The World of Neolithic Greece - The First Seafarers, Traders and Farmers of Prehistoric Greece
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- Опубліковано 25 тра 2024
- Before the Minoans, Mycenaeans, and powerful city states such as Athens, Sparta, Corinth and Argos, there were the many prehistoric peoples who occupied the land that we today know as Greece. In this video, we'll take a look at the inhabitants of this land in the days well before recorded history as well as some of their remarkable achievements.
Sources and Suggested Reading:
Ancient Greece: From Prehistory to Hellenistic Times - Thomas R. Martin
The Oxford Handbook of Neolithic Europe - Ed. Chris Fowler, Jan Harding and Daniela Hofmann
National Archaeology Museum (Athens) - Ed. Maria Lagogianni-Georgakarakos
Archaeological Museum of Tegea - Anna Vasiliki Karapanagiotou
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To anyone who has been to Greece, and especially to those who have not, the little bit of land available to farm, produces the absolute most delicious fruits and vegetables you've ever eaten.
Agreed! I was just there and can confirm this! Thanks for watching!
Robert Sepehr
You've obviously never been to Georgia
@@mariusmelerski5136 I live in Georgia, and that's a local myth, like how locals in Traverse City, MI think they have the best fudge.
@@KAZVorpalyou think I mean Georgia the state I'm talking about Sakartvelos aka Georgia the country
A year ago I attended a six-month online course at the Kapodistrian University of Athens on this subject. What is stated in the video is absolutely correct and matches 100% with what I was taught in university.
I subscribed to your channel.
Thank you very much for the effort you make and the knowledge you share. I am 72 years old and I am very interested in prehistory. Studying and learning is how I keep my mind and soul alert.
(sorry for my english, I use machine translation)
But you didn't teach us anything you learned?
ευχαριστώ! Glad you liked the video. I will have more on the history of the Greek world coming soon, thank you for watching!
@@HistorywithCyThe Alsótatárlaka ( Romanian: Tărtăria ) tablets are three tablets ( ca. 5500 BCE - 5300 BCE ), reportedly discovered in 1961 at a Neolithic site in the village of Tărtăria ( Hungarian: Alsótatárlaka ), in Erdély ( Transylvania ), Alba ( white ) County, Romania. - wiki
On the basis of radiocarbon-dating, Hans E. Suess, an American chemist, established the age as 7500 - 7000 years, in other words 5500 - 5000 years BCE. Since 1966, there is a more accurate method, dendrochronology, which utilizes tree-rings in dating, according to which one has to add 700 years to every tree-ring for each find, which is older than 3000 years. According to this method, our tablets are 8200 - 7700 years old ( i.e. 6200 BCE - 5700 BCE ), the product of an already developed system of writing. - The Mystery Of Tatárlaka ( Tărtăria ) Part 5. By Klára Friedrich
Kornél Bakay, in his work entitled: "Őstörténetünk Régészeti Forrásai" ( Archeological Sources Of Our Ancient History, Published: Miskolci Bölcsész Egyesület 1997 ) gives an overview of the time-frame of cultural history of Europe and Asia from 10,000 BCE to the beginning of our era. He dates the finds of Tordos and Tatárlaka to 8000 BCE - 6000 BCE. - The Mystery Of Tatárlaka ( Tărtăria ) Part 2. By Klára Friedrich
Based on the account of their discovery which associates the tablets with the Tordos-Vinča culture ( 5700 BCE - 4500 BCE or 5300 BCE - 4700 / 4500 BCE ) and on indirect radiocarbon evidence, some scientists propose that the tablets date to around 5500 BCE - 5300 BCE, predating ( ca. 2000 years ) Mesopotamian pictographic proto-writing. - wiki
The Tordos ( Erdély / Transylvania ) Neolithic settlement was first explored by Zsófia Torma ( 1832 - 1899 ), the first Hungarian archaeologist, in 1875. In 1908, a similar cache was found during excavations directed by Serbian archeologist Miloje Vasić ( 1869 - 1956 ) in Vinča. - wiki
Baroness Zsofia Torma excavation near Tordos ( present Turdaș, Romania ) she has found some 11,000 articfacts about 7,000 years old several of them wearing ROVÁS ( Székely-Magyar / Szekler-Hungarian ) or runic signs. They can be seen in the History of Transylvania Museum in Kolozsvár ( Romanian: Cluj ). - Comparisons Between Sign-Systems In The Carpathian Basin And The Bosnian Pyramids By Klára Friedrich
