I'm trying to compare what he's saying about the industry, fans etc. with Joe Jackson's career & things *he's said* about the same issues & without knowing the details of either, it's impossible. Joe was for some reason incredibly lucky & no record execs ever gave him any ultimatums. But that doesn't explain things like the popularity of Jumpin' Jive, the album _or_ the tour. It was something no one asked for or wanted, & it's not like he was a sex symbol or good singer. & he'd often yell at his own fans. That could be a part of Wilson's experience though. He could only know how he's irritated his fans by making himself accessible _to_ them. That itself can be a mistake. People idolize & *want* to idolize musicians. Treating them with respect can upset their semi-conscious wishes to elevate you. But I'm pissing in the wind here.
I was introduced to Porcupine Tree in `95 and I`ve listened to all their albums but for me the best thing Steven Wilson has made is Hand Cannot Erase, it`s a masterpiece.
I don't like his recent experiments, but I'd rather be like this; meaning his doing new things than to be stuck in one thing. So, like it or not, I am going to be his follower. Always.
There are people who still want to engage with music on a deeper level, indeed. I'm one of those.... I love Steven Wilson's music and I'm really looking forward to listen to the new album.
Wilson’s definition of genius is simplistic. He seems to be defining G-d when he goes on about geniuses never making a bad record or writing a bad song.
I think when Steven started producing them they got better definitely sonically. Wish him and Mikael would do another storm corrosion album. Porcupine tree also got heavier after Steven producing them. I’ve watched the making of damnation and deliverance so many times
As much as I love blackwater park I don’t think it’s worth the hype it gets. Personally I think the album before that “Still life” is a much better album, Better riffs & melodies, Very diverse and technical with a very somber and melancholic atmosphere which completely encapsulates with the concept of that album which in itself is beautiful. The reason BWP gets all the credit is because it was there breakthrough album, It was on a major label with worldwide distribution and that sent them off to worldwide domination you could say. Wilson’s hand in that album certainly helped and the production is top notch, creative and certainly not your run of the mill metal productions that was happening at the time. Mikeal himself has stated many times what I just said about BWP and even he doesn’t see much of a difference between that album and the one before. Don’t get me wrong I love BWP and everything Mikeal has ever written I just prefer “Still life”
I wouldn't normally sit down to listen to an interview these days, but this guy is different. Fantastic interview Rob, wish we had people like you on the tv, chat shows need a shot in the arm!
We need to get Steven into King Gizzard. They’re the exact type of band he’s talking about, that can make any genre work for them and their personality still shines through.
I discovered Steven Wilson 4 years ago, Signify, and have been hooked since. Prog Rock is my favorite type of rock and I love that his music is engaging such as the great Prog Rock bands of the past i.e. Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Genesis, Kansas etc.
I really enjoyed this conversation, and can totally relate to this guy. A musician I've never heard of btw, and now I'm looking forward to checking out both Opeth and Porcupine Tree, thanks to everyone who commented. I went to a Music Industry Arts college in the 90's and it was made clear to me with this statement: "You can do whatever it takes to make it, or be broke and be an artist." I went, "oh, I thought we were here how to learn how to support us as artists" but it was definitely the former, and it made my decision easy. I make music because I have been obsessed with it since I was young, not to be famous or make money or get attention. The idea of pandering in music makes me slightly nauseous and I feel good when I go to sleep at night that I have built my own world around my musical expression. I don't even like to play the same songs at shows! lol. And like Steven, I feel like "I've already done that, why would I repeat myself?" I like the idea of having the freedom to do whatever I want and I claim that freedom and never take it for granted. Thanks for this video and passionate comments, nice to know I still have a musical family out there that resonates with this mindset.
I’m 61 and a album listener I want the journey not interest in single songs. Great interview and S Wilson is brilliant, I’ve seen him with PT and as a solo artist. One of my favorite musicians with Opeth and Rush. Cheers from Sweden ❤️🙏🏽🎶☮️
Holy sh*t, when Steven talks about AI music at 1:20:00, I think I saw David Bowie talking about the Internet in an interview decades ago. Unreal feeling.
Somewhere around the 40:00 mark Steven says that the first album you fall in love with will always hold a special place in your heart. Definitely true, but PT’s latest album has completely blown me away and is actually now my favourite. It just goes to show how an artist can grow and how a fan can grow with them. But still… as a general rule I think he’s right 🤣
Two of my absolute favourite Steven Wilson interviews have been conducted by you, Rob. This was a real treat yet again, thank you. Steven's insights on A.I, and the 'In Rainbows' campaign were especially fascinating!
Thank you that means a lot sir, A lot of work, time and money goes into these so it feels good that it is valued. Who else would you like me to interview?
@@RobMooreDisruptorsI feel it’ll be next to impossible but Richard D James aka Aphex Twin. His musical life is a case study (one of the biggest inspirations behind Radiohead, Steven Wilson, etc among others)
@@RobMooreDisruptors How about the genius himself, Mikael Åkerfeldt!? 🤔😝😀 I would say he fits the bill as a disruptor in terms of going against the grain, and confronting his audience's expectations!
@@RobMooreDisruptorsHi Rob! These 2 interviews are extremely brilliant and fascinating….Steven Wilson….is the n.1 that is known by very few people. Now i’d like you to interview a game changer….a woman (the music business needs more!) Tori Amos. She is equally prolific as Steven and could give her view on many many subjects. Please take her on! 🙏🏼
To all independent musicians who still believe in genuine form of art. I Praise you. SW inspired me on this interview to pick up my guitar and return creating music for whatever reason. I've lost my sould working on a job I hate just to survive. It's hard times for creative souls era.
Love this comment. It's how I feel. Be true to yourself, and I feel you'll find an audience that recognizes that sincerity. Most artists striving for a "career" don't understand that most people are actually looking for something fresh and genuine. The arts are in a rut right now, trying to copy what's come before to stay "relevant" and I personally think most people are waiting, and will respond to the new.
Someone said to me years ago that you need a profession to fall back on, in order to "finance" your own musical journey and development. It's a hard truth for working class aspiring musicians, creators and performers.
Steven's "cool nerd" quotient is off the charts. Much respect for this man of achievement. Would love to hear Stevens take on other gifted solo artists that lead bands like Bill Nelson and BeBop Deluxe?; Todd Rundgren and Utopia?; etc.
Every time I hear Steven talk I learn something new. Thank you Steven for sharing not only your amazing music but also your knowledge. Excellent job has been done by the interviewer!
with indian percussion instrument tabla in Linton Samuel Dawson and 4 chords that made a million and much more... such a diverse and unbelievable music.. and yet this man is so damn humble....and hence this side of music and musicians is very different but great!!!!! ❤
I could sit here and write a long paragraph on what and why I love Steve Wilson, but I won't bore you. I think he is the most interesting, and thought provoking artist in music. As well as being a true virtuoso guitarist. I'm now waiting for Lee Anderton to interview him on how he learned to play the guitar so well, and his instrument journey. I want to know how he is able to make the guitar sing like no other.
@@RobMooreDisruptors I watched it the day it was released. Along with every other interview he has done on UA-cam, and around the media. Your two interviews are the best though. A very relaxed atmosphere, with zero awkwardness.
