So I get asked ‘why do you pick locks the wrong way up’ quite a bit. Well aside from there being no ‘right way up’ for most locks (yes, including Euro cylinders!), I thought I would SPP and rake this lock both ways for your entertainment 😃👍🔐
I thought that spool driver pins makes lock almost imposible to rake open. This lock consist three spool driver pins, but opened pretty fast with rake attack. So, now i realized something new about spools. Thanks for sharing this.
Spot on Ash! It doesn't matter. Personally, I pick 'em upside down, right side up, and in both directions just because you never know what the orientation will be and what direction is necessary to unlock them until you encounter them.
Thanks for this video. I needed to unlock a euro lock that was fitted to a patio door between the conservatory and kitchen on a cottage we bought 4 years ago and didn’t a key to. Well, it was my first go on any type of lock but I managed to open it pretty swiftly using a rake identical to the one you used. I have now installed a new lock which came with 3 keys. Sadly, I’ll have to return the pick set to my sister in law who was bought it as a challenge at Xmas.
It's locksport, it really doesn't matter what way you pick it, likewise on euros I don't even think it matters whether you tension using a tool or just the cam
I got one of these locks after "mastering" the transparent locks from my starter set. The first 4 ou 5 picks were a breeze but now I can't pick it open, EVER! Very rarely I will get a slight movement (a false set, I believe) but then nothing further. I don't think it is damaged as the key still opens it with no problems at all. I don't know what changed in my (lack of) technique but this one became imposible to me.
I tend to switch both ways when picking euros. Maybe it's just me but sometimes a lock picks easier one way as opposed to the other. Question: Do you think that those 6 pin S&L would make good challenge locks? Actually for me the first thing I would look for in a euro is the anti snap feature. Either as sacrificial or the hardened steel around the screw hole. I would think the majority of time a thief would try and snap the lock rather than pick it. (I liked the content about "Out in the cold", Heee Heeee)
I'm fairly new to locksport and have learnt a lot from yourself and other UA-camrs. I quite enjoy hand filing keys for locks I pick that didn't have keys with them. I have dismantling and pinning kits but I'd really like to get my hands on a quality front loader, any recommendations?
Hi - What Decoder Tool would you need for this lock? Do you know? Another Q' would be - What is the key type of this particular lock, to look for the right decoder.? Thanks
I always (try) to pick locks in the orientation you would find them in the "real world". Not that I would ever pick a lock in the wild, I think that it makes the picking more "real world". As you say though "to each their own". Nice job on the picking and gutting... Stay well
I tend to find it slightly easier with pins up, n I prob use more curved picks with pins down. Fun both ways tho (that sounded wrong😂). Another great video tho, lovin it😁
I'm quite pleasantly surprised it actually had security pins in it. I recently bought a S&L 'safe' to play with and the over-ride keyed lock was laughably insecure. The goso wafer jiggler opens it in seconds. Also, the electronic code reset button is accessable through whichever mounting hole isn't being used. That was disappointing, as the electronics are protected seperate from the keypad, and the keyed-lock can be disabled easily. If it just had a power backup socket accessable from the front, it would have been ok, since the reset switch can be unplugged to block that vulnerability :). It's so annoying when they almost get things right.
I've been using S&L 40 mm aluminium padlocks for beginners practice - they're actually a little more difficult than the equivalent Master Lock (140EUR) since they've got a bit more warding and they're 5 pins. Decent beginner practice locks for the price, though...
@@chemistrykrang8065 Haha, when i wrote that i almost put a (Oooer!).next to it! 🤣 Seriously thoufh, if your UK based visit that well known hardware shop and you'll pickup a few lgood practice locks mate 👍
@Lock Noob - another very good video. Thank you. And a very important point - if you're picking locks for pleasure, then pick 'em which ever way up gives you that pleasure. Or even sideways..! One question - where did you get the spiral plug follower - looks 3D printed, but 3D Locksports don't have anything like that yet. Did you print it yourself, and do you have a range of sizes? Keep the good stuff coming - much appreciated :)
@@LockNoob You have the right friends...! ;) I think Peterson does something similar, and they call it a top loader. I might chase up one of those. Here we go - found it: www.thinkpeterson.com/universal-top-loader-in-a-tube/
Yeah, you should fit a lock in the bottom of a drawer, keyway facing the floor, just so you can practice picking it whilst lying on your back looking up, just to cover all eventualities!