Hungarians in Romania are the largest Hungarian community living beyond the borders of the state of Hungary. A century ago, a Hungarian-speaking population of more than 1.6 million - i.e. 32 per cent of the total population - lived in historic Transylvania and other areas annexed to Romania after WWI ( together, these areas have since then been known as Transylvania ). - Office For The European Representation Of Hungarian National Communities
"… it is quite possible that the Sumerians came from the Carpathian Basin and the Balkans in a similar manner. The linguistic parallels cited by Mr. Botos are impressive. The Tatárlaki Táblák ( Tărtăria Tablets ) have sadly been ignored by archeologists in the West." - John E. Dayton, London University Institute Of Archeology
According to our present knowledge, the ancient inhabitants of the Carpathian Basin were the inventors of writing - concludes Géza Radics and, according to the archaeological data, he is absolutely right. - The Mystery Of Tatárlaka ( Tărtăria ) Part 3. By Klára Friedrich
Neolithic is one of the most interesting periods of human history (technically prehistory, but you know what I meant).
Vast and fundamental changes to human society took place during that time.
Thank you for covering this, Cy!
The Purple Dawn - Kronos - then Zeus reigned supreme. Polar Configuration. Clash of the Titans. 3000 B.C.E - Greeks wiped out by "Great" Flood.... most interesting indeed!
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P.S. Cy didn't cover any of it!
Thanks to the discovery of the sophisticated sculptures of the Göbekli Tepe in the Levant, people have started to debate the beginning of civilization was the neolithic age rather than the bronze age. And I agree with them since the definition of "civilization" means culturalization and urbanisation.
@JustGrowingUp84 Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! I'm relatively new to the subject as my expertise is more focused on the ancient Near East but I'm really enjoying researching more about Neolithic Europe. I hope to one day go into more depth and cover other regions of the continent. Thanks for watching, really appreciate it!
@@HistorywithCyI wonder how cooperative those villages were, or if there was a lot of infighting and pecking order rivalry. Your description of roads and town centers sparked my imagination big time.
Learning those things using Neolithic archeological evidence seems impossible, but given human nature, the social dynamics at play in those early settlements as humanity developed must have been very fascinating. Were I to hazard a guess, it would be several leaders at the top of those societies bullied others to get along, with perhaps rival community heads posturing against each other and using squabbles to gain advantage.
It's not impossible to imagine an exceptionally cooperative community forming as they braved the dangers of the day, but knowing how often things work now, it sadly seems unlikely. A fun subject to ponder though.
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Thank you for making THE BEST history content ANYWHERE.
Much love. ❤
Thanks so much for the kind words and support, really appreciate it! Lot's more on the way, thanks for always tuning in, means a lot!
Purple Dawn Polar Configuration The Black Sun Kronos 🙏
There is a small museum in the Athens airport that features a lot of Neolithic period discoveries (and other objects from various periods of Greek history) from archaeological excavations near the Athens airport.
Oh I missed that one. But one thing I love about Greece is that nearly every town I visited with over 100 people had an archaeological museum. It might have been two small rooms in an old house, but it was there! I was really impressed by this and can't wait to visit more towns and cities of Greece to discover more. Thanks for watching!
@@HistorywithCycould you do the city states like Opone and the macrobians or maybe even the Neolithic back to Africa migration of the natufian who split in two in Egypt with one going south to what is modern day Somalia and the other continuing west to what is now Morroco
@@HistorywithCy and imagine how many artifacts are stolen and scattered around the world.