@@niebuhrsongs The Andertons UA-cam channel. Lee Anderton (the owner) has a section called The Captain Meets, where he interviews guitarists, and asks them mainly about their upbringing, and why they picked up a guitar? He has interviewed some of the biggest names in the music industry.
Just love listening to Steve talking about ins and outs of music and creativity....so many of us creatives out there are failing everday, continuing drawing on our energies as much as we can because thats our passion. Talks like this give a lovely perspective on things. Great point about investing yourself into great music or any new music. Many are growers....or better still you grow with the music even if you did start off going 'wtf!' The many wtfs in my experience too, tend to be those moments you later realise required you to grow a bit. Great interview Rob.
I'd love to interview Steven Wilson one day to give another perspective on the music industry. I'm currently 17 years old and starting out as a musician, it's hard. But to be fair it's always been hard and it's always been about commerical succes or else you'll fade into the darkness. There are so so so many bands from the 60's and 70's with decent or even amazing music that just didn't make it. Cause even back then commercial success would mean the band could survive. There were still bands around that time that were too experimental and weren't pick up. And today with spotify, the algorithm can learn the genres you like and you can find artists through discover weekly. And of course you can search for them yourself, just type in a genre and maybe a year, and bam there's so many playlists with amazing artists. It's how I found Porcupine Tree, The Pinneapple Thief, Marillion, Transatlantic, Liquid Tension Experiment, Long Distance Calling, Al Stewart, Styx, Starcastle, Anathema, Naxatras, Liquify, Jean-Luc Ponty, Gilgamesh, The Aristocrats, Brand X, Weather Report, Mahavisnu Orchestra, T-SQUARE, Casiopea, and many many more, both obscure and well known artists. So I'd love to sit down with him and just talk about music, bands and albums with him and learn from his experiences.
I am disappointed in a few of Steven Wilson's albums, but I respect his talent so much that I am not running away from him, just excited to see what is next.
Love Steven Wilson. I'm a year older than him and following his career has helped me keep an interest in new music. Other bands I've followed for decades still put out albums but their creative peak is long gone. Steven still excites & impresses with every new record.
1:31 The fact that Porcupine Tree got dropped after Deadwing (2005) should be a badge of honor for Porcupine Tree, considering where the music industry was in 2005.
Prog rock fan since the early 70’s, only discovered Porcupine Tree a few month’s ago, wow what a discovery the PT music is brilliant, some of the best music ever! Really want to see PT live - come to Leeds sometime soon!😊
Played Leeds Uni years ago on (I think) the Blank Planet tour. And yes they were brilliant. Being a drummer couldn't take my eyes off Gavins drumming 😂
Steven Wilson is an artist that I'd overlooked and didn't really know about. My son turned me on to Personal Shopper and I went from there. I had no idea the well of knowledge and talent that Steve possesses. He's a great interview and full of wisdom and insight. Top shelf. ❤
I said in your 1st Steven Wilson's interview that it was the BEST Steven Wilson's interview ever. Well....this is at the same level. Thank you so much for it!
Utterly surreal to hear Steven Wilson bring up Terence Trent Darby! It's like if you were watching a Craig David interview and he suddenly mentioned The Exploited.
I liked his thoughts on how an artist is doomed to make you feel like he/she did in their seminal record, and how he praises artists who, knowing that, try to bring you to new territories. I don't like all of his recent albums but I truly respect his view.
I completely agree with SW's contention that a listener's 'entry point' to a band's recorded catalogue is a sweet spot that the artist can never really surpass (for that listener). That sweet spot will be a different album for many different people. I have found that the initial exposure to that band's 'sound' makes an emotional impact, particularly if I really like it, and wires my brain a particular way which affects my experience with their other albums.
My entry point was "To The Bone" and more specifically "Pariah". Then I tried Insurgentes and the first track blew me away. For PT I was introduced with a leant CD of the "Stars Die" compilation, I loved that. Then he leant me Deadwing and I was fascinated by the difference, at first I didn't like it, but now I love it. He'd heard I like Floyd. I think though that his music is consistently good that I am discovering new favourites all time time. Current fave. is Normal live at Tilberg, that whole live set is amazing.
I like Steven Wilson because he is one of the rare artists who manages to surprise me with each album and if he started to always do the same thing with each album, to always redo In Absentia or The Future Bites for example, that would not I would simply not be interested in it at all. There, I like the fact that Steven released an album like Hand Cannot Erase, then To The Bone then The Future Bites then The Harmony Codex. With each announcement of the release of a new Steven Wilson album, I always wonder what musical direction he will take and that's what I like about this artist. I realize that the artists I prefer are those who manage to constantly surprise me.
I think Genesis falls into this category of musicians as well, they went from kind of folk rock to prog rock / album rock then to pop rock and progressive pop and mixed all kinds of genres whilst doing so. Phil Collins also switched a lot with his solo albums (at least before Dance Into The Light).
I wonder what Steven think about the band Ulver who was at one point his labelmate at Kscope. The band started out as a black metal band who eventually evolved to multiple genres like folk, psychedelic rock, ambient, post-rock...and currently they are primarily a synthpop group.
The discussion remind me of bands like Arctic Monkeys that have changed completely their style and i think it has been refreshing for a rock/pop band to try something out of their success formula, but lots of people were just expecting a new AM album just for the nostalgia of what they felt listen to AM the first time.
I discovered Arctic Monkeys during AM, but Tranquility Base? Wow. What an album. I'm not easily blown away by an album, but that one did (and it still does). One of the best albums I've ever heard.
@@leonnehaaijman4709 i listened Arctic Monkeys before AM, so when i first heard tranquility base i didn't knew how to react, i did like some songs but not all the album as a whole... But then i listened to it a few years later and suddenly it became a masterpiece in my ears, maybe because i was already listening to other music instead of the classic indie rock I used to when I was younger.
Steven Wilson is the most important musician of the history. His talent is beyond human comprehension. I saw him four times and the shows are nothing but perfection.
Disribution on so many platforms and to write and share feels so good to me, eventhough Im so minimal as I improvise almost everything I do Steven is absolutely the best. He is always fresh to my ears and at times I rabbit hole jazz artists, but with that said Steven Wilson always said LISTEN TO MUSIC. I listen to music as I did when I was young, checking artists, stats, and who is producing these projects. Very insightful because Steven is he has from experience holds his integrity on what he does ans that is why we get the product he writes ans produces. The world needs to know more about him, truly an artist of our TIMES. Blessings to Steven Wilson.
When I first discovered Porcupine Tree I was somewhat disappointed that I had not discovered them earlier and could not understand why i never heard of them. It is now inconceivable that so many people are missing out. Poor souls.
Excellent interview. Or rather, a conversation between 2 people who share the same passion. Even with a small snot in his nose, Steve can appear extremely nonchalant and intelligent. Huge fan.
