How far can a Full Map of Each Tier 0-5 Tower Get? (Bloons TD 6)
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
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0:00 - Dart Monkey
8:49 - Boomerang
17:05 - Bomb Shooter
25:08 - Tack Shooter
32:36 - Ice Monkey
35:27 - Glue Gunner
40:21 - Sniper
46:08 - Submarine
51:26 - Buccaneer
56:04 - Ace
1:03:07 - Heli Pilot
1:08:02 - Mortar
1:14:49 - Dartling Gunner
1:21:34 - Wizard
1:26:06 - Super Monkey
1:35:19 - Ninja
1:41:09 - Alchemist
1:45:33 - Druid
1:51:59 - Banana Farm
1:54:02 - Village
1:56:26 - Engineer
2:00:31 - Beast Handler
2:06:38 - Spike Factory
2:15:00 - Final Results (Top 10) - Ігри
I’m running a thumbnail test, Let me know which one you got. Squidward and the inferno ring or Frozone and the ice monkey?👇
i got both
I got squid
Squidward and inferno ring
super suit
Frozone
I don't blame you since it isn't super well known knowledge, but tier 5 bottom row glue gunners actually do massive damage when attacking bloons that already have glue on them, so that would have worked better for this style of test.
That would've been super slow...
@@versuzzero5335 it wouldn't be. Not like you think anyways.
@@versuzzero5335 I mean, it would have eventually lost to one of the early BAD rounds since they don't get slowed.
@@RobBor-ku2rqactually it makes the game crash because of stacking problemsb
@@theinfinitydie1582it would crash very much before 98 maybe even brick
the bomb shooter struggled with ddts because ddts have black bloon's explosion immunity, so only the few in mibs could deal with them
He shouldve placed striker jones somewhere he can't attack so he makes all bomb shooters be able to pop blacks and zebras
@@derk6well yes but the point was for all towers to have the same conditions and that would be a huge advantage.
My main concern with that was that the bomb blitz was the worst of the bomb tier 5's.
@@RetsamXat least for this challenge
@@RetsamX
And he didn’t even use faster shooting blitz’s
@@RetsamXhe used Striker for Mortars though.
Don’t even care if you don’t see this, you’re one of those youtubers that I find once in a blue moon which I love. It’s like rediscovering ISAB again a couple years ago. You managed to have me hooked for 2 straight hours, bravo Neo, bravo. Very excited to see how you go in the future.
@@LiterallyJustOVEN sorry for the late response, thank you!
@@TheNeoGod-I love you
There might be a mod just for this out there somewhere, but the Mega Knowledge mod has two Monkey Knowledge points which let Mortars and Dartlings respectively automatically aim like other towers. You can just turn those two on and leave all the other extra ones off.
I know the darling gunners one upgrade path has independent targeting as a option.
41:44
“‘were going to go for top and middle path” proceeds to click top and bottom
Yeah, also elite sniper does better than both cripple moab and elite defender
But that one sniper 😂
No it doesnt. Are you crazy. Elite sniper has 0 single target damage. Cripple is by far the best with the new splash damage...
I think your missing the joke that he said one thing and did another thing then what he said
@@nekomoves1714 hes either 34 or 6, they talk the same when online
@TheNeoGod you are correct that a lof of rounds past 140 are random. However, the seed is set when you start the run, and is stored to save. Which means retry last round uses the same round.
not to mention that every random round still has about the same RBE (red bloons equivelant)
@ing someone in the comment section doesn't ping them
@@cornucopiac1088 oh thats weird thanks for the headsup
@@iamdaniel471 yeah the real deciding factor is if you get a BAD or a heavy DDDT
rush. After 200 you start getting DBADs and that's when chimps become monkeys
I think the only real exceptions are 163 and 200 iirc
For mortal, middle path is ALWAYS the correct choice. No matter what mortar you build.
And since the burny stuff damage buffs are locked behind tier THREE top path, you didn't get them anyways. So just faster attack speed would've been far superior.
And also, since burny stuff doesn't stack, I'm pretty sure the bottom path mortar was the worst possible choice for this test.
And because of the issue of staggering the shots, I wouldn't have picked top path either.
Middle path shoots so fast that the staggering issue doesn't exist and generally has the best DPS among the mortars usually anyways.