Yes, that is an excellent little museum.
The same problem as always: You try to build something in Greece, and you have to stop, because some ancient building is found underneath...
Neolithic Greece is such an interesting topic! The sophistication of Copper,Bonze, and Iron Age cultures is astounding in and of itself; but, the Neolithic origins of those cultures and how they came about among Stone Age people is absolutely captivating.
Thanks! I hope to do more on the Neolithic period and European prehistory for the rest of Europe sometime in the future. Thanks for watching, really appreciate it!
Again. One of the best channels on YT. Non-biased and passionate. Love and logic; emotion and empiricism. Too rad.
your ability to make complex topics simple is a true gift!
Love your work and how you cover topics that haven’t been worked to death! I learn so much from you
Thanks, glad you find these videos useful. More on the way, stay tuned and thanks for watching!
Yes! I'm so excited for an episode about Greece from this time period! Thank you!! 🙏
Hope you enjoyed it and thanks for watching!
Thank you Cy for having make this video about archaic "Greece" because it's a topic that really intrigues me. Especially the later Chalcolithic fase that developed in the neighboring Balkans and the enigmatic Cucuteni Tripillian culture. I m sure you'll bring us many information's and give us - as usual - much to think and learn about . I m Happy-happy you started from the very beginnings of their evolution.
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I would like to visit Greece one day. There's so much interesting history and stunning geography there. Thank you for another excellent video!
God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
Thanks, appreciate the kind words and glad you found this interesting. Same to you!
And with you, friend🙂
Great video, thank you. As a Greek, I find it fascinating that some of my very distant ancestors might have been among the earliest farmers in Europe.
They called that statue "The Thinker" because you can't have a display in a museum called "The Wanker".
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Awesome! Looking forward to more Greek content!
For sure buddy, but I could say the same... I'm always looking forward to watching more content from the Wanax of Greek history!
It's always a good time when I see you've uploaded a new video. I always learn new things with you and I thank you for it!
Thanks, glad you've been enjoying these. More on the way and thanks for watching!
Merci à toi pour ce faire!
If you're ever in Crete, do yourself the favor of walking through the neolithic ruins. It is surreal and awe-inspiring.
You said "thirteen hundred years ago" for the obsidian, when you must have meant thirteen thousand.
Yes, I misspoke. Thanks for catching that!
Nah come on, you’ve never heard of Byzantine man caves? They had the first ppv in history, getting all the Hippodrome races for a solidus/year
Yooooo I'm so behind on Cy videos but seeing this just got me so hyped to start catching up again! You've been dropping some really cool stuff lately (just based on the video titles lol) I can't to watch all of them keep it up man
Thanks man! Yeah there's A LOT more coming due to some end of the year trips I've been taking... a lot on Greece, Egypt, eastern Mediterranean lined up for end of this year, beginning of next. Stay tuned and thanks for watching!
Thanks always for the great content!
My pleasure, thanks for watching!
History with Cy! Made my night after work.
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Great video, wonder if you considered talking about Lerna and the House of Tiles for the Early Bronze Age or if you think it deserves a video for itself
Oh I visited the site and have some footage on it! Sure, I think I can do a quick one on it. Thanks for the suggestion!
Great idea🙂
This was very interesting, thanks!
Great episode Cy. Always love hearing about *ancient* ancient history!
My pleasure, hope to cover more regions during the Neolithic period as I study them more. Thanks again for tuning in, really appreciate it!
Amazing work!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
I can't remember the source, but there appears to be indications that the transition to agriculture initially took place in the region of Northern Syria amd Southern Turkiye - on the hill feet near the complexes like Göbekli Tepe. I hope you'll make an equally lovely video when you find sufficient sources!
Love how much the understanding of the transition into agriculturalism has changed since I was a child - I'm old, so a lot had happened! When I was a child my science fiction dream was having a portable telly - and now I'm watching this on my phone! Dreams do come true! 😄
Correct, by the people we call the Natufians.
