I haven’t listened to this episode yet but I can’t stop fucking laughing at the fact that Helen just casually turns the entire dimension around every time Jon tries to smite her- it’s like going on a carnival ride
“ *CEASELESS WATCH* -aAaaHhHhh” “ *CEASEL* -“ “ *CEASELESS W* -aowgghh” jonny’s voice acting never ceases (punny haha) to make me giggle LMAO. your depiction of this scene is GORGEOUS. it’s so incredibly magnus archives idk how to explain it. just makes sense. dream logic ig
My theory - When Jon said "Hellen, was that a lie?" he was in fact bluffing. But it was enough to make Helen scared, when he talks about this strand, this thread, this genuine untruth, he is just embellishing it to sell her on it. Once she feels fear, that's it, the eye can feel that fear and lock itself on. Likewise, when Gertrude gave Michael the "impossible map" to lead to the center of the spiral...she too was lying. She couldn't map the place from never having been inside, but Michael trusted her SO much, that when she lied and said she had a map, he believed it. After all, what's the spiral to do in response to a lie? Tell the truth? that's against its nature. If he thinks the map works, to prove it wrong would be to reveal to it truth....both Gertrude and Jon trap the spiral into a position where it can either lie and destroy itself, or be honest and live.
Really good thinking! I also think that in the Distortion's case, the lie being its undoing is because it CAN'T tell genuine lies, only tell half-truths and omit certain details. The Distortion is all about gaslighting, making you constantly second guess them and wonder if their friendship is real or not. It thrives on that ambiguity. To tell a genuine untruth is to break that illusion and give the Eye something solid and objective to lock onto. Helen can't shift into something new because now the Eye can focus on the factual knowledge that she told an abject lie.
This and the dream logic of tma. As long as they are convinced it could happen, it might have to be both, it might be sufficient if only hellen or jon belive in it, it can happen
Ooo, the background as Helen's hallways starting disappearing was so gorgeous. And the imagery of the lie as the thread was so pretty!! Lovely animatic this was so cool :D
This is my favourite part of the Magnus Archives. The way how we’ve known the character of distortion Helen, and how from one simple lie, Jon unravels its very being.
Some of these expressions are absolutely gorgeous- what??? Your animatics never fail to disappoint :-3 On another note “Helen fucking dies” killed me hddjgdjdgdhdgdh
what the FUCK this is so good !!! Kind of random but i really like how you portrayed Helen's domain shifting and how the Archivist falls through the confusing space. You really nailed the vibes and architecture (or lack thereof) of Helen's corridors. I also love the expressions you gave the characters, they are very well done
Wow, this is… _wow._ The characters’ designs are pretty much exactly how I imagine them; the attention to detail was astounding; the expressions were fluid and on point. Wow.
I love your designs of Jon and Helen, they are so good!! And all the movements are amazing, I always had trouble imagining the twisting corridors, but Jon falling through the door and Helen shifting the hallways around looked so great
MY FAVORITE EPISODE THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS!!!! this was so lovely everything is so well made!!! love when helen is shifting the hallways i think you captured it perfectly AND THE LIE WAS AN ACTUAL GOLDEN STRAND!! everything is so good thank you have a nice day
ive only been following you for a couple months, but i cannot say how excited i got over seeing the notification for this. The style, the atmosphere, and the detail of the scenes??? they're absolutely breathtaking, i could die
Maybe my favorite moment in the whole podcast, and it's the first TMA animatic I've ever seen! BRAVO! It was AMAZING! I had imagined those shuffling noises as the room shaking/flickering and it suddenly being someplace new, but turning hallways make so much more visual-sense! I especially loved your depiction of Helen. Her design perfectly aligned with her demeanor, and you perfectly captured her character in the expressions and body language. It felt like I was experiencing it for the first time... Recognizing her lie a MOMENT before Jon calls it out, and hoping that the mechanics of the world are abstract enough that THIS singular misstep will be enough of a focus to unravel her... and oh how bittersweet it is. Loved her and hated her; She was exactly... Herself.
