Rosalina & Luma are so interesting. They have such amazing techs and they take a lot of skill to be good with, I love that. I'm thinking about doing my own Rosa montage on my channel soon as well.
Wow! Great vid. Totally gonna implement these techniques into my gameplay. Rip up air though. Can’t believe Luma didn’t kill villager at the height and percent. Oh well
Amazing as always, but you dropped a knowledge bomb at the end about luma’s detethered multiplier. Shocked me a little. Love your dedication, and glad to hear your problems are okay.
I don't really have a question, about rosa but I would like to say I really appreciate your channel and you have helped me a lot (also do you ever plan on doing games with subscribers?)
I'm glad you're putting out all this content along with dabuz I've been putting the work in for rosa and I'm using a smashbox... I would get some sick back n forth stuff but I didn't neccesarily understand the mechanics behind it so this is dope
Rex Dex welcome to the family! The Galaxy is one of my all-time favorite game series. Been playing them for over 10 years now! I so mad when Rosalina wasn’t in Brawl but went nuts when I heard she was coming in Smash 4. She was worth the wait. Easily my all time favorite, most unique smash character!
@@Evman95 I'm surprised she wasn't in brawl. Also honestly I saw them in the stores when they both came out but I just didn't have any interest in them when I was a little kid. But now I love them.
Rex Dex Yeah. I always thought it so strange that they left her out since Galaxy was THE definitive opening title for the Wii. Galaxy was like Halo 3 for the 360. So when smash came out, like over a year later, I was so disappointed to not see her. I thought for sure, if anyone would be added, it would be her. We got snake instead. Haha
The other day I was beating on the Donkey Kong and had so much fun making him run around with Luma on the other side of the stage, poor thing was flying left and right like a pin-ball.
ur videos r as informational as always helping me with rosalina every day but ive been practicing up jump cancel up tilt but i use the c stick for my tilt sense i struggle pulling out up tilt with a and up do i have to practice without c stick?
NickLeo Smash oh thank u so much for jump cancels i usually dash attack and x for cancel becuz i also play peach but i think ill have an easier time with L than x while using the c stick thank u so much again keep up the amazing work 😊
It’s in Part 3: the advanced tech guide! To do it, input a dash attack, then within 2 frames, input a jump. Luma will do a dash attack and Rosa will do an aerial depending on the direction the control stick was in right after the jump was input (nair is often the most useful)
I’m quite new to playing Rosalina. I can get her combos and movement down, but I struggle with protecting luma at times and crack when an opponent is pressuring me. Any tips to make attack cancels easier? I’ve seen all of your Rosa videos and they’re quite well made and informative. I also use Pro Controller btw
It’s extra important to keep pressure off you when playing Rosa because luma gets hit by almost everything even when you’re shielding, to avoid cracking under pressure try to work on your dash dancing game as Rosa is really fast when grounded and can easily whiff punish with dash-attack-canceled (DAC) grabs or aggressive DAC Nairs. If you get combo’d try to drift offstage where you will rarely be challenged and reset the situation, If luma gets hit but you don’t, just stand close by as your opponent will either hit luma (which you can freely punish) or they’ll wait and let luma out of hitstun. And to more easily attack cancel, definitely set your right stick to Tilt and your left or right bumper to jump, this way you can attack with the c-stick and instantly jump cancel it.
Regarding practice, what is the way you found best to quickly grab onto tech? Should you play with actual people and practice while learning their common response? Or should you go to training and redo tech over and over.
I personally would grind tech in the training room until it’s pretty consistent, then when I’m playing against someone I try to integrate it whenever it feels appropriate. It takes a while to get used to finding the little moments where certain tech is most useful especially depending on the matchup. The tech that I think you should be able to get with a high rate of consistency first are dash attack canceled nairs and tilt canceled nairs
CoolRicky2103461 Fire don’t be sorry! Ask a third question if you want to lol, I’m happy to help You don’t necessarily need use the grab button to wave dash, however when you do, it inputs the air dodge earlier for some reason which can save you time. So I recommend always wave dashing with the grab button but you can still do otherwise if you really want to
What controller is best to use when playing Rosalina and Luma? Right now I have a pro switch controller but I can’t get her to move fast enough to pull most of these moves off.