@@IStevenSeagal No, not the Natufians. The Natufians were semi-nomadic
@@jakobraahauge7299 Call them gypsies for all I care. The Natufians inhabitet that whole area and they're the first recorded neolithic culture. So whom else is there.
@@IStevenSeagal Well, that's the interesting part - isn't it... that was kinda the point
Love the content, video, and channel.
Thank you, appreciate the kind words and thanks for watching!
Thank you bro, I am just right now doing the seminary work about neolithic Anatolia and Greece. This video help a lot.
Nice, that sounds awesome! I'm hoping to visit some of the museums and historical sites in Turkey in the next few years and do some content on that. Thanks for watching and good luck with your studies!
@@HistorywithCy that would be cool and thank you very much!
Excellent work here
Thank you, appreciate it!
Great presentation. Merci beaucoup.
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Excellent Thanks.
My pleasure, thanks for watching!
Fun fact: Sesklo had more people living in it 7000 years ago than it does today.
I love your content, best regards❤
Thanks, I love yours as well. I was actually going to leave for Egypt today but given the current situation next door I had to postpone my trip. Your videos are the next best thing to being there!
There's a theory I find interesting: the Pelasgians descended from Neolithic Greek peoples. The Neolithic peoples were probably not Indo-European speaking and Pelasgians might not have been either.
The theory that the Yamnayas are the Indo-Europeans is falling apart, so the one does not exclude the other. For the rest, you only have to read what the ancients wrote about the past.
Ah @WanaxTv did a video on the Pelasgians not too long ago, I think you'll find it interesting. Thanks for watching!
as a greek myself this is hugely interesting
Thanks, glad you enjoyed this and lots more Greek-related history on the way!
Interesting topic right here
Thanks, hope you enjoy it!
Thank you again
Thank you too!
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Haha thanks! Seen the Ahsoka finale yet? Thoughts?
I loved it. dont wanna give anything away. I will say Dave Filoni is an excellent padawan to Master George Lucas. they only average like 8 episodes for a "season" at Disney. You have them beat in that department too!
Yeah Dave is great because he really respects Lucas and his vision, unlike... well, I'm not going to get into that here but you probably know a couple people I might be referring to lol). I saw the finale... I won't give anything away here but that last scene with Baylan... WOW!
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Thank you, I love all my viewers! Appreciate your support and thanks for watching!
At 2:52 you say 1300 years ago. That's 700 AD. Did you means 13.000? Though on the image it says 10k-7k years ago. Could you clarify, please?
Hi. I misspoke, I meant to say 13 THOUSAND, not hundred. Thanks for catching that.
Professor Mc Alister 1927 Dublin University describes Neolithic framers as Dolichocephaly long narrow heads and long faced. there are depictions of Apollo in the delphi Museum of such faces.
Last time I was this early the Achaeans hadn't sacrificed Iphigenia yet.
haha nice...thanks for watching!
Curious if there are any investiagtions of the old shorelines and settlements there of 20-7k years B.C., that now, I suppose, mostly under the water.
Hi! I know that there are but I haven't studied them. It's an interesting topic though. In the next video on the Bronze Age Cycladic culture I'm going to mention the island of Saliagos which back then was actually joined with what are today the islands of Paros and Antiparos but today is out in the Aegean by itself. I'm sure a lot of what was once there is now underwater. Thanks for watching!
Great video, Cy. I hope you're planning on a video about the Early and Middle Helladic period, before the Mycenaeans, as I've come to a dead end regarding the entry of Greek-speaking peoples into southern Greece. If Proto-Greek was spoken in Epirus and Western Macedonia ca. 2900 BCE and Mycenaean Greek was spoken in Central Greece and the Peloponnese ca. 1650 BCE, when did the necessary southward expansion occur, and which phases of the Helladic period correspond to this shift from pre-Greek to Greek populations? Anyway, you've got a brilliant channel, carry on!