@@LockNoob because I’m a lock picker like you know. I’ll tell you a hard lock to pick or what I have been having trouble with is the E*S MP10 or the new CES Dimple lock or pin tumblers have a go on them
So I get asked ‘why do you pick locks the wrong way up’ quite a bit. Well aside from there being no ‘right way up’ for most locks (yes, including Euro cylinders!), I thought I would SPP and rake this lock both ways for your entertainment 😃👍🔐
I thought that spool driver pins makes lock almost imposible to rake open. This lock consist three spool driver pins, but opened pretty fast with rake attack. So, now i realized something new about spools. Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks!
Spot on Ash! It doesn't matter. Personally, I pick 'em upside down, right side up, and in both directions just because you never know what the orientation will be and what direction is necessary to unlock them until you encounter them.
Thanks!
So glad you did this video. I knew it could be picked. Couldn't believe that it actually says unpickable lol
Your wish is my command 😉
@@LockNoob haha🤣🤣 Thanks Ash, well chuffed. Saved me from posting it to you lol
Thanks for this video.
I needed to unlock a euro lock that was fitted to a patio door between the conservatory and kitchen on a cottage we bought 4 years ago and didn’t a key to.
Well, it was my first go on any type of lock but I managed to open it pretty swiftly using a rake identical to the one you used.
I have now installed a new lock which came with 3 keys.
Sadly, I’ll have to return the pick set to my sister in law who was bought it as a challenge at Xmas.
It's locksport, it really doesn't matter what way you pick it, likewise on euros I don't even think it matters whether you tension using a tool or just the cam
Except for some thumbturn locks will open by just tensioning the cam on its own, which is pretty bad really (surprised me, as it was a midrange Yale)
I agree
Excellent demonstration sir! An open is an open, no matter what direction the lock is situated, thank you for the video sir 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks 👍
I got one of these locks after "mastering" the transparent locks from my starter set. The first 4 ou 5 picks were a breeze but now I can't pick it open, EVER!
Very rarely I will get a slight movement (a false set, I believe) but then nothing further.
I don't think it is damaged as the key still opens it with no problems at all. I don't know what changed in my (lack of) technique but this one became imposible to me.
I tend to switch both ways when picking euros. Maybe it's just me but sometimes a lock picks easier one way as opposed to the other.
Question: Do you think that those 6 pin S&L would make good challenge locks?
Actually for me the first thing I would look for in a euro is the anti snap feature. Either as sacrificial or the hardened steel around the screw hole. I would think the majority of time a thief would try and snap the lock rather than pick it.
(I liked the content about "Out in the cold", Heee Heeee)
I think it would make a good enough challenge lock with the right pins!
I agree I pick down but I have picked upwards when called upon when my friends lock them self out there house.
I'm fairly new to locksport and have learnt a lot from yourself and other UA-camrs. I quite enjoy hand filing keys for locks I pick that didn't have keys with them. I have dismantling and pinning kits but I'd really like to get my hands on a quality front loader, any recommendations?
Hi - What Decoder Tool would you need for this lock? Do you know?
Another Q' would be - What is the key type of this particular lock, to look for the right decoder.?
Thanks
Pick it sideways. Then they can argue left or right instead of up or down. I always enjoy your videos, nice work.
I always (try) to pick locks in the orientation you would find them in the "real world". Not that I would ever pick a lock in the wild, I think that it makes the picking more "real world". As you say though "to each their own". Nice job on the picking and gutting... Stay well
Thanks, Gantry, you too friend!
You can tell that it makes a difference, mainly it will ultimately be down to the exercise ...
Yes, it's all practice and preference
Picking one of these up from Screwfix dreckly, advertised as anti-drill and anti-pick lol. Should be fun. Not bad for £8.99 I guess...
