Die Griffe und die Chargirung mit Zündnadelgewehr/Cviky a nabíjení s jehlovkou
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Zfilmování doplňující brožury k pruským cvikům a nabíjení s puškou jehlovkou, která byla sepsána roku 1867 poručíkem Huhnem 4. východopruského zeměbraneckého pluku č.5. vycházející z pruského povelového předpisu 1847.
A very informative and enjoyable video, well done. I'm fascinated by the arms and uniforms of the era, the uniforms are styling! Who cares about blending into the enverment with camouflaged batlles dress, when you can rock in an awesome spike helment and a GQ rated uniform!
That’s what women really want, pickelhaube, Prussian glory and +150 discipline.
Auf jedenfall niemanden der mit Stahlhelm und Sturmhaube, mastubierend vorm PC sitzt.
*yorkscher marsch
hmmm...........I skipped pickelhaube, prussian glory and +150 discipline and bought me a zuendnadel instead
@@hansmeyer7225 *sigh* *unzips*
It is interesting to think that a whole committee of officers spent months and years painstakingly researching and composing this ridiculously complex ritual.
It isnt ridiculous. Each movement allows the unit to work as one and makes it a more effective force.
It is going a bit far, but the whole point was to standardise everything and allow soldiers to be trained to the point where they acted like robots.
That's still the case today. I can load, unload, secure and disassemble the rifle I used in the military literally blindfolded. I'd wish I could say I could clean and reassemble it blindfolded too, but, I can't. ^_^
And back then, massed volleys were the key to victory. For that you needed soldiers who acted in unison, like robots, even if people were dying and being horribly injured around them.
Training helps. When I was attacked there was panic among everyone. I regained myself because of training and set up the normal angle-defense I'd been taught. Only after that secured the situation for the moment and we were in a sustained contact, did thinking come back fully.
And if that happens to a poorly trained support specialist like me, dedicated frontliners will rely on it even more.
I find it interesting. It is like a more complex version of Hardee's light infantry movements. When slowed down it seems complex and redundant but when in the field the process is much faster.
I don't find this more complex.
It got most of the same movements. And there are some you don't find here. Like fix and unfix bayonets.
And from a teaching point of view this is a lot better since it got illustrations of all the movements. (unlike the american books)
The biggest issue that make this look more complex is the fact that it is done by the numbers.
And that most reenactores who do civil war reenactment never actually learn their drill to any great detail.
Like knowing and learned the 3 main manuals of arms.
Musket (used by both sides) Rifle (used by both sides)
and Hardee's revised (used by CSA units later in the war)
And yes, when people do this in the field it is effective and it works...
not as complex as first seen, in a week can master it, and doing this for months
constantly allows your body to immediately do this things in battle despite utter fear, by the time of 1871 formation fighting was obsolete but in the days of the smoothbore musket (and before then the pike) this sort of thing absolutely necessary to win battles - this is why the americans lost the first couple years of the revolutionary war and why their militia was terrible - lack of this training
Cool video! Now go measure the time it took to charge the Dreyse and fire the thing, measure the time and compare that to length of the ridiculous number of steps they had to go through to load and fire a muzzle loader and you begin to understand why the Prussians shot the Danes and Austrians to pieces in 1864 and 1866. It's kind of amazing to think that countries evaluated the Dreyse and decided to go with muzzle loaders that were accurate out to 800 meters when most engagements took place at less than 300. Then they gave their soldiers with those amazingly accurate long range muzzle loaders 20 round a year to practice with thus assuring those 800 meter muzzle loaders were pretty useless at anything more than 150 meters anyway because the soldiers using them had so little practice they could not shoot worth a damn due to lack of practice.
As you point out the Austrian tactics didn’t match their weapons. If they trained their forces to shoot they could have stayed outside the range of the Prussians needle guns and shot them to pieces. Instead they used bayonet charges against breech loaders because they were cheap and old school.