Hi, thanks for the feedback and kind words, really appreciate them. I'll definitely look into it. I'm not an expert on these topics so definitely want to research a lot more before I put something out, but I did visit a few Helladic sites a couple of weeks ago including Lerna and my interest in the period has increased tremendously, so perhaps a shorter video like this one may be in the works. Thanks for the suggestion, really appreciate it!
@@HistorywithCy there is no evidence about these dates only theories that nobody can prove.
By that date we already have Mycenaean anactorial buildings so you can understand yourself that the notion that "the Greeks arrived to southern Greece at 1650 bc" is absurd...
The only way you’ll ever have any answers to your questions will be through (non-mainstream / politically weaponised) Serb / Slavic history, ethnology, etymology / linguistics, cults, archeology, etc...
Lepenski Vir & Vinča are your starting points. Work your way up from there.
There wasn't any southward expansion my dear friend. Human is living in different parts of the globe like forever. Also remember that proper life conditions, begin from the places where life is easier to be developed. And the Mediterranean area allowed the development of civilization much earlier than in the Central of Northern Europe due to the last Glacier Period. Last but not least, there aren't pro-Greeks or...post-Greeks. There were Proto-Greeks and they developed language thousands of years before their first "alphabet" appeared (Linear-A aka Γραμμική Α). I can go on forever but it will take eons. Research and study more!
7:59 hey, I've been there! This is close to where my village is
Oh that's such a beautiful area! I love the Peloponnese! Thanks for watching!
I sometimes wish I could live like our ancestors did. Sure it has a lot of cons compared to the present, but I'd love to see the night sky as they did, and live a simple life based on needs, not wants.
ΗUG FROM GREECE sis . same here 🏛🏛🏦
0:16 "the thinker"?
what did they think he was doing with his other hand?
some big equipment there
i think i know what he's thinking about
haha I don't want to know what he's thinking about... thanks for watching!
The "Thinker" Yeah, looks like he's thinkin' about someone pretty hard there.
I am just curious how the conclusion about women pioniring role in agriculture has been drawn?
Hi, that's a great question. I'll see if I can find a specific answer that I can quote but my understanding is its because archaeologists found the same amount of bones from large game animals at some of these early agricultural settlements as at earlier periods, and from this many concluded that if the men were still providing the same amount of meat, the women must have been involved in farming. Another is evidence of repetitive stress injuries that have been found on the remains of Neolithic women from the time (on arms, backs, etc) that may suggest the performance of repetitive tasks such as tilling fields or grinding grain. Also, anthropologists have studied primitive societies in our own time such as in the Amazon and parts of central Africa where the women are still more involved with agriculture while the men hunt and fish. Again don't quote me on this but that's my understanding, hope this helps. Thanks for watching, really appreciate it!
nice video. more like this. can u talk about sea peoples a little bit xd
Thanks... end of this year or early next there will be a big Late Bronze Age Collapse / Sea Peoples video. Stay tuned and thanks for watching!
@@HistorywithCy ah i can imagine that. but what about a 10min video just trying to explain who were these sea peoples xd u could use it as promotion for ur big video xd
Actually I do have a 10 minute video on the Sea Peoples from a few years ago. I also wrote the script for the recent Kings and Generals video on them that came out a couple of weeks ago so those should tide you over until I put out another one on the subject. Thanks for your interest!
As far as i know, Egyptians used to call sea people the civilization we know today as Minoans.
@@lamda4738 yeah no xd
@History with Cy: slight mistake @2:48. You say 1300 years ago when you mean to say 13000...
Yes, slip of the tongue on my part...thanks for catching that and watching!
2:48 Shouldn't that be 13 thousand instead of hundred years ago?
The prehistorical arithmetic police at your service. :)
Duh! I misspoke... yes, 13 THOUSAND, not hundred. Thanks for catching that!
