T4 is 100V. (not 84v) I like the look of the Patton, but not a fan of 16x3 tires anymore. Would prefer it to be 18x3. Hard to find good street tires at that size, and the Patton seems pretty heavy for that size tire.
@@HumbolSkitso yes, lots of people are confused about this. The eWheels website has them with the 16x3 T4 knobby tire, so I think its safe to say its 16x3.
Hoping that a new model for commuters comes out soon! These enthusiast wheels are cool to see but its been a while since we've gotten something in the price range of a v8 or ks16
I was pretty excited for this wheel, but the 89 pound weight has dampened my enthusiasm a lot. I was hoping that it would be closer to 65 pounds like the T4.
I love veteran but I feel like they got this one backwards. Who wants to go 60mph on a 16 inch wheel? The Sherman S should have been the 126v speed demon and the Patton should have been the 100v.
I'm waiting for Leaperkims answer to these big-boy wheel that have come out lately...(V13 and the master pro 134v)! I wanna see a 134v version of the Sherman S)!
I love the different wheel size options, but the weight is still out of control. I love the speed and range benefits of my Master, but more often than not it's more fun to ride my S18 simply due to how easy it is to just throw into the car, it's agility, handling, comfy ride, etc. There's a completely different fun factor to a 50lb wheel, and with such a saturation of 75-100lb options already out there, I'd like to see a push towards more fun lightweight options. I'm hoping solid state batteries will really help push that front.
just done a test ride on the Patton what an amazing wheel I uploaded a few UA-cam videos can't wait for more reviews this thing is this year's top wheel maybe
@@philamonhemstreet8632 yeah I don’t think the T4 is selling that well though. V12’s are down to like $1800-2000 USD. 3500 for a 16” 2200wh wheel seems too high but idk. I’d rather have an S22 pro for less.
If you follow the trend, companies should be building a 70 mph capable wheel this year. In 2026 there will be a 100 mph capable wheel. It's not crazy when you consider some scooters go 90 mph TODAY. (Edit: Standing Scooters)
Still have my 16X and I still like it, 16" of course but with good range, reliable, tolerant of poor conditions. No suspension, but I use it for the road. I have the S18 as well but now we are talking 18" and less range. So this wheel is up against the T4 I guess, but I still would compare it with the 16X in respect to what I would do with it.
@@Scifi_Ape Very similar to the 16X in many ways. I have never ridden the 18XL, if I had a criticism, I would say the 18XL tyre width of 2.5" instead of the 16X tyre width of 3" was not so good.
It's always exciting to see a new wheel however I would appreciate it more if the company would improve the wheel which they just released a couple months ago. The one knock that I have against all the companies is they just keep releasing Wheels, when the wheel they just came out with has numerous problems.
I feel you regarding all the new wheels. This is something Veteran has been pretty good about. It’s one wheel per year and they don’t compete with each other. Sherman Max, Sherman-S, Veteran Abrams, Veteran Patton.. all different sizes that target different types of riders. Now Begode on the other hand….
My regular v1 s22 is my favorite wheel. Now with upgraded slider wheels, 3rd motor, 2nd charger, broken shock mounting bolts, and it is worth every bit of time, trouble, and money I've spent on it. My only thing I'd like to see improved is a 3200wh instead of 2220wh battery pack. S22 just feels perfect when riding. I'd like to see more competition on this field. Sounds like this wheel may be just that.
@Happyantix , 20 supposedly, including tread. 14 x 2.75 rim. This is only 16 inches. 4 less. Though v12ht is only 16 and it can jam nicely, as well as t4.
The Inmotion V12HT at 69lbs is the perfect weight for a "16 wheel. So happy I got that wheel as my first wheel at 5'11 235lbs. So much torque and acceleration. Dunno if it would be possible to include a "good" suspension and keep it at 70lbs with the superior kind of build quality like the V12 possesses. Ahh well, one can dream. Who knows though, the Patton might feel super nimble and maybe even stable at higher speeds. The perfect "16 inch wheel though is a V12HT with good suspension at 70lbs. (:
Awesome! I saw these for sale on Ali but wasn't sure if it was real or not. This seems like a Begode T4 competitor. Except I think we all know it's going to be the best trail wheel on the market. I might buy one to sit next to my pending Sherman S. 🙂
Every new wheel release excites me. But, kinda strange making a 16” with 126v while their 18” is 100v. If it has same suspension as the S, I will probably be interested but not a huge fan of 16” tires anymore. Thanks guys!
Looking forward to seeing what they do with this design as I'm in the market now for a 16in wheel and can't decide between the T4 and V12 HT. Any suggestions for a 6'4 265÷ rider? Thanks! And keep coming out with the great reviews and news!