I tend to find it slightly easier with pins up, n I prob use more curved picks with pins down. Fun both ways tho (that sounded wrong😂). Another great video tho, lovin it😁
Thanks!
Another fantastic video ash my friend well done well explained👊😎🇬🇧🤟👍😊
Thanks Leon!! 👍
I tell you what Lock_Noob, I've seen lots of lock picking videos, and this is certainly one of them.
xxxxx
lol
Still on my 6 pin with false sets, will persevere.
C'est quel ébauche pour ce ce cylindre ? On peut crée un pass avec un clé brut ?
Don't understand why people hit thumbs down and not give feedback as to why they don't like the video.
I'm quite pleasantly surprised it actually had security pins in it. I recently bought a S&L 'safe' to play with and the over-ride keyed lock was laughably insecure. The goso wafer jiggler opens it in seconds. Also, the electronic code reset button is accessable through whichever mounting hole isn't being used. That was disappointing, as the electronics are protected seperate from the keypad, and the keyed-lock can be disabled easily. If it just had a power backup socket accessable from the front, it would have been ok, since the reset switch can be unplugged to block that vulnerability :). It's so annoying when they almost get things right.
Yeah, it's a bout average for a lock like this - not bad orgood and better than expected
I've been using S&L 40 mm aluminium padlocks for beginners practice - they're actually a little more difficult than the equivalent Master Lock (140EUR) since they've got a bit more warding and they're 5 pins. Decent beginner practice locks for the price, though...
Yes, good practice!
Theres actually a silver steel S&L padlock with 6 pins now for a fair price that makes a really good practice lock 👍
@@Ian-jp6xl not sure I want "S&M padlock" in my Google search history... 🤣
@@chemistrykrang8065 Haha, when i wrote that i almost put a (Oooer!).next to it! 🤣
Seriously thoufh, if your UK based visit that well known hardware shop and you'll pickup a few lgood practice locks mate 👍
@Lock Noob - another very good video. Thank you. And a very important point - if you're picking locks for pleasure, then pick 'em which ever way up gives you that pleasure. Or even sideways..!
One question - where did you get the spiral plug follower - looks 3D printed, but 3D Locksports don't have anything like that yet. Did you print it yourself, and do you have a range of sizes? Keep the good stuff coming - much appreciated :)
A friend sent me it :-)
@@LockNoob You have the right friends...! ;) I think Peterson does something similar, and they call it a top loader. I might chase up one of those. Here we go - found it: www.thinkpeterson.com/universal-top-loader-in-a-tube/
Well done.
thanks!
Yeah, you should fit a lock in the bottom of a drawer, keyway facing the floor, just so you can practice picking it whilst lying on your back looking up, just to cover all eventualities!
lol
I do it the same way. Especially in schools the lock is turned the wrong way
or the right way lol
@@LockNoob because I’m a lock picker like you know. I’ll tell you a hard lock to pick or what I have been having trouble with is the E*S MP10 or the new CES Dimple lock or pin tumblers have a go on them
Not managed to rake one of the s&l locks i have----- not all of them are that easy----- or iam just not any good (probably more likely)
They can be a mixed bag, some easier than others
In the US I've gotten use to pins up
for sure! i prefer that way too
legendddd
Thanks!
It looked like more time was spent removing the clip than actually picking the lock ;)
They were such a pain! They needed rotating so I could push them off but the cam has a small lip on it which occluded the tool
*pushes glasses up*
It's not real picking unless it's installed in a door, and the padlocks are on a shed.
/s
and it has to be dark. and raining. and youhave to have a stressed family watching. and the neighbors and a dog!
Get my email I take it? Unpickable it says...
Well, it’s OK but far from unpickable, lol
@@LockNoob it's my goal to have this picked by the end of the week.
Profile cylinders are the worst
Smith & Locke sounds like a generic store brand.
It is, kind of. But in all fairness, they do seem to be better made than masterlocks from the same store (b&q in the UK)
They are - very average too