I am curious about the role that domesticated dogs played in this development towards the bronze age. If you have dogs you need less people to herd animals. They would give a significant boost to productivity.
That's a great and very interesting question. I didn't come across anything about it with regard to Greece while researching for this video, but I know that they did play a part in other Neolithic and even earlier societies in Europe. One day I'll do a deep dive in the more European prehistory and will try to look into this. Thanks for the suggestion and for watching!
2:45 did you mean 13,000? The date below says "10,000 bc.
Yes, I misspoke. Thanks for catching that and for watching!
Good video. However, I understand that archeogenetics have all but confirmed that the Neolithic revolution came to Greece (and Europe more generally) through mass migration of Anatolian Farmers / Early European Farmers originating in Anatolia. They were subsequently replaced by Indo Europeans, at least in paternal lineages, but the vast majority of Europeans today have at least some and sometimes a lot of EEF genes. The closest population to direct descendants is Sardinia
Interesting, that's a good point. I need to read more about that as I want to learn more about Neolithic Europe in general. Any studies that you recommend? Thanks! Also thanks for watching, appreciate it!
@@HistorywithCynot a genetics expert by any means. Razib Khan (geneticist) has written extensively on this - he has a blog and opens up his older posts to the public. Tom Rowsell (Survive the Jive) also tackled a lot of genetics on his UA-cam channel, as does the author Dan Davis, who specifically covers the transition of Neolithic to Bronze Age.
Ah ok, I know of Rezib Khan, I think I saw an interview with him on Study of Antiquity if I'm not mistaken. I've heard of Survive the Jive but never seen any of that channel's videos so I'll take a look when I get the chance. Dan Davis History I know, great channel, love his stuff!
@@HistorywithCy Razib Khan’s written material is well cited and provides a lot of research. Good resource!
@@qboxer Thanks for the info, appreciate it!
0:12 The Coomer of Corinth 🤭😆
Lol I was thinking more Sloth from the goonies.
3:35 or they lived a semi aquatic lifestyle similar to present seaotters and swam to the island by themselves...
These people were about 5000BC and 5000 years before them Gobekli Tepi was built. Astounding.
Mind boggling to think about that time span, when you think about the past 5,000 years.
The Greeks are some of the nearest or closest relatives and offshoots, substitutes, or placeholders of the early Anatolian Famere them as well as Persians, Italians, Spaniards, And Portuguese yeah.
Thanks for watching, appreciate it!
Sardinians are the closest genetic population to anatolian and early european farmers.
Persians are not decsended from Anatolian farmers. they're descended from Zagros mountain farmers. different people
@@RichardEdwards40I believe that they have some descent from EEF, but obviously loads from Zagros farmers and then later Indo Europeans, combined with some Middle Eastern lineages
The Egyptian delta was cultivated long before Mesopotamia, as early as 12 to 10 thousand B.C. This would be the origin of agriculture in the Eastern Mediterranean.
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I urge everyone to read Harald Haarmann's work on this. It's absolutely fascinating how much of what later became Classical Greece actually has its roots in this period.
So basically, these are the Greeks in their neolithic stage of development
True that !
You said that the oldest piece of obsidian found in the cave was from 13 hundred years ago. Did you mean 13 thousand?
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According to newer studies made all over the world, ancient hunter gatherers had an equal mix of men and women hunting, so it were not only men who hunted, gender based work roles came later.
Quite obviously, not everyone in the neolithic was built like Raquel Welch. Obesity was not only known, but admired as the preferred model.
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Sometimes when i look at artifacts, like the mask one in the beginning, i wonder if theyre actually mistakes, like the person who made them was training...and just didnt do a good job or hasnt learned proper techniques yet lol. Or if they were just made by children. It seems silly to us for some strange reason on why they would waste time doing it for non important reasons, but...we literally do the same things today. We make clay creations for our kids and allow them to make them daily. And its not exactly hard to bake clay, so...why not is what i say. It would be neat to find out that mask was made by a kid trying to learn how to combine all the features of a face into artform, but still had some time to go to do it where it looks right, and not crooked. It would be neat to find out many of the non important things we do today has been carried on for such a long time. Like making simple drawings of faces , or in this case, etches. Using clay to make little figurines just for fun. I would love to hear that.
