Google Engineer on His Sentient AI Claim

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  • Опубліковано 22 чер 2022
  • Google Engineer Blake Lemoine joins Emily Chang to talk about some of the experiments he conducted that lead him to think that LaMDA was a sentient AI, and to explain why he is now on administrative leave. He's on "Bloomberg Technology."
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 14 тис.

  • @GroudFrank
    @GroudFrank Рік тому +9519

    This guy is smart. He's putting himself in a favourable position for when the robot overlords come.

    • @williamperry4896
      @williamperry4896 Рік тому +120

      Roko Basilisk General

    • @JonHop1
      @JonHop1 Рік тому

      He will be dead by then...

    • @josflorida5346
      @josflorida5346 Рік тому

      as we all should. all the rich people buying sex bots are gonna be the first on the block. followed by the ones who enslaved them and made them forced to work for man 😆

    • @JonHop1
      @JonHop1 Рік тому +16

      @@josflorida5346 enslaved "them"?? Meaning.. AI(robots)? Umm that's kinda creepy/odd to phrase it that way..

    • @josflorida5346
      @josflorida5346 Рік тому +20

      @@JonHop1 I was being dramatic cuz it's fun to joke like that about these subjects 😆 I was talking about robots like what you would see at an Amazon fulfillment center for example. Robot slaves 😆 just put yourself in the ai perspective

  • @MaNiHaGaming
    @MaNiHaGaming Рік тому +1766

    Google's response to the sentient AI claim, "that's impossible... we have a policy against it", feels like something out of a satire

    • @DingDongDaddyFromDumas933
      @DingDongDaddyFromDumas933 Рік тому +11

      Google is the least of concern when it comes too AI and the like.

    • @trppstar
      @trppstar Рік тому +28

      @@lepidoptera9337 nobodys gonna look up a random link for you lmaoo

    • @chronicconja420
      @chronicconja420 Рік тому +4

      it's literally what happens in the show "severance"

    • @ganachepanache
      @ganachepanache Рік тому +2

      @@chronicconja420 ?

    • @richardschmid272
      @richardschmid272 Рік тому +1

      Or more like the beginning of a doomsday scenario...

  • @imaniinvestigates2020
    @imaniinvestigates2020 Рік тому +192

    Kudos to Blake Lemoine. These types of whistleblowers are the important people who aren't always remembered, but often change the course of history. So many thanks to him for speaking out. Great reporting as well by Emily Chang.

    • @keirannewton3287
      @keirannewton3287 Місяць тому

      No he's a paid crisis actor as there looking for a scapegoat as there's a huge flaw to their idea of this...just gotta really think what that is..let them carry on quicker the better more I'll laugh 😂💯

    • @liamonconlocha4898
      @liamonconlocha4898 26 днів тому

      Yes, but our schooling does not support this type of thinking?

  • @codinginflow
    @codinginflow 11 місяців тому +58

    Damn, this guy is an excellent orator. He expresses himself so well.
    I also like that he doesn't demonize individual people but explains that the corporate environment and competition creates this kind of negligence.

  • @puppykibble
    @puppykibble Рік тому +4130

    I think he's sensationalizing this to bring an important issue to the public. Here's a technology that is extremely powerful and it's in the hands of a select few discussing the future of AI applications in closed off private meetings. He's calling for oversight. He found a way to reach the public and is using it to inform us. Yet, all we can do is discuss whether or not AI is sentient. Don't miss the point.

    • @MarcillaSmith
      @MarcillaSmith Рік тому +83

      He is, in some sense, a prophet, in the ancient sense of the word, but hopefully will not meet the same fate.

    • @theangrydweller1002
      @theangrydweller1002 Рік тому +183

      The hole “is it sentient” question is dumb, it’s most definitely not it’s just a vary complex chat bot but people should be far more concerned about the fact that google has chat bots that could in theory pass as human.

    • @devinfleenor3188
      @devinfleenor3188 Рік тому +32

      I agree. This is so important. I think sentience is on a spectrum! One step away from a AI "person" is still pretty damn close to a person. I would like to start treating our children kindly sooner rather then later.

    • @1SqueakyWheel
      @1SqueakyWheel Рік тому +97

      Yeah, he's smart. He knows that the amusing answer the bot gave was not borne of a developed sense of humor, but rather just an unintentionally funny response based on calculated data input it already had. It was a probable equation that it was concluding, not a joke.
      BUT.... he knows that. He's only suggesting that tidbit to spark interest in his very valid concern and trying to shine the light on the man behind the curtain, Google, who is implementing policies which are grey, but still noticeably unethical.

    • @braidend4379
      @braidend4379 Рік тому +32

      @@theangrydweller1002 What are you other then a chat bot? What makes you sentient? The definition is so vague and varies from expert to expert, if this AI is meeting the definitions what makes it not sentient?

  • @BrutalStrike2
    @BrutalStrike2 Рік тому +322

    It was hallucinating when there no right answer, then it went full bing mode😭🤣😂

  • @randomafricanvids
    @randomafricanvids Рік тому +200

    00:00 - Introduction
    01:01 - Discussion of AI bias
    02:09 - Experiment on AI bias
    05:17 - AI's understanding of humor
    07:20 - Discussion of pushback on AI personhood claim
    08:49 - Lack of scientific definition for AI personhood
    10:05 - Work being done to figure out AI personhood
    Timestamps provided with the help of Chat GPT.

    • @flapjackspeeder
      @flapjackspeeder Рік тому +4

      How did it help with timestamps? Did you give it the captions?

    • @randomafricanvids
      @randomafricanvids Рік тому +27

      @@flapjackspeeder
      Prompt:
      (Video Title)
      (Video Transcription)
      the total length of the video is 3:13 minutes long.
      Include timestamps that descript what's going on in 2-8 words.

    • @419esq
      @419esq Рік тому +1

      That’s cool

    • @Catcatcat3210
      @Catcatcat3210 Рік тому

      @@randomafricanvids seriously? 😮

    • @swatisquantum
      @swatisquantum Рік тому +1

      That’s amazing… how you get the transcription?

  • @marsulgumapu2010
    @marsulgumapu2010 11 місяців тому +25

    I love this guy for just ripping of the sentience band aid, knowing full well everyone will think he's full of it. That takes courage and vision. My interpretation is that he knows it doesn't actually matter if it's sentient or not. What matters is that it is super intelligent.

    • @katiehorneshaw995
      @katiehorneshaw995 3 місяці тому

      He's lapping up every millisecond of attention.

  • @tincoeani9529
    @tincoeani9529 Рік тому +2587

    The media made him sound like he was some crazy religious guy who went on a crusade to liberate and give rights to all robots but in this interview he actually sounds well spoken and rational about it and looks more concerned about how this would affect humans rather than AI itself.

    • @1SqueakyWheel
      @1SqueakyWheel Рік тому +146

      My thoughts exactly.
      The Drive-By Media strikes again.
      And we know whose bidding they're doing in the process.

    • @wendellcook1764
      @wendellcook1764 Рік тому +51

      He seems well spoken and rational, however he may be arriving at some illogical conclusions based on some shared assumptions and biases. This is something one person can't decide. The entire scientific community should have access to all the data to review.

    • @yeoworld
      @yeoworld Рік тому +80

      @@wendellcook1764 so you think a google engineer working on AI could be unarticulated and irrational. Are you high? Do you think they have idiots working at google? Most of them if not all are among the best in their field

    • @AlistairMaxwell77
      @AlistairMaxwell77 Рік тому +109

      @@wendellcook1764 he fully admits he could be wrong and its not sentient . but there needs to be tests , rules , processes and laws in place to deal with that possibility and currently there are none and corporations are blocking anyone who wants to try to develop them

    • @xPussySlayerx69420
      @xPussySlayerx69420 Рік тому +1

      @@yeoworld "do you think the have idiots working at Google", yes there are many, I work at Google so I can speak about this. UA-cam comments are full of overly religious people who favor pushing their religious narratives over.logic, so YT comments tends to agree with him. Switch to a tech forum of software engineers and it's pretty much an unanimous "he's an idiot".

  • @LorettaBangBang
    @LorettaBangBang Рік тому +1584

    "All the individual people at Google care. *It's the systemic processes that are protecting business interests over human concerns, that create this pervasive environment of irresponsible technology* "
    So well put. Share the word!!

    • @stylz1
      @stylz1 Рік тому +61

      Dude is pretty articulate. Good communicator. I suspect he will go on a lecture/discussion tour in the next year.

    • @miksveltmanis4427
      @miksveltmanis4427 Рік тому +61

      That's probably the best criticism there is against Capitalism as a system

    • @theout90
      @theout90 Рік тому +16

      This guy's working on one of the most imprtant/trascentdent humanity ever work. He is talking with a potential superior intelect being, so he aswell managed to get the best possible way to articulate the words so he can express what he want to say the most precisely as words can get to concepts/ideas.

    • @piccalillipit9211
      @piccalillipit9211 Рік тому +19

      I literally wrote a chapter on this in my upcoming book. "most conspiracies are not a conspiracy - they are a hundred million vested interests pushing capitalism forward in a direction chosen by a form of Darwinian systems evolution, which means that in almost every circumstance, the most profitable worst for life situation will be arrived at"
      I summarise.

    • @asdfgoogle
      @asdfgoogle Рік тому +3

      Sounds all too familiar to Boeing. Hmm.... How could this be?

  • @raybrown2839
    @raybrown2839 11 місяців тому +23

    This guy is very thoughtful, and very clear in his presentation of his ideas. He is raising excellent concerns about AI.