Did you forget bloonineration creates a wall a fire every time it attacks?
The shattering shells also removes fortified properties on all Bloons but bads (ddts aren’t effected if you don’t have monkey knowledge) also make it a good support tower, even for its price, viable in chimps
@@vadimyudkovsky9022
No I didn't forget that. But blooncineration still doesn't get more DPS than the middle path believe it or not. The sheer attack speed is just ridiculous.
People more into this game than me did precise tests on it, which is where I got this opinion from.
So even with the buffs, blooncineration is rarely ever the correct choice sadly, I'd like for it to be better, but unfortunately, there is pretty much never a good reason to use it unless you're on a map where mortars are REALLY good so you just wanna place all tier 5s, because in a normal game you can't spamm the same tier 5 of course.
So in that scenario, like the moon landing map, I would use a blooncineration after I got the other 2 tier 5s.
Although I actually believe it would just be better to spamm artillery batteries because pop and awe passively buffs the bad and boss damage of all artillery batteries, so artillery batteries end up being far more money efficient.
@@ardynizunia9709the only viable reason for having blooncineration for me is just upgrading to blooncineration because you have the money for it even though all you need is shattering shells for its insane scaling being able to strip fortified off of most moab class bloons
@@ardynizunia9709dps? Brother eliminating half of fortified Bloons hp is so much dps
@@Theblindingofissac
So? That is no burny stuff DPS lmao.
Get a shattering shells and LEAVE IT AT THAT. No need to upgrade to blooncineration. Removing fortified is obviously good, but the burn is NOT.
33:39 bro does a time else notice the “breathing” effect happening here? It’s so cool! It looks like all the ice monkeys are breathing or something because there’s a subtle change in their movement.
Next video: How far can a map full of 5-5-5 monkeys go?
I had the same idea lol
His PC will explode
godboosted 5-5-5
@@TheGamingG810 now this is just the end of the universe
I would love to see this
A shame he isnt doing every one, filling the map with 004 helis is the funniest thing.
It's a basically the same thing as the boomerang
@@AvanYT....is the Comanche defense a joke to you?
Dude imagine ultra juggernaut
@@desmondogren6939 Push stuff do damage Same thing
@@desmondogren6939 why do you act like he laughed at your mom's funeral when he said that the stalling power of 45 004 helis would be funny looking
43:18
In Czech, we would say:
"A hundred times nothing killed the donkey."
which I think is pretty fitting, here :D
to answer your question with ninjas late game, they are very good when buffed. their attack speed/pierce is quadrupled with shinobi stacking.
they also only deal 1 damage per projectile, which means that buffing them is really effective. VTSG gives +4 damage among other buffs, permabrew adds +2 damage, and debuffs can amount for up to +13 (glue storm, embrittlement, super brittle, cripple moab)
so take a bloonjitsu, throwing 5 shurikens at a moderate speed, and not only make its attack speed nuts through shinobi stacking/other buffs, but also multiply their damage by up to 20 times.
Bloon Solver was a really bad pick. The glue doesn’t stack, so you would have had practically the same setup as just a couple Bloon Solvers covering the track. Super Glue actually does damage, so stacking it would actually do something different
Wait does super glue do damage to bads, I’m not sure rn?
@@ivanlin9229it does, it just doesn't slow them
@@adamjeviczki3175 oh ok thx for letting me know
sorry I knew it dealt damage but i didn’t know it was per hit, if I knew i would’ve done that one
Yeah but Moab glue doesn’t have any dps so it would basically be a forced tier 5 by round 40
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@@Bigsmilyboythat’s the joke r u sped. Look at bros pfp
Amazing video! Honestly impressive the amount of time you put in, and it was cool to see the results. If this video does well enough that you decide to do it again, here's some recommendations for what tier fives to use:
Glaive Dominus - would look really cool
Tack Zone - might be too laggy, though
Elite Sniper - when crosspathed with the top path, elite sniper has a really solid mix of damage and spread that makes it more than just a cash path. Also, each elite sniper buffs the attack speed of other snipers by 33% - if that bonus stacks, this one could be insane.
Cripple Moab- splash damage could be crazy.