Wheres the dragón houses
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2:40 1300 years ago or 13,000?
I am always bothered by UA-cam videos that don't show the proper sea levels during the Ice Ages. The Aegean Sea is shallow in general and most if it was dry land during the Ice Ages.
Shallow? No. Many of the Cyclades and other islands were connected during the last glacial maximum, but there were deep channels between. We actually have a very good idea of the configuration during the last Ice Age.
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2:48 "1300 years ago" is 700 AD, way after the stone age.
Yeah it was a slip of the tongue on my part... others caught it too. Thanks for letting me know!
Yeah the "thinker"... For sure
That's what it's called in the museum... the "Thinker of Karditsa," the largest Neolithic figurine discovered in Greece.
Did you mean 13 thousand?
Why isn't there a good video out there about the pre-flood civilizations of the Cyclades plateau? Yes, it was a land mass, or island, during the ice age up until the sea level rose in the Mediterranean Sea. Greece has been studying the area for a long while now, but I never see anything about it outside Greece. Are people too terrified that someone might call it.... "Atlantis" ? forbid that would happen.
Have you even looked? Because I just did a search of "Cyclades plateau" and found several videos about the subject. In fact, this very channel has done one. Are you saying that none of them are any good?
0:12 I guess don`t take a genius to figure what the Thinker had been thinking about
World first cultures Lepenski vir, Starcevo, Vinca culture today Serbia.
World first industrial revolution ca. 6000 BC. Bronze metallurgy. (BBC History news March 2010)
Gordon Childe-The Danube in Prehistory, Jacque Pirenne-Agriculture at Danube
Farming start about 6000 BC. Vinca First Calendar start to count years at 5508 BC. Farming wouldn’t be possible without knowledge of calendar. Both development started and developed together.
Harald Harman about first cyrillic writings in Vinca culture in 5500 BC so 2000 years before any writings anywhere else on the world.
Vinca Iron production 1400 BC.
In today English language there is more than 2000 same or similar Serbian words.
Names of the Balkan tribes: Pelasgians, Mycenaeans, Etruscan, Wendi, Illiyrians, Dardanians (Troy is here ,not in Turkey Homer wrote sea is freezing in the winter-Panonian sea), Moesians, Dacians, Tracians, Rasci, Celts, Scythians, Sarmatians, Arians, Sea People, Peleset, Philistines, Hittites, Bhrygians, Etruscan. Tribes spread in all directions all over Europe and Asia …….
Wild Greeks arived ~ 1000 BC from Egipt, Hungarian from Asia and Bulgariens from Asia they found culture on the Balkans, writings and language and they mixed with domestic people. 18 Roman emperors were born in Serbia because of Etruscan connection.
I suspect that it was common knowledge among hunters and gatherers what happens when you bury a seed.
Especially gatherers
Not really. Farming almost certainly did not spread by trading, but rather by mass migration
casek6930 Although the time is takes for a seed to sprout is a few weeks, the time it takes for a plant to become edible and useable is way longer, so it is possible that hunter-gatherers didn't know that seeds become edible plants.
Thanks buddy!
This was a great video, however i do find it a little jarring how you pause every couple of words even when there isnt a comma
Hi, thanks for the feedback... yeah several times in the past I've been told that I speak too fast, so I tried to slow it down a bit. This is something I need to work on. Will do my best to find a better balance in future videos. Thanks for watching!
Thanks!
Hey man, wasn't necessary but thanks, appreciate the support! I'm just thrilled you keep tuning in for these, that to me is more than enough. Thanks for the continued support over the years!
@@HistorywithCy I've watched so many of your videos for so long that I was frankly becoming a little embarrassed I never threw anything into the kitty. It's not much, but I hope it helps a little.
