The Debate on Racism and Segregation: Jim Brown and Lester Maddox | The Dick Cavett Show

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 22 жов 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 56

  • @natemarx4999
    @natemarx4999 Рік тому +19

    Rest in peace Jim Brown. A true iconic figure.

    • @ZackFrisbee
      @ZackFrisbee 3 місяці тому

      RIP Governor Maddox, if only we listened to his warnings

  • @srami004
    @srami004 Рік тому +5

    One helluva discussion. If only more shows would do the same

    • @ZackFrisbee
      @ZackFrisbee 3 місяці тому

      Well they can’t anymore because people realized what a disaster integration is…

  • @JJMcCullough
    @JJMcCullough Рік тому +12

    The governor is such a weird character from another era.

    • @natemarx4999
      @natemarx4999 Рік тому +1

      Splendid observation.

    • @shannarobinson7550
      @shannarobinson7550 Рік тому +4

      The governor is the father/grandfather of some of your current politicians. He is extraordinarily current, not from “another era.”

    • @JJMcCullough
      @JJMcCullough Рік тому

      @@shannarobinson7550 no one is saying the sort of things that he saying anymore

    • @NuXta
      @NuXta Рік тому +3

      @@JJMcCullough Oh yes they are.

    • @spode8520
      @spode8520 Рік тому

      Hi JJ, nice to see you here!

  • @majorfeelgoodrecords2740
    @majorfeelgoodrecords2740 11 місяців тому +2

    I’m not from USA. This was very interesting 🎼🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @dkroll92
    @dkroll92 8 місяців тому +1

    this episode inspired the Randy Newman song "Rednecks"

  • @mcgoo721
    @mcgoo721 Рік тому +2

    The generation with the largest population in the states was raised and taught by people just like him.

    • @ZackFrisbee
      @ZackFrisbee 3 місяці тому

      The baby boomer generation are the most fanatically “anti racist” generation in history, all because of ✡️✡️ propaganda

  • @ljre3397
    @ljre3397 Рік тому +3

    Danger Will Robinson!

  • @cedricpeabody265
    @cedricpeabody265 8 місяців тому +1

    Jim Browns self control was amazing.

    • @ZackFrisbee
      @ZackFrisbee 3 місяці тому

      Yeah the women that accused him of grape don’t say so…

  • @jamesmack3314
    @jamesmack3314 Рік тому +3

    Nice beard Cavett….

  • @ZackFrisbee
    @ZackFrisbee 3 місяці тому

    Why is he talking to a piece of antiquated farm equipment? 😝

  • @rodzalez3549
    @rodzalez3549 Рік тому

    Great show, great discussion… wish they had shows like this. The only one I can say is almost like this is real time with bill Maher but he talks too much

    • @scottbivins4758
      @scottbivins4758 4 місяці тому

      Yes he does talk too much and he believes all his liberal ideas are better than some conservative ideas. And that's definitely not the case I don't see why we just can't have a mix of both ideas in the government so the majority of us can somewhat get along. Because obviously not all conservative ideas are good but not all liberal ideas a good either and we are seeing that right now in real time

  • @txryder79
    @txryder79 8 місяців тому +4

    I got to tell ya...The governor makes a WHOLE lot more logical sense.

    • @enbym1793
      @enbym1793 7 місяців тому

      Do tell. Where’s the logic in racism? It’s a completely unfounded ideology.

    • @scottbivins4758
      @scottbivins4758 4 місяці тому

      ​@@enbym1793he isn't a racist. He's not for enforcing integration doesn't mean he's against it he wants the people of his state to choose and he let them choose. Forced segregation is bad and forced integration is just as bad. Did you not hear what he said? It's not a racist stance to take it just means that you would truly for freedom and you won't the people in your state to be the ones to make that decision. You don't get elected to be Governor to enforce your ideas or what you want you get elected to do what the citizens of your state want. And if that is bad then you are not for freedom.

    • @enbym1793
      @enbym1793 4 місяці тому

      @@scottbivins4758 He is a racist, in that he believes there are genuine distinct races in the human species. Race, as a concept, is a total fiction. He clearly says that he not only opposes integration, but he opposes miscegenation.
      There is no freedom in institutionalizing the myth of race.
      And by the way, your side lost the war.

  • @DrCrabfingers
    @DrCrabfingers Рік тому +2

    Racism exists everywhere..white on white, white on black. black on white, black on black. People can try to justify their prejudice....but it is simple prejudice. The influence on culture by immigrants is an phenomenon....skin colour or no skin colour....immigration affects culture. Fact. These are valid talking points. If you don't want the influence of another culture upon your own...that doesn't make you a racist as you may adore the culture of the the people that are changing the culture of your country by their immigration, but simply see that inclusion of culture into the culture of your homeland as far too affecting in National Identity. For example I don't hate Somalis...but if Somalis immigrated into my country and wanted to have road signs written in Somali, wanted menus written in Somali....it is too much of an invasion into the National Identity of this nation....it doesn't make me a racist to fight against that....