MOAB Eliminator would be ability heavy but cool to see, since MOAB mauler spam is a semi popular strat on its own.
Trade Empire - this one won't do as well, but it's another case where the towers will buff each other. The bonus is compounded if you crosspath into grapeshot.
Sky Shredder would be cool but incredibly laggy, Tsar Bomba would be cool but requires micro.
Comanche Commander could look really cool. Recommend pursuit to avoid headaches.
Pop and Awe would require micro but buffs all artillery batteries - though I'm not sure if it will buff other tier 5s.
I'm just curious how laggy Bloon Exclusion Zone would be and how well it would do.
Prince of Darkness would be INSANE, the tower on its own is really solid but each one will also buff all the others.
I think most of the ninja spam strats you mention are utilizing Shinobi Tactics to buff all of you Shinobi. So, Grand Saboteur would be cool to see.
Total Transformation could be really cool if you can find a way to manage the micro.
Avatar of Wrath would, of course, be good, but I wouldn't mind seeing Superstorm, as the tower is kind of crazy.
Either of the other spactory paths would be great, top path does a ton of damage and doesn't need quite as much time to build up as bottom path, and middle path would be ability heavy but can melt moabs and bads like nothing I've ever seen.
Overclock would be cool, but like, also torture for you. XXL trap would be cool but also probably lose to the BAD.
I absolutely love NeoGod's choice and editing of music in these videos. I can't even tell when the song switches. Perfecto 👌
48:26 that one mf down there in the trees that isn't attacking took his damn sweet time to finally help smh
Lmao underrated comment😊😊
Whatever you did to the bit rate is great. Everything is clean and clear. Great job bud!
found this mid migraine, perfect timing lol. even if you think you were repetitive in the vid, i still loved it very much!!!
For the record, Cripple MOAB recently got buffed to deal area damage, so it would have gotten the furthest of any sniper t5 by a significant margin
I agree with this assessment.
@@Felix-sl2hw damn area damage? if I knew that i would’ve😭😭
also being honest, super glue would have been better then solver, Solver does great damage and detroys cerams but he has fixed damage, while super glue can consistantly damage all moabs and just stop normal bloons on their tracks
Well, yeah, he didn't really pick the best crosspaths for late game so...
Some people are hoping for the 5-5-5 ultimate crosspath towers.
@@togeluga_the_catwait, correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think super glue does damage to BADs, DO THEY?
Nah the glaive lord with all their orbiting projectiles was gonna be so cool 😭
But no bad damage 😵
It has a bleed effect@@shaydenprime275
@@shaydenprime275 the galive lord has amazing bad damage after they made its projectile rochochet.
@@shaydenprime275 the orbiting glaives tho
The lag would be crazy
Hey Neo, I love your variety content. I would love to see some more on the channel. I still enjoy the BTD6 videos, I just enjoy seeing you play other games. But no matter what, I will still watch you.
This is just purely speculation, but MAYBE the Ray of Doom MIGHT have worked, if you didn't have the 'Cross the streams' monkey knowledge (The one that causes plasma pools when ray of doom or plasma accelerator beams cross)
I suspect that maybe, all of the calculations for where all of the plasma pools would be at, might've contributed to the lag you were dealing with.
But, I could be entirely wrong, and maybe resetting your monkey knowledge and re-getting everything but that singular one monkey knowledge (or just turning monkey knowledge off, but that also takes away all of the other power monkey knowledges give you) might not help at all.
1:43:28 does give some credence to my theory. I doubt the acid pools and the plasma pools are too dissimilar, all things considered, and since all of the acid pools cause so much lag... the plasma ones probably do the same.
You apologize for your own actions a bit too much. It’s YOUR video so you do what you want man, I’ll watch it and be happy no matter what.
I don't care about most of those things he apologizes for anyways, but I would've liked to see middle path alchemist and bottom path farm, the latter being especially interesting with its life generation, which could've made it the most unique tower in this video. Tye actual farm segment ended up being pretty lame.
Is bro the star man waiting in the sky?
There was a recent DC on Cubism where I just filled the map with 240 spikes. I also had permabrew too though and a few other 5 tiers allowed in the challenge. That was able to get to 200+ with some smart ability usage.