As a taller rider, I would recommend the V12 HT over the T4. It's a taller wheel and would be more comfortable for you. The T4 doesn't seem like it would support you as well based on your size.
@@eevees Went with the V12 HT and LOVE it great suggestion! I'm out riding now when only a few weeks ago I couldn't imagine being able to do this now I'm hooked. Keep up the great content.
I like that they are joining the 126 volt category. However, this is something they should have done with the Sherman-S imo, and I think they could have 100 volt this 16 inch. A 16 inch wheel is something I would want, but this isn't it. It will have a 5 to 6k CAD price tag, and the s22 is better.
They could have done that with the S. But they can also sell a lot of S models and in the future make a 126v successor and sell high numbers again to all the people wanting to upgrade. Euc consumers are middle aged tech savvy guys so their wallets should be milked as much as possible:)
too heavyyy...... sigh. please IM and KS get their 16" offerings under 60lbs. Or better yet, Kingsong put the 2200w 84V motor in a 14D. Call it a 14X, and keep the software speed lock at 31mph (because that's way into sketchy stability territory on a 14" anyway, keep the headroom high). That would likely make Begode announce their MCM6 they've been holding off on too. We need more power in these practical form factor/easy to manage/ throw-on-the-front-seat type machines.
Owning the Sherman S even at 100v, i love this type of suspension. This is something I'm excited about. This will probably replace my T4, and at 126v will probably have better top speed
It seems clear that the quality of Leaperkim is recognized by everyone and there are enough people who would like something smaller from this company, so I do not understand why they insist on making only tanks. For people who want last generation big wheels there are a few, for those who want midsize only the v12, which has no suspension, and the T4, which to me doesn't offer much security for being Begode. Something similar in battery and motor to the v11 with new technology and the suspension of the s18 or the sherman s, would be the perfect versatile wheel for city and small outings to the countryside. The only way to stay under 30kg while maintaining build quality is to assume the battery and motor can't be huge. Many of us don't care about big numbers because we don't need them. Let's hope that Inmotion and Kingsong dare to reduce weight.
Everyone is hating on 100+lbs wheels that actually have 3600wh (EX30 specifically getting railed by many reviewers @101lbs), but you get a 16" wheel with way less battery at 89lbs and everyone is excited lol I'm curious how their first over 100v wheel comes out, but that is stupid heavy for a 16" wheel. T4 is 70 lbs, and Master is under 80lbs with more battery.
I was hoping for great suspension replacement of my V12HT, but the weight of this new wheel is ridiculous. T4 is 10kg lighter, S22 is 5kg lighter (and has same battery and much bigger tire).
All metal body should make it quite durable but adds weight for sure. It turns out the weight is a bit off. Actual weight is 86lb… still quite heavy obviously haha
@@eevees yah hmmm, the numbers don’t add up to me. Making a less capable wheel that’s almost as heavy as the Sherman S seems weird. I assume this model was intended to provide more variety in their lineup.
I am of mind set that a 16 inch wheel should weigh no more 70lbs and be nimble. It should be able to be carried up/down upstairs, easily lifted into a car, etc. Wrong direction to go for a 16inch wheeel.
I’m hoping that the reasoning is it’s built like an actual tank and can take a beating. I’d take the extra weight for something that can really be put through it’s paces
Seems like a fat- arse wheel with a wide tyre in a smaller package. Wouldnt say its going to be small and nimble!Dont know about this for a trail wheel!
There's a "bd7" on ALi which is a 16" fat AF tyre 35kg EUC nobody seems to talk about. These 40kilos wheels are a blight for the market. Who tf would want a wheel this fast and this heavy on such a small tyre with even less battery than v13..
That's like saying a 7 seat car is always better. It isn't for couples with no kids. Not everybody wants or needs a big battery. I agree on the weight though.
Im using #VOLT INU to buy all my new EUC if i sold now i could buy 2 sherman s and i only invested $2300 = ) 30 days ago = ) but volt is going to be so big the bullrun is starting = )
It's actually worse than I predicted. I said begode will have the full lineup out before everyone else gets anything out. And begode will have V2 out. Also, guys it's OK that you personally like Veteran, bud do understand they price em way more. And for a lot of us blue collar workers...we'll you only got so much to spend each year. And we have no issues fixing stuff if we get a wheel with same or better performance for a 1k$ less, or 30% less. Not small figures lads. If you have the money it's nice to get quality, but if you don't, you take what you can get
Freakin hilarious! SS comes out & 100v is da best thing since sliced bread & all one would ever need. Everything above is "dangerous". Now that LK is going 126v, its no longer dangerous but instead dangerously fun 🤣. I get dealers want to sell wheels but it ain't smart to snort your own junk & think everyone else in the room is stupid. Personally I dont know if the Patton will be a hit or a miss but I can safely say that I for one, am not into a 90lb 16". Kinda defeats the whole point of going small. IMO YMMV & all that stuff ofcos
So there are two military tanks named Patton, however Patton is a terrible name, because even though General Patton was also a military figure, he died from a blood clot that was caused by a car accident. It's good it's a 16" wheel with suspension, & it's 126v, but it needs to come with a street tire or a street knobby tire option. Changing a tire on a out the box EUC is getting really old.