THIS IS SOOO HECKING WELL MADE!! TMA has been on my mind 24/7 the last couple of days because of the final episode anniversary, and it's bittersweet because I miss these hcharacters and stories so much, but seeing this made me SO VERY HAPPY THANK YOU!!! 💚
I know I'm late but... This is SO GOOD!!! i love how you draw Jon and Helen. This was also such an amazing show of power by Jon. You did it such justice!
oh my gosh i love how you animated the halls shifting and jon, he's so sassy here and i adore it lfks and your helen is so good as well !!!! such a good animatic
this is fantastically made. the angles and the desgins. outside of that I just realized there could be an alternate universe where all that's left is Jon and Helen and I find that very funny for some reason.
OH hey you did another TMA animatic! Great job. I have aphantasia and so hadn't really thought about what exactly Helen was doing to interrupt Jon in the beginning there. Thanks for showing me!
To be honest, I kind of feel bad for Helen. All it did was help him, like give him doors, occasionally advice, was nice in general, and was probably one of the very few monsters who wanted to kill Jon. And he still just wouldn't trust it and because of him, their possible friendship ended up falling apart faster than an IKEA sofa. (Jsyk I haven't watched past Watcher's Crown ritual bit yet so idk if anything's changed. idk, I'll probably be back 🤪)
Thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is one of my absolute favorite parts of the entire show, and fuck, you captured it PERFECTLY. I may need to stalk you down and marry you, just for this. I am very easy to please at least :P I look forward to seeing what else you've made! :D
i always thought that killing helen was a bit of a rude thing for jon to do i mean, YOU told helen she wasn't helen, YOU told her she was a monster, YOU got mad at her for it, and then YOU kill her? the fuck, man?
I haven’t listened to this episode yet but I can’t stop fucking laughing at the fact that Helen just casually turns the entire dimension around every time Jon tries to smite her- it’s like going on a carnival ride
haha far too “thrilling” for his liking
"-surprisingly thrilling"
It does give my heart a little pang that the last thing she says is Jon...
"I have never told you a lie, Archivist. I wouldn't dare."
“ *CEASELESS WATCH* -aAaaHhHhh”
“ *CEASEL* -“
“ *CEASELESS W* -aowgghh”
jonny’s voice acting never ceases (punny haha) to make me giggle LMAO. your depiction of this scene is GORGEOUS. it’s so incredibly magnus archives idk how to explain it. just makes sense. dream logic ig
When you’re an all-powerful demigod but the local geometry hates you.
My theory - When Jon said "Hellen, was that a lie?" he was in fact bluffing. But it was enough to make Helen scared, when he talks about this strand, this thread, this genuine untruth, he is just embellishing it to sell her on it. Once she feels fear, that's it, the eye can feel that fear and lock itself on.
Likewise, when Gertrude gave Michael the "impossible map" to lead to the center of the spiral...she too was lying. She couldn't map the place from never having been inside, but Michael trusted her SO much, that when she lied and said she had a map, he believed it.
After all, what's the spiral to do in response to a lie? Tell the truth? that's against its nature. If he thinks the map works, to prove it wrong would be to reveal to it truth....both Gertrude and Jon trap the spiral into a position where it can either lie and destroy itself, or be honest and live.
brain size huge, responding because more people need to read this
Brain size HUGE
Really good thinking! I also think that in the Distortion's case, the lie being its undoing is because it CAN'T tell genuine lies, only tell half-truths and omit certain details. The Distortion is all about gaslighting, making you constantly second guess them and wonder if their friendship is real or not. It thrives on that ambiguity. To tell a genuine untruth is to break that illusion and give the Eye something solid and objective to lock onto. Helen can't shift into something new because now the Eye can focus on the factual knowledge that she told an abject lie.
idk man, the way she says "I'm not scared of you" is not very convincing, it's said softly and hesitantly like a lie
This and the dream logic of tma. As long as they are convinced it could happen, it might have to be both, it might be sufficient if only hellen or jon belive in it, it can happen
Ooo, the background as Helen's hallways starting disappearing was so gorgeous. And the imagery of the lie as the thread was so pretty!! Lovely animatic this was so cool :D
I LOVE ALL THOSE ANGLES!! Jons posture. Helens slowly disintegrating. Everything!!
“And now, the weather.”
YOOO
I swear the overlap of TMA fans and Nightvale fans is a circle (including me lol)
This is my favourite part of the Magnus Archives. The way how we’ve known the character of distortion Helen, and how from one simple lie, Jon unravels its very being.
