@@benflint Yeah, the publishing company didn't want to grant Keith Emerson the rights so Keith visited Ginastera in Switzerland with a demo tape. Ginastera actually loved it and said something like Keith's recording sounded like how he hears the piece in his own head and gave his unwavering approval. That said, as someone who grew up on the ELP version, I'm quite blown away by the original also.
They had to, Ginastera didn't want to let them publish their interpretation, so they had to fly from UK to Argentina to make him listen to it, and he only let them because it was really accurate !
Surprised we didn't hear more of Ginastera's music during the centennial of his birth year (2016). Glad Mr. Tiempo and the LA Phils were brave enough to take this on!
@@michelecalia6882 I had the same feeling when listening to this piece initially, but as I was used to Prokofiev dissonance, Ginastera’s eventually came to me in time. This is probably one of my favorite contemporary concertos now.
It's literally a cover and he had to fly to Argentina to convince Ginastera to let them cover it. He could have prevented them, because it's his piece and it's copyrighted.
i love the story of how he annoyed his masters by performing his own work during a graduation competition, and they had no choice but to begrudgingly hand over 1st place, calling him Enfant Terrible
Heard this composers name a couple of times from Keith Emerson in articles. First time hearing this, incredible. I put this mans name up there with Beethoven.
@@オリバーオリバー-e4d No, I'm saying it's impossible to compare the two as they are completely different styles. Could you compare Mozart with Joe Hisaishi on any criterion?
@@JylesM oh yeah I meant this recording, I've exhausted all the other recordings on Spotify haha (and I know this is from a radio broadcast so it would be unlikely to be put on there anyway, but I still wish)
I've read through the piano part several times, and the only bits that seemed totally unplayable as written were those 32nd note quasi-trill sixths in the second movement, and the last cluster chord in the left hand, which is too far away from the previous chord to get to it in time. By the way, for some reason, I have the idea that that final chord was supposed to be both forearms smashing into the keyboard, but I can't remember why I think so.
Yes, and you can hear the South American influence in the rhythm and repetition if you pay attention, some of his music is a sort of deconstructed atonal/semitonal dance
Okay ! Back to the Rachmaninov 3rd concerto and the Liszt E flat Major concerto. What an incoherent mess of notes all over the score. Abstract to the extreme.
It’s sad that you think that way, Graham. Not because of you don’t liking it, because you’re completely in the right of not liking this music, but in calling it “a mess”, although it’s as structural as a Mozart piece is.
@@alejandrom.4680 Honestly I like these modern like Ginastera or post modern pieces much more than Mozart's and the mainstream classical world repertoire.
Love that the person in that audience literally could not keep themselves from shouting at the end! Bravo!
hell yeah! We need more classical audiences like that! I went to see the Memphis Symphony play the Rite of Spring and all the tepid applause after.
23:43 I can remember that guy’s cheer infinitely lol
if I'd have given that outburst my friends would have disowned me, but I don't care
23:44 he was living his best life
23:44 That scream is life
I think I speak for all of us when I say, "Holy shit."
especially the very end; it was more intense than some modern action soundtrack
Can we say, a major influence on Keith Emerson?
You sound like that one guy who get pinned on the reminiscences de don juan vid xD
0:00 I. Cadenza e Varienti
8:02 II. Scherzo allucinante
13:27 III. Adagissimo
18:46 Toccata concertata
Thank you. I added to the description.
I can see why he approved of ELP's version, as they captured the insane ferocity so well. An amazing piece whichever version you listen to.
wow he said that?
👏👏👏
@@benflint it's in the liner notes from Brain Salad Surgery
@@benflint Yeah, the publishing company didn't want to grant Keith Emerson the rights so Keith visited Ginastera in Switzerland with a demo tape. Ginastera actually loved it and said something like Keith's recording sounded like how he hears the piece in his own head and gave his unwavering approval. That said, as someone who grew up on the ELP version, I'm quite blown away by the original also.
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wow the recording picked up my real time reaction all the way from my house
Really hearing some Bartok in the final movement!
snap, and some Prokofiev sprinkled here and there
sounds like opening to Miraculous Mandarin
There a Beethoven moment or two in the third movement.
Mandarin has entered the room 😳
An ultimate masterpiece. I love the fierce and powerful atmospheres around 23:00
This needs to be played more. Yes, the scream was great.
who's going to learn this concerto to never play it again lol
this piece is so savage and untamed... and i love it.