In 1850 the Brazilian Empire decided to hire German mercenaries to serve in the southern frontier, facing the dictator Rosas and his smaller ally, Oribe. The Germans would be known as Brummers and would be training in Prussian style with Dreyse rifles. The infantry contingent was the best trained (there were also pioneers and artillerymen) and it is interesting to imagine those men practicing those drills in the video.
Ah, Rosas. He had only 2 years left in power at that point.
Ein wundervolles Video ! Meine Hochachtung! Ich war im Juli in Königgrätz und fande das Museum sehr spannend.
Großartig. Thank you for uploading.
Very nice, thank you. I appreciate all time, effort and resources that went into making this drill video. I have an M62 and know how heavy it is. However, is it possible to a video where the drill is done smartly with speed and force? It looks amazing and the sound of the hand striking the stock adds cadence. Besten Dank!
how wonderful congratulations
Perfekt wirklich gute Leistung!
Gut einstudiert;)
Die Musik im Hintergrund ist hervorragend.
Glory To The Kingdom Of Prussia.
Sehr schöne uniformen !!
Great work guys, wonderful video! :)
More! More videos!
Slovo Chargirung neznamená nabíjení! Chápu, že to svádí k tomuto překladu, ale nabíjení bylo vždycky Ladung. Chargirung označuje střelbu či útok. Těm povelům pro nabíjení to předchází proto, že nabíjení bylo první krok k následné střelbě. To "Bataillon soll chargiren" je upozornění, že se bude střílet a po něm teprve následuje samotný povel pro nabíjení se slovem "geladen".
Wundervoll, sehr gut gemacht.
nobody dislike the perfect like ratio or i will personally lead a war to unify germany under prussian rule
n0rmal-iwnl- I will join you.
Sauber!
Where can I acquire such a stunning uniform for my own reenactment?
Be choosing the organes you want to sell in order to buy it hahaha
👏👏👏
❤
very well done
Mohl byste mi prosím říct, kde jste si koupili náboj? Chtěl bych si jednu vyrobit pro sebe. Bylo by příliš obtížné požádat o rozměry? Děkuji
WOW..... AWESOME!!! :-)
4:30 those laser rifles sure look like old 1847 rifles...
Sorry for the dumb question, but; the language spoken at the video and in the images is not at all modern German, right?
From what I can gather the discription is in a south-slavic language , while the illustrations and orders are in german
The german spoken here is modern german, it might sound different because they are orders: Take aim! etc.
Ah thanks. I always mistake slavic languages which do not use cyrillic
Awesome. Danke, Soldat.
The language spoken is modern German (specifically a dialect called "Hochdeutsch" wich is the most common dialect in Germany). It is very good and clearly spoken German for non-native speakers too (I assume the OP is a non native German-speaker, if not I appologise). The discriptions are in 2 languages German and Czech? (not sure for the 2nd one) and the German part is written in modern German (just in a commanding way/ it is what has to be said).
The written language is Czech. The Spoken language is normal German, with the usual French words thrown in, as many military words were French at that time. You'd say "chargieren" (French for "charge") instead of "laden" ("load" or "charge").
3:55 when he actually fire a gun
Thanks, me later
What if you reload it much faster.
Were do I find a gun like this?
egun.de, though you can expect prices ranging from 1.500€ to 2.500€, sometimes even higher (the highest I saw was around 5.000€), depending on how good the wear on the zündnadelgewehr is and how many people are currently hunting for it :-)
First bolt action rifle
Does anyone know where I can get a PDF of the manual they are using?
Well, I guess I read it wrong. I thought it said somebody died after being charged by a Zundnadelgewehr.
Now that they are trained they are looking at you Napoleon III.
Wo zu sind diese Griffe gut? 😕
2:57 He forgot to push the bolt :\
That's another step.
Were these rifle movements the same by 1914?
no, the main company was replaced by the late 1800s, all of the main Prussian victories of the era was with the Dresden rifles but they were all one-shot bolties, seeing the other nations creating more advanced rifle, the German government replaced their arms with Mauser rifles instead, but by movements you mean the firing doctrine right well also no, by 1914 the only people still trying to volley fire are the french and probably the Russians, everyone else especially the British and Germans are using precision fire at will tactics instead, but still highly concentrated.