Great interview, some amazing topics covered! I think Steven has already done his Greatest Hits tour. The recent PT tour for Closure/Contination consisted of all of these (Blackest Eyes, Anesthetize, Even Less, Muzak, Blank Planet etc.) Fantastic setlist
Another great interview with Steven Rob. Really enjoy the quality of questions that you ask. Not just the typical stuff that many interviewers ask. Also yes, I did see the first interview you did with Steven and it was great as well. Looking forward to more of you with Steven. Seems like he enjoys the discussions with you.
These topics have been a prevalent focus of my internal conversations for years, and even moreso recently... such an insightful interview! The balancing act of artistic success, and the influences of that success on an artist has always been fascinating to me. Rob asks some truly compelling questions, and Steven is so very 'aware', articulate, and personable with his responses. Loved this!
This is a really interesting conversation and I appreciate that in here Steven is willing to be wrong or to have his perspective changed with good arguments. Regarding the Metallica example I believe the opposite, Metallica has been notoriously chasing popular trends since the black album. They tried "pop metal", they tried to "grunge-efy" their sound when grunge was popular and then they tried nu- metal with no solos when Nu-Metal was at peak popularity. Lulu I think its the outlier and it is a James's passion project, which is great, but the rest of them is just Lars chasing popular trends and relevancy. Marketing wise it 100% worked for them, but the fans were not blinded by the obvious chase for trends. Some people liked them, some not. I wouldn't personally praise it, but i enjoy some of the songs they did during this phase. I would rather choose a band that did a 3rd great album that maybe didnt sound different because the choose to remain themselves and not go trend-chasing
Top job, Rob- you're an intelligent and skilled moderator. Extremely pleased with your chat with Steven; both brilliant. Subscribed and looking forward to seeing more of your work.
Music should be made to what the feeling when you make it is. No matter wht genre it falls Into. It should also be about what you have been through or think about certain things. One word INTEGRITY
All it took for me to become absolutely mesmerized was a song that I accidentally stumbled upon a couple months ago "Arriving somewhere but not here", since then I listen to them every day.
Love Steven´s creations. Such an amazing inspiration, as a muscian and as a human being, love his philosophy. I just want to listen him talk for hours.
Steven Wilson won't do the same album twice, but he's done the exact same interview the second time. I will still watch it though, and I look forward to the third one too, Rob.
Love this interview. I've been a fan for about 30 years, when I first saw No-man supporting friends of mine at the Marquee. Really looking forward to new album. I'm a Metal fan, a Prog fan, but what I've always loved about what tge music Steven appears on is the story telling, which is why I'm not rge greatest fan of the Future Bites. But it looks like the new Album, The Harmony Codex, is back to story telling. I will always be interested in whatever Steven does, and whilst I fully understand the idea of wanting the next In Absentia or The Raven who Refused to Sing, I am eager to hear change and moving into new areas. Steven always does a great interview, even when I agree little with what he is saying (that happened a few times with the last album). Looking forward to the next Steven Wilson installment on this particular channel.
My gateway into the vast world of SW was No-Man's "love lies" since being a huge Japan fan, JBK playing on that record made me pay attention. But In Absentia sealed the deal. The last PT record was fantastic too. Hand That Cannot Erase is also a fave SW solo album.
I've seen many interviews with Steven Wilson before and yet learned a lot of new things here. This is not just a Q&A or an interview, really. Rather, a conversation where we could watch both of you develop, and even discover, new thoughts and ideas.
Music in its pure form should be an expression of the person making it, rather than sitting in a pocket if you like making the same thing over and over, STEVEN WILSON is a bloody GENIUS fullstop,...
I can say I'm so lucky that I could see and listen to Porcupine tree live on last 2 tours. Got last PT album on vinyl and looking forward to et more. we as fans should not let these great music die, and engage more ppl in to it. Great interview, thx for heaving Steven for us.
These are my favorite interviews! Exactly those between you and Steven Wilson. Deep thoughtful conversation! I usually don't listen to such long interviews but yours with Steven are simpy enjoyable! Thank you and please keep inviting Steven for such gems in future!
I love the number of Beatles references in this interview. I have a feeling that Steven started to appreciate them a bit more than earlier. Although this interview slightly overlaps with the Part 1 on this channel, I enjoyed it a lot!
@@RobMooreDisruptors Yeah I did Rob. Very rare I'll sit and watch a 2-hour interview from start to finish but I really enjoyed this one. You pushed him on all the things I'd like to push him on if I met him 😂 Being a Steven Wilson fan is like being part of a special club that nobody else knows exists, you'll know exactly what I mean 😀
What a great interview! I do want to add, to the conversation about Spotify, algorithms and playlists, that the "Steven Wilson algorithm" that control my Spotify "radio" has made me discover SO many bands, and new bands to the genre, that I would've never found say 20 years ago! To me, Spotify is a music discovery blessing
I'm 30 now, In Absentia was the album that introduced me to Porcupine Tree and been a fan since. Crazy how such a good album was considered a "failure" causing the label drop at the time
Anyone who is new to PT should take a chance to listen to their live releases. Doesn't even need to be THE best live "official" albums or DVD what-not. Just listen to say "Live in Warszawa" for instance. Nice spread out of their early - mid discography so it's a nice window into that era of PT and not too overwhelming for the new listener. If you like - expand to their later work. Usually that's the case isn't it?
This was a fantastic interview. Steven always comes across so well, but he seemed particulalry relaxed and engaged in this dicussion. Hats off to the interviewer for guiding a very enjoyable chat.
Another great interview Rob. Nice to have a long-form interview where the subject can breathe and tell a deeper, multi-faceted story, rather than a shallow, bite-sized format.
Speaking of that song, that never gets played anymore live, Rob Moore, could you please find out where he found those lyrics in a very subtle message to his fans? i.e. was there a song, albeit a very puerile song perhaps, that he was thinking of when he wrote some of the lyrics to that song mentioned he felt grubby about?
a really excellent and thought-provoking interview. I could never stop thinking about Devin Townsend, who also fitted most of Steven's decriptions of artistic integrety and following ones own passions. They are very much alike in this respect and not coincidentially are among the few artists I by records of without second-guessing.
Steven Wilson is awesome. Not only is he a world class musician, but he also invites other world class musicians to record with him. He is similar to Frank Zappa in that regard - Pretty much everyone in their bands is a multi-instrumentalist. An insane amount of talent in every album.
Don't care for his music or PT, but he sure as hell is second to none remixing classic albums. Jakko and Giles are good, but they can learn a thing or two from Steven Wilson.
So far I've listened to Porcupine tree albums up to 2002 and three Blackfield albums. And...the best thing I've heard is the Blackfield album. This is the best art rock album I've heard in several years! how magical the chords are! what are they doing to me!
Strange thing for me was I really liked most of the 'rejected' songs from "The Future Bites", ie the bonus tracks, more than the tracks actually on the album :)
Of course they were great, however you can't expect all fans to have such a broad musical taste. I've heard about SW during The Incident and before I already had a very diverse taste, including many bands like Doors, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, Alice In Chains, The human League, early Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, Japan, David Sylvian, Peter Gabriel, David Bowie... So basically, I dig anything he's putting out there
@@penusliski i don't get the impression he cares about catering to his audience though, i mean he's said over and over that he tries to please himself first and foremost. I doubt he axed the b-sides out of fear people wouldn't "get it", he probably just wanted it to be a succinct length.