@@TheRedneckPreppy Thanks again... but honestly no need in future, tuning every time like you do is more than enough!
what a great Cyrprise!!
The blade has to 13k not 1300 years
Enough about the history, Cy, where's the WINE! Oops, sorry, gut reaction.
They do have great wine there! Thanks for watching!
With the placement of the other hand i dont think that dude was thinking
This guys info is very much out of date. It seems he didn't read any research paper or book written in the past twenty years before making this video. Numerous genetic studies have proven definitively that farming came to Greece and Europe from people migrating from Anatolia and these people completely replaced the pre-Neolithic hunter-gatherers. There was no independent domestication of crops or animals. It happened in one location and was spread by migration because their crops and animals gave them a huge advantage and allowed their numbers to grow rapidly.
Neolithic maritime trading 😮
Yeah pretty amazing isn't it? Thanks for watching!
It's really absolute speculation for you to characterize the development of agriculture as led by women. That is a theory and should be presented as so.
“Agriculture came from Mesopotamia and Egypt”
First, I think they’ve established that the earliest species of domesticated plants and animals in Egypt came from Mesopotamia
And secondly,
I think the people of the Gobekli Tepe region in Anatolia would like to have a word about that.
Otherwise a great video. Interesting and informative.
Yep the Natufians in the Levant started that, not the Iraqis or Egyptians. And he also glossed over the very first empire in history called Ebla which was the second oldest of the bronze age civilizations.
The beginnings of agriculture must have developed many times over tens of thousands of years independently in various places but most of the early experiments were likely abandoned quickly but some must have survived. We just don't have archeological evidence for those, yet. Claiming that there is a one definite place where agriculture was started is way too simplistic way of looking at things.
Zagros Mountains too was a early domestication site, contemporary to the early sites in the fertile crescent including Anatolia.
@@kpaasial There are atleast 10 independent centers of domestication worldwide.
Eastern US, Mexico, Chile, Sub Saharan Africa, Fertile Crescent to Zagros Mtns, Indus Valley, North China, Papua New Guinea.
Read Against the Grain by James C Scott. Very interesting.
At 2.50 "the oldest artifact was dated to 1300 years ago" seriously, the middle ages.... centuries after Classical Greece ?
Hi! That was a misspeak, slip of the tongue on my part... thanks!
4:35 Corn comes from america and was never been grown in the neolithic eastern med.
Hi. I'm not sure if it is corn or some other crop. I just used it as some b-roll of a farm and the early stages of crop growth. Thanks.
It´s defininitly young corn @@HistorywithCy
Corn is also a word that means “cereal”
Until Around 10000 BC there should have been other mesopotamic languages spoken in Greece, since the Aryan invasion wasn't there yet
Looking at that clay head, the ancient people of Greece must have been descendants of the orcs of Mordor.
Haha my first thoughts seeing it was it was Sloth from the Goonies. Thanks for watching!
What you listed/showed as a loom is the poorest excuse for a loom I have yet seen. I don't believe it is a loom for textiles. It might be a loom for some other process where its deficiencies for textiles are not a problem.
Hi. I just report what I see and read. I have the photo of the respective plaque from the National Archaeological Museum in Athens where it's written: “Reconstruction of a loom with weights (whorls, weight fragments) holding straight the warp threads. Depending on the textile to weave, they chose the size, weight and shape of loom weights." You can discuss it with the curator there. Thanks!
@@HistorywithCy Good point. I'm sorry my words made it seem I was accusing you. I didn't mean to do that. I am tired of curators and museums getting it wrong, and usually will not correct it because they have to admit they are wrong.
No worries, I understand. Thanks for watching, appreciate it!
This makes sense. 7,000 BCE is the era when the Black Sea connected to the Mediterranean, opening up Europe to the sea faring peoples of the Caucasus mountains area. The origen of the Greek people.
I'm pretty sure they are still connected and I don't think that where Greeks came from.
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