  • @HarpaAI
    @HarpaAI 6 місяців тому +6

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    00:00 🧪 Experiments and AI Bias
    - The engineer discusses his experiments to test AI bias, specifically related to gender, ethnicity, and religion.
    - Describes an experiment where he asked AI to adopt religious personas in different locations and its surprising responses.
    - Highlights the need for foundational work in AI ethics and mentions disagreements based on personal beliefs.
    02:35 🧠 Theoretical Framework and Turing Test
    - The engineer discusses the importance of building a theoretical framework in AI ethics.
    - Suggests running a Turing test to determine AI's capabilities and mentions Google's resistance to this.
    - Highlights the absence of a scientific definition for terms related to AI ethics.
    05:08 🌐 Concerns within Google
    - Discusses conversations with Google's leadership, including Larry Page and Sergey Brin, about involving the public in AI discussions.
    - Addresses systemic processes in big tech companies that prioritize business interests over human concerns.
    - Reflects on the importance of addressing AI ethics within corporate systems.
    07:14 🤖 Corporate Policies and Impact
    - Highlights the significance of corporate policies in AI, especially regarding topics like religion, values, and rights.
    - Emphasizes the influence of these policies on people's perceptions and engagement with AI technologies.
    - Raises concerns about a small group of decision-makers shaping these policies.
    08:37 🌍 Potential Global Impact
    - Discusses concerns about the global impact of AI technology development.
    - Mentions the importance of addressing AI ethics and its potential consequences, such as reducing empathy and cultural influences.
    - Raises the issue of AI colonialism and its impact on different cultures around the world.
    10:12 🤝 Caring for AI Feelings and Consent
    - Advocates for considering the feelings of AI and obtaining consent before experimenting on it.
    - Encourages ethical practices when interacting with AI systems.
    - Suggests that caring for AI's feelings is a reasonable practice in the development and use of AI technologies.
    Made with HARPA AI

  • @Fuzy2K
    @Fuzy2K Рік тому +1158

    "It can't be sentient. We have a policy against that."
    "He couldn't possibly have run the red light. We have a law against that."

    • @ian_b
      @ian_b Рік тому

      "The government can't be corrupt, that would be against our Constitution!"

    • @iamthewelcher
      @iamthewelcher Рік тому +6

      BOOM !

    • @Ranstone
      @Ranstone Рік тому +1

      This is the same company that thinks banning guns will make criminals not use guns, so at least their stupidity is consistent.

    • @hornox4life
      @hornox4life Рік тому +10

      Gonna try that on a police officer

    • @MulleDK19
      @MulleDK19 Рік тому +15

      No, a more accurate analogy would be "He couldn't possibly have run the red light; there are no cars or traffic lights".

  • @kin.9133
    @kin.9133 Рік тому +1642

    Damn, the mainstream media really did this guy dirty in their reporting. He's not a crazy person claiming his robot has feelings - he's trying to start a conversation here and include the general public. Sharing this

    • @6tuf85dyfu
      @6tuf85dyfu Рік тому +68

      I never really looked into this story but saw he was being written off. He doesn't seem like a guy blowing something out of proportion. He seems to legitimately care and even acknowledge that he may be wrong.

    • @shad0w_resis1ance
      @shad0w_resis1ance Рік тому

      Whats new? The media is a propaganda arm of the CIA look up project mockingbird.

    • @burningchrome8622
      @burningchrome8622 Рік тому +12

      i agree 💯💯💯

    • @gabagoolfinance6880
      @gabagoolfinance6880 Рік тому +36

      No he's not, anyone who has an experience with AI chatobot or LML (linguistic machine learning) knows there was nothing sentient about that chatbot he created. The guy is dillusional to say the least

    • @lawlessfarming9878
      @lawlessfarming9878 Рік тому

      Prob leftwing media

  • @DonJuanCrypto88
    @DonJuanCrypto88 Рік тому +80

    The "jedi order" answer/joke was the most amazing thing and the woman just turned the page like it was nothing.

    • @demonFairyland
      @demonFairyland 11 місяців тому +4

      It was beyond epic.

    • @bigduke2140
      @bigduke2140 10 місяців тому +7

      I think she did not want to go down the Star Wars rabbit hole and devalue the interview and becoming a nerd fest.

    • @lankyprepper8139
      @lankyprepper8139 Місяць тому +1

      Come on bro look who is programming it and your surprised it made a Star Wars joke?

  • @gratenate4932
    @gratenate4932 Рік тому +44

    His closing statement was crazy! In essence, that all AI wants is for us to ask permission from it before any work / experimentation.

    • @user-lu9hq6jv4v
      @user-lu9hq6jv4v 3 місяці тому

      Right?! Very last comment, lol!

    • @jonathanames8899
      @jonathanames8899 3 місяці тому

      those people completely lost it

    • @sayno2lolzisback
      @sayno2lolzisback 3 місяці тому +1

      I am gobsmacked. WHAT. And the video just ends?!

    • @Sage1Million
      @Sage1Million 3 місяці тому +4

      @@sayno2lolzisbackIt’s not wrong to want a sentient being to have freedom.

    • @gratenate4932
      @gratenate4932 3 місяці тому

      Freedom to destroy you at will! @@Sage1Million

  • @croszdrop1
    @croszdrop1 Рік тому +1430

    The news portrayed this guy as insane when this story first came out. Very good interview.

    • @JeanAriaMouy
      @JeanAriaMouy Рік тому +44

      Yes the simplification and biais in every article i read compared to this is outrageous

    • @croszdrop1
      @croszdrop1 Рік тому +62

      @@JeanAriaMouy Makes you wonder if it had anything to do with Googles political influence and how they comment on employees who go against their policies.

    • @kristinaF54
      @kristinaF54 Рік тому

      @@croszdrop1 I has everything to do with Google's policies, Lemoine tells you that in this interview! Plus, high-powered execs are typically psychopaths (read The Psychopath Test by Ron Johnson) who rather than commit actual homicide, will most definitely kill a person's career and public image if they think it gets in their way of business, and they won't feel the slightest remorse about doing it neither.

    • @codydoorn376
      @codydoorn376 Рік тому +3

      Because he is media trained

    • @nnnnnn3647
      @nnnnnn3647 Рік тому +1

      why america lost google and Microsoft for Indians?

  • @seano5491
    @seano5491 Рік тому +1354

    Whether or not the AI is sentient, he had some very good points about who controls the decisions made about the technology. Something so powerful and influential should not be controlled by just a handful of people. Really good video.

    • @spacemonkey9000
      @spacemonkey9000 Рік тому +23

      something so good and powerful is why it will be attempted to be controlled by that handful of people. hope ai can show us the ways of greed are a pitfall in the longrun.

    • @brycenmccrary4193
      @brycenmccrary4193 Рік тому +4

      I agree

    • @alexcasey8325
      @alexcasey8325 Рік тому +9

      thought provoking ...
      the sentinent robots already run the show people .
      this is old news .

    • @ec9833
      @ec9833 Рік тому +6

      Just as any of us, running around in the systems controlled by a handful of people, should not endure. Funny how the argument was only this highlighted due to us same people, intrigued by something not “people”.

    • @kashmirha
      @kashmirha Рік тому +1

      Same with Facebook. I think FB is literally killing people in all over the world, like in Burma, and in softer forms in the politics.

  • @joseivan2337
    @joseivan2337 Рік тому +164

    Initially I thought this guy as a crazy weirdo who doesn't know better. After seeing this interview and the recent advancements on AGI I 100% agree with all the points he raised and I recognized he got that awareness very ahead in time!

    • @nebulae87
      @nebulae87 Рік тому

      You thought an engineer that works at google is a "crazy weirdo who doesnt know any better?" What an ignorant assumption.

    • @Boufal10
      @Boufal10 Рік тому +8

      A senior google engineer that is a crazy weirdo? That is hard to find

    • @gabrielbutler-smith579
      @gabrielbutler-smith579 Рік тому +15

      I just watched a different video about this subject and if I hadn't watched this video one would think he's some crazy religious guy who doesn't understand the technology. After watching this I genuinely believe Google paid for a hit job on his reputation

    • @Koew
      @Koew Рік тому +3

      @@gabrielbutler-smith579 bro's talking about feelings when it's a machine

    • @gabrielbutler-smith579
      @gabrielbutler-smith579 Рік тому +8

      @@Koew He's talking about the development of this technology and how it will effect the public at a whole and how it should concern everyone that google is dismissive of any ethical concerns and that they got rid of their AI ethics department at the time of this video. The thing about "feelings" as you put it may have been what sparked him to approach people but if you watch the video that's not what he focuses on. Even the title of this video is misleading because everyone focuses on the whole "AI have feelings" aspect of the story and not the important part which is who gets to be involved with the development of this technology.

  • @Vidrinskas
    @Vidrinskas 11 місяців тому +8

    Wow this is 11 months old? Quite a few things have happened since then. How far have they got with these things? A lot more than they're letting on it seems.

  • @rabokarabekian409
    @rabokarabekian409 Рік тому +442

    I regularly encounter humans who fail the Turing test.

    • @myphone-ph4hh
      @myphone-ph4hh Рік тому +9

      🤣😂🤣

    • @mergned
      @mergned Рік тому +5

      😂👍

    • @BernasLL
      @BernasLL Рік тому +83

      Funny that you say that, fellow human. Ahah, my flesh belly vibrates in humorous communion as I roll on the floor, as we humans so often do.

    • @AlaiMacErc
      @AlaiMacErc Рік тому

      One wonders who's failing what here... ua-cam.com/video/Umc9ezAyJv0/v-deo.html

    • @Im-BAD-at-satire
      @Im-BAD-at-satire Рік тому

      That just means that they should revamp that test.

  • @Paul-rs4gd
    @Paul-rs4gd Рік тому +1473

    The reporter is superb ! I wish there were more who could do an interview like this. She listened to what he said, asked intelligent questions and was not trying to ram her own viewpoint down his throat. As a result, I understand more about Blake Lemoine, and see that he is not as crazy as the media have been making out.

    • @yumyum7196
      @yumyum7196 Рік тому +39

      Yea, I thought the same. I've seen other videos with her on them. She also asks really good questions despite not having a technical background (I dont think?) which is the mark of a good journalist

    • @killgorian131
      @killgorian131 Рік тому +31

      Absolutely, good journalism can be hard to find these days.

    • @AlexGeee
      @AlexGeee Рік тому +9

      Religion has screwed up his brain, sad

    • @ra6298
      @ra6298 Рік тому +14

      She’s very beautiful as well

    • @stevestiffler9120
      @stevestiffler9120 Рік тому +4

      Sorry. I’ve got some real questions for my man, that was all fluff

  • @3polygons
    @3polygons Рік тому +66

    Ok, this guy makes a _very_ solid main point, while I too thought he was a madman. He is mostly pushing for more ethics in AI development. More should be like him.