I think the path towards sustainability as a musician going forward (and I am speaking only as an observer) is two-fold. First, the Patreon/Bandcamp model Steven mentioned - have a small core of dedicated fans who you engage with on a regular basis and who buy everything you do (or subscribe so that they get it all automatically). Secondly, touring. Touring touring touring. I don't think an AI will ever be able to replicate the feeling of being in a club with a blues player, or in a park listening to folk music, or a dive bar with a punk band. It comes down to what can't be replicated.
I understand Steven denying the genius label and commend it. Some musicians have extreme gifts and talent in certain areas, but ultimately it’s the heart or spirit as he mentions that brings out these timeless moments in music. I feel the idolatry of impressive musicians and or music in general is a slippery slope. It’s all about the sincerity of expression. Wonderful discussion, just subbed!
The song Steven was talking about was Shallow from Deadwing. And no i didn't have to go back and watch the prev interview because it was so good that I remember all of it. I can't than you enough for doing this. Steven never played shallow a lot even on the first tour, if at all. EDIT: Ok it looks too guts got it figured out before the end of the interview.
My intro to the world of SW was To The Bone. I was stunned, why I not listened to his stuff before! My wife had the Blackfield CD single, but I didn't realise it was SW. Over last few years I've gone and discovered his back catalogue... I knew of PT but never listened to anything by them. The fact he doesn't compromise is what him a true artist.
Love this interview, one the best of it's kind! Great questions, beautiful insights and overall a great view into Steven's mind. More of this please!!!
Love the discussion on how do you continue to please the fans while also not remain stagnant and or stay creative and explore boundaries. With the current news of Portnoy rejoining Dream Theater and all of the discussion around that fact and also listening to a lot of Rick Beato and his breakdowns of Bands and what made them great. Has had ne contemplating the same questions. Thinking back at the bands that I admire and have followed throughout the decades or watched fade into the past. I think in my opinion what makes a great band that will have longevity is to obviously have a great lineup of talent and put out great songs, but I think you have to be able to either be able to bring what the band is going through on a personal level out through the music that the fans can relate to or do so by what the culture is going through at that time. Then be able to do so as time goes on and keep up with cultural evolution while also evolving as a band whether it be getting better on one's instrument, trying new approaches in style, maybe incorporating more or maybe less to the overall sound. It reminds me of watching Queensryche's "Building Empires" video when it came out after their success after their Empire tour. They made the point during the interview that the challenge ahead was going to be to still grow and evolve. To not become to comfortable in the success and remain complacent. If one was to listed to Operation Mindcrime, To Empire, then Promise Land, all three are very different but in my opinion great in their own way.
He explained very well the reason I can't get into Blackwater Park, it's a heavy death metal album but with a lot of complexity in the production, which makes this album a little too hard for me to enjoy it slowly, since it's too complexe and overstimulating for me
27:40 talking about bands that created their own musical universe: I've always felt this way to Porcupine Tree. When somebody would ask me about what kind of music I like listening to, I was like "I really like Porcupine Tree" (what is a complete understatement, just not to seem too fanatic and nerdy) and they were like "Haha, funny name :D What kind of music do they make?" And I'd be like "Yeeeaahh, well .... they sound like Porcupine Tree." "Hu? I don't get it. Anyways ..." and they'd never experience the joy of discovering that niche but sooo unique music. Even though the Closure/Continuation album has many new twists and sounds in it, I'd aaaalllwaaayys recognize my favourite band behind these songs. You just can't miss their spirit. And yeah, I think that's way cooler than any genre could be. It's like inventing a new colour that nobody knew of before and watching it just shakes your heart ❤ Omg I love them soo much I could keep nerding about them for hours :D 🥲
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I feel like someday in the future Steven Wilson’s music will become more well known and widely respected.
Considering the current consumerism trend, 'widely' will probably be still rather limited, as it is right now
Like Bill and Ted
the day he stops being an entitled and pretentious wanker.
Already happening with porcupine tree in particular.
I love it!
Ridiculously good interview. Loved hearing Steven as a listener/friend to the interviewer, seeing him in a real person setting
Thank you, did you see the first interview, here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
It was great right
I'm trying to compare what he's saying about the industry, fans etc. with Joe Jackson's career & things *he's said* about the same issues & without knowing the details of either, it's impossible. Joe was for some reason incredibly lucky & no record execs ever gave him any ultimatums.
But that doesn't explain things like the popularity of Jumpin' Jive, the album _or_ the tour. It was something no one asked for or wanted, & it's not like he was a sex symbol or good singer. & he'd often yell at his own fans.
That could be a part of Wilson's experience though. He could only know how he's irritated his fans by making himself accessible _to_ them. That itself can be a mistake. People idolize & *want* to idolize musicians. Treating them with respect can upset their semi-conscious wishes to elevate you. But I'm pissing in the wind here.
I was introduced to Porcupine Tree in `95 and I`ve listened to all their albums but for me the best thing Steven Wilson has made is Hand Cannot Erase, it`s a masterpiece.
One of many
You're an Eraserhead, huh.
Are you saying that there are things better than the Blackfield 2004 album?
I don't like his recent experiments, but I'd rather be like this; meaning his doing new things than to be stuck in one thing. So, like it or not, I am going to be his follower. Always.
There are people who still want to engage with music on a deeper level, indeed. I'm one of those.... I love Steven Wilson's music and I'm really looking forward to listen to the new album.
Me too, I am with you. Did you watch the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
Same for me, don't like empty-shelled pop music.
@@RobMooreDisruptors Yes, I did!
@@KnightedBean can't wait to add the album to my cd collection
You are a great interviewer subbed. @@RobMooreDisruptors
Opeth's Blackwater Park record is magnum opus of metal music. Sometimes I can't believe that album exists. It's that good.
It's even better than that! Did you see our first interview, here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
Wilson’s definition of genius is simplistic. He seems to be defining G-d when he goes on about geniuses never making a bad record or writing a bad song.
That said, I find Wilson to be an enlightening analyst of music.
I think when Steven started producing them they got better definitely sonically. Wish him and Mikael would do another storm corrosion album. Porcupine tree also got heavier after Steven producing them. I’ve watched the making of damnation and deliverance so many times
As much as I love blackwater park I don’t think it’s worth the hype it gets. Personally I think the album before that “Still life” is a much better album, Better riffs & melodies, Very diverse and technical with a very somber and melancholic atmosphere which completely encapsulates with the concept of that album which in itself is beautiful. The reason BWP gets all the credit is because it was there breakthrough album, It was on a major label with worldwide distribution and that sent them off to worldwide domination you could say. Wilson’s hand in that album certainly helped and the production is top notch, creative and certainly not your run of the mill metal productions that was happening at the time. Mikeal himself has stated many times what I just said about BWP and even he doesn’t see much of a difference between that album and the one before. Don’t get me wrong I love BWP and everything Mikeal has ever written I just prefer “Still life”
I wouldn't normally sit down to listen to an interview these days, but this guy is different. Fantastic interview Rob, wish we had people like you on the tv, chat shows need a shot in the arm!