Hello! If you don't mind, I just have a little question on something I've been trying to experiment for a short while now. My favourite little gimmick when trying to set-up some RosaLuma spacing and desync was to jump while using Side+B with the opponent at mid-range of the pellets. But after many times trying this at short range, I don't feel like I could set up anything viable. Do you appear to have tried things around this in your experience? Or do you think this set-up isn't so worth it?
KuroTenshi67 MUGEN Programming I have experimented with that before and if I recall correctly, it doesn’t true combo into anything, but it’s a cool mix up and is pretty good if you follow up with a grab. Against big heavies you can Fthrow then dash and jump forward with starbits , then grab, but again I don’t think it’s guaranteed. At high percent I’ve done this with a full hop, then down air’d them off the ground, then combo’d into up smash too
Damn Straight you just need to mash REALLY fast when you aren’t hitting a player and hold A after it starts This is a very common question so you aren’t alone on this lol
Personally I use GameCube- Tilt Attack to C-Stick - Makes it much easier to use attack cancels as well as tilts after dashing -L to Jump - Because the C-stick is typically used for tilts and dash attacks, you can't easily cancel your attacks with a jump in 2-frames unless you use a bumper (L or R) -D-Pad Up to Jump - This is specifically set to make it easier to execute the Rising Luma Shot ledgetrap as it's a little more difficult to short hop while buffering Luma shot with the default jump buttons
I always love these videos! Thank you so much for making them NickLeo Smash! Also is there any way I could be mentioned in one of ur vids for watching these and to subscribe to me? That would be much appreciated!
Ricky Osuna well you can’t up air with luma while airdodging with Rosa but you can Up Tilt. It’s easier if you set your C stick to tilt and your jump to L or R, then super quickly input, up tilt-> jump -> airdodge down with the grab button Practice in training mode at 1/4 speed and start by only canceling the up tilt into a Nair at first and add the air dodge later Best of luck!
Logan Cruz haha, I find that it’s mentally easier to process when you just do a regular ole dac Nair, but tack on that last input with Z at the end If you get it once, you’ll master it soon, just grind out the input for a short while
Is it just me or is this character rosalina co trolling her body gaurd who she gets back an infinite amount of times and running away until the bodyguard returns sort of like olimar
Maybe it’s just cause I’ve had so little time to practice but whenever I try to dac nair it ends up as either a dac short hop fair or a dac nair where I don’t move forward. Do you retap the control stick after nairing?
You need to release the control stick at the same time as your jump input otherwise you’ll get dac fair. Right after Rosa actually starts using Nair, you can drift again. I think it helps to practice on slower speeds in training and to gradually speed it up
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Be sure to check out the new tech in part 2 by clicking here!: ua-cam.com/video/fT4VVS5ZGPY/v-deo.html
My brain is melting over how complex Rosa is, thanks for the help!
While recalling you can also stall Luma's momentum with rapid jab. This can be useful for infinite egde guards like in smash 4.
Tobiz Yes thank you for mentioning! I literally had that same thought right after I posted this 🤦🏻♂️
Rosalina & Luma are so interesting. They have such amazing techs and they take a lot of skill to be good with, I love that. I'm thinking about doing my own Rosa montage on my channel soon as well.
Jayden Tea Inc. I’d love to see it!
Wow! Great vid. Totally gonna implement these techniques into my gameplay. Rip up air though. Can’t believe Luma didn’t kill villager at the height and percent. Oh well
Eyyy, been waiting for another one. Fantastic video! Keep up the great work.
Amazing as always, but you dropped a knowledge bomb at the end about luma’s detethered multiplier. Shocked me a little. Love your dedication, and glad to hear your problems are okay.
Thx for the vid man, making sure admins on the rosacord add this to resources. 😄
Thanks for the update. I'll be sure to practice this😁😁😁
I need this. I try to use Luma detethered, but lol I'm bad. So thanks is the word I say.
I reccomend detethering her but after a combo tether her it will make you more confident
I don't really have a question, about rosa but I would like to say I really appreciate your channel and you have helped me a lot (also do you ever plan on doing games with subscribers?)