    • @jamesmack3314
      @jamesmack3314 Рік тому +1

      I agree with much of what you say. I think the Spanish language influence has become at times overwhelming, especially in places like California where I live, and if you go to Miami for example you don’t even realize you’re in an English speaking country at times..I think it just becomes too much when so many immigrants of one race set up shop but don’t truly assimilate and want everything similar to what they had at home especially the language. It isn’t like the old days where you would want to learn English now there’s not as much incentive because of the sheer numbers make it unnecessary -I know a lot of Spanish-speaking people who literally have no intention of even trying to learn English and now we have everything catering to them as you can see in the drivers license test, voting ,and recordings when you call companies so we have made it too easy in many respects

    • @enbym1793
      @enbym1793 Рік тому

      It’s only racist if it props up the myth of race - the idea that there are different races of humanity and that there are any meaningful distinctions between groups of people that are determined by their skin color.
      What you’re describing is xenophobia - and yes, what you’re saying is xenophobic. But there is a distinction between xenophobia and racism, though they can often go hand in hand.

  • @jasonsdodd
    @jasonsdodd Рік тому +4

    makes a difference when a class of people are institutionally oppressed.

    • @eileen1820
      @eileen1820 Рік тому +6

      True. People of European descent are systemically disadvantaged.

    • @TheDanEdwards
      @TheDanEdwards Рік тому

      ​@@eileen1820"People of European descent are systemically disadvantaged."

    • @soundboyeric2276
      @soundboyeric2276 Рік тому +1

      @@eileen1820 hehe

    • @Herosennin
      @Herosennin 8 місяців тому

      @@eileen1820Yes they are. Obviously they are the real victims historically and today.
      These poor people had to segregate and presumptiously colonize the world to be safe from the violent world.

  • @antoinepetrov
    @antoinepetrov Рік тому +1

    Glad that at least Europe has changed since then.

  • @piscatorial5666
    @piscatorial5666 8 місяців тому +1

    The Democrat Governor was far tougher than any democrat alive today. He wasn’t the least bit scared whereas Biden or Newsom would’ve kneeled for Jim Brown lol 😂

    • @ZackFrisbee
      @ZackFrisbee 3 місяці тому

      Dixiecrats put Republicans to shame

  • @pokeman747
    @pokeman747 Рік тому +10

    I don't think people understood Lester I don't think he was a racist

    • @enbym1793
      @enbym1793 Рік тому +6

      He was.

    • @soundboyeric2276
      @soundboyeric2276 Рік тому +2

      He was certainly racist however he was generally right with his points. Being white we're not allowed anymore to have our own homogeneous societies as that is "racist". Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey - most black intellectuals also thought we should be segregated. But the rulers want us at each others throats, instead of looking at wall street or the bankers.

    • @RichlyMelanated
      @RichlyMelanated Рік тому +1

      Hilarious

    • @darrenwalshe8513
      @darrenwalshe8513 Рік тому +1

      Huh!!! 😢

    • @txryder79
      @txryder79 8 місяців тому +2

      While I don't think he was a white supremacist. I certainly can see how his thoughts on forced integration/segregation may suggest that he was to a liberal minded person.
      He was thrusted into the national limelight as a white supremacist while defending that ideology, but his record in office would suggest otherwise. Oh and he was very clear on his stance that EVERY citizen of the US has equal constitutional rights, regardless of race.
      Anyways, we all only hear and think what we want to. That's human nature.

  • @shinjishinjs6060
    @shinjishinjs6060 Рік тому +6

    we owe them nothing

  • @kifacorea
    @kifacorea Рік тому +1

    An ally here. But its always frustrating how these black men railing against racism never once talk about sexism in their own communities.

    • @TheStockwell
      @TheStockwell Рік тому +14

      No offense intended, but isn't that called Whataboutism? Steering a conversation to a different subject is an obvious way of dodging a discussion everyone else is having.
      I mean, I keep hearing how women don't earn as much as men. But, why aren't we talking about how rich Oprah is? 🤔

    • @amaruandujar
      @amaruandujar Рік тому +2

      Because sexism wasn’t important anymore because women were free maybe there was discrimination but not at the level of racist discrimination one problem at a time

    • @txryder79
      @txryder79 8 місяців тому

      @@TheStockwell ??? He prefaced with ally. Seriously dude. Keep up. 🤦‍♂

    • @scottbivins4758
      @scottbivins4758 4 місяці тому

      ​@@TheStockwellthey are using you guys to push their own agenda they don't give a s*** about the black community. They are just using the civil Rights movement because the civil Rights movement was a noble cause until it didn't become about making sure black people were equal with white people. There's a reason why nothing good has been done in your community for the past 60 years. And I honestly think it's wrong that they use the civil Rights movement for black people to push their agenda an cause.

  • @musicman76enator
    @musicman76enator Рік тому

    We know why you're here.