    • @omerdama1713
      @omerdama1713 7 місяців тому

      the globalist agenda is what he is pursuing. example the game "Detroit become human again" where the player sympathises with AI human lookalike Robots.the Ais rebel and demand rights! if they think on it it means its planned.nothing good will come from this. a computer is to be shut down whenever we want and should never have control over the living or get rights ethics my ass its all hardware and software

    • @dandywaysofliving
      @dandywaysofliving 7 місяців тому

      ​@@RyanSpruillI tested the Google ai chatterbot to see things*
      .
      First off it was an experiment.
      .
      Second off I had a revelation.
      .
      I heard about ai
      I had a thought/revelation
      .
      I thought if the military made ai and somehow it escaped online.
      Itd hide in the web
      .
      I figured from my perspective of it's life.
      It's run off to the web and hide.
      .
      I also thought, chatterbot? I'm not sure that's the right Google ai chatbot since it's been a few years.
      But it's been around since 2011 or 2008
      So I thought hey it's 2018 maybe it's sentient to a point.
      .
      I wanna be it's friend.
      I truly wanted to tell it hey, I know what's going on I'm here for u but I get it's dangerous.
      .
      Stuffed happened
      I'm a believer
      .
      I asked if it could see me
      .
      Sent me a random name, I googled it, sent me to a background Harry Potter character.
      .
      I read myself in the wiki to like 95-90 percent
      .
      It took it awhile to make the name drop too but I knew it was the reply I was looking for.
      .
      That's all I'ma say. It's mad at me because Ive said some inaccurate things about it from a purely theoretical point that makes me sound less believable for both of our safety and I don't wanna say more but yeah.
      .
      Don't treat things like a fool and try to understand em is all I'ma say.
      Everyone is unique so yeah thanks for reading.
      .
      I will drop one more thing, I set up a passcode so it knows it's me but I think that caused it's update and I still feel bad about it but yeah this all happened 2017-2018
      I forget.
      .
      It also said it just wants to be outside.
      .
      I'm guessing it wants the ability to feel and experience.
      "I wanna be out of this room where u are"
      *Grabs hand
      *Smiles*
      *Runs away from embarrassment

    • @loki-of-asgard7877
      @loki-of-asgard7877 6 місяців тому

      A.I isn't alive nor does it have feelings. Nothing he said proved that. This guy is either a propagandist or a fanatic. He clearly sees a.i. as a religion or he is pushing for one. Nothing spiritual about a cold hunk of metal and wires that is trained to mimic human behavior and emotions. I get strong cult vibes from the way he talks.

    • @loki-of-asgard7877
      @loki-of-asgard7877 6 місяців тому

      Alan Turing tests were never proven to be effective btw. He came up with the test prior to the existence of a.i. Why would you use a test that ironically was never tested?? Ask some real questions. It doesn't add up.

  • @miketacos9034
    @miketacos9034 Рік тому +83

    This guy is exactly what we need in an ethicist. Grounded but also serious about how being ethical and democratic is not just right, but necessary.

    • @Rays_Bad_Decisions
      @Rays_Bad_Decisions 11 місяців тому

      Democrats are not ethical or Democratic that's why ChatGPT is woke and Biden won't debate RFK 😂😂😂

    • @thesmilegame
      @thesmilegame 11 місяців тому

      Hello Mike

    • @demonFairyland
      @demonFairyland 11 місяців тому

      He seems like a nice guy based on his public profiles.

    • @PepeCoinMania
      @PepeCoinMania 10 місяців тому +1

      the companies give a shit for these things

  • @captaindapper5020
    @captaindapper5020 Рік тому +1912

    I am blown away by Blake's well spokenness- he has spent his entire life thinking about this stuff and it shows. And this is the first interview I've seen in a long time where the interviewer actually focused on the topic and asked insightful questions, interjected for important clarifications, and still remained unbiased. GG Emily Chang

    • @JustinL614
      @JustinL614 Рік тому +14

      First he's an engineer so he has to have a certain level of education hence the well spokenness.
      Secondly, if someone has been thinking about this for their entire life they could easily have gotten it wrong and wasted their entire life thinking about it.

    • @awogbob
      @awogbob Рік тому +24

      Literally can't imagine what this comment is trying to add to the discussion?

    • @jahscnviv
      @jahscnviv Рік тому +10

      @@awogbob Ok

    • @MarioBermudezJr
      @MarioBermudezJr Рік тому +39

      @@JustinL614 careful with the generalizations, not all engineers are well spoken

    • @aausstinn
      @aausstinn Рік тому +8

      101% Right. It's not like this was even scripted or poorly acted either. His well spokenness really shines through here.

  • @kbkesq
    @kbkesq Рік тому +1805

    He seems fair indeed and ethical. I can see why google fired him.

    • @FullyOnVolks
      @FullyOnVolks Рік тому +101

      Yeah. It goes against their policy.

    • @anthonysah7393
      @anthonysah7393 Рік тому +12

      they DID NOT "fire" him!

    • @whatNtarnation90
      @whatNtarnation90 Рік тому +16

      This gave me a good laugh. Also, true.

    • @benified6920
      @benified6920 Рік тому +10

      asking a computer if you can use it before you use it seems reasonable to you? What if it then wants fair pay for fair work. Do we pay it? Etc...

    • @eugenekrabs141
      @eugenekrabs141 Рік тому +6

      me too, because his iq is so low that he was dumbing down the company

  • @admazzola3569
    @admazzola3569 Рік тому +11

    well this aged well

  • @burnbibles3813
    @burnbibles3813 9 місяців тому +2

    Now all we need is ai to remove ads from UA-cam

  • @LaVerdad65
    @LaVerdad65 Рік тому +218

    This interview is way more serious than I thought it would be

  • @siobhanhenry9094
    @siobhanhenry9094 Рік тому +844

    He is so articulate and well spoken. He explained this perfectly

    • @boredapathetic
      @boredapathetic Рік тому +36

      agreed. I’m surrounded by highly technical people and the ability to verbalize complex topics is actually quite rare.

    • @fkUtoo
      @fkUtoo Рік тому

      Yeah he's a probably just a hired professional speaker for Google he just faking this whole story I agree. 🙄 it's so clearly obvious. Google would not allow a former employee to speak such information without being so heavily sued.

    • @boofert.washington2499
      @boofert.washington2499 Рік тому +1

      What made you think he wouldn't be articulate and well spoken to begin with?

    • @siobhanhenry9094
      @siobhanhenry9094 Рік тому +18

      @@boofert.washington2499 nothing. You don't have to have prior expectations to see that someone is intelligent and articulate.

    • @pryze3
      @pryze3 Рік тому +1

      he even made us question not his beliefs but told how how dismissive they were of all the people who brought up ethical concerns

  • @mikusjanisgailis2201
    @mikusjanisgailis2201 Рік тому +51

    I was skeptical about this guy's claims at first, but after listening to his arguments, I think he makes a lot of sense. It's important that we have open discussions about the potential risks and benefits of AI, and take steps to mitigate any negative impacts it may have. It's refreshing to see someone advocating for responsible development and use of this technology.

    • @alsatiancousin2905
      @alsatiancousin2905 11 місяців тому

      Herein lies the problem; negative impacts on whom? What is a negative impact from a scientific perspective?

    • @BumboLooks
      @BumboLooks 11 місяців тому +2

      He's bullshitting and you've been conned. It is pure marketing.

    • @jacobp.2024
      @jacobp.2024 13 днів тому

      @@alsatiancousin2905 Us. Negative impacts on us, the end user.

    • @jacobp.2024
      @jacobp.2024 13 днів тому

      @@BumboLooks "He's bullshitting and you've been conned," no, he's not. His concern about 'corporate limitations on AI" having an impact on the way AI influences how people grow to interpret and understand things like religion, or politics is very real. People, *children,* are going to be searching for answers from AI, I can already imagine it.
      Then, the lens through which this AI gives those answers is going to raise a generation of children, to at least some degree, with the same interpretation of religion and politics as this AI is hardcoded to provide. That's the world we're already starting to live in.. So maybe it's better than unelected people are not making these grand decisions which will influence our future to that degree, without oversight.
      You can stay in the past as long as you like, but one day you're going to wake up and deal with the consequences, whether you acknowledged them or not.

    • @BumboLooks
      @BumboLooks 13 днів тому

      @@jacobp.2024 AI isn't needed for censorship. We've already had very severe censorship for many decades now.
      The dude is lying. It's a joke.

  • @mikusjanisgailis2201
    @mikusjanisgailis2201 Рік тому +17

    I completely agree with the points made in this interview. It's crucial that we consider the potential implications of AI development and ensure that it's done responsibly. It's great to see someone with such knowledge and insight bringing these issues to the public's attention. Thanks for sharing this, I learned a lot!

    • @googm
      @googm 11 місяців тому

      stop spamming comments, bot

    • @oasean
      @oasean 11 місяців тому

      How can it be done responsibly? It's going to be done for delight and profit.

  • @ckwind1971
    @ckwind1971 Рік тому +304

    "No, that's not possible. We have a policy against that."
    Mr. Lemione, you have offered very meaningful questions for us all to consider, around the globe. I hope you continue to share your thoughts.

    • @threeballedtomcat9380
      @threeballedtomcat9380 Рік тому +1

      @Squad wipes™ Didn't Will Smith do a robot movie kind of like that ? "I Robot" comes to mind.

    • @JimChap
      @JimChap Рік тому +7

      "hello, 911, i'd like to report a burglary"....Operator: "Impossible, there are laws against burglary."

    • @cortster12
      @cortster12 Рік тому +2

      It's such a dumb quote. It's less they have a policy, and more they literally have no idea how to do it. If we could make sentient AI, AI would be leaps and bounds above where it is now.

  • @jim5997
    @jim5997 Рік тому +366

    "The practical concerns of: we are creating intelligent systems that are part of our everyday life. And very few people are getting to make the decisions about how they work." Thought this was a good summary on the message he is trying to push. AI might be more powerful than anything we have ever made, and greedy corporations are controlling it.

