Nazi SS Leader's Pistol! | Gottlob Berger | WW2 Walther PP 7.65mm | Walk-in Wednesday

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  • Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
  • Welcome to another Walk-In Wednesday! Today, Tom shows us a pistol commissioned by Gottlob Berger, a leader of the Waffen SS during the Nazi's reign in WW2. Gottlob commissioned the manufacture of these pistols, had them engraved, and gave them to his friends. It is estimated that 10-15 of these pistols were made. VERY RARE! The engraved inscription on the slide reads, "In Treuer Kameradschaft". The English translation is loosely, "In Loyal Comradery". This particular pistol is beautiful, high-polish example. It's Tom birthday, so I think he'll keep this one as an early present!

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  • @jeepgeek1
    @jeepgeek1 5 років тому +32

    Hold on, hold on, hold on...... Guys, you normally do a great job with your research but you messed this one up...... The photo you posted at 9:38 in the Video is NOT Gottlob Berger but the commander of the 3rd SS Division Theodor Eicke....... He is the man who personally shot Ernst Rohm in his prison cell during the night of the long knives..... He was killed February 26 1943 when his observation plane was shot down. They look similar but not the same man.........

    • @thomaswhiteman4261
      @thomaswhiteman4261 5 років тому +5

      Thanks Matt, and good eye. You are correct and not many would know that bit of trivia. Not to pass the buck but let's blame Google as it pulled this photo up on a search for Berger. But again, you are correct.

    • @thomaswhiteman4261
      @thomaswhiteman4261 4 роки тому +2

      Got it . Thanks

    • @kennethrouse7942
      @kennethrouse7942 4 роки тому +2

      Matt Littlepage, you are spot on! 👍

  • @johnmorton6512
    @johnmorton6512 4 роки тому +4

    Beautiful hand gun. It’s amazing that anything can survive so many years and still retain such a high luster finish.

  • @nathanmatzen3700
    @nathanmatzen3700 5 років тому +10

    At 09:53 the Obergruppenfuhrer shown is Theodore Eicke, not G.B.

    • @JRCinKY
      @JRCinKY 4 роки тому

      That's what I thought too. Now. There's a Bad Ass for you.

  • @paulhowell4433
    @paulhowell4433 3 роки тому +2

    Tom the 2nd photo is a picture of Theodore Icke Lt. General of the 3rd SS Totenkopf

  • @sjalana1
    @sjalana1 4 роки тому +1

    Happy birthday keep going love your show.

  • @alexfish3120
    @alexfish3120 4 роки тому +3

    9:38 that's a pretty unfortunate confusion, that's Obergruppenführer Theodor Eicke, one of the people directly involved in orchestrating the holocaust, he was a camp inspector, not Obergruppenführer Gottlob, the front lines general

  • @robertdeen8741
    @robertdeen8741 Рік тому +1

    By my reckoning, a comrade isn't always a friend and a friend not always a comrade.
    A comrade is a person you fight with. Can trust your life with, but you may not like them.
    Anyway, that's the way it was explained to me.

  • @jcmontecarlo6123
    @jcmontecarlo6123 2 роки тому +1

    Would you prefer an American war criminal’s gun instead ?

  • @stevest.martin3940
    @stevest.martin3940 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the story you have a very cool gun, I love Walther’s and own a PPKs.

  • @davidabell2020
    @davidabell2020 5 років тому +8

    Happy Birthday Tom. No I can't get enough of this stuff. Keep it coming.

  • @stoneblue1795
    @stoneblue1795 4 роки тому +4

    I had a gym teacher too that was a bit of a Nazi, but it was like 25 years after the war ended.

  • @jimrodriguez8047
    @jimrodriguez8047 4 роки тому +1

    Very interesting and well told! Thank you!

  • @davidcox9371
    @davidcox9371 5 років тому +7

    Happy birthday Tom! Love these videos for the history and as a PPK owner.

  • @duartesimoes508
    @duartesimoes508 4 роки тому +2

    I have a PP as beautiful as this one, only mine was made in the seventies in Ulm and is .22 LR, about the only handgun caliber an ordinary citizen can own in Portugal. I Bought it second hand and it looks unfired. Still, I wouldn’t trade it for a Porsche. Great video!

