your whole summation but i have to ask do you really prefer 'Attorneys general' or was that a joke? Coz that sounds possessive to me 🤔
@@GGMCUKAGAIN I definitely approve “attorneys general,” because it’s correct. Like “sisters-in-law” (not “sister-in-laws”). I would never joke about such things. :)
EDIT: I’ve just learned, after checking my grammar guides, that in the UK, “attorney-generals” is preferred. But “attorneys general” is correct in the US.
@MrSundayMovies I’m convinced people watched this video before writing the new “The Santa Clauses” series on Disney+ bc they address all of the things mentioned her and attempt to explain the lore.
The movie itself isn’t garbage(except the third one) but Tim Allen is.
Excited for next week... for some reason as a kid we had The Santa Clause 2 and ONLY The Santa Clause 2 on DVD. I didn't even realise there was a first one for the longest time. But I do remember loving the second one a lot!