Wtf 40kg. Is it joke? Who and why will buy 40kg 16inches. It's heavier that s22, lol. As for me, completely useless and pointless wheel. Will keep my T4
They are not unsafe at legal riding speeds in our city. However, if you're going to go fast, DOT helmets are recommended. You'll be pleased to know that we go over this in our next EX30 review video and will be getting Simpson DOT motorcycle helmets in soon to sell.
@@eevees you shouldn’t be promoting any helmet that CANNOT handle an impact that the products your selling are capable of. Your exceptionally arrogant and irresponsible on this subject.
@@skampster We sell more than just EUCs. We sell low speed electric scooters and Onewheel’s. The TSG Pass Pro is made for downhill long boarding and certified for downhill mountain biking. Sufficient for most of our customers. We hear you and are adding products to our lineup to address it. Thank-you for your concern.
My wife was wearing an S1 helmet, simply doing 25kph on an InMotion Si, she hit a bump in the road, face planted, broke 6 ribs, her clavicle and on top, got a bleed in the brain. That particular helmet is actually rated for that speed, but still had issues. EUC crashes are far more Dangerous than scooters, you should only be encouraging everyone to wear proper motorcycle grade full face helmets for all EUC riders.
@@skampster I’m sorry to hear about your wife. We have had customers come in and bring in their TSG Pass after a crash and told us that it saved their life. This has happened on more than one occasion. The fact is some customers aren’t going to wear a heavy motorcycle helmet on a scooter or even an EUC so the TSG Pass or Fox ProFrame are better than no helmet at all and much better than a non full-face bike helmet. I’m not going to sit here and argue with you anymore but I guarantee if we didn’t sell TSG Passes, we would have way more customer injuries.
Too big and heavy. 90 lbs and 3000WHr is not what I am looking for in a trail wheel. Looks like I’ll be keeping my eyes peeled for a v14, or settling for a T4.
Seems they went all out on the specs, but sacrificed the weight. I am not sure who this wheel appeals to. Taking a 89lbs wheel to the trails will be quite a challenge. Those who want a lightweight 16" wheel will have to look elsewhere. I guess we'll see what this wheel brings to the table, but im taking more of a sit back and wait approach
Deal breaker weight for me. I have a Sherman S which I love that I have put 1,175km on so far. For a lighter/smaller wheel I currently have a V12HT. The Veteran Patton could potentially have made a better smaller/lighter wheel than the V12HT with the suspension and bigger battery - BUT, that weight with that battery capacity . . . Sorry, no. That is just too heavy for a 2,200Wh 16" wheel. I don't even need 126V, my 100V Sherman S has enough speed & power for me and I love the range I get. Maybe I'll wait for better battery tech so that I can replace the V12HT with something just as good on range/power/speed but lighter.
16-inch tire? Whew, sounds like were finally coming back from the "stupid big expensive heavy wheel" categories to more reasonable ones... I really don't want to see 4 different wheel that cost over 3000 bucks be released back to back anymore
I was having difficulty accepting the prices, and the impractical sizes of the new entries. This will be a breath of fresh air, especially from a brand that’s well respected. I am all in. Secondly, if no one ever expressed their appreciation for this channel, I would like to be the first. The quality of this channel is second to none. Even though you are beholden to keeping your doors open, I can’t help but to recognize your passion and concern for the community at-large. Thank you for being the heartbeat of our beloved EUCS.
As a person that has never possessed a driver's license, but has thousands of hours cycling experience, this mode of transportation would be absolutely life changing.
I think a 16 wheel with a "great" suspension would be a very good wheel. Maybe the Patton might be that wheel. Are you folks going to order batch one🤔. Cheers
The weight though on a 16'? thats gonna be interesting to see how it handles. anyways shout out to you guys I came in your shop about 2 weeks ago,probably dont remember me I just passed by (black guy, from the island, owns a v8f) hope your repair shop is going good.