  • @hudsondonnell444
    @hudsondonnell444 4 роки тому +1

    During the War Heinrich Himmler gave an order to SS-Brigadeführer Walter Schellenberg head of Sicherheitsdienst Amt IV Ausland-SD to round up Jews and offer them a chance to buy their own freedom. Some 7,000 Jews were bussed to the Swiss border and marched across it in a one time mercy mission. At the Nuremberg trials Schellenberg was a chief witness against many of the highest ranking Nazis that were charged for war crimes. As he was a more ardent Catholic than a Nazi it became known that he was a spoke in the wheels of the SS-SD operations in Nazi controlled Europe and abroad. There were many anti-Semitic Nazis that took a pragmatic approach to the NSDAP's policy of the Final Solution. Another one of them, was SS-Oberst-Gruppenführer Josef "Sepp" Dietrich who would continuously turn away, from the direct vicinity of his front line Waffen-SS troops during Operation Barbarossa Einsatzgruppen kill squads. These squads, under the direction of SS-DD Obergruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich, and later his successor Ernst Karltenbrunner, were tasked with liquidating Jews and Communist leaders in areas that were captured during the war in the Eastern front. Sepp Dietrich although a die-hard Nazi thought of the Final Solution as a mad overstepping of rational behavior by the Nazi hierarchy, and wanted nothing to do with it, mostly because he believed that victory was never sure.

  • @redram5150
    @redram5150 4 роки тому +5

    The three stooges were Jewish. It would be more than a bit ironic

  • @SeanieVoiceOver
    @SeanieVoiceOver 4 роки тому +2

    I have concerns about this! freeze frame at 01:20
    On the slide the first P in "Mod pP" looks poorly engraved and misplaced rather than stamped

  • @jeraldo211
    @jeraldo211 4 роки тому +2

    Gottlob Berger---In the Spring 2020 issue of Military Heritage magazine is a great article and photo of Gottlob Berger. The Article is "Last Stand in Berlin"..It talks about Berger getting together the last group of Waffen SS to fight the Russians in Berlin.
    Thank You for your great videos and extensive research that you have done. Jerry

  • @Gumbypotty
    @Gumbypotty 4 роки тому +2

    Interesting. But his name was Gottlob Berger, not Gattlab Burger. ;-)

  • @motor4027
    @motor4027 4 роки тому

    In Benicia California I went to an antique shop called antiques on first. There they had a letter adressed to Herman Goering talking about the four year plan. I don't know if it was over priced or underpriced but it costs $350. Maybe this will help your business. I went there very recently and I know it is still there.

    • @motor4027
      @motor4027 4 роки тому

      One more thing it is dated January 1938 signed by ziegler SA brigadierfuhrer. Again I hope this is rare or valuable so you can sell it on legacy collectibles. You can maybe even include it with a gun. I love your channel keep making great videos.

  • @TheScottishoats
    @TheScottishoats 4 роки тому +2

    "In treuer Kameradschaft" means "IN LOYAL CAMARADERIE"

  • @andibauer3177
    @andibauer3177 3 роки тому +1

    You showed a photo Theodor Eicke , there are a lot of confusions about him in your video. And he had not a lot to do with the Waffen SS .

    • @LegacyCollectibles
      @LegacyCollectibles  3 роки тому +1

      You are correct that we made a mistake on the photo. Thanks.

  • @gencosjsj6213
    @gencosjsj6213 4 роки тому +3

    My favorite gun👍

  • @zxtenn
    @zxtenn 4 роки тому +1

    NOBODY can ever tell me that they didn't know what was going on, I am German and watch some historic Hitler and WW2 vids but I cant imagine anyone except possibly an average citizen not knowing certain things

  • @0BAAC0
    @0BAAC0 5 років тому +2

    Er... Now I think my birthday sucked.

  • @KissakiShinobi
    @KissakiShinobi 2 роки тому +1

    Great story! Awesome handgun! I'd wish the gun laws in Germany would be less restrictive and I could own one of these!

  • @stephensellers2453
    @stephensellers2453 4 роки тому +1

    Did any of these guns belong to Hogan or klink. I saw it on tv

  • @AdamosDad
    @AdamosDad 4 роки тому +1

    Very nice birthday present. I had to satisfy my Walther PP needs with a 1963 Austrian police officers MANURHIN WALTHER PP 7.65.

  • @shawnmoffitt1857
    @shawnmoffitt1857 5 років тому +2

    Happy Birthday. Always look forward to your videos.