That is really kind, thank you. Did you watch the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
Absolutely, these interviews are different and worth it.
@@RobMooreDisruptors I certainly did. Love Steve's reaction to the 'I think your music is fucking amazing' part, made my day that!
same :)
what was your favourite part
We need to get Steven into King Gizzard. They’re the exact type of band he’s talking about, that can make any genre work for them and their personality still shines through.
Omg this is so funny! I was thinking about king gizzard during all the interview. This guys are really doing something.
That’s what I thought!!!!!
Ironically, I only like every 3rd or 4th album they make. I only like the "prog" albums, lol. Prog as I see it of course.
Was looking for this comment. If you can create a universe and community with an attitude like that, then you’re solid.
@@JasonSositko that's the case for most people I think, they put out so much stuff, it's always gonna be hit and miss depending on your tastes.
I discovered Steven Wilson 4 years ago, Signify, and have been hooked since. Prog Rock is my favorite type of rock and I love that his music is engaging such as the great Prog Rock bands of the past i.e. Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Genesis, Kansas etc.
I really enjoyed this conversation, and can totally relate to this guy. A musician I've never heard of btw, and now I'm looking forward to checking out both Opeth and Porcupine Tree, thanks to everyone who commented. I went to a Music Industry Arts college in the 90's and it was made clear to me with this statement: "You can do whatever it takes to make it, or be broke and be an artist." I went, "oh, I thought we were here how to learn how to support us as artists" but it was definitely the former, and it made my decision easy. I make music because I have been obsessed with it since I was young, not to be famous or make money or get attention. The idea of pandering in music makes me slightly nauseous and I feel good when I go to sleep at night that I have built my own world around my musical expression. I don't even like to play the same songs at shows! lol. And like Steven, I feel like "I've already done that, why would I repeat myself?" I like the idea of having the freedom to do whatever I want and I claim that freedom and never take it for granted. Thanks for this video and passionate comments, nice to know I still have a musical family out there that resonates with this mindset.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. Did you see the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
You won’t be disappointed with either.
Check out Fear of a Blank Planet by PT - a Masterpiece!
Fear of a Blank Planet is seriously amazing, I second this. Great work in Porcupine Tree, great solo work, and is a genius producer.
Your life is about to change.
I’m 61 and a album listener I want the journey not interest in single songs. Great interview and S Wilson is brilliant, I’ve seen him with PT and as a solo artist. One of my favorite musicians with Opeth and Rush. Cheers from Sweden ❤️🙏🏽🎶☮️
Hej 😊
Holy sh*t, when Steven talks about AI music at 1:20:00, I think I saw David Bowie talking about the Internet in an interview decades ago. Unreal feeling.
Somewhere around the 40:00 mark Steven says that the first album you fall in love with will always hold a special place in your heart. Definitely true, but PT’s latest album has completely blown me away and is actually now my favourite. It just goes to show how an artist can grow and how a fan can grow with them.
But still… as a general rule I think he’s right 🤣
I loved that album. I think it did a great job of balancing innovative song writing while keeping the essence of ppt that we know and love
It was definitely good. But not Signify or In Abtentia good.
Two of my absolute favourite Steven Wilson interviews have been conducted by you, Rob. This was a real treat yet again, thank you. Steven's insights on A.I, and the 'In Rainbows' campaign were especially fascinating!
Thank you that means a lot sir, A lot of work, time and money goes into these so it feels good that it is valued. Who else would you like me to interview?
Vindsval, the guy behind Blut Aus Nord... greatest genius in extreme metal...
@@RobMooreDisruptorsI feel it’ll be next to impossible but Richard D James aka Aphex Twin. His musical life is a case study (one of the biggest inspirations behind Radiohead, Steven Wilson, etc among others)
@@RobMooreDisruptors How about the genius himself, Mikael Åkerfeldt!? 🤔😝😀 I would say he fits the bill as a disruptor in terms of going against the grain, and confronting his audience's expectations!
@@RobMooreDisruptorsHi Rob! These 2 interviews are extremely brilliant and fascinating….Steven Wilson….is the n.1 that is known by very few people. Now i’d like you to interview a game changer….a woman (the music business needs more!) Tori Amos.
She is equally prolific as Steven and could give her view on many many subjects. Please take her on! 🙏🏼
Porcupine Tree came to me when I was 15 and it opened an avenue of new musical appreciation. ty steve, gavin and all.
To all independent musicians who still believe in genuine form of art. I Praise you.
SW inspired me on this interview to pick up my guitar and return creating music for whatever reason.
I've lost my sould working on a job I hate just to survive. It's hard times for creative souls era.
Love this comment. It's how I feel. Be true to yourself, and I feel you'll find an audience that recognizes that sincerity. Most artists striving for a "career" don't understand that most people are actually looking for something fresh and genuine. The arts are in a rut right now, trying to copy what's come before to stay "relevant" and I personally think most people are waiting, and will respond to the new.
Someone said to me years ago that you need a profession to fall back on, in order to "finance" your own musical journey and development. It's a hard truth for working class aspiring musicians, creators and performers.
Steven's "cool nerd" quotient is off the charts. Much respect for this man of achievement. Would love to hear Stevens take on other gifted solo artists that lead bands like Bill Nelson and BeBop Deluxe?; Todd Rundgren and Utopia?; etc.
Haha love that. Did you watch the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
Every time I hear Steven talk I learn something new. Thank you Steven for sharing not only your amazing music but also your knowledge. Excellent job has been done by the interviewer!
This man is huge.... I mean, he wrote so diverse stuff like Anestethize, The Watchmaker, Song of I, Personal Shopper... crazy...
love how you included anaesthetise + personal shopper in the same sentence - both so brilliant in their own ways!
You forgot Linton Samuel Dawson!
with indian percussion instrument tabla in Linton Samuel Dawson and 4 chords that made a million and much more... such a diverse and unbelievable music.. and yet this man is so damn humble....and hence this side of music and musicians is very different but great!!!!! ❤
Kind of agree, but also hugely underrated, no? Did you see the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
I could sit here and write a long paragraph on what and why I love Steve Wilson, but I won't bore you. I think he is the most interesting, and thought provoking artist in music. As well as being a true virtuoso guitarist. I'm now waiting for Lee Anderton to interview him on how he learned to play the guitar so well, and his instrument journey. I want to know how he is able to make the guitar sing like no other.
Thank you for tuning in. Did you see our first interview, here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
@@RobMooreDisruptors I watched it the day it was released. Along with every other interview he has done on UA-cam, and around the media. Your two interviews are the best though. A very relaxed atmosphere, with zero awkwardness.
Lee Anderton???
@@niebuhrsongs The Andertons UA-cam channel. Lee Anderton (the owner) has a section called The Captain Meets, where he interviews guitarists, and asks them mainly about their upbringing, and why they picked up a guitar? He has interviewed some of the biggest names in the music industry.
Just love listening to Steve talking about ins and outs of music and creativity....so many of us creatives out there are failing everday, continuing drawing on our energies as much as we can because thats our passion. Talks like this give a lovely perspective on things. Great point about investing yourself into great music or any new music. Many are growers....or better still you grow with the music even if you did start off going 'wtf!' The many wtfs in my experience too, tend to be those moments you later realise required you to grow a bit. Great interview Rob.