I wish they will come out in two versions. A heavy fast one and a lighter one about 30kg and speeds 75 or 80kmh, maybe 2000wh battery, 100v or 126v. It should have a mudgard and a Stand like Sherman S. The T4 was a turn off because it has no Stand or kick stand the practicality a true commuter needs.
90lbs!?! That does not sound like the light weight maneuverable 16” suspension wheel I was hoping for. I hear good things about the Sherman suspension but it may be adding too much weight compared to the other suspension types.
Sounds cool can’t wait to see it, sounds a tad heavy for trails and jumps… I might have missed it in the video… did you guys mention the suspension style? I’m guessing like the Sherman s right?
T4 is 100V. (not 84v) I like the look of the Patton, but not a fan of 16x3 tires anymore. Would prefer it to be 18x3. Hard to find good street tires at that size, and the Patton seems pretty heavy for that size tire.
Whoopsies! Total brain fart. I knew that of course. Hopefully they pick a decent 16" tire.
Exactly 16inch at speed is type sketchy
I thought it was 18 inch though?
The description on Eevee's website has the patton saying its 18x3 ??? Is it 16 inch euc or an 18 inch euc?
@@HumbolSkitso yes, lots of people are confused about this. The eWheels website has them with the 16x3 T4 knobby tire, so I think its safe to say its 16x3.
Leaperkim = we have new Veteran Patton 126V 16" wheel
a few moment later..
Begode = we have new T5 160V 3500wh 16" wheel
Just 3.5kg lighter than Sherman-S... Makes no sense.
Hoping that a new model for commuters comes out soon! These enthusiast wheels are cool to see but its been a while since we've gotten something in the price range of a v8 or ks16
kingsong should just make a 16x but 126 volt and suspension
@@VECTOR_Coasters so an S22?
@@JonahHax yes but 16 inch, usb ports, smaller, cheaper, not that exposed design, etc
Im really hoping for a refresh of the v8 with better range, top speed and same form factor. It would be perfect for grocery runs round the city
@@toast-cj so like 126 volt 2500wh? it would be hard to fit more battery but they could definitely do it
Intrigued looking forward to hearing more about this wheel. Definitely appreciate the QC I can see why they left begode and formed their own company.
I was pretty excited for this wheel, but the 89 pound weight has dampened my enthusiasm a lot. I was hoping that it would be closer to 65 pounds like the T4.
I love veteran but I feel like they got this one backwards. Who wants to go 60mph on a 16 inch wheel? The Sherman S should have been the 126v speed demon and the Patton should have been the 100v.
It won't go anywhere NEAR 60MPH.
But I feel ya
It'll be fun to see we are now entering an era where even reviewers won't dare to test the limits of these wheels:)
I'm waiting for Leaperkims answer to these big-boy wheel that have come out lately...(V13 and the master pro 134v)!
I wanna see a 134v version of the Sherman S)!
Looking forward to the release of the Patton. It will be interesting to see how it performs. i wonder how the price will compare to the T4.
I love the different wheel size options, but the weight is still out of control. I love the speed and range benefits of my Master, but more often than not it's more fun to ride my S18 simply due to how easy it is to just throw into the car, it's agility, handling, comfy ride, etc. There's a completely different fun factor to a 50lb wheel, and with such a saturation of 75-100lb options already out there, I'd like to see a push towards more fun lightweight options. I'm hoping solid state batteries will really help push that front.
just done a test ride on the Patton what an amazing wheel I uploaded a few UA-cam videos can't wait for more reviews this thing is this year's top wheel maybe
Our videographer is editing it our review right now. It’s an absolutely amazing wheel!
Interesting. My prediction is we’ll see a 126v version of begode t4 this summer, at a lower cost than the patton. 😂
And at a lower quality in every way, too ;)
@@lukastanasiuk5722 If you drive fast enough, the low quality can't catch up ;p
Any idea when it will be released?
Likely the fall
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Awesome! I’m pumped for this one. Price will be the key though. I would pay a max of about $2300 for a wheel like this.
It will naht be cheeep
@@lukastanasiuk5722 I figured 😭
Even the 100v T4 with worse suspension and… Begode quirks costs $2400 in North America. I’m guessing $3500 retail.
@@philamonhemstreet8632 yeah I don’t think the T4 is selling that well though. V12’s are down to like $1800-2000 USD. 3500 for a 16” 2200wh wheel seems too high but idk. I’d rather have an S22 pro for less.
You can dream, but that's all it will be.
🤩 this looks really cool that’s a lot of rage looks great
sooo a s22 mixed with a 16x? sounds awesome! i hope it has a smart bms but i don’t have high hopes for that
Totally! No SmartBMS unfortunately.