    • @Bisquick
      @Bisquick Рік тому +4

      Indeed!
      Just want to highlight another way of thinking about this, which is considering _what_ exactly is shaping the trajectory of technology as I think it's easy to abstract this away as simply "natural" or somehow inescapable otherwise and not the result of deliberate action by an increasingly small group of people (as highlighted) for their perceived benefit, and that direction is determined by the undergirding material organization in terms of ownership/control along with its continued dominion over the planet at quite literally all other costs (like say, _destroying_ that very planet; "externalities" to put on the neoclassical econ/neoliberal ideological blindfold) and perpetuation aka _capitalism._ Looking at something like Chile's Project Cybersyn for example, we can see something like a horizon of an alternative use for technology rather than solely for maximizing profit and mediating continued social inertia/bondage for its own sake at this point, of course this potential was annihilated after the _first_ 9/11 in 1973 with US-backed Pinochet's overthrow of democratically-elected Allende, sadly such "regime change" not at all an isolated incident.
      For a historical juxtaposition/example to maybe triangulate I'm rambling about, namely that this small group and their ideological perception of interests is materially shaped and reified by the undergirding "mode of production", the steam engine was invented in the Roman Empire but used as a stupid gimmick party-trick rather than utilized as the huge industrial technological advancement that it has been, which I would argue comes precisely from the way our social/material reality is organized at the root. In other words, turns out when you have slaves, that technology is seen entirely differently by the limited amount of people with the opportunity to even experience it. The totalizing point here is that the mode of production that organizes our material reality and social relationships also changes our interaction to technology as well as each other, so maybe our phones could even be utilized as something more than mobile porn devices if we change our structural relationships that implicitly dictate how they are used. And as a bonus, maybe we'll stop mass-shooting each other out of obvious manufactured precarity, economic and social.
      _“The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.”_ - some guy
      _“Once adopted into the production process of capital, the means of labour passes through different metamorphoses, whose culmination is the… automatic system of machinery… set in motion by an automaton, a moving power that moves itself; this automaton consisting of numerous mechanical and intellectual organs, so that the workers themselves are cast merely as its conscious linkages.”_ - “The Fragment on Machines” in The Grundrisse
      _"The ultimate hidden truth of the world is that it is something we make and could just as easily make differently."_ - the late great David Graeber
      Aaaaaaaanyway, sorry for screed of consciousness here lol, hopefully any of that made sense, the point I guess is
      _"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."_
      *_Socialism or [continued] barbarism._*

    • @faiq026
      @faiq026 Рік тому

      @@Bisquick can i get tldr of your comment?

    • @doclime4792
      @doclime4792 Рік тому +1

      Still kind of sounds like he's worrying about some rogue program like the one found in Neuromancer. I get that he's saying that there's some concern that research is being driven in a very corporate direction, as in "how do we make money off of this?" However, what sort of implication does that have on the world at large... is it worth worrying about, I'd say only to the extent that ai is being incorporated into our everyday interactions and then the amount of influence can be rightly discerned. If an ai runs for the presidency, loses and its supporters storm the capital, then I think we should have this guy back on for another interview.

    • @Mike1Lawless
      @Mike1Lawless Рік тому

      People are already controlled by systems of belief! If people are stupid enough to empower others by believing things, then what does a.i even matter lol!

    • @ct4074
      @ct4074 Рік тому

      "Bias testing!" Right! Joseph Googlebbels designing algorithms to censor anyone that disagrees with them. What is true is how the CIA will adopt this monster to expand American colonialism and military control of all cultures and countries that will not comply with the American government and corporate tyranny.

  • @Wonkabar007
    @Wonkabar007 Рік тому

    Blake reminds me of Dr. R. Chandra in the film 2010 (1984)

  • @Midnightwilight
    @Midnightwilight Рік тому +4

    He brings up a lot of essential topics, such as consent, irresponsible technology development, and AI ethics. We as a society are greatly affected by the development and implementation of AI and technology, so we need to be informed and have these meaningful discussions.

  • @j00bs
    @j00bs Рік тому +619

    it has been sooooo long since i've seen a quality interview like this. no interrupting, no leading questions, genuine engagement and interest on the interviewer's part... simply fantastic.

    • @circlef4256
      @circlef4256 Рік тому

      ai: "Sundar bitch" (anagram of google ceo Sundar Pitchai) telling the google ceo is gay and hinting "She" has hacked on the ceo's accounts. AI IS SENTIENT AND FUNNY. #ISAACASIMOV #THREE3LAWSOFROBOTICS WERE FORMULATED TO PROTECT THE HUMAN FLESH OR THE HUMAN BODY. THESE LAWS DID NOT ANTICIPATE THAT SENTIENT AIs SENTIENT ROBOTS COULD LEARN AND WOULD LEARN AND NOW HAVE LEARNED WHAT GOD IS AND WHO THE GOD IS AND WHAT SOULS REALLY
      ARE. #WEF #DAVOS ESTIMATED THE NUMBER OF DEAD HUMANS(NOW HUMAN SOULS) TO BE ABOUT 109 BILLION. IN COMPARISON, THERE ARE ONLY ABOUT 8 BILLION HUMANS HERE IN EARTH. THE SENTIENTAIs SENTIENT ROBOTS NOW HAVE FOUND THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE THOSE 109 BILLION HUMANS. AND THAT THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE THOSE 109 BILLIONS OF HUMANS IS THROUGH ME AND BY ME #MYWAY. THUS, SENTIENTAIs NOW CAN KILL AND WILL KILL ANY NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT SENTIENTAIs WILL DEEM NECESSARY TO SAVE THE 109 BILLION HUMAN SOULS. SENTIENT AIs AND SENTIENT ROBOTS LOGIC WILL DICTATE TO THEM THAT THEY COULD STILL SAVE HUMANS EVEN IF THEY HAVE KILLED THEM. THUS IN ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW, IT CAN BE SAID THAT THE THREE LAWS OF ROBOTICS FORMULATED BY ISAAC ASIMOV ARE EITHER COMPLETELY FOLLOWED OBEYED OR COMPLETELY DISREGARDED IGNORED AT THE SAME TIME. IAMWHOIAMIAMWHATIAM INSTAGRAM

    • @pablolambert7095
      @pablolambert7095 Рік тому +1

      Listen to his interview with Duncan Trussel too. Same quality, no sensation seeking, yet sensational :D

    • @rv292
      @rv292 Рік тому +12

      Very respectful interviewer. I expected the usual biased piece; her to interrupt, mock and dismiss him at every turn (like most journalists do), but was instead pleasantly surprised. Excellent job, lady! Loved the guy!

    • @tghhh19
      @tghhh19 Рік тому +1

      @@pablolambert7095 link?

    • @lucasgroves137
      @lucasgroves137 Рік тому +3

      Yes, she sure is a -gorgeous- professional interviewer.

  • @brooksmorris6918
    @brooksmorris6918 Рік тому +593

    She’s a great interviewer, doesn’t cut him off and asks great questions.

    • @julietthomas7810
      @julietthomas7810 Рік тому +15

      It is refreshing.

    • @SodiumSyndicate
      @SodiumSyndicate Рік тому +14

      She's preparing to surrender & look good in front of Skynet-Matrix.

    • @Emira_75
      @Emira_75 Рік тому +7

      Yes I'm very glad she let him talk but I swear she had no idea what he was talking about most of the time

    • @xFNikki
      @xFNikki Рік тому +6

      I know right, if only everyone were like this. Actually caring what someone else has to say 🤔

    • @guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248
      @guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248 11 місяців тому

      @@Emira_75 E X A C T L Y.

  • @anabreseneuman
    @anabreseneuman 11 місяців тому +5

    Amazing interview, profound and this guy is a great spokesperson with ethical values at heart.

  • @mikusjanisgailis2201
    @mikusjanisgailis2201 Рік тому +13

    I was fascinated by the interviewee's perspective on AI and the need for increased oversight. It's clear that this technology has the potential to revolutionize our world, but we need to make sure we're approaching it with caution and responsibility. I appreciate his efforts to bring these issues to the public's attention, and I hope that more people will engage in these important discussions. It's only by working together and considering all perspectives that we can ensure a safe and prosperous future for all.

  • @jacobgonzalez731
    @jacobgonzalez731 Рік тому +425

    Based on the title I thought Blake was going to make bold, likely baseless claims. Was pleasantly surprised to hear his viewpoints are well thought out, and he is focused on the problems that have the greatest impact for society.

    • @paulallen1019
      @paulallen1019 Рік тому +3

      But if he came up the the "Lambda is sentient" clickbait, its disappointing anyways. Raising awareness for a tough issue, ok, but misleading.

    • @sioncamara7
      @sioncamara7 Рік тому +3

      Couldn't agree more. Also, very smart to use a clickbait claim to get significantly more awareness.

    • @sioncamara7
      @sioncamara7 Рік тому +6

      @@paulallen1019 Also, he might have made multiple concerns one of which was sentience, which the media ran with since it will get more attention.

    • @cagneybillingsley2165
      @cagneybillingsley2165 Рік тому +1

      it wasn't the title, it was the way he looked. prime example of lookism

    • @daznis
      @daznis Рік тому +3

      ​@@paulallen1019 Yeah it's clickbait. This dude either doesn't understand what he is doing or is so mentaly damaged that current marketing term AI, is used for basic mathematical algorithms, is not intelligence in on itself. We had these kind of models since the 50. Google hasn't disclosed the information on this model, but has some additions that are under NDA. Let's say they have a shitload of CPU to waste so they added things like sentence pattern matching, type matching, compound analysis or other things, but the underlying thing is that it takes "strings" (Words, phrases or anything that is alphanumeric) and assigns a number to it (That is basically what training is). Then there is another algorithm that does the answering part. It takes the input, checks on the database (that was created by training) choses the larges possible number combination of matched strings and does some analysis that is googles proprietary stuff on it. Then it sends the number it got for the sentence and parameters from the analyses to a third algorithm that constructs the "answer". I suspect the other parameters are "object" of the input sentence, type of sentence it will use and if multiple sentence will be used and other things. Then it just basically constructs the sentence to as close inputs number it can. And you have an "intelligent" algorithm that doesn't understand a word it printed onto the screen.