Thank you that is very kind. Did you see the first interview here:
ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
Einstein said genius was the ability to stumble from failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm
I'd love to interview Steven Wilson one day to give another perspective on the music industry. I'm currently 17 years old and starting out as a musician, it's hard. But to be fair it's always been hard and it's always been about commerical succes or else you'll fade into the darkness. There are so so so many bands from the 60's and 70's with decent or even amazing music that just didn't make it. Cause even back then commercial success would mean the band could survive. There were still bands around that time that were too experimental and weren't pick up. And today with spotify, the algorithm can learn the genres you like and you can find artists through discover weekly. And of course you can search for them yourself, just type in a genre and maybe a year, and bam there's so many playlists with amazing artists. It's how I found Porcupine Tree, The Pinneapple Thief, Marillion, Transatlantic, Liquid Tension Experiment, Long Distance Calling, Al Stewart, Styx, Starcastle, Anathema, Naxatras, Liquify, Jean-Luc Ponty, Gilgamesh, The Aristocrats, Brand X, Weather Report, Mahavisnu Orchestra, T-SQUARE, Casiopea, and many many more, both obscure and well known artists. So I'd love to sit down with him and just talk about music, bands and albums with him and learn from his experiences.
I am disappointed in a few of Steven Wilson's albums, but I respect his talent so much that I am not running away from him, just excited to see what is next.
very well said
Love Steven Wilson. I'm a year older than him and following his career has helped me keep an interest in new music. Other bands I've followed for decades still put out albums but their creative peak is long gone. Steven still excites & impresses with every new record.
they don't make music like this now
1:31 The fact that Porcupine Tree got dropped after Deadwing (2005) should be a badge of honor for Porcupine Tree, considering where the music industry was in 2005.
Prog rock fan since the early 70’s, only discovered Porcupine Tree a few month’s ago, wow what a discovery the PT music is brilliant, some of the best music ever! Really want to see PT live - come to Leeds sometime soon!😊
Thank you. Did you see the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
Played Leeds Uni years ago on (I think) the Blank Planet tour. And yes they were brilliant. Being a drummer couldn't take my eyes off Gavins drumming 😂
Check out his "Solo"-stuff, too.
It's at times even better.
Steven Wilson is an artist that I'd overlooked and didn't really know about. My son turned me on to Personal Shopper and I went from there. I had no idea the well of knowledge and talent that Steve possesses. He's a great interview and full of wisdom and insight. Top shelf. ❤
I said in your 1st Steven Wilson's interview that it was the BEST Steven Wilson's interview ever. Well....this is at the same level. Thank you so much for it!
That is very kind, thank you
Utterly surreal to hear Steven Wilson bring up Terence Trent Darby! It's like if you were watching a Craig David interview and he suddenly mentioned The Exploited.
That is the randomness of SW. Did you watch the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
I liked his thoughts on how an artist is doomed to make you feel like he/she did in their seminal record, and how he praises artists who, knowing that, try to bring you to new territories. I don't like all of his recent albums but I truly respect his view.
Thank you for tuning in, did you see our first interview? ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
@@RobMooreDisruptors Yes. I also loved it, and that's why (I guess) the algorithm recommended me this second one. Great work!
I completely agree with SW's contention that a listener's 'entry point' to a band's recorded catalogue is a sweet spot that the artist can never really surpass (for that listener). That sweet spot will be a different album for many different people. I have found that the initial exposure to that band's 'sound' makes an emotional impact, particularly if I really like it, and wires my brain a particular way which affects my experience with their other albums.
I feel the same entry spot for In Absentia, Deadwing and the incident
Same
Amen, and thank you. Did you see the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
Well captured. This has been my experience with bands as well…time and again.
My entry point was "To The Bone" and more specifically "Pariah". Then I tried Insurgentes and the first track blew me away. For PT I was introduced with a leant CD of the "Stars Die" compilation, I loved that. Then he leant me Deadwing and I was fascinated by the difference, at first I didn't like it, but now I love it. He'd heard I like Floyd. I think though that his music is consistently good that I am discovering new favourites all time time. Current fave. is Normal live at Tilberg, that whole live set is amazing.
I like Steven Wilson because he is one of the rare artists who manages to surprise me with each album and if he started to always do the same thing with each album, to always redo In Absentia or The Future Bites for example, that would not I would simply not be interested in it at all.
There, I like the fact that Steven released an album like Hand Cannot Erase, then To The Bone then The Future Bites then The Harmony Codex.
With each announcement of the release of a new Steven Wilson album, I always wonder what musical direction he will take and that's what I like about this artist. I realize that the artists I prefer are those who manage to constantly surprise me.
I think Genesis falls into this category of musicians as well, they went from kind of folk rock to prog rock / album rock then to pop rock and progressive pop and mixed all kinds of genres whilst doing so. Phil Collins also switched a lot with his solo albums (at least before Dance Into The Light).
You're interviews with Steven are better than Beato's. That's saying something. Great questions and excellent work keeping him engaged.
I wonder what Steven think about the band Ulver who was at one point his labelmate at Kscope. The band started out as a black metal band who eventually evolved to multiple genres like folk, psychedelic rock, ambient, post-rock...and currently they are primarily a synthpop group.
Listened to "to the bone" the other week - such a great album - love to hear Steven talk - artist speaks without BS
Been a fan of SWs music for 15 years, since FOABP came out. He's being modest. I love everything he does. Great musician
The discussion remind me of bands like Arctic Monkeys that have changed completely their style and i think it has been refreshing for a rock/pop band to try something out of their success formula, but lots of people were just expecting a new AM album just for the nostalgia of what they felt listen to AM the first time.
I discovered Arctic Monkeys during AM, but Tranquility Base? Wow. What an album. I'm not easily blown away by an album, but that one did (and it still does). One of the best albums I've ever heard.
@@leonnehaaijman4709 i listened Arctic Monkeys before AM, so when i first heard tranquility base i didn't knew how to react, i did like some songs but not all the album as a whole... But then i listened to it a few years later and suddenly it became a masterpiece in my ears, maybe because i was already listening to other music instead of the classic indie rock I used to when I was younger.
Steven Wilson is the most important musician of the history. His talent is beyond human comprehension. I saw him four times and the shows are nothing but perfection.
Disribution on so many platforms and to write and share feels so good to me, eventhough Im so minimal as I improvise almost everything I do Steven is absolutely the best. He is always fresh to my ears and at times I rabbit hole jazz artists, but with that said Steven Wilson always said LISTEN TO MUSIC. I listen to music as I did when I was young, checking artists, stats, and who is producing these projects. Very insightful because Steven is he has from experience holds his integrity on what he does ans that is why we get the product he writes ans produces. The world needs to know more about him, truly an artist of our TIMES. Blessings to Steven Wilson.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. Did you watch the first interview, here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
When I first discovered Porcupine Tree I was somewhat disappointed that I had not discovered them earlier and could not understand why i never heard of them. It is now inconceivable that so many people are missing out. Poor souls.