This is so good. The weaving, the hallway twisting, Jons hair, the way it is staged and framed.
I think this is my favourite animatic of Helen's hallways omg. THE PERSPECTIVE SHIFTS i am so impressed
Some of these expressions are absolutely gorgeous- what??? Your animatics never fail to disappoint :-3
On another note “Helen fucking dies” killed me hddjgdjdgdhdgdh
killed her too
Oh my god... the shifts in perspectives where jon falls, the bit where he's pulling the thread, the expressions, its all genius. I love this so much
when the wallpaper of the hallways starts peeling away and you see the Eye in the background 😍
what the FUCK this is so good !!! Kind of random but i really like how you portrayed Helen's domain shifting and how the Archivist falls through the confusing space. You really nailed the vibes and architecture (or lack thereof) of Helen's corridors. I also love the expressions you gave the characters, they are very well done
FOUND U AGAINNNN >:DDD
Wow, this is… _wow._
The characters’ designs are pretty much exactly how I imagine them; the attention to detail was astounding; the expressions were fluid and on point.
Wow.
This is the coolest way I’ve ever seen the smiting illustrated
I LOVE THIS MOMENT SO MUCH AND YOU'VE SHOWN IT IN SUCH A FANTASTIC WAY.
I love my favourite half-liar.
Also ur character designs are fantastic
I love your designs of Jon and Helen, they are so good!! And all the movements are amazing, I always had trouble imagining the twisting corridors, but Jon falling through the door and Helen shifting the hallways around looked so great
THIS IS SO AMAZING!! The character designs, the angles, the little detail of Helen stepping back- incredible
MY FAVORITE EPISODE THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS!!!! this was so lovely everything is so well made!!! love when helen is shifting the hallways i think you captured it perfectly AND THE LIE WAS AN ACTUAL GOLDEN STRAND!! everything is so good thank you have a nice day
I am so deeply in love with this. This is a work of art. I cant even describe the feelings it evokes.
I was so sad when they died
I hope we see you animate the NotThem getting smote!
ive only been following you for a couple months, but i cannot say how excited i got over seeing the notification for this. The style, the atmosphere, and the detail of the scenes??? they're absolutely breathtaking, i could die
Maybe my favorite moment in the whole podcast, and it's the first TMA animatic I've ever seen!
BRAVO! It was AMAZING!
I had imagined those shuffling noises as the room shaking/flickering and it suddenly being someplace new, but turning hallways make so much more visual-sense!
I especially loved your depiction of Helen. Her design perfectly aligned with her demeanor, and you perfectly captured her character in the expressions and body language.
It felt like I was experiencing it for the first time...
Recognizing her lie a MOMENT before Jon calls it out, and hoping that the mechanics of the world are abstract enough that THIS singular misstep will be enough of a focus to unravel her... and oh how bittersweet it is. Loved her and hated her; She was exactly... Herself.
An incredible way of capturing such a iconic scene! Bravo
The twisting hallways were really impressive~!
Oh this is AWESOME
Your interpretation of the shifting hallways, the thread, the characters… Amazing stuff!!!
oh my god im so glad people actually animate scenes like this cause otherwise i don’t really know what the sounds mean lmao
THIS GAVE ME CHILLS. Also I ADORE the way you draw Jon.
THIS IS SOOO HECKING WELL MADE!! TMA has been on my mind 24/7 the last couple of days because of the final episode anniversary, and it's bittersweet because I miss these hcharacters and stories so much, but seeing this made me SO VERY HAPPY THANK YOU!!! 💚
HEYYYY HI HI HI THIS IS SO COOL IM IN LOVE WITH HOW YOUVE INTERPRETED IT... HELENS DESIGN?? MWAH! JON GOING EYE MODE?! oh my god
I know I'm late but...
This is SO GOOD!!! i love how you draw Jon and Helen. This was also such an amazing show of power by Jon. You did it such justice!
Literally the best tma animatic I’ve ever seen. Immediate sub.
This was by far my favorite version of john killing an avatar
I LOVE the way you drew this! And the christ John at the end killed me!😂
Genuinely my favourite bit of the fifth season. Maybe even the entire series.