The fourth movement is straight fire
one of the best concertos
Best interpretation of this concerto
Fantastic. The ELP version of the 4th movement is actually really accurate and really does capture the frenetic madness lol :)
They had to, Ginastera didn't want to let them publish their interpretation, so they had to fly from UK to Argentina to make him listen to it, and he only let them because it was really accurate !
This piece was WAY too sophisticated for back in 1961 -- Ginastera's was ahead of his time = ELP translated this PERFECTLY, too
I gragree with this guy who also has songs at @thomquickmusic
Surprised we didn't hear more of Ginastera's music during the centennial of his birth year (2016). Glad Mr. Tiempo and the LA Phils were brave enough to take this on!
That guy screaming in rapture at the end blocked my scream when it was about to erupt
Orgullo nacional argentino. Muchas gracias por compartir. Saludos desde Buenos Aires. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
I have just played the Stravinsky piano concert and after hearing this I have to say that Stravinsky seems easy now.
Loud does not equal difficult.
Brutal, salvaje, extremo, onírico, sensual... una obra maestra.
LMAO I was working on this one so I almost died when I saw this but i'm doing the full score so whew
Great you're doing the full score!
and i was thinking about doing the full score as well, but lucky look what we have here ;)
do you mean you're recreating it on a sequencer, or Cakewalk or something, or actually drafting up the score itself?
@@markpaterson2053 making a score video of it
can't even imagine how you'd achieve that. Do you write the notation from ear?
I can only say we can find so much beauty in chaos... dissonances are so beautiful...
¡Tremendo, espectacular!
This piano is crazy 9:23. I dont understand this music but I love it.
That's all you need to understand, like me. Prokofiev's piano concertos have a near identical effect on me
@@markpaterson2053 I'm in love with prokofiev but I can't understand this concert
@@michelecalia6882 It depends how it hits you; I have a problem with Boulez, people swear by him yet I only ever hear abstract orchestration
@@michelecalia6882 I had the same feeling when listening to this piece initially, but as I was used to Prokofiev dissonance, Ginastera’s eventually came to me in time. This is probably one of my favorite contemporary concertos now.
@@derekkoch8777 try his second one! It’s even better in my opinion (all though not as straightforwardly bombastic)
Keith Emerson's genius is just evident after I listen to Mr. Ginastera (whom, he might have emulated a bit, but who cares!)
It's literally a cover and he had to fly to Argentina to convince Ginastera to let them cover it. He could have prevented them, because it's his piece and it's copyrighted.
Amazing composer 14.53 bar 20 the piano is smoothly introduced again. What magic!!
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wonderful piece and performance!
I heard on a long time ago that was as lousy as this one is good.
Absolutely amazing!
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sounds so good :)
This movement is so "earworm-ish"
@Random Commenter Maybe not completely atonal but it is certainly not very tonal.
@Random Shitposter I’d say its more atonal than tonal. The coda of the concerto is absolutely insane though.
not so convinced by the other three movements, but the last movement is incredible wow
Great to see some Ginastera!!
this has to be one of the most demonic concertos in music history
try Prokofiev's concertos too; there are some similarities in the intensity and bombastic aspect
@@markpaterson2053 At least Prokofiev's have key signatures. 🤣🤣
ha ha, right
@@markpaterson2053 yes indeed, Prokofiev's concertos are genius, I always discover something new when I listen to them
i love the story of how he annoyed his masters by performing his own work during a graduation competition, and they had no choice but to begrudgingly hand over 1st place, calling him Enfant Terrible
Heard this composers name a couple of times from Keith Emerson in articles. First time hearing this, incredible. I put this mans name up there with Beethoven.
Hardly a comparison.
@@stacia6678 You're right. Ginastera's music is way more exciting than Beethoven's.
@@オリバーオリバー-e4d No, I'm saying it's impossible to compare the two as they are completely different styles. Could you compare Mozart with Joe Hisaishi on any criterion?
@@stacia6678 Well I find Joe Hisaishi more enjoyable, so on a personal level yeah I can compare
YES! THANK YOU FOR UPLOADING! The other score video for this got taken down a while ago, such a shame!
ELP me enseñó a conocer a este compositor
De miedo!!!
Alberto Ginastera in absolutely insane. Eva Gevorgyan performed his Sonata 1 at fkn 16.
Does anybody know if Ginastera played on this? I heard that he gave his OK for ELP to do their version. Pretty Wild Stuff.
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Its like an easter egg hunt searching for the comments on the videos you put in your list haha
@@stacia6678 Lmao, so true
5:30 those are the most atmospheric coughs I've ever heard
WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THIS PREFECTION?
last mov so catchy
god i wish this was on spotify
It is! The fourth movement is a little slower, though...