@@eeveescan’t win em all but 126 volt, 3000w, 16 inch with suspension sounds like a dream!
If you follow the trend, companies should be building a 70 mph capable wheel this year. In 2026 there will be a 100 mph capable wheel.
It's not crazy when you consider some scooters go 90 mph TODAY. (Edit: Standing Scooters)
Still have my 16X and I still like it, 16" of course but with good range, reliable, tolerant of poor conditions. No suspension, but I use it for the road. I have the S18 as well but now we are talking 18" and less range. So this wheel is up against the T4 I guess, but I still would compare it with the 16X in respect to what I would do with it.
@@Scifi_Ape Very similar to the 16X in many ways. I have never ridden the 18XL, if I had a criticism, I would say the 18XL tyre width of 2.5" instead of the 16X tyre width of 3" was not so good.
What is that little handle on the side
I would like to see some smaller wheels come out. These conflicting specs make it hard to imagine the size of this thing.
It's always exciting to see a new wheel however I would appreciate it more if the company would improve the wheel which they just released a couple months ago. The one knock that I have against all the companies is they just keep releasing Wheels, when the wheel they just came out with has numerous problems.
I feel you regarding all the new wheels. This is something Veteran has been pretty good about. It’s one wheel per year and they don’t compete with each other. Sherman Max, Sherman-S, Veteran Abrams, Veteran Patton.. all different sizes that target different types of riders. Now Begode on the other hand….
haha AMEN!
This might have good torque but I'm not sure if it can compete with the master but maybe veteran is normally good
I think it'll give it a run for it's money torque-wise. A 16" wheel automatically gets more torque because of the wheel size.
My regular v1 s22 is my favorite wheel. Now with upgraded slider wheels, 3rd motor, 2nd charger, broken shock mounting bolts, and it is worth every bit of time, trouble, and money I've spent on it. My only thing I'd like to see improved is a 3200wh instead of 2220wh battery pack. S22 just feels perfect when riding. I'd like to see more competition on this field. Sounds like this wheel may be just that.
We both know it won't trump the S22 :P
How many inch is the s22 tyre compared to this?
@Happyantix , 20 supposedly, including tread. 14 x 2.75 rim. This is only 16 inches. 4 less. Though v12ht is only 16 and it can jam nicely, as well as t4.
@@trowland9575 I guess for off road the bigger the tyre the better
The Inmotion V12HT at 69lbs is the perfect weight for a "16 wheel. So happy I got that wheel as my first wheel at 5'11 235lbs. So much torque and acceleration. Dunno if it would be possible to include a "good" suspension and keep it at 70lbs with the superior kind of build quality like the V12 possesses. Ahh well, one can dream. Who knows though, the Patton might feel super nimble and maybe even stable at higher speeds. The perfect "16 inch wheel though is a V12HT with good suspension at 70lbs. (:
Awesome! I saw these for sale on Ali but wasn't sure if it was real or not. This seems like a Begode T4 competitor. Except I think we all know it's going to be the best trail wheel on the market. I might buy one to sit next to my pending Sherman S. 🙂
Ali link/screencaps?
I think the T4 is still a better wheel for off-road because of its lighter weight, better clearance, and more nimble tire.
sketch
I want one
Every new wheel release excites me. But, kinda strange making a 16” with 126v while their 18” is 100v. If it has same suspension as the S, I will probably be interested but not a huge fan of 16” tires anymore. Thanks guys!
Looking forward to seeing what they do with this design as I'm in the market now for a 16in wheel and can't decide between the T4 and V12 HT. Any suggestions for a 6'4 265÷ rider? Thanks! And keep coming out with the great reviews and news!
As a taller rider, I would recommend the V12 HT over the T4. It's a taller wheel and would be more comfortable for you. The T4 doesn't seem like it would support you as well based on your size.
@@eevees thank you!
@@eevees Went with the V12 HT and LOVE it great suggestion! I'm out riding now when only a few weeks ago I couldn't imagine being able to do this now I'm hooked. Keep up the great content.
Curious to see how this stacks against the rumoured inmotion v14
Gonna be epic! In the rendering on screen, what is near the front toe box on the side? Looks like a kickstand coming off the front lol
It appears to be a kickstand but we actually don't quite know yet
I like that they are joining the 126 volt category. However, this is something they should have done with the Sherman-S imo, and I think they could have 100 volt this 16 inch. A 16 inch wheel is something I would want, but this isn't it. It will have a 5 to 6k CAD price tag, and the s22 is better.
They could have done that with the S.