100% agree with this
I stumbled upon this by pure coincidence. One of the best interviews ever. Subscribed right away.
Thank you 🙏🏽
me too and I'm glad i did
Seeing PT live or even just SW is a bucket list thing for me
Best interview I've seen bar none. When you sound like two friends sitting down and discussing your philosophy in music. Thank you Rob
That is very kind thank you. Did you watch the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
Steven Wilson is one of the few that still gives me hope for the music industry.
Excellent interview. Or rather, a conversation between 2 people who share the same passion. Even with a small snot in his nose, Steve can appear extremely nonchalant and intelligent. Huge fan.
Thanks, Steve. I've never listened to anything like Heritage. Stunning album
well said!
Great interview, some amazing topics covered! I think Steven has already done his Greatest Hits tour. The recent PT tour for Closure/Contination consisted of all of these (Blackest Eyes, Anesthetize, Even Less, Muzak, Blank Planet etc.) Fantastic setlist
Another great interview with Steven Rob. Really enjoy the quality of questions that you ask. Not just the typical stuff that many interviewers ask. Also yes, I did see the first interview you did with Steven and it was great as well. Looking forward to more of you with Steven. Seems like he enjoys the discussions with you.
That is very kind, thank you
These topics have been a prevalent focus of my internal conversations for years, and even moreso recently... such an insightful interview! The balancing act of artistic success, and the influences of that success on an artist has always been fascinating to me. Rob asks some truly compelling questions, and Steven is so very 'aware', articulate, and personable with his responses. Loved this!
Thank you; really appreciate that. Did you see our first interview, here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
This is a really interesting conversation and I appreciate that in here Steven is willing to be wrong or to have his perspective changed with good arguments. Regarding the Metallica example I believe the opposite, Metallica has been notoriously chasing popular trends since the black album. They tried "pop metal", they tried to "grunge-efy" their sound when grunge was popular and then they tried nu- metal with no solos when Nu-Metal was at peak popularity. Lulu I think its the outlier and it is a James's passion project, which is great, but the rest of them is just Lars chasing popular trends and relevancy. Marketing wise it 100% worked for them, but the fans were not blinded by the obvious chase for trends. Some people liked them, some not. I wouldn't personally praise it, but i enjoy some of the songs they did during this phase. I would rather choose a band that did a 3rd great album that maybe didnt sound different because the choose to remain themselves and not go trend-chasing
Top job, Rob- you're an intelligent and skilled moderator. Extremely pleased with your chat with Steven; both brilliant. Subscribed and looking forward to seeing more of your work.
Music should be made to what the feeling when you make it is. No matter wht genre it falls Into. It should also be about what you have been through or think about certain things. One word INTEGRITY
All it took for me to become absolutely mesmerized was a song that I accidentally stumbled upon a couple months ago "Arriving somewhere but not here", since then I listen to them every day.
steven, you never disappoint me. I'm a fan of all you do
Love Steven´s creations. Such an amazing inspiration, as a muscian and as a human being, love his philosophy. I just want to listen him talk for hours.
It was a great interview. Did you see the first one we did ??
Steven Wilson won't do the same album twice, but he's done the exact same interview the second time.
I will still watch it though, and I look forward to the third one too, Rob.
Love this interview. I've been a fan for about 30 years, when I first saw No-man supporting friends of mine at the Marquee. Really looking forward to new album. I'm a Metal fan, a Prog fan, but what I've always loved about what tge music Steven appears on is the story telling, which is why I'm not rge greatest fan of the Future Bites. But it looks like the new Album, The Harmony Codex, is back to story telling. I will always be interested in whatever Steven does, and whilst I fully understand the idea of wanting the next In Absentia or The Raven who Refused to Sing, I am eager to hear change and moving into new areas. Steven always does a great interview, even when I agree little with what he is saying (that happened a few times with the last album). Looking forward to the next Steven Wilson installment on this particular channel.
Thank you and I hear you. Did you watch the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
My gateway into the vast world of SW was No-Man's "love lies" since being a huge Japan fan, JBK playing on that record made me pay attention. But In Absentia sealed the deal. The last PT record was fantastic too. Hand That Cannot Erase is also a fave SW solo album.
I've seen many interviews with Steven Wilson before and yet learned a lot of new things here. This is not just a Q&A or an interview, really. Rather, a conversation where we could watch both of you develop, and even discover, new thoughts and ideas.
That means a lot, thank you. Did you see the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
Oh, yes! That one actually made me learn about your channel and become interested in other interviews. Great job.@@RobMooreDisruptors
Music in its pure form should be an expression of the person making it, rather than sitting in a pocket if you like making the same thing over and over, STEVEN WILSON is a bloody GENIUS fullstop,...
Excellent interview, thank you. It will be very interesting to see where commercial music goes in the next few years.
Thank you. Check out the first one
I can say I'm so lucky that I could see and listen to Porcupine tree live on last 2 tours. Got last PT album on vinyl and looking forward to et more. we as fans should not let these great music die, and engage more ppl in to it.
Great interview, thx for heaving Steven for us.
Amen to that and thank you. Did you watch the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
These are my favorite interviews! Exactly those between you and Steven Wilson. Deep thoughtful conversation! I usually don't listen to such long interviews but yours with Steven are simpy enjoyable! Thank you and please keep inviting Steven for such gems in future!
Thank you so much
I love the number of Beatles references in this interview. I have a feeling that Steven started to appreciate them a bit more than earlier. Although this interview slightly overlaps with the Part 1 on this channel, I enjoyed it a lot!
Another fantastic interview.
Steven is a musical genius 💯
Most underrated artist in the world.
Amen to that. Thank you. DId you see the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
@@RobMooreDisruptors Yeah I did Rob. Very rare I'll sit and watch a 2-hour interview from start to finish but I really enjoyed this one. You pushed him on all the things I'd like to push him on if I met him 😂
Being a Steven Wilson fan is like being part of a special club that nobody else knows exists, you'll know exactly what I mean 😀
Love him in either PT and solo. He also surrounds himself with brilliant musicians.
it was epic right?
Thanks for the music Steven,
you keep making it....I'll be there listening
What a great interview! I do want to add, to the conversation about Spotify, algorithms and playlists, that the "Steven Wilson algorithm" that control my Spotify "radio" has made me discover SO many bands, and new bands to the genre, that I would've never found say 20 years ago! To me, Spotify is a music discovery blessing
I'm 30 now, In Absentia was the album that introduced me to Porcupine Tree and been a fan since. Crazy how such a good album was considered a "failure" causing the label drop at the time
Anyone who is new to PT should take a chance to listen to their live releases. Doesn't even need to be THE best live "official" albums or DVD what-not. Just listen to say "Live in Warszawa" for instance. Nice spread out of their early - mid discography so it's a nice window into that era of PT and not too overwhelming for the new listener. If you like - expand to their later work. Usually that's the case isn't it?
This was a fantastic interview. Steven always comes across so well, but he seemed particulalry relaxed and engaged in this dicussion. Hats off to the interviewer for guiding a very enjoyable chat.
Thank you that means a lot. Did you watch the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
@@RobMooreDisruptors I don't think so, will check it out. Thanks!