Dora De Marinis performing
@@JylesM oh yeah I meant this recording, I've exhausted all the other recordings on Spotify haha
(and I know this is from a radio broadcast so it would be unlikely to be put on there anyway, but I still wish)
@@xandermark7588 - Why not just listen to it here on UA-cam?
Sublimely ferocious. I am holding my breath.
22:20 los arpegios armónicamente extraños que hace desde este minuto, son orgasmos auditivos
la toccata concertata que tonaliad o modo usa? es dodecafonica o atonal?
0:02 is a good place to start. ^
??????
@@markpaterson2053 he means the whole piece is so good
@@SeigneurReefShark Damn, can't believe I missed that, it was obvious
18:03
I think a dude just lost his left lung to that sneeze
it sounds like prokofiev bartok mash-up
I concur with 23:44
❤
The last movement sounds like boss battle music 😂
ha ha, I just wrote the exact same somewhere. Don't you think all film composers owe EVERYTHING to stuff like this?
What performance/recording is this? Who is performing/conducting?
Gustavo dudamel and Sergio tempo
Is this the Tiempo performance, or another?
Yes, the Tiempo.
@@conde2538 Thank you!
based ginastera
WHAT A BANGER 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Some Lutoslawski in there as well
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18:50
Who is the soloist in this recording? The piece looks very difficult to play for the piano.
oh its unbelieavably difficult
Soloist is Sergio Tiempo
I would like to play this. Looks unplayable as written in some parts
Yes, like those top-speed ascending chromatic thirds in BOTH hands in the second movement 😱
@@erikfreitas7093 Those are far away from top speed for any respectable pianist.
I've read through the piano part several times, and the only bits that seemed totally unplayable as written were those 32nd note quasi-trill sixths in the second movement, and the last cluster chord in the left hand, which is too far away from the previous chord to get to it in time.
By the way, for some reason, I have the idea that that final chord was supposed to be both forearms smashing into the keyboard, but I can't remember why I think so.
It's a classical music.
ok
Good to know
It’s modernist, no?
@@stacia6678 Maybe... but, this musical idea is classical.
@@machida5114 Modernist owe classical a lot. And yes, this does sound classical to me.
so delicious...🙂
Four words, what the actual fuck
It's fucking amazing
¿Esto es argentino en serio?
Of course. Ginastera is regarded as the best Argentinian composer along with Piazzolla.
Yes, and you can hear the South American influence in the rhythm and repetition if you pay attention, some of his music is a sort of deconstructed atonal/semitonal dance
Estabas esperando una cumbia?
Sí papu, de donde nació el 10
Ginastera, Maradona y Gardel.
Atonal?
It's actually serial. For instance, look how the first three tetrachords comprise all twelve tones.
@@ContemporaryClassical Oh, i feel like theres a key center, but i cant describe
@@maffeffe Indeed. It's perfectly possible to create a feeling of a key centre in dodecaphonic music!
@@ContemporaryClassical Oh yeah and anyway, are those staggered chords at the end diminished sevenths?
@@maffeffe Erm no they're not?
6:11 oh wait its f major ^:12 oh wait its not f major
Too many twelve-tone rows! :D
12! = 479,001,600
Ok. Nobody asked, but ok.
@@kgroveringer03 this is mathematically correct according to my piano teacher ;)
what does 12! have to do here lol
@@GUILLOM 12 tones...
@@princianorvz wut
野蛮な協奏曲。。。
Es díabolo!
sound like horror movie tracks
nah
No, if you want horror listen to Xenakis
@@AsrielKujo Kryzstof Penderecki wants to know your location
@@AsrielKujo voile :exists
Xenakis: imma change this word whole meaning
@@lucaslorentz imma this whole word meaning 🥴🥴🥴
Okay ! Back to the Rachmaninov 3rd concerto and the Liszt E flat Major concerto. What an incoherent mess of notes all over the score. Abstract to the extreme.
It’s sad that you think that way, Graham. Not because of you don’t liking it, because you’re completely in the right of not liking this music, but in calling it “a mess”, although it’s as structural as a Mozart piece is.
@@alejandrom.4680 Honestly I like these modern like Ginastera or post modern pieces much more than Mozart's and the mainstream classical world repertoire.
@@yashbspianoandcompositions1042 same lol. it definelitly touches me more.
@@yagiz885 These contemporary pieces for me feel the need to earn more recognition from the audience.
@@yagiz885 I love Penderecki's De natura sonoris no 1 and 2 and the shining soundtrack. Also I love listening to Iannis Xenakis.
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