Respect for taking your time to make this video, great as always
The reason why the DDTS were getting so far with the Bomb waa because the Bomb Blitz can't pop blacks meaning only the ones in MIB range can hit it
@@Quts_ DDTS have black property, Bomb Blitz does explosive type dmg. The DDTS were de-camo'd as you can see some Bombs that were outside of MIB range still attempt to hit it.
btw the tier 5 bottom path glue can hit the same target twice and he also does impact damge wich makes him better when spammed
I was enjoying the video, then i realized i watched 30 minutes of a 2 hour video
The way he makes his videos are very relaxing, i want more of this type of experiment
If you're interested in doing a similar video in the future, I'd like to see top path Sniper, top Bomber, Bottom Heli, Middle Sub, Bottom Dartling (with Target Independently), Middle Wizard, Bottom Ninja, Middle Alch, Top Druid
45:07 I like to look for un-upgraded towers, and there was a t-4 sniper above the top left mib
10:20 has an incomplete boomerang below the lives right next to the MIB, he has a V instead of an X, idk if he's 0-0-1 or 1-0-0 or just pure t0 but he's not an X
23:28 there's one 105 bomb shooter
50:16 bottom left corner it has the green hat
1:19:51 that mf sitting next to the spike pile...
Edit: I just saw another in the bottom left.
1:17:44
one on the left, one on the top, four more on the right
The sheer commitment that this man has to doing these videos is commendable.
I don't even want to imagine how long this took. Kudos.
This has gotta be the most entertaining bloons content on youtube, man
The bitrate compression actually looks so good in this video!
Bro this must’ve taken so long lol thx for taking ur time to make this type of stuff
To avoid having to restart everytime from stratch, I recommend installing "time machine" mod or sth like that - it allows you to come back to any round of your choosing, as long as you have beaten it.
redoing the druid and get all bottom path would make it so much further, and the mid path cookie monster (alchemist) is pretty strong too
Props to him for editing everything, thats insane, atleast I think, imma watch it all.
Honestly, maybe should've gone middle path ninja. Sure bloonjitsu and grandmaster ninja is strong and all, but you're missing out on the power of all them shinobi tactics. They're like the druids of wrath, the more you have, the stronger they are. And considering you have a whole map full of them...
Honestly, 20+ shinobi tactics surrounding a cluster of grandmasters probably would do WAY better than either path on its own. But this isn't the video for mixing different paths.
Though, if you ever do such a video, this would be the second thing to look forward to. (The first being the moab doms on the outside, with glaive lords in the middle of the loops, mentioned at 13:01)
...or having a bunch of perma-brewed Total transformation alchemists shredding the B.A.D., while some B.M.A.s turn anything that comes out of the B.A.D.s into red bloons.
...or maybe the village? Those top path villages were powerful on their own, so how would they fare with constant homeland defense buffs?
Master bomber would've been even better
this is the longest video you ever made and i love your channel :)
Please do more of these long form videos. I love to watch them while playing games.😊
I hope you do a follow up with the tier 5s that you skipped ngl
btw, consider using some sort of Instant monkey mod, where it just gives you loads of every instant monkey in the game, so you dont have to manually upgrade them as much, itll probably save time
I think most of the time sink is due to lag making the later rounds take forever.
Instant monkey might save some tedium but I don't think it will save much time.
Would selling every monkey and replacing from the instant tab actually be faster than upgrading? I don't think so
@@alexion3007he can restart, place down the instas and then skip back to where he left off. The random rounds might be a bit of a problem but it doesn't matter that much, atleast he won't have missed any towers.
this man is a person of comitment, detication, and sheer FUCKING WILL
Monkey Wick
The willpower of Letsgameitout is still unmatched
@@enriquelopez3479fr
And sorry to be that guy but its spelled dedication
The Aces were wonderful. So mesmerizing.
“You were a little red balloon, You are floating through here and they don’t see you and then… Wow“ 50:18
Words of a man who’s lost his mind. 😂
Going bloon solver over super glue hurt to see, so did going 2-0-3 sniper over 0-2-3 or 3-2-0
I like bloon solver more
3+ 02 wold be nice now. little aoe should be enough for ceramics in such a case
@@Link-on5bl it doesn’t stack so it’s pointless in a challenge like this, but 0-0-5 does impact damage and keeps shooting already glued Bloons so it will out perform 5-0-0
@@johannesdatblue4164 yeah, the AOE explosion should carry but I can’t remember how well shrapnel scales
@@theinsane833 I ment if your just playing the game
44:42 that one t3...