Landon Olanubi thank you! :)
I will consider it, but tbh I haven’t played online in a long time because every time I’ve tried it’s been suuuper laggy
Luma is so cute. I love when Luma is detethered and Rosalina walk towards Luma it moves forward. 🤩
When I got the notification I've never clicked on a video so fast!
I'm glad you're putting out all this content along with dabuz I've been putting the work in for rosa and I'm using a smashbox... I would get some sick back n forth stuff but I didn't neccesarily understand the mechanics behind it so this is dope
Good stuff,
If you master jump canceling your tilts, the back and forth combos get waaay more interesting
I just finished Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 so that's how you know I'm a true Rosa main.
Rex Dex welcome to the family! The Galaxy is one of my all-time favorite game series. Been playing them for over 10 years now! I so mad when Rosalina wasn’t in Brawl but went nuts when I heard she was coming in Smash 4. She was worth the wait. Easily my all time favorite, most unique smash character!
@@Evman95 I'm surprised she wasn't in brawl. Also honestly I saw them in the stores when they both came out but I just didn't have any interest in them when I was a little kid. But now I love them.
Rex Dex Yeah. I always thought it so strange that they left her out since Galaxy was THE definitive opening title for the Wii. Galaxy was like Halo 3 for the 360. So when smash came out, like over a year later, I was so disappointed to not see her. I thought for sure, if anyone would be added, it would be her. We got snake instead. Haha
@@Evman95 yeah snake.😑
There!
amazing video. i needa study the hell out of this tech
"You should be close enough to punish your opponent for hitting Luma"
Sounds like what Rosalina would do to protect the Lumas, I want to do that too.
FireBlaze 10,000 IQ character design
The other day I was beating on the Donkey Kong and had so much fun making him run around with Luma on the other side of the stage, poor thing was flying left and right like a pin-ball.
ur videos r as informational as always helping me with rosalina every day but ive been practicing up jump cancel up tilt but i use the c stick for my tilt sense i struggle pulling out up tilt with a and up do i have to practice without c stick?
Shh Child any button layout will work if it’s comfy for you! I personally prefer c-stick for tilts and L for jump cancels
NickLeo Smash oh thank u so much for jump cancels i usually dash attack and x for cancel becuz i also play peach but i think ill have an easier time with L than x while using the c stick thank u so much again keep up the amazing work 😊
Interesting
How do you preform a dac nair? If its in a video can you tell me which one? Great video btw!
It’s in Part 3: the advanced tech guide!
To do it, input a dash attack, then within 2 frames, input a jump.
Luma will do a dash attack and Rosa will do an aerial depending on the direction the control stick was in right after the jump was input (nair is often the most useful)
I’m quite new to playing Rosalina. I can get her combos and movement down, but I struggle with protecting luma at times and crack when an opponent is pressuring me. Any tips to make attack cancels easier? I’ve seen all of your Rosa videos and they’re quite well made and informative. I also use Pro Controller btw
It’s extra important to keep pressure off you when playing Rosa because luma gets hit by almost everything even when you’re shielding, to avoid cracking under pressure try to work on your dash dancing game as Rosa is really fast when grounded and can easily whiff punish with dash-attack-canceled (DAC) grabs or aggressive DAC Nairs.
If you get combo’d try to drift offstage where you will rarely be challenged and reset the situation, If luma gets hit but you don’t, just stand close by as your opponent will either hit luma (which you can freely punish) or they’ll wait and let luma out of hitstun.
And to more easily attack cancel, definitely set your right stick to Tilt and your left or right bumper to jump, this way you can attack with the c-stick and instantly jump cancel it.
Regarding practice, what is the way you found best to quickly grab onto tech? Should you play with actual people and practice while learning their common response? Or should you go to training and redo tech over and over.
I personally would grind tech in the training room until it’s pretty consistent, then when I’m playing against someone I try to integrate it whenever it feels appropriate. It takes a while to get used to finding the little moments where certain tech is most useful especially depending on the matchup.