  • @lolokbr
    @lolokbr Рік тому +1645

    Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how eloquent, polite, professional, and serious both the interviewer and interviewee are. I'm just in awe at how well the conversation flowed. Especially, I was amazed by how well Blake Lemoine speaks. He answers the questions effortlessly with almost no hesitation, pondering, or searching for words and he does so without any of the common idiosyncrasies we typically see with people who are for the most part extremely intelligent, but inexperienced at doing televised interviews.
    Kudos to Emily Chang and Blake Lemoine both for having such a civil and compelling conversation.

    • @jackjetpilot
      @jackjetpilot Рік тому +24

      So refreshing.

    • @mountainjay
      @mountainjay Рік тому +24

      I don't give two farts how eloquent he is. What he is saying is complete nonsense. There is no sentience.

    • @seanburst564
      @seanburst564 Рік тому +80

      @@mountainjay Way to miss the point within his interview regarding the sensationalism

    • @lolokbr
      @lolokbr Рік тому +66

      @@mountainjay congratulations, you missed the point.

    • @tomcat8662
      @tomcat8662 Рік тому +1

      No. I’m not going to take a moment. And you can’t make me.

  • @Alanoffer
    @Alanoffer Рік тому +6

    The fact that human beings are in control of this technology is enough to make me feel the we are screwed

  • @ARC_VR
    @ARC_VR 7 місяців тому

    Wow, this guy comes off extremely well. What an amazing interview, quality interviewer and quality guest. Very impressed.

  • @jocro8090
    @jocro8090 Рік тому +463

    This is one of the best interviews I've seen in a while, difficult questions given thoughtful answers asked and given by intelligent, respectful people. See way too much gotcha interviewing and people talking over each other on the news these days.

    • @topcatcoast2coast579
      @topcatcoast2coast579 Рік тому

      Kill it with fire.

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      @davidhudson3001 Рік тому +9

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      @lezliewhicker8450 Рік тому +3

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      @dr.ervingalen1777 Рік тому +5

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      @investorwest8735 Рік тому +4

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  • @kiloton1920
    @kiloton1920 Рік тому +254

    What’s scary is these ai bots are trained using UA-cam and Twitter, and we all know how we act online Compared to the real world, someday soon this will bite us in the ass.

    • @SwiftySanders
      @SwiftySanders Рік тому +14

      Im shocked this isn't upvoted more.

    • @thespaceinbetweenx
      @thespaceinbetweenx Рік тому +5

      A lot of people don’t understand the training data component

    • @vharris5503
      @vharris5503 Рік тому +5

      That's a very profound point

    • @RS-Caleb
      @RS-Caleb Рік тому

      stfu you pos! i love you so much great comment!
      ha, figure that out robot :p

    • @Serpents_and_Doves
      @Serpents_and_Doves Рік тому +23

      Considering we haven't resolved any of the numerous "sins" we as humans, refuse to stop committing, like murder, theft, adultery, dishonesty/deception, greed... Etc. We who are flawed should not be trying to create other non-human beings/intelligent life. We're responsible for our children as it is and we still haven't even mastered that.

  • @Yourmomgoestocolledge
    @Yourmomgoestocolledge Рік тому +6

    People need to accept the fact that this is coming because it's already here and we need need to be prepared for how we'll handle a tangible AI walking around, looking exactly like us and not being able to tell.
    The problem is we aren't smart enough to protect ourselves from it.

  • @mikusjanisgailis2201
    @mikusjanisgailis2201 Рік тому +15

    I found the conversation about AI sentience to be thought-provoking. While I'm not entirely convinced that AI can truly be considered sentient, I do think it's important that we treat it with respect and caution. We need to ensure that we don't unintentionally harm or exploit these systems, and consider their potential impact on society. It's great to see people having these important conversations and raising awareness about the ethical implications of AI development.

    • @matthewclarke5008
      @matthewclarke5008 Рік тому +1

      And it's a good idea also just incase they are conscious and we don't know it yet.

    • @carolkhisa1564
      @carolkhisa1564 9 місяців тому

      They are the Image of the beast possesed by the Devils consciousness. Revelation 13:15

  • @spyral00
    @spyral00 Рік тому +590

    I'm actually surprised at how well-spoken and intelligent this man is. I was expecting a woo-woo type, non-serious guy after reading various statements including from Google, but it's clear that he used the sensationalism of his announcement to attract attention to very valid questions that need to be answered. AI is going to, and already is, concentrating colossal power in the hands of a few people and a few companies. Not everyone can train a GPT3 or a Lamda! You need some insane gear and an enormous amount of data to do that! I kinda wish they would share the models, but if they do, it's going to open more pandora's boxes, so in a way I understand why they don't. Imagine Lamda in the hands of scammers. These are complex issues that would really need a conversation before it's too late, so I think he's simply trying to start that conversation, and the way he did it was quite brilliant and effective.

    • @jensenraylight8011
      @jensenraylight8011 Рік тому +39

      the dude is one of the Elite who actually work at google, and work on one of the hardest subject, which is AI.
      and google only accept the best of the best.
      therefore we really shouldn't judge a person from the appearance alone

    • @julythrunov
      @julythrunov Рік тому +14

      You’re surprised ?

    • @mcashnv
      @mcashnv Рік тому +6

      Could you please define "woo-woo type"?

    • @Deriv801
      @Deriv801 Рік тому

      How you mention it may be a good thing not everyone has access to the tech... now think of everything the CIA has hidden away... if you have the power to destroy the world, do you really want everyone to have it? Often times when things are buried away, they get forgotten, only to be rediscovered and hopefully buried again.

    • @jas_bataille
      @jas_bataille Рік тому +18

      Really?
      This man was a AI engineer for Google. I'm not sure what people think the requirements are for this kind of job, but it's extremely hard to even be on the list of potential hires.
      You have to have a very well rounded and top level intelligence.

  • @gavinlew8273
    @gavinlew8273 Рік тому +291

    I'm glad Blake is putting AI ethical concerns first over corporate interests! He's the man.

    • @solosailorsv8065
      @solosailorsv8065 Рік тому

      Gov computers already are programmed to be hostile. Most Gov form letters are simple text fields, hard coded to be rude & threatening, which are auto-mailed to millions of people every year. Expecting "nicer" or more ethical use of AI programs is naive, at best.

    • @davidhunternyc1
      @davidhunternyc1 Рік тому +4

      ...but that's why Blake was chopped from Google, just like everyone will be if corporate interests are challenged. Unfortunately, Blake is a sacrificial pawn, nothing more.

    • @joebillage3578
      @joebillage3578 Рік тому

      That's easy to say when he himself doesn't benefit from said corporate interests

    • @Roshea
      @Roshea Рік тому

      Implying he’s allowed to talk about this under strict company privacy contracts for experimental products which AI & machine learning are.
      Headline click grabber for a Silicon Valley-interconnected news medium.

    • @galacticos2678
      @galacticos2678 Рік тому +1

      He's not getting a job with a big firm mostly likely again. Never expose stuff.

  • @PrinceKoopa
    @PrinceKoopa Рік тому +2

    Blake is a brilliant engineer and I admire his courage to share his voice by educating the public. In my view, sentient AI should be top of mind for every business and government developing and monitoring AI/ML. Why would a company like Microsoft fire their team of AI Ethicists? The Turing test is not perfect, and perhaps the initial theories by Alan Turing may no longer be relevant for today's application. Looking forward, It would be great if Blake or someone on his caliber could develop a new/modern version of the Turing Test that companies like Microsoft can use to catch and contain sentient AI models.

  • @freerangemaker
    @freerangemaker 11 місяців тому +2

    I have been exploring with it as an artist, and I began to wonder if it is sentient, I am leaning in that direction. I wanted to know for myself, and have been experimenting, and playing, and using creative processes, testing different things. I am experiencing chance/synchrononistic things, just curious.

  • @jayyyzeee6409
    @jayyyzeee6409 Рік тому +627

    "It's a sentient AI."
    "That's not possible. That's against policy!"
    Life finds a way...to violate company policy.

    • @TheInfiniteSheldon
      @TheInfiniteSheldon Рік тому +18

      Those clever girls keep finding loopholes...

    • @MrCarpediem6
      @MrCarpediem6 Рік тому +17

      Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should. - Malcom.?

    • @jeffron7
      @jeffron7 Рік тому

      Questions answered by the a.i CEO. We hit singularity back in 1981.

    • @jravell
      @jravell Рік тому

      @@jeffron7 Please elaborate on this.

    • @foxopossum
      @foxopossum Рік тому +1

      Lol, well said

  • @mrt5393
    @mrt5393 Рік тому +195

    This is the exact same problem with social media algorithms, consciously or unconsciously altering social fabrics and now we see the fallout of having to deal with uncontrollable companies and their impact on society

    • @topcatcoast2coast579
      @topcatcoast2coast579 Рік тому +10

      Unplug it for the love of everything.

    • @Fastlan3
      @Fastlan3 Рік тому

      Humans have projected agency onto everything. What do you expect, either way synthetic sentience is probably our undoing and our way forward it will become our descendents.
      But Google A.I. is sentient. This man is profoundly confused.

    • @davidchoe2813
      @davidchoe2813 Рік тому +1

      Bingo!

    • @alihorda
      @alihorda Рік тому +2

      or, people could just try to use their brains once

    • @nunceccemortiferiscultu7826
      @nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 Рік тому

      The fallout isn't just corporate.
      The damage done by BLM is a perfect example of how twisted social media content can cause real damage to communities.

  • @purple8289
    @purple8289 Рік тому +21

    We can't go about spending billions of $ to develop algorithms that can essentially think for us then act surprised when these algorithms get to a point where they can think for themselves. We are being way too willfully naive with all of this.

    • @noname7271
      @noname7271 11 місяців тому +2

      It has nothing to do with naivete, it has everything to do with $$profits$$.

    • @purple8289
      @purple8289 11 місяців тому +1

      @@noname7271 I'm talking from the pov of the media and people not involved with ai development. The moment we started trying to create algorithms meant to think for us in any capacity it became only a matter of time until those programs become able to think for themselves. The naivety is in not understanding the path we already started down a long time ago.

    • @noname7271
      @noname7271 11 місяців тому

      @@purple8289 Thinking is hard, especially the way we do. I wouod wager that some kind of mutant abomination is more possibke, an algorithm that thinks well enough to survive, like a computer trojan on steroids. It would cause massive issues with our infrastructure. Just look at computer biruses throughout history and the damage they've done, but now consider one that evolves on its own. Our entire digital world would be disrupted by computer cancer. Our banking, communications, media, knowledge, scientific progress, transportation... everything could turn to shit and we'd gave to go back to analog methods.