2, there is one under the cash number
You should totally do two more of these videos eventually, so you can compare how far each tier 5 for a specific tower type makes it. Just give them upgrades in whatever other upgrade path u think would best help that specific tier 5
Youre sanity AND Dedication is, PEAK✨. Longest video that ive ever seen in youre channel. Nice one neo, Keep it up 👍
Kinda disapoinyed you didnt do bottom teir farm to see how long it would last since they generate lives great video though, great dedication.
the amount of effort and dedication this takes is actually crazy
2:06:38 you can actually fit five spike factory's into both squares, you have carefully construct an X with them, put one at the edge of each corner, then there should be room for one in the center, it would also be better if they were all set to smart targeting, because then you'd have multiple piles doing huge damage instead of many piles doing a little
Can't wait for the paragon-filled map video to come out when your pc is done running it at a frame every couple minutes. ❤
Worth the wait. Lfg
Squidward
Acid mixture of alchemist is so odd with BMA lol. Great video, though, nice work!!
For the future, even though all the particles effects look cool if you want you're computer to have a break turn accessibility to 0 and it removes all projectiles from being visible.
wsp TheNeoGod i hope your vid gets the most popular video in the uiniverse
41:12 i think the best targeting option for military monkeys is the Last target, it shoots 10% faster or something like that
idk if it could past this round though
Only if you are using monkey knowledge.
Doesn't it only apply to snipers, subs and buccs?
Cause only those have normal targeting
@@locrianphantom3547given that theres mana shield, they likely have that.
@@oranges369 Yeah.. didn’t see that.
I like this video as it helps point out some of the power jumps in the towers
A new "How far can it get" video? Awesome! (Please make a playlist)
Just a thought but going for bloon trap on the engineer monkey might work
Ye, but it would have 0 bad dps lol
No because it wouldn’t be able to do enough bad damage
You don’t have to keep doing this to yourself.
Dude I love the "I'm going to do it my way" energy here 😂
this vid is actually pretty relaxing
let's get 10,000 likes guys! I really want to see how the PC will suffer.
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27:37 You missed one top left
So satisfying seeing a full map of tier 5s
I wish you'd do a follow up video with top path spike and other towers that are actually stronger but I really enjoyed this video and I understand it LAGS so thanks for the entertainment
32:05 once again. The rounds are only random for each new game load in. Meaning if you restart the game and don’t back out the rounds will be the exact same every single time. Hope this helps for future videos.
Edit:
For further clarification:
If you only “restarted” each run, the rounds 1-100,000,000,000, will all be the exact same. Meaning round 204 of the next tower from this point would’ve also had the same Bloon sends.
Man, the fact you did all this manually is insane. Might have been worth looking into either getting someone to make a mod for this or making it yourself
I originally thought that this video was a replay of a stream, but when I watched just 15 minutes of it, I realized that the video was really that damn long
I am curious if the 205 glue gunner would go significantly further, because it can hit the same bloon multiple times and has impact damage. Perhaps a follow up video where debatable cross paths get visited? For example the 502 sniper,
All paragons will be so cool!
It’s crazy how much effort you put into all of these videos
I have a suggestion. Instead of alternating between the homeland defense and the call to arms in the can this tower beat this bloon type of videos. Please consider using the cooldown refresh in sandbox. Thank you so much. 🎉🎉🎉
Unupgraded moneys list !!!(ONLY T5)!!!