Another great interview Rob. Nice to have a long-form interview where the subject can breathe and tell a deeper, multi-faceted story, rather than a shallow, bite-sized format.
Speaking of that song, that never gets played anymore live, Rob Moore, could you please find out where he found those lyrics in a very subtle message to his fans? i.e. was there a song, albeit a very puerile song perhaps, that he was thinking of when he wrote some of the lyrics to that song mentioned he felt grubby about?
Thank you. That is really kind. Did you watch the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
Love the sense of humour he shows at the beginning. A great relief, First time I started to like Steven Wilson.
a really excellent and thought-provoking interview. I could never stop thinking about Devin Townsend, who also fitted most of Steven's decriptions of artistic integrety and following ones own passions. They are very much alike in this respect and not coincidentially are among the few artists I by records of without second-guessing.
Mr. Wilson is bloody brilliant.
Steven Wilson is awesome. Not only is he a world class musician, but he also invites other world class musicians to record with him. He is similar to Frank Zappa in that regard - Pretty much everyone in their bands is a multi-instrumentalist. An insane amount of talent in every album.
Well said ,
If Rush made moving pictures again and again we would never have the mighty Grace under Pressure.👌
Don't care for his music or PT, but he sure as hell is second to none remixing classic albums. Jakko and Giles are good, but they can learn a thing or two from Steven Wilson.
I absolutely love Steven Wilson's work, both his solo work and with Porcupine Tree.
@vladtheinhaler8940 nothing against you but this comment is an example that Blackfield is not appreciated enough
me too! Did you watch the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
So far I've listened to Porcupine tree albums up to 2002 and three Blackfield albums. And...the best thing I've heard is the Blackfield album. This is the best art rock album I've heard in several years! how magical the chords are! what are they doing to me!
Another amazing in depth interview Rob, many thanks, you always allow the conversation and themes to expand exponentially. Totally relevant content.
it was epic right?
Strange thing for me was I really liked most of the 'rejected' songs from "The Future Bites", ie the bonus tracks, more than the tracks actually on the album :)
Same here
Eyewitness and Move Like a Fever are fantastic
Of course they were great, however you can't expect all fans to have such a broad musical taste.
I've heard about SW during The Incident and before I already had a very diverse taste, including many bands like Doors, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, Alice In Chains, The human League, early Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, Japan, David Sylvian, Peter Gabriel, David Bowie...
So basically, I dig anything he's putting out there
@@penusliski i don't get the impression he cares about catering to his audience though, i mean he's said over and over that he tries to please himself first and foremost. I doubt he axed the b-sides out of fear people wouldn't "get it", he probably just wanted it to be a succinct length.
It is always amazing to watch a conversation that is so genuine and insightful! Very cool interviewing style :)
I think the path towards sustainability as a musician going forward (and I am speaking only as an observer) is two-fold. First, the Patreon/Bandcamp model Steven mentioned - have a small core of dedicated fans who you engage with on a regular basis and who buy everything you do (or subscribe so that they get it all automatically). Secondly, touring. Touring touring touring. I don't think an AI will ever be able to replicate the feeling of being in a club with a blues player, or in a park listening to folk music, or a dive bar with a punk band. It comes down to what can't be replicated.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. Did you watch the first interview here: ua-cam.com/video/xB1ZDhK2dLM/v-deo.html
I understand Steven denying the genius label and commend it. Some musicians have extreme gifts and talent in certain areas, but ultimately it’s the heart or spirit as he mentions that brings out these timeless moments in music. I feel the idolatry of impressive musicians and or music in general is a slippery slope. It’s all about the sincerity of expression. Wonderful discussion, just subbed!
I'm blown away by the immaturity of the interviewer. You somehow scored an interview with SW and you feel the need to cry to him about a barbie movie?
Wonderful interview, it's like being a fly on the wall to two friends talking candidly.
The song Steven was talking about was Shallow from Deadwing. And no i didn't have to go back and watch the prev interview because it was so good that I remember all of it. I can't than you enough for doing this. Steven never played shallow a lot even on the first tour, if at all. EDIT: Ok it looks too guts got it figured out before the end of the interview.
Steven Willson, a brilliant musician! He brings back the rock from the 80s!
My intro to the world of SW was To The Bone.
I was stunned, why I not listened to his stuff before!
My wife had the Blackfield CD single, but I didn't realise it was SW.
Over last few years I've gone and discovered his back catalogue... I knew of PT but never listened to anything by them.
The fact he doesn't compromise is what him a true artist.
Wish I had a friend like Steven Wilson, can listen to him for hours!
I love the way this guy interviews. He knows so much about context etc. Also love Steve Wilson and PPT
The best music interview I’ve heard in ages. Thank you.
Love this interview, one the best of it's kind! Great questions, beautiful insights and overall a great view into Steven's mind. More of this please!!!
beautiful music he composes!
This interview is excellent and deep. Thanks a lot, Rob! I could listen to SW for hours. I share a lot of his views.
Love the discussion on how do you continue to please the fans while also not remain stagnant and or stay creative and explore boundaries. With the current news of Portnoy rejoining Dream Theater and all of the discussion around that fact and also listening to a lot of Rick Beato and his breakdowns of Bands and what made them great. Has had ne contemplating the same questions. Thinking back at the bands that I admire and have followed throughout the decades or watched fade into the past. I think in my opinion what makes a great band that will have longevity is to obviously have a great lineup of talent and put out great songs, but I think you have to be able to either be able to bring what the band is going through on a personal level out through the music that the fans can relate to or do so by what the culture is going through at that time. Then be able to do so as time goes on and keep up with cultural evolution while also evolving as a band whether it be getting better on one's instrument, trying new approaches in style, maybe incorporating more or maybe less to the overall sound. It reminds me of watching Queensryche's "Building Empires" video when it came out after their success after their Empire tour. They made the point during the interview that the challenge ahead was going to be to still grow and evolve. To not become to comfortable in the success and remain complacent. If one was to listed to Operation Mindcrime, To Empire, then Promise Land, all three are very different but in my opinion great in their own way.
He explained very well the reason I can't get into Blackwater Park, it's a heavy death metal album but with a lot of complexity in the production, which makes this album a little too hard for me to enjoy it slowly, since it's too complexe and overstimulating for me
27:40 talking about bands that created their own musical universe: I've always felt this way to Porcupine Tree.
When somebody would ask me about what kind of music I like listening to, I was like "I really like Porcupine Tree" (what is a complete understatement, just not to seem too fanatic and nerdy) and they were like "Haha, funny name :D What kind of music do they make?" And I'd be like "Yeeeaahh, well .... they sound like Porcupine Tree." "Hu? I don't get it. Anyways ..." and they'd never experience the joy of discovering that niche but sooo unique music.
Even though the Closure/Continuation album has many new twists and sounds in it, I'd aaaalllwaaayys recognize my favourite band behind these songs. You just can't miss their spirit. And yeah, I think that's way cooler than any genre could be. It's like inventing a new colour that nobody knew of before and watching it just shakes your heart ❤
Omg I love them soo much I could keep nerding about them for hours :D 🥲