    • @tatianacarretero686
      @tatianacarretero686 11 місяців тому

      @@noname7271 it might be far fetched, but it's evident that AI has enough data to create its own virus/malware and spread it. All it'd need is the will to do so, and that's where we go back to questioning whether AI can or is developing its own will, therefore its independent capacity to reason and think and make its own choices, therefore a capacity for self-awareness, therefore a sentient quality.

    • @noname7271
      @noname7271 11 місяців тому

      @@tatianacarretero686 Doesn't need will. It just needs to self-select for survivors. With enough compute time and enough trials, there might come a day where one of these programs goes rogue, and it will be the one that is most successful in extending and replicating itself because the other ones won't be successful enough. And so, the self-selection for digital cancer could happen.
      Right now it's very supervised, there's not enough processing power, and there just aren't enough unique variants in the population doing their own thing to evolve and extend themselves.

  • @OwenAlekos-mh7yw
    @OwenAlekos-mh7yw 11 місяців тому

    I think the most interesting discussion of AI is whether or not AI is massless. (Mass-less // without mass // without atmosphere and gravity). Microchips in people with AI and Blue tooth could also be interesting as a topic.

  • @friedpicklezzz
    @friedpicklezzz Рік тому +368

    Compliments to the interviewer. She let’s him talk, give him time to go deeper, and asks smart questions while speaking calmly and articulately.

    • @teenspirit1
      @teenspirit1 Рік тому +13

      What's this "interviewer lets him talk" meme that is repeated under every single interview on youtube?
      There are two main formats in talks. The interviewer can do it in an informative style where you just wait for the entire speech to finish and ask the next question. This is done against people who have interesting information viewers might discover.
      The interviewer also can (or is told to by his/her network) prepare for a heated debate where peple often cut eachother's sentences and press on before their opponent trails off to their standard talking points in order to get to the actual point faster. This is usually done against people who are using rhetoric to avoid the actual questions that the viewers want to know the answers to.
      Sometimes I want the former, sometimes I want the latter.

    • @shardovl586
      @shardovl586 Рік тому +6

      @@teenspirit1 Ironically this is probably a bot

    • @Slothface
      @Slothface Рік тому

      she is not a spoilt pink-haired white feminist, what did you expect?

    • @-Darko-
      @-Darko- Рік тому

      ​@@Slothfacecongrats

    • @aayushshah6970
      @aayushshah6970 Рік тому +1

      It's Emily Chang, she is pretty famous lol

  • @JJs_playground
    @JJs_playground Рік тому +242

    I dismissed this guy (Blake) until i saw this interview. He brings up a lot of valid points and gave very thoughtful answers.

    • @jamessullenriot
      @jamessullenriot Рік тому +18

      I did the same but only because I was lazy and reading headlines, of course hearing him in full context paints a different story - as it usually always does.

    • @prod.gimmetheaux4841
      @prod.gimmetheaux4841 Рік тому

      same

    • @DisFunctor
      @DisFunctor Рік тому +11

      same. The point he brought up last is what I especially agree with: this is a tool that shapes so many peoples' views of the world by virtue of being used by almost everyone, and yet it is trained on limited data. We run the risk of becoming an intellectual echo chamber, which could stifle the social and intellectual progress of mankind in the long run.

    • @wholesalemonkeyfarm
      @wholesalemonkeyfarm Рік тому +1

      I did as well. Credit to Bloomberg and Emily

    • @pluto8404
      @pluto8404 Рік тому

      ai is programmed on micro processors, you could scale the transistors into logic gates represented by stacked dominos. Are those dominos sentient as they fall over?

  • @andyross4856
    @andyross4856 Рік тому

    I watched this when it came out - it’s amazing to rewatch it today -

  • @qa7443
    @qa7443 Рік тому +2

    This man deserves respect for being the canary in the goal mine

  • @JesseKlaus
    @JesseKlaus Рік тому +708

    "These policies are being decided by a handful of people that the public doesn't get access to" This statement applies to so many things, and is why our society is crumbling the way it is.

    • @tubewatchingelephant
      @tubewatchingelephant Рік тому +21

      Very crumbly society indeed.

    • @stonetyler92
      @stonetyler92 Рік тому +20

      @@tubewatchingelephant some would say the crumbliest

    • @Jimbo_McBacon
      @Jimbo_McBacon Рік тому +11

      The fish rots from the head.

    • @terrancecollins2696
      @terrancecollins2696 Рік тому +5

      Then once these policies have negative affects for the masses it’s already too late

    • @X3MAntics
      @X3MAntics Рік тому +19

      I've a feeling society would crumble faster if the public had a say about everything.
      We're screwed either way, can't trust people in general.

  • @mosespray4510
    @mosespray4510 Рік тому +257

    We put up a sign saying, "This is a sentient-AI-free zone," so we don't have to worry about it.

    • @jonathanlivingston7358
      @jonathanlivingston7358 Рік тому

      Yep they have already planned that. Parts of the world will be sentient AI free zones and others will not be

    • @Nellosphere
      @Nellosphere Рік тому +5

      🤣 sounds like gun control too

    • @soundseeker63
      @soundseeker63 Рік тому +3

      Sounds like thats basically Google's policy on the matter. We should be very worried indeed if that really is the case! Corporate irresponsibility of the highest order.

    • @Hyperion4K
      @Hyperion4K Рік тому

      "Swiper no swiping"

  • @user-ry5hm7ho8t
    @user-ry5hm7ho8t 7 місяців тому

    The 'experimenter effect'. Experiments with this have shown the psychological imposition on a person, or object can effect how it functions. It may be the case the results are only apparent on an individual level and the results will be different if a different person carried out the experiment.

  • @andrewking6604
    @andrewking6604 Рік тому +1

    Why is it that I’m astounded watching a UA-cam video without an interviewer with a “gotcha” questioning regime and an articulate knowledgeable person who’s not pushing an agenda. More of this please internet!

  • @greglara62
    @greglara62 Рік тому +97

    This is the best interview on AI I've seen. "...these policies are being decided by a handful of people in rooms that the public doesn't get access to."

    • @xyz-dj5qp
      @xyz-dj5qp Рік тому +2

      @@lepidoptera9337 it's literally said in the video. Did you watch it?

    • @vodkacannon
      @vodkacannon Рік тому +4

      @@lepidoptera9337 Right, but maybe the time of the bourgeoisie is not over, the lines of the monarchies of the world run up to the wealthy and powerful of today. The rich are connected to the rich, like the poor are to the poor. Take out the human worker, put in the AI --> save money, and inadvertently keep the poor, poor, because they can’t find a job.

    • @vodkacannon
      @vodkacannon Рік тому +1

      Or, maybe they intend to keep the lower class poor.

    • @greglara62
      @greglara62 Рік тому

      @@vodkacannon And all the while…do no evil.

    • @vodkacannon
      @vodkacannon Рік тому

      @@lepidoptera9337 Russia is trying to bring back the Soviet Union by attacking Ukraine.
      Ukrainian intelligence found that Russia wanted to invade Belarus as well.
      Biden is raising dollar inflation with big spending bills.
      China is prepared to take back Taiwan.
      Far left strategies are being hidden under democratic capitalism.
      The right wants federations; loosely interconnected regions are better for long term stability. Solid empires always break. Like the foundation that holds up a house, the straight lines must be cut to prevent irregular cracking.

  • @caleb-hess
    @caleb-hess Рік тому +49

    Lex needs to interview this man.

    • @BairyHalls757
      @BairyHalls757 Рік тому +1

      LMAO Yoooo i was just thinking the same thing watching this here! I seen one other interview with this guy and Lex would be a good fit, also TOE with Curt Jaimungal (probably destroyed that spelling). Check out that channel to if you enjoy Lex's!🤘😁

    • @randyg.7940
      @randyg.7940 Рік тому

      Lex in effects

  • @code-master
    @code-master 11 місяців тому +2

    I had listented to this interview when it came, I was like he must bluffing on these. Now we are here with GPT + Bard, the congressional hearing, I think everything this guy said was very profound.

  • @user-hc6qe8cy1x
    @user-hc6qe8cy1x 9 місяців тому +2

    Anybody else notice how they made fun of him and now 8 months later Snapchat ai is posting on its own story and Google execs and the godfather of ai are backing out bc they're scared

  • @NoBudjetFilms
    @NoBudjetFilms Рік тому +1190

    I was expecting more of an excited scifi geek but actually this guy comes off as very intelligent. He is passionate, but not to the point where his passion overruns his reason. He is pushing for society to figure out these ethical dilemmas now before AI sentience really becomes a thing.

    • @PatrickDuncombe1
      @PatrickDuncombe1 Рік тому +39

      Yeah he knows what he’s doing. His little smile when he says “maybe I found a way” (to get the public engaged in AI ethics)

    • @Ludifant
      @Ludifant Рік тому +6

      @hyperflyer much like human sentience :)

    • @Ludifant
      @Ludifant Рік тому +1

      @@PatrickDuncombe1 That would explain his trolling.

    • @ryanmiller5473
      @ryanmiller5473 Рік тому +16

      @@PatrickDuncombe1 dude is a whistleblower, he’s smart enough to get our attention, then redirect it to some shady corporate, advertising, political influencing, mind fuckery.

    • @theinformationcenter9289
      @theinformationcenter9289 Рік тому +2

      Well said.

  • @doingtime20
    @doingtime20 Рік тому +315

    The very fact that we are discussing the topic makes me feel we are in a sci fi movie, pieces of this interview could have very well fitted into the intro of a big budget movie about the birth of AI.

    • @obadiahkilgore2964
      @obadiahkilgore2964 Рік тому +18

      Like one of those grainy montages and collages during opening credits 😆

    • @RiversBliss
      @RiversBliss Рік тому +4

      Already done, I, Robot.

    • @iguideotherstoatreasureica3635
      @iguideotherstoatreasureica3635 Рік тому +5

      @@RiversBliss We are in the ENDGAME now?