Pretty much. The Drill manual is unchanged since 1906, so in WW1 the drill of 1906 was still the formal one in use which in its core is identical to this one. Put just search for Exerzierreglement der Infanterie 1906
@@Marco-bf4uu Those are drills for the Dreyse Needle, stopped being used in 1871 for the Gewehr 1871, so no, they were not the exact same.
@@arturoroldan4839 Do you anglotards know that word called tradition? These steps only changed slightly, where to hold etc. I tried this with my Karabiner and everything is identical except the firing drill cause we simply don't learn it in the Wachbataillon. Like I said read the drill manual, we studied it. The formal grips are all at the beginning.
byl jsem překvapen že tohle je české video
What is the march which is playing? Can somebody to prompt name of this to me?
Yorkscher marsch
What music
Yorkscher Marsch by Ludwig von Beethoven.
Why do they have beards? I also remember the post 1806 reforms made sappers to shave their beards.
Alguien, por favor, que traduzca las voces de mando al castellano.
Adame dobré, ale jsou tam drobné chyby.
jsou tam všeho všudy dvě, kterých si jsem vědom, z nichž ta druhá je cílená. První chyba je při povelu Fertig z postavení Über-kdy voják má chytit pušku pravou rukou za krk pažby-nikoli za pouzdro závěru a druhá je ta, že po Gewehr in-Ruh a následném Fällt das Gewehr se zámeček nezasouvá do komory (nechci totiž lidem ukazovat návod, jak nechtěně vystřelit při bodákovém útoku avšak věřím, že to tehdá bylo žádnoucí mít nataženou pušku s bodákem při útoku...). Pokud se jedná o sklony pušek, vyjde to vždy trochu jinak což je zřejmé při větším počtu lidí.
Z Überu na Fertig! to Michal chytá dobře za krk, ale 1. Bataillon soll chargiren - nach Zählen geladen! se puška chytá za krk pažby. 2. Nach Zählen: das Gevehr über! se naopak drží za pouzdro závěru. 3. Při povelu Fertig! pravá noha neukračuje jen do boku, ale i jednu stopu dozadu, tedy zešikma vzad. Při pohledu zboku každý zakračuje jinak. 4. Při střelbě ve dvou řadách neustupuje zadní řada vlevo, protože je tam již od nabíjení. Nabíjet za sebou vojáci nemohou. To připadá v úvahu jen tehdy, přišli-li na místo s nabitými zbraněmi. 5. Gewhr - in Ruh! po stažení zámku zpět uchopí voják pravou rukou palcem a ukazovákem kouli kliky závěru. Je třeba také číst text u obrázků. Pokud jde o ten zámeček, důležitá je pro nás samozřejmě bezpečnost, zasunoval se zejména proto, aby se při manipulaci s puškou při bodákovém útoku neotvíral závěr. Vše toto v příručce platí zejména pro výcvik, v boji se některé věci nedělají, nepočítá se a po střelbě automaticky dává voják pušku do nabíjecí polohy.
ajo-oboje už vidím. Text jsem samozřejmě četl několikrát avšak mne asi zmátly ty kresby. Nicméně co se týče rozkročených noh-je to dle popisu a obrázků v pořádku-noha má jít jednu stopu vpravo a poněkud vzad což v korespondenci s ilustrací dle mého názoru vychází. Co se týče nabíjení a střelby ve dvojřadu, vojáci rozkračují nohy až při Fertig-čili nabijí ve dvojřadu za sebou. První řada dělá to co je napsáno zde-stopu vpravo a poněkud vzad, kdežto zadní řada dělá půlkrok vlevo a vpřed aby mohla střílet ve vzniklé mezeře. Při přebíjení na místě zůstává až do jiného povelu s puškou. Tohle jsme konzultovali i s Jiřím a tvrdil, že by to tak mělo být.
What's the name of the audio track?
Edit: nvm I got it
what track is that???
Archmage gold It's a fife and drum version of the Yorckscher Marsch, I can't find this specific recording though
Thank you
@@archmagegold4509
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