The tech that I think you should be able to get with a high rate of consistency first are dash attack canceled nairs and tilt canceled nairs
I’m sry this is my second question :( but do you have to air dodge with the grab button or can you use shield (specially for wave dashing)
CoolRicky2103461 Fire don’t be sorry! Ask a third question if you want to lol, I’m happy to help
You don’t necessarily need use the grab button to wave dash, however when you do, it inputs the air dodge earlier for some reason which can save you time.
So I recommend always wave dashing with the grab button but you can still do otherwise if you really want to
Thank you so much for being incredibly helpful, I wish I could do more for you besides subbing 😅
What controller is best to use when playing Rosalina and Luma? Right now I have a pro switch controller but I can’t get her to move fast enough to pull most of these moves off.
Pro controller should be fine, but you should consider remapping some buttons to make the inputs as easy as possible
It’s hard for me to do a reverse luma shot 😿
Hello! If you don't mind, I just have a little question on something I've been trying to experiment for a short while now. My favourite little gimmick when trying to set-up some RosaLuma spacing and desync was to jump while using Side+B with the opponent at mid-range of the pellets. But after many times trying this at short range, I don't feel like I could set up anything viable. Do you appear to have tried things around this in your experience? Or do you think this set-up isn't so worth it?
KuroTenshi67 MUGEN Programming I have experimented with that before and if I recall correctly, it doesn’t true combo into anything, but it’s a cool mix up and is pretty good if you follow up with a grab. Against big heavies you can Fthrow then dash and jump forward with starbits , then grab, but again I don’t think it’s guaranteed.
At high percent I’ve done this with a full hop, then down air’d them off the ground, then combo’d into up smash too
@@Nick_Leo Got it! I will try to lab setups first for heavies before focusing on more general things with it then. Thank you very much ^^
I can’t seem to rapid jab whenever I want and I don’t know what’s wrong :/ any tips ?
Damn Straight you just need to mash REALLY fast when you aren’t hitting a player and hold A after it starts
This is a very common question so you aren’t alone on this lol
What are the recommended buttons
Personally I use GameCube-
Tilt Attack to C-Stick - Makes it much easier to use attack cancels as well as tilts after dashing
-L to Jump - Because the C-stick is typically used for tilts and dash attacks, you can't easily cancel your attacks with a jump in 2-frames unless you use a bumper (L or R)
-D-Pad Up to Jump - This is specifically set to make it easier to execute the Rising Luma Shot ledgetrap as it's a little more difficult to short hop while buffering Luma shot with the default jump buttons
I always love these videos! Thank you so much for making them NickLeo Smash! Also is there any way I could be mentioned in one of ur vids for watching these and to subscribe to me? That would be much appreciated!
Wizards N' Dragons subscribed :)
NickLeo Smash Thank you so much!
I am trying sooooo hard to do lumas up air while trying to air dodge to the ground what am I doing wrong? 😭
Ricky Osuna well you can’t up air with luma while airdodging with Rosa but you can Up Tilt.
It’s easier if you set your C stick to tilt and your jump to L or R, then super quickly input, up tilt-> jump -> airdodge down with the grab button
Practice in training mode at 1/4 speed and start by only canceling the up tilt into a Nair at first and add the air dodge later
Best of luck!
Dude I'm having such a hard time trying to figure out Dac Nairdash
OMG I DID IT - but now I can't do it again
Logan Cruz haha, I find that it’s mentally easier to process when you just do a regular ole dac Nair, but tack on that last input with Z at the end
If you get it once, you’ll master it soon, just grind out the input for a short while
I'm actually getting the hang of it. Thanks for the tips!
Is it just me or is this character rosalina co trolling her body gaurd who she gets back an infinite amount of times and running away until the bodyguard returns sort of like olimar
Yeah you can think of it like that lol
You just have much more control over your bodyguard than olimar
Maybe it’s just cause I’ve had so little time to practice but whenever I try to dac nair it ends up as either a dac short hop fair or a dac nair where I don’t move forward. Do you retap the control stick after nairing?
You need to release the control stick at the same time as your jump input otherwise you’ll get dac fair.
Right after Rosa actually starts using Nair, you can drift again.
I think it helps to practice on slower speeds in training and to gradually speed it up
Gee I wish I could play but I’m banned for an hour and a half because I disconnected
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