But they can also sell a lot of S models and in the future make a 126v successor and sell high numbers again to all the people wanting to upgrade. Euc consumers are middle aged tech savvy guys so their wallets should be milked as much as possible:)
too heavyyy...... sigh. please IM and KS get their 16" offerings under 60lbs.
Or better yet, Kingsong put the 2200w 84V motor in a 14D. Call it a 14X, and keep the software speed lock at 31mph (because that's way into sketchy stability territory on a 14" anyway, keep the headroom high). That would likely make Begode announce their MCM6 they've been holding off on too.
We need more power in these practical form factor/easy to manage/ throw-on-the-front-seat type machines.
I predict it will be a contender on trail races.
Owning the Sherman S even at 100v, i love this type of suspension. This is something I'm excited about. This will probably replace my T4, and at 126v will probably have better top speed
That's a heavy wheel! I wonder why it'll be so heavy for a 16" wheel? Suspension + magnesium shelling
so glad i waited!
I heard a T4 134v is coming, not sure how reliable that info is though
Cool wheel. 126v sherm s when?
I'm guessing next year
@@eevees sickkkk!
Best new of the YEAR!!!!! Put one on the side for me !!!!!!
It seems clear that the quality of Leaperkim is recognized by everyone and there are enough people who would like something smaller from this company, so I do not understand why they insist on making only tanks. For people who want last generation big wheels there are a few, for those who want midsize only the v12, which has no suspension, and the T4, which to me doesn't offer much security for being Begode.
Something similar in battery and motor to the v11 with new technology and the suspension of the s18 or the sherman s, would be the perfect versatile wheel for city and small outings to the countryside. The only way to stay under 30kg while maintaining build quality is to assume the battery and motor can't be huge. Many of us don't care about big numbers because we don't need them. Let's hope that Inmotion and Kingsong dare to reduce weight.
Probably will be the torquest wheel currently. However, 50-60 miles of range is kind off not enough. 80-100 range would be perfect.
I doubt we’ll ever get 80-100 miles of range on a 16” wheel but maybe one day.
id buy one but want a more powerful sherman s with higher top speed also :)
I see the appeal, but love my Master as my trail wheel, and don’t want to drop down to 16”.
Everyone is hating on 100+lbs wheels that actually have 3600wh (EX30 specifically getting railed by many reviewers @101lbs), but you get a 16" wheel with way less battery at 89lbs and everyone is excited lol I'm curious how their first over 100v wheel comes out, but that is stupid heavy for a 16" wheel. T4 is 70 lbs, and Master is under 80lbs with more battery.
It's the top free spin speed
Will it be the same style suspension as the Sherman-S?
Yes
Great vid as usual guys! I'm def more interested in the custom bits you have on your SS though.. Any details?
Custom bits you say?
@@eevees the SS in the forefront of the vid looks different..
I was hoping for great suspension replacement of my V12HT, but the weight of this new wheel is ridiculous. T4 is 10kg lighter, S22 is 5kg lighter (and has same battery and much bigger tire).
I don't understand how it is going to weigh that much.
win 🏅 🏆
Why is this wheel so heavy if the battery is so small?
Our guess is that suspension and metal shell are beeeefy
Looks great, I am just very disappointed about the weight!!!!
You lost me at 89lbs. That’s just too heavy for a tiny little 16” - hopefully they prove me wrong!
All metal body should make it quite durable but adds weight for sure. It turns out the weight is a bit off. Actual weight is 86lb… still quite heavy obviously haha
@@eevees yah hmmm, the numbers don’t add up to me. Making a less capable wheel that’s almost as heavy as the Sherman S seems weird. I assume this model was intended to provide more variety in their lineup.
I am of mind set that a 16 inch wheel should weigh no more 70lbs and be nimble. It should be able to be carried up/down upstairs, easily lifted into a car, etc. Wrong direction to go for a 16inch wheeel.
I’m hoping that the reasoning is it’s built like an actual tank and can take a beating. I’d take the extra weight for something that can really be put through it’s paces
Post the new Patton video
It’s being edited as I type this. Coming later this week 🙏
@@eevees yay!
t4 isn’t 84v. It’s 100v
Yeah, I know. Slip of the tongue. We edited the video to show a little note at that part but it’s easily missed unfortunately
Seems like a fat- arse wheel with a wide tyre in a smaller package. Wouldnt say its going to be small and nimble!Dont know about this for a trail wheel!
There's a "bd7" on ALi which is a 16" fat AF tyre 35kg EUC nobody seems to talk about.
These 40kilos wheels are a blight for the market. Who tf would want a wheel this fast and this heavy on such a small tyre with even less battery than v13..
Excited but 2200wh 16” @ 89 pounds…
Where’s the weight?