The Distortion is one of my favorite characters, but I still cheered when she died :]
holy shitt this captures the scene so well
Wowwow wow!!!! Oh my god this is absolutely perfect! Shoutout to Jon's heeled boots they are so perfect!!!!!
oh my gosh i love how you animated the halls shifting and jon, he's so sassy here and i adore it lfks and your helen is so good as well !!!! such a good animatic
this is fantastically made. the angles and the desgins. outside of that I just realized there could be an alternate universe where all that's left is Jon and Helen and I find that very funny for some reason.
this is done so well !! and the way you've designed Helen is so wonderful , love her !!
OH hey you did another TMA animatic!
Great job. I have aphantasia and so hadn't really thought about what exactly Helen was doing to interrupt Jon in the beginning there. Thanks for showing me!
Ill always miss my beautiful awful wife, rip queen, you will be missed ♡
This is so cool, love the way he toys with and dances with the loose thread. A very nice touch!
oh DUDE That's some killer shot composition. And the way you showed the smiting was on point!
Jon used to be one of my favorite characters until this episode, killing the distortion is unforgivable
Yyyyyyyyyyyyyesss!! Incredible, stunning, wildly spectacular!! :D :D :D Oh, it's such a joy seeing you bring this show to life!
Watch me scream into the void how much I love this 🤩🤩🤩
IVE BEEN WANTING THIS MOMENT ANIMATED FOR SO SO LONG
OH THIS IS GORGEOUS
Woah this is incredible
God DAMN this is fantastic
Lovely! Just as I got to this episode too!
BBBBB THIS IS SSO GOOD!!! YES! THE ANIMATION IS GORGEOUS!
loved how you visualized this scene and your art style!
I absolutely love your interpretation of the actual moment of the Eye Seeing Helen ... so good!
this needs a million views its so good!!!!
I think yours may be my favorite Jon
Yes thank you I’ve been waiting for someone to animate this for so long!!!
Omg! This is awesome! You went all out with this scene! Awesome job!
amazing!!!!everything about this!!!!
I just finished ep 200 and came here to see the animations and just seeing "helen ***ing dies" on the screen genuinely made me laugh.
Incredible!! Once again, you’ve knocked this out of the park. Always love seeing new amazing TMA content :)
To be honest, I kind of feel bad for Helen. All it did was help him, like give him doors, occasionally advice, was nice in general, and was probably one of the very few monsters who wanted to kill Jon. And he still just wouldn't trust it and because of him, their possible friendship ended up falling apart faster than an IKEA sofa.
(Jsyk I haven't watched past Watcher's Crown ritual bit yet so idk if anything's changed. idk, I'll probably be back 🤪)
Aaaaah. This is dope as heck!
Poor Helen.
this is super well done!
holy shit… that was incredible
Oh my goooosh! More TMA! I love your animations so much!
And everyone in her domain died
SO WELL MADE!! Loved every bit of this!!
this is so good!!!
DAAAMN IT WAS AMAZING!!!
Thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is one of my absolute favorite parts of the entire show, and fuck, you captured it PERFECTLY. I may need to stalk you down and marry you, just for this. I am very easy to please at least :P
I look forward to seeing what else you've made! :D
I love Jon’s heals but how on earth did he walk through the apocalypse in those
Avatar powers
This is fucking awesome. Holy hell, thank you and congratulations
muy bueno la verdad
when you like something so much and go to give it a thumbs up only to see
You already did😂 double thumbs up 👍 I guess
Yoooooooooo!!! This is so good! Like sheesh!
pog
HOW HAS THIS NOT SHOWED UP IN MY RECOMMENDED UNTIL NOW IT FUCKING SLAPS
Great animation! I love this.
Dang, that is good
(this is p e a k by the way) but also do we know if the victims in an avatars domain actually do survive that avatar being sploded?
YEAAAH
dude, nice
whats that one family feud clip thats like "YEAASSS!!! *KILL!!!* "
Yes
Saddest character death
I'd say Tim's is the saddest. Or his brother's
good riddings long fingered, lie weaving, no face having, BIEEECH!!
👍
Kinda sad about her
i always thought that killing helen was a bit of a rude thing for jon to do
i mean, YOU told helen she wasn't helen, YOU told her she was a monster, YOU got mad at her for it, and then YOU kill her? the fuck, man?
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