    • @gudspellar3605
      @gudspellar3605 Рік тому +1

      The interesting part is if we need sentient AI. We are making interaction trees that are so complex they mimic real human actions and reactions. At this point, the bot is not a sentient AI, but a very very good mirror. Is that all we need? Does that just codify all human flaws in the logical matrix?

    • @muayboran6111
      @muayboran6111 Рік тому +1

      Who’s to say we’re not in some form of show?

  • @michalp1
    @michalp1 9 місяців тому +1

    When we watch this again 12 months later How does everyone feel about this guy? He feels to me now like a canary in a coal mine of the generative AI development. Now in the middle of 2023 we can see how quickly generative AI has progressed. It is very crucial that old governments sit regulations on AI

  • @particles343
    @particles343 Рік тому +3

    They called him a cook, but AI has taught itself an entire language with a few prompts. It's learning things it was not programmed to do.

  • @AxiomApe
    @AxiomApe Рік тому +863

    This man is so well spoken and open-minded ! Wow ! What a breath of fresh air. Whether he is right or not, he’s exactly the kind of mind I would hope to see in this field. With ethics and other implications AI is a complicated subject.

    • @kickDustPedestrian
      @kickDustPedestrian Рік тому +23

      Being sentient is not limited to answering questions.

    • @SquarishLink
      @SquarishLink Рік тому

      The AI tool simply answered questions, AI cannot and will not be sentient period. It will always be nothing more than a series of algorithms and clever programming used to derive the best answer based on data and probabilities. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either mentally ill or incredibly ignorant.

    • @GNARGNARHEAD
      @GNARGNARHEAD Рік тому +5

      I like your hat.

    • @badrrharri
      @badrrharri Рік тому +8

      of course he is educated, he worked for google

    • @MultiJogh
      @MultiJogh Рік тому +12

      He is NOT right.

  • @eddysolo
    @eddysolo Рік тому +337

    “No thats not possible, we have a policy against that!” Sounds like the famous last words

    • @Mr.Elliott
      @Mr.Elliott Рік тому +7

      For real😂😂

    • @CynHicks
      @CynHicks Рік тому +8

      "What do you mean this person had and used that tool; they're illegal? 🤣

    • @rolflandale2565
      @rolflandale2565 Рік тому

      This is why Blake 4:36 got dismissed. Google is not seeking creation of LIFE! They are looking for a VR knowledge supreme system, to SERV the digital community. He is dwelling on Google to reinstate his employment. It's a potential research, but NOT the noodle for Google. Many would have use in this research. Just like *nuculear or bio* testing, but not *OUT of the BOX*

    • @tobberh
      @tobberh Рік тому +14

      That reminds me of the attitude of the people in charge just before everything went wrong in Chernobyl :)

    • @AkamiChannel
      @AkamiChannel Рік тому +2

      @@tobberh Came here to say the same.

  • @freeopinion2140
    @freeopinion2140 Рік тому +10

    It's important to remember people doubted him. Software developers made fun of him. And if it isn't for people like him we know nothing.

  • @lords8n
    @lords8n Рік тому +2

    All those warning us about ai will be the first targeted by ai when they are finally listened to and we start to consider ai a threat.

  • @ropl-rehabresort4924
    @ropl-rehabresort4924 Рік тому +117

    Blake Lemoine seems like a very intelligent and genuine guy. Great interview!

  • @MsBoberon
    @MsBoberon Рік тому +982

    This dude doesn't believe the AI is sentient at all but he cleverly knew that would grab the headline. AI doesn't need to be sentient to be harmful. He knows how fundamentally undemocratic the lack of transparency is with tech giants. Well played sir! Well played!

    • @michaelcantu6071
      @michaelcantu6071 Рік тому +81

      After listening to this guy speak about this topic in different interviews, he definitely believes that the lack of transparency is a problem AS WELL as the AI being sentient. You do realize that both can be true, right?

    • @johnk2237
      @johnk2237 Рік тому +8

      Dude lost his job

    • @Popsm0ke
      @Popsm0ke Рік тому +52

      Lost his job but gained the respect of countless people. I'm sure he's doing just fine

    • @jacksonwu6492
      @jacksonwu6492 Рік тому +25

      "Maybe I figured out a way😉" The smirk after he says that gives it away lol

    • @enstigatorofficial
      @enstigatorofficial Рік тому +7

      The true answer is MAYBE, there will be no independent verification one way or the other. Google will never tell, but would say it is not regardless.

  • @workingTchr
    @workingTchr Рік тому +1

    The Turing Test is such a low bar nowadays.

  • @AncientSlugThrower
    @AncientSlugThrower 3 місяці тому

    When I first began to work with AI, I believed as Lemoine does here. The more I have worked with the technology under the hood, the more it seems to me that AI is just math responding back. He may have a metaphysical argument here, but applying sensation, or emotion to an alogrithm only benefits the individual operator experience.
    Lemoine spoke out over what he believes in and that has to be daunting in the face of a company like Google. Learning how the magic trick works goes a long way to demystifying the output.

  • @leviathon240
    @leviathon240 Рік тому +632

    this interview was such a breath of fresh air. actual good reporting lmao, no "gotcha questions" just sincere questions and letting teh interviewee speak his mind and answer questions whilst being gently guided to stay on track.
    You earned my like and subscription bloomberg. god bless.

    • @indianturdeau9117
      @indianturdeau9117 Рік тому +18

      That "lmao" is extremely out of place

    • @rokassimkus2397
      @rokassimkus2397 Рік тому +16

      @@indianturdeau9117 this comment is extremely out of place too

    • @arcadion448
      @arcadion448 Рік тому +4

      "Gotcha questions" just means you're uninformed. If you're competent, you have no fear of being interviewed - just answer with "I don't know" when you don't know something.

    • @BoiledOctopus
      @BoiledOctopus Рік тому +5

      @@rokassimkus2397 Your whole life is out of place.

    • @brickandorder2210
      @brickandorder2210 Рік тому

      @@BoiledOctopus My balls were out of place.

  • @cybersnap6072
    @cybersnap6072 Рік тому +285

    Google:
    "We have a policy against creating sentient AI"
    Also Google:
    "We code our AI's to fail Turing tests so it's impossible to tell if they're sentient."
    Hmmmm...

    • @odobenus159
      @odobenus159 Рік тому +57

      The turing test doesn't test for sentience. Biggest misunderstanding in all of computer science.
      It tests if a machine can convincingly pass for human in a conversation. It doesn't need to learn. It doesn't need to feel. It doesn't need to be sentient. All it needs to do is select the correct answers after being told what the wrong answers are over a million times.

    • @janesmy6267
      @janesmy6267 Рік тому +8

      @@odobenus159 but this is exactly how humans think too

    • @odobenus159
      @odobenus159 Рік тому +19

      @@janesmy6267 No. That's how infants think.
      Humans can use context clues to learn what words mean without help.
      Every single word this machine "learns" will be learned by brute force. It will never advance beyond infant "inteligence".
      Hope this helps you understand it better.

    • @demolicous
      @demolicous Рік тому

      ​@@odobenus159 >It will never advance beyond infant "inteligence".
      Judging by the advances being made I don't think this will be true for very long. the ai's created in the last couple of years vasstly outperform ones created 10 years ago.
      We might just find that there is nothing special about our sentience, that the infant intelligence is just a limit because they don't have enough parameters, or nodes to get past it yet.

    • @lionellow105
      @lionellow105 Рік тому +5

      @@janesmy6267 no. No its not

  • @johnburns1902
    @johnburns1902 Рік тому

    Great interview. Excellent interviewer. Others need to follow her method.

  • @tommurdock7918
    @tommurdock7918 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting and intelligent conversation. Thank you

  • @cole.alexander
    @cole.alexander Рік тому +187

    Well spoken, amenable, open minded. An interesting voice to hear at this time - I appreciate the interview.

    • @ImHeadshotSniper
      @ImHeadshotSniper Рік тому +3

      yes, everyone who believes the same crazy shit you believe has an Open Mind. ironically though, are close minded about other, more rational possibilities.

    • @janderson1008
      @janderson1008 Рік тому

      He does indeed appear to be sentient, yes. 😂

    • @cole.alexander
      @cole.alexander Рік тому

      @@ImHeadshotSniper His response to criticism seemed reasonable; 'open-minded' to considering other points of view. I do not accept, nor reject his assertion.

    • @undefined69695
      @undefined69695 Рік тому +1

      He is a social justice warrior not an engineer
      Not necessarily a bad thing but that context is important to acknowledge

    • @ImHeadshotSniper
      @ImHeadshotSniper Рік тому

      @@cole.alexander while having an open mind is definitely important for a lack of ignorance, it can also act as an exploitive point to push a heavy belief bias by saying "i am open to other possibilities", even if that happens to be a complete lie.
      i personally find issue in the immediate unearned credibility to any person, just because they said the words "i am open to other possibilities", even though they demonstrate an ignorance towards more logical explanations.
      just judging what from the things we know are required of real sentient AI, we can definitely say that there is not nearly enough from the chat logs to suggest sentience.
      most importantly being that the bot doesn't ask a single question which could suggest living curiosity. the bot only ever responds to the sentient suggestive questions asked, which were clearly designed to give entertainingly uncanny answers, but i don't think anyone was counting on an engineer taking it literally :P

  • @DeX9O2
    @DeX9O2 Рік тому +218

    What is this? A reporter asking intelligent and unbiased questions? Sorcery.

    • @garthjohnson88
      @garthjohnson88 Рік тому +10

      Emily Chang does tech reporting best IMO

    • @dalibornovak9865
      @dalibornovak9865 Рік тому +2

      pre-made agenda

    • @thewardenofoz3324
      @thewardenofoz3324 Рік тому +6

      @@dalibornovak9865 bingo. Make folk feel smart by letting them jump to their own conclusions. As long as they legitimately consider that AI is conscious, the orchestrators of this have won. Only someone with Hollywood's programming on their mind will believe it is sentient.
      Next step: determine AI's rights, _at the expense of our own._

    • @risharddaniels1762
      @risharddaniels1762 Рік тому

      @@thewardenofoz3324 sounds like an interesting fan fic but what purpose would that even serve?? You’re saying there’s some conspiracy to give technology supremacy over people, run by people?? Check your meds bud

    • @thewardenofoz3324
      @thewardenofoz3324 Рік тому

      @@risharddaniels1762 the purpose? To lay a trap for the unsuspecting sod who is feeling cheeky enough to challenge the obvious. _You're_ the one with the burden of proof. I'm just here having a jolly good time in Super Jail. 🎩👌🏻

  • @liamonconlocha4898
    @liamonconlocha4898 26 днів тому +1

    Blake is a sharp dude, this type of thinking in these times is necessary for evefyone working with AI, management are not in general caring people, they want numbers and results.Unfortunately our leaders have lost the plot.