Motor and batteries.
The suspension is pretty beefy and the body is looking pretty solid too
The weight of an entire communities' expectations and hopes
@@lukastanasiuk5722 That’s a pretty clever response 😜 ✌️
I'm hoping the weigh went to the motor, very heavy and made for high torque. Otherwise I doubt it's worth it.
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Selling my Sherman s for this to save a few pounds when it comes out 😍😘
Specs on this wheel does not make any sense at all...
Get a 20" instead with more battery and less weight.
That's like saying a 7 seat car is always better. It isn't for couples with no kids.
Not everybody wants or needs a big battery.
I agree on the weight though.
Isn't it the one framed at the bottom right, right? Almost covers your face 😂
Yeah, it's a PNG sticked there hahaha Man it looks good!!
Im using #VOLT INU to buy all my new EUC if i sold now i could buy 2 sherman s and i only invested $2300 = ) 30 days ago = ) but volt is going to be so big the bullrun is starting = )
It's actually worse than I predicted. I said begode will have the full lineup out before everyone else gets anything out. And begode will have V2 out.
Also, guys it's OK that you personally like Veteran, bud do understand they price em way more. And for a lot of us blue collar workers...we'll you only got so much to spend each year. And we have no issues fixing stuff if we get a wheel with same or better performance for a 1k$ less, or 30% less. Not small figures lads. If you have the money it's nice to get quality, but if you don't, you take what you can get
Freakin hilarious! SS comes out & 100v is da best thing since sliced bread & all one would ever need. Everything above is "dangerous". Now that LK is going 126v, its no longer dangerous but instead dangerously fun 🤣. I get dealers want to sell wheels but it ain't smart to snort your own junk & think everyone else in the room is stupid. Personally I dont know if the Patton will be a hit or a miss but I can safely say that I for one, am not into a 90lb 16". Kinda defeats the whole point of going small. IMO YMMV & all that stuff ofcos
I have you know, eWheels was pushing the S22 to stick to 100v. Also, we are not dogmatic people. We have always been open. Chillllll my dude ✌️
Oh god the talking heads are back. So kidding. Great video!! 😂
Qu'est ce que c'est?
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16inch wheels is not it for 40+ miles per hr I’m man who prefer 20inch tires for tat kinda of speeds
So there are two military tanks named Patton, however Patton is a terrible name, because even though General Patton was also a military figure, he died from a blood clot that was caused by a car accident.
It's good it's a 16" wheel with suspension, & it's 126v, but it needs to come with a street tire or a street knobby tire option. Changing a tire on a out the box EUC is getting really old.
16" and 40+ kg... you lost me there.... makes no sense
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So proud of u
Releasing a new wheel in the fall is silly
It's smart. Whole winter real life test-dummies can risk their lives to find the weak spots. Come summer they have a reliable offering.
Wtf 40kg. Is it joke? Who and why will buy 40kg 16inches. It's heavier that s22, lol. As for me, completely useless and pointless wheel. Will keep my T4
Still showcasing those massively unsafe TSG helmets, though I’m not surprised how people bend to the big $$
They are not unsafe at legal riding speeds in our city. However, if you're going to go fast, DOT helmets are recommended. You'll be pleased to know that we go over this in our next EX30 review video and will be getting Simpson DOT motorcycle helmets in soon to sell.
@@eevees you shouldn’t be promoting any helmet that CANNOT handle an impact that the products your selling are capable of. Your exceptionally arrogant and irresponsible on this subject.
@@skampster We sell more than just EUCs. We sell low speed electric scooters and Onewheel’s. The TSG Pass Pro is made for downhill long boarding and certified for downhill mountain biking. Sufficient for most of our customers. We hear you and are adding products to our lineup to address it. Thank-you for your concern.
My wife was wearing an S1 helmet, simply doing 25kph on an InMotion Si, she hit a bump in the road, face planted, broke 6 ribs, her clavicle and on top, got a bleed in the brain. That particular helmet is actually rated for that speed, but still had issues. EUC crashes are far more Dangerous than scooters, you should only be encouraging everyone to wear proper motorcycle grade full face helmets for all EUC riders.
@@skampster I’m sorry to hear about your wife. We have had customers come in and bring in their TSG Pass after a crash and told us that it saved their life. This has happened on more than one occasion. The fact is some customers aren’t going to wear a heavy motorcycle helmet on a scooter or even an EUC so the TSG Pass or Fox ProFrame are better than no helmet at all and much better than a non full-face bike helmet. I’m not going to sit here and argue with you anymore but I guarantee if we didn’t sell TSG Passes, we would have way more customer injuries.