(tell me if i missed any)
Dart: found one unupgraded in the top left and one top right. plus another one above the top right M.I.B. (3)
Boomer: none (0)
bomb: 1 towards the bottom right (1)
tack: one above the top left mid and (i think) one above the bottom left mib. (2)
ice: one middle of the right side, a little towards the bottom (1)
glue: one at the top right (1)
sniper: one at top left mib (1)
sub: how did he not see that one💀(1)
bucc: it's really hard to see, but counting the green planes, it should be 2 (2)
ace: i saw four with shorter wings (4)
heli: it's obvious he missed none (0)
Mortar: pretty sure, none either (0)
dartling: 11 abilitys, so 11 missing (11)
wizard: none (0)
super: can't see if the top left one is, or isn't (0)
ninja: what a streak. 3 monkeys with 0 (0)
alc: 1 above the top right mib (1)
druid: 4 missing vine abilitys (4)
farm: 0 obviously. (0)
village: another obvious 0 (0)
engi: one top right. one bottom right. even two top left. (4)
beast: didn't see an orca among the megalos, so i think none. (0)
spac: obvious one bottom right. also, he should have used super mines. smh (1)
total: 34
thats gunna take a while
@@MarwanFroukhi yeah, but i have no life so.....
boomer's inaccurate, 10:20 has one right below the lives counter, out in the open, has a V instead of an X (idk what upgrade he's missing)
@@pizkel_1449 i said t5 only.
tack is also inaccurate, t1 has a VERY hidden unupgraded, (found via missing barrels lol)
it's right above the leftmost point of cash counter MIB (i compared the barrels with the barrels of one that was in the middle of the map, and it's missing some)
my timestamp is 26:40
or you just didn't say that that one was a t1 mis-upgrade, since he does upgrade it for t2
I wanted to play some btd6 before I went to bed, but this video was too good😭
High at 11:09pm amd im watching this. Honestly worth it imo
Bro real shit😭😭😭
id love to see how far one can get with custom towers for the full map, or a full map of 5-5-5 towers
hey brother. appreciate the content. noticing a trend where your videos that are 30-60+ minutes are getting hundreds of thousands of views and some of the shorter ones have 5, 10, 30k views. seems like you cracked the algorithm code with the longer ones. keep doing what you love and good luck :)
God, I NEED to see the full map of Paragons, if only just for the Sniper Monkey. Much like the full map of Elite Defenders, multiple Paragon Snipers are undoubtedly going to perform exponentially better than a single one, since each additional tower grants another instance of the attack speed buff to all Snipers on the map. For the Paragon, this is going to become _severely_ more obvious due to having the sheer damage-per-shot of top path as well, plus the bouncing bullets from middle path.
the spirograph on the aces was so good
when filling up the map with circular hitboxes, the best way to place them is hexagonally or just offset each layer so they fit together with less wasted space :D suboptimal info
Cripple moab would have been crazy. Giving eachother extra damage from their kwn shot, with faster firing and in such a big group, they would have for sure gotten to round 200. Plus, it got an AoE attack quite recently. ISAB made a video about that.
SUPER MINES NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
But also well done, this was insane to watch :)
RUBY DA CHERRY @22:36 G59 love that you casually threw him in there XD
hell yeah
Here's a tip: using the setting that shrinks the monkeys could help with seeing if you missed upgrading any of them, as they aren't overlapping each other has badly.
Good video, gonna watch it later
Thank you it was cool !
This video shows he is a man of sheer dedication, commitment and WILL
That sniper that was un upgraded for almost the whole time hurt me
HE FORGOT ANOTHER ONE IN THE ELITE DEFENDER ROUND
waitttt changing the boomerang hand does make a huge difference! its only cause your map is full with them that you cant tell! early maps the need is not there, but later maps you are more limited on spots, and certain angles will 'kill' the boomerang early into the throw. but a hand switch can avoid pillars or get around walls and keep more valuable spots open for harder hitters. or straight lane shooters.
Rounds after 140 are all random, except for 163, 200 and 263. BUT! The rounds are set when you begin the game. This means that restarting the last round after dying still gives the same round, but in a different game, that round will be different. Hope this helps!
I think the video he saw of the legend of the night reaching really high rounds was in a daily challenge that had a cool down reduction of like 500% or something like that which made it so the black hole of one t5 never run out.
For the farm you could have tried the bottom path farm which would give you lives at round end allowing you to survive more rounds.
great video, now do the same but with heroes and upgrade one level at a time when you lose
That comment about the Legend of the Night did remind me...
The game is designed with 4 (8 if it's Crossbow) tier 5's of each tower in mind. Cause Co-Op is a thing in this game.
For the perma spikes the grade can only be accurately achieved by going through the rounds manually since it’s damage relies on previous rounds and how well it was able to make a stash of spikes.