  • @igorsvacic217
    @igorsvacic217 4 роки тому +1

    He wasnt in death camps, not once, he wasnt sentenced to 25 years, he was sentenced to ten, served 2/3rds, i.e. 6 and a half.
    After he wasnt "laying low", he wrote for Nation Europa

  • @herbwag6456
    @herbwag6456 4 роки тому +2

    You said that Hitler presented some guns. We're they signed by him like this one by Berger or what?

  • @ar6985
    @ar6985 5 років тому +2

    Happy Birthday!
    Nice gift!
    Berger sorta looks like the old Hollywood character actor Sig Ruman. Google his image from the old Jack Benny picture "To Be or Not To Be." 1942. UA-cam won't let me paste a photo in the comment section.

  • @markruggiero3047
    @markruggiero3047 4 роки тому

    Walther PPK 390012 k with holster & magazine / polished finish / good condition / what’s it worth?
    910 270 2900

  • @terrystephens1102
    @terrystephens1102 4 роки тому +1

    Congratulations on your excellent presentation and, happy birthday 👌👏👏👏👏

  • @davedavidson2833
    @davedavidson2833 2 роки тому

    @Legacy Collectibles. Love your site but I must point out that in the above video at about 9:40 that isn't Berger, it's Obergruppenführer Theodor Eicke who was a member of the Totenkopf or Deaths Head Division. Killed in a plane crash.

  • @RicardoRMedina
    @RicardoRMedina 4 роки тому +3

    Die fotografien bis 09:53 ist nich Gottlob Berger, ist Theodore Eicke.

    • @TheYjmfan
      @TheYjmfan 4 роки тому

      I have that very photo well spotted I new that was Theodore Eicke

    • @LegacyCollectibles
      @LegacyCollectibles  4 роки тому +1

      Yes. We realize that we made a mistake on that.

  • @chrisvenning4021
    @chrisvenning4021 3 роки тому

    I have a Walther PPK 7.65 mm serial # 303984K .It has an Eagle with an H under it on the barrel and slide. On the other side it has another # N8A558
    under MOD, PPK . I have the Holster that it came with like the ones you showed on your U Tube re PPK,s but there are no markings inside the flap or
    on the back. I was told that the Canadian soldier who got it off a German Pilot after his plane made a forced landing. I have one Mag with the serial #
    the same as the PPK. Please advise anything you can tell me about this handgun. Thank you Chris

  • @shvenfoster
    @shvenfoster 4 роки тому +1

    I was thinking J.Edgar Hoover

  • @georgeincredible4509
    @georgeincredible4509 5 років тому +3

    Happy birthday

  • @darrellenglish6283
    @darrellenglish6283 4 роки тому +1

    The Photo with the 3 Stooges was not Begger..It was Eika early Head of the Camps

  • @noangel3652
    @noangel3652 4 роки тому

    I just hope you didn’t pay to much for this gun with a signature of one of Germany’s worst assholes

  • @sjalana1
    @sjalana1 Рік тому

    I wish I have one 9m/m for protection only 😔.

  • @TheYjmfan
    @TheYjmfan 4 роки тому +1

    Great story really interesting enjoyed listening to you, do you know anything regarding nazi documents?

    • @LegacyCollectibles
      @LegacyCollectibles  4 роки тому

      Not really. Just documents about a gun such as capture papers or presentation documents.

  • @TheYeti308
    @TheYeti308 2 роки тому

    Love em or hate em , If you like the gun , ya gotta give the man behind it , his props .

  • @robertrishel3685
    @robertrishel3685 4 роки тому +1

    Really glad I came across your channel! Great stuff! Well researched.

  • @AdamosDad
    @AdamosDad 4 роки тому +1

    Funny, he comes to Hollywood and becomes a Jew.

  • @edzwicker2854
    @edzwicker2854 2 роки тому

    The photo at 9:39 is Theodore Eicke, not Gottlob Berger

  • @Achromaticdj
    @Achromaticdj 5 років тому +2

    Happy birthday

  • @Boots25
    @Boots25 3 роки тому

    Happy birthday 🥳🎉🎉🎇🎉🎈🎈🎈

  • @hoviggh
    @hoviggh Рік тому

    Actually in my view the signature says " J Ruger" not " G Berger". Anyway it's a nice piece, I like the holsters as well.

    • @SnoopyDoofie
      @SnoopyDoofie Рік тому +1

      I'm half German. My mother's old German handwriting looked like that. It is very hard to tell the difference between m, n and u. It could be Ruger or Berger. But I agree, it probably is J Ruger. I had an inlaw named J Ruger.