Too big and heavy. 90 lbs and 3000WHr is not what I am looking for in a trail wheel.
Looks like I’ll be keeping my eyes peeled for a v14, or settling for a T4.
Introducing Veteran Julius Caesar S
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Veteran Genghis Khan S lol
Hyped for this wheel! Been looking forward to a sturdy, reliable smaller wheel with advanced suspension system and performance!
Sounds like you want an S22, son ;)
@@lukastanasiuk5722 the s22 is a 20 inch wheel g
nothing small about it. it will still be wide and tall.
@@Kay0Bot I still expect it to be more nimble, light and agile than compared to a Sherman S or Master on dirt tracks and jumps, which would be perfect
Seems they went all out on the specs, but sacrificed the weight. I am not sure who this wheel appeals to. Taking a 89lbs wheel to the trails will be quite a challenge. Those who want a lightweight 16" wheel will have to look elsewhere. I guess we'll see what this wheel brings to the table, but im taking more of a sit back and wait approach
I heard it will be 18" wheel
next evolution will be a 50kg 14´´ wheel... for fu## sake...
Just wait till they show 100kg e-skates:D With a battery to drive to Beijing and back:)
Deal breaker weight for me. I have a Sherman S which I love that I have put 1,175km on so far. For a lighter/smaller wheel I currently have a V12HT. The Veteran Patton could potentially have made a better smaller/lighter wheel than the V12HT with the suspension and bigger battery - BUT, that weight with that battery capacity . . . Sorry, no. That is just too heavy for a 2,200Wh 16" wheel. I don't even need 126V, my 100V Sherman S has enough speed & power for me and I love the range I get. Maybe I'll wait for better battery tech so that I can replace the V12HT with something just as good on range/power/speed but lighter.
16-inch tire? Whew, sounds like were finally coming back from the "stupid big expensive heavy wheel" categories to more reasonable ones... I really don't want to see 4 different wheel that cost over 3000 bucks be released back to back anymore
I was having difficulty accepting the prices, and the impractical sizes of the new entries. This will be a breath of fresh air, especially from a brand that’s well respected. I am all in.
Secondly, if no one ever expressed their appreciation for this channel, I would like to be the first. The quality of this channel is second to none. Even though you are beholden to keeping your doors open, I can’t help but to recognize your passion and concern for the community at-large. Thank you for being the heartbeat of our beloved EUCS.
Thanks for the kind words Stan!! It means a lot to us.
As a person that has never possessed a driver's license, but has thousands of hours cycling experience, this mode of transportation would be absolutely life changing.
16 inch wheel has me skeptical, I'm not a fan of the smaller form factor. 🤔
126V for 16" is a bad idea.. small wheels is unstable at high speeds, compared to bigger wheels, so 100V is enough, as and Sherman S is powrfull
I think a 16 wheel with a "great" suspension would be a very good wheel. Maybe the Patton might be that wheel.
Are you folks going to order batch one🤔.
Cheers
We always get a small batch of batch 1 wheels but play it safe on massive orders for first batch products.
Still wish veteran would remake the Abrams into an Abrams Max, had high hopes for the Abrams.
When will your new video come out. Testing the Euc’s off-road abilities?
16 inch wheels are wobble machines at that speed. Whatever happened to the 19 inch wheels?
I've heard that the S is a nightmare to change the tire - I wonder if this one will be just as bad.
I wonder how does it compared to Sherman S?
heavy 16".. what are they thinking
Love it
The weight though on a 16'? thats gonna be interesting to see how it handles. anyways shout out to you guys I came in your shop about 2 weeks ago,probably dont remember me I just passed by (black guy, from the island, owns a v8f) hope your repair shop is going good.
I wish they will come out in two versions. A heavy fast one and a lighter one about 30kg and speeds 75 or 80kmh, maybe 2000wh battery, 100v or 126v. It should have a mudgard and a Stand like Sherman S. The T4 was a turn off because it has no Stand or kick stand the practicality a true commuter needs.
90lbs!?! That does not sound like the light weight maneuverable 16” suspension wheel I was hoping for. I hear good things about the Sherman suspension but it may be adding too much weight compared to the other suspension types.
Sounds cool can’t wait to see it, sounds a tad heavy for trails and jumps… I might have missed it in the video… did you guys mention the suspension style? I’m guessing like the Sherman s right?
⁉️Is it 16???or 18?? The details on Eevee's site says it has a 18x3 inch tire.
It’s an 18” tire mounted on a 12” rim. It’s the same as the T4 or V12. Will feel like a 16” wheel
@@eevees 💡ahhh ok, got it 👌