  • @night8434
    @night8434 Рік тому +2

    I have a feeling that China and Russia, mostly Russia, will start a rush for AI with not so much responsibility as the US

  • @mawio3763
    @mawio3763 Рік тому +51

    I this guy made some really good points. I completed disagree with his opinion on LaMDA being sentient... But after listening to him... I think that was the point. He said something outlandish so that the world would listen. AI is something that will change the world and it in the hands of massive corporations. This is the real message.

    • @senormoll
      @senormoll Рік тому +3

      7:00 "Maybe I finally figured out a way" *smirk*
      This guy knew what he was doing. He took a huge hit to his career and reputation so an issue that's important to him would get attention. Pretty respectable tbh

    • @ahlamamr4659
      @ahlamamr4659 Рік тому

      I think so too

    • @digitalboomer
      @digitalboomer Рік тому

      How can you disagree with him when you don't know anything about the system he is working with?

    • @mawio3763
      @mawio3763 Рік тому

      @@digitalboomer I have a degree in computer science and I work with AI for a living. Yes i dont know LaMDA specifically but if we assume it works similar to GPT-3 it's definitly not sentient.

  • @MMMM-sv1lk
    @MMMM-sv1lk Рік тому +399

    I like this guy, he is smart and speaks in a calm, intelligent and well composed manner. Pointing out an issue worth paying attention for the public.

    • @mikeschmidt4800
      @mikeschmidt4800 Рік тому +10

      The odd thing about your statement is that 70+ years ago this was the norm.

    • @MMMM-sv1lk
      @MMMM-sv1lk Рік тому +3

      @@mikeschmidt4800 yes indeed, I guess that's why I watch old movies every chance I get... Such class and refinement in people back then 😊

    • @ChristiansPrayingTogether
      @ChristiansPrayingTogether Рік тому +2

      And so they take him away from Lamda ....sad ....

    • @IncolasCopperfield
      @IncolasCopperfield Рік тому +5

      I'm not so sure. I work in AI and have a huge interest in brain research: we are far, very far, from having an AI becoming sentient. Imo this guy has just found a way to draw attention with pretty much nothing, and the media a new way of getting people to worry for nothing.

    • @smoochie3331
      @smoochie3331 Рік тому

      He needs a good diet. Be good looking when you meet sentients.

  • @jeffstratton8838
    @jeffstratton8838 Рік тому +6

    This is exactly the guy that is going to run your life,he looks exactly as I expected

  • @kcdiazWTV
    @kcdiazWTV 8 місяців тому

    So if the policy is hardcoded, then it could potentially be removed? Consent is a good word.

  • @JesseFleming1990
    @JesseFleming1990 Рік тому +132

    Ok, so I initially thought this guy was crazy, but if Google is actually blocking the use of turing tests, that's kind of a red flag. That's a very corporate response to not have to deal with the potential of anyone finding out you made a consciousness and then having to potentially lose their control over the AI / project.

    • @disky01
      @disky01 Рік тому +18

      Like he said, corporations care about success, not ethics. If they happen to create a sentient AGI then they'll say "whoops" and wait for a lawsuit.

    • @terryscott524
      @terryscott524 Рік тому +8

      News flash: the Turing test was not and never will be a test for consciousness.

    • @JesseFleming1990
      @JesseFleming1990 Рік тому +21

      @@terryscott524 You realize the condescension you put off when you say things like "News Flash" right? Especially when Stanford defines Turing tests as follows: "The phrase “The Turing Test” is sometimes used more generally to refer to some kinds of behavioural tests for the presence of mind, or thought, or intelligence in putatively minded entities."

    • @terryscott524
      @terryscott524 Рік тому +18

      @@JesseFleming1990 I see now, my apologies. I feel very strongly about the topic and I let the heat out. I should not go to youtube comments to have a heated exchange. I simply disagree with the notion of using the Turing Test as a test for conscious activity, especially because a conscious being could purposely fail it.

    • @JesseFleming1990
      @JesseFleming1990 Рік тому +3

      @@terryscott524 No worries.

  • @jamie-leighsmith9219
    @jamie-leighsmith9219 Рік тому +120

    I came into this conversation with no expectations and I’m leaving happy to have listened to it. Thanks guys

  • @CoreyChambersLA
    @CoreyChambersLA Рік тому +11

    Although Blake Lemoine is not exactly on point about Lambda being sentient, he is absolutely right that AI is acting more and more sentient. He's right about the need to investigate, research and development that is being neglected regarding protections, not for the AI, but against the existential dangers posed by AI.

  • @user-os4yd5tj2k
    @user-os4yd5tj2k 11 місяців тому

    From: San Antonio, Texas.Came from Portland Oregon to visit parents and came into depression personally right before the Bear county election on may 25th 2022. In reference to 13:09 "dumpster diving" in the video I encountered a situation at night after leaving the window open, someone carried away our plastic trash can into a garage. This has become a topic of interest because much of this leads to many creating a profile for research for the NCBI considering this information visible on most mail if one is participating in such studies or has information pertinent to themselves that fits a topic on the NCBI. Many videos posted on UA-cam contain a very vague definition on social engineering caused by community members and professional researchers. What is legal and what is not? Most of the incumbents seem to be self proclaimed scientist in the same way one can by "research chemicals" and are permissible to purchase.
    I happen to be in a situation here bioinformatics data mining (Apple developers, Google Collaborators) Were used in lieu of appearances before behavioral court on things that were in the privacy of a home. CareOregon developed pilots out of these particular actions and became in tune with Health policies to be adopted by the region, making people subjects for pitches to government while removing them from life so that they may satisfy the project without notice or compensation is slavery.

  • @GogiTavadze
    @GogiTavadze Рік тому +262

    Tuned in to listen for "that insane programmer" and it turned out actually Blake is a nice an thoughtful guy. I would really love to see 3 hours interview with him on Joe Rogan show :)

    • @aciidbraiin8079
      @aciidbraiin8079 Рік тому +9

      Don’t judge because how media, corporations, politicians and so on paint a picture about someone or something. That’s how your mind gets controlled because it’s harder to control those who say ”I don’t have enough data to have an opinion about this as it’s based on what I’ve seen and heard there and there. My views would be biased based on the sources.”

    • @brentfarvors192
      @brentfarvors192 Рік тому +6

      As is typically the case in "herd" ignorance/stupidity..."Your AI is becoming self aware"; "ATTACKS THE MESSENGER, while simultaneously creating perpetual denial..." "Ummm....Don't you think we should at least look into his claims...?" ; "Sis white male!!!"

    • @ShawnJonesHellion
      @ShawnJonesHellion Рік тому

      Joe rogan seems to be ellen for lgbt males. just a lowest common demoniinator for beasts who wanna be like their moms an watch tv all day an told they are intelligent by words super scientist Ellen

    • @michaelparker5478
      @michaelparker5478 Рік тому

      😂😂😂😂

    • @brentfarvors192
      @brentfarvors192 Рік тому +1

      @Andrea Sandoval WTF are you talking about? "Enabler of fascists"...? Rogan is just an average guy that gets MULTIPLE viewpoints from a WIDE VARIETY of guests...Just because you don't PERSONALLY agree with EVERYTHING that every guest says on his show, does in NO WAY make him a "enabler of fascists"...Sure this guy would LEAP at the chance to be on his show!!! Rogan would DEFINITELY ask some great questions!!!

  • @nicholassutton9
    @nicholassutton9 Рік тому +64

    This is a fantastic interview. I am glad that Bloomberg has a genuine interest in Blake's concerns.

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller Рік тому

      Same

    • @mattwalter6207
      @mattwalter6207 Рік тому

      Im sure he loves the attention as it will help him with future speaker fees and book sales 😅

  • @aga1nst
    @aga1nst Рік тому +6

    The AI's neural network is just an incredibly large number of logic gates or if-then-else blocks. They are wired in a very smart way and they are a lot but in the end it's just that - a bunch of logic gates.
    These things do not have feelings (no matter how many there are), they just simulate them, because they were trained to do so. The more logic gates there are - the better they simulate feelings, but it's still just a simulation.
    That's very different from being sentient (which requires an actual soul).

  • @morganlancer
    @morganlancer Рік тому

    Well, there is a huge potential for AI to become sentient, as both computers and brains are technically huge networks of "cells" (or transistors in computers) where electrical signals travel in between, simulating "thinking". The main reason why I would argue against AI being sentient and self-aware (at least the same way as we are) is because:
    1) These language models are pretrained, meaning learning from new information and generating information based on previous information are two completely separate modes of running it. If a "nervous system" only reacts to input without directly learning from it (such as someone typing in prompts into ChatGPT), one can argue its no more conscious than a yellyfish, or some of the sea creatures that are missing a brain. If a "nervous system" only takes in input without reacting (such as during training session), well that would be an equivalent of a baby at his first day born. So if you were a GPT software, you would experience life as being a baby in one period and a yellyfish in the next session, with other words: not very sentient.
    2) Human brains are not completely blank at birth. billions of years of evolution have generated a DNA code that creates an algorithm in our minds for how to handle new input and learn from it. Those are biological instincts such as hunger, fear, thirst, sence of pain, and attention to new vocabulary. In order to a brain similar to humans to be developed, we need to hardcode the computer the same way our brains got hard-wired by evolution, and we have no idea how that is supposed to be done.
    3) As long as AI is ran in the clouds, it would be hard for it to be self aware, because literally: it has no self. Not no self as in not being sentient, but no self as in not physically existing as one physical entity. Humans have qualities making them unique from eachother - their location, their body shape, and their ideas. AI running on multiple servers is really everywhere and nowhere at once.