  • @daytonwintle6051
    @daytonwintle6051 4 роки тому +1

    Any relation to Donnie Burger?

    • @LegacyCollectibles
      @LegacyCollectibles  4 роки тому +1

      I know his Son and grandkids are still alive and well in Germany

  • @davidramirez4615
    @davidramirez4615 4 роки тому

    Looking like Vladimir putin..lol

  • @solitarywanderer9786
    @solitarywanderer9786 4 роки тому

    Sry, I meant to write: IN TREUER KAMERADSCHAFT. Anyhow, the starting letter must be a capital I, not a J. J is pronounced differently in German.

  • @sjalana1
    @sjalana1 4 роки тому

    The best pistols in the world Germans pp/k 380.wish I have my foid card renewed.

  • @chrisvenning4021
    @chrisvenning4021 3 роки тому

    I Just looked more carefully at the Holster and all I can see on the front of the second flap is DRGM . Thanks again Cheers Chris

  • @geraldjensen9399
    @geraldjensen9399 4 роки тому

    Walther PP
    Barrell length ?
    Overall length ?

  • @SuperSonofsatan
    @SuperSonofsatan 4 роки тому

    Only a coward would surrender after all he did...

  • @tritop
    @tritop 4 роки тому

    instead of "In treuer Kameradschaft" they engaved "Jn treuer Kameradschaft" with a J instead of a I . That error could never ever happened

    • @tritop
      @tritop 3 роки тому

      ​@ghgg you are right; they used it in "Fraktur-Schrift" and in "Sütterlin" ; and just found out sometimes also in the " oldish Blockschrift " too; ashaming that I did not know, but, I am 60 and I have never seen it written in Blockschrift like on the Walther

  • @andrewward7042
    @andrewward7042 4 роки тому +2

    It's pronounced VA-FEN, not WAF-EN,

  • @ahmet42selim65
    @ahmet42selim65 4 роки тому

    Happpybirthday

  • @JRCinKY
    @JRCinKY 4 роки тому +3

    I just came by one of these PPs last week. Plain old WW 2 gun but I love it.

    • @thomaswhiteman4261
      @thomaswhiteman4261 4 роки тому +1

      When you say you just "came by one". Do you mean a Berger inscribed PP or, a wartime Walther?
      Thanks.

    • @JRCinKY
      @JRCinKY 4 роки тому +2

      @@thomaswhiteman4261 NO. i wish. Just a plain old run of the mill 85% PP made in 44, but i love it

  • @roccoracer
    @roccoracer 5 років тому +2

    I have a presentation M1895 Nagant revolver I would love to have researched my a professional like you.

    • @thomaswhiteman4261
      @thomaswhiteman4261 5 років тому

      Go to our website and send me some photos, serial number, etc. I can see if we can come up with anything. Obviously I know more about the German guns.

  • @peterwassink
    @peterwassink 3 роки тому

    talking about a stooge... please read the caption before you pluck an image from wikipedia... that is Theodor Eicke. (@ 9:41) Also what you call " having a little fun" comes across as shady ethics to me...making light of warcriminals
    This puts your info in to discredit.

  • @solitarywanderer9786
    @solitarywanderer9786 4 роки тому

    ''Jn treuer Kameradschaft'' is orthographically wrong. IN TREUER FREUNDSCHAFT would be correct. Using the J at the beginning ? Which language did the embellisher of that gun try to imitate? And who wrote the first P in PP with an electric scribe? Shelling out ANY kind of money for this piece of work will result in later headaches.

    • @hannesschwan6284
      @hannesschwan6284 4 роки тому

      First of all Freundschaft has not the same meaning as Kameradschaft in german. The way the upper case letter of „i“ is written as a "J" is absolutely correct and still used to this day. Sometimes we do a little straight line above the „J“ as a serif, but that's rather uncommon.
      As a german I can say this engraving is orthographically authentic.

  • @teamskovhugger8135
    @teamskovhugger8135 4 роки тому

    🤔 if im not wrong this ppk pistol was the service gun of Danish police untill about 1990 i think it was taken out of service because it was no good and police was better of throwing a rock after a crock then fireing this gun ...
    There where so many problems with this gun jammming up all the time failing to eject, and they could hit NOTHING with this gun it would shoot left an right ,up and down just as it liked to do allmost as it gad its own life ...
    It was changed out for the